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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Verie Show is on the air. So I want
to know you think Robert F.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Kennedy Junior is the best man to be leading public health.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, no, no answer the question.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Your supporting his decision, you're supporting my support his decision.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You just called him a humble, qualified minute. So you
think he's the best person to.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Read public eze.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I think that's the best person show.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm no happy. Look at me. I'm a big fat slab.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
I've done what sins in a sades phone pick. I've
not seen my William two years, which is long enough
to declare legally did I can't stop eating.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
Get called free trade, you can call it fifteen, you
can do whatever.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You want to call it.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
We're gonna make great deals for a country might be free,
might not be free.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I can tell you this. When Carrier and Ford and.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Episco leaving Chicago with a big plant, they're moving to Mexico.
I'm not eating oreos anywhere. You know that, but neither
is Chris. You're not eating oreos anyway. No more areos
for either of us. Chris, don't feel bad.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
David Sachs it's a six oh five general partner of
Craft Ventures in the All In podcast talking about the
President doing business, and he's talking about the tech dinner
that a lot of people criticize the president for having
people like Bill Gates and Zuckerberg there, and look, I
don't like those guys. It's the president's strategy. It's his strategy.
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I'm not here to applaud or criticize every move he makes.
There's a lot going on behind the scenes. I suspect
of his overall strategy. I will leave that to you
as to how you react to it. But he says
he did have a strategy.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Maybe half the people at the dinner have actually moved
to the center or to the right relative to where
they were, and I think Mark Pinkus has basically put
himself in that category. So there's the same people who
have been red pilling and moving over to our side.
And then I'd say, the other half of the people
in the room haven't necessari changed their politics, and there's
there to do business. They want to have a good
relationship with the government. But the same is true on
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the part of the president. I saw some conservative influencers saying,
how can the president me with this person or that person,
and he's been such an opponent in the past. I mean, look,
the president is doing business as well. He asks all
the attendees of the dinner, how much you investing in America?
You know what do you need to invest more? He
wants to see the infrastructure investment. Why because it benefits
all Americans, not just software companies. It benefits the construction industry,
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the trades, the electricians, the carpenters, the energy companies, fracking
and so on. So he's there representing the interests of
the country, and then many of those CEOs are representing
the interests of their companies. And there's a dialogue going on.
And it doesn't mean that everyone has to like suddenly
become a Republican or change their politics. But it's constructive
and this is all in furtherance of having the US
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economy grow better.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
Here's six oh seven David Sachs, big fan of President Trump,
General partner of Craft Ventures. This is the all in
podcast as to why he is bullish on Trump's economy.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
This is the outlook for twenty twenty six and beyond.
I mean, this would be the boalcase. Is number one
eight trillion dollars of new investment in the US economy
by private companies and by foreign governments. Number Two, the
AI boom.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You've got this massive build.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Out of data centers and I infrastructure underway, and that
includes energy and the manufacturing sectors are going to boom
alongside tech.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Number three.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
This has been the most affordable summer at the pump
since twenty twenty one, and low gas prices. Don't see
me going anywhere anytime soon, So lowest gas prices since
twenty twenty one. Number Four, you have these huge new
tax and centers for business expansion. You've got the accelerated
depreciation on equipment purchases on R and D. I think
those are going to kick in once the big beautiful
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Bill goes into effect. And then the last thing I
would say is that interest rate cuts are coming.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Say that now, in.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Lot to the latest job support, PAL should really cut
fifty basis points.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I doubt September.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
In September twenty five, yeah, I doubt he will is
probably be twenty five and then hopefully another twenty five.
But I think you can make the case that they
should be fifty now and then twenty five after that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
In regards of what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I think that most people think interstrates are coming and
that's going to juice the economy and further improve our
fiscal position. So look for twenty six. I think there's
a lot of bullish factors here.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Next is Trump, a polyhapatilla who calls Trump's tariffs a
master stroke of strategy. I play this only because not
just to puff up Trump, but because you're going to
hear the tariffs are awful by a lot of people.
And I'm not a tariff guy. I think in this case,
what he's trying to do is cracked back on a
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dog on a leash and say, uh, the trade got
out of hand. We allowed it to get out of hand,
and we want it to go back to being free trade.
And the only way to get that is we've got
to enact. The other side is engaged in arm robbery
of us. We got to get a gun and shoot back.
That's the only way to get to peace in this way.
So sometimes you got to fire a gun to have peace.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's a fact.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
I think that the terror of some balance are a
pretty smart master stroke of strategy. I think that we
did not understand what the impact of tariffs would be
except for hypothetical econ wonk talk. And so that hypothetical
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econ wonk talk basically said that tariffs were always going
to be a disaster. And if you ask them, well,
what is the actual practical data that you would point to, they.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Didn't have any.
Speaker 8 (05:38):
It was just more hypotheses. But what is the practical data?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Now?
Speaker 8 (05:42):
I think that the United States is going to book
probably close to half a trillion of incremental revenue. It's
actually forced a stabilization in the dollar, which I think
that people were always very concerned with what's going to
happen to the dollar complex. Everybody body always screams like
with a like their hair is on fire. But the
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dollar complex has stabilized, I think because of tariffs. So
there's been some real positives. And what Sacks says is right,
which is, whoever is president over the next you know, five, ten, fifteen,
twenty thirty years, there'll be some Democrats, they'll be some Republicans.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It's going to be very hard.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
To justify why you would undo this now because this
source of revenue is going to be an incredibly important one.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
An aluminum plant, or as my wife says, aluminium plant
has surged to nearly one hundred percent production in South
Carolina because of President Trump's tariffs. Now, I got to
tell you, I get very excited over economic news.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I really do. I really really.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Get excited over economic news, and I think the political
media spends too little time on it because it is
very very important.
Speaker 9 (06:56):
President Trump put a tariff into affect in June of
fifty percent not imported aluminum, and that has changed things.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Around here in a hurry.
Speaker 9 (07:04):
If this smelter just downside of Charleston, you can see
they are moving giant vats of molten aluminum. They're gonna
pour them into mold and then remove the impurities. Now,
this smelter was working at just a fraction of its
capacity a few weeks ago. Now it's almost at one
hundred percent. New jobs also, jobs would often pay six figures.
And when you walk around the factory floor and talk
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to the employees, you find a lot of former military
men who we're proud to be working now in this industry,
like Chris Murphy, who served two terms in Iraq.
Speaker 10 (07:35):
To do this job out here, you have to be
physically and mentally tough, and the military obviously, you know
helped with that, so I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 9 (07:46):
Now, critics of the tariffs say it's going to cause
inflation on a variety of goods, but supporters say it
was absolutely necessary. It's the domestic aluminum industry. If you
can't produce aluminum in your own country, it can be
execut You can say a national secure.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
The issue if you know that Americans keep and we
know that American aluminum production will be successful.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
As the President said, we don't need their aluminum, we
need our own aluminum. What a maroon.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Michael, forgive me if I'm repeating myself. I don't think
I've discussed this, but recently there was a whole Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Has Died.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Rumor from the left, and it upsets our side a
great deal because our side never forgets this is a game.
To people, they don't believe it, and they go. Our
side gets very upset and says, you didn't say that
when Biden was president. You didn't say It's as if
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this is sad, you know. I feel like it's the
battered wife who she's a good, decent, honorable person and
she keeps thinking that if she just tries harder, he'll
beat her less. No he's a monster. He's not beating
you because you're a bad person. He's beating you because
he's a bad person. And you can't fix him. Well,
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you can't fix the other side. So if you think,
if you struggle with the idea of how can they
say Trump's dead because he hasn't been seen in a
couple of days and they never asked a question about Biden,
you keep thinking that if you could just point out
that fact, they would go, oh, you know what, you're right,
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I won't say that.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Trump's dead anymore. That's wrong of me.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
That's never going to happen because they never said Trump
was dead because they wondered if he was dead. They
hoped for it. Tim Waltz was clear about that. But
in fact, let's play that. This is clip number four ten.
Tim wats basically too clever by half with his little
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cuts comment that you know he hopes Trump dies.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You get up in the morning and you doom scroll
through things. And although I will say this, the last
few days.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
You woke up thinking there might be news, just saying
just saying there will be news sometimes just so you
know there will be news. This is a president that
got shot in the head. This is a president. In fact,
that goofball that was at mar A Lago with a
gun through the through the fence. If they hadn't shot
over there at him, he would have shot the president
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between the fifth and sixth holes. He was playing fifth
and sixth hole. He was playing golf with Steve Whitcoff.
But they need to stop this hole. You know, we
hope the president is killed, calling for his murder. Remember
Kathy Griffin did the head hanging off with the blood dripping.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
They need to stop.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
But I will tell you this, if that violence turns
around on them, won't you won't see me feeling sorry
for him.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You will not. That's all I'm gonna say about that.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
You need to remember that whatever they say is a lie,
and you don't need to get upset about it because
they're not saying it because they believe it. They're saying
it because they want to distract. They don't like things going. Well,
you were back when you were in school, and let's
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say you started dating Julie and there was another guy
in your school named Trevor, and Trevor liked Julie, and
Trevor didn't like that you and Julie were going to homecoming.
So Trevor started telling people that you were talking bad
about Julie behind her back and that maybe you had
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kissed Stacy. And the rumor got around and you're going, man,
I didn't I didn't kiss Stacy. But the rumor, the
more times it's told, the more it picks up steam,
And before you know it, Julie is angry at you.
Trevor's over there thinking, if i'd get him out of
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the way, I can step in on Julie.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Trevor. Never thought you cheated on Julie. Trevor. We didn't
have Trevors at my school. That was kind of a
rich people named.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
But Trevor is throwing that in there to gunk up
the works between you and Julie. Well, the Democrats are
making up lies to gunk up the works in this
country because chaos and disorder are their recipe for power.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
The more messed up and.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Mucked up things are in this country, the more they
are desperately needed. With the solution for reform to fix it,
you shatter capitalism and you replace it in your image
with the cult of socialism.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Here is.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
President Trump talking about the viral media speculation. Well, Peter
Doocey's going to ask him the question. But here's President
Trump talking about it.
Speaker 11 (13:06):
Completely different, but out of maybe viral social media trend
over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
How did you find out.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Over the weekend that you were dead?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Do you see that people didn't see it for a
couple of days.
Speaker 11 (13:18):
One point three million user engagements as of Saturday morning
about your word to minds?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Really, you know, I have heard it's sort of crazy.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
But last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful,
they went very well, like this is going very well,
and then I didn't do any for two days, and
they said there must be something wrong with him.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Biden wouldn't do him for months.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
You wouldn't see him, and nobody ever said there was
ever anything wrong with him, and we know he wasn't
in the.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Greatest of shape. No, I heard that. I get reports,
And here is one example.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
Jim Pisaki, as President Trump would say, a very nasty,
nasty woman is woman who was who worked for Obama
and Biden, the halo back girl, the circle back girl.
This is a really really dark underbelly of American politics
right there here. This is a person who believes nothing
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of what she says, she just wants her side and
her personally to attain power, and she let her own
mother die in order to do that. These are soulless, heartless,
evil people. I believe that of Jenisaki as much or
more than any single Democrat. So when she says something
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like this, she doesn't mean it, she doesn't believe it
to be true. She is purely and simply trying to
cause chaos, disorder, trying to take Trump off this game,
trying to cause him to have to respond to whether
he's dead or not, so that he can't shoot the
cartel boats in the National Guardian to stop crime and
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solve all the other problems. Because she doesn't want the
problem solved, she wants him distract it, and so that's
why she makes statements like this.
Speaker 12 (15:11):
Now, just to be clear, we went and there's a
very quick span there. We went from Trump's singing he
hadn't heard about the rumors of his death through Trump's
thing he did hear about them from reports. So then
back to Trump's saying he hadn't heard anything about any
of it, in the span of approximately sixty.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Seconds in the Oval Office today. I really can't make
this stuff up. Sometimes.
Speaker 13 (15:31):
And look, we may never know why Donald Trump's suddenly
spent a week hiding entirely from the American public, but
you don't actually need baseless online conspiracies to explain why
he might not want to show his face.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
And right now we're going to add a little bit
about these or houses I know all about.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Ramon wants to know what around the world is.
Speaker 14 (15:50):
Whistling bungholes, spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, honkey riders, hooskerdoes, Whosker
don'ts nips and dazers, whether without the scooter.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Stick or one single whisling kitty.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Jason, let's talk.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
About immigration for a moment, shall we? First of all,
everything we most need to talk about, folks are frightened
to talk about. And I'm gonna tall something that's not
an accident, that's not an accident. Imagine, for instance, let
me give you an analogy. Let's say a guy is
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abusing his wife. Happens way more than he should. He
is abusing his wife, and somehow he manages to make
it the case that if she ever mentions his abuse,
she's a really bad person. So she's scared to ever
bring it up. And he convinces her of that, and
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whoever she talks to about it tells her she's a
bad person for speaking of his abuse.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Right.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Or Let's say that the CEO of the company is
stealing the company blind and the employees aren't getting their
paychecks and things are getting bad, and the CEO manages
to make it such.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's not an easy thing to do.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
It takes a lot of work, but he manages to
make it such that if you are the whistleblower, you
are a very bad person and you should be judged
and canceled because you are a dark soul. You're basically hitler.
You're basically hitler, and so you don't do it. So
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we need to talk about some tough subjects, and too
many people are afraid to do that, even in public life.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'd like to.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Think you see our show as a place we do
that not for the sake of intentionally provoking. That's not
the case. I do realize that some of what I
say is provocative. There are black listeners who will email
me and say, you know, Mike, one of the things
that upsets me is when people call you a racist,
You're not a racist, And I say, well, thank you,
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But you don't get to decide if I'm a racist.
And they say, I know, but it makes me mad
when they say that, and I say, listen, they don't
call me a racist because they think I am one.
They call me a racist because that's how you silence somebody. See,
that's how you do that. So let's talk about immigration,
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illegal immigration. Let's talk about replacement theory. Let's talk about
the changing of nations in their population by all sorts
of means until you reach the point that it can't
be changed back. Let's talk about Christendom, the nations that
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were predominantly Christian nations, and what is happening to those people.
Increase violence, increase in rape, increasing the number of people
from migrant communities who are now self selecting their own
people in positions. And the problem is the guilt ridden
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white liberal of Europe is afraid to stop it. They
are empowering it, and it will be their own undoing.
And we're seeing that already. Here is Elon Musk talking
about just that the.
Speaker 11 (19:26):
Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction
of any country that allows unfettered mass immigration. The country
will simply cease to exist. At the end of the day,
it is a number's game, a number situation. If there
are eight billion people in the world, and let's say
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you're a country of you know, fifty million, sixty million,
or you know, for a medium sized country, but even
for a country like the United States, which is three
hundred and fifty million, given that there are eight billion
people in the world, it only takes a few percent
of the rest of the world to move to the
country to where it is no longer that country. A
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country is not its geography. A country is its people.
Next time, some fundamental concept that is really obvious.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Can I speak now? Elon next?
Speaker 7 (20:28):
I'm going to play an audio clip is a little longer,
it's almost four minutes long. You don't have to agree
with it, but we should talk openly. We shouldn't be
afraid to discuss things. This is Friar Brendan Kilcoin who
says if it was up to him, he would only
permit Christian immigration into Europe and Ireland.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
You turn up peer and then it's manished, you're looked after,
instead of being promptly sent back where you came from
and tool to apply by illegal to come into the country.
Could we not be making a better job of this.
I should we not be firmer in making sure that
people who are undesirable or shouldn't be here or sent back.
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It is causing a awful lot of unrest. It's causing
a awful lot of trouble across Europe. Germany has already
admitted or German politicians, some very distinguished German politicians, have
already admitted that they've made very serious mistakes in this area.
Yet Ireland seems to trip th on no of anti immigration.
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I am in favor of what I would openly call
a discriminatory immigration, and I mean discrimination in a positive
constructive sense. Now, if it were up to me, I
would only permit Christian immigration into Europe because.
Speaker 15 (21:57):
Europe's hold back ground and history has been shaped by Christianity. Yeah,
I would only permit Christian immigration into Ireland.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I think that that would I think you can justify
that on any number of grounds, only Christian immigration. But
that's not being done. People from a certain socioeconomic background
have noticed that they're being shafted, and even if they're not,
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they seem to be very clear that they are. That's
a problem, that is a political problem, as well as
everything else. So I think the government should be a
lot more worried about this than they are. And they're
not going to solve it by staying awake at night
because there might be a far right boogeyman hiding under
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the bed. But what's very clear is that an awful
lot of people, very many of them from the working class,
seem to feel enormously threatened, and most of those seem
to be perfectly decent people. Now you must ask why
perfectly decent, affable, amiable people are suddenly frightened and worried
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because they're being storred up by the far right.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
That's too simplistic, that's far too simplastic.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's because they can see demonstrable evidence.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Of a problem.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
The country's being crammed, and furthermore, it's being crammed with
people who simply do not have any sympathy with the
country or its culture. Now, I would argue only Christians,
and many of you probably won't agree with me. I
don't know, but whatever you argue that people coming in
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should at least some be able to dovetail intellectually, culturally,
emotionally with the society that exists here. Some minimal extent,
and that minimum is substantial. Now we have a problem here, okay,
and all these parades, with all these tricolors, which are
regarded with so much contempt by the authorities, you'd better
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not get over yourselves. You better start paying close attention
to this. I'll tell you all that's wanting in this situation,
and it hasn't happened yet, is the emergence of a
charismatic leader. And if that happens, I would strongly advise
the mainstream political parties, the so called legacy parties, to
grip both sides of the.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Armchair and pour themselves resticulously.
Speaker 11 (24:42):
I'm not sure what your question was with some Michael.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Berrish, I lost the plot somewhere, you did.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Two of my great influences are are not from the
world of politics per se. They are from the warl
world of economics. If we had more folks who had
studied economics making policy in this country, we'd been a
lot better position. It's Milton Friedman and his great Milton Friedman.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Well, I guess you could say.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
His great protege, Thomas soul tells the story of being
a student at the esteemed very well respected Chicago School
of Economics, and he talks about.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That's not the Chicago School. It's the Chicago School.
Speaker 16 (25:42):
As it came to be known as the University of Chicago.
It didn't sound right when it came off my head.
Milken came off my lips. Milton Friedman taught there for
many years, from mid forties, right after World War Two
to the mid seventies, thirty years, I believe, thirty something years.
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And he had a student named Thomas Sol. And Thomas
Sol ends up parenting a lot of the great theories of.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Milton Friedman. And so I just assumed that he just
directly opened his mind and opened Thomas Ole's mind and
leaned over and dumped it down in there. But that's
not how it worked at all. Thomas Ol tells the
story in his own writings that he studied under Milton Friedman,
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but he did not leave a classical economist. In fact,
he left still quite the liberal. And he went to
I believe it was the Department of Labor, it was,
and they were working on minimum wage, and he was
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an analyst, and so they're preaching minimum wage, minimum wage,
we've got to increase the minimum wage, and his research
was showing him that when you increased the minimum wage,
you were actually hurting the workers, because what employers started
doing was finding ways to do away with jobs. Anything
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that could be mechanized should and any job that wasn't
absolutely necessary, cut it because it's costing us more money.
And so his data revealed very clearly raising the minimum
wage hurt the worker. So he brings it to his
boss and the boss says, oh, no, no, no, we
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put that away.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Do not.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
We don't want that.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
And he said, but if we continue to push for
the increase of the minimum wage, which he was a
big believer in before doing the research, we're going to.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Hurt the American worker. And his boss said, so this
is our campaign slogan.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
This is what we're doing. If we don't help the worker,
that's okay. This is what we're committed to as a policy.
And that's when Soul started really looking at the world
differently and came to be one of the great thinkers, writers,
economists in American history. I mean, it's really incredible, and
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he happens to be black. If we so desperately need
to extol the virtues of some black people to show
other black people that Hey, you can do this. We
ought to be talking about Clarence Thomas and Thomas Soul.
So let's start with Thomas Soul, going back to twenty eighteen,
a little over a year into the Trump presidency that
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started in twenty seventeen. Of course, he's elected in sixteen,
but starts in twenty seventeen, a little over a year
after his presidency has begun. This is Thomas Sole talking
about why he changed his mind about Donald Trump.
Speaker 17 (28:59):
This is the mandatory subject Donald Trump. During the presidential campaign,
you wrote a column. This is when you still had
your column that appeared under the headline choose Trump, He'd
be easier to impeach, and you wrote that voters faced
a choice between I'm quoting you two out of control people,
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one of whom is going to be president. And you said,
since Hillary Clinton would be the first woman chief executive,
she'd be very difficult to impeach.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
But Trump would be easier to kick out. So vote
for Trump.
Speaker 17 (29:32):
Now that he's been in office for a year.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
What do you make of him?
Speaker 14 (29:35):
Well, it's interesting, Oh gosh, you know, let me say that.
Just recently, Walter Williams sent me a video of Donald
Trump in his mid thirties being interviewed, and so I've
had to back off on one of the things I've said,
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which is that Trump is someone who as simply never
grown up. He was very grown up in his mid
thirties speaking of retrogression. And it's scary because how many
people are more mature in their mid thirties than they
are at age seventy? All right, and given the trend line,
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how optimistic should we be about his becoming more grown
up as time goes on?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
All right? All right?
Speaker 14 (30:27):
In terms of the people he put surrounding himself with,
I think on the whole they are are better bunch
than either of the last two presidents had. So he
has very good people. I think that Jim mattis at
sech defense. Yeah, but other people are around him, and
their question is is he going to listen to them?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
All right?
Speaker 17 (30:48):
Let me play you a brief excerpt of Donald Trump himself.
This is from the State of the Union address this
past January.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
This will be my first time.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
To get something I'm very proud of.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
African American unemployment stands at the lowest rate ever recorded.
Speaker 17 (31:12):
Okay, oh my, he produces maybe the statistic isn't quite right.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
It is.
Speaker 17 (31:22):
And there you see a shot you see Republicans standing
and applauding, and there you see a shot of Democrats
who are sitting on their hands, including many members of
the Black Caucus in Congress.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
What do you make of that.
Speaker 14 (31:34):
That, as with so many other groups around the world,
the leaders of groups of the lagging are often themselves.
That one of the biggest handicaps of those groups because
they have to depict the problems in ways it will
allow them to play the role of rescuers, and so
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there'll be no talk about how you can do this
or that for yourself. They'll be talking about what we
can get them to deliver for you. And usually that's
a lot of words and things that have bad effects.
And that's true not only with blocks in the United States.
It's true of people in the lower income people in England.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
And here is Thomas Soul talking about a very important
issue that the academic world is full of people who
don't think America is a great country. And when you
understand that these people hate America, it begins to make
a lot more sense.
Speaker 14 (32:29):
But I think what you see in the most clearly.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I think in the academic world.
Speaker 14 (32:34):
Are people who don't think that this country is a
great country. One example of a colleague of mine who
teaches at Harvard after nine to eleven put an American
flag on his car, and his colleague said, what is
that for.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
When I visited Berkeley.
Speaker 14 (32:52):
In the aftermath of nine to eleven, mine, then there were,
you know, flags everywhere. I did not see one flag
on at Berkeley campus, on any of those expensive houses,
you know. When as I was coming back from Berkeley,
the first American flag I saw was in a low
income black.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Neighborhood in Elkland.
Speaker 14 (33:12):
Uh. These are people who consider themselves citizens of the
world and that the rest of us are so lucky
to have the bear to change Americas.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Nice night for doing the thank you, and good night.
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Verie Show is on the air. So I want
to know you think Robert F.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Kennedy Junior is the best man to be leading public health.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, no, no answer the question.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Your supporting his decision, you're supporting my support his decision.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You just called him a humble, qualified minute. So you
think he's the best person to.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Read public eze.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I think that's the best person show.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm no happy. Look at me. I'm a big fat slab.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
I've done what sins in a sades phone pick. I've
not seen my William two years, which is long enough
to declare legally did I can't stop eating.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
Get called free trade, you can call it fifteen, you
can do whatever.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You want to call it.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
We're gonna make great deals for a country might be free,
might not be free.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I can tell you this. When Carrier and Ford and.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Episco leaving Chicago with a big plant, they're moving to Mexico.
I'm not eating oreos anywhere. You know that, but neither
is Chris. You're not eating oreos anyway. No more areos
for either of us. Chris, don't feel bad.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
David Sachs it's a six oh five general partner of
Craft Ventures in the All In podcast talking about the
President doing business, and he's talking about the tech dinner
that a lot of people criticize the president for having
people like Bill Gates and Zuckerberg there, and look, I
don't like those guys. It's the president's strategy. It's his strategy.
(01:40):
I'm not here to applaud or criticize every move he makes.
There's a lot going on behind the scenes. I suspect
of his overall strategy. I will leave that to you
as to how you react to it. But he says
he did have a strategy.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Maybe half the people at the dinner have actually moved
to the center or to the right relative to where
they were, and I think Mark Pinkus has basically put
himself in that category. So there's the same people who
have been red pilling and moving over to our side.
And then I'd say, the other half of the people
in the room haven't necessari changed their politics, and there's
there to do business. They want to have a good
relationship with the government. But the same is true on
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the part of the president. I saw some conservative influencers saying,
how can the president me with this person or that person,
and he's been such an opponent in the past. I mean, look,
the president is doing business as well. He asks all
the attendees of the dinner, how much you investing in America?
You know what do you need to invest more? He
wants to see the infrastructure investment. Why because it benefits
all Americans, not just software companies. It benefits the construction industry,
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the trades, the electricians, the carpenters, the energy companies, fracking
and so on. So he's there representing the interests of
the country, and then many of those CEOs are representing
the interests of their companies. And there's a dialogue going on.
And it doesn't mean that everyone has to like suddenly
become a Republican or change their politics. But it's constructive
and this is all in furtherance of having the US
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economy grow better.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
Here's six oh seven David Sachs, big fan of President Trump,
General partner of Craft Ventures. This is the all in
podcast as to why he is bullish on Trump's economy.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
This is the outlook for twenty twenty six and beyond.
I mean, this would be the boalcase. Is number one
eight trillion dollars of new investment in the US economy
by private companies and by foreign governments. Number Two, the
AI boom.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You've got this massive build.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Out of data centers and I infrastructure underway, and that
includes energy and the manufacturing sectors are going to boom
alongside tech.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Number three.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
This has been the most affordable summer at the pump
since twenty twenty one, and low gas prices. Don't see
me going anywhere anytime soon, So lowest gas prices since
twenty twenty one. Number Four, you have these huge new
tax and centers for business expansion. You've got the accelerated
depreciation on equipment purchases on R and D. I think
those are going to kick in once the big beautiful
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Bill goes into effect. And then the last thing I
would say is that interest rate cuts are coming.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Say that now, in.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Lot to the latest job support, PAL should really cut
fifty basis points.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I doubt September.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
In September twenty five, yeah, I doubt he will is
probably be twenty five and then hopefully another twenty five.
But I think you can make the case that they
should be fifty now and then twenty five after that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
In regards of what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I think that most people think interstrates are coming and
that's going to juice the economy and further improve our
fiscal position. So look for twenty six. I think there's
a lot of bullish factors here.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Next is Trump, a polyhapatilla who calls Trump's tariffs a
master stroke of strategy. I play this only because not
just to puff up Trump, but because you're going to
hear the tariffs are awful by a lot of people.
And I'm not a tariff guy. I think in this case,
what he's trying to do is cracked back on a
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dog on a leash and say, uh, the trade got
out of hand. We allowed it to get out of hand,
and we want it to go back to being free trade.
And the only way to get that is we've got
to enact. The other side is engaged in arm robbery
of us. We got to get a gun and shoot back.
That's the only way to get to peace in this way.
So sometimes you got to fire a gun to have peace.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's a fact.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
I think that the terror of some balance are a
pretty smart master stroke of strategy. I think that we
did not understand what the impact of tariffs would be
except for hypothetical econ wonk talk. And so that hypothetical
(05:29):
econ wonk talk basically said that tariffs were always going
to be a disaster. And if you ask them, well,
what is the actual practical data that you would point to, they.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Didn't have any.
Speaker 8 (05:38):
It was just more hypotheses. But what is the practical data?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Now?
Speaker 8 (05:42):
I think that the United States is going to book
probably close to half a trillion of incremental revenue. It's
actually forced a stabilization in the dollar, which I think
that people were always very concerned with what's going to
happen to the dollar complex. Everybody body always screams like
with a like their hair is on fire. But the
(06:05):
dollar complex has stabilized, I think because of tariffs. So
there's been some real positives. And what Sacks says is right,
which is, whoever is president over the next you know, five, ten, fifteen,
twenty thirty years, there'll be some Democrats, they'll be some Republicans.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It's going to be very hard.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
To justify why you would undo this now because this
source of revenue is going to be an incredibly important one.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
An aluminum plant, or as my wife says, aluminium plant
has surged to nearly one hundred percent production in South
Carolina because of President Trump's tariffs. Now, I got to
tell you, I get very excited over economic news.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I really do. I really really.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Get excited over economic news, and I think the political
media spends too little time on it because it is
very very important.
Speaker 9 (06:56):
President Trump put a tariff into affect in June of
fifty percent not imported aluminum, and that has changed things.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Around here in a hurry.
Speaker 9 (07:04):
If this smelter just downside of Charleston, you can see
they are moving giant vats of molten aluminum. They're gonna
pour them into mold and then remove the impurities. Now,
this smelter was working at just a fraction of its
capacity a few weeks ago. Now it's almost at one
hundred percent. New jobs also, jobs would often pay six figures.
And when you walk around the factory floor and talk
(07:25):
to the employees, you find a lot of former military
men who we're proud to be working now in this industry,
like Chris Murphy, who served two terms in Iraq.
Speaker 10 (07:35):
To do this job out here, you have to be
physically and mentally tough, and the military obviously, you know
helped with that, so I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 9 (07:46):
Now, critics of the tariffs say it's going to cause
inflation on a variety of goods, but supporters say it
was absolutely necessary. It's the domestic aluminum industry. If you
can't produce aluminum in your own country, it can be
execut You can say a national secure.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
The issue if you know that Americans keep and we
know that American aluminum production will be successful.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
As the President said, we don't need their aluminum, we
need our own aluminum. What a maroon.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Michael, forgive me if I'm repeating myself. I don't think
I've discussed this, but recently there was a whole Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Has Died.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Rumor from the left, and it upsets our side a
great deal because our side never forgets this is a game.
To people, they don't believe it, and they go. Our
side gets very upset and says, you didn't say that
when Biden was president. You didn't say It's as if
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this is sad, you know. I feel like it's the
battered wife who she's a good, decent, honorable person and
she keeps thinking that if she just tries harder, he'll
beat her less. No he's a monster. He's not beating
you because you're a bad person. He's beating you because
he's a bad person. And you can't fix him. Well,
(09:10):
you can't fix the other side. So if you think,
if you struggle with the idea of how can they
say Trump's dead because he hasn't been seen in a
couple of days and they never asked a question about Biden,
you keep thinking that if you could just point out
that fact, they would go, oh, you know what, you're right,
(09:31):
I won't say that.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Trump's dead anymore. That's wrong of me.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
That's never going to happen because they never said Trump
was dead because they wondered if he was dead. They
hoped for it. Tim Waltz was clear about that. But
in fact, let's play that. This is clip number four ten.
Tim wats basically too clever by half with his little
(09:57):
cuts comment that you know he hopes Trump dies.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You get up in the morning and you doom scroll
through things. And although I will say this, the last
few days.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
You woke up thinking there might be news, just saying
just saying there will be news sometimes just so you
know there will be news. This is a president that
got shot in the head. This is a president. In fact,
that goofball that was at mar A Lago with a
gun through the through the fence. If they hadn't shot
over there at him, he would have shot the president
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between the fifth and sixth holes. He was playing fifth
and sixth hole. He was playing golf with Steve Whitcoff.
But they need to stop this hole. You know, we
hope the president is killed, calling for his murder. Remember
Kathy Griffin did the head hanging off with the blood dripping.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
They need to stop.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
But I will tell you this, if that violence turns
around on them, won't you won't see me feeling sorry
for him.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You will not. That's all I'm gonna say about that.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
You need to remember that whatever they say is a lie,
and you don't need to get upset about it because
they're not saying it because they believe it. They're saying
it because they want to distract. They don't like things going. Well,
you were back when you were in school, and let's
(11:21):
say you started dating Julie and there was another guy
in your school named Trevor, and Trevor liked Julie, and
Trevor didn't like that you and Julie were going to homecoming.
So Trevor started telling people that you were talking bad
about Julie behind her back and that maybe you had
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kissed Stacy. And the rumor got around and you're going, man,
I didn't I didn't kiss Stacy. But the rumor, the
more times it's told, the more it picks up steam,
And before you know it, Julie is angry at you.
Trevor's over there thinking, if i'd get him out of
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the way, I can step in on Julie.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Trevor. Never thought you cheated on Julie. Trevor. We didn't
have Trevors at my school. That was kind of a
rich people named.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
But Trevor is throwing that in there to gunk up
the works between you and Julie. Well, the Democrats are
making up lies to gunk up the works in this
country because chaos and disorder are their recipe for power.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
The more messed up and.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Mucked up things are in this country, the more they
are desperately needed. With the solution for reform to fix it,
you shatter capitalism and you replace it in your image
with the cult of socialism.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Here is.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
President Trump talking about the viral media speculation. Well, Peter
Doocey's going to ask him the question. But here's President
Trump talking about it.
Speaker 11 (13:06):
Completely different, but out of maybe viral social media trend
over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
How did you find out.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Over the weekend that you were dead?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Do you see that people didn't see it for a
couple of days.
Speaker 11 (13:18):
One point three million user engagements as of Saturday morning
about your word to minds?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Really, you know, I have heard it's sort of crazy.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
But last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful,
they went very well, like this is going very well,
and then I didn't do any for two days, and
they said there must be something wrong with him.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Biden wouldn't do him for months.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
You wouldn't see him, and nobody ever said there was
ever anything wrong with him, and we know he wasn't
in the.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Greatest of shape. No, I heard that. I get reports,
And here is one example.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
Jim Pisaki, as President Trump would say, a very nasty,
nasty woman is woman who was who worked for Obama
and Biden, the halo back girl, the circle back girl.
This is a really really dark underbelly of American politics
right there here. This is a person who believes nothing
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of what she says, she just wants her side and
her personally to attain power, and she let her own
mother die in order to do that. These are soulless, heartless,
evil people. I believe that of Jenisaki as much or
more than any single Democrat. So when she says something
(14:38):
like this, she doesn't mean it, she doesn't believe it
to be true. She is purely and simply trying to
cause chaos, disorder, trying to take Trump off this game,
trying to cause him to have to respond to whether
he's dead or not, so that he can't shoot the
cartel boats in the National Guardian to stop crime and
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solve all the other problems. Because she doesn't want the
problem solved, she wants him distract it, and so that's
why she makes statements like this.
Speaker 12 (15:11):
Now, just to be clear, we went and there's a
very quick span there. We went from Trump's singing he
hadn't heard about the rumors of his death through Trump's
thing he did hear about them from reports. So then
back to Trump's saying he hadn't heard anything about any
of it, in the span of approximately sixty.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Seconds in the Oval Office today. I really can't make
this stuff up. Sometimes.
Speaker 13 (15:31):
And look, we may never know why Donald Trump's suddenly
spent a week hiding entirely from the American public, but
you don't actually need baseless online conspiracies to explain why
he might not want to show his face.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
And right now we're going to add a little bit
about these or houses I know all about.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Ramon wants to know what around the world is.
Speaker 14 (15:50):
Whistling bungholes, spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, honkey riders, hooskerdoes, Whosker
don'ts nips and dazers, whether without the scooter.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Stick or one single whisling kitty.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Jason, let's talk.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
About immigration for a moment, shall we? First of all,
everything we most need to talk about, folks are frightened
to talk about. And I'm gonna tall something that's not
an accident, that's not an accident. Imagine, for instance, let
me give you an analogy. Let's say a guy is
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abusing his wife. Happens way more than he should. He
is abusing his wife, and somehow he manages to make
it the case that if she ever mentions his abuse,
she's a really bad person. So she's scared to ever
bring it up. And he convinces her of that, and
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whoever she talks to about it tells her she's a
bad person for speaking of his abuse.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Right.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Or Let's say that the CEO of the company is
stealing the company blind and the employees aren't getting their
paychecks and things are getting bad, and the CEO manages
to make it such.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's not an easy thing to do.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
It takes a lot of work, but he manages to
make it such that if you are the whistleblower, you
are a very bad person and you should be judged
and canceled because you are a dark soul. You're basically hitler.
You're basically hitler, and so you don't do it. So
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we need to talk about some tough subjects, and too
many people are afraid to do that, even in public life.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'd like to.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Think you see our show as a place we do
that not for the sake of intentionally provoking. That's not
the case. I do realize that some of what I
say is provocative. There are black listeners who will email
me and say, you know, Mike, one of the things
that upsets me is when people call you a racist,
You're not a racist, And I say, well, thank you,
(18:08):
But you don't get to decide if I'm a racist.
And they say, I know, but it makes me mad
when they say that, and I say, listen, they don't
call me a racist because they think I am one.
They call me a racist because that's how you silence somebody. See,
that's how you do that. So let's talk about immigration,
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illegal immigration. Let's talk about replacement theory. Let's talk about
the changing of nations in their population by all sorts
of means until you reach the point that it can't
be changed back. Let's talk about Christendom, the nations that
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were predominantly Christian nations, and what is happening to those people.
Increase violence, increase in rape, increasing the number of people
from migrant communities who are now self selecting their own
people in positions. And the problem is the guilt ridden
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white liberal of Europe is afraid to stop it. They
are empowering it, and it will be their own undoing.
And we're seeing that already. Here is Elon Musk talking
about just that the.
Speaker 11 (19:26):
Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction
of any country that allows unfettered mass immigration. The country
will simply cease to exist. At the end of the day,
it is a number's game, a number situation. If there
are eight billion people in the world, and let's say
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you're a country of you know, fifty million, sixty million,
or you know, for a medium sized country, but even
for a country like the United States, which is three
hundred and fifty million, given that there are eight billion
people in the world, it only takes a few percent
of the rest of the world to move to the
country to where it is no longer that country. A
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country is not its geography. A country is its people.
Next time, some fundamental concept that is really obvious.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Can I speak now? Elon next?
Speaker 7 (20:28):
I'm going to play an audio clip is a little longer,
it's almost four minutes long. You don't have to agree
with it, but we should talk openly. We shouldn't be
afraid to discuss things. This is Friar Brendan Kilcoin who
says if it was up to him, he would only
permit Christian immigration into Europe and Ireland.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
You turn up peer and then it's manished, you're looked after,
instead of being promptly sent back where you came from
and tool to apply by illegal to come into the country.
Could we not be making a better job of this.
I should we not be firmer in making sure that
people who are undesirable or shouldn't be here or sent back.
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It is causing a awful lot of unrest. It's causing
a awful lot of trouble across Europe. Germany has already
admitted or German politicians, some very distinguished German politicians, have
already admitted that they've made very serious mistakes in this area.
Yet Ireland seems to trip th on no of anti immigration.
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I am in favor of what I would openly call
a discriminatory immigration, and I mean discrimination in a positive
constructive sense. Now, if it were up to me, I
would only permit Christian immigration into Europe because.
Speaker 15 (21:57):
Europe's hold back ground and history has been shaped by Christianity. Yeah,
I would only permit Christian immigration into Ireland.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I think that that would I think you can justify
that on any number of grounds, only Christian immigration. But
that's not being done. People from a certain socioeconomic background
have noticed that they're being shafted, and even if they're not,
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they seem to be very clear that they are. That's
a problem, that is a political problem, as well as
everything else. So I think the government should be a
lot more worried about this than they are. And they're
not going to solve it by staying awake at night
because there might be a far right boogeyman hiding under
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the bed. But what's very clear is that an awful
lot of people, very many of them from the working class,
seem to feel enormously threatened, and most of those seem
to be perfectly decent people. Now you must ask why
perfectly decent, affable, amiable people are suddenly frightened and worried
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because they're being storred up by the far right.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
That's too simplistic, that's far too simplastic.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's because they can see demonstrable evidence.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Of a problem.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
The country's being crammed, and furthermore, it's being crammed with
people who simply do not have any sympathy with the
country or its culture. Now, I would argue only Christians,
and many of you probably won't agree with me. I
don't know, but whatever you argue that people coming in
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should at least some be able to dovetail intellectually, culturally,
emotionally with the society that exists here. Some minimal extent,
and that minimum is substantial. Now we have a problem here, okay,
and all these parades, with all these tricolors, which are
regarded with so much contempt by the authorities, you'd better
(24:18):
not get over yourselves. You better start paying close attention
to this. I'll tell you all that's wanting in this situation,
and it hasn't happened yet, is the emergence of a
charismatic leader. And if that happens, I would strongly advise
the mainstream political parties, the so called legacy parties, to
grip both sides of the.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Armchair and pour themselves resticulously.
Speaker 11 (24:42):
I'm not sure what your question was with some Michael.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Berrish, I lost the plot somewhere, you did.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Two of my great influences are are not from the
world of politics per se. They are from the warl
world of economics. If we had more folks who had
studied economics making policy in this country, we'd been a
lot better position. It's Milton Friedman and his great Milton Friedman.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Well, I guess you could say.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
His great protege, Thomas soul tells the story of being
a student at the esteemed very well respected Chicago School
of Economics, and he talks about.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That's not the Chicago School. It's the Chicago School.
Speaker 16 (25:42):
As it came to be known as the University of Chicago.
It didn't sound right when it came off my head.
Milken came off my lips. Milton Friedman taught there for
many years, from mid forties, right after World War Two
to the mid seventies, thirty years, I believe, thirty something years.
(26:05):
And he had a student named Thomas Sol. And Thomas
Sol ends up parenting a lot of the great theories of.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Milton Friedman. And so I just assumed that he just
directly opened his mind and opened Thomas Ole's mind and
leaned over and dumped it down in there. But that's
not how it worked at all. Thomas Ol tells the
story in his own writings that he studied under Milton Friedman,
(26:38):
but he did not leave a classical economist. In fact,
he left still quite the liberal. And he went to
I believe it was the Department of Labor, it was,
and they were working on minimum wage, and he was
(26:58):
an analyst, and so they're preaching minimum wage, minimum wage,
we've got to increase the minimum wage, and his research
was showing him that when you increased the minimum wage,
you were actually hurting the workers, because what employers started
doing was finding ways to do away with jobs. Anything
(27:20):
that could be mechanized should and any job that wasn't
absolutely necessary, cut it because it's costing us more money.
And so his data revealed very clearly raising the minimum
wage hurt the worker. So he brings it to his
boss and the boss says, oh, no, no, no, we
(27:43):
put that away.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Do not.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
We don't want that.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
And he said, but if we continue to push for
the increase of the minimum wage, which he was a
big believer in before doing the research, we're going to.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Hurt the American worker. And his boss said, so this
is our campaign slogan.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
This is what we're doing. If we don't help the worker,
that's okay. This is what we're committed to as a policy.
And that's when Soul started really looking at the world
differently and came to be one of the great thinkers, writers,
economists in American history. I mean, it's really incredible, and
(28:23):
he happens to be black. If we so desperately need
to extol the virtues of some black people to show
other black people that Hey, you can do this. We
ought to be talking about Clarence Thomas and Thomas Soul.
So let's start with Thomas Soul, going back to twenty eighteen,
a little over a year into the Trump presidency that
(28:45):
started in twenty seventeen. Of course, he's elected in sixteen,
but starts in twenty seventeen, a little over a year
after his presidency has begun. This is Thomas Sole talking
about why he changed his mind about Donald Trump.
Speaker 17 (28:59):
This is the mandatory subject Donald Trump. During the presidential campaign,
you wrote a column. This is when you still had
your column that appeared under the headline choose Trump, He'd
be easier to impeach, and you wrote that voters faced
a choice between I'm quoting you two out of control people,
(29:20):
one of whom is going to be president. And you said,
since Hillary Clinton would be the first woman chief executive,
she'd be very difficult to impeach.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
But Trump would be easier to kick out. So vote
for Trump.
Speaker 17 (29:32):
Now that he's been in office for a year.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
What do you make of him?
Speaker 14 (29:35):
Well, it's interesting, Oh gosh, you know, let me say that.
Just recently, Walter Williams sent me a video of Donald
Trump in his mid thirties being interviewed, and so I've
had to back off on one of the things I've said,
(29:57):
which is that Trump is someone who as simply never
grown up. He was very grown up in his mid
thirties speaking of retrogression. And it's scary because how many
people are more mature in their mid thirties than they
are at age seventy? All right, and given the trend line,
(30:20):
how optimistic should we be about his becoming more grown
up as time goes on?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
All right? All right?
Speaker 14 (30:27):
In terms of the people he put surrounding himself with,
I think on the whole they are are better bunch
than either of the last two presidents had. So he
has very good people. I think that Jim mattis at
sech defense. Yeah, but other people are around him, and
their question is is he going to listen to them?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
All right?
Speaker 17 (30:48):
Let me play you a brief excerpt of Donald Trump himself.
This is from the State of the Union address this
past January.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
This will be my first time.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
To get something I'm very proud of.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
African American unemployment stands at the lowest rate ever recorded.
Speaker 17 (31:12):
Okay, oh my, he produces maybe the statistic isn't quite right.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
It is.
Speaker 17 (31:22):
And there you see a shot you see Republicans standing
and applauding, and there you see a shot of Democrats
who are sitting on their hands, including many members of
the Black Caucus in Congress.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
What do you make of that.
Speaker 14 (31:34):
That, as with so many other groups around the world,
the leaders of groups of the lagging are often themselves.
That one of the biggest handicaps of those groups because
they have to depict the problems in ways it will
allow them to play the role of rescuers, and so
(31:54):
there'll be no talk about how you can do this
or that for yourself. They'll be talking about what we
can get them to deliver for you. And usually that's
a lot of words and things that have bad effects.
And that's true not only with blocks in the United States.
It's true of people in the lower income people in England.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
And here is Thomas Soul talking about a very important
issue that the academic world is full of people who
don't think America is a great country. And when you
understand that these people hate America, it begins to make
a lot more sense.
Speaker 14 (32:29):
But I think what you see in the most clearly.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I think in the academic world.
Speaker 14 (32:34):
Are people who don't think that this country is a
great country. One example of a colleague of mine who
teaches at Harvard after nine to eleven put an American
flag on his car, and his colleague said, what is
that for.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
When I visited Berkeley.
Speaker 14 (32:52):
In the aftermath of nine to eleven, mine, then there were,
you know, flags everywhere. I did not see one flag
on at Berkeley campus, on any of those expensive houses,
you know. When as I was coming back from Berkeley,
the first American flag I saw was in a low
income black.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Neighborhood in Elkland.
Speaker 14 (33:12):
Uh. These are people who consider themselves citizens of the
world and that the rest of us are so lucky
to have the bear to change Americas.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Nice night for doing the thank you, and good night.
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