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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Very Show is.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
On the air.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
There is no denying that the Russians interfered in the election.
Whether or not they had willing or unwitting help from
the Trump team, they interfered, and they did so to
help him and hurt me.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
The implications of this are frankly nothing short of historic.
Over one hundred documents that we released on Friday really
detail and provide evidence of how this treason is conspiracy
was directed by President Obama just weeks before he was
due to leave office, after President Trump had already gotten elected.
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This is not a Democrat or Republican issue. This is
an issue that is so serious it should.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Concern every single American.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Creating this piece of manufactured intelligence that claims that Russia
had helped Donald Trump get elected contradicted every other assessment
that had been made previously in the months leading up
to the election that said exactly the opposite, that Russia
neither had neither the intent nor the capability to try
to quote unquote hack the United States election for the
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presidency of the United States.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
And those vapors they have a stone called and it
was President Obama from what Chelsea told me.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
She's got thousands of additional documents. Probably so President Obama.
It was his concept, his.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Idea, but he also got it from crookt Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
Brook Is a three dollars bill.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
People asked me, should we still be talking about the
twenty sixteen election? Should we still be talking about the
Russian collusion hoax? Shouldn't we be focused on what's happening
in the here and now? Well, let me ask you,
this was murdered nine years ago, and you were still
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piecing together the case against her murderer, and you knew
who did it, and he was still living as a freeman.
Would you say, well, you know, let's move on. No. A,
he may do it again. B. We are a people,
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as Americans who have a calvinist sense of justice, a
calvinist sense. This is at the core of our people.
You go back and read a Lexus to Tolkville, and
I encourage you to do this. And he was eighteen
thirty six his travels across America. He wrote about the
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kind of people we are, and that really hasn't changed.
And one of the problems we have with Kami Mamdani
in New York or Gavin Newsom in California, or Kamala
Harris or Joe Biden or Barack Obama. Is that people
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who do not share our values of hard work, thrift, honor, dignity, sacrifice, accountability, responsibility, justice,
rule of law. People who do not share those values.
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And by the way, in much of the world, communities,
nations are broken because they don't share those values. And
you see subcultures in this country. You see young people
today in suburban America that do not share the values
of their parents because their parents do not instill the
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values of their parents. And you see how it goes
all wrong, and you see the results. You see the
results manifest themselves in social ills that could have been prevented.
So back to the point, Yes, it matters. It absolutely matters.
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If our government can be rigged by the most powerful
people in our government and there is not punishment, then
it will happen again. America can be lost. Rome was lost.
The greatest nations on earth can fail, and they are
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naturally inclined to by human nature. The tough thing to
do is to expose and fix the ills of your society.
And that's what we're going to talk about today. There
is nobody other than Donald Trump who would so seek
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to punish those who did what they did to him
and to you in the process. And look, I don't
agree with everything the President does, but he has my
full support on this issue. People have asked me to
explain the Russian interference in the twenty six sixteen election.
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It didn't happen, by the way. They've asked me to
explain that. Hey, could you I know that I keep
seeing all this, but could you actually could you actually
explain what the heck happened. It is a complex topic,
to be sure, but we're going to dig into it.
And who better to start with an explanation than a
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former attorney general of California, the largest state, a former
senator of the United States who also went on to
be the vice president. I hope this opening explanation will
clear things up for you.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
And let's back up and realize what happened. A historic adversary, Russia,
trying to figure out how can I take away some
of the strength of that place called the United States
of America. Well, one of the strengths that they've got,
and it's intangible, almost you can't really touch it, but
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it's strong. When they walk in the room. It's their
strength is that they are a democracy imperfect that we
may be right, flawed that we may be. It's part
of our strength. How can we nit at that?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Well?
Speaker 8 (06:41):
One of the greatest pillars of a democracy, especially ours, free.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And open elections.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
We are very proud of the fact we've not had
any revolutions in recent history. It is through a peaceful
transition of power through elections. Our election system imperfect and flawed,
though it may be. Decide to go at that well,
Let's get the American people going at each other to
create division and and and lack of confidence in this process.
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And they test out a bunch of subjects, and interestingly enough,
the subject that gained the most amount of heat was race,
and they had people going at each other. This is
all in the you know, you read the reports and
you will see that this is what happened.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So but the fact is Rush interfere with his finger
on the pulse. The King of Ding continues on the
Michael Berry Show. Want to be very clear, I have
criticized Trump when others haven't. When listeners have grown angry
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that I wasn't on the Trump train, or I was
causing problems. And I only mention that to tell you
that there are people who wake up every morning and
go to bed every night pronouncing that Donald Trump is
Jesus Christ. He can do no wrong, He's the greatest.
I don't do that. So understand, when I defend Trump,
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I am just as equally capable of criticizing Trump. That
being said, for Trump to continue to prosecute this case
in the court of public opinion, and to use every
asset in our government, every ounce of our system of
investigation and justice, as part of the accountability, that is
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altogether fitting and proper. To quote Abraham Lincoln, it is
what he should do. It would be easier to move on,
It really would. It would be easier to move on.
Donald Trump puts himself in greater peril. Every day that
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he does this. He angers more people, He draws their ire,
He gives them a greater need to destroy him literally
or should I say figuratively and literally, He gives them
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the desire and the willingness to bring him great harm.
It's why there have been so many assassination attempts on
his life, and not just when he was shot in
the head. There was the guy waiting on the golf
course with his gun, through the gun barrel, through the fence.
There were the Iranis, there was the Pakistanis. There have
been multiple folks arrested, multiple folks arrested. And I will
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tell you Kathy Griffin appearing with the head of Donald
Trump dripping in blood, that she had just severed those
sorts of statesments put a bullet in him. Those sorts
of statements are designed by people who don't themselves want
to sacrifice their own life to kill Trump, but are
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hoping there's some crazy out there because they know famous
people know there are plenty of crazies out there, plenty
of squeaky frones, plenty of David Berkowitz's, plenty of the
types of people. John David Chapman, is that his name?
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Who was the guy who was the guy that shot Reagan,
that wanted he thought Jody that he could get her attention.
You get these crazy people who they hear a famous
person say something needs to be done, and I can
be the I can be the martyr. Make no mistake,
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we have martyrs in this country too. For Donald Trump
to continue to do this is truly. While he might
have a desire for vengeance. It is a selfless act
because it brings more harm upon him if he were
to simply say, hear me out here, if he were
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to simply say, you know what, I believe in my
heart of heart, some bad things were done. I think
the people who did them know what they did. But
I'm going to bury the hatchet and move on because
our nation needs it. If he were to do that,
all of those guilty people and all of those people
who help those guilty people would rejoice, and they would
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say nice things about him. You know what, Trump is
finally being presidential. He's all grown up because they will
have taken their shot at him and never had to
pay the consequences. It is actually not an act of indulgence.
It is an act of great leadership to ensure that
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the government of which you are the chief executive, the
commander in chief, the head of the executive ranch, exercises
every responsibility necessary to investigate and prosecute those involved. And
to quote Barack Obama, nobody is above the law. That's
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going to be the focus of the show today. I
believe this is the most important thing in the country
right now. CNN read a statement issued by the Office
of Barack Obama by Patrick Rodenbush, addressing the allegations that
Obama started the Russia collusion hoax.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Here's what they said, respect for the Office of the Presidency,
Our office does not normally dignify the constant nonsense and
misinformation flowing out of this White House, with a response
that these claims are outrageous enough to merit one These
bizarre allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt at distraction.
Nothing in the document issued last week undercuts the widely
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accepted conclusion that Russia works to influence the twenty sixteen
presidential election, but did not successfully manipulate any votes. These
findings were affirmed in a twenty twenty report by the
bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, led by then chairman Marco Rubio.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
This office does not normally dignify such things, right, Well,
then why did you for the same reason that James
Comey made that goofy video yesterday where he looked and
sounded scared and guilty. You don't normally dignify criticisms, but
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this time you did. The answer to that question is
the answer we are seeking. It is the answer that
you already know in your heart of hearts. Toolsey Gabbard
said more documents will be released today that refute that statement.
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I have not reviewed what was revealed today. It has
long been my policy. I know it drives some people crazy.
We do not comment on things in real time. I
like to take time to review. I like to review
the responses. I like to consider them in context. I
want to make sure that what I say I can
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stand by a week from now. But this is what
Toolsey Gabbard said.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
We will be releasing further documents tomorrow that will refute
that statement, and I would go back and point to
and we will be pulling a whole host of statements
that were made by the Obama administration, by Hillary Clinton,
by senior Democrat officials, by their friends in the media,
that stayed over and over again. After this January twenty seventeen,
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manufactured intelligence document was created that repeat the narrative and
I'm looking at my notes here. New York Times says
Russian hackers acted to aid Trump in the election cias.
Obama's CIA director John Brennan says there is strong consensus
among US to support the CIA claim Russian hackers aided
Donald Trump's election, Hillary Clinton said I would be president
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if not for the Russian hackers supporting Donald Trump. So
there is a vast body of evidence and intelligence that
debunks and refutes this statement you've just read in others
coming from some of the Democrat leaders in Congress today, ev.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
One to Walbany, and all great cities in between these.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
The Michael Berry Show is nationwide. Both of you who
were Ozzie fans and wonder what I had to say
about his passing, particularly as it relates to the Alamo,
a story that entered rock and roll lore, and I
am an Alamo. I am obsessed with the Alamo and
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what it stands for. My son's name is Crockett, for
Davy Crockett. My business, my company is Alamo Marketing, So
it's something of great interest to me. As you might imagine,
that is all the morning show that we did today.
I am mindful that we have people across the country
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who listen to all five hours of our show, three
in the morning, two in the evening. And while we
do sometimes repeat some topics, some sound, some entire segments,
if it's important and we think it's worthy, we try
not to do that anymore than is necessary. So if
you're wondering why one of the most influential musicians of
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American history love him or hating, whatever your position is,
I'm not that in the issue. If you're wondering why
I have not spoken to the issues, because I feel
like I did that plenty this morning. So just as
I'm mindful in the morning to save things for the evening,
in this case, that's why i won't be speaking to
that anymore than I have. And I'm really really interested.
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I think we've got to be like a dog on
a bone, that this Russia collusion hoax, that what they
did to Trump and you be exposed, not just what
they did, but who did it. This must never be
allowed to be done again. Whatever you think of Watergate,
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Richard Nixon was removed from office. He resigned, but he
had to. That was the greatest blow to him. That
was worse than throwing him in prison. And those who
did it believed it had to be done. I think
it's a far more complicated question as to what happened,
how it happened, who's set it up, and all that.
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But there have been times in American history that dramatic
actions have been taken and that even the most powerful
have been removed and punished, and it is very important
that you do. You watch professional sports teams of the
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Bill Belichick era, let's say, or Nick Saban even more true,
and you recognize that sometimes your star has to be
benched so the rest of the team understands the rules
still apply. In September of twenty eighteen, let's get the
context and the timing, because it's important. It's two months
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before the crucial midterm elections. It's two years into President
Trump's presidency. The former president Barack Obama, and the trend
is former presidents don't involve themselves in politics after they
leave the presidency. You're bigger than that. You take on causes, literacy,
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building homes, world peace, You go out and say nice
things about people, You talk about work ethic and the
American dream. Oh no, no, Barack Obama protecting what he
had done in twenty sixteen. Remember, Obama can't ride out
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into the sunset because Obama knows he committed crimes. Obama
knows he did very bad things, and he needs the
political protection of a House of Representatives during a Trump
presidency that is dominated by Democrats, so they can continue
the impeachments, so they can continue to harass him, so
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they can continue with the Mueller investmentstigations, so they can
keep him on his heels, so that he never can
come up for air and recognize what Obama was involved
in doing to him before he was elected and during
the interregnum period of the Trump election in November of
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sixteen and the Trump inauguration January twentieth of twenty seventeen.
So here is Barack Obama taking off the robe in
which we enshrine former presidents. He's a former president. He's
bigger than politics. Now we name things for you. You're
a glorious, honored person. There's a bipartisan respect for Oh no, no, no,
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not Obama. Obama is revisiting the scene of the crime.
He is a criminal that has to keep trying to
figure out what the cops have on him to see
if they're going to be able to catch him. So
here he is septemb Member of twenty eighteen, just before
the midterms, accusing the Republican Party of cozying up to
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the Russians.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
They're undermining our alliances, closing up to Russia. What happened
to the Republican party. It's central organizing principle in foreign
policy was the fight against communism. And now they're closing
up to the former head of the KGB, actively blocking
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legislation that would defend our elections from Russian attack. What
happened seem utterly unwilling to find the backbone to safeguard
the institutions that make our democracy work. I'm here to
tell you that you should still be concerned with our
current course and should still want to see a restoration
of honesty and decency and lawfulness in our government. It
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should not be democratic or republican. It should not be
a partisan issue to say that we do not pressure
the Attorney General or the the I to use the
criminal justice system as a cudgel to punish our political opponents.
And the closer that we get to election day, the
more those invested in the politics of fear and division
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will work. We'll do anything to hang on to their
recent games. We want to keep us divided and keep
us angry, and keep us cynical, because that helps them
maintain the status quo and keep their power and keep
their privilege.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
In the end, the threat to.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Our democracy doesn't just come from Donald Trump, or the
current bachelor of Republicans in Congress, or the Koch brothers
and their lobbyists, or too much compromise from Democrats or
Russian hacking. The biggest threat to our democracy is indifference.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
What's interesting about that is he starts by saying, what
happened to the grand old part the Republicans used to
be against communism? As if this is a this is manipulation,
as if he respected Republicans for rooting out the communists
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in the Democrat Party in our government. He's hearkening to
a time where the Republicans stood firm against communism. Why
did they change? Now they've changed. This is a man
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who grew up under the tutelage of avowed communists. This
is a man built by a machine of communists. Every
input possible to create to saw off the edges, to
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rub around the rough edges of his birth, his name,
his background, his tutelage, his positions, his behaviors, his personal life,
every bit of it was shellacked with the veneer to
sell to the American people so you wouldn't know what
a communist he was. I was the hunt and now
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I'm the hunter. Michael Berry, I saw somebody down. It's
important to remember what was said, when it was said,
the context within which it was said, and how things
get buried because we live in such a noisy environment.
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I could rattle off fifty news stories that occurred this
year that on the day they hit, were the biggest
news in your life, so big that when you got
home you said to your spouse, Hey, did you see
the story about fill in the blank? And yet we
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forget about them, which means there's no accountability. There's no
personal responsibility. Nobody is held to account for what they say.
But the reason they say those things is because it
affects American policy and action. Susan Rice was as influential
a member of the Obama administration as there was. She
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was responsible for Americans, including our ambassador, who were killed
in Benghazi. Twenty seventeen, Donald Trump has been elected. Unlike
Republicans rolling out the red carpet for Barack Obama, Oh
the King is here, the rush, the emaculation of Obama
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had begun. They worked to keep Trump out of the
White House, and once he was elected, they worked to
put him in prison. And Susan Rice, who had been
so involved in all of it up until that point.
Here she is on the PBS News Hour in twenty seventeen,
denying that Obama ever spied on the Trump campaign. Remember
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Trump was saying back then, hey, they did some awful
things to me, folks, They did awful things. And there
was Diane Sawyer. Oh this is sixty minutes. You can't
say that here. Well, here is the PBS News Hour.
Oh yes, holding itself out as a beacon of journalism.
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This is March twenty second, twenty seventeen. The president has
barely been president for two months when she said this.
Speaker 10 (26:56):
In the last few hours, we've been following a disclosure
by the each Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Newness, that,
in essence, during the final days of the Obama administration,
during the transition after President Trump had been elected, that
he and the people around him may have been caught
up in surveillance of foreign individuals and that their identities
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may have been disclosed. Do you know anything about this.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I know nothing about this.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Units on
that count today. I mean, let's back up and recall
where we have been. The President of the United States
accused his predecessor President Obama of wire tapping Trump Tower
during the campaign. Nothing of the sort occurred, and we've
heard that confirmed by the Director of the FBI, who
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also pointed out that no president, no White House can
order the surveillance of another American citizen. That can only
come from the Justice Department with the approval of AFFISA Court.
So today, I really don't know to what Chairman Nunez
was referring, but he said that whatever he was referring
to was illegal, lawful surveillance and that it was potentially
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incidental collection on American citizens. And I think it's important
for people to understand what incidental means. That means that
the target was either a foreign entity or somebody under
criminal investigation, and that the Americans who were talking to
those targets may have been picked up.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
What's right. Let's get back to the audio, because we've
got a story to tell here. That president of the
that share of the President's Advisory Board, Devin Nunez, was
on Fox News with Maria Bartiromo and he named Obama
as the Russian collusion mastermind. I want to be very clear,
he didn't hint or own, he didn't say powerful people.
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He did a very brave and dangerous thing. He named
Barack Obama not as being in the room, not as
being around the people who did this, as the mastermind.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
There's nobody better than Cash and Dan, or i should
say director Patel, a director Deputy distor of Bongino. Those
two guys know more about the Russia hoaks than anyone
else that's out there. And I'm going to be fascinated
to see what this new information is that they found
buried somewhere within that Hoover building, because I do.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Think that transparency is key.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And you know now that we have you know Ed Martin,
who was supposed to be the US Attorney in Washington,
d C. Now the President has appointed him to go
after this. So I think both Cash and Dan were
pretty clear they're going to follow the facts, They're going
to provide transparency, and then ultimately it's up to the
Department of Justice to hold these dirty cops response for
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what they've drugged this country through for the last almost decade.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Now you've called Jim colemy like a figurehead, but talked
about others who are really driving this lie.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Let me ask you this, who do you believe was.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
The mastermind behind the Russia collusion.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Lie.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Well, there's a lot of masterminds, but I think in general,
this was lit on fire by Obama team. Obama and
his team after Trump won in twenty sixteen, so they
could have stopped it. They should have stopped it. Instead,
they let the fuse. They put out a BS intelligence report.
If you recall, right before the president came in, they
framed General Flynn, they framed the entire Trump administration, and
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then they appointed Mohler. So once Trump fired, Comy Moeller
gets appointed, and we lived through that Molar witch hunt
for years. And I think, me personally, I think if
there if you're going to find criminality, it's going to
be with Mohler and his witch hunters that were there
for so many years. I think that's where you're going
to find the co op corruption. This wasn't just the
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I said this many times, Maria, and I think it
was lost on people. It wasn't just about all the
corruption that they did to create and manufacture. It's the
Russia hoax. The Moller investigation itself was a hoax and
was illegal. When Moller walked into that door. How many
times did I say it he said, where are the Russians?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Oh, sir, there are none. Why didn't Muller leave? Why
didn all those people work for years?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Why did they hide the information from Congress for so
many years. I think you're going to find many of
those top level lawyers and fbigens, as Cash said, did
not conduct themselves in a professional manner. And I think
if interviewed again, you could maybe get to the bottom
of it.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's amazing to me that a scheme, a conspiracy, conspiracies
involved multiple parties. And if you've watched enough bank heist movies,
you know that every new person you add, because well,
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he's the one who can pick the lock, and he's
the one who knows explosives, and he's a good getaway driver,
and he's the one who understands the the the the
blueprints of the building, and he's the one who can
carry the load, and he can. The more people who
are involved, the greater the likelihood that the thing unravel
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Don't underestimate Hunter Biden and some of the things he
said the other day. We played it yesterday. Don't underestimate
how the Democrat establishment is unraveling right now. They're going
to help us out
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Very Show is.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
On the air.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
There is no denying that the Russians interfered in the election.
Whether or not they had willing or unwitting help from
the Trump team, they interfered, and they did so to
help him and hurt me.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
The implications of this are frankly nothing short of historic.
Over one hundred documents that we released on Friday really
detail and provide evidence of how this treason is conspiracy
was directed by President Obama just weeks before he was
due to leave office, after President Trump had already gotten elected.
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This is not a Democrat or Republican issue. This is
an issue that is so serious it should.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Concern every single American.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Creating this piece of manufactured intelligence that claims that Russia
had helped Donald Trump get elected contradicted every other assessment
that had been made previously in the months leading up
to the election that said exactly the opposite, that Russia
neither had neither the intent nor the capability to try
to quote unquote hack the United States election for the
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presidency of the United States.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
And those vapors they have a stone called and it
was President Obama from what Chelsea told me.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
She's got thousands of additional documents. Probably so President Obama.
It was his concept, his.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Idea, but he also got it from crookt Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
Brook Is a three dollars bill.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
People asked me, should we still be talking about the
twenty sixteen election? Should we still be talking about the
Russian collusion hoax? Shouldn't we be focused on what's happening
in the here and now? Well, let me ask you,
this was murdered nine years ago, and you were still
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piecing together the case against her murderer, and you knew
who did it, and he was still living as a freeman.
Would you say, well, you know, let's move on. No. A,
he may do it again. B. We are a people,
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as Americans who have a calvinist sense of justice, a
calvinist sense. This is at the core of our people.
You go back and read a Lexus to Tolkville, and
I encourage you to do this. And he was eighteen
thirty six his travels across America. He wrote about the
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kind of people we are, and that really hasn't changed.
And one of the problems we have with Kami Mamdani
in New York or Gavin Newsom in California, or Kamala
Harris or Joe Biden or Barack Obama. Is that people
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who do not share our values of hard work, thrift, honor, dignity, sacrifice, accountability, responsibility, justice,
rule of law. People who do not share those values.
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And by the way, in much of the world, communities,
nations are broken because they don't share those values. And
you see subcultures in this country. You see young people
today in suburban America that do not share the values
of their parents because their parents do not instill the
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values of their parents. And you see how it goes
all wrong, and you see the results. You see the
results manifest themselves in social ills that could have been prevented.
So back to the point, Yes, it matters. It absolutely matters.
(04:18):
If our government can be rigged by the most powerful
people in our government and there is not punishment, then
it will happen again. America can be lost. Rome was lost.
The greatest nations on earth can fail, and they are
(04:41):
naturally inclined to by human nature. The tough thing to
do is to expose and fix the ills of your society.
And that's what we're going to talk about today. There
is nobody other than Donald Trump who would so seek
(05:04):
to punish those who did what they did to him
and to you in the process. And look, I don't
agree with everything the President does, but he has my
full support on this issue. People have asked me to
explain the Russian interference in the twenty six sixteen election.
(05:27):
It didn't happen, by the way. They've asked me to
explain that. Hey, could you I know that I keep
seeing all this, but could you actually could you actually
explain what the heck happened. It is a complex topic,
to be sure, but we're going to dig into it.
And who better to start with an explanation than a
(05:47):
former attorney general of California, the largest state, a former
senator of the United States who also went on to
be the vice president. I hope this opening explanation will
clear things up for you.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
And let's back up and realize what happened. A historic adversary, Russia,
trying to figure out how can I take away some
of the strength of that place called the United States
of America. Well, one of the strengths that they've got,
and it's intangible, almost you can't really touch it, but
(06:26):
it's strong. When they walk in the room. It's their
strength is that they are a democracy imperfect that we
may be right, flawed that we may be. It's part
of our strength. How can we nit at that?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Well?
Speaker 8 (06:41):
One of the greatest pillars of a democracy, especially ours, free.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And open elections.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
We are very proud of the fact we've not had
any revolutions in recent history. It is through a peaceful
transition of power through elections. Our election system imperfect and flawed,
though it may be. Decide to go at that well,
Let's get the American people going at each other to
create division and and and lack of confidence in this process.
(07:09):
And they test out a bunch of subjects, and interestingly enough,
the subject that gained the most amount of heat was race,
and they had people going at each other. This is
all in the you know, you read the reports and
you will see that this is what happened.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So but the fact is Rush interfere with his finger
on the pulse. The King of Ding continues on the
Michael Berry Show. Want to be very clear, I have
criticized Trump when others haven't. When listeners have grown angry
(07:54):
that I wasn't on the Trump train, or I was
causing problems. And I only mention that to tell you
that there are people who wake up every morning and
go to bed every night pronouncing that Donald Trump is
Jesus Christ. He can do no wrong, He's the greatest.
I don't do that. So understand, when I defend Trump,
(08:18):
I am just as equally capable of criticizing Trump. That
being said, for Trump to continue to prosecute this case
in the court of public opinion, and to use every
asset in our government, every ounce of our system of
investigation and justice, as part of the accountability, that is
(08:44):
altogether fitting and proper. To quote Abraham Lincoln, it is
what he should do. It would be easier to move on,
It really would. It would be easier to move on.
Donald Trump puts himself in greater peril. Every day that
(09:07):
he does this. He angers more people, He draws their ire,
He gives them a greater need to destroy him literally
or should I say figuratively and literally, He gives them
(09:28):
the desire and the willingness to bring him great harm.
It's why there have been so many assassination attempts on
his life, and not just when he was shot in
the head. There was the guy waiting on the golf
course with his gun, through the gun barrel, through the fence.
There were the Iranis, there was the Pakistanis. There have
been multiple folks arrested, multiple folks arrested. And I will
(09:50):
tell you Kathy Griffin appearing with the head of Donald
Trump dripping in blood, that she had just severed those
sorts of statesments put a bullet in him. Those sorts
of statements are designed by people who don't themselves want
to sacrifice their own life to kill Trump, but are
(10:12):
hoping there's some crazy out there because they know famous
people know there are plenty of crazies out there, plenty
of squeaky frones, plenty of David Berkowitz's, plenty of the
types of people. John David Chapman, is that his name?
(10:37):
Who was the guy who was the guy that shot Reagan,
that wanted he thought Jody that he could get her attention.
You get these crazy people who they hear a famous
person say something needs to be done, and I can
be the I can be the martyr. Make no mistake,
(10:57):
we have martyrs in this country too. For Donald Trump
to continue to do this is truly. While he might
have a desire for vengeance. It is a selfless act
because it brings more harm upon him if he were
to simply say, hear me out here, if he were
(11:19):
to simply say, you know what, I believe in my
heart of heart, some bad things were done. I think
the people who did them know what they did. But
I'm going to bury the hatchet and move on because
our nation needs it. If he were to do that,
all of those guilty people and all of those people
who help those guilty people would rejoice, and they would
(11:40):
say nice things about him. You know what, Trump is
finally being presidential. He's all grown up because they will
have taken their shot at him and never had to
pay the consequences. It is actually not an act of indulgence.
It is an act of great leadership to ensure that
(12:01):
the government of which you are the chief executive, the
commander in chief, the head of the executive ranch, exercises
every responsibility necessary to investigate and prosecute those involved. And
to quote Barack Obama, nobody is above the law. That's
(12:25):
going to be the focus of the show today. I
believe this is the most important thing in the country
right now. CNN read a statement issued by the Office
of Barack Obama by Patrick Rodenbush, addressing the allegations that
Obama started the Russia collusion hoax.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Here's what they said, respect for the Office of the Presidency,
Our office does not normally dignify the constant nonsense and
misinformation flowing out of this White House, with a response
that these claims are outrageous enough to merit one These
bizarre allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt at distraction.
Nothing in the document issued last week undercuts the widely
(13:06):
accepted conclusion that Russia works to influence the twenty sixteen
presidential election, but did not successfully manipulate any votes. These
findings were affirmed in a twenty twenty report by the
bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, led by then chairman Marco Rubio.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
This office does not normally dignify such things, right, Well,
then why did you for the same reason that James
Comey made that goofy video yesterday where he looked and
sounded scared and guilty. You don't normally dignify criticisms, but
(13:49):
this time you did. The answer to that question is
the answer we are seeking. It is the answer that
you already know in your heart of hearts. Toolsey Gabbard
said more documents will be released today that refute that statement.
(14:13):
I have not reviewed what was revealed today. It has
long been my policy. I know it drives some people crazy.
We do not comment on things in real time. I
like to take time to review. I like to review
the responses. I like to consider them in context. I
want to make sure that what I say I can
(14:34):
stand by a week from now. But this is what
Toolsey Gabbard said.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
We will be releasing further documents tomorrow that will refute
that statement, and I would go back and point to
and we will be pulling a whole host of statements
that were made by the Obama administration, by Hillary Clinton,
by senior Democrat officials, by their friends in the media,
that stayed over and over again. After this January twenty seventeen,
(15:01):
manufactured intelligence document was created that repeat the narrative and
I'm looking at my notes here. New York Times says
Russian hackers acted to aid Trump in the election cias.
Obama's CIA director John Brennan says there is strong consensus
among US to support the CIA claim Russian hackers aided
Donald Trump's election, Hillary Clinton said I would be president
(15:25):
if not for the Russian hackers supporting Donald Trump. So
there is a vast body of evidence and intelligence that
debunks and refutes this statement you've just read in others
coming from some of the Democrat leaders in Congress today, ev.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
One to Walbany, and all great cities in between these.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
The Michael Berry Show is nationwide. Both of you who
were Ozzie fans and wonder what I had to say
about his passing, particularly as it relates to the Alamo,
a story that entered rock and roll lore, and I
am an Alamo. I am obsessed with the Alamo and
(16:09):
what it stands for. My son's name is Crockett, for
Davy Crockett. My business, my company is Alamo Marketing, So
it's something of great interest to me. As you might imagine,
that is all the morning show that we did today.
I am mindful that we have people across the country
(16:32):
who listen to all five hours of our show, three
in the morning, two in the evening. And while we
do sometimes repeat some topics, some sound, some entire segments,
if it's important and we think it's worthy, we try
not to do that anymore than is necessary. So if
you're wondering why one of the most influential musicians of
(16:56):
American history love him or hating, whatever your position is,
I'm not that in the issue. If you're wondering why
I have not spoken to the issues, because I feel
like I did that plenty this morning. So just as
I'm mindful in the morning to save things for the evening,
in this case, that's why i won't be speaking to
that anymore than I have. And I'm really really interested.
(17:18):
I think we've got to be like a dog on
a bone, that this Russia collusion hoax, that what they
did to Trump and you be exposed, not just what
they did, but who did it. This must never be
allowed to be done again. Whatever you think of Watergate,
(17:40):
Richard Nixon was removed from office. He resigned, but he
had to. That was the greatest blow to him. That
was worse than throwing him in prison. And those who
did it believed it had to be done. I think
it's a far more complicated question as to what happened,
how it happened, who's set it up, and all that.
(18:01):
But there have been times in American history that dramatic
actions have been taken and that even the most powerful
have been removed and punished, and it is very important
that you do. You watch professional sports teams of the
(18:24):
Bill Belichick era, let's say, or Nick Saban even more true,
and you recognize that sometimes your star has to be
benched so the rest of the team understands the rules
still apply. In September of twenty eighteen, let's get the
context and the timing, because it's important. It's two months
(18:48):
before the crucial midterm elections. It's two years into President
Trump's presidency. The former president Barack Obama, and the trend
is former presidents don't involve themselves in politics after they
leave the presidency. You're bigger than that. You take on causes, literacy,
(19:13):
building homes, world peace, You go out and say nice
things about people, You talk about work ethic and the
American dream. Oh no, no, Barack Obama protecting what he
had done in twenty sixteen. Remember, Obama can't ride out
(19:34):
into the sunset because Obama knows he committed crimes. Obama
knows he did very bad things, and he needs the
political protection of a House of Representatives during a Trump
presidency that is dominated by Democrats, so they can continue
the impeachments, so they can continue to harass him, so
(19:58):
they can continue with the Mueller investmentstigations, so they can
keep him on his heels, so that he never can
come up for air and recognize what Obama was involved
in doing to him before he was elected and during
the interregnum period of the Trump election in November of
(20:20):
sixteen and the Trump inauguration January twentieth of twenty seventeen.
So here is Barack Obama taking off the robe in
which we enshrine former presidents. He's a former president. He's
bigger than politics. Now we name things for you. You're
a glorious, honored person. There's a bipartisan respect for Oh no, no, no,
(20:44):
not Obama. Obama is revisiting the scene of the crime.
He is a criminal that has to keep trying to
figure out what the cops have on him to see
if they're going to be able to catch him. So
here he is septemb Member of twenty eighteen, just before
the midterms, accusing the Republican Party of cozying up to
(21:07):
the Russians.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
They're undermining our alliances, closing up to Russia. What happened
to the Republican party. It's central organizing principle in foreign
policy was the fight against communism. And now they're closing
up to the former head of the KGB, actively blocking
(21:30):
legislation that would defend our elections from Russian attack. What
happened seem utterly unwilling to find the backbone to safeguard
the institutions that make our democracy work. I'm here to
tell you that you should still be concerned with our
current course and should still want to see a restoration
of honesty and decency and lawfulness in our government. It
(21:51):
should not be democratic or republican. It should not be
a partisan issue to say that we do not pressure
the Attorney General or the the I to use the
criminal justice system as a cudgel to punish our political opponents.
And the closer that we get to election day, the
more those invested in the politics of fear and division
(22:13):
will work. We'll do anything to hang on to their
recent games. We want to keep us divided and keep
us angry, and keep us cynical, because that helps them
maintain the status quo and keep their power and keep
their privilege.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
In the end, the threat to.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Our democracy doesn't just come from Donald Trump, or the
current bachelor of Republicans in Congress, or the Koch brothers
and their lobbyists, or too much compromise from Democrats or
Russian hacking. The biggest threat to our democracy is indifference.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
What's interesting about that is he starts by saying, what
happened to the grand old part the Republicans used to
be against communism? As if this is a this is manipulation,
as if he respected Republicans for rooting out the communists
(23:21):
in the Democrat Party in our government. He's hearkening to
a time where the Republicans stood firm against communism. Why
did they change? Now they've changed. This is a man
(23:43):
who grew up under the tutelage of avowed communists. This
is a man built by a machine of communists. Every
input possible to create to saw off the edges, to
(24:06):
rub around the rough edges of his birth, his name,
his background, his tutelage, his positions, his behaviors, his personal life,
every bit of it was shellacked with the veneer to
sell to the American people so you wouldn't know what
a communist he was. I was the hunt and now
(24:29):
I'm the hunter. Michael Berry, I saw somebody down. It's
important to remember what was said, when it was said,
the context within which it was said, and how things
get buried because we live in such a noisy environment.
(24:50):
I could rattle off fifty news stories that occurred this
year that on the day they hit, were the biggest
news in your life, so big that when you got
home you said to your spouse, Hey, did you see
the story about fill in the blank? And yet we
(25:12):
forget about them, which means there's no accountability. There's no
personal responsibility. Nobody is held to account for what they say.
But the reason they say those things is because it
affects American policy and action. Susan Rice was as influential
a member of the Obama administration as there was. She
(25:39):
was responsible for Americans, including our ambassador, who were killed
in Benghazi. Twenty seventeen, Donald Trump has been elected. Unlike
Republicans rolling out the red carpet for Barack Obama, Oh
the King is here, the rush, the emaculation of Obama
(26:03):
had begun. They worked to keep Trump out of the
White House, and once he was elected, they worked to
put him in prison. And Susan Rice, who had been
so involved in all of it up until that point.
Here she is on the PBS News Hour in twenty seventeen,
denying that Obama ever spied on the Trump campaign. Remember
(26:28):
Trump was saying back then, hey, they did some awful
things to me, folks, They did awful things. And there
was Diane Sawyer. Oh this is sixty minutes. You can't
say that here. Well, here is the PBS News Hour.
Oh yes, holding itself out as a beacon of journalism.
(26:48):
This is March twenty second, twenty seventeen. The president has
barely been president for two months when she said this.
Speaker 10 (26:56):
In the last few hours, we've been following a disclosure
by the each Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Newness, that,
in essence, during the final days of the Obama administration,
during the transition after President Trump had been elected, that
he and the people around him may have been caught
up in surveillance of foreign individuals and that their identities
(27:22):
may have been disclosed. Do you know anything about this.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I know nothing about this.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Units on
that count today. I mean, let's back up and recall
where we have been. The President of the United States
accused his predecessor President Obama of wire tapping Trump Tower
during the campaign. Nothing of the sort occurred, and we've
heard that confirmed by the Director of the FBI, who
(27:48):
also pointed out that no president, no White House can
order the surveillance of another American citizen. That can only
come from the Justice Department with the approval of AFFISA Court.
So today, I really don't know to what Chairman Nunez
was referring, but he said that whatever he was referring
to was illegal, lawful surveillance and that it was potentially
(28:16):
incidental collection on American citizens. And I think it's important
for people to understand what incidental means. That means that
the target was either a foreign entity or somebody under
criminal investigation, and that the Americans who were talking to
those targets may have been picked up.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
What's right. Let's get back to the audio, because we've
got a story to tell here. That president of the
that share of the President's Advisory Board, Devin Nunez, was
on Fox News with Maria Bartiromo and he named Obama
as the Russian collusion mastermind. I want to be very clear,
he didn't hint or own, he didn't say powerful people.
(29:04):
He did a very brave and dangerous thing. He named
Barack Obama not as being in the room, not as
being around the people who did this, as the mastermind.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
There's nobody better than Cash and Dan, or i should
say director Patel, a director Deputy distor of Bongino. Those
two guys know more about the Russia hoaks than anyone
else that's out there. And I'm going to be fascinated
to see what this new information is that they found
buried somewhere within that Hoover building, because I do.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Think that transparency is key.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And you know now that we have you know Ed Martin,
who was supposed to be the US Attorney in Washington,
d C. Now the President has appointed him to go
after this. So I think both Cash and Dan were
pretty clear they're going to follow the facts, They're going
to provide transparency, and then ultimately it's up to the
Department of Justice to hold these dirty cops response for
(30:00):
what they've drugged this country through for the last almost decade.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Now you've called Jim colemy like a figurehead, but talked
about others who are really driving this lie.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Let me ask you this, who do you believe was.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
The mastermind behind the Russia collusion.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Lie.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Well, there's a lot of masterminds, but I think in general,
this was lit on fire by Obama team. Obama and
his team after Trump won in twenty sixteen, so they
could have stopped it. They should have stopped it. Instead,
they let the fuse. They put out a BS intelligence report.
If you recall, right before the president came in, they
framed General Flynn, they framed the entire Trump administration, and
(30:39):
then they appointed Mohler. So once Trump fired, Comy Moeller
gets appointed, and we lived through that Molar witch hunt
for years. And I think, me personally, I think if
there if you're going to find criminality, it's going to
be with Mohler and his witch hunters that were there
for so many years. I think that's where you're going
to find the co op corruption. This wasn't just the
(31:01):
I said this many times, Maria, and I think it
was lost on people. It wasn't just about all the
corruption that they did to create and manufacture. It's the
Russia hoax. The Moller investigation itself was a hoax and
was illegal. When Moller walked into that door. How many
times did I say it he said, where are the Russians?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Oh, sir, there are none. Why didn't Muller leave? Why
didn all those people work for years?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Why did they hide the information from Congress for so
many years. I think you're going to find many of
those top level lawyers and fbigens, as Cash said, did
not conduct themselves in a professional manner. And I think
if interviewed again, you could maybe get to the bottom
of it.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's amazing to me that a scheme, a conspiracy, conspiracies
involved multiple parties. And if you've watched enough bank heist movies,
you know that every new person you add, because well,
(32:04):
he's the one who can pick the lock, and he's
the one who knows explosives, and he's a good getaway driver,
and he's the one who understands the the the the
blueprints of the building, and he's the one who can
carry the load, and he can. The more people who
are involved, the greater the likelihood that the thing unravel
(32:27):
Don't underestimate Hunter Biden and some of the things he
said the other day. We played it yesterday. Don't underestimate
how the Democrat establishment is unraveling right now. They're going
to help us out
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