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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
He is not pardoning his son, which he could do.
These are federal charges. He is not doing that. He's
not doing it because he is living what it means
to have a rule of law in this country. And
then it isn't I mean, if you want to know,
if he believes it, you could actually see what is
happening with his own son.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
If Biden has lost something with the American people over.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The last few years.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
It's that reminder that he is sort of the opposite
of Trump on empathy, right, He's the opposite of Trump
on some of these things. And I think this verdict
their reaction to it versus how the Trump's of reacting
to the rule of law. Certainly I think presents that
character contrast.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Let's go get all that and give me. No, you
can't find it, so I can't call then find into So.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I've learned to take it well, wish.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
It just depends myself, it just goes for me.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
But that's not the way it feels.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Joe and Joe Biden, we're so concerned about their family
that they decided to run for president. So when you
talk about the word selfish, it's almost like the word doesn't.
I mean, their decision to run for president put the
entire Democratic Party and the United States of America in
the position that it's in now.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
This pardon is just deflating for those of us who
have been out there for a few years now yelling
about what a unique threat Donald Trump is. For Joe
Biden to do something like this, nobody's above the law.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
We've been screaming. Well, Joe Biden just made clear his
son Hunter is about the law.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Isn't that they say, let's smoke it all that and
kill me the numb if you can't find it. So
I can't call just to tell.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Him I'm fine and to show.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Overcalled and look, I'm to take it. Well, I wish
my words.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
It just defends myself that it just wasn't read.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But that's not the way it is.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Donald Trump lies every time he opens his mouth.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
We've been screaming, Joe Biden repeatedly lied about this. This
just furthers the cynicism that people have about politics and
and and that cynicism strengthens Trump because Trump can just
say I'm not a unique threat. Everybody does this if
I do something for my kid, my son in law, whatever.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Look, Joe Biden does the same thing.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
But this was a selfish move by Biden, which politically
only strengthens Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It's just deflating that that lasts. The voice was former
Congressman Joe Walsh. Joe Walsh had his head so far
up Donald Trump's. But in the twenty sixteen election, I
was worried he was going to rupture something on our
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future president. He, like a number of folks, glombed on
to Trump, I think, with the expectation that they would
have a position in the administration. This is very common.
These folks will snuggle up to a candidate and promote
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them in hopes that it will lead to their own aggrandizement.
When Joe Walsh did not get that, he turned on
and Donald Trump. There's another guy's, silver haired guy Bill Something,
I forget his name. He as a radio program and
he was the biggest pro Trump guy there was out there. Now,
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to be clear, I was not a Trump guy. I
was a Ted Cruz guy. And for reasons I have
explained and will continued to explain, I did not believe
that Trump would turn out to be the president that
he's turned out to be. I did not believe that.
I still stand by the decision I made at the time,
based on the review of Trump's body and work prior
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to that point, giving money to Democrats, all sorts of things.
I didn't think he would be the president he's turned
out to be. I was wrong. I am glad I
was wrong. I would much rather that I have been
wrong this eight years later and be able to say
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the country is better for his service. And I worked
very hard to get him re elected twice. I worked
to do that twenty and twenty four and I'm proud
of that. I'm going to admit I was wrong, and
I'm never going to hide from that. In twenty sixteen,
a number of you turned against me because you believed
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that I should support your candidate. And I said, we've
reached a point in the Republic where we can disagree,
and I believe ted Cruz would be a better president
than Donald Trump. It turned out I was wrong, turned
out a number of people were right. Now I'm okay
saying that, but I find to be odd this group
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of people who were the biggest fans of Donald Trump
and turned against him what did he not do that
he promised he would do. But it's not and never
was about the country. It was always about them. Kelly
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and Conway was one of Ted Cruz's most trusted advisors.
She has a very insightful mind, brilliant lady, and she
was guiding the Cruise campaign when Cruz stepped out. Donald
Trump invited her into his inner circle and he recognized
the talent that is Kelly and Conway well, her husband
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a lawyer and a bit of a socialite in the
salons of Georgetown, in the DC community. He came on
and he really wanted to be the Attorney General, and
if not the Attorney General, then an advisor to the president.
And Donald Trump did not value his advice the way
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he did Kelly and Conway and George Conway was angered
by this, and so he joined up with this group
of ousted Republican consultants like Rick Wilson, like the pedophile
I forget his name, and they created the Lincoln Project
and they take money from very wealthy Democrats to constantly
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criticize Trump and their trolls. Really they just they just
want to They just want to muck up the engine
as much as they can create a distraction and a
lot of people will spend a lot of time on them.
But it is surprising to me how many of these
people that were big Trump supporters turned against Trump. Oh,
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he has a big ego. They tell you Trump's had
a big ego since he emerged on the scene in
the eighties. What really happened is they thought that they
were going to get prime position, pride of place, right
next to Donald Trump, and when they didn't, they turned
on him. Well, that tells me you weren't in it
for the right reasons. Anthony Scaramucci, all of them, and
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they sound they're like a a a a woman who's
been dumped by her man for his secretary. They're so bitter,
and you see there's a lot of them out there.
You see them out there, and boy, they hell had
no fury like an aspiring Trump supporter who's been scorn street.
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Michael Bay did show on Bathalump. I was notified earlier
today in a listener email. Anybody can send me an
email anywhere in the country, and I read them all.
I can't reply to them all, but I do read
them all. You can go to Michael Berryshow dot com
Michael Berryshow dot com and it says, send Michael an email,
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and it said that his friend Sam Minikey had died
and he wasn't sure if I knew Sam Minikey or not,
but that he had passed. And he told me what
a great guy he had been. And I didn't know
who Monarchy Mufflers was named after. The company ended up
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being Minuche Car Care Centers. It's one of those names
that growing up in Southeast Texas, wasn't there a Merlin also?
Was there Merlin Mufflers? I forget it, but it was
a name I didn't. You know a lot of times
if you grow up in an area that has a
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Dwayne Reid or a Wah Wah, or in Texas at BUCkies,
or you know, New Orleans, a Crystal Burger, you don't
know that the rest of the country doesn't have those, right,
especially like we had Ecker Drugs. Before there was Walgreens
and CVS, we had Ecker Drugs. It was Eckers was
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the only kind of big boy pharmaceutical business that was
back in the old days, when there would be a
guy whearing what looks like a Wayabetta behind a counter
and you could have a burger and a fountain dream
and you know kind they might have a soda jerk there,
give you whatever you want, whatever concoction, a phosphate. He
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had that funny smell that I loved. And after you
went to the doctor, you went there, maybe get your burger,
and you you know, you had to stand there and
the owner to be behind there and his wife be
around the corner, and how you're doing. And when you left,
that'd give you a peppermint. And that was how we
bought our drugs as a kid, back when we called
them drugs, and there wasn't Ecker drugs. And eventually maybe
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some people transition to that and the local shop died off.
But it's always funny when you reach an age, whether
you move off when you go to college or the military,
or for your first job, or maybe you moved because
your parents moved, and you realize that that your little
world that you thought was everybody's world was actually just
local to your to your community. I like that much
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better than where we've reached today, where there's a Starbucks
in a Walmart and the Chili's and really you're just
in anywhere everywhere America, and you lose a lot of
the local flavor. We had a clothing store called Bells,
and there were a few around, but it wasn't national.
We had Palais Royal, which was based out of Houston,
but they had a little location in Orange. We had
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some of those little shops. We had a der Wiener Snitzel.
In fact, I remember the age I was when I discovered.
I don't remember the age, but I remember there being
a moment where I discovered that Dairy Queen was a
Minnesota based company. I thought Dairy Queen was as Texas
as Texas could be. Little did I know? How could
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I know?
Speaker 7 (11:43):
So?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Anyway, the message was, I don't know if you knew Minikey.
I suspect you did. I didn't, but he passed away.
I guess today, and so I looked up Minikee and
it says Minukee Car Centers. Minikee was founded in nineteen
seventy one in Houston, Texas by Sam Miner. He started
the franchise. He started to franchise the name in nineteen
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seventy two with Harld Needell. In nineteen eighty three, GKN,
a multinational British company, bought out Minukey Discount Mufflers. In
nineteen eighty six, the company headquarters moved to Charlotte, North Carolina.
In two thousand and three, they changed the name to
Minukee car Care Centers because I guess you wanted to
expand beyond mufflers. Minikey became a privately held company, no
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longer publicly traded, and it went through you know, George
Foreman was their spokesman for a number of years, and
they sponsored and they went around this group. Looks like
it was kind of a roll up. They bought in
the Seattle Tacoma area. They bought Watts Autocare Centers. Is well,
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no Walts Walts Autocare Centers, and I guess they bought
some other words in their nine hundred and ninety six locations. Wow,
that's a big shop, all right. There's something I wanted
to get to. There's a filla named Mark Andresen. He
was a co founder of Netscape, which in its day
was a really big deal, and he is kind of
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the toast of the town in Silicon Valley, although some
people really hate him. He's extraordinarily free thinking, and he's
a guy who looks at macro trends on a level
that very few do. Think Elon Musk, He's think Peter Thiel.
These are people who see a lot of devils their
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deal flow, as they call it, across their desk. Ideas
are pitched to them. Major personalities seek to be in
their presence Jeff Beso's before that, Steve Jobs, and so
they see and hear things that most people don't. Now,
it doesn't mean that they're smarter than anyone else. It
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does mean that they have an exposure and if they
have an ability to process, to analyze and process what's
coming through true sometimes these folks can give you a
very good sense of what's happening in the country from
the most influential players. Well, he sat down with Joe Rogan,
and this is where Rogan is at his best. It
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was a long form interview, and I've been meaning to
bring this to you, but we've had so much breaking
news with everything else. Some of this take it for
what it's worth, and I'm not saying it's necessarily all true,
but some of this is very important. For instance, he
says the social media policies were a direct assault on
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free speech. You and I have experienced this, but listen
to this. There's nothing that happened to Twitter and the
Twitter files. It wasn't happening all the other companies, right,
So it's a consistent pattern. If you've got the YouTube files,
they would look exactly the same. And of course we
should get the YouTube file.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
Sure, and now we probably will now with you know,
this new administration is probably going to carve all this
stuff open. But yeah, I know, look at it was
a pattern. And then look, you know, the company's bear
a lot of responsibility and the people.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Let me hold your out there moment because we're not
going to have a chance to play the full clip here.
Trump is going to ensure and they're going to be
battles and they're going to fight him like you wouldn't believe.
I think there'll be more attempted assassinations. I think there
will be more lawfair. I think there will be intimidation.
There are lives that are going to be destroyed and
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should be over what YouTube has done, what Twitter did before, elon,
what Zuckerberg has done at Facebook. That's why he can't
get in front of Trump fast enough and is begging
Trump to spend more time with him. He's already met
with him once, the FBI, the CIA, the IRS, the
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National Institute of Health, the big pharma companies, the congressional records,
it needs to all be laid open. There are no
more secrets the American people deserve to know, and if
that happens, it's going to be calling for these people's heads.
I truly believe that the worst thing that ever happened
to America was slavery the Michael Berry Show, and the
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best thing that ever happened to slavery was America and
the Republican parts Excuston's own liy all of it. All right,
So back to Mark Andresen. His interview with Joe Rogan
is being talked about a lot, and should I would
like to amplify the message he shared. He's talking here
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about the fact that our government was putting pressure on
social media companies, which is just like the media. In fact,
social media is the media now using threats, which that's
not a power they should have, using funding, using behind
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the scenes influence. In twenty twenty, what they were doing
to Facebook and Twitter before Elon Musk bought it, they
were shutting down stories that they did life. You know,
we learned in school about Pravda, the state organ of
the of the Russian government, the Soviet style censorship, because
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it's very hard to dissent in a country when you
have no means by which to spread your message. The
founding of America was occasioned in large part by pamphleteers
Thomas Paine and the like. They would write these pamphlets
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and spread the word, Hey, folks, this is what's going
on while you're out raising your crops. We want you
to know what's going on. Well, that's exactly what our
government has been silencing. This is as old as Mankin,
the idea of censorship, and we can't just win an
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election and move on, even though we won the election
despite the censorship. And make no mistake Elon Musk buying.
Twitter created the largest outlet for user generated content to
expose what was going on in the country, and it
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made a world of difference. This censorship of big technology
by our government cannot simply be forgotten. The people involved
have to be held accountable. Here's the first part. Was
you heard the first few seconds, but here's the full clip.
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It's ninety seconds. There's nothing that happened at Twitter and
the Twitter files.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
It wasn't happening all the other companies, right, So it's
a consistent pattern. If you've got the YouTube files, they
would look exactly the same. And of course we should
get the YouTube file. Sure, and now we probably will
now with you know, this new administration is probably going
to carve all this stuff open. But yeah, I know,
look at it was a pattern. And then look, you know,
the company's bear a lot of responsibility, and the people
in the companies you know, made a lot of I
think bad judgment calls. But the government like that, the
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Biden White House was directly exerting censorship pressure on American
companies to censor American citizens, which which I think, by
the way, is just flatly illegal, Like I think it's
actually subject to criminal charges, Like I think there are
people with criminal liability who were involved in this. So
there was that there were also members of Congress doing
the same thing, which is also illegal. And then there
was a lot of funding of outside third party groups
that were that were bringing a lot of pressure down
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on censorship.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
And just an example that is there's a unit at Stanford,
you know, right next door you know to us, that
you know, was the Internet Censorship Unit that was funded
by the US government and exerted tremendous pressure on the
company's to censor and it was and it was very effective.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
At doing so.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Does it smell like soul? For when you walk those halls,
it is very dark and grim. This whole thing is
very bad. And so Stanford, yeah, h Stanford is Stanford.
By the way, another unit like that at Harvard. You know,
a bunch of universities got pulled into this, a lot
of NGOs and nonprofits got pulled into this. And so
the Twitter files showed us kind of the basic roadmap.
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And then there's this thing called the Weaponization Committee that
kind upon Jordan is running that.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Has also revealed a lot of this.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
But I would imagine the new Trump administration is going
to commit and carvel that wide open. And I know
that there are people in being applentted to senior positions
who are very determined to do that.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Mark Andrees and then explained how the government used in
goos as intermediaries to bypass First Amendment restrictions and really
enforce censorship. This is state run media. This is scary stuff.
He labeled it outsourced oppression. A clever yet troubling legal
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loophole that is designed to stifle free speech. This is
really no different than the government going to the schools
and standing in the classroom and telling the teachers, this
is what you will teach. You will not teach freedom
and democracy and the free republic. You will teach that
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big pharma is good. You will teach that big tech
is good. You will teach that a wide open border
is good. Even as we the people are watching as
the hell descends upon us.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Here's what you had to Saygo is one of those
great terms like non governmental organization, All right, like what what?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
What the hell is that?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
What is that? Tell me?
Speaker 8 (21:18):
I don't know, Well, it's it's sort of a charity,
and but what it really does it's sort of But
most of the time that's it's a it's a political entity.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
It's an entity with a political agenda.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
But then it's funded by the government in a very
large percentage of cases, including the the NGOs and the
censorship complex, like the government grants National Science Foundation grants,
like direct to the State Department grants, right direct money.
And then okay, now you got an NGO funded by
the government, Well it's not an NGO like right, that's
a geo, right right, And then you've got a conspiracy,
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you know, like I says the shore. Then you have
a conspiracy because you've got government officials using government money
to fund are what look like private organizations that aren't.
And then what happens is the government outsources to these
and she owes the things that it's not legally allowed
to do, like what like like censorship, Oh okay, like
violation of First Amendment, right right right?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
The government.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
So the first So what they always say it is
the First Amendment only applies to the government. The First
Amendment says, the government cannot cannot sense your American citizens.
And so what they do is, if you want to
censor American citizens, you're in the government. If you're smart,
you don't do that. What you do is you fund
an outside organization and then you have them do it.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's a smart man telling you exactly what's going on.
But the censorship in the control extends far beyond social media.
Mark Andreason issued a chilling warning. Unlike China's overt systems,
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these American mechanisms are concealed within what look like private
industries banking, insurance, want to purchase a home, want to
travel on a vacation, want to access your bank. The
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message is very clear, comply with our social mandates or
face the consequences. Ah man, I'm sorry, Ramon, I wasn't
watching the clock. We'll play that clip coming up. Stay tuned.
I didn't you know what, I didn't even see that.
I didn't even see Uh. This stuff is so good
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because he's putting it all together in one place. He's
not a real dynamic speaker, so you have to understand that.
But but this guy brings a perspective because of what
he does and who he knows. I'll play that clip
coming up as dog. Sorry about that, at least chairs
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rolling around, damn it. All right, this is Mark Chestnut
and Jar Bizar of Talk Radio. All right, let's get
to Mark Andrews and these social credit systems which use
private companies to enforce the social mandates of the left
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of socialism. So you don't think of it as the government,
but it's directed by the government. It's toward a government
end and they use your bank, your insurance company, all
of them to control you. Zero new banks, yeah zero.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Literally, it was like cardiac arrest.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
It was like that's it for New bank charters, and
we've had companies that have tried to start new banks
and it's it's essentially impossible because you have to comply
with the wall of regulation. You need to go hire
your ten thousand compliance people and your lawyers. But you
can't afford to do that because you're not big enough yet.
You can't function like you can't exist, like it's ruled
it's by definition is ruled out.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You can't do it. It's not financially viable.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
So that happened in banking. That's what they've been doing
in social media has been the same. It's been the same.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
By the way.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
This has happened in many other industries. By the way,
this this is this happened in the food and the
food industry is greatly consolidated. That that's a lot of
what's happened in that industry as well. And it's it's
the I think what it's the intertwining of government and
the company, right because because at that point it's like, okay,
is this a private company. Yes, Like it's still a
private company. It has a stock price. As a CEO,
does the CEO have to do everything that the relevant
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cabinet secretary tells him to do yes, he does.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Why does he have to do that?
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Because if not, it's going to be investigations of subpoenas
and prosecutions and protological examinations for the rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Everything.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
That's essentially what we accuse the CCP of doing in China.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
It's so, it's so so if you combine banking and
social media and and now AI, you have basically privatize
social credits. Core right is where you end up with
this right. And this goes back to the Trucker Struke thing.
You don't have to threaten to take away somebody's kids,
you just like you thret to take away their insurance.
You know, it's trying to take away their insurance. It's
not government insurance. It's being taken away. The same thing
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has happened in the insurance industry. It's consolidated down to
a small handful of companies. They're superregulated. If the government
doesn't want you to have insurance, you're not going to
have insurance. And there's no constitutional right to insurance. So
there's so there's there's no appeal process. We're back to
the de banking thing. And so that happened in banking,
that's been happening in internet and tech, social media generally,
it's been happening in many other sectors, and then it's
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happening specifically in AI. And what you have an AI
is you have a set of CEOs of some of
the big AA companies that want this to happen because again,
their big threat is that we're going to fund a
startup that's going to eat their lunch, right, It's going
to really screw them up. And so they're like, look,
if we could just take the position we have and
lock it in with government protection, the trade is we'll
do whatever the government wants. And if you assume the
government is controlled by, you know, people who want you
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sensor and punish and cancel their political opponents, that's going
to come right along with it.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You don't have to agree with all of it. Just
think I've said for a more twenty years on this show,
I'm not here to tell you how to think. I'm
here to tell you to think, to question, to not
be the naive neighbor, to understand that there are people
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with evil intents, but they don't they don't tell you
of their intent as if it's evil, they tell you.
They're out to protect you from other people who are evil.
But what they want, what they want is control through regulation.
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And this gets back to what we talked about earlier
in the show. Today this is Mark Andrews and on
Joe Rogan's show. And so there's a couple of steps.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
So one is you just want a small number of
companies that do AI because you want to be able
to put them in a head like and control them.
So you basically want to give you basically want to
have a government. You want to bless a small set
of laur companies with a cartel instead of a regulatory
structure where those companies are intertwined with the government.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And then you want to prevent startups from being able
to enter that cartel.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
How would they do that? That's a threat to the control.
So it's it's constant called regulatory capture. And so the
way when this is this has happened many times for
you know, hundreds of years. This is like a very
well established kind of thing in economics and politics. So
I suppose you're a Supose you're a big bank. Suppose
you're Jamie Diamond, you run JP Morgan Chase, Like, what's
like the biggest possible threat of what you could possibly face,
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it's that there's some disruptive change that comes along that
up ends your entire business. You know your Kodeac, you
know your Code Act. We're making a ton of money
on an analog film and the digital cameras come along
and you get destroyed, and for in your obituary it's like,
you're the idiot. You know who's Blockbuster video? Blockbuster video?
Like that's the cautionarytail. Those are the ghost stories that
those guys tell around a campfire at night. They're just
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absolutely terrifying, and like business schools teach you, like, that's
the one thing you do not want to do. And
so there's two ways to try to deal with that.
One is you could try to invent the future before
it happens to you. But that's hard because you're running
a big company and you know these startups are out
there doing all these crazy things, and can you really
do that? And it's hard and frisky and dangerous. The
other thing you can do is you can go to
the government. You can basically say, okay, we're going to
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we would like to propose basically a trade, which is
we would like the government to put up a wall
of regulation. Right. We would like the government to put
in place rules right that are potentially thousands of pages long.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
In fact, the more the better. Right.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
We want a very very very high bar for regulation
for what's required to be in this business. Because I'm
a big company, I can afford ten thousand lawyers and
compliance people.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Right.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
I voluntarily put myself under basically the government thumb. But
in return, the government has erected this wall of regulation
such that the next startup comes along and just literally
the next company comes along and just literally can't function.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
There are we all on the show listened to the
entirety of the interview. And obviously our format is not
set up. Rogans is a long form convers station and
we are more of a news magazine style format. I
know talk shows don't normally say that, but that's how
I look at our clock. I encourage you to go.
(30:14):
I know that a lot of people are put off
by the length of Rogan's podcast. I've been told that,
but I'm going to tell you, if you're going to
devote some time to something, this would be a good one.
We've tried to bring you the highlights and in fact.
During this hour of tomorrow's show, will bring you a
couple more clips of that, as well as Tucker Carlson
(30:35):
in Moscow interviewing Russia's foreign minister even though the United
States government wouldn't let him do that, told him were
and Tucker Carlson showing, look, we're in a hot war
with Russia right now, a hot war meaning live rounds
our men, their men. If that's happening, why is it
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not being reported? I don't think Tucker Carlson has a
tendency over his career to simply make things up. Why
would the Russian foreign minister say that's happening if it's not.
And let me ask, here's a sad state of affairs.
Do you trust the Russian Foreign minister when he says
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they're firing on us and we're firing on them. Or
do you trust the United States government who says no, no, no,
Ukraine wouldn't do that, that would never happen. Do you
trust Joe Biden who fell asleep with the Africans today?
Do you trust the crowd of people around him who
(31:39):
pardoned under Biden yesterday after swearing they wouldn't. The sad
reality is if I were to ask you who's more trustworthy.
Let's leave Tucker Carlson out of it, Russia's foreign minister
or the United States government. Well, that's a horrible state
of affairs we've reached, Isn't it? Process that for a moment,
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
He is not pardoning his son, which he could do.
These are federal charges. He is not doing that. He's
not doing it because he is living what it means
to have a rule of law in this country. And
then it isn't I mean, if you want to know,
if he believes it, you could actually see what is
happening with his own son.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
If Biden has lost something with the American people over.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The last few years.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
It's that reminder that he is sort of the opposite
of Trump on empathy, right, He's the opposite of Trump
on some of these things. And I think this verdict
their reaction to it versus how the Trump's of reacting
to the rule of law. Certainly I think presents that
character contrast.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Let's go get all that and give me. No, you
can't find it, so I can't call then find into So.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I've learned to take it well, wish.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
It just depends myself, it just goes for me.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
But that's not the way it feels.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Joe and Joe Biden, we're so concerned about their family
that they decided to run for president. So when you
talk about the word selfish, it's almost like the word doesn't.
I mean, their decision to run for president put the
entire Democratic Party and the United States of America in
the position that it's in now.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
This pardon is just deflating for those of us who
have been out there for a few years now yelling
about what a unique threat Donald Trump is. For Joe
Biden to do something like this, nobody's above the law.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
We've been screaming. Well, Joe Biden just made clear his
son Hunter is about the law.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Isn't that they say, let's smoke it all that and
kill me the numb if you can't find it. So
I can't call just to tell.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Him I'm fine and to show.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Overcalled and look, I'm to take it. Well, I wish
my words.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
It just defends myself that it just wasn't read.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But that's not the way it is.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Donald Trump lies every time he opens his mouth.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
We've been screaming, Joe Biden repeatedly lied about this. This
just furthers the cynicism that people have about politics and
and and that cynicism strengthens Trump because Trump can just
say I'm not a unique threat. Everybody does this if
I do something for my kid, my son in law, whatever.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Look, Joe Biden does the same thing.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
But this was a selfish move by Biden, which politically
only strengthens Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It's just deflating that that lasts. The voice was former
Congressman Joe Walsh. Joe Walsh had his head so far
up Donald Trump's. But in the twenty sixteen election, I
was worried he was going to rupture something on our
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future president. He, like a number of folks, glombed on
to Trump, I think, with the expectation that they would
have a position in the administration. This is very common.
These folks will snuggle up to a candidate and promote
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them in hopes that it will lead to their own aggrandizement.
When Joe Walsh did not get that, he turned on
and Donald Trump. There's another guy's, silver haired guy Bill Something,
I forget his name. He as a radio program and
he was the biggest pro Trump guy there was out there. Now,
(04:11):
to be clear, I was not a Trump guy. I
was a Ted Cruz guy. And for reasons I have
explained and will continued to explain, I did not believe
that Trump would turn out to be the president that
he's turned out to be. I did not believe that.
I still stand by the decision I made at the time,
based on the review of Trump's body and work prior
(04:34):
to that point, giving money to Democrats, all sorts of things.
I didn't think he would be the president he's turned
out to be. I was wrong. I am glad I
was wrong. I would much rather that I have been
wrong this eight years later and be able to say
(04:54):
the country is better for his service. And I worked
very hard to get him re elected twice. I worked
to do that twenty and twenty four and I'm proud
of that. I'm going to admit I was wrong, and
I'm never going to hide from that. In twenty sixteen,
a number of you turned against me because you believed
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that I should support your candidate. And I said, we've
reached a point in the Republic where we can disagree,
and I believe ted Cruz would be a better president
than Donald Trump. It turned out I was wrong, turned
out a number of people were right. Now I'm okay
saying that, but I find to be odd this group
(05:39):
of people who were the biggest fans of Donald Trump
and turned against him what did he not do that
he promised he would do. But it's not and never
was about the country. It was always about them. Kelly
(06:00):
and Conway was one of Ted Cruz's most trusted advisors.
She has a very insightful mind, brilliant lady, and she
was guiding the Cruise campaign when Cruz stepped out. Donald
Trump invited her into his inner circle and he recognized
the talent that is Kelly and Conway well, her husband
(06:22):
a lawyer and a bit of a socialite in the
salons of Georgetown, in the DC community. He came on
and he really wanted to be the Attorney General, and
if not the Attorney General, then an advisor to the president.
And Donald Trump did not value his advice the way
(06:45):
he did Kelly and Conway and George Conway was angered
by this, and so he joined up with this group
of ousted Republican consultants like Rick Wilson, like the pedophile
I forget his name, and they created the Lincoln Project
and they take money from very wealthy Democrats to constantly
(07:08):
criticize Trump and their trolls. Really they just they just
want to They just want to muck up the engine
as much as they can create a distraction and a
lot of people will spend a lot of time on them.
But it is surprising to me how many of these
people that were big Trump supporters turned against Trump. Oh,
(07:29):
he has a big ego. They tell you Trump's had
a big ego since he emerged on the scene in
the eighties. What really happened is they thought that they
were going to get prime position, pride of place, right
next to Donald Trump, and when they didn't, they turned
on him. Well, that tells me you weren't in it
for the right reasons. Anthony Scaramucci, all of them, and
(07:53):
they sound they're like a a a a woman who's
been dumped by her man for his secretary. They're so bitter,
and you see there's a lot of them out there.
You see them out there, and boy, they hell had
no fury like an aspiring Trump supporter who's been scorn street.
(08:21):
Michael Bay did show on Bathalump. I was notified earlier
today in a listener email. Anybody can send me an
email anywhere in the country, and I read them all.
I can't reply to them all, but I do read
them all. You can go to Michael Berryshow dot com
Michael Berryshow dot com and it says, send Michael an email,
(08:43):
and it said that his friend Sam Minikey had died
and he wasn't sure if I knew Sam Minikey or not,
but that he had passed. And he told me what
a great guy he had been. And I didn't know
who Monarchy Mufflers was named after. The company ended up
(09:05):
being Minuche Car Care Centers. It's one of those names
that growing up in Southeast Texas, wasn't there a Merlin also?
Was there Merlin Mufflers? I forget it, but it was
a name I didn't. You know a lot of times
if you grow up in an area that has a
(09:26):
Dwayne Reid or a Wah Wah, or in Texas at BUCkies,
or you know, New Orleans, a Crystal Burger, you don't
know that the rest of the country doesn't have those, right,
especially like we had Ecker Drugs. Before there was Walgreens
and CVS, we had Ecker Drugs. It was Eckers was
(09:47):
the only kind of big boy pharmaceutical business that was
back in the old days, when there would be a
guy whearing what looks like a Wayabetta behind a counter
and you could have a burger and a fountain dream
and you know kind they might have a soda jerk there,
give you whatever you want, whatever concoction, a phosphate. He
(10:08):
had that funny smell that I loved. And after you
went to the doctor, you went there, maybe get your burger,
and you you know, you had to stand there and
the owner to be behind there and his wife be
around the corner, and how you're doing. And when you left,
that'd give you a peppermint. And that was how we
bought our drugs as a kid, back when we called
them drugs, and there wasn't Ecker drugs. And eventually maybe
(10:33):
some people transition to that and the local shop died off.
But it's always funny when you reach an age, whether
you move off when you go to college or the military,
or for your first job, or maybe you moved because
your parents moved, and you realize that that your little
world that you thought was everybody's world was actually just
local to your to your community. I like that much
(10:57):
better than where we've reached today, where there's a Starbucks
in a Walmart and the Chili's and really you're just
in anywhere everywhere America, and you lose a lot of
the local flavor. We had a clothing store called Bells,
and there were a few around, but it wasn't national.
We had Palais Royal, which was based out of Houston,
but they had a little location in Orange. We had
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some of those little shops. We had a der Wiener Snitzel.
In fact, I remember the age I was when I discovered.
I don't remember the age, but I remember there being
a moment where I discovered that Dairy Queen was a
Minnesota based company. I thought Dairy Queen was as Texas
as Texas could be. Little did I know? How could
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I know?
Speaker 7 (11:43):
So?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Anyway, the message was, I don't know if you knew Minikey.
I suspect you did. I didn't, but he passed away.
I guess today, and so I looked up Minikee and
it says Minukee Car Centers. Minikee was founded in nineteen
seventy one in Houston, Texas by Sam Miner. He started
the franchise. He started to franchise the name in nineteen
(12:05):
seventy two with Harld Needell. In nineteen eighty three, GKN,
a multinational British company, bought out Minukey Discount Mufflers. In
nineteen eighty six, the company headquarters moved to Charlotte, North Carolina.
In two thousand and three, they changed the name to
Minukee car Care Centers because I guess you wanted to
expand beyond mufflers. Minikey became a privately held company, no
(12:27):
longer publicly traded, and it went through you know, George
Foreman was their spokesman for a number of years, and
they sponsored and they went around this group. Looks like
it was kind of a roll up. They bought in
the Seattle Tacoma area. They bought Watts Autocare Centers. Is well,
(12:47):
no Walts Walts Autocare Centers, and I guess they bought
some other words in their nine hundred and ninety six locations. Wow,
that's a big shop, all right. There's something I wanted
to get to. There's a filla named Mark Andresen. He
was a co founder of Netscape, which in its day
was a really big deal, and he is kind of
(13:10):
the toast of the town in Silicon Valley, although some
people really hate him. He's extraordinarily free thinking, and he's
a guy who looks at macro trends on a level
that very few do. Think Elon Musk, He's think Peter Thiel.
These are people who see a lot of devils their
(13:32):
deal flow, as they call it, across their desk. Ideas
are pitched to them. Major personalities seek to be in
their presence Jeff Beso's before that, Steve Jobs, and so
they see and hear things that most people don't. Now,
it doesn't mean that they're smarter than anyone else. It
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does mean that they have an exposure and if they
have an ability to process, to analyze and process what's
coming through true sometimes these folks can give you a
very good sense of what's happening in the country from
the most influential players. Well, he sat down with Joe Rogan,
and this is where Rogan is at his best. It
(14:14):
was a long form interview, and I've been meaning to
bring this to you, but we've had so much breaking
news with everything else. Some of this take it for
what it's worth, and I'm not saying it's necessarily all true,
but some of this is very important. For instance, he
says the social media policies were a direct assault on
(14:35):
free speech. You and I have experienced this, but listen
to this. There's nothing that happened to Twitter and the
Twitter files. It wasn't happening all the other companies, right,
So it's a consistent pattern. If you've got the YouTube files,
they would look exactly the same. And of course we
should get the YouTube file.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
Sure, and now we probably will now with you know,
this new administration is probably going to carve all this
stuff open. But yeah, I know, look at it was
a pattern. And then look, you know, the company's bear
a lot of responsibility and the people.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Let me hold your out there moment because we're not
going to have a chance to play the full clip here.
Trump is going to ensure and they're going to be
battles and they're going to fight him like you wouldn't believe.
I think there'll be more attempted assassinations. I think there
will be more lawfair. I think there will be intimidation.
There are lives that are going to be destroyed and
(15:17):
should be over what YouTube has done, what Twitter did before, elon,
what Zuckerberg has done at Facebook. That's why he can't
get in front of Trump fast enough and is begging
Trump to spend more time with him. He's already met
with him once, the FBI, the CIA, the IRS, the
(15:38):
National Institute of Health, the big pharma companies, the congressional records,
it needs to all be laid open. There are no
more secrets the American people deserve to know, and if
that happens, it's going to be calling for these people's heads.
I truly believe that the worst thing that ever happened
to America was slavery the Michael Berry Show, and the
(15:59):
best thing that ever happened to slavery was America and
the Republican parts Excuston's own liy all of it. All right,
So back to Mark Andresen. His interview with Joe Rogan
is being talked about a lot, and should I would
like to amplify the message he shared. He's talking here
(16:22):
about the fact that our government was putting pressure on
social media companies, which is just like the media. In fact,
social media is the media now using threats, which that's
not a power they should have, using funding, using behind
(16:47):
the scenes influence. In twenty twenty, what they were doing
to Facebook and Twitter before Elon Musk bought it, they
were shutting down stories that they did life. You know,
we learned in school about Pravda, the state organ of
the of the Russian government, the Soviet style censorship, because
(17:11):
it's very hard to dissent in a country when you
have no means by which to spread your message. The
founding of America was occasioned in large part by pamphleteers
Thomas Paine and the like. They would write these pamphlets
(17:31):
and spread the word, Hey, folks, this is what's going
on while you're out raising your crops. We want you
to know what's going on. Well, that's exactly what our
government has been silencing. This is as old as Mankin,
the idea of censorship, and we can't just win an
(17:53):
election and move on, even though we won the election
despite the censorship. And make no mistake Elon Musk buying.
Twitter created the largest outlet for user generated content to
expose what was going on in the country, and it
(18:15):
made a world of difference. This censorship of big technology
by our government cannot simply be forgotten. The people involved
have to be held accountable. Here's the first part. Was
you heard the first few seconds, but here's the full clip.
(18:35):
It's ninety seconds. There's nothing that happened at Twitter and
the Twitter files.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
It wasn't happening all the other companies, right, So it's
a consistent pattern. If you've got the YouTube files, they
would look exactly the same. And of course we should
get the YouTube file. Sure, and now we probably will
now with you know, this new administration is probably going
to carve all this stuff open. But yeah, I know,
look at it was a pattern. And then look, you know,
the company's bear a lot of responsibility, and the people
in the companies you know, made a lot of I
think bad judgment calls. But the government like that, the
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Biden White House was directly exerting censorship pressure on American
companies to censor American citizens, which which I think, by
the way, is just flatly illegal, Like I think it's
actually subject to criminal charges, Like I think there are
people with criminal liability who were involved in this. So
there was that there were also members of Congress doing
the same thing, which is also illegal. And then there
was a lot of funding of outside third party groups
that were that were bringing a lot of pressure down
(19:21):
on censorship.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
And just an example that is there's a unit at Stanford,
you know, right next door you know to us, that
you know, was the Internet Censorship Unit that was funded
by the US government and exerted tremendous pressure on the
company's to censor and it was and it was very effective.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
At doing so.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Does it smell like soul? For when you walk those halls,
it is very dark and grim. This whole thing is
very bad. And so Stanford, yeah, h Stanford is Stanford.
By the way, another unit like that at Harvard. You know,
a bunch of universities got pulled into this, a lot
of NGOs and nonprofits got pulled into this. And so
the Twitter files showed us kind of the basic roadmap.
(19:56):
And then there's this thing called the Weaponization Committee that
kind upon Jordan is running that.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Has also revealed a lot of this.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
But I would imagine the new Trump administration is going
to commit and carvel that wide open. And I know
that there are people in being applentted to senior positions
who are very determined to do that.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Mark Andrees and then explained how the government used in
goos as intermediaries to bypass First Amendment restrictions and really
enforce censorship. This is state run media. This is scary stuff.
He labeled it outsourced oppression. A clever yet troubling legal
(20:36):
loophole that is designed to stifle free speech. This is
really no different than the government going to the schools
and standing in the classroom and telling the teachers, this
is what you will teach. You will not teach freedom
and democracy and the free republic. You will teach that
(20:57):
big pharma is good. You will teach that big tech
is good. You will teach that a wide open border
is good. Even as we the people are watching as
the hell descends upon us.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Here's what you had to Saygo is one of those
great terms like non governmental organization, All right, like what what?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
What the hell is that?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
What is that? Tell me?
Speaker 8 (21:18):
I don't know, Well, it's it's sort of a charity,
and but what it really does it's sort of But
most of the time that's it's a it's a political entity.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
It's an entity with a political agenda.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
But then it's funded by the government in a very
large percentage of cases, including the the NGOs and the
censorship complex, like the government grants National Science Foundation grants,
like direct to the State Department grants, right direct money.
And then okay, now you got an NGO funded by
the government, Well it's not an NGO like right, that's
a geo, right right, And then you've got a conspiracy,
(21:48):
you know, like I says the shore. Then you have
a conspiracy because you've got government officials using government money
to fund are what look like private organizations that aren't.
And then what happens is the government outsources to these
and she owes the things that it's not legally allowed
to do, like what like like censorship, Oh okay, like
violation of First Amendment, right right right?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
The government.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
So the first So what they always say it is
the First Amendment only applies to the government. The First
Amendment says, the government cannot cannot sense your American citizens.
And so what they do is, if you want to
censor American citizens, you're in the government. If you're smart,
you don't do that. What you do is you fund
an outside organization and then you have them do it.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's a smart man telling you exactly what's going on.
But the censorship in the control extends far beyond social media.
Mark Andreason issued a chilling warning. Unlike China's overt systems,
(22:46):
these American mechanisms are concealed within what look like private
industries banking, insurance, want to purchase a home, want to
travel on a vacation, want to access your bank. The
(23:11):
message is very clear, comply with our social mandates or
face the consequences. Ah man, I'm sorry, Ramon, I wasn't
watching the clock. We'll play that clip coming up. Stay tuned.
I didn't you know what, I didn't even see that.
I didn't even see Uh. This stuff is so good
(23:36):
because he's putting it all together in one place. He's
not a real dynamic speaker, so you have to understand that.
But but this guy brings a perspective because of what
he does and who he knows. I'll play that clip
coming up as dog. Sorry about that, at least chairs
(23:57):
rolling around, damn it. All right, this is Mark Chestnut
and Jar Bizar of Talk Radio. All right, let's get
to Mark Andrews and these social credit systems which use
private companies to enforce the social mandates of the left
(24:19):
of socialism. So you don't think of it as the government,
but it's directed by the government. It's toward a government
end and they use your bank, your insurance company, all
of them to control you. Zero new banks, yeah zero.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Literally, it was like cardiac arrest.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
It was like that's it for New bank charters, and
we've had companies that have tried to start new banks
and it's it's essentially impossible because you have to comply
with the wall of regulation. You need to go hire
your ten thousand compliance people and your lawyers. But you
can't afford to do that because you're not big enough yet.
You can't function like you can't exist, like it's ruled
it's by definition is ruled out.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You can't do it. It's not financially viable.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
So that happened in banking. That's what they've been doing
in social media has been the same. It's been the same.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
By the way.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
This has happened in many other industries. By the way,
this this is this happened in the food and the
food industry is greatly consolidated. That that's a lot of
what's happened in that industry as well. And it's it's
the I think what it's the intertwining of government and
the company, right because because at that point it's like, okay,
is this a private company. Yes, Like it's still a
private company. It has a stock price. As a CEO,
does the CEO have to do everything that the relevant
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cabinet secretary tells him to do yes, he does.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Why does he have to do that?
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Because if not, it's going to be investigations of subpoenas
and prosecutions and protological examinations for the rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Everything.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
That's essentially what we accuse the CCP of doing in China.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
It's so, it's so so if you combine banking and
social media and and now AI, you have basically privatize
social credits. Core right is where you end up with
this right. And this goes back to the Trucker Struke thing.
You don't have to threaten to take away somebody's kids,
you just like you thret to take away their insurance.
You know, it's trying to take away their insurance. It's
not government insurance. It's being taken away. The same thing
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has happened in the insurance industry. It's consolidated down to
a small handful of companies. They're superregulated. If the government
doesn't want you to have insurance, you're not going to
have insurance. And there's no constitutional right to insurance. So
there's so there's there's no appeal process. We're back to
the de banking thing. And so that happened in banking,
that's been happening in internet and tech, social media generally,
it's been happening in many other sectors, and then it's
(26:25):
happening specifically in AI. And what you have an AI
is you have a set of CEOs of some of
the big AA companies that want this to happen because again,
their big threat is that we're going to fund a
startup that's going to eat their lunch, right, It's going
to really screw them up. And so they're like, look,
if we could just take the position we have and
lock it in with government protection, the trade is we'll
do whatever the government wants. And if you assume the
government is controlled by, you know, people who want you
(26:47):
sensor and punish and cancel their political opponents, that's going
to come right along with it.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You don't have to agree with all of it. Just
think I've said for a more twenty years on this show,
I'm not here to tell you how to think. I'm
here to tell you to think, to question, to not
be the naive neighbor, to understand that there are people
(27:15):
with evil intents, but they don't they don't tell you
of their intent as if it's evil, they tell you.
They're out to protect you from other people who are evil.
But what they want, what they want is control through regulation.
(27:39):
And this gets back to what we talked about earlier
in the show. Today this is Mark Andrews and on
Joe Rogan's show. And so there's a couple of steps.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
So one is you just want a small number of
companies that do AI because you want to be able
to put them in a head like and control them.
So you basically want to give you basically want to
have a government. You want to bless a small set
of laur companies with a cartel instead of a regulatory
structure where those companies are intertwined with the government.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And then you want to prevent startups from being able
to enter that cartel.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
How would they do that? That's a threat to the control.
So it's it's constant called regulatory capture. And so the
way when this is this has happened many times for
you know, hundreds of years. This is like a very
well established kind of thing in economics and politics. So
I suppose you're a Supose you're a big bank. Suppose
you're Jamie Diamond, you run JP Morgan Chase, Like, what's
like the biggest possible threat of what you could possibly face,
(28:29):
it's that there's some disruptive change that comes along that
up ends your entire business. You know your Kodeac, you
know your Code Act. We're making a ton of money
on an analog film and the digital cameras come along
and you get destroyed, and for in your obituary it's like,
you're the idiot. You know who's Blockbuster video? Blockbuster video?
Like that's the cautionarytail. Those are the ghost stories that
those guys tell around a campfire at night. They're just
(28:50):
absolutely terrifying, and like business schools teach you, like, that's
the one thing you do not want to do. And
so there's two ways to try to deal with that.
One is you could try to invent the future before
it happens to you. But that's hard because you're running
a big company and you know these startups are out
there doing all these crazy things, and can you really
do that? And it's hard and frisky and dangerous. The
other thing you can do is you can go to
the government. You can basically say, okay, we're going to
(29:11):
we would like to propose basically a trade, which is
we would like the government to put up a wall
of regulation. Right. We would like the government to put
in place rules right that are potentially thousands of pages long.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
In fact, the more the better. Right.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
We want a very very very high bar for regulation
for what's required to be in this business. Because I'm
a big company, I can afford ten thousand lawyers and
compliance people.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Right.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
I voluntarily put myself under basically the government thumb. But
in return, the government has erected this wall of regulation
such that the next startup comes along and just literally
the next company comes along and just literally can't function.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
There are we all on the show listened to the
entirety of the interview. And obviously our format is not
set up. Rogans is a long form convers station and
we are more of a news magazine style format. I
know talk shows don't normally say that, but that's how
I look at our clock. I encourage you to go.
(30:14):
I know that a lot of people are put off
by the length of Rogan's podcast. I've been told that,
but I'm going to tell you, if you're going to
devote some time to something, this would be a good one.
We've tried to bring you the highlights and in fact.
During this hour of tomorrow's show, will bring you a
couple more clips of that, as well as Tucker Carlson
(30:35):
in Moscow interviewing Russia's foreign minister even though the United
States government wouldn't let him do that, told him were
and Tucker Carlson showing, look, we're in a hot war
with Russia right now, a hot war meaning live rounds
our men, their men. If that's happening, why is it
(30:57):
not being reported? I don't think Tucker Carlson has a
tendency over his career to simply make things up. Why
would the Russian foreign minister say that's happening if it's not.
And let me ask, here's a sad state of affairs.
Do you trust the Russian Foreign minister when he says
(31:18):
they're firing on us and we're firing on them. Or
do you trust the United States government who says no, no, no,
Ukraine wouldn't do that, that would never happen. Do you
trust Joe Biden who fell asleep with the Africans today?
Do you trust the crowd of people around him who
(31:39):
pardoned under Biden yesterday after swearing they wouldn't. The sad
reality is if I were to ask you who's more trustworthy.
Let's leave Tucker Carlson out of it, Russia's foreign minister
or the United States government. Well, that's a horrible state
of affairs we've reached, Isn't it? Process that for a moment,
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