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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time time, time, time, lock and.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Load from Michael Varie Show is on the air for.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
The mayor in New York City and Chicago.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
President Trump made it clear at Teresrio, We're going to
double Donald, triple Donald.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Sanctuary City.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
ICE will now have a larger budget than all but
fifteen of the world's militaries. Its four year total is
more than every military except for the United States and China.
This is a direct assault on the civil liberties of
all Americans and will fundamentally undermine our rights.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Day like today, I want folks to know we.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Have your back, and we'll continue to come back and
do what we can to protect our diverse communities, to
protect the spirit that defines the best of this city
and our state, and to push back again this cruelty,
to push back against this cruelty that is being perpetuated
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by the President of the United States.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
What you see in those pictures, is it making America safer?
Speaker 7 (01:13):
No, it's terrorizing Americans, our friends and neighbors, otherwise known
as immigrants, many of them.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But these are folks who you know.
Speaker 7 (01:22):
They go to our churches, they work at our grocery stores,
they work on construction sites, they work in childcare, They
worked in many jobs that would not be filled had
they not done it. And I also just sit back
and ask who asked for this. Americans were told that
the most violent individuals would be deported, and we're now
seeing in the numbers that that is a very small
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percentage of who is being targeted.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
We're not helpless. You should meet their chaos with chaos.
A j Vance has a way of bringing.
Speaker 8 (01:54):
A very structured, thoughtful, reasoned approach to conservatism. What you're
going to hear him say right now is something you
will very rarely hear a Republican able to and willing
to say. He's talking about the fact that if you
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flood the country with people from other countries whose culture
is diametrically opposed to your own with regard to personal rights,
which with regard to family structure, with with regard to
conflict resolution, many of whom are not of your same
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religion or culture. Those people are not. This is no
longer what we used to call the melting pot. You
will no longer have a culture that you identify with.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
You will have.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
A Balkanized Tower of Babbel where people don't share a
sense of community and culture. And when that happens, you
don't have what Max Weber called a nation. You don't
have a community rit large, and you lose a lot
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of what you currently love and have historically loved. So
the people who are from outside your community, who do
not share your values but want to live here because
it's well, they don't want to live in the place
where people share their values because their values, if held
by one hundred percent of the people, end up in
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a broken, impoverished, unsafe, filthy society. So they want to
come to the country that your values have created. But
when they arrive, your values are not their values. So
they want to bring the very values that have results
did in the world. The people from California coming to Texas,
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same thing, people from New York coming to Florida, same thing.
It's the same deal. It's not just a Muslim or
a Hispanic, or it's culture, and these things apply no
matter what. So when you bring all of these people
this fast and they locate in a tight community, you
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have nations within nations, and the smaller nation does not
participate emotionally or in any other way with the larger nation.
And this is the LA protests and this is what
we're seeing with Zorn Mundani in New York.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So here is JD. Vance.
Speaker 8 (04:50):
I think two minutes and nine seconds of some of
the most important discussion of culture, more important than politics
because politics is downstream of culture that you will ever hear.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Listen carefully.
Speaker 9 (05:02):
You cannot swap ten million people from anywhere else in
the world and expect for America to remain unchanged. And
the same way, you can't export the Constitution, the written
words on a piece of paper to some random country
and expect the same kind of government to take hold.
That's not something to lament or be sad about. It's
something to take pride in that this is a distinctive
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moment and time, with a distinctive place and a distinctive people.
The founders of our country understood that, perhaps better than anybody.
They understood that our shared qualities, our heritage, our values,
our manners and customs confer a special and indispensable advantage,
I would say, a decisive one, even in rebellion against
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what was at the time the world's greatest military power.
That means something today. Citizenship, true citizenship is not just
about rights in a world of globalized commerce, and communication.
It also is about obligations, including the obligations that we
have to our fellow countrymen. It's about recognizing that your
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fellow citizens are not interchangeable cogs in the global economy,
nor in law or commerce.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Should they be treated that way.
Speaker 9 (06:18):
And I think it's impossible to feel a sense of
obligation to something without having gratitude for it. We should
demand that our people, whether first or tenth generation Americans,
have gratitude for this country.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I believe, and my own story.
Speaker 9 (06:35):
Is a testament to that that yes, immigration can enrich
the United States of America. My lovely wife is the
daughter of immigrants to this country, and I am certainly
better off, and I believe our whole country is.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Better off for it.
Speaker 9 (06:50):
But we should expect everyone in our country, whether their ancestors.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Were here before the.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
Revolutionary War or whether they arrived on our shores just
a few short months ago, to feel a sense of gratitude,
And we should be skeptical of anyone who lacks it,
especially if they purport to lead this great country.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
That right there is as bold and as reasoned a
statement as you will ever hear.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Anyone in elected office. May about a very very.
Speaker 10 (07:25):
Tough and famous issue, as I call it the Michael
Berry Jove.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
I think the Advance is a very very good spokesman
for certain elements of conservatism libertarianism in America. He also
has a keen understanding of America's unique history, which is
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important to understand. Every country has their own history that
informs the culture, the traditions. China is quite different than
the United States, Japan quite different than the United States,
Russia quite different than the United States. Each of the
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Middle Eastern countries is unique in their own way, but
they are far more similar than they are to the
United States and our political traditions. These things are all
very very important to understand. When you start talking about
immigration policy, people are going to bring with them that
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which they learned already, and in some cases that is
so baked into their being that they will never change it.
And it's important to understand that. So when you bring
a lot of say, refugees from the Forever Wars that
the Dick Cheney's and John Bolton's and the Bushes love
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to fight, you do understand that just because that guy
helped your soldier in country when you were there occupying
and fighting, which you love to do for decades on end,
and you wish these wars would never end. If that
is your approach, you end up relying on the services
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of people in country. And then what happens, Well, we
got to reward them for what they did to keep
our boys safe. Understandable, So now we import them into
this country. So that means that every time we choose
to go boots on the ground occupying force in Iraq,
police force, whatever you want to call it, or Afghanistan,
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once we choose to do that, it's not a war anymore.
It's an occupation. When you choose to stay there with
no actual strategic victory in mind, there's no exit strategy.
Not a Colon Powell fan, But if you look at
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the Powell doctrine, it's a pretty simple way to look
at these sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
If you break it, you own it.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
If you go in and topple Saddam Hussein, fine, what
are you replacing him with? What did we replace him with?
Well we didn't, that's just it. What does Iraq look
like today? What does Afghanistan look like today? Billions of
dollars later, bribes paid Karzai enriched, Is Afghanistan better today?
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Then before we lost the lives we did. There is
Vietnam better today because we lost five two hundred and
eighty lives there and an entire generation. And before you answer,
ask yourself, was it your father, brother son who was
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killed in Kome Tree there, who was never recovered, who
was held as a pow. I understand the neo con position.
They say it often, grow up, be tough. This is
part of being a real country. Young Men have to die.
You have to fight wars. You're picking wars, you're choosing them.
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You're gleefully relishing the opportunity to send boys to war.
This is what Lindsey Graham masturbates to He's thrilled, he
can't wait. This is what John Bolton gets off on
war porn. And you see their wargasm out for the
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world to see on the evening programs.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Once we start dropping bombs.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Their hope is that there will be enough resistance on
the ground or another attack on Americans that they can declare, yeahs, aren't.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
We all angry? Come on, guys, let's go to war.
You can't keep doing this.
Speaker 8 (12:06):
The cost of war like this, the toll it takes
is so much more than what gets placed on the
Ledger in terms of men sent, bullet shot, food provided fuel.
You end up bringing back people from foreign countries into
your own reintegrating them. There is a cost to that,
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and it happens every time. Every time. The longer in
your engagement, the more people you bring back. That doesn't
mean that those people don't make any valuable contributions.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Some of them do.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
I think the value I think the contribution of Vietnamese
who were brought into this country during and after the
Vietnam War. I think that ledger would be very very
positive small businesses owned from nail salons to food shops,
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to mechanical to high tech for that matter, And I
think on the whole you would say that's been a
very positive thing. Would we have done it absent our involvement?
That no, we wouldn't know. We went in and messed
that place up and we were unsuccessful, which then should
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mean were five thousand lives lost worth learning the lesson
because nobody wanted to admit their failure. Well, just remember
before you answer that that you didn't personally lose a
loved one. You didn't personally lose your husband or your son.
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So these things are real easy to talk about. In
the main, they're really easy to talk about. Any abstract
X number of lives lost. Well, there's a lot of
people that were police officers that died after taking the shot,
but only one of them was my big brother. So
that matters to me on a level that data can't
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capture every single family affected by Vietnam. They bear that,
they wear that, they suffer that for the rest of
their lives. Mothers praying the Rosary or falling to their
knees every night crying themselves to sleep. Marriage is broken
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up over that, widows made out of that, children left
without a father, the economic toll that takes on that family. Oh,
none of this is captured in the We're going to
go to war there. So what we've done, and the
neocons have driven this, what we've done is hollowed out
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our nation. We've sent our boys to wars to be killed,
while at the same time, because the neocons love opened illegal,
they love it. So we're sending our boys to war
while they're being replaced by the people of those countries.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
That were already broken.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
This is not no, no, you the key, no the stone.
And I'm going to play this audio of Jake Tapper
at CNN, and I'm going to let you form your
own conclusion. I don't want to color the discussion. Let's
start with the premise that Jake Tapper is a snake,
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and that we don't like Jake Tapper, we don't trust
Jake Tapper, and he's not one of our kind of guys.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Okay, let's start with that. Now, listen to this. So
what's really going on here? I mean, what's really going on?
Speaker 11 (15:40):
Well, Experts such as our friend Julie Brown from the
Miami Herald, who has been covering Epstein for years, say
that the notion of Epstein having an easy to access
client list is likely a red herron, and that's what
the Trump administration is lying on, that there likely isn't
a list per se. But they are also now relying
on the fact that because of mega influencers who often
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put forward so many falsehoods, legacy news media won't push
the point that while there might not be a list,
there are certainly.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Files that can be released.
Speaker 11 (16:12):
There's a trove of information that the Trump administration is
right now refusing to share information that could well points
of the powerful folks who availed themselves of the sex
trafficking victims of Jeffrey Epstein. If you go, for example,
to the FBI vaults online, you can see that there
are twenty two files containing thousands of pages. Most of
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them are heavily redacted. Now, sure, of course, redact the
names and identifying characteristics of the victims, but why not
make the victim and witness testimonies public. As Julie Brown
points out, there's still so much we don't know from
the investigations by US attorneys in Miami and in New York,
witness interviews in the US Virgin Islands and New Mexico.
Brown writes that there's still more evidence that hasn't been published,
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including quote Epstein kept video cameras in most of his residences,
and Epstein's autopsy, nor the report of the investigation into
his death has.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Ever been made public.
Speaker 11 (17:05):
So while there may not be an official client list
to be released, as the administration is now saying, there's
a lot of extra information that is not being made public.
Despite Trump's Justice Department basically now saying case closed, this
isn't going to go away.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
The public. You you're being played for fools here, So.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
I know, we just dismiss it because Jake Tapper is
a loser and he'll say anything at any time, which
is true. This is a guy who wrote a book
about Joe Biden's dementia and Joe Biden's decline while president.
And this is the same guy who wouldn't allow Laura
Trump to bring it up when the election hadn't been
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held yet. This is a guy who denied it all
the while and empowered and enabled Joe Biden. And now
he's profiting from simply putting on paper what we all
saw and he was denying. Yeah, all of that is true.
But back to the Epstein list. Surely, surely we're not
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just going to stop talking about it, right, Let's go
to five oh six. This was Attorney General Pam Bondy.
She's not saying this anymore, but this is what she
had said five oh six.
Speaker 12 (18:36):
Tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or
child porn, and there are hundreds of victims, and no
one victim will ever get released. It's just the volume.
And that's what they're going through right now. The FBI
is diligently going through that.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
Okay, now here's Carol Levett, the White House Press Secretary
asked about the Epstein list.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The FBI looks at the circumstances founding the debt of
Jeffrey Epstein. According to the report, this systematic review revealed
no incriminating client list. So what happened to the Epstein
client list that the Attorney General said she had.
Speaker 12 (19:23):
On her desk?
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Well, I think if you go back and look at
what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was
on your network on Fox News, go ahead, and.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Roberts said, doj maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients?
Will that really happen? And she said, it's sitting on
my desk right now to review.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork,
all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to. And I'll
let her speak for that. But again, when it comes
to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are
more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put
behind bars. They have an operation going on right now
called some Heat, which has our murder rate trending in
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the lowest direction in United States history. Their emphasis on
violent crime and locking up violent criminals has led to
the arrest of fourteen thousand violent criminals. That's a sixty
two percent increase from the same time period last year.
So this Attorney General and the FBI director are committed
to putting bad people behind bars where they belong. That
they promise an exhaustive review.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's what they did.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
For any further details, I would refer you to the
Department of Justice.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
Well, this doesn't feel like the forthcoming answers we were expecting,
does it. Am I being crazy? If I'm out aligned,
didn't find tell me? So here is here's something that's
going to be very interesting. Congressman James Comer, Republican from Kentucky,
on Benny Johnson's show, talking about the government using Epstein
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and those videos to blackmail influential people around the world.
He thinks that's what's happening. Listen to this.
Speaker 13 (21:03):
They cover their tracks, and it's just hard for me
to believe they're going to leave incriminating evidence if the.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Government was involved.
Speaker 13 (21:09):
If the government wasn't involved, I don't think they would
have any reason to protect Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton.
They're never going to be elected anything again, I don't
think they would have any reason to protect Bill Gates
or anybody else. The concern I've always had about the
eptein file was the government involved.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Did the government know?
Speaker 13 (21:26):
Was the government using Epstein and the videos to blackmail
the most influential people around the world.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Okay, stop there that time.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
So comer who's kind of a reformer, kind of guy,
Republican leader, he's like, I'm worried the government's using Epstein
in these videos. They're blackmail and influential people. Well, guess
what he's saying now. That was before Now he's no, no, no,
I don't think that's happening at all.
Speaker 13 (21:52):
I don't think the Department Justice has them, or at
least the Attorney General does not have them, or she
would have turned them over. The President ordered them release,
the Attorney General ordered them released. We all know they
have not been released. And one of my biggest fears
that I had, and.
Speaker 14 (22:08):
I expressed this with was Cash Patail and a lot
of people, Stephen Miller and a lot of people going
into the to the new administration. I'm like, you know,
I hope they're not shredding document tright. Now, this was
a few weeks before the transition, I said, I hope
they're not shredding document but you all need to go
on that first day and try to get all this
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stuff released, because you know, my fear is from from
what I dealt with in investigations and in communication with
this deep state apparatus is they're probably in their shredding
documents as we speak. So hopefully someone has a copy
of that, and you know, I hope we find out
because our task force has done everything, led by Anna
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Paulina Luna.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You had her under show many times.
Speaker 13 (22:54):
I mean, she's relentless, she's persistent, she's pretty frustrated right
now that these files haven't been released, even though the
President and the Interney.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
General have ordered them released.
Speaker 13 (23:06):
But you know, I told Ann of the same thing
I told Patel and everybody else.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
You assume that.
Speaker 13 (23:14):
Somebody in the deep state said, okay, we'll just put
things in a file back here, this incriminating evidence on everybody,
and maybe the next administration can can do whatever they
want to do with it. That's that's unfortunately the way
it's supposed to work, but hasn't worked with this deep state.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Sorry, that was the same interview, but I do find
it odd. In one breath there is I think the
government was controlling powerful people by through Epstein, by coordinating
them to have sex with children, which is a very
serious crime. But I don't think they have any videos
of it or why they about face what's happening here.
Speaker 13 (24:01):
Strake burd and my fellow Orange County buddy Michael Berry
offends the establishment and speaks for us real Americans.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
I'm from the country and I like it that way.
We haven't talked about our economy, and I think it's
good that we do. Let's start with six' oh, Nine,
jim the flashback From Joe scarborough That Donald trump is politically.
Dead this Was december of twenty twenty, two so two
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and a half years. Ago that Genius Joe scarborough who
told us that just before he stepped out of the,
race he told us That Joe, biden this was the
Best Joe biden. Ever, mika his, mistress her father has
Known Joe biden since the early Seventy this is the
Best Joe biden. Ever, well two and a half years
ago he Said trump is politically.
Speaker 15 (24:49):
Dead this is sort of a scene out of the sixth.
Sense i've seen it in politics for. Decades you've seen it.
Too people are politically, dead and like the sixth, sense
they just don't know they're politically. Dead Donald trump is,
finished BUT i see at time and again they just
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don't know, it so they can't start planning for a
graceful exit.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Strategy then we go to The Bloomberg news report six
to FOURTEEN gym unemployment was projected to be, up and
in fact it dropped or better said easier to understand
more people are going to.
Speaker 16 (25:32):
Work this is good, news much better than, expected an
upside surprise on headline payrolls one forty seven the estimate
one o.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Six the unemployment.
Speaker 16 (25:41):
Rate was at four point two in our survey, economists
we're looking for that to climb up to four point.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Three it comes in at four point.
Speaker 16 (25:48):
One and if we want some high frequency, data or
at least some high frequency, data jobless claims much lower.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Than expected across the.
Speaker 16 (25:54):
Board here in the labor, market this is a pretty solid.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Read, now what's interesting about this is that foreign born labor.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Is seeing job.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
Decreases native born labor is seeing job increases because as
folks are being, deported those tasks still need to be.
Performed guess who's getting hired to perform those. Tasks now
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here's the crazy. Thing when you talk about entry level,
positions service, jobs semi skilled and unskilled, jobs you have
a large percentage of Minority american born potential workers who
are out of, jobs.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Some of whom want to go to.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
Work when you replace their foreign, replacement when you fill
those jobs with people who were on unemployment or who've
cycled off of, unemployment that is what is. Happening it's
a fascinating. Thing it's not, surprising it's not surprising even
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a little, bit but that's what is. Happening Scott, bessant
The Treasury. Secretary five oh, Five jim was ON cnbc
talking about tariffs and the prediction on the effects tariffs would.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Have let's think about.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
This you can't have it both. Ways the terriff's going
to hurt the, economy then we're going to pick Up
according to THE, cbo if you want to TAKE cbo
scoring over the ten year, window we pick up two
point eight trillion in. Revenue and what we've seen so
far is that tiff tariffs haven't. Hurt the dog that
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didn't bark Was tariff's going to hurt the.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Economy we're going to hurt the.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Markets market had the fastest recovery ever aparol from a
fifteen percent, decline and.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
We're at new hives in the.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Market So i've made my career on listening to the,
market Not Wall street. Economists So i'm going to stick
with what the market's telling.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Me, now for those of you who followed me for
a long, time you know THAT i am within a
certain nuanced position not in favor of. Protectionism and a
tariff is a form of. Protection it is government imposing
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attacks whatever you want to call, it imposing, attacks and
whoever you want to, pay it still.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
A tax on the transaction of.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Commerce here is the problem with, this and this is
the problem with pure. Libertarianism it's one of the things
that frustrates people with the. Libertarians the pure libertarians are
for open. BORDERS i know, It we've had the. Conversation,
well the problem with. That the reality is if you
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have completely free and open borders to anyone who wants
to come, in we.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Would be overwhelmed.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
Tomorrow we would simply become the countries they, fled a
combination Of, Africa, mexico The Middle, East, china the poorest
parts Of Southeast, asia and then you don't have a
country anything like what you have. Today so there is
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a nuance to. This there's a complexity to positions that
you would like to be able to say this is
a perfect principle and that's. It, likewise my opposition to
protectionism and to government intervention into commercial transactions domestic or
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in this case, international is that you're not operating in
an environment of free.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Trade to start.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
With if other countries are prohibiting our agricultural products from
being imported there and pricing them out of, viability they
are not engaged in free. Trade so the obvious answer
is if you want a sense of fairness or our,
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farmer you, say all, right well then we're not taking
your cheap crap in Here china and doing that has
enough of an impact on The chinese economy it has it.
Has folks here don't realize. This the media that's paid
off by The chinese government doesn't realize. This But china
is reeling right, now and the Fear american businesses are
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now who had outsourced To, china a lot of them
aren't bringing that back. Home we'd like to believe they,
are some of them, are but most of them are
not bringing it back. Home they're just looking for another
place to get cheap. Labor so they're just going to
pull out Of china and use factories In. VIETNAM i,
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mean that's what's going to. Happen we all know that's
what's going to. Happen you might peck around the, edges
but that's what's going to, happen which is fine with.
ME i Believe china is our mortal. Enemy we just
had Another chinese spy caught just the other. Day he
was traveling in The Middle. East just had. Another there's
all of the world combined does not send as many
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spies to this. Country we keep catching, them and we
keep allowing. It why do we trade with these. People
i'm for crushing their. ECONOMY i am there are our enemies.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Militarily they are our. Enemy they spy on us.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Daily they conduct themselves commercially in a way that is.
Unbecoming they do not protect our intellectual, property they do
not follow international. Protocols they should have never been allowed
into the international economic community that we.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Allowed and.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
Let me not get worked up toward the end of the.
PROGRAM i do want you to know that healthy disagreement is.
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Community thank, YOU i mean good.
Speaker 15 (32:36):
Night
It's that time time, time, time, lock and.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Load from Michael Varie Show is on the air for.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
The mayor in New York City and Chicago.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
President Trump made it clear at Teresrio, We're going to
double Donald, triple Donald.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Sanctuary City.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
ICE will now have a larger budget than all but
fifteen of the world's militaries. Its four year total is
more than every military except for the United States and China.
This is a direct assault on the civil liberties of
all Americans and will fundamentally undermine our rights.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Day like today, I want folks to know we.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Have your back, and we'll continue to come back and
do what we can to protect our diverse communities, to
protect the spirit that defines the best of this city
and our state, and to push back again this cruelty,
to push back against this cruelty that is being perpetuated
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by the President of the United States.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
What you see in those pictures, is it making America safer?
Speaker 7 (01:13):
No, it's terrorizing Americans, our friends and neighbors, otherwise known
as immigrants, many of them.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But these are folks who you know.
Speaker 7 (01:22):
They go to our churches, they work at our grocery stores,
they work on construction sites, they work in childcare, They
worked in many jobs that would not be filled had
they not done it. And I also just sit back
and ask who asked for this. Americans were told that
the most violent individuals would be deported, and we're now
seeing in the numbers that that is a very small
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percentage of who is being targeted.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
We're not helpless. You should meet their chaos with chaos.
A j Vance has a way of bringing.
Speaker 8 (01:54):
A very structured, thoughtful, reasoned approach to conservatism. What you're
going to hear him say right now is something you
will very rarely hear a Republican able to and willing
to say. He's talking about the fact that if you
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flood the country with people from other countries whose culture
is diametrically opposed to your own with regard to personal rights,
which with regard to family structure, with with regard to
conflict resolution, many of whom are not of your same
(02:41):
religion or culture. Those people are not. This is no
longer what we used to call the melting pot. You
will no longer have a culture that you identify with.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
You will have.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
A Balkanized Tower of Babbel where people don't share a
sense of community and culture. And when that happens, you
don't have what Max Weber called a nation. You don't
have a community rit large, and you lose a lot
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of what you currently love and have historically loved. So
the people who are from outside your community, who do
not share your values but want to live here because
it's well, they don't want to live in the place
where people share their values because their values, if held
by one hundred percent of the people, end up in
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a broken, impoverished, unsafe, filthy society. So they want to
come to the country that your values have created. But
when they arrive, your values are not their values. So
they want to bring the very values that have results
did in the world. The people from California coming to Texas,
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same thing, people from New York coming to Florida, same thing.
It's the same deal. It's not just a Muslim or
a Hispanic, or it's culture, and these things apply no
matter what. So when you bring all of these people
this fast and they locate in a tight community, you
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have nations within nations, and the smaller nation does not
participate emotionally or in any other way with the larger nation.
And this is the LA protests and this is what
we're seeing with Zorn Mundani in New York.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So here is JD. Vance.
Speaker 8 (04:50):
I think two minutes and nine seconds of some of
the most important discussion of culture, more important than politics
because politics is downstream of culture that you will ever hear.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Listen carefully.
Speaker 9 (05:02):
You cannot swap ten million people from anywhere else in
the world and expect for America to remain unchanged. And
the same way, you can't export the Constitution, the written
words on a piece of paper to some random country
and expect the same kind of government to take hold.
That's not something to lament or be sad about. It's
something to take pride in that this is a distinctive
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moment and time, with a distinctive place and a distinctive people.
The founders of our country understood that, perhaps better than anybody.
They understood that our shared qualities, our heritage, our values,
our manners and customs confer a special and indispensable advantage,
I would say, a decisive one, even in rebellion against
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what was at the time the world's greatest military power.
That means something today. Citizenship, true citizenship is not just
about rights in a world of globalized commerce, and communication.
It also is about obligations, including the obligations that we
have to our fellow countrymen. It's about recognizing that your
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fellow citizens are not interchangeable cogs in the global economy,
nor in law or commerce.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Should they be treated that way.
Speaker 9 (06:18):
And I think it's impossible to feel a sense of
obligation to something without having gratitude for it. We should
demand that our people, whether first or tenth generation Americans,
have gratitude for this country.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I believe, and my own story.
Speaker 9 (06:35):
Is a testament to that that yes, immigration can enrich
the United States of America. My lovely wife is the
daughter of immigrants to this country, and I am certainly
better off, and I believe our whole country is.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Better off for it.
Speaker 9 (06:50):
But we should expect everyone in our country, whether their ancestors.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Were here before the.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
Revolutionary War or whether they arrived on our shores just
a few short months ago, to feel a sense of gratitude,
And we should be skeptical of anyone who lacks it,
especially if they purport to lead this great country.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
That right there is as bold and as reasoned a
statement as you will ever hear.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Anyone in elected office. May about a very very.
Speaker 10 (07:25):
Tough and famous issue, as I call it the Michael
Berry Jove.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
I think the Advance is a very very good spokesman
for certain elements of conservatism libertarianism in America. He also
has a keen understanding of America's unique history, which is
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important to understand. Every country has their own history that
informs the culture, the traditions. China is quite different than
the United States, Japan quite different than the United States,
Russia quite different than the United States. Each of the
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Middle Eastern countries is unique in their own way, but
they are far more similar than they are to the
United States and our political traditions. These things are all
very very important to understand. When you start talking about
immigration policy, people are going to bring with them that
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which they learned already, and in some cases that is
so baked into their being that they will never change it.
And it's important to understand that. So when you bring
a lot of say, refugees from the Forever Wars that
the Dick Cheney's and John Bolton's and the Bushes love
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to fight, you do understand that just because that guy
helped your soldier in country when you were there occupying
and fighting, which you love to do for decades on end,
and you wish these wars would never end. If that
is your approach, you end up relying on the services
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of people in country. And then what happens, Well, we
got to reward them for what they did to keep
our boys safe. Understandable, So now we import them into
this country. So that means that every time we choose
to go boots on the ground occupying force in Iraq,
police force, whatever you want to call it, or Afghanistan,
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once we choose to do that, it's not a war anymore.
It's an occupation. When you choose to stay there with
no actual strategic victory in mind, there's no exit strategy.
Not a Colon Powell fan, But if you look at
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the Powell doctrine, it's a pretty simple way to look
at these sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
If you break it, you own it.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
If you go in and topple Saddam Hussein, fine, what
are you replacing him with? What did we replace him with?
Well we didn't, that's just it. What does Iraq look
like today? What does Afghanistan look like today? Billions of
dollars later, bribes paid Karzai enriched, Is Afghanistan better today?
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Then before we lost the lives we did. There is
Vietnam better today because we lost five two hundred and
eighty lives there and an entire generation. And before you answer,
ask yourself, was it your father, brother son who was
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killed in Kome Tree there, who was never recovered, who
was held as a pow. I understand the neo con position.
They say it often, grow up, be tough. This is
part of being a real country. Young Men have to die.
You have to fight wars. You're picking wars, you're choosing them.
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You're gleefully relishing the opportunity to send boys to war.
This is what Lindsey Graham masturbates to He's thrilled, he
can't wait. This is what John Bolton gets off on
war porn. And you see their wargasm out for the
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world to see on the evening programs.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Once we start dropping bombs.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Their hope is that there will be enough resistance on
the ground or another attack on Americans that they can declare, yeahs, aren't.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
We all angry? Come on, guys, let's go to war.
You can't keep doing this.
Speaker 8 (12:06):
The cost of war like this, the toll it takes
is so much more than what gets placed on the
Ledger in terms of men sent, bullet shot, food provided fuel.
You end up bringing back people from foreign countries into
your own reintegrating them. There is a cost to that,
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and it happens every time. Every time. The longer in
your engagement, the more people you bring back. That doesn't
mean that those people don't make any valuable contributions.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Some of them do.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
I think the value I think the contribution of Vietnamese
who were brought into this country during and after the
Vietnam War. I think that ledger would be very very
positive small businesses owned from nail salons to food shops,
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to mechanical to high tech for that matter, And I
think on the whole you would say that's been a
very positive thing. Would we have done it absent our involvement?
That no, we wouldn't know. We went in and messed
that place up and we were unsuccessful, which then should
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mean were five thousand lives lost worth learning the lesson
because nobody wanted to admit their failure. Well, just remember
before you answer that that you didn't personally lose a
loved one. You didn't personally lose your husband or your son.
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So these things are real easy to talk about. In
the main, they're really easy to talk about. Any abstract
X number of lives lost. Well, there's a lot of
people that were police officers that died after taking the shot,
but only one of them was my big brother. So
that matters to me on a level that data can't
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capture every single family affected by Vietnam. They bear that,
they wear that, they suffer that for the rest of
their lives. Mothers praying the Rosary or falling to their
knees every night crying themselves to sleep. Marriage is broken
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up over that, widows made out of that, children left
without a father, the economic toll that takes on that family. Oh,
none of this is captured in the We're going to
go to war there. So what we've done, and the
neocons have driven this, what we've done is hollowed out
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our nation. We've sent our boys to wars to be killed,
while at the same time, because the neocons love opened illegal,
they love it. So we're sending our boys to war
while they're being replaced by the people of those countries.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
That were already broken.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
This is not no, no, you the key, no the stone.
And I'm going to play this audio of Jake Tapper
at CNN, and I'm going to let you form your
own conclusion. I don't want to color the discussion. Let's
start with the premise that Jake Tapper is a snake,
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and that we don't like Jake Tapper, we don't trust
Jake Tapper, and he's not one of our kind of guys.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Okay, let's start with that. Now, listen to this. So
what's really going on here? I mean, what's really going on?
Speaker 11 (15:40):
Well, Experts such as our friend Julie Brown from the
Miami Herald, who has been covering Epstein for years, say
that the notion of Epstein having an easy to access
client list is likely a red herron, and that's what
the Trump administration is lying on, that there likely isn't
a list per se. But they are also now relying
on the fact that because of mega influencers who often
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put forward so many falsehoods, legacy news media won't push
the point that while there might not be a list,
there are certainly.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Files that can be released.
Speaker 11 (16:12):
There's a trove of information that the Trump administration is
right now refusing to share information that could well points
of the powerful folks who availed themselves of the sex
trafficking victims of Jeffrey Epstein. If you go, for example,
to the FBI vaults online, you can see that there
are twenty two files containing thousands of pages. Most of
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them are heavily redacted. Now, sure, of course, redact the
names and identifying characteristics of the victims, but why not
make the victim and witness testimonies public. As Julie Brown
points out, there's still so much we don't know from
the investigations by US attorneys in Miami and in New York,
witness interviews in the US Virgin Islands and New Mexico.
Brown writes that there's still more evidence that hasn't been published,
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including quote Epstein kept video cameras in most of his residences,
and Epstein's autopsy, nor the report of the investigation into
his death has.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Ever been made public.
Speaker 11 (17:05):
So while there may not be an official client list
to be released, as the administration is now saying, there's
a lot of extra information that is not being made public.
Despite Trump's Justice Department basically now saying case closed, this
isn't going to go away.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
The public. You you're being played for fools here, So.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
I know, we just dismiss it because Jake Tapper is
a loser and he'll say anything at any time, which
is true. This is a guy who wrote a book
about Joe Biden's dementia and Joe Biden's decline while president.
And this is the same guy who wouldn't allow Laura
Trump to bring it up when the election hadn't been
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held yet. This is a guy who denied it all
the while and empowered and enabled Joe Biden. And now
he's profiting from simply putting on paper what we all
saw and he was denying. Yeah, all of that is true.
But back to the Epstein list. Surely, surely we're not
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just going to stop talking about it, right, Let's go
to five oh six. This was Attorney General Pam Bondy.
She's not saying this anymore, but this is what she
had said five oh six.
Speaker 12 (18:36):
Tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or
child porn, and there are hundreds of victims, and no
one victim will ever get released. It's just the volume.
And that's what they're going through right now. The FBI
is diligently going through that.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
Okay, now here's Carol Levett, the White House Press Secretary
asked about the Epstein list.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The FBI looks at the circumstances founding the debt of
Jeffrey Epstein. According to the report, this systematic review revealed
no incriminating client list. So what happened to the Epstein
client list that the Attorney General said she had.
Speaker 12 (19:23):
On her desk?
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Well, I think if you go back and look at
what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was
on your network on Fox News, go ahead, and.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Roberts said, doj maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients?
Will that really happen? And she said, it's sitting on
my desk right now to review.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork,
all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to. And I'll
let her speak for that. But again, when it comes
to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are
more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put
behind bars. They have an operation going on right now
called some Heat, which has our murder rate trending in
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the lowest direction in United States history. Their emphasis on
violent crime and locking up violent criminals has led to
the arrest of fourteen thousand violent criminals. That's a sixty
two percent increase from the same time period last year.
So this Attorney General and the FBI director are committed
to putting bad people behind bars where they belong. That
they promise an exhaustive review.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's what they did.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
For any further details, I would refer you to the
Department of Justice.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
Well, this doesn't feel like the forthcoming answers we were expecting,
does it. Am I being crazy? If I'm out aligned,
didn't find tell me? So here is here's something that's
going to be very interesting. Congressman James Comer, Republican from Kentucky,
on Benny Johnson's show, talking about the government using Epstein
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and those videos to blackmail influential people around the world.
He thinks that's what's happening. Listen to this.
Speaker 13 (21:03):
They cover their tracks, and it's just hard for me
to believe they're going to leave incriminating evidence if the.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Government was involved.
Speaker 13 (21:09):
If the government wasn't involved, I don't think they would
have any reason to protect Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton.
They're never going to be elected anything again, I don't
think they would have any reason to protect Bill Gates
or anybody else. The concern I've always had about the
eptein file was the government involved.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Did the government know?
Speaker 13 (21:26):
Was the government using Epstein and the videos to blackmail
the most influential people around the world.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Okay, stop there that time.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
So comer who's kind of a reformer, kind of guy,
Republican leader, he's like, I'm worried the government's using Epstein
in these videos. They're blackmail and influential people. Well, guess
what he's saying now. That was before Now he's no, no, no,
I don't think that's happening at all.
Speaker 13 (21:52):
I don't think the Department Justice has them, or at
least the Attorney General does not have them, or she
would have turned them over. The President ordered them release,
the Attorney General ordered them released. We all know they
have not been released. And one of my biggest fears
that I had, and.
Speaker 14 (22:08):
I expressed this with was Cash Patail and a lot
of people, Stephen Miller and a lot of people going
into the to the new administration. I'm like, you know,
I hope they're not shredding document tright. Now, this was
a few weeks before the transition, I said, I hope
they're not shredding document but you all need to go
on that first day and try to get all this
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stuff released, because you know, my fear is from from
what I dealt with in investigations and in communication with
this deep state apparatus is they're probably in their shredding
documents as we speak. So hopefully someone has a copy
of that, and you know, I hope we find out
because our task force has done everything, led by Anna
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Paulina Luna.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You had her under show many times.
Speaker 13 (22:54):
I mean, she's relentless, she's persistent, she's pretty frustrated right
now that these files haven't been released, even though the
President and the Interney.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
General have ordered them released.
Speaker 13 (23:06):
But you know, I told Ann of the same thing
I told Patel and everybody else.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
You assume that.
Speaker 13 (23:14):
Somebody in the deep state said, okay, we'll just put
things in a file back here, this incriminating evidence on everybody,
and maybe the next administration can can do whatever they
want to do with it. That's that's unfortunately the way
it's supposed to work, but hasn't worked with this deep state.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Sorry, that was the same interview, but I do find
it odd. In one breath there is I think the
government was controlling powerful people by through Epstein, by coordinating
them to have sex with children, which is a very
serious crime. But I don't think they have any videos
of it or why they about face what's happening here.
Speaker 13 (24:01):
Strake burd and my fellow Orange County buddy Michael Berry
offends the establishment and speaks for us real Americans.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
I'm from the country and I like it that way.
We haven't talked about our economy, and I think it's
good that we do. Let's start with six' oh, Nine,
jim the flashback From Joe scarborough That Donald trump is politically.
Dead this Was december of twenty twenty, two so two
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and a half years. Ago that Genius Joe scarborough who
told us that just before he stepped out of the,
race he told us That Joe, biden this was the
Best Joe biden. Ever, mika his, mistress her father has
Known Joe biden since the early Seventy this is the
Best Joe biden. Ever, well two and a half years
ago he Said trump is politically.
Speaker 15 (24:49):
Dead this is sort of a scene out of the sixth.
Sense i've seen it in politics for. Decades you've seen it.
Too people are politically, dead and like the sixth, sense
they just don't know they're politically. Dead Donald trump is,
finished BUT i see at time and again they just
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don't know, it so they can't start planning for a
graceful exit.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Strategy then we go to The Bloomberg news report six
to FOURTEEN gym unemployment was projected to be, up and
in fact it dropped or better said easier to understand
more people are going to.
Speaker 16 (25:32):
Work this is good, news much better than, expected an
upside surprise on headline payrolls one forty seven the estimate
one o.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Six the unemployment.
Speaker 16 (25:41):
Rate was at four point two in our survey, economists
we're looking for that to climb up to four point.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Three it comes in at four point.
Speaker 16 (25:48):
One and if we want some high frequency, data or
at least some high frequency, data jobless claims much lower.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Than expected across the.
Speaker 16 (25:54):
Board here in the labor, market this is a pretty solid.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Read, now what's interesting about this is that foreign born labor.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Is seeing job.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
Decreases native born labor is seeing job increases because as
folks are being, deported those tasks still need to be.
Performed guess who's getting hired to perform those. Tasks now
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here's the crazy. Thing when you talk about entry level,
positions service, jobs semi skilled and unskilled, jobs you have
a large percentage of Minority american born potential workers who
are out of, jobs.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Some of whom want to go to.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
Work when you replace their foreign, replacement when you fill
those jobs with people who were on unemployment or who've
cycled off of, unemployment that is what is. Happening it's
a fascinating. Thing it's not, surprising it's not surprising even
(27:18):
a little, bit but that's what is. Happening Scott, bessant
The Treasury. Secretary five oh, Five jim was ON cnbc
talking about tariffs and the prediction on the effects tariffs would.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Have let's think about.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
This you can't have it both. Ways the terriff's going
to hurt the, economy then we're going to pick Up
according to THE, cbo if you want to TAKE cbo
scoring over the ten year, window we pick up two
point eight trillion in. Revenue and what we've seen so
far is that tiff tariffs haven't. Hurt the dog that
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didn't bark Was tariff's going to hurt the.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Economy we're going to hurt the.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Markets market had the fastest recovery ever aparol from a
fifteen percent, decline and.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
We're at new hives in the.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Market So i've made my career on listening to the,
market Not Wall street. Economists So i'm going to stick
with what the market's telling.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Me, now for those of you who followed me for
a long, time you know THAT i am within a
certain nuanced position not in favor of. Protectionism and a
tariff is a form of. Protection it is government imposing
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attacks whatever you want to call, it imposing, attacks and
whoever you want to, pay it still.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
A tax on the transaction of.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Commerce here is the problem with, this and this is
the problem with pure. Libertarianism it's one of the things
that frustrates people with the. Libertarians the pure libertarians are
for open. BORDERS i know, It we've had the. Conversation,
well the problem with. That the reality is if you
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have completely free and open borders to anyone who wants
to come, in we.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Would be overwhelmed.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
Tomorrow we would simply become the countries they, fled a
combination Of, Africa, mexico The Middle, East, china the poorest
parts Of Southeast, asia and then you don't have a
country anything like what you have. Today so there is
(29:44):
a nuance to. This there's a complexity to positions that
you would like to be able to say this is
a perfect principle and that's. It, likewise my opposition to
protectionism and to government intervention into commercial transactions domestic or
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in this case, international is that you're not operating in
an environment of free.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Trade to start.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
With if other countries are prohibiting our agricultural products from
being imported there and pricing them out of, viability they
are not engaged in free. Trade so the obvious answer
is if you want a sense of fairness or our,
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farmer you, say all, right well then we're not taking
your cheap crap in Here china and doing that has
enough of an impact on The chinese economy it has it.
Has folks here don't realize. This the media that's paid
off by The chinese government doesn't realize. This But china
is reeling right, now and the Fear american businesses are
(30:57):
now who had outsourced To, china a lot of them
aren't bringing that back. Home we'd like to believe they,
are some of them, are but most of them are
not bringing it back. Home they're just looking for another
place to get cheap. Labor so they're just going to
pull out Of china and use factories In. VIETNAM i,
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mean that's what's going to. Happen we all know that's
what's going to. Happen you might peck around the, edges
but that's what's going to, happen which is fine with.
ME i Believe china is our mortal. Enemy we just
had Another chinese spy caught just the other. Day he
was traveling in The Middle. East just had. Another there's
all of the world combined does not send as many
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spies to this. Country we keep catching, them and we
keep allowing. It why do we trade with these. People
i'm for crushing their. ECONOMY i am there are our enemies.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
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Allowed and.
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Community thank, YOU i mean good.
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