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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael
Very Show is on the air. Look, Mike, we're not
going in there like that, like what hey. Look, all
our lives we've been bad boys all right, now it's
time to be good men. Who in the hell want

(00:22):
to sing that song? Good man, good man? What you're
gonna do? Well, blame me if you sing the song
like you're in it.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Get a catch home, shut down the FBI headquarters building
and open it up the next day as the Museum
of the Deep State. And you send those seven thousand
agents in the headquarters building down range to chase down rapists,
to chase down murderers, to chase down drug traffickers, and
let the cops be cops on the streets across America.
You keep a small contingent in Washington.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Dcsevoice that voice, what's it gonna do?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
What's gonna do?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
When the boys bad boys?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
That voice?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
What's it gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
You get rid of half of the legion of lawyers
and special counsels that exist within the FBI to do
one thing, to corrupt and obstruct government oversight from constitutionally
applicable committees in Congress. What to do and another aspect

(01:24):
of it, real quick is one of the biggest institutions
in the FBI that has been troubled and politicizing weaponize
has been their intel component. We have an intel agency.
I don't need it to be redone within the walls
of the FBI. We've shown when we've given them that
power what they do to it. They unluckily surveil a
president as candidate.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Bad bad point.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
For many years, I was saying, one of the seventy
two vaccines mandated for children has ever been safety tested
and reree licensing pleas see the controlled trials, and why.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
What's it? What's it? What's it? What's it going to
do when they come by? What's what's he going to
do when they come.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
And in many cases, NIH is wearying the Royals. We
got all of these new vaccine in seventy two shots,
sixteen vaccines and now even more because we're doing the
HVV vaccine. And that year nineteen eighty nine, we saw
an explosion in chronic disease and American children the neurological
disease has suddenly exploded in nineteen eighty nine eighty D

(02:51):
eighty HD, sleep disorders, languish un delays, asd autism, to
reds and drum ticksnarcilepsy. These are all things that I
never heard of, as went from one in ten thousand
of my generation, according to the CDC data, one in
every thirty four kids.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Today, another very eventful day in this great nation, occasioned
by the election of Donald Trump. Let's start with something
that happened yesterday, a terrible tragedy where a black Hawk

(03:35):
helicopter crashed into an American Airlines flight, killing all sixty
persons aboard the American Airlines flight and those aboard the
black Hawk helicopter.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
A tragedy, and.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
That is not to be overlooked what we're going to
say going forward, which is why President Trump, at his
press conference today this morning at eleven o'clock eleven o'clock Eastern,
began and ended with a moment of silence for the
lives lost. A lot of families were hurt by what

(04:20):
happened last night. President Trump committed to speak to the nation.
That is a sign of leadership, making himself available not
just to make a statement, but to answer questions.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't have to tell you that that has not
been possible for the last four years.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Because Joe Biden was incapable and the people running the
government were unwilling. To the extent that someone did speak
on the issue, they never gave answers. President Trump was
very forthcoming with regard to what we know of what happened.

(05:05):
Does he know more than he revealed, certainly, because there
are things that cannot yet be confirmed. There are people
that have to be informed first, notified first. As of
that press conference, the names had not yet been released.
And if you've never lost someone in a tragedy like this,

(05:27):
I will tell you this, there is a reason for
this convention. You don't want people to find out that
their sister died in a plane crash over the news.
It's a lack of respect for that person. So where possible,
as much as we are you hear people, I'm a
news junkie. As much as we are keen to get

(05:50):
as much information as fast as we can, that is
not information that we need to have before that person
has a moment to be told and retreat, as most
of them do from public view, to grieve and grief
they do, But it is not the role of the

(06:11):
president to grieve. His role of the president to lead.
And President Trump made several statements today, and you will
learn a lot about this country and about the people
around you by their reaction to his press conference. After
talking about what had happened, the details of what had happened.

(06:33):
In stating those details for the public to know, he
spoke to the degradation in experience and expertise.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
In our air traffic controllers and our airline pilots.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
And he spoke to the fact that that will be fixed,
that we will no longer hire on the basis of
anything other than your ability to do this very difficult,
stressful job.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Immediately, they were angered.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Because people in the bureaucracy, in the media, and in
the Democrat Party, many of whom ended up there by DEI,
are very defensive of DEI, because that's the very basis
of the position they hold. The President was stating, clearly,
while this moment has us all focused, this is why

(07:34):
competence matters. This is why you operate on a meritocracy.
Anybody can go pick flowers, presumably, but it takes real skill.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
To be an air traffic controller, one of the most
stressful jobs there is.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Takes real skill to maneuver one of these big birds
or for that matter, a black Hawk, because our military
has been overwhelmed by.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
This, and I suspect we're going to find President Trump
is aware.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
A DEI hire was somewhere involved in this process, in
this crash. I suspect we're going to find.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
It, and guess what, he's the only president's going to
step up and root it out. And that's what we ask.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I believe that the worst thing that ever happened to
America was slavery show, and the best thing that ever
happened to slavery was America and the Republican parts. We
are not all built the same. That should go without saying.
Many people don't understand that some of us can paint beautifully.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I cannot. Some of us can take a bundle of
brass and make.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
A beautiful music, and make beautiful music, make beautiful sounds.
Some of us can take a piece of wood and
some strings make beautiful sounds.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Some of us can write.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Poetry for others to sing, or for them to sing.
Some people can sing that poetry, make it beautiful. Some
people can dance. Some people can take apart an engine
put it back together. Some people can do that and
figure out how to make it more efficient. Some people
can run a really fast mile, but it's very important

(09:16):
to understand the guy that runs a really fast mile
is not usually the guy who is also a great painter.
And because you're a really fast mile runner or you
bench press a lot, we would not commission you to
paint a canvas to put in our living room that
we'd have to look at every day. So now we

(09:38):
start talking about skill sets and varying skill sets. If
you don't have the skill set to be an air
traffic controller, or an airline pilot or a helicopter pilot,
then why on earth would we put you in that position?
Because too many good people have stood by and add, well,

(10:01):
if you yell loud enough, I will relent. If you
cry hard enough, then I will relent. There are real
consequences to these sorts of things. President Trump has a
matter of days to be our president, and he is
trying to fix systemic problems and rot and decline that

(10:30):
have caused our government at every level, our major corporations
at every level to decline.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
We did not achieve excellence through DEI.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Once having achieved excellence in some level of dominance in
the world, we started worrying as a post industrial society
often will particularly a pluralistic one about making sure that
everybody got to play quarterback without regard to whether we're
going to win or not. That's what you do in
Little league, not in the pros. Let me play you

(11:08):
a bit of audio that in the airline industry is legendary.
This is from March of last year. There is an
air traffic controller arguing with a pilot who has over
fifteen years of experience. It's considered a good pilot. In fact,

(11:34):
I don't want to overstate the case, but as I
understand it, there's been a lot of people who've written
about this. A very well respected experienced pilot. She shall
we say, is not experienced, but that doesn't stop her.
The air traffic controller.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Did I mention she.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Happens to be a woman. She argues with him over
the manner in which he's doing his job, which is
landing the plane, and the basis of her experience, I
kid you not, is that she googled how to land
an aircraft.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Want you to listen to this exchange for a short approach.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
If you're going to do a power off one to eighty,
that's my point.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Well, okay, I will remember that from now on, no problem.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Yeah, when you ask for a short approach, I expect
you to turn your basi being the numbers.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
Far before be a full stop for six o'clock, Charlie.
And maybe we need to talk about that some more,
because you're the first controller of fifteen years i've ever
said that.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Well, I'm just you know, if you ask for a
short approach, a short approach.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Is when you turn your base and being the numbers.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
If I know you're a student asking for a short approach,
I know you're out there practicing and you probably will extend.
But if you're doing something other than a short approach,
don't ask for a short approach.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
Well, I will definitely look up the definition of short approach.
I've never seen where it says your turn base of
BEMA numbers because I don't see how you could possibly
do that.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Well, I googled it. Actually, I google short approach and
it's set to turn your base a beam or before
the numbers and you will land probably touch down around
this field.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Okay, well, then I apologize for requesting the wrong thing,
because everywhere else short approached me far off one eighty.
But that's them not want to be here.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I don't know. Maybe
it's because I've worked at different airports. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Maybe it's because you're a bitch. You hear that sound.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
That is the sound of every person's blood boiling who
has been subjected to this sort of nonsense. And that
is a person who is in a position and so
concerned that everyone respect them and fearful that they don't,

(14:00):
that that person oversteps their bounds and attempts to humiliate
other people.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I hear it from my military veterans. Every day.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Someone has been promoted above the group has no business
being there.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
They were promoted.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Above their experience level, often extremely inexperienced, but they check
the right box, and so they get put as a
leader of a group, whatever that size group may be,
and they start bossing people around and making errors.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
And when someone maybe a master sergeant, says, lieutenant, I
think you might have I've no low turn out hair. Yeah,
but you have no business, you're wrong.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I've seen it in other paramilitary organizations, like police departments,
where you get somebody who enters the police department. She's
an Asian female, Hispanic female, black female, whatever that may be,

(15:16):
and they need it's time to promote, So they'll promote
that person to a sergeant and then quickly they start
moving up the ranks and before you know it, and
many times there'll be an exam fire departments and police departments.
Is they'll be an exam and they don't score well enough,
but they'll curve the score and they'll end up they

(15:40):
got to get them up a rank, up a rank,
and they shoot them to the top, and they'll be
an executive assistant chief of fire or police. And that
person will be put into a position that they're not
qualified for and that they're not respected for, not because
they are a woman or a minority, but because they don't.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Have the experience to be there. And they are the
worst bosses ever because they don't sit quietly. Oh no,
they've got to boss over people. This is CNN, this
is the news ferry. That's why more people are watching
the cartoon network. Spongebobbery runs right now. I've known a.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Number of folks them to start a business, maybe out
of their garage dollars, maybe while they had a day
job at night, and typically with little or no funding
other than perhaps what they themselves could put into it,
and what they could gather up from.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Friends and family money.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
That's what most number one source of business funding in America,
and they brag about it, and they should visa. Why
you say, because people start businesses on their credit cards.
And I don't know the numbers, whether it's nine point
one percent or nine to nine point nine percent. Most
businesses fail, and I believe the number one reason businesses

(17:08):
fail is lack of funding, followed by lack of follow through.
Lack of follow up. You know, we all have that
great idea. I get great ideas all day. People email me, Hey,
what Trump ought to do is all right. But when
you have to follow up on ideas and stand by
them when everyone else has moved on, that's when it's tough.

(17:30):
Very few people have the gumption to follow through, the tenacity,
whatever word you want to use, perseverance.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well, so I've known people.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
They'll start this business, and whether it takes five years
or twenty, they massage this thing, They work this thing tirelessly,
the way a mother cares for her baby. Something we
don't talk about enough in society, by the way, And

(18:01):
I think there are two downsides of that number one.
I think mothers are shocked when they have a baby
how much time it takes.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
And I don't care.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I don't need to hear from you, Fellas. Most parenting
in the early years is done by mothers. I don't
care that your sleep was interrupted, or you had to
hold a baby for a minute, or that your wife's
being moody or depressed. This has been going on since
the beginning of time, and that woman has just gone

(18:33):
through the living hell of giving birth, which is vicious.
Oh my god, what it does to the body. It's incredible.
I can't imagine. I genuinely believe that if I'd been
a girlson of a boy, I would have obsessed over
the pain of giving birth and wouldn't have done so.
I've thought this before. I don't know how we talk

(18:54):
girls into it, especially when they see someone else go
through it. And God planted in us an amnesia so
that the Fellas don't talk about it, because we never
talk about birthing pains. And we're such wooses. I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
We ough. Oh my finger hurts, my show. We're all guilty.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Marcus Latrell lone survivor, I mean, they made a movie
about what he went through he died several times on
that mountain, and he will tell you I am a
baby compared to my wife, having given birth taken from him,
and he says it frequently. We're babies compared to women
in their pain tolerance. So wonder women give birth, It

(19:43):
really is, And it's that Amnesa is planning so they
don't remember how bad it was, and then they go
and do it again. And by the way, for every
single one of us, me and you, we owe a
mother for so to give us birth worth remembering two

(20:04):
reasons it's important that we should talk about this more.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Number one.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Because women need to know what they're getting into, but
maybe I've pointed out and know they shouldn't. And the
second one was we should highlight and put a bell around.
That's why we build monuments, We pay tribute to things.
We extol the virtues of things, because that which is
extolled will induce others to do that. When we make

(20:33):
a big deal out of being a good father, dutiful, disciplinarian, loving,
tough teacher, mentor then men will say, oh, I want
to be like that.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
When we don't do that, we'll get the dead beats
that we've got too many of So I've known so many.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
People nurture a business the way a mother nurtures a baby.
In those early years where it's nothing but a burden.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
You don't think it end.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
It takes everything you've got and then some and they
build that thing up and build that thing up, and
they finally reach some profitability, and maybe it's reaching some
good profitability and the only thing it lacks is more
money to scale this baby. Maybe it has a good brand,
maybe has a good reputation, Maybe it has good market equity.

(21:24):
Maybe it has a great team of people coordinating together,
everybody pulling in the same direction, believing in the mission.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Maybe it has a technology that has been developed.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
And improved upon, or systems, customers that love it that
are loyal, whether that's B to B or retail.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
And then some big company will say it, Ah, we
need what they have because we don't have the expertise
in that field that they do.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
That little bit of tiny company, even though we got
all the money in the world because we're public, we
got all this cash. So they will buy that company,
and as many times as not, within five years they've
closed that company or they've sold it back or sold
it to someone else. Why culture culture matters. This isn't

(22:22):
a racial discussion. This isn't a woman discussion. This isn't
an idiots versus smart people discussion. It's a culture discussion.
The culture of big companies is very different than the
culture of small private businesses. Owner operated, the owner operator

(22:46):
of a business who develops it, nurtures it is very
different than the corporate executive. It's also the case that
smaller businesses have streamline decision making processes. That's how Trump
is the president, That's how he governs, That's how he

(23:08):
ran his businesses. He makes a snap decision. By the way,
his ex wife ran one of their hotels in Atlantic City,
got rave reviews same way. He's probably learned it from him.
Very imperious nature. But decision maker. Corporations and bureaucracies are
not in media are not made up of decision makers.

(23:29):
By the way, It's one of the problems with our military.
Do you get a lot of guys and big police
departments of fire.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
You get a lot of.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Guys who can rise up the ranks by kissing ass
who cannot make a decision. Trump can make a decision.
He came out blazing today saying in no uncertain terms,
we feel horrible about what happened. But that's not what
my job is. I am not the emotor in chief.
My job is not to tell you how sad we feel.

(23:57):
That's what the Democrats would do, that's what the media want. Oh,
it's so sad. People died. It's so sad. I feel sad.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
You feel sad. You feel sad.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
I feel sad. They feel sad. These people feel sad.
Everybody is sad. That's not how you solve problems. That
is not how leaders solve problems. And if we're going
to talk about how most men and most women, there
are exceptions are different.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Is women tend to be more emotional. My wife's not.
I've never seen her cry. Men tend to be less emotional.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
I'm very emotional, but by and large, men tend to
be let's solve the problem just.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
The facts, Jack.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
You need to have people like Trump who see what
happened last night and say, let me tell you something.
This ain't happening again. We're going to solve it. That's
not what the media, the bureaucracts, and the Democrats want
to do. That's why they're so offended. The very show,
Michael Berry show, you know what fellaw This whole thing
is on you. How long are you going to ride

(25:01):
a horse through the desert without giving it a name?
Maybe it had a name and nobody told you. But
no matter what happens, nothing in nature has a name.
When it approaches you. The moment you take dominion over
it and PLoP your fat butt on top of it

(25:22):
and force it to carry you across the desert is
the moment at which you give it a name.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
And what are you bragging that you didn't give it
a name? I mean, that's on you. That means you
don't know how to name stuff. That's just dumb.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yesterday at the RFK nomination hearings, we saw Bernie Sanders
screech and holler and put that crooked finger pointing it.
And Bernie Sanders has received its public information over a
million dollars over the last few years from the pharmaceutical industry.

(26:04):
We saw Elizabeth Warren screech, howl in hysterics, just a
crazy old woman in the same way that Bernie Sanders
is a crazy old man. Bernie Sanders should be on
the faculty of a community college in a far off

(26:27):
place in Vermont where it's nothing but a bunch of
burned out old hippies doing a leisure learning class on
why communism is wonderful. And let them pay the taxes
for him, and they can sit around and read Marx
and smell bad. He's a gouy named Paul Johnson who
wrote a book called The Intellectuals. Don't email me tonight,

(26:50):
ask what's the name of that book. Go back to
the podcast and find it. I can't respond to all
those His name is Paul Johnson. He's a wonderful writer.
Read everything he wrote. He wrote about the Irish civilization,
he wrote, he wrote about the Americans. He's a wonderful,
wonderful writer. And if you say to me, I I'm
not a reader, don't have time. Get it on book,

(27:13):
Get it on tape. Audible. Audible is your friend.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
For those of you who are truck drivers or courier drivers.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Or cops, or you're in your car a lot, you
can quote unquote read books. Ramone thinks it's a makes
you a lesser person if you listen to a book
on tape.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
It's the content that matters, not the delivery. Mechanism.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Just remember that, don't ever be ashamed of listening to
a book on tape rather than reading it with your
own two eyes. Some people can't read a book or
eight hours a day, but they can listen to a
book on tape, and you can read the Library of greats,
Thomas Soul, Milton Friedman, Paul Johnson. He wrote a book

(27:57):
called The Intellectuals, and there is a chapter on Karl Marx.
Marx took up with a very rich woman who thought
he was very clever.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
You know a lot of these guys like this do this.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
And she paid his bills off capitalism her wealth, and
he wrote about the evils of capitalism. But Brnie Sanders
and Elizabeth Warren, who is herself a socialist and a fraud,
a fraud. That's why Donald Trump called her Focahontas because

(28:29):
she's a faux Indian.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
She got ahead at the University of Houston law school.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
She got a head in her career as a student
and as a professor by claiming she was a minority
and she's not.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
That's that's up there with stolen valor. All the while,
we got to do more for the minorities, and then
they go. Oh, by the way, I'm a minority. No,
you're not.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
What you're trying to do is make an uneven playing field.
What you're trying to do is short in the distance
you have to run in the.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Race so you can win. You're a cheater and a
liar and a fraud.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
So there's Bernie Sanders bought and owned by the pharmaceutical industry,
Elizabeth Warren and guess who was number four on that
list the biggest donations from pharmaceutical companies.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Mitch McConnell. Of course, I'm not sure he knows it,
but the people.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Same thing with Joe Biden, the people running Mitch McConnell
and the money he gets off of this evil evil.
It's a sad, sad day when our government is for sale.
So never never confuse all these emotions these people have.

(29:46):
Never confuse. They're really upset that our children won't have
vaccines because RFK doesn't want vaccines, and they just care
about the children. Oh, man, you ain't seen a child
in eighty seven years since you were one yourself.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Who are you kidding? You don't care about kids. You
care about A.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Subscription model of one hundred percent client base for the
people who pay your bills, and that's what our pharmaceutical
industry has become. I'm not mad at anybody for trying
to sell more product, not mad at all. I've got
a business model for this show. You got a business
model for your car repair center or your law firm

(30:32):
or whatever. We all want our business to succeed in scale. Okay,
so does pharma. But the point at which the process
has allowed people to buy influence.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Hey, as long as.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Bernie Sanders would say before every question, listen, I make
a fortune off the pharmaceutical companies. So it is now
my job as their senator to advocate on their behalf. Okay,
that's fine, full disclosure, full transparency. If we're not going
to change the laws on donation, that's fine, let's do that.
Then Elizabeth Warren can say, hey, guys, I'm about to

(31:10):
go into my hysterical, crazy old cat lady impersonation, and
I'm going to do it on behalf of the pharmaceutical companies.
And I'm going to use as the tool that I
claim to be speaking for, because I can't say, hey,
I'm here for the pharmaceutical companies. I'm going to claim
this is for the children who all need vaccines. Okay,

(31:31):
just so you don't know, I'm about to do it,
and then start screeching. Okay, fine, I'm okay with that,
because that's what's happening. That is what's happening, and the
point at which our senators are willing to be bought,
our media is willing to look the other way and
do the bidding for them. Oh rfk's against vaccines. There

(31:55):
was a moment where Elizabeth Warren was hammering him, and
Robert F. Kennedy said, you're trying to get me to
commit never to sue the vaccine companies. And she knew
that that was both true and looks very bad. So

(32:15):
she started screeching because that's what people like Elizabeth Warren do.
We've all known that woman who, when she's losing an argument,
starts screeching. And the idea is this ear piercing, frantic, wailing,
hysterical screech is supposed to make everybody else, especially.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
The man, go no, no, please Stop's all right.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Okay, And that's what she does. She's learned to get
away with that guarantee. She does it to her staff.
I guarantee you could go ask the people on her
staff if she's a tyrant to work for like Sheila
Jackson Lee was, and they will tell you she's a monster.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
And that's what they do, the ad hominem attacks.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
By the way, why shouldn't VACX vaccine makers be liable
for what they do? That's what our court system is
based on. You should have the fear of deceptive trade practices.
You should have the fear that if you make a mistake,
you injure people. That's built into the model. You should
be responsible civilly and to a certain point if you

(33:20):
had knowledge and covered it criminally for injuring people. Why
are the vaccine makers any different than the chocolate makers,
or beer makers or beef breeders.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
I mean, why shouldn't they be responsible?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Why should we just assume that they will never make
a mistake because you know how many people died from
the clock shot?

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I believe they knew people were dying and kept doing it.
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