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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Michael Very Show is on the air.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yeah, corn Pop was a bad dude and he ran
a bunch of bad boys.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
The first rule of fight club is you do not
talk about fight club.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
The second rule of fight club is you do not
talk about fight club.

Speaker 5 (00:32):
Not a joke.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
And so he was up on the board, wouldn't listen
and I said, hey, Esther, you off the board.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'll come up and drag you off.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, he came off and he said, I'll meet you
outside my car. This was mostly his We're all public
housing behind it. You know, the chain used to be
a chain that went across the deep end and he
cut off the.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Six foot left of chain. He pulled up.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
He said, you walk out with that chain.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
And you walked in the car and say you, hey,
cut me man, but I'm gonna wrap this chaine around
your head.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
You know that George Soros is a bad guy, but
you're not really sure how he makes his money and
why President Trump wants an investigation into him. Stay tuned.
In the next segment, we will talk to Joseph Vozquez
of the Media Research Center, who has focused on George
Soros and how exactly he uses the image of being

(01:27):
a philanthropist. He just contributes to people that want to
make America and the world a better place, but actually,
says Vozkaez and the Media Research Center, he makes money
off this process. It's a business model. That will be
the point of our conversation coming up. And later you'll

(01:48):
hear a bit of a conversation I had this morning
with doctor Mary Tally Boden. You might have seen her
on social media, might have seen her on Joe Rogan,
Tucker Carlson, a number of other places. She is absolute
blown up. She was under attacked by the Texas Medical
Association because she was treating patients with COVID when COVID

(02:09):
hit in unconventional ways like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin and so
they came after her. They've hassled her, harassed her for
four years. Greg Abbott should be ashamed of him, so
he could call this off. There's some fellow named Sharif.
I don't know Omar Sharif. I don't know what the
guy's name is. H He's the head of the Texas

(02:31):
Medical Board, and she has embarrassed hospital systems, doctors, conventional medicine.
And now in the state of Texas at they they
tried to get her license so she couldn't practice medicine
anymore because she was treating patients with ivermectinmisay successfully while
the hospitals were letting patients die or contributing to their death.

(02:54):
I would argue, so she's treating them with ivermectin. And
now in the state of Texas, as of yesterday, the
House of Representatives in our state legislature passed a bill
making ivermectin over the counter. So we've gone from ivermacden
will kill you to its horse paste. Don't touch it,

(03:16):
it's not fit for human consumption, to oh it's over
the counter. You can just walk up there when you
when you buy your bubblegum, you can you can buy
it right there. Ivermectin that won a Nobel Prize for
its founder, and we're supposed to believe it's for horse paste.
You know, there are other drugs that entered the main

(03:37):
stream as as an unintended consequence positive A happy What
was a happy happy? What did Bob ro say? A
happy accident? These happy accidents that happened anyone that first
took viagra as a trial drug cardiovacvascular drug for folks

(04:01):
that were having trouble with their hearts, and lo and behold,
when you opened up the vessels, the vascular system starts
pumping blood and you'll never guess where it was ending up.
And so you had impotent old men who all of
a sudden were awakened. Well, that was an off label application,

(04:24):
and in fact it created quite a political problem or
legal problem or Pfizer, which they didn't mind because they
made a fortune because now people were going to their
cardiologists that didn't have a cardiology problem. So the cardiology
the cardiologists put them through the paces. No your heart
is fine, No dog, I don't think you can see it.

(04:45):
I really need some of that new heart medicine viagra. Well,
my point is sometimes the drugs side effects can be
instead of negative, very positive. Sometimes a drug can be
used for something where it is more effective than even
the original application for which it was designed. Ivermectin is

(05:06):
one of those. Doctor Boden also talks to us this
will be later in the show, about what you can
do if you took the shot once or twice, because,
as she notes, the research continues to come in showing
an increase in a number of conditions of sudden death,
which is very disturbing. There's a whole site about sudden

(05:27):
death and young people, especially young men sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
twenty years old, very healthy, often engaged in an athletic activity,
healing over and dying. And imagine how devastating this is
to the families. And the only thing they can figure
out is that they've taken the COVID quote unquote vaccine.

(05:48):
It's not a vaccine. Joe Biden said, if you took it,
you couldn't get COVID, you couldn't spread COVID. Both of
those things are true. So it's a twofold lie. Yes
you can. He'll get it with that stupid shot they
gave you, and you can still share it. And number two,
it's important to understand it's just the common cold. Michael,

(06:10):
don't say it's a common cold. My grandmother died of it.
How old was she ninety four? Your grandmother could very
well die of the common cold. They needed you to
believe that COVID was the worst disease ever, because the
follow up to that was then they could hold you
down and jab you with something that could later kill
you anyway. She gives advice on that as well. All right,
who was George or who is George Soros? What's he

(06:32):
up to? That's coming up? Michael Berry? Michael Berry? Who
is George Soros? Why is he so important? Why do
we talk about him so much? As this sort of
nefarious boogeyman out there? And it seems like everything that
goes wrong is tied to him. But he's like, uh

(06:55):
kaiser soosha. You never know, you never see him, nobody
ever knows who he is. Who in the hell is he? Well,
his name's been in the news this week because President
Trump is warning that his radical spending spree has destabilized
communities and corrupted America's political system. Whether it's Cloward Piven

(07:17):
or any number of other theories of schools of thought
or programs, we all know that the left has sought
about to bring down this country to serve other interests,
and a lot of money is changing hands for the
foot soldiers making it happen. And that's where the rubber
hits rode. Joe Vozkez has written in his latest piece

(07:40):
Game on Trump, calls for Rico charges to be filed
against George Soros, and this is big. I hope it happens.
I really really hope it happens. Is it Joseph Vozquez
or jove us there?

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Joe?

Speaker 4 (08:02):
My mother typically calls me Joseph, but I go by
jose Joe, Joey, take your pick, I love it.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Associate editor for Media Research Center, which does very good
work for Media Research Center Business. What is your day
to day job before we get too deep into this.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well, my day to day job is whacking the leftist
media for distorting economic facts and also tracking whatever George
Sous is doing on a day to day basis. And
I can tell you there is definitely no shortage of
news on that front. The George Sauce machine is constantly moving,
so I'm always kept on my toes with this work.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
All right, let's start at the beginning, and this is
a magazine style discussion, not a newspaper. I don't do
bang bang I like to really dig in and get
granuur on this. Talk about who George Soros is and
assume people don't know anything about him. Start us from
the beginning.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Well, well, let's just start, But what separates George Soros
apart from other billionaires because people can look at George
Soros and said, well, he's what, what's the big deal.
He's just a billionaire who happens to donate, you know,
donate big, big sums of money to Democrats, while not
everyone has the the bloated view of himself that Soros has.

(09:18):
As a matter of fact, in nineteen ninety three, he
said something that was you know, that was jaw dropping.
And it's not the first time he said something like this.
He said, quote, it's a sort of disease when you
consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything.
But I feel comfortable about it now since I began
to live it out end quote. And to that effect,
he has used his ungodly fortune about thirty two billion

(09:41):
dollars and more, and you know, to fuel into his
open Society foundations, which is his philanthropic giant, to completely
overhaul world politics to fit his dystopian agenda, which he
refers to his open society that's defined by open borders.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
It's defined by it's defined by.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Uh trans radicalism, it's defined by climate change. Radicalism is
defined by stoking racial strife, anti police movements, you name it.
I mean, everything that distorts civil society or American societies,
we know it to be. Soros Is pretty much the
Soros idea is pretty much the antithesis of all that.
And he's definitely not you know, he's definitely not uh,

(10:23):
you know, just some billionaire who's just operating on the sidelines.
As a matter of fact, his cohorts have recognized the
amount of power that this one individual man has.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
This is not a conspiracy theory.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
As a matter of fact, I think it's It was
Byron Wing, one of his confidants, who was the former
was a former chief strategist at at AT Dean Witter
his He had originally said that soros.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Is is more powerful, you.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Know, holds more influence than anyone who's ever held appointed,
appointed or elected office.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I have to tell you one thing.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
And Morton Abramowitz, who is the former head of the
Carnegie Endowment.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
On uh, he had stated years ago that sorrows that's uh,
that sorrows. Uh.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
You know, he has so much, he has so much
influence that he that he's the only private citizen in
the world who has his own foreign policy and can
implement it.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
So think about it.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
These characterizations of this one man, who apparently has inserted
himself into world politics over the years, is able to
influence it according to how.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
He believes it should be.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
He became infamous for breaking the Bank of England by
betting against UH the British pound and sent and sent
the British economy reeling right.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I mean, this man was literally this man is literally.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
So powerful that when he gives a talk or gives
us who he would give a speech on something or whatever,
he had the ability to move markets just by something
that he said. Because he's typically what made him so
powerful is that he does most of his work in
the background.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
He's not as public as let's say.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
His more radical son Alex Sorols, who now run his
Open Society Foundations source. Operated his influence in the background,
so whenever he said something, it's always made national news.
And every time that he would spend an enormous amount
of money, whether it be on his pet projects in
trying to insert radicals into Congress or rather, or whether

(12:18):
it be fomenting racial strife by pouring millions into radical
leftist groups like Color of Change and others that use
the race issue to stoke defund the police movements. This
man is absolutely dedicated to completely unraveling, you know, American exceptionalism.
He hates American nationalism. He kind of you know, when

(12:41):
people look at Sorols say think, well, what is he?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
What is he? Is he at communist? He is? Is
he a fascist? What is he? Here's the thing about source.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Which is what I educate people about, and said, if
you read his books, he this man does not want
to be characterized under any existing umbrella ideology, whether it
be communism, whether it be fascism. He is so obsessed
with himself and has such a god complex that he
wants to be considered his own thing. Sorosionism, as I
have come to call it, is a completely different brand

(13:10):
of radicalism, and it's pretty much it's pretty much conducive
to a new World Order philosophy. And this is you know,
this is stuff that is based on stuff that he said.
He believes that American power should be subjugate, subjugated to
an international ruling, international governing body. You know, he hates
the fact that American that American supremacy is in fact

(13:31):
a thing. And he's working, he's been working for years
in order to subjugate America's influence on the world stage
in favor of increasing power within some sort of international
centralized government. That's essentially what Soros does. And he's willing
to spend millions of dollars been no billions, billions of
dollars to make sure that that philosophy comes into play.

(13:53):
I mean, whether it be education. He'd founded recently, this
this massive education umbrella group called the Open Society University Network,
which essentially grafts in universities from the United States and
around the world into this one umbrella group in order
to push its philoctophy on things and does the fact.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
That he hold on just a moment, just one moment,
Joseph Bsquez talking about George Soros coming up.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
This is the Michael Berry Show, Locked.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
And Loaded, Loaded.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Joseph Bozquez is the associate editor for the Media Research Center,
which does fantastic work, uh kind of a counter to
Media Matters, if you will. That's the shorthand version. His
latest piece is called Game on Trump calls for rico
charges to be filed against George Soros. We're talking about

(14:54):
the influence of Soros and the the violence and division
that he that he fements in this country, and it's
arguably criminal, and that's what Trump wants determined, and if so,
then he would be then he would be prosecuted. Do
you get the sense, Well, let me tell you my opinion, Joseph.

(15:16):
I get the sense that Sorrows doesn't have core values
and core beliefs that he's so passionate about, like communism, socialism,
or secularism or transgenderism. I get the impression that it's
a power kick for him, and he has a very
very deep hatred abiding hatred for the Anglo American people,

(15:42):
and that this is his way to reak have it
that you know tomorrow he'd be in favor of guns,
if that would help things to that he comes up
with these causes as yet another way to drive wedges
and create craziness and violence.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
So you hit the nail right on the head.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
I mean, Soros, you know, refers to himself as an
aim or capitalist. But meanwhile he'll write in let's say,
the massive publication on his project Syndicate, he'll write a
piece that says that talks about the capitalist threat, condemning capitalism. Meanwhile,
he made his fortune based on capitalism. It doesn't matter,
like he'll use whatever he needs to in order to

(16:20):
get ahead, in order to further his political agenda. It's essentially,
it's essentially everything is a means to an end for him.
So even if it comes to fomenting political strife, like
for example, a lot of these groups that were responsible
for these like these not King.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Protests, you know that, you know that was.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Scattered all across the country to protest Trump, or whether
it be the Tesla fires where people were firebombing Tesla's
and things like that, you know, and apparently some groups
that Elon Musk had named a couple of them or
the primary one is connected to sorols funding. Every time
there's some sort of strife, whether it be some disc

(17:00):
it's attorney who doesn't want to prosecute crime, or whether
it be the testifiers, or whether it be something like
like like violent protests, the first question that people ask is, well,
how much is Source giving to the group that's been
connected to this? And sure enough, in my research, my
six years of research doing this, there is always some
connection there. And so President Trump is you know, pretty

(17:21):
much saying what what's on everyone else's minds? If Source
is involved in so much at the very leads there
should be an investigation to see if there's any criminality involved.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
So you know, so now Trump is talking about reco charges.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Well, guess what if there is some coordination on some
Maxi level to you know, to cause.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Strife or cause disorder. Guess what I mean?

Speaker 4 (17:42):
You know, as the leftist media always likes to remind us,
no one is above the law on not even sorrows.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well we're about to I think we're about to find
that out. With with between Shift and Big Big Tish
and this mortgage fraud that they're engaged in, this is
going to get very very interesting. Indeed, how much money
is Soro's actually pouring into these causes? I mean I

(18:09):
read in your piece seven point six million dollars and
then I want to double back to that that that
this is not just money that he uses to play
a game to try to destroy this country. It's been
argued that he's actually making money because what he has
is these organizams. They're laundering government money back to him
through all that. Can you speak to.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
That, Well, here's the here's the funny thing is that
source doesn't give money to any cause that he doesn't
have indirect or direct control over. So if he's giving
seven point six million dollars to the Indivisible Project, which
helps organize these no Teams protests, or if he's giving
twelve point six million to the groups that were behind

(18:49):
the radical Free DC protests to stifle Trump's efforts to
crack down on violent crime, it's what you know.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
It's because he's involved in it.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
But here's the amazing thing about really Solus works, and
he's done it for years. He'll give money to groups,
and these groups will be connected to radical events or chaos,
political chaos, and then the Open Society foundations will come
up with a statements, oh, we don't fund, we don't
support any of this stuff.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
We just give money based on our commitment to freedom,
human rights.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
And justice or something like that.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
But as my colleague Matt Palumbo over at Bongino Report
had stated so eloquantly, he said, you cannot give money
to an awesiness and then feigned surprise when that awesiness
uses that money to fund fires.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
But that's exactly what Sol's done.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
He gives money to groups and they claims plausible deniability
whenever they get involved in something that's nefarious. That's been
his modus operandi for decades, and it's why OSF has
been able to get away with being connected to radicalism
and not really being prosecuted for it, you know.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
And the other thing is.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
That what we found through Elon Musk and Doge was
that groups like USAID was giving money directly to Sorels
the sources initiatives. So there is this insetuous relationship that
Sorels has managed to create be between the federal government
himself and the groups that he funds, and it's about
time that has been investigated.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I mean, if at the very least.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
It should be investigated to see if there's any criminal activity.
I would venture to say that there probably is, but
you need to look for it.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
There has been a group known as I think it's
Arabella Partners that Bill Gates has been involved with for
large amountment. Now they're pulling away from that. Are they
intertwined in Soros world?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (20:41):
As a matter of fact, a lot of you know,
some of their groups that they manage Arabella Advisors. I mean,
if for people who don't know, it's like it's one
of the biggest, you know, collection of philanthropic advocacy organizations
in the country.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
And it runs these other organizations underneath it.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
It's kind of like an umbrella runs groups like the
New Venture Fund or the sixteen thirty Fund that then fund,
you know, in turn, radical political groups across the United States,
and Souce has poured millions into those into those groups
over the years. I mean, it's kind of like it's
like it's like a it's like a funding mill, you know,
for for leftist causes.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
And Source has been deeply involved in that.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
I was actually.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Surprised when I found out that the Gates Foundation chose
to separate itself, you know, from it, and you know, I,
you know, I have to do a little bit more
digging to find out what the what the.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Core reasons behind that was.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
But these this particular network Source has definitely been involved
in over the years, and it's you know, and it's
about at the very least, it raises questions.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
But you know, you see what the left does.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
They try to make us fearful about the Koch brothers
and all these other things, but if you bring up
George Soros, they immediately tried to say, oh, you're a hater,
you're an anti semi just for questioning Source's involvement with
these things.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
But you know now, you know that President Trump is
in office. Guess what.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Now we can start asking those questions and we can
get to the bottom of source is involved.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
In anything the fairs. The American people deserve to know
about it.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
And that really is I think the crux of all
of this, whether it's Epstein or Sorrows or the origin
of COVID. You know, the idea of transparency, as Lewis
Brandeis famously wrote, sunlight is the best disinfectant, the idea

(22:34):
that you can do most anything in this country as
long as it is disclosed for the public to review
and respond. It's the cover up. It's the sense that
the American people don't deserve to know certain things. That
is distinctly Unamerican, and I find it infuriating. Oh hold
on just a second, Oh one second. Joseph Foscass is

(22:56):
our guests. He's with Media Research Center. We're talking about
George Soros. His latest piece is called Game on Trump
calls for rico charges to be filed against George Soros.
We'll talk about that. I don't care if somebody produce
who stakes you you can't.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Shoot Michael Pass it's been befooked.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Joseph Bosk is Associate editor at Media Research Center, has
written his latest piece, Game on True. Trump calls for
RICO charges that's racketeering to be filed against George Soros.
One of the things you talk about is Soros backing
groups like the No Kings Riot and the Free DC Riot.

(23:41):
How tight is that bond, that connection? How hard is
it to trace the money he's giving to those people? Allegedly?

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Usually when it comes to the group that SAWS find,
there's really just one to two degrees of separation. Like,
for example, SOLS will give money to a go like
the Indivisible Project, which was one of the lead groups
involved in organizing these No Kings protests, and you know,
whatever Indivisible Project does or whatever it's tied to, OSFN
claims plausible deniability. Yeah, we gave them money, but we

(24:13):
didn't know that they were going to do X, Y
and Z. And that's essentially how they approach anything, you know.
So when it comes to the Free DC protests, you know,
I think there was a you know, the groups that
were involved in that. Soroles gave over twelve million dollars too,
But you know, given the fact that these groups, you know,
organized protests to then you know, stifle Trump's efforts to
crack down on crime in DC. Oh Whatteff can then claim, Oh,

(24:36):
we had nothing to do with them. We had no
idea that they were going to be planning those things.
That's essentially what Souls done. There's a degree or two
degrees of separation, and then sols is like, wow, what are.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
You guys looking at us?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Well, we didn't know that they were going to do that.
That's been their excuse for years.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
And the thing is, you know, you know, criminals should
be that lucky if there's only one degree of separation
between them and whatever crime has been has been perpetrated.
I mean, lawyers, you know, prosecuting attorneys would salivate if
all they had to worry about was one or two
degrees of separation. I mean, conspiracy charges units need to

(25:10):
be connected to the conspiracy to then be charged, you know,
at once. You know, So if there is this secret
cabal going on within the Open Society Foundations and then
the groups that it funds, guess what I mean? You
know there should be an investigation into that. I mean,
we've discovered something similar in our previous massive report, I
would encourage all your readers to read it. It was

(25:31):
called Law and Disorder, and what it focuses on is
this massive network that the Soils Empire uses to control
the radical district attorneys across the United States who are
refusing to prosecute crime and instead to further the Soil's agenda.
That we've counted well over one hundred different district attorneys
that we left this radical district attorneys that the SOLS

(25:52):
net were controlled and through some groups any funds that
end up coordinating their tactics and coordinating whether or not
they're enforce certain laws or not enforce certain laws.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
If that doesn't scream some kind of you know.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
It comes down a conspiracy or some kind of whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I don't know what does.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
At the very least, it should be investigated for this
kind of influence.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
But of course the left.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Up till now has done everything they can to shield
SOROLS because guess what, his money like, his money is
valuable to them. So they're going to try to keep
that grave between growing as much as they can.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Joseph Fascus is our guest. He is associate editor at
Media Research Center. I'm going to read a line from
something he posted from a piece he's quoting. It's on
x he's quoting un quote. The Open Society Foundations, founded
by George Soros and chaired by his son Alex Soros,

(26:45):
do not fund or fund, do not support or fund
violent protests. Allegations to the contrary are false, and the
threats against our founder and chair are outrageous. Our mission
is to advance human rights, justice, and democratic principles in
the United States and around the world. It's almost as
if they think they're being cheeky. Oh no, we wouldn't

(27:07):
do that, oh us. It's almost as if they're too
clever by half. I would love to see these guys
brought down. I think it would be It would be
such justice, and it would be so good for the country.
And you know what really bothers me, Joseph. We've all
seen these people out in LA or New York. You

(27:31):
go back to occupy and you go back to all
these protests that Barack Obama put these people up to,
and Sorrow's funding these things, and a lot of them
will end up dead, a lot of them will end
up in prison, a lot of them will end up
with serious problems. In their lives, and they don't realize
you're not powerful. You're a foot soldier. You're a pawn
to powerful people who know they can get you out

(27:53):
in the street when they would never go there themselves.
And that's really kind of sad when you think of it.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Well, of course, but I mean, you know, if you
just read George Orwell's nineteen eighty four, you'll see that's
exactly the kind of society that Source is working, you know,
to create this kind of new world order where people
you know, what did George Orwell say in nineteen eighty four,
The revolution will be complete when the language is perfect.
And Source has been you know, through his purchases of media.
He just recently bought the four hundred million dollars in

(28:23):
debt from the radio giant Odyssey, So now he has
influence over the radio stations that are circulating across the country.
I mean, you know, he has a media empire. He
has massive political influence on.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
All these things. He can further his his agenda.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
So everything that people are getting innundated with is somehow
connected to Sources philosophy on things.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
So that's all they're hearing.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
So what essentially they end up becoming they become groomed
to become the foot soldiers of the New World Order.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
There'll be informant on everybody else.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
You know, they'll you know, this whole, this whole you
know transgenderism thing. You know, Source is very involved in
funding that too. I mean, you know you funny support
for that as well. And you know the situations where
kids who are engaging ego, who are being being fooled
into those kinds of those kinds of disgusting things are
now you know, they're they're telling us their teachers or

(29:14):
the authorities on their parents for trying to block them
from engaging and that stuff. I mean, it's all part
of the Soul's brand. This is what he does. And
you you know, and he, as you.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Said, he profits off of the influence that he gets.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's really it's really, you know, it's like something out
of a horror movie if you think about it. I
never thought before I entered it into the MRC that
I would find evidence showing that's that's this man. This
one man could have as much power as he does.
But guess what, he's played his hand brilliantly and now
the deep state he's like he's pretty much at the
at the top echelon of a deep state, if you

(29:49):
want to, if you want to look at it that way.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
That absolute and and and he operates in this realm
that is sort of seemingly like, you know, the cause
that's ten feet off the coast and you walk across
a plank to get there. Either you can gamble in
this state or you can't. He operates in this too
clever by half manner, moving ducking jobbing. But you know,

(30:15):
I gotta tell you, Joseph, I have found over the
years that when I find someone is benefiting financially in
an illegal or immoral manner, I often think to myself,
it's not the money they're making that bothers me. I
think we'd be better off writing them a check. It's
the harm they cause. You know, So how many bad

(30:39):
things happen because Congress makes a law because they're going
to get a little kickback, and the law costs the
country one hundred billion dollars for their kickback of one
hundred thousand. Well, hell, I'd rather they just get one
hundred thousand dollars because one hundred billion in damage. And
so for sorrows, it's not just that he makes the money.
I don't begrudge anybody money, and I'm not jealous of

(31:01):
him over that, even if it's ill gotten. It's the
harm he does to.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
The country that's the one we're using it.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Joseph, I've got thirty five seconds left, and you know
you take it to break. Joseph Vosquez, Associate editor for
MRC Media Research Center.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Well, I'll just leave you with this, this vital something
that he told The New York Times in twenty nineteen.
This is what he said, and it kind of encapsulates
his entire view. Quote, the awk of history does not
follow its own course.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
It needs to be bent.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
I am really engaged in trying to bend it in
the right direction. He thinks he's God and he has
the ability to bend history, and he's willing to use
it on godly fortune to do it. That should terrify
every freedom loving America.
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