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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show is on the air. It's Charlie from
BlackBerry's Mother. I can feel a good when coming on.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's the Michael Berry Shows.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
In the twenty sixth chapter of the Book of Matthew,
Jesus is in the garden of get Simone and he
is being arrested by a servant of the High Priest
who has been sent because he continues to preach the
word of God and his disciple Peter, in order to

(00:52):
protect Jesus pulls out his sword and I think he
cuts the guy's ear off.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Recall correctly, and.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
The verses twenty six fifty two, which I was remembered
because twenty six double is fifty two in the Book
of Matthew, where Jesus in basically is rebuking Peter. No, no, no,
we are building the kingdom of Heaven. We are not
building a kingdom on earth. I don't need armed conflict

(01:23):
to save me. I have to suffer. I have to
die for your sins. He knows this. That's not the quote,
that's not the part I'm talking about. But he says,
for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.
You will often hear that said live by the sword,
die by the sword. There are a number of different

(01:45):
versions of it. But what he was saying, as usual,
was something much larger than a sword or even an armament.
But it was rather the means by which you live
your life will be the means by which your life
will be measured. And if you use evil, then evil

(02:06):
will take you down. And so it's fascinating to me
how often rush Limbaugh was correct when he said that
whatever the Democrats are accusing you of is what they
are doing themselves. On February sixteenth of last year, Big Tish,

(02:28):
the big fat Attorney General of New York, tweeted, when
powerful people cheat to get better loans, it comes at
the expensive, hardworking people. Everyday, Americans cannot lie to a
bank to get a mortgage, and if they did, our
government would throw the book at them. There simply cannot

(02:49):
be different rules for different people. One of the chances
that as she was saying that she was her a
perpetrator of mortgage fraud, you know what she thought this
statement would go into the history books. I will be

(03:12):
the strong black woman who took on a former president
of the United States and one I will get my
own day during Black History Month. After all of this,
my father's slash husband, because remember she claimed her father
was her husband because she needed his income on the
end credit score on the application my father's slash husband.
You notice how often these people are married to or

(03:34):
using family members. Have you got ilhan Omre and her brother.
So she had to craft a statement that was worthy
of the history books because she was going down in history,
I'll have you know, and she said.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
It's simple but fundamental pillar of our democracy that the
rule of law ploys to all of us equally fairly
and justly.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
You'd see Big Tish was going after the big fish.
But as it turns out, she is a criminal. She
has committed mortgage fraud. That is so open and closed case.
There would be no way, once this case had been
exposed that anyone would be able with a straight face

(04:25):
to defend not bringing the charges that have been brought
against her. And it has now happened. The federal grand
jury has indicted Big Tish. There will be justice in
the land. Big Tish, who tried to bring a fake

(04:45):
case against Donald Trump for mortgage fraud, has now herself
been indicted for same.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Enjoy this moment, cibrating that, celebrating.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
That, that's simple.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
What a fundamental pillar of our democracy that the rules
law ploys to all of us.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
Merely a fine coming already here a celebrate the last
throughout the years.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
So bring your good times and.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
You love that too.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
January twentieth, twenty twenty five is Liberation Day.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Michael Very show a murder.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
The news broke this week that Dolly Parton was not
doing well. It turns out that news broke from her sister,
and uh, her sister made it seem like she.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Was about to die.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Prayers for Dolly, and Dolly apparently did not appreciate that
one bit, so she had to film a video to say, no, no, no,
I'm doing fine.

Speaker 9 (06:16):
I want to say something one of today's October the eighth,
And obviously I'm here doing some commercials for the grand
Ola Ibbry, which is why I'm grissed, kind of like
old country Western girl. But before I got started, I
wanted to say, I know lately everybody thinks that I am.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
Sicker than I am. Do I look sick to you?

Speaker 9 (06:38):
I'm working hard here anyway, I wanted to put everybody's
mind at ease. Those of you that seemed to be
real concerned, which I appreciate, and I appreciate your prayers.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Because I'm a person of.

Speaker 9 (06:50):
Faith, I can always use the prayers for anything and everything.
But I want you to know that I'm okay. I've
got some problems. As I mentioned, when my husband Carl
was very sick. That was for a long time, and
then when he passed, I didn't take care of myself,
so I let a lot of things go that I
should have been taken care of. So anyway, when I

(07:12):
got around to it, the doctor said, we need to
take care of this, we need to take care of that.
Nothing major, but I did have to cancel some things
so I could be closer to home, closer to Vanderbilt,
you know where I'm kind of having a few treatments
here and there. But I wanted you to know that
I'm not dying.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well, she went all saccer and sweet there, but I
guarantee she wasn't so nice to her sister. She didn't
need that. Our sister's not her publicism. She didn't like
that one bit. This is the voicemail she left for
her sister.

Speaker 10 (07:51):
Your college been forwarded to an automatic voice message system
at the town. Please record your message. When you have
finished recording, you may hang up, press one for more options. Hi, bitch, sister,
Yeah you know this is your sister on her deathbed.
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 9 (08:08):
If I ever hear you say another word about my
damn kidney stones or uti infection or venereal diseases from
Kenny Rogers, I will end you.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
See you at Thanksgiving?

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Bitch.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh yeah, I did not well well.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Back to Big Tish, the Attorney General of New York
who has been indicted. It was a former criminal turned
forensic accountant who discovered that Big Tish lied on her
mortgage applications. There's not one application, there are multiple applications
for multiple dwellings. Lying on mortgage applications seems to be

(08:43):
her modus operandi MO as it were. Sam An Tar
was on Newsmax when he disclosed what he found, and
this is what he said.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Nineteen eighty three, she takes out a thirty thousand dollars
loan with her dad.

Speaker 7 (08:57):
She files it as a husband and wife. She's married
to a father.

Speaker 8 (09:00):
Why first of all, that was discovered by Joe Gil
but not me. I don't want to take credit for
anybody's work, all right. That was nineteen eighty three. What
he found was that she bought the house as daughter
and mother, father and daughter, and then she when they
did the mortgage, who.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
His husband and wife?

Speaker 8 (09:19):
Also, you get different underwriting his husband and wife than
as you buy it as you know, partners or different
two family members.

Speaker 10 (09:27):
We have.

Speaker 8 (09:27):
Now this is different from the Brooklyn home. This is
a different property. I think it was in Queens. In Queens, yea,
it's a long time. This is forty one years ago,
forty two years ago.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
What's amazing is my gut reaction to some guy who
is an admitted, convicted criminal saying I did some digging,
I did some research in the Attorney General of New York,
who's prosecuting Donald Trump, is herself a criminal, and here

(09:58):
is the proof.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
And I would go, yeah, sure, Sam, thanks a lot,
we'll get right.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
But it was true. It was absolutely true. She also
lied and said that her townhouse was a four unit dwelling.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Let's talk about Brooklyn, New York. This is her actual
main residence. She walked out of this house this morning.
In townhouse she holds it's a multi family home. You
discovered James has been claiming that her townhouse is a
four unit dwelling when it actually has five units.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
Why would she do this to obtain lower mortgage rates?

Speaker 8 (10:31):
Again, motivation if one to four units has different underwriting
guidelines and also insurance too, by the way, insurance freud,
whereas if it's five or more units, it's considered a
commercial property and also subject to different insurance guidelines. She
repeatedly lied because there's a certificate of occupancy that states

(10:51):
that it's five units, and in New York that rules.
And it's unbelievable that that complaints were file with the
Department of Buildings and they wrote it off as a
minor problem, minor era, where every other landlord in New
York if you pull that stunt legal conversion having a
building that's different from the certific occuncy, they will find you.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
They will make you all to the building.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
She's flat out lying on these documents. She didn't deny
anything about it.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
That is absolutely true. So imagine if with when you
bought your home. Imagine if you're single and you could
claim that your dad was your husband, so you would
have two income family. That's the bank's requirement to get

(11:43):
this percentage rate on your loan. And imagine if that
would save you several thousand dollars a month, say thirty
thousand dollars a year, three hundred thousand over ten years.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
It's real money. It's also fraud.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
You see, the basis of the banking system is that
when you sign that document that says what I attest
to hear is true under penalty of law. That's how
we sort of self police and run a system where
risk is monetized properly right that the business is operating

(12:24):
with a sense of fairness.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
That's why we have these laws.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
And for her, the Attorney General, to break these laws
across multiple states, well, she's a dirty, dirty dog, as
are the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
There is no respect for the law.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
And whatever they claim you're doing is what they are
themselves actually doing.

Speaker 11 (12:47):
Michael Ferry, and that's why more people are watching the
cartoon networks.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Thungebobbery runs right now.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
The second more with big dishes mortgage fraud for which
she has been indicted today by grand jury. This is
Sam Antar, the former criminal who's turned a forensic accountant
who discovered all of this, explained to Rob Schmidt on
Newsmax that Big Tish lied and said, so we know

(13:15):
that she lied on one application saying that her father
was her husband, because then that would mean his income
could count as her income on the house and would
improve the credit score because he had a higher credit score.
She lied on another property, saying that it was a
four unit dwelling, when in fact that is not the

(13:36):
correct number, and the rates of insurance and the loan
documents are affected by how many units of property is,
and that changes everything when it's a single family, which
is what most folks live in, or if it's a duplex,
or if it's a triplex or four plex or five plex,

(13:59):
and that changes all the numbers. She knew what she
was doing when she lied. In fact, she had a
city inspector change how he wrote it up as how
many units there were after he originally got it right,
because again she knew she was committing fraud, and now
she induced a government employee who probably felt pressure to

(14:21):
do so by the top law enforcement official in the state.
She lied on her Virginia property. Remember she's the she
doesn't work in DC, she lives in New York. She
claimed her Virginia property would be her primary residence. How
could it be You're the Attorney General of the state
of New York.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Starting with this Virginia property that she claimed as her
primary residence while she was I mean, this is Norfolk, Virginia.
It's probably five to six hour drive claiming it's her
primary residence.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
While she's the age of New York.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
From your report, you see James signed a specific power
of attorney declaring her intent to make six to oho
fourth Sterling Street in Norfolk, Virginia her prince residents. I
legally binding statement that may have automatically vacated her position
as New York Attorney General under Public Officer's Law thirty,
a declaration that came just forty five days before she
launched her case or civil fraud case against Donald Trump.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
Tell us more about what happened in Virginia here.

Speaker 8 (15:17):
She purchased a property with a relative news is in
two thousand and twenty three, a few weeks she closed.
She closed on it right before the Trump trial, and
in the file documents with the County Clerk's office there
was a power of attorney that she gave her cousin
or niece to close the mortgage and on the power

(15:41):
of attorney, she represented, I intend to use this property
as my primary residence. Now there's two problems with that.
The first problem is she liaed on a power of attorney.
Would anybody really believe that she was going to move
to Virginia in the middle of the Trump trial. Second
part is this section six the mortgage that states that

(16:02):
the borrower, meaning her and her niece, have to occupy
the property as their primary residence within sixty days, not
one or the other both.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
Wow, she never she at least occupied it, right, That's fine?
What was what was the motivation to do this?

Speaker 8 (16:19):
While I lower interest rate or interest rates, I'd call
her a petty thief.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
A petty thief.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
This is I mean, this is when you look at
the allegation she made against Trump?

Speaker 7 (16:30):
Is this act worse?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Better?

Speaker 8 (16:31):
Saying well, no, listen Trump, Trump is not a real felon.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
I'm a real felon.

Speaker 8 (16:36):
Okay, So, so Trump didn't do anything wrong?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah you don't think you don't see anything wrong in
the case you made against Trump?

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Do you think?

Speaker 7 (16:44):
I mean, obviously the jury here thought that he did
something wrong.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well, listen, it.

Speaker 8 (16:50):
Seems like you should have listened to the appellate arguments,
because the appellate judges seem to be they're gonna it
seems like they're going to write an opinion that's going
to be a KA tire case.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, okay, yeah, it gues I mean it, obviously it was.
We were all astounded by what they charged him for.
That that that that penalty was ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
You know, you can't coexist with these people.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
You can't. You can't build a nation with these people.
They hate us.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
And they have there's there's there's nothing that keeps them honest.
There's no truthfulness about them. There's no Well, I don't
like my opponent, but the law says she is the
top law enforcement official in the state of New York.
It took a federal grand jury to indict her because
in that state they won't. So people are fleeing New York.

(17:50):
That that's the reason when Donnie's winning is the very
people who would vote against him have all left already.
You know when to come back to this, but first
I'm little to the show on this Ramon's giving me grief.
Courtesy of executive producer Chattaconi Knakanishi.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Your we can review.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I don't like putting anything in between two pieces of
bread that is not a regular meat, like a sandwich.
My wife eats cucumber sandwiches with him and cheese, and
I'm not for that, and she says, well, you say that,
but I put butter on. I don't want a tomade
a sandwich. I don't want marshmallow, and no.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I don't do that.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Another Texas Republican is challenging incumbent Senator John Corny and
Wesley Hunt, announcing his campaign for Senate will.

Speaker 12 (18:37):
Be the biggest race in the state next year.

Speaker 7 (18:40):
John Cornon already on the attack going after Hunt.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
They think Texans are stupid, and if I have anything
to do with it, I'm going to make sure every
Texan understands that John Cornan worked very hard and very
publicly to keep Donald Trump from running for president.

Speaker 8 (18:56):
A man excuse of robbing a nine year old at
gunpoint plus Houston apartment complex HBD.

Speaker 13 (19:02):
Says this was all over some bags of groceries.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
You'll say, twenty year old Joelle alfred Rees approached and
stole the bags of groceries at gunpoint.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
You can't fix that. That is a broken human being.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
There is nothing that guy will ever offer this society,
that level of crime, that type of person has to
be taken out of general population and thrown into a game.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Former New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez is facing misdemeanor
charges after an alleged drunken fight with a truck driver.

Speaker 13 (19:33):
Or Documents say the man who was working with one
of the hotels was defending himself after Santez threw him
to the ground.

Speaker 11 (19:40):
He's at a bar, it's midnight, and he's from what
the reports are saying, he's doing wind sprints in the alley.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Okay, what our own.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Darryl coons that the man was out of title wrote
to the group, if I'm ever Mark Sanchez drunk, I'm
not going to be doing wind sprints and beating up
an old man.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
I'm going to be crushing a double meat cheeseburg.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
I love covers outside the original genre.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
Stuck on you.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
To see the down beating the soul that just came
Time My Way.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
And the whelm in the south to the end you Time.

Speaker 14 (20:39):
My Way.

Speaker 9 (20:42):
Day.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
We're going to be changing the name of the Gulf
of Mexico to the Gulf of Michael Barrys, which has
a beautifully it's not law enforcement official and said in
New York has been indicted by a grand jury today.
This is very troubling. So how does CNN report on
this exactly how you'd expect Casey Hunt say, it's no

(21:13):
big deal because everybody does it.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Everybody does it. No, everyone doesn't do it. That's just it.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
The rest of us are living like shlubs out here.
We're the only ones following the law. We're the only
ones paying our taxes. We're the only one being honest
on a mortgage application. We're working for less. They're taking
more from us. They're trying to kill our industries. They're
trying to keep us masked and locked in. We're living

(21:44):
like serfs so that they can live like kings.

Speaker 13 (21:48):
Just listen to this, James, and again we're still getting
the details. But if it's related to this mortgage issue,
I mean, this is something that everyone in America, or
many people at least, if you're lucky enough to be
able to buy a house in America.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
You're deal with this.

Speaker 13 (22:01):
Right the federal government doesn't go after all of these people.
I'm for doing this.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Jake Temper is part of a three member criminal defense team.
Apparently for big tish because they say that, you know,
you're gonna have trouble proving intent. It's true for crimes
like this, you have to prove intent. You have to
prove awareness of what you're doing is wrong, or that
a reasonable person would be aware, and that you intended

(22:32):
to break the law. Well, just the facts already in
evidence prove that she changes documents. Ah, I think you're
gonna have trouble proving that she had the intent to
commit a crime.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
You mean when she.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Wrote down that her dad was her husband, You think
we're gonna have trouble proving that she was intending to
defraud anyone. You think when she claimed that she lived
moved primarily in Virginia, and we're going to have trouble
proving that. You think when she had the inspector changed

(23:07):
the number of units in the complex she bought that
she wasn't sure because she got more favorable raids. And
you don't even know what else is going to come out.
You don't know what kind of text messages, what kind
of things she ordered people to do. You know, imperious
women like this have a tendency to yell at people.

(23:28):
We saw that with Katie Porter, who's running for governor
in California, where she screamed at one of her staffers
to get out of the get out of the shot.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
She was in frame in the shot.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
You just wait till we find out with big tish
some of the things, because there are going to be
people who she has dressed down in the Sheila Jackson,
the Chila Jackson, Lee, Hillary Clinton sort of way.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Women like this tend to be very angry and very.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Volatile, and it's going to be fun for the peopleeople
who have been have been abused by her to step
forward now that there's blood in the water. But here's
Jake Tapper and his three man team leading her criminal defense.

Speaker 15 (24:10):
They have to prove that it's done knowingly and so
for so if.

Speaker 11 (24:13):
It's a mistake, that's actually relevant criminally. It has to
be if it is a mistake and the person says,
look it's obviously a mistake. Here's evidence it's a mistake.
Then you can't prove intent, and that's important.

Speaker 15 (24:24):
They've acknowledged Letitia Jameson's there was an error on a
power of attorney form. They would try to argue that
that was no intent of wrongdoing. If she was presenting throughout,
and the bank itself did not feel it was defrauded
because they had the correct information to cite one false document.

Speaker 16 (24:39):
Well, Jake, the key question, assuming this is in fact
a mortgage fraud case, is whether Letitia James intentionally and
specifically made a false representation. So, as Kara said, now
they're going to have to prove their case to a
jury eventually beyond a reasonable doubt. And if this is
a mistake or something that was done inadvertently, that's not
going to be enough to support a criminal charge against
Letitia James.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Well, they sure are determined that Letitia not be prosecuted
for the crimes she committed, aren't they. It's almost as
if they don't think the law should apply to democrats.
I wonder what the same Jake Tapper and Laura Coates

(25:22):
had to say about Trump's mortgage fraud case.

Speaker 11 (25:27):
Trum did acknowledge that there could have been a mistake
on his financial statement when it came to the value
of his Trump Tower apartment, but he said that's why
his statements included disclaimer clauses. Quote, there's a disclaimer clause
where you don't have to get sued by the Attorney
General of New York, Is that in any way a
legitimate defense.

Speaker 12 (25:43):
No, and the judge already found it wasn't they said.
Judge said, listen, you just can't offer miscalculating or wrong
and misleading and fraud information. Then say, wait, just kidding,
do your own due diligence here. You have to be
able to rely on what's actually being said.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
Resolve that issue.

Speaker 10 (26:01):
Now.

Speaker 12 (26:01):
What he's trying to do, though, is suggest And you
can't have both worlds, Jake. You can't, on the one hand,
say he's in control of everything. The other hands say,
look everyone else told me this and I handed it
over and delegated.

Speaker 7 (26:11):
Both can't be true on a fraud trial.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
MSNBC's Nicole Wallace interrupted former Assistant US Attorney Andrew Weissman
to announce that Leticia James had been indicted for mortgage fraud.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
And uh, well, I'll let you enjoy this.

Speaker 14 (26:28):
To be and I'm sorry to interrupt you, Leian, New
York Attorney General Letitia James has been indicted. Andrew Weissman,
your reaction, I think that.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
When I sort of address the people who might look
at this and say this is sort of tick for
tat that. You see that in the Democratic administration, you
see them going after Republicans, and this is Republicans going
after Democrats. This is where even if two wrongs don't

(27:06):
make it right, even if that were true, but this
is where facts matter. In the Letitia James case that
she brought in New York, there was a trial, facts
were induced.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
We all could look at those facts.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
And Donald Trump had had a chance, an opportunity to
do process and to.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Hear all of that.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
Here the process by which this has been undertaken, like
the process that was undertaken with a victor James Comy
tells you that career people and even Trump appointed people
did not think that.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
There was evidence there.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
They were not.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Facts that justified this.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
And I think a perfect, a perfect symbol of the
fact that this is different, that what we're seeing is different,
is not normal. It is not everyone does it is
to take a look at Abby Lowell. Abbi Lowell is
the defense lawyer for Letitia James. He was also the

(28:13):
defense lawyer for Hunter Biden in the Biden administration. The
Department of Justice actually charged and convicted the sitting president's son,
and Abby Lowell represented him and defended him and lost
that trial, and he is now defending James. And to me,

(28:39):
when people say it's tit for tat, it's like no.
In the prior administrations and by the way, Republican and Democratic.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Administrations everyone on their side, which I agree, he has
to have a slight list.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Administry like John Water or something. Why is it that
they all have it's very tech pertat.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
But these very manly men are doing very manly man things.
And while I find it very sexy, I wish they
wouldn't know it. It's not very nice. These are very
trying times. It's just really challenged because it really does
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