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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, luck and load. The Michael
Varie Show is on the air. What is the real
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cost of a legal immigration A congressional budget report pegged
at one hundred and fifty one billion dollars. But what
is the cost of your wife being murdered or your
daughter or your son? Can you can you put a
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dollar figure on that on your sense of loss? You
don't get them back. We only get one life. The
big issue here is that violence has been brought into
a marriora by awful people and it's been denied. A
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theme on the show today will be people in positions
of public authority that should be trustworthy lying to us.
There are some new developments in the George Floyd case.
We'll talk to Liz Colin in the next segment about
that lies that were told to you that have now
been revealed, and new tests that that are going to
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be done according to a judge on George Floyd's body.
We know and have known that George Floyd was not
dead when he arrived at the hospital. So how was
he suffocated? It was a drug overdose, but we'll get
to that in a moment. How about the fact that
we were told by many people, politicians, mainstream media outlets, PolitiFact,
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that trend de Aragua, the violent Venezuelan gang. Oh they're not.
They weren't operating in Aurora, Colorado. Headline. City officials and
residents say there is no Venezuelan gang takeover in Aurora, Colorado. Oh,
you people, there's not a UFO. The clock shot doesn't
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kill anybody. Hunter Biden's laptop doesn't have anything on there
that's selling American secrets. You people, y'all just believe all
your conspiracy theories, and yet they keep coming true. Bill
Malusion deserves the highest awards of journalism. He started as
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a Fox reporter, a local Fox reporter, and then he
was picked up by Fox National. He has stayed on
this illegal immigration story, and this really is the way
to do it. You gotta have guys focus on a
beat like the old crime reporter would do, because then
you develop contacts, relationships, you get knowledge. When guys are
bouncing from story to story, they never really develop a
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body of knowledge that allows them to advance a story
beyond just reporting the basic news. Bill Malusion has been
on this illegal immigration story. That's his beat, and he
is really I mean, I don't know anybody that's doing
better work on the ground than he is. He was
on Laura Ingram show, and here he is talking about
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Trende Arragua, this violent Venezuelan gang, and the fact that
before Joe Biden, they weren't a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
When the story was first reported by Fox and other
outlets said this was exaggerated, This was portrayed in a
way that was inflammatory regarding trend to Ragua, and this
wasn't as big a problem as somewhere making it out
to be. Are people paying attention now, Pill.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
They better be, Laura and you're spot on, because there
were Democrats and members of the media like who are
essentially saying, don't believe you're lying eyes. This isn't happening,
it's not an issue. It's all being blown out of proportion.
But here we go again, another violent incident in the
exact same apartment complex, and I'm hearing from federal law
enforcement sources ICE DEA, HSI all involved in this operation.
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Over a dozen suspected Trenda Aragua gang members arrested in
this incident, and we have to look at the bigger
picture here. Trenda Arragua was never an issue in the
United States before President Biden took office. I think most
people out there probably never even heard of Trende Aragua
before Biden was president. And now we have to take
a step back because this international prison gang has literally
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infiltrated the United States largely due to mass catch and
release policies at the border, and they're setting up shop
in different cities all across the country where week after
week we're getting these horrible headlines about violent crimes they're committing.
And at some point we got to call a spade
of spade here, right, this White House has just blatantly
gas lit the American public over the last few years.
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How many times did we see them get up to
that podium every week and claim the border is closed,
the border is secure. They even had the nerve to
say that Nash releases weren't happening, no matter how many
times we got it on video. And look, unfortunately, the
chickens have come home to roosts at this point, large
amounts of foreign violent criminals have gotten into the United
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States cotton released at the border because there's little to
no vetting going on, and now they're popping up in
cities and American women are paying the price, whether it's
Lake and Riley, Joscelyn Nungary, Rachel Morin. We keep seeing
these horrible headlines and unfortunately, Laura, given what we've seen
the last four years, there's probably going to be a
significant amount more of it coming, and that's probably why people.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Just voted for mass deportations. Meanwhile, you're going to be
seeing a lot of stories like this. MSNBC's Nicole Wallace
tells a story of Jimei Kachua and the fear that
he might be deported.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Listen to this, Tom and Trump and his allies have
said what they plan to do. They will begin quote
the largest deportation operation in American history, by focusing first
on deporting criminals, but once that is done, they will
go after every undocumented immigrant in the country. That's their words,
that includes people like him. Kichua Jime was brought to
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the United States illegally by his mom and dad when
he was an infant, less than one year old. He's
now thirty three years old. He lives with his wife.
He has four young children. There's some heart wrenching new
reporting in the New York Times about Kachua. Kachua describes
his own personal story, one family story, A family in crisis,
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now trying to make sure that this man, Jime, who
has spent more than three decades as a law abiding
member of society in his community of Rome, Georgia, doesn't
get deported when Trump comes into office next month. Quote
Jaime had never broken a law of any kind. He
worked fifty hours a week at the dealership, drove below
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the speed limit, paid his taxes on time, and smoothed
the creases out of books before returning them to the library.
But no amount of adherence to the rules made up
for the one thing he'd broken, the one rule he'd
broken before he was old enough to walk or talk
when his family drove him across the border because his
mother had found work at a chicken processing plant outside Rome, Georgia.
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More than thirty years later, his presence remains illegal. He
was not eligible for Social Security or food stamps, or
unemployment benefits or any kind of health insurance he could
afford couch. His father in law, Sky Atkins, who voted
for Donald Trump partly because of his hardline immigration stance,
couldn't understand how or that his family would be effected
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to quote all those criminals that Trump's been talking about,
the rapist, the gang members, that's not you. S guy
said he'd heard Trump say that he would deport the
bad guys first and possibly show leniency to immigrants who
have been brought to the country's children.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Quote.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
You deserve to be here, Skuy said to me, you're
basically American. Quote, but I'm not, Jamie Heim said.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
The Michael Berry Show Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I lived through COVID, I lived through the twenty twenty
election fraud, and I lived through the George Floyd fraud.
And I'm not ever going to let them go because
when you can fool that many people, and when people
are scared to death to discuss what we should have
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learned from things, then this is no longer America. When
all that went down, sometime afterwards, we interviewed a woman
named Liz Colin. She had done a documentary called The
Fall of Minneapolis, and it was so well researched and
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the story was so incredibly well told, and it was
things that almost nobody was talking about, and it was
intentionally stifled by social media. You couldn't talk about it.
Everyone was scared. No one It says if let's just
make it go away. But there's a man serving in
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prison and he's going to be there probably till he dies.
And I don't think he committed murder, and he basically
said he did. And there's so much to the story
that was never told. So Liz Colin is our guest.
She was on with our friend Jack Soviet, and this
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is what we're going to talk to her. But this
is the part that caught our attention.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Listen carefully, very first legal win for Derek Chauvin.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
And we've been reporting all.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Of it over here at Alpha News, But this is
a federal judge who has finally come back approving this
motion that has been in the works four months to
examine heart tissue in George Floyd and also some fluids
from George Floyd's.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Body as well.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
And basically this is related to what's called a paraganglioma.
This was discussed in the fall of Minneapolis. Some doctors
came forward during Derek Chauvin's case to say, why wasn't
this tumor tested in George Floyd. In many cases it
can lead to sudden cardiac death.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They brought this information forward.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
His attorney at the time did not act upon this
information according to court documents, and also the judge, Judge
Peter Cahill, ignored it as well. So in this motion,
the judge has now said that this testing can take place.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
What really.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Does this tumor have anything to do with his death?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
A lot of people are also picking.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Up on the fact that George Floyd was not pronounced
dead until about nine thirty that night, that's about an
hour after this incident took place, something that we brought
out in the documentary as well. So it's interesting that
that I think people are willing to have these conversations
now to look at this evidence, which is really in
black and white and has been since day one, which
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we compiled for the book They're Lying and for the
documentary The Fall of Minneapolis. So this really is the
very first legal win for Derek Chauvin. We've also done
some reporting about a state appeal as well that is
similar to the fact that these medical records were ignored.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Liz Colin as our guest, Liz, let's take this piece
by piece, and I want to explain it slowly because
people might be driving, they may not caught every detail.
So for a judge to grant permission to lawyers for
the officer, who they claimed was the reason George Floyd
said he couldn't breathe. And I were remind listeners he
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was saying he couldn't breathe when he was sitting in
the backseat of the squad car before that. And he's
had breathing problems before when he downed a bunch of
fentanyl when he was arrested for actually just a matter
of days before that. So the judge has granted permissions
for the permission for the officer to have samples from
George Floyd examined as part of his case. What will
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that tell us? Why is that important?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah? Good, good to chat with you. Thanks for having
me back on again.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
There are just a lot of questions, and I think
people are asking the right questions.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
The thing is, so much of this has already been answered.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
It's just a matter of, you know, did the jury
really hear the full story here in Derek Chauvin's case,
And the answer clearly is no.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
So these tests, which many.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Doctors have said should have been done from the very
beginning on this paraganglioma, this tumor that George Floyd had
on his hip, which can lead to cardiac death in
many cases.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
They said right away this needs to be tested.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Doctor Andrew Baker, the Henifon County Medical Examiner, saw no.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Reason to do so.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
However, I will say, even despite what these records show,
George Floyd died from a heart attack. The first words
on the autopsy are cardio pulmonary arrests. Those the very
first words that appear in the autopsy. Days later, you
have law enforcements subdual also added to the top of
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the autopsy that was added days later after there are meetings.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
That take place with prosecutors in the FBI behind the scenes.
You have also on the original autopsy.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
No strangulation, no asphyxiation, no markings on the neck, no bruising,
no life.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Threatening injuries of George Floyd. You have three.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Times the lethal amount of a fentanyl and his system at.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Amphetamine, et cetera. So I would say that there's always.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
There's already quite a bit of you know, medical evidence
that's that's there. But what is significant about this is
they're saying that these catecholamines, the secretion of them, can
lead to an immediate heart attack. And I'll be honest,
I've had I've interviewed all of the officers that that
were involved, and they are very out of it. And
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in the fact that they were doing a trained technique,
the maximum restraint technique that mysteriously disappears from the manual
the day after George Floyd dies. And they're also honest
in the fact that you know, I straight.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Up have asked them, did you murder George Floyd?
Speaker 7 (14:44):
And they said, they all said no, something happened to
this guy.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
They were trying.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
To downgrade their force get the ambulance there even sooner,
a very problematic ambulance.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Uh response that we brought out.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
In the fall of Minneapolis as well, that hasn't been
you know, really answered to either. Something that also could
not be brought up in Derek Schouman's trial, the fact
that the ambulance took so long to get there.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
So so again there are just despite I think what
the people are obviously this is getting a.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Lot of attention now these you know, test results that
this should have been tested before.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
But there's been so much there.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
All along, you know, for more than four years now.
Just beyond this, this tumor that that George Floyd had.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Why do you think had had the request been made,
had the had this been requested before and it ended
up on the right judges desk? The timing for this
taking so long? Were there new developments that led to this?
How do we get to that point? I'll tell you
what I'm up against to break Liz Collin as our guest,
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real quickly. Is The Fall of Minneapolis still available? How
if people want to watch that? How can they do that?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah? I think that's the Fall off Minneapolis dot com.
You can watch the documentary there for free.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
We also have a new in section on that website
where we keep people up to date on certain things
happening in the case.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
All right, hain tight, right there. Liz Colin is our
guest the Fall of Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Doctor.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You are listening to Michael Barry's show. Liz Collins is
our guest. She made a documentary called The Fall of Minneapolis,
and it was a brave, courageous, noble, necessary thing to
put into evidence for the public to review in an
easy digestible form. A lot of details about George Floyd's
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death that were kept from you by people on purpose,
and we should care about the truth. We can't just
send somebody to prison because of inconvenient truths or slavery
or prejudice or whatever else. And this all came about
at the time of the twenty twenty election to create
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mayhem and chaos. And surely you understand by now. You've
seen what they did to Donald Trump in the courtroom,
You've seen the assassination attempt, You've seen so many things
COVID where you were lied to and information was kept
from you hunter Biden's laptop. There are no accidents here, folks.
I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but it is clear
to me that information has been kept from you because
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knowing would change your opinion. Okay, So I was going
to you with a question. It's the fall off Minneapolis
dot com. If you did not see her original work,
which I suggest you go to the timing of how
we ended up here, it seems sort of odd.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yeah, certainly some people have said that with.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Trump moving back into to the White House, we just
seem to live in a different day and age now.
But just back up to remind you, because there's been
a lot that has happened. So Dirk Chauvin received nearly
a twenty two year prison sentence. He finds out about
a year into it about this paraganglioma, about this tumor
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of George Floyd, and the fact that through some letters
he received in prison, the fact that some doctors had
come forward to try to raise alarm to Judge Peter K.
Hill at the time and his attorney that this testing
needed to be done. Derek himself says he was not
aware that this was even an issue at all. So
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then we have in the meantime, his appeal is his
first appeal is rejected by the Minnesota State Supreme Court
as well as the US Supreme Court decides not to
take it up as well, and that appeal was filed
on the change of venue. You know, how the heck
could Derek Chowan get a fair trial in Hennepin County. Well,
they went ahead and denied that appeal. So he starts
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working on another appeal and obviously don't get a million
a million chances here, But you're also up against a
bit of a clock. In the meantime, we put out
The Fall of Minneapolis, just all of these things that
you hadn't and we put out the book there lying
the media, the left and the death of George Floyd,
just all of these things that you probably didn't know
as a member of the public, and why weren't you
told the body camera video is withheld, etc.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Etc. So Derek himself learns more about this.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Case and is compiling a lot of different legal notes
in prison, he's stabbed twenty two times. Eight days after
the documentary comes out, he's stabbed nearly killed by a
former FBI informant who just so happened to be moved
into his unit about a month prior from what we
understand from him.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Nearly killed, loses access to his materials.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
His materials he was working with that day in the
law library are soaked in blood he cannot get them back.
He's also denied access to his computer, his laptop in
prison for months on end.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
So this is then going on.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
He puts basically a placeholder for this appeal, been working
on a handwritten note to say I'm going to be
using information from the fall of Minneapolis and new medical
evidence to work on this appeal. So finally he has
a public defender assigned to this federal appeal in this case.
It goes ahead and compiles all of this put that together,
and so this is finally the judge ruling on this,
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saying that they can go ahead with this testing.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
But it's really been a long journey just to get
this far.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Meanwhile, there is a state appeal also happening at the
same time with his state sentence, because these are wrapped
concurrently running concurrently, I should say together here, and there's
been some movement in that as well. Judge Peter khle
I can say retired. He retired in October, two years
before his term expired, so I'm not exactly sure why
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he left the bench, but there will be a new
judge taking a look at his state appeal.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That poor guy Derek Chauvin, because he knows what happened,
and he knows what most Americans don't know, and he
knows that he was not the proximate cause of George,
and he knows that a lot of people are aware
of this who are in positions of public trust, and
that they will not step in and get him out
of prison where he is in grave danger day in
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and day out. Can you imagine the weight of the
world on that man. Do you know him personally? Do
you communicate with him?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah? I do.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Actually, I would encourage people just to see my latest
interview with him, we posted just a couple of weeks ago.
Is the first time we were able to speak with
him since his stabbing, actually the year prior. But he
remains very resolved, and I think he finally has a
bit of hope that he didn't have before. And what's
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so interesting is so few reporters, no politicians. I mean,
I was really thinking, Okay, after the fall of Minneapolis,
we're going to break this case kind of wide open.
It hasn't been the case at all. I mean, it's
certainly been this organic movement. A lot of people have
watched the documentary and said, holy heck, why weren't we
told about all of this? But the people who can
actually do something about it have not really been there.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
And that's what I find pretty disturbing.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It's disturbing as it relates to him. It's kind of depressing,
you know. I like to think that people are inherently good,
not perfect, not great, prone to temptation, but I like
to think that people, have given the choice, will do
the right thing. And for this many people to not
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do the right thing, it man, it really leaves me
leaves me shocked and sad.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
No, I couldn't agree more. What does this say about humanity?
Speaker 7 (22:44):
And that you know, I often think of the officers.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
And involved here. I mean Alex King, who is you know,
his third day.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
On the job, who's thrown in prison, from a wonderful
family from North Minneapolis. His mom's a long time and
I've gotten to know them through all this. Her son
dreams of being a police officer and now will be
a lifelong selon as a result of these lives. It
doesn't have to be this way. And this is what
I always say about what has happened to Minneapolis since
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you know, they've lost forty percent of their police force,
another record year of homicides that they're closing the books on.
I could go on and on about the crime that
takes place there now that never happened. But that is
the message too. It doesn't have to be this way.
The truth can be a powerful thing, but people have
to be willing to tell it.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You know that that's just yet, that's just it. You know,
living in Houston as I do, where Sharon Watkins was
one of the time People of the Year for simply
asking the question to Ken lay Hey. With my accounting background,
this doesn't seem to make sense. She didn't burn the
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place down, she didn't run through the streets, and they
did and say people, you know, need to be sent
to prison, and you know, people's entire life savings are
going to She simply raised a question which no one
else wanted to raise. The fact that that was such
a courageous act, not to take anything away from her,
says a lot about how many people were within that
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company who cared more about themselves than they did the
investors and what was right and wrong, and that that
is sad. One more segment with Liz Colin our guest
George Floyd. Officer Derek Chauvin will be getting a new
trial with new details that have emerged in his case.
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You can see the original documentary The Fall of Minneapolis
dot Com for free on that website. Will continue our
conversation with this Collin. I will die for the country,
I will die for disclass to Michael Barry Joe. This
Colin is our guest. She made the documentary a few
years ago, The Fall of Minneapolis dot Com. She has
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recent been in the news because there has been a
development in Derek Chauvin's case. The officer who was who
ended up pleading guilty to the charges against George Floyd,
but a lot of details were not provided. He knew,
he didn't he wanted this thing to go away, but
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he now claims that he had ineffective assistance of counsel
and he's seeking a new trial, which has been granted
because he was not aware of the pathologist's report. Liz,
do we know how that came to his knowledge? I mean,
how this you know he didn't have it all these
years before. How did he come into contact with this
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new information?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, just before we.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Get too far, I just wanted to correct what you
said there. He hasn't been granted a new trial. What
he has been granted is basically access that George Floyd's
heart tissue and fluid can be tested.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
So the judge gave the go ahead.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
I read thy, conductor.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
So I just want to just want to make make sure.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
But yeah, so again the information came to Derek in prison,
that to these several different doctors who did not know
each other before all of this, had reached out to
his legal team and also to the judge at the time, saying,
you know this.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
This tumor is a red flag.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
You need to test the cat cola meines inside because
it's very common that it can lead to sudden cardiac death.
And you know, perhaps that's what we kind of see
on camera. But what's also interesting that I think people
are just picking up at this point.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Is that, you know, George Floyd is.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Pronounced dead about nine thirty at the hospital. He was
not dead there on scene, despite what wants to think. Yeah,
so he was alive, and it goes into full cardiac
arrests in fact, and the ambulance which is which is
documented as well, but we're not allowed Derek Chauvin in
his trial is not allowed to talk about really that
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the problematic response by the ambulance and that could have
been a obviously a whole piece of this but which
we tried to touch on in the Fall of Minneapolis
as well. So these medical professionals reach out to him
and they say that, you know, you need to do
everything you.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Can to you know, get this tumor tested.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
And finally a judge has has ruled in his favor
to say go ahead and and and do those tests.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Well, I think it's important, you know, every that folks
understand the meaning of these things because if George Floyd
didn't die on site, but did die at the hospital.
That would mean that most likely the approximate cause of
death is not suffocation or or some form of his
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whim pipe being of intructed by force.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Well, we already and that's what I already say. We
already know that already.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
There was no asphyxiation, no suffocation, no bruising on the neck.
That is something they knew within twelve hours. And we've
been doing extensive reporting on this for years, and you
have conversations.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
That take place between the prosecutor at the.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Time within Habington County and doctor Andrew Baker, the medical examiner.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Within twelve hours.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
He is calling her Amy Sweezey use her name, saying
the public narrative does not match basically what I'm finding
in the autopsy. This is the kind of case that
ends careers. Those were his own words. I'm documented at
that time going oh gosh, this isn't you know, this
isn't what people already are saying it is. But instead
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of releasing that information and being honest, releasing the body
camera footage and being honest, you have this manipulation taking
place behind the scenes all within just about a week,
enough to torch fifteen hundred businesses in Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
To spread protests across.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
The globe all over lies. It's really you know, to
this day, I just think absolutely repulsive what so many
people went along with. But here we are, you know,
still paying the consequences to this day.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
What's perhaps as frustrating as anything else is how many
people have made a conscious decision that well, whether he
committed the murder or not, whether what's been told is
true or not. You know, there is racism and there
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was slavery, and so you know, I really don't want
to let's just move on. You can't move on. The
truth has to be told. To start with, you got
a guy wrong fully imprisoned. And secondly, if laes can
be told and perpetuated and covered up and you're not
allowed to discuss it, and you know, as you note,
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a city can burn to the ground, this means it
can happen again.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
That yeah, And I'll be honest. I put up the
book a couple of years ago. Again it's called they're lying,
the media, the left and the death of George Floyd,
just thinking all right, I'll be able to sleep at
night now. I did my part, like, maybe somebody.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Will see this book twenty years from now and they'll say,
you know, don't basically, don't do what they did in Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
We don't. This is going to be the guide book
of what of.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
What not to do. But I think I think the
reason that, you know, the book and the documentary have
been so successful is that people still want the truth.
They believe in it, and it's sad that there are
so few people willing.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
To tell it these days, or they test the winds before,
or you know, they muster up the courage to speak it.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah. Yeah, how has your life changed as a result
of you know, because I often say many times I
call them the naive neighbors or the blissfully ignorant, the
people who don't know and don't want to know. You know,
once you start thinking about what the deep state does,
(31:26):
for instance, it bothers you, right, it becomes one of
those things like Karen Silk, would you almost wish you
didn't know?
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Yeah? I think that's a good a good point. But
you know, I'll be honest that you know, my my personal,
my professional life looks.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Radically different now than it did just five years ago.
I was the familiar face on the local news, anchoring newscasts,
reading words in front of me for for nearly twenty years.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
But I just I feel like my life has.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
Much more meaning now and my work matters now more
than I think it ever has before in my career.
So that's why I always tell people, don't ever be
afraid that you know, to take that jump and to
speak the truth, because it will pay off tenfold and
you really can actually sleep at night. I didn't really
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feel the best about what I was doing before.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
God bless you, Liz Colin. The original documentary is The
Fall of Minneapolis dot Com. We will anxiously await forthcoming updates,
and we really appreciate the work that you continue to
do in the commitment you've had. Thank you for being
our guest list part.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Thank you so much for having Merry Christmas to you guys.
That is.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
A subject we will be revisiting again and again and again, because,
by Dolly, it matters. You ask Jews today why they
continue to focus on the Holocaust eighty years later, because
the minute you don't, it will be forgotten. You ask
the Armenians, why do you people keep talking about something
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that's so many Because the minute you forget it is
the minute it goes away and didn't happen. Cannot ever
allow that to happen.
It's that time time, time, luck and load. The Michael
Varie Show is on the air. What is the real
(00:24):
cost of a legal immigration A congressional budget report pegged
at one hundred and fifty one billion dollars. But what
is the cost of your wife being murdered or your
daughter or your son? Can you can you put a
(00:44):
dollar figure on that on your sense of loss? You
don't get them back. We only get one life. The
big issue here is that violence has been brought into
a marriora by awful people and it's been denied. A
(01:06):
theme on the show today will be people in positions
of public authority that should be trustworthy lying to us.
There are some new developments in the George Floyd case.
We'll talk to Liz Colin in the next segment about
that lies that were told to you that have now
been revealed, and new tests that that are going to
(01:28):
be done according to a judge on George Floyd's body.
We know and have known that George Floyd was not
dead when he arrived at the hospital. So how was
he suffocated? It was a drug overdose, but we'll get
to that in a moment. How about the fact that
we were told by many people, politicians, mainstream media outlets, PolitiFact,
(01:57):
that trend de Aragua, the violent Venezuelan gang. Oh they're not.
They weren't operating in Aurora, Colorado. Headline. City officials and
residents say there is no Venezuelan gang takeover in Aurora, Colorado. Oh,
you people, there's not a UFO. The clock shot doesn't
(02:22):
kill anybody. Hunter Biden's laptop doesn't have anything on there
that's selling American secrets. You people, y'all just believe all
your conspiracy theories, and yet they keep coming true. Bill
Malusion deserves the highest awards of journalism. He started as
(02:49):
a Fox reporter, a local Fox reporter, and then he
was picked up by Fox National. He has stayed on
this illegal immigration story, and this really is the way
to do it. You gotta have guys focus on a
beat like the old crime reporter would do, because then
you develop contacts, relationships, you get knowledge. When guys are
bouncing from story to story, they never really develop a
(03:13):
body of knowledge that allows them to advance a story
beyond just reporting the basic news. Bill Malusion has been
on this illegal immigration story. That's his beat, and he
is really I mean, I don't know anybody that's doing
better work on the ground than he is. He was
on Laura Ingram show, and here he is talking about
(03:34):
Trende Arragua, this violent Venezuelan gang, and the fact that
before Joe Biden, they weren't a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
When the story was first reported by Fox and other
outlets said this was exaggerated, This was portrayed in a
way that was inflammatory regarding trend to Ragua, and this
wasn't as big a problem as somewhere making it out
to be. Are people paying attention now, Pill.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
They better be, Laura and you're spot on, because there
were Democrats and members of the media like who are
essentially saying, don't believe you're lying eyes. This isn't happening,
it's not an issue. It's all being blown out of proportion.
But here we go again, another violent incident in the
exact same apartment complex, and I'm hearing from federal law
enforcement sources ICE DEA, HSI all involved in this operation.
(04:24):
Over a dozen suspected Trenda Aragua gang members arrested in
this incident, and we have to look at the bigger
picture here. Trenda Arragua was never an issue in the
United States before President Biden took office. I think most
people out there probably never even heard of Trende Aragua
before Biden was president. And now we have to take
a step back because this international prison gang has literally
(04:47):
infiltrated the United States largely due to mass catch and
release policies at the border, and they're setting up shop
in different cities all across the country where week after
week we're getting these horrible headlines about violent crimes they're committing.
And at some point we got to call a spade
of spade here, right, this White House has just blatantly
gas lit the American public over the last few years.
(05:08):
How many times did we see them get up to
that podium every week and claim the border is closed,
the border is secure. They even had the nerve to
say that Nash releases weren't happening, no matter how many
times we got it on video. And look, unfortunately, the
chickens have come home to roosts at this point, large
amounts of foreign violent criminals have gotten into the United
(05:30):
States cotton released at the border because there's little to
no vetting going on, and now they're popping up in
cities and American women are paying the price, whether it's
Lake and Riley, Joscelyn Nungary, Rachel Morin. We keep seeing
these horrible headlines and unfortunately, Laura, given what we've seen
the last four years, there's probably going to be a
significant amount more of it coming, and that's probably why people.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Just voted for mass deportations. Meanwhile, you're going to be
seeing a lot of stories like this. MSNBC's Nicole Wallace
tells a story of Jimei Kachua and the fear that
he might be deported.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Listen to this, Tom and Trump and his allies have
said what they plan to do. They will begin quote
the largest deportation operation in American history, by focusing first
on deporting criminals, but once that is done, they will
go after every undocumented immigrant in the country. That's their words,
that includes people like him. Kichua Jime was brought to
(06:32):
the United States illegally by his mom and dad when
he was an infant, less than one year old. He's
now thirty three years old. He lives with his wife.
He has four young children. There's some heart wrenching new
reporting in the New York Times about Kachua. Kachua describes
his own personal story, one family story, A family in crisis,
(06:52):
now trying to make sure that this man, Jime, who
has spent more than three decades as a law abiding
member of society in his community of Rome, Georgia, doesn't
get deported when Trump comes into office next month. Quote
Jaime had never broken a law of any kind. He
worked fifty hours a week at the dealership, drove below
(07:13):
the speed limit, paid his taxes on time, and smoothed
the creases out of books before returning them to the library.
But no amount of adherence to the rules made up
for the one thing he'd broken, the one rule he'd
broken before he was old enough to walk or talk
when his family drove him across the border because his
mother had found work at a chicken processing plant outside Rome, Georgia.
(07:37):
More than thirty years later, his presence remains illegal. He
was not eligible for Social Security or food stamps, or
unemployment benefits or any kind of health insurance he could
afford couch. His father in law, Sky Atkins, who voted
for Donald Trump partly because of his hardline immigration stance,
couldn't understand how or that his family would be effected
(08:00):
to quote all those criminals that Trump's been talking about,
the rapist, the gang members, that's not you. S guy
said he'd heard Trump say that he would deport the
bad guys first and possibly show leniency to immigrants who
have been brought to the country's children.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Quote.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
You deserve to be here, Skuy said to me, you're
basically American. Quote, but I'm not, Jamie Heim said.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
The Michael Berry Show Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I lived through COVID, I lived through the twenty twenty
election fraud, and I lived through the George Floyd fraud.
And I'm not ever going to let them go because
when you can fool that many people, and when people
are scared to death to discuss what we should have
(08:51):
learned from things, then this is no longer America. When
all that went down, sometime afterwards, we interviewed a woman
named Liz Colin. She had done a documentary called The
Fall of Minneapolis, and it was so well researched and
(09:12):
the story was so incredibly well told, and it was
things that almost nobody was talking about, and it was
intentionally stifled by social media. You couldn't talk about it.
Everyone was scared. No one It says if let's just
make it go away. But there's a man serving in
(09:32):
prison and he's going to be there probably till he dies.
And I don't think he committed murder, and he basically
said he did. And there's so much to the story
that was never told. So Liz Colin is our guest.
She was on with our friend Jack Soviet, and this
(09:53):
is what we're going to talk to her. But this
is the part that caught our attention.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Listen carefully, very first legal win for Derek Chauvin.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
And we've been reporting all.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Of it over here at Alpha News, But this is
a federal judge who has finally come back approving this
motion that has been in the works four months to
examine heart tissue in George Floyd and also some fluids
from George Floyd's.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Body as well.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
And basically this is related to what's called a paraganglioma.
This was discussed in the fall of Minneapolis. Some doctors
came forward during Derek Chauvin's case to say, why wasn't
this tumor tested in George Floyd. In many cases it
can lead to sudden cardiac death.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They brought this information forward.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
His attorney at the time did not act upon this
information according to court documents, and also the judge, Judge
Peter Cahill, ignored it as well. So in this motion,
the judge has now said that this testing can take place.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
What really.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Does this tumor have anything to do with his death?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
A lot of people are also picking.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Up on the fact that George Floyd was not pronounced
dead until about nine thirty that night, that's about an
hour after this incident took place, something that we brought
out in the documentary as well. So it's interesting that
that I think people are willing to have these conversations
now to look at this evidence, which is really in
black and white and has been since day one, which
(11:27):
we compiled for the book They're Lying and for the
documentary The Fall of Minneapolis. So this really is the
very first legal win for Derek Chauvin. We've also done
some reporting about a state appeal as well that is
similar to the fact that these medical records were ignored.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Liz Colin as our guest, Liz, let's take this piece
by piece, and I want to explain it slowly because
people might be driving, they may not caught every detail.
So for a judge to grant permission to lawyers for
the officer, who they claimed was the reason George Floyd
said he couldn't breathe. And I were remind listeners he
(12:05):
was saying he couldn't breathe when he was sitting in
the backseat of the squad car before that. And he's
had breathing problems before when he downed a bunch of
fentanyl when he was arrested for actually just a matter
of days before that. So the judge has granted permissions
for the permission for the officer to have samples from
George Floyd examined as part of his case. What will
(12:29):
that tell us? Why is that important?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah? Good, good to chat with you. Thanks for having
me back on again.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
There are just a lot of questions, and I think
people are asking the right questions.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
The thing is, so much of this has already been answered.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
It's just a matter of, you know, did the jury
really hear the full story here in Derek Chauvin's case,
And the answer clearly is no.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
So these tests, which many.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Doctors have said should have been done from the very
beginning on this paraganglioma, this tumor that George Floyd had
on his hip, which can lead to cardiac death in
many cases.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
They said right away this needs to be tested.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Doctor Andrew Baker, the Henifon County Medical Examiner, saw no.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Reason to do so.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
However, I will say, even despite what these records show,
George Floyd died from a heart attack. The first words
on the autopsy are cardio pulmonary arrests. Those the very
first words that appear in the autopsy. Days later, you
have law enforcements subdual also added to the top of
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the autopsy that was added days later after there are meetings.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
That take place with prosecutors in the FBI behind the scenes.
You have also on the original autopsy.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
No strangulation, no asphyxiation, no markings on the neck, no bruising,
no life.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Threatening injuries of George Floyd. You have three.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Times the lethal amount of a fentanyl and his system at.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Amphetamine, et cetera. So I would say that there's always.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
There's already quite a bit of you know, medical evidence
that's that's there. But what is significant about this is
they're saying that these catecholamines, the secretion of them, can
lead to an immediate heart attack. And I'll be honest,
I've had I've interviewed all of the officers that that
were involved, and they are very out of it. And
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in the fact that they were doing a trained technique,
the maximum restraint technique that mysteriously disappears from the manual
the day after George Floyd dies. And they're also honest
in the fact that you know, I straight.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Up have asked them, did you murder George Floyd?
Speaker 7 (14:44):
And they said, they all said no, something happened to
this guy.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
They were trying.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
To downgrade their force get the ambulance there even sooner,
a very problematic ambulance.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Uh response that we brought out.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
In the fall of Minneapolis as well, that hasn't been
you know, really answered to either. Something that also could
not be brought up in Derek Schouman's trial, the fact
that the ambulance took so long to get there.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
So so again there are just despite I think what
the people are obviously this is getting a.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Lot of attention now these you know, test results that
this should have been tested before.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
But there's been so much there.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
All along, you know, for more than four years now.
Just beyond this, this tumor that that George Floyd had.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Why do you think had had the request been made,
had the had this been requested before and it ended
up on the right judges desk? The timing for this
taking so long? Were there new developments that led to this?
How do we get to that point? I'll tell you
what I'm up against to break Liz Collin as our guest,
(15:59):
real quickly. Is The Fall of Minneapolis still available? How
if people want to watch that? How can they do that?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah? I think that's the Fall off Minneapolis dot com.
You can watch the documentary there for free.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
We also have a new in section on that website
where we keep people up to date on certain things
happening in the case.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
All right, hain tight, right there. Liz Colin is our
guest the Fall of Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Doctor.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You are listening to Michael Barry's show. Liz Collins is
our guest. She made a documentary called The Fall of Minneapolis,
and it was a brave, courageous, noble, necessary thing to
put into evidence for the public to review in an
easy digestible form. A lot of details about George Floyd's
(16:47):
death that were kept from you by people on purpose,
and we should care about the truth. We can't just
send somebody to prison because of inconvenient truths or slavery
or prejudice or whatever else. And this all came about
at the time of the twenty twenty election to create
(17:08):
mayhem and chaos. And surely you understand by now. You've
seen what they did to Donald Trump in the courtroom,
You've seen the assassination attempt, You've seen so many things
COVID where you were lied to and information was kept
from you hunter Biden's laptop. There are no accidents here, folks.
I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but it is clear
to me that information has been kept from you because
(17:32):
knowing would change your opinion. Okay, So I was going
to you with a question. It's the fall off Minneapolis
dot com. If you did not see her original work,
which I suggest you go to the timing of how
we ended up here, it seems sort of odd.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yeah, certainly some people have said that with.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Trump moving back into to the White House, we just
seem to live in a different day and age now.
But just back up to remind you, because there's been
a lot that has happened. So Dirk Chauvin received nearly
a twenty two year prison sentence. He finds out about
a year into it about this paraganglioma, about this tumor
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of George Floyd, and the fact that through some letters
he received in prison, the fact that some doctors had
come forward to try to raise alarm to Judge Peter K.
Hill at the time and his attorney that this testing
needed to be done. Derek himself says he was not
aware that this was even an issue at all. So
(18:33):
then we have in the meantime, his appeal is his
first appeal is rejected by the Minnesota State Supreme Court
as well as the US Supreme Court decides not to
take it up as well, and that appeal was filed
on the change of venue. You know, how the heck
could Derek Chowan get a fair trial in Hennepin County. Well,
they went ahead and denied that appeal. So he starts
(18:55):
working on another appeal and obviously don't get a million
a million chances here, But you're also up against a
bit of a clock. In the meantime, we put out
The Fall of Minneapolis, just all of these things that
you hadn't and we put out the book there lying
the media, the left and the death of George Floyd,
just all of these things that you probably didn't know
as a member of the public, and why weren't you
told the body camera video is withheld, etc.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Etc. So Derek himself learns more about this.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Case and is compiling a lot of different legal notes
in prison, he's stabbed twenty two times. Eight days after
the documentary comes out, he's stabbed nearly killed by a
former FBI informant who just so happened to be moved
into his unit about a month prior from what we
understand from him.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Nearly killed, loses access to his materials.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
His materials he was working with that day in the
law library are soaked in blood he cannot get them back.
He's also denied access to his computer, his laptop in
prison for months on end.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
So this is then going on.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
He puts basically a placeholder for this appeal, been working
on a handwritten note to say I'm going to be
using information from the fall of Minneapolis and new medical
evidence to work on this appeal. So finally he has
a public defender assigned to this federal appeal in this case.
It goes ahead and compiles all of this put that together,
and so this is finally the judge ruling on this,
(20:19):
saying that they can go ahead with this testing.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
But it's really been a long journey just to get
this far.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Meanwhile, there is a state appeal also happening at the
same time with his state sentence, because these are wrapped
concurrently running concurrently, I should say together here, and there's
been some movement in that as well. Judge Peter khle
I can say retired. He retired in October, two years
before his term expired, so I'm not exactly sure why
(20:46):
he left the bench, but there will be a new
judge taking a look at his state appeal.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That poor guy Derek Chauvin, because he knows what happened,
and he knows what most Americans don't know, and he
knows that he was not the proximate cause of George,
and he knows that a lot of people are aware
of this who are in positions of public trust, and
that they will not step in and get him out
of prison where he is in grave danger day in
(21:15):
and day out. Can you imagine the weight of the
world on that man. Do you know him personally? Do
you communicate with him?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah? I do.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Actually, I would encourage people just to see my latest
interview with him, we posted just a couple of weeks ago.
Is the first time we were able to speak with
him since his stabbing, actually the year prior. But he
remains very resolved, and I think he finally has a
bit of hope that he didn't have before. And what's
(21:45):
so interesting is so few reporters, no politicians. I mean,
I was really thinking, Okay, after the fall of Minneapolis,
we're going to break this case kind of wide open.
It hasn't been the case at all. I mean, it's
certainly been this organic movement. A lot of people have
watched the documentary and said, holy heck, why weren't we
told about all of this? But the people who can
actually do something about it have not really been there.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
And that's what I find pretty disturbing.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It's disturbing as it relates to him. It's kind of depressing,
you know. I like to think that people are inherently good,
not perfect, not great, prone to temptation, but I like
to think that people, have given the choice, will do
the right thing. And for this many people to not
(22:31):
do the right thing, it man, it really leaves me
leaves me shocked and sad.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
No, I couldn't agree more. What does this say about humanity?
Speaker 7 (22:44):
And that you know, I often think of the officers.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
And involved here. I mean Alex King, who is you know,
his third day.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
On the job, who's thrown in prison, from a wonderful
family from North Minneapolis. His mom's a long time and
I've gotten to know them through all this. Her son
dreams of being a police officer and now will be
a lifelong selon as a result of these lives. It
doesn't have to be this way. And this is what
I always say about what has happened to Minneapolis since
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you know, they've lost forty percent of their police force,
another record year of homicides that they're closing the books on.
I could go on and on about the crime that
takes place there now that never happened. But that is
the message too. It doesn't have to be this way.
The truth can be a powerful thing, but people have
to be willing to tell it.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You know that that's just yet, that's just it. You know,
living in Houston as I do, where Sharon Watkins was
one of the time People of the Year for simply
asking the question to Ken lay Hey. With my accounting background,
this doesn't seem to make sense. She didn't burn the
(23:54):
place down, she didn't run through the streets, and they
did and say people, you know, need to be sent
to prison, and you know, people's entire life savings are
going to She simply raised a question which no one
else wanted to raise. The fact that that was such
a courageous act, not to take anything away from her,
says a lot about how many people were within that
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company who cared more about themselves than they did the
investors and what was right and wrong, and that that
is sad. One more segment with Liz Colin our guest
George Floyd. Officer Derek Chauvin will be getting a new
trial with new details that have emerged in his case.
(24:37):
You can see the original documentary The Fall of Minneapolis
dot Com for free on that website. Will continue our
conversation with this Collin. I will die for the country,
I will die for disclass to Michael Barry Joe. This
Colin is our guest. She made the documentary a few
years ago, The Fall of Minneapolis dot Com. She has
(24:59):
recent been in the news because there has been a
development in Derek Chauvin's case. The officer who was who
ended up pleading guilty to the charges against George Floyd,
but a lot of details were not provided. He knew,
he didn't he wanted this thing to go away, but
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he now claims that he had ineffective assistance of counsel
and he's seeking a new trial, which has been granted
because he was not aware of the pathologist's report. Liz,
do we know how that came to his knowledge? I mean,
how this you know he didn't have it all these
years before. How did he come into contact with this
(25:42):
new information?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, just before we.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Get too far, I just wanted to correct what you
said there. He hasn't been granted a new trial. What
he has been granted is basically access that George Floyd's
heart tissue and fluid can be tested.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
So the judge gave the go ahead.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
I read thy, conductor.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
So I just want to just want to make make sure.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
But yeah, so again the information came to Derek in prison,
that to these several different doctors who did not know
each other before all of this, had reached out to
his legal team and also to the judge at the time, saying,
you know this.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
This tumor is a red flag.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
You need to test the cat cola meines inside because
it's very common that it can lead to sudden cardiac death.
And you know, perhaps that's what we kind of see
on camera. But what's also interesting that I think people
are just picking up at this point.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Is that, you know, George Floyd is.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Pronounced dead about nine thirty at the hospital. He was
not dead there on scene, despite what wants to think. Yeah,
so he was alive, and it goes into full cardiac
arrests in fact, and the ambulance which is which is
documented as well, but we're not allowed Derek Chauvin in
his trial is not allowed to talk about really that
(27:07):
the problematic response by the ambulance and that could have
been a obviously a whole piece of this but which
we tried to touch on in the Fall of Minneapolis
as well. So these medical professionals reach out to him
and they say that, you know, you need to do
everything you.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Can to you know, get this tumor tested.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
And finally a judge has has ruled in his favor
to say go ahead and and and do those tests.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Well, I think it's important, you know, every that folks
understand the meaning of these things because if George Floyd
didn't die on site, but did die at the hospital.
That would mean that most likely the approximate cause of
death is not suffocation or or some form of his
(27:58):
whim pipe being of intructed by force.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Well, we already and that's what I already say. We
already know that already.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
There was no asphyxiation, no suffocation, no bruising on the neck.
That is something they knew within twelve hours. And we've
been doing extensive reporting on this for years, and you
have conversations.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
That take place between the prosecutor at the.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Time within Habington County and doctor Andrew Baker, the medical examiner.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Within twelve hours.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
He is calling her Amy Sweezey use her name, saying
the public narrative does not match basically what I'm finding
in the autopsy. This is the kind of case that
ends careers. Those were his own words. I'm documented at
that time going oh gosh, this isn't you know, this
isn't what people already are saying it is. But instead
(28:51):
of releasing that information and being honest, releasing the body
camera footage and being honest, you have this manipulation taking
place behind the scenes all within just about a week,
enough to torch fifteen hundred businesses in Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
To spread protests across.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
The globe all over lies. It's really you know, to
this day, I just think absolutely repulsive what so many
people went along with. But here we are, you know,
still paying the consequences to this day.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
What's perhaps as frustrating as anything else is how many
people have made a conscious decision that well, whether he
committed the murder or not, whether what's been told is
true or not. You know, there is racism and there
(29:49):
was slavery, and so you know, I really don't want
to let's just move on. You can't move on. The
truth has to be told. To start with, you got
a guy wrong fully imprisoned. And secondly, if laes can
be told and perpetuated and covered up and you're not
allowed to discuss it, and you know, as you note,
(30:10):
a city can burn to the ground, this means it
can happen again.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
That yeah, And I'll be honest. I put up the
book a couple of years ago. Again it's called they're lying,
the media, the left and the death of George Floyd,
just thinking all right, I'll be able to sleep at
night now. I did my part, like, maybe somebody.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Will see this book twenty years from now and they'll say,
you know, don't basically, don't do what they did in Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
We don't. This is going to be the guide book
of what of.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
What not to do. But I think I think the
reason that, you know, the book and the documentary have
been so successful is that people still want the truth.
They believe in it, and it's sad that there are
so few people willing.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
To tell it these days, or they test the winds before,
or you know, they muster up the courage to speak it.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah. Yeah, how has your life changed as a result
of you know, because I often say many times I
call them the naive neighbors or the blissfully ignorant, the
people who don't know and don't want to know. You know,
once you start thinking about what the deep state does,
(31:26):
for instance, it bothers you, right, it becomes one of
those things like Karen Silk, would you almost wish you
didn't know?
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Yeah? I think that's a good a good point. But
you know, I'll be honest that you know, my my personal,
my professional life looks.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Radically different now than it did just five years ago.
I was the familiar face on the local news, anchoring newscasts,
reading words in front of me for for nearly twenty years.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
But I just I feel like my life has.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
Much more meaning now and my work matters now more
than I think it ever has before in my career.
So that's why I always tell people, don't ever be
afraid that you know, to take that jump and to
speak the truth, because it will pay off tenfold and
you really can actually sleep at night. I didn't really
(32:21):
feel the best about what I was doing before.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
God bless you, Liz Colin. The original documentary is The
Fall of Minneapolis dot Com. We will anxiously await forthcoming updates,
and we really appreciate the work that you continue to
do in the commitment you've had. Thank you for being
our guest list part.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Thank you so much for having Merry Christmas to you guys.
That is.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
A subject we will be revisiting again and again and again, because,
by Dolly, it matters. You ask Jews today why they
continue to focus on the Holocaust eighty years later, because
the minute you don't, it will be forgotten. You ask
the Armenians, why do you people keep talking about something
(33:17):
that's so many Because the minute you forget it is
the minute it goes away and didn't happen. Cannot ever
allow that to happen.
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