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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Varieshow is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
That a fake Russia investigation that interfered, That was a
terrible thing, that was actually a treasonous thing to do.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Those people should have been arrested. They made it up.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
They made up a problem with Russia that didn't exist.
Now they've all admitted it didn't exist.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It was just on to the next one.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever. The Russians
interfered in our election during the twenty sixteen cycle. They
did it with purpose, they did it with sophistication, they
did it with overwhelming technical efforts, and it was an
active measures campaign driven from the top of that government.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
There is no fuzz on that.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
It is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community,
and the members of this committee have seeing the intelligence.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
It's not a close call.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
That happened.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
That's about as unfake as you can possibly get and
is very very serious. Which is why it's so refreshing
to see a bipartisan focus on that, because this is
about America, not about any pic of party.
Speaker 7 (01:23):
I'll be honest with you. When you're talking about cybersecurity,
a lot of it is classified, and we're not going
to provide it because the way we catch folks is
by knowing certain things about them that they may not
want us to know. And if we're going to monitor
this stuff effectively going forward, we don't want them to know.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Him Comy, this is whose daughter was fired the other day, unless.
Speaker 8 (01:48):
I think Comy and I think his daughter for that matter,
are going to figure prominently into the crimes that were
committed against Donald Trump. How can you imagine Trump wins
in twenty sixteen because of you.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
You beat them. They never believed you could do it.
So what do they do?
Speaker 8 (02:07):
They impeach him twice, They set up and entrapped the
January sixth folks after they steal the twenty twenty election.
Look at all the things, all the things they did,
and yet in twenty twenty four you came back. Trump
couldn't win without you. So here's Jim Comey in twenty seventeen.
(02:30):
So Trump has won the White House. The left and
the deep state and the media are reeling. They're on
their heels, and they're talking about election interference because because
Donald Trump couldn't have won without election interfering. Putin had
to win the election for him. There are not enough
of you to win. That's what they That's the lie
(02:52):
they told. That is the lie they told. They told
it again and again and again. And yet Jim Comey
knew that Hillary Clinton had used a private email server
while she was Secretary of State. Remember that story. This
is credit Chicago one ray On X for the package.
(03:17):
There's a video package that goes with it. I wish
I could share that with you, but we're an audio medium.
But trust me on it.
Speaker 9 (03:22):
Nothing and I will underscore nothing that I was sent
or that I sent was marked classified.
Speaker 10 (03:30):
Secretary Clinton said, I did not email any classified material
to anyone on my email.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
There is no classified material. Was that true?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
There was classified material email?
Speaker 9 (03:39):
I never sent nor received any information that was classified
at the time it was sent and received.
Speaker 10 (03:45):
Sirct Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her emails,
either sent or received.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Was that true?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
That's not true, And ten emails in fifty two email
chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain
classify information at the time they were sent or received.
Speaker 9 (04:04):
When I got to work as Secretary of State, I
opted for convenience to use my personal email account because
I thought it would be easier to carry just one
device for my work and for my personal emails instead
of two.
Speaker 10 (04:19):
Sector Clinton said, you used just one device.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Was that true?
Speaker 5 (04:24):
She used multiple devices during the four years of her
term as Secretary of State.
Speaker 9 (04:30):
I didn't have to turn over anything. I chose to
turnover fifty five thousand pages of my email, but we
turned over everything that was work related, every single thing.
Speaker 10 (04:42):
Sec to Clinton said all work related emails were returned
to the State Department.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Was that true.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
No, we found work related emails thousands that were not returned.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
To the little what like with a cloth or something
that well dell.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You get a subpoena, and after getting the subpoena, you
delete thirty three thousand emails and then usd.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
Washerm Everything he just said is absolutely false.
Speaker 10 (05:06):
Sector Clinton said, neither she nor anyone else deleted work
related emails from her personal account.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Was that true.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
The email software was removed, that didn't remove the email content.
The effect was that millions of email fragments ended up
in the server's unused or slack space, and this helped
us recover work related emails that were not among the
thirty thousand that were produced to State.
Speaker 9 (05:31):
We went through a thorough process to identify all of
my work related emails and deliver them to the State
Department sectain.
Speaker 10 (05:41):
Clinton said her lawyers read every one of the emails
and were overly inclusive. Did her lawyers read the email
content individually?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Now, although there is evidence of potential violations of the
statutes regarding the handling of class of information, our judgment
is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.
Speaker 11 (06:02):
Did Donald Trump obstruct justice?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
As you read.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The incidences as mother list about, Well, I think.
Speaker 9 (06:11):
There's enough there that any other person who had engaged
in those acts would certainly have been indicted.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
And then finally Hillary Clinton joined the hags of the
view and said, there was no denying that the Russians
interfered with the twenty sixteen election. Remember she blamed women
who listened to their husbands. Remember all the people she blamed,
But at the end of it all, she blamed the
Russians had interfered with the election. She knew that was
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a lie.
Speaker 9 (06:47):
And whether or not there's fire, we need to figure
it out.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
But here is what's important.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
Put the investigation into Trump, his associates and everybody else
to one side. There is no denying that the Russians
interfered in the election, whether or not they had willing
or unwitting help from the Trump team, they interfered, and
they did so to help him and hurt me, and
they did so to destabilize our democracy.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And they have not stopped.
Speaker 9 (07:16):
I mean, there's been enough public testimony before Congress now
by very distinguished, experienced intelligence professionals.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Who all say the same thing.
Speaker 9 (07:27):
This is a clear and present danger to our country.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And I think it's important. And I would say this.
Speaker 9 (07:35):
If the roles were reversed, if I had won the
Electoral College and I were in the White House and.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
The Intelligence Services.
Speaker 9 (07:42):
I've served with them, I've worked with them, I've read
their analysis both on the Senate Armed Services Committee and
as Secretary of State. You know, they don't always get
it right, but these are patriotic, hard working, dedicated men
and women.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
And if they will come to me and told me,
you know, we.
Speaker 9 (08:01):
Believe that this election was interfered with, we believe that
it was influenced, and we believe they are still trying
to get into our systems, I would have stopped at nothing.
I would have stood up and in front of the
country said, even if it advantaged me, I am not
going to rest until we.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Know exactly what happened to This is the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Locked and loaded, didn't load it, LU didn't.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Own survivor. Marcus Petrol is our guest. Welcome to the program, sir,
Thank you, honored to have you. As always, I called
to check and see how you were doing. Texted to
check and see how you were doing. And you and
Morgan were in Kerville. As what are you doing there?
Speaker 6 (08:47):
You said, Dives, why were you there?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, after that storm had come through there. I had
never been to that particular area and I didn't know
what was back there, and I didn't really realize how
many people were affected and how many people that.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Were close to me were affected by that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So the phone call started coming out that our babies
were in trouble. And it's different when adults. And I
don't know why that is the way it is, but
it just is.
Speaker 11 (09:21):
And anyone who has children knows this feeling. It's something
that comes on to you after you have kids.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But if anybody's kids are in trouble, and when this
phone call started rattling in, they needed an all hands
on that kind of deal.
Speaker 11 (09:35):
So we just packed up and rolled.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
When you pack up it at old what do you
pack up for a situation like that?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, So I have a go bag that's prepared at
all times, sits in the toolbox my truck, and then
I have one actually in the garage. But it's a
natural disaster kind of if you live in Texas, you
live in Houston. Every time a hurricane comes through or
our city gets sacked by something like that, everyone usually
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has an outfit that they wear for days. If a
minimalistic approached anything, it's basically just one layer, two layers
of clothes, a toothbrush, and the fresh change of socks
and just get out the door and get there and
go from there. Because in a situation like that, the
only thing that you really need is a human being,
is sustenance, and that's just food and water, and that
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was provided when.
Speaker 11 (10:28):
We got there.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
So you and Morgan rode together.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
He rolled out first. He rolled out Saturday morning, and
I rolled out Sunday.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
After church.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I went in and got the prayer, do some up
to the Almighty and tell him what we were about to.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Do, and where did y'all muster?
Speaker 11 (10:47):
So we rolled up at.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
There, a youth center in Curbville, and that's where all
the leadership and the headshit had rolled into and we're
setting up shop in there, and that's the first place
that we.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Were into and then what happens from there? How do
you get dispatched from there?
Speaker 12 (11:05):
So we were standing up kind of beside the wall
there and when Morgan got in, he there was a
I mean when I say all hands on deck, you
couldn't believe who showed up there.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I mean, every law enforcement agency that we had was
represented in that. They call it the HQ or the
talk depends on what branch of service you're in. We
all have different names and acronyms for what that was,
but it's basically where the leadership, all the computer systems
and everyone checks in and we muster up in the
morning to get your marching orders, basically where you're going
to go on the river, who you're going to go with,
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and what you're going to do. And in the beginning,
when things are getting set up, it was kind of
a it was kind of a hodgepodge that everything was
coming to a kind of into formation. So Morgan linked
up with a Curville Country swat team, and let me
tell you about a bunch of badasses.
Speaker 11 (11:58):
They are. I mean, them guys getting it done.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
If I could give any thanks, appreciation and praise, it'd
be it definitely be to them as well. I mean
there's there's we'll get into who all showed up out there.
But those guys were rocking and rolling and they were
their their sole purpose was transport. So every time that
we found a body, they would get called in to
transport it to the the Emmy.
Speaker 11 (12:23):
So he was riding around with them.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
For the for the first couple of days, and then
I was a mystic in the water.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Was the water still flowing pretty heavy at that point?
Speaker 11 (12:38):
No, I mean it had come down back into the banks.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
That was.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That was the crazy thing about it, mikeel When we
rolled into town, and I couldn't say something.
Speaker 11 (12:47):
Anybody who was out there knows and saw this thing.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
But a minute I rolled in, I was right behind Morgan.
The damage, this kind of it was all through the
river and up the river banks and over the road
up probably about two three hundred yards into the houses.
And the first thing I saw, and I never seen
anything like this there was If you ask anybody who
was there I don't know about this thing. There was
a guard rail that had been twisted so tired it
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looked like a twizzler stick, like somebody had done it
on purpose.
Speaker 11 (13:19):
And I mean, it was it was something that you
had to stare at. It was.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
It was kind of unbelievable. And then once you rolled
in there, the cars were.
Speaker 11 (13:25):
Everywhere, and you could tell that the debris.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Field had flushed over over and spilled into the houses
because most of them had been torn.
Speaker 11 (13:36):
And it's like.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
The water got inside of there and spun around and
then kicked everything out the sidewalk, including the sidewalk, and
the river had gone back down into its normal capacity
and was still flowing pretty good, but it wasn't like
It's kind of hard to fathom what it must have
been like when that thing was rolling through there because
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of the damage and bro there was a dumpster that
looked like somebody had crumpled up a piece of foil
and threw it in the corner, And then there were
cars buried completely under the river, and then in trees
there was a brand new four Mustang. It was black
convertible and it was standing on its nose, perched up
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in one of those cypress trees, or three or four
of them actually, and then I remember the one of
the first ones I saw. The only reason we knew
was a BMW because I had a rim on it
and you could see the BMW signal. And it didn't
look like somebody had put it in a car crunch
or it was in a car wreck. It looked like
somebody had grabbed it with one of those excavators and
thrown it into a multi machine and then spit it
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back out and did it again.
Speaker 11 (14:41):
So the violence of.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
The water must have been absolutely substantial.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I saw a picture, Marcus. The trell is our guest, Marcus.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
I saw a picture of somebody that had the good
sense to take this photo to give the perspective. And
it showed a man who was six feet tall, and
then he raised his hand.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Up above his head as high as he could go.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
And it showed that, so you figure in what seven
and a half eight feet And then it showed where
the water had carried something that got hung up in
a tree that was over twenty feet high, and you
imagine what it must have been like. I have read
every report I can possibly find in print about what
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people went through who survived and were able to tell it.
I wish so many other people could have told their stories,
but they didn't survive.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
To imagine what it was like.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
There was a guy with Texas Monthly that they're in
a house that's up on stilts fourteen feet high, and
the house literally just gets ripped off the stilts and
before they know it, they're rushing down the river.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
They get out and they get up on top of it.
And you know, I don't have a frame of reference.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
You know, you're a Navy seal, you've trained, you've gone underwater,
you've done all these things. I have no frame of
reference to be able to even process what the heck's
going on. Marcus the Treil's our guests more.
Speaker 12 (16:03):
Than him coming up at least trash Keith rolling around.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Damn it all right, this is Mark Chestnut. Enjoyed az
our of talk radio as awful as the Kerrville floods were.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
And you know, we use that for shorthand I want
to be clear there were other counties who suffered terribly,
but Kerrville itself was hit so hard, and a lot
of folks in Houston especially knew many of the families
at Camp Mystic and Camp Lahunta. I know we did,
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and I know, based on emails you sent, many of
you did as well, and so it just hits home
even more so. I spoke to Pat Green this weekend
and he was in Houston for his brother's funeral.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
His brother, his brother's sister, and their kids.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
So you know, when the headlines are gone and the
funerals continue and the recoveries continue, those families will suffer.
As a number of you have emailed, there is no closure.
It's just another step. There's time, things are different, but
there is no actual closure.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
A number of folks email me to tell me that.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
So Marcus the trail, like so many people, and his
brother Morgan, the congressmen were there.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
To help in any way they could. I know that
just there.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
He won't like the word, but celebrity status notoriety meant
a lot to a number of people, because I heard
from people, Hey, the la Treill brothers are here. Most
people didn't know which one was which because they're twins.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
Because Morgan's skinnier now and Marcus has more facial hair,
it's a lot easier to tell them apart. But I
know that that meant a lot to other people that
they were there, and a number of other people were
so many law enforcement came from across the country.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
As Marcus said, Marcus, you were.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Talking about being there at Camp Mystic and seeing what
had happened, and that's where we lost the most lives
in one single spot. If you would continue kind of
with what you saw there, it's hard to believe, you know,
this one hundred year old facilities, so many traditions, so
much legacy going through that place. So many girls that
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went on to be moms and grandmothers and civic leaders
and political leaders and educators went through that place. There's
a lot of tradition there.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You can see that too.
Speaker 11 (18:45):
There definitely a legacy camp.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
You could feel that when you went in there. And
let me tell you something, when when we got our
footing in there and we were there to support those
that were supporting and when the first thing you saw
was the DPS when they came in and locked the
roads down. And usually when I'm having to deal with
the DPS because I've been doing something wrong right and
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I'm using the trouble, they were so professional and they
locked that stuff down, and then the game wardens showed up.
And when they showed up, they started doing their thing.
They were working the rivers and again I usually don't
run into them unless I'm trying to get away with something,
and they were awesome, and they started bringing in the
cadaver dogs.
Speaker 11 (19:27):
Now the only way we.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Got anything done because we started with our hands with shovels,
and the civilians were in there with chainsaws, and then
the cadaver dogs showed up and started spotting the bodies.
And I don't know if a lot of people are
familiar with excavators, and what an excavator.
Speaker 11 (19:43):
Is is the track vehicle has a huge arm on it.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
When those boys showed up, those excavator drivers, it was.
Speaker 11 (19:49):
A game changer. They won't ever get any credit. Let
me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
There was this country boy sitting on one of those
excavators and his wife was with him, and she sat
on the outside of that much on the top of it,
with her arms on that rail, laser locked, laser locked
on those piles that we were uncovering, because they would
come in there and a great excavator driver is worth
more money than anything, and he would scratch the surface
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so not to disrupt or do any more damage to
any of those bodies, and she would see a piece
of clothing or something and stop all movement.
Speaker 11 (20:23):
And we'd go in there and hit the pile.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Pull out some shoes or clothes or something like that, and.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
Then she'd get back. She didn't move all day.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
She sat on the outside of the machine all day.
And let me tell you something, those excavator drivers and
those skid steer drivers. Thank God for country Rednecks. They're
one of the best blessings that Texas ever had in
the United States.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
They were when they show up, they are all business.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
No one ever focuses on them. But you want to know,
the people who came in and made the difference was
those excavator boys and those skid steer drivers and those
cadaver guys. And then that in itself, it was just
an absolute game changer. And then, oh my god, man,
the Christians showed up, and I'm talking about the Rednecks
that had the cutoff wranglers and the rock and roll
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T shirt with a net cutout right, and they would
throw up.
Speaker 11 (21:12):
The barbecue pits and sit there day and no one
ever paid for any food. You didn't pay for any water.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It was just it was kind of a utopia on
the outside of it. And then when you walked into
the valley to go to work, it's like you knew
when you got out of there there was somebody that
had your back. Everyone was there for the same purpose,
and it was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
The camaraderie.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
God bless Texas. Man, I don't have I still don't
have vocabulary to tell you how wonderful. But when you
had the people and the police and everybody working in Unison,
and I think the only time that ever happened is
when we go through tragedy. I mean, most everybody else
is kind of dealing with their lives day to day,
and then the police are there to help us stay
in the in the lanes, trying to get through our lives.
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But man, when we come together, it was a force
to be reckoned with. That in itself is what allowed
you to get in there every single day because you
saw people from all walks of life in there for
a common purpose.
Speaker 11 (22:11):
Everybody was I mean, everybody's.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Getting along and they won't any problems, and it was
just amazing, amazing to see that.
Speaker 11 (22:17):
And I'll never be able.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
To express my thanks to those those excavator drivers.
Speaker 11 (22:23):
I mean them country boys.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm talking about the ones that were on their daddy
was an excavator driver, and they were sitting on their lap,
you know, at four years old, learning the controls on
that thing.
Speaker 11 (22:31):
Because when they.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Would maneuver in through those cypress trees on the side
of those rock ledges, the debris field was so extensive
that that's what was keith, that was what was slow
in the paste. And when they got in there with
those cadaver dogs, it was just a game changer.
Speaker 11 (22:47):
It was an absolute game changer.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I mean, you won't be able to thank them enough.
If anybody deserves praise, it's those It's the police officers
and them country boys on those machines.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
For sure, were any it Marcus Latrell is our guest.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Where any of the family members there alongside y'all?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Did you? Did you spot them during all of this,
because I know that had to be tough.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yes, their absolutely. They came into Mystic while I was
standing in there, and there was there was people at
Camp Mystic in itself that had kind of frontline control
with them.
Speaker 11 (23:23):
Okay, so we started.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
They wanted us to collect their valuables and we really
weren't doing that in the beginning, because that was the
hardest part. If you want to know what I thought
was the most difficult is their stuff was everywhere down
the river. So you would find stuff with their trunks
with their names on it, or their little CD cases
or their towels, and then they had their shorts and
stuff like that, and all had their names in it.
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And we were hunting down they wanted. There's Teddy Bears
in particular that we were after. It's just kind of
anything that we could find of theirs to bring to
bring back to them was because the anticipation was worked.
It's kind of like getting into a fight before the
fight is what's worse. I mean, so we're you're walking
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around and you're hoping you find something, but then you're
hoping you don't find something.
Speaker 11 (24:09):
That kind of mentality.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
But the whole time you're doing that, you're seeing evidence
that they're there. It's like you know that it was
brewing up, and we collected as much as that as
we possibly could for the families, and you know it.
Speaker 11 (24:25):
As well as I do.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I mean, our Texas we've been through so much in
the last twenty years that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
It's just you don't know what to say to them.
Speaker 11 (24:31):
You just want to be there for him.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Marcus trails. I guess can you hang for one more seconds? Yes,
take a bak.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Jomay.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Marcus Fatrell is our guest, because I don't know if
you've seen this photo.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
The Associated Press put it out.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
The caption that the chronicle ran with it says, a
sheriff's deputy pauses.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
While combing through the banks. Let me see if I
can go back to that.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
While combing through the banks of the Guadalupe River near
Camp Mystic Saturday, July fifth, twent after a flash floods
went through the area. And it's a guy who's biceps
are as big as my legs, and he has he's real,
he's real, sun tanned, his black hair.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
He looks like he could be Hispanic or Samoe.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
And you can't tell because his hands are over his
eyes and he's he's carrying, I don't know, some sort
of huge stick in his right hand. He's law enforcement.
He's got his gear on. I you seen that picture,
but it's one of the most poignant pictures to come
out of all this. And I guess my question is
when you guys step back away from the families and
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we're talking amongst yourselves. What what did y'all notice about
what this storm had done to this area?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, well, let's at you tell you that the largest,
strongest men among us can get broken down by something,
especially when it comes to the little ones. And I
was fortunate enough to be there was a bunch of
seals there and that stuff. Guys, and we kind of
migrated towards each other, and we all stayed at this
camp up the road called Camp Baltimore. That's sounds like
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something out of a Harry Potter movie, that's actually what
it was. So thank thank them for that, Thank you
for letting us stay up there. And then we would
migrate down into the town and the hunt. There was
a church there, a Baptist church that we would all
rally up at. And one of the saving graces that
we had was at the end of the day we
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got to go over outside of the valley and get
into some air conditioning, had a hot shower and a
great meal, and then we would all kind of we would.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
Talk like seals, are we're good at this because we'll
just talk.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
We just start talking about some stuff and get that
stuff off our chests and what kind of what's in
our brain. We don't hold that in and that is
the absolute blessing about being able to.
Speaker 11 (27:00):
Have those guys around each other. We can do that.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We also bled into the civilians to help out with
that kind of how we cope. But you can tell
that each day that went by, it was kind of
it would layer more and more and more, especially when
we were when we find the little one, because everyone
knew when that.
Speaker 11 (27:18):
When that happened and you.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Could feel that resonate through the camp, there was an
elation like, great, we found one. But then it was like, oh,
we found another one, and it was as time progress
and just kind of you could tell like getting onto some.
Speaker 11 (27:33):
Of the guys a little bit. For sure. Well the show,
I mean, I don't care how strong you are.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
It happens, yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm sure you're a
very different man in twenty twenty five than you were
twenty years ago in five when Operation Red Wings happened.
I mean, you start thinking about the world and the
next generation now that you have children, as you do.
I know, I'm a very I drive differently, I take
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chances differ differently.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I look at my health differently.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
I'm I'm a different person, and we look at the
world differently. When when it comes to children. Thank God
for it. I think God plants that set in us.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh, it has to be right, it has to be
You can't. I don't know if, especially our generation, if
we didn't make the transition, there's no way we would
we could carry this thing on.
Speaker 11 (28:19):
We could. I don't think we could get it done.
We're we're just different.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
All the wars and pandemics and everything that we had
to go through. Eventually we had the transition and grow
up and then there, you know, there is a weakness
or a vulnerability I think now inside of us, especially
like with our generation, we.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
Didn't have that at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
We you know, go as hard as you can, hopefully
you die early. And now we have the kids and
the responsibility of our country and our state Texas. I mean,
it's just kind of like we got to take this
thing over and when you when you step into that breach,
there's vulnerabilities. I absolutely feel that I've killed that guy
that that was in the wars. He's I'm not very
I don't have any of that left in me.
Speaker 11 (28:57):
Really.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I remember it, But I am, just like you said,
completely different, and I think we all had to make
that transition.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Can't help but think about the woman that you talked about,
because she will her name and story will be lost
to history. But the wife who never expected herself. I
don't she stay at home wife, or she was off
from work or whatever. And there she is with her
husband whose name nobody knows, and he's on the excavator
and she's out there focused and nobody's patting her on
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the back other than you now, and we don't know
her name. And I just think how many people did
things like that, and through every talent they had that day,
that moment that families will never get to thank them.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
And now they're back in Beaumont.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Or Willis or wherever it is they live, living their lives,
and no one will realize what a hero that person was.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
At that moment.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
There was people out there. There was one guy named Dave,
had this huge chainsaw. Everyone knows who he is, and
then there was a dog named Dale, Diver Dale and
you can you'll never forget him. And so that guy
on that excavator with his wife, and I wouldn't know
if they wanted me to.
Speaker 11 (30:11):
I will never.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
You.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
You couldn't even believe what this what that looked like.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
She sat there the entire laser for we, all.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
The seals, we were just kind of sitting there and
the rest of those that stuff guys just watching that
go down, watching him dig that stuff out, and watching
her sit there. And I'm talking about if if she
even laid eyes on anything in those piles, she's stopped
all all movement, and we'd have to go out there.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
And she didn't get help the excavator and get onto us,
but get in.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
There and get down on this man rug, let you know.
And and she never said anything. I mean she she
never said a word. And it was just all up
and down the river with us integrating into them, from
the police officers and the DPS and the game mornings.
Speaker 11 (30:54):
I can't say nothing about.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
The game warnings, man uh and what they did, and
then the state police in there and all the volunteers.
Speaker 11 (31:02):
I mean, God bless Texas.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
And our people, because when the Seals came in there,
we were just kidding. I remember us talking about how
I actually felt It's the first time in a long
time that I have felt good again. And I know
it sounds weird because I have the greatest life ever,
but there's a feeling that goes when you're in that
in that environment that we were trained for, and it
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rejuvenated my life into where just reminded me how thankful
I am to have all this, and especially have those guys,
those teammates of mine and showed up there and they
were coming in left and right and doing that and
then just getting out of dodge afterwards, never saying a word.
Speaker 11 (31:40):
And what you said is true. There's so many people
that came in there and did that. You won't even
know who they are, but we'll remember them. You'll never
forget them. And we gave them all nicknames or you
remember what they did even if you don't remember their name.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
But it's it's forever burned inside of our brains and
we talk about it all the time.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
You I don't know if you remember this because you
were in the thick of it.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
But when I found out ADPs trooper, a friend of mine,
Stephen Woodard, said you were there, and I reached out
and said, hey, thank you to.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
You and you and Morgan for being there.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Make sure everybody there knows we appreciate them and you
for being out there and doing that, and you said
I was born for this. I really do believe God
plants in each one of us a skill set, and
there are certain people. We all have to do our part,
but there are certain people that are drawn to a
moment like this because you've got to skill, the talent,
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the ability to push through it when maybe the rest
of us wouldn't have been able to handle some of
what you've seen and done in your life.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
But it's fantastic and you're right.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
The message of this is it really is the best
of Texas. It's the best of our people, and it
takes a.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Tough moment like this to remind us of it. We
love you, Marcus a trail. Thank you brother.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
You know, I think about that woman there with her husband,
and when people say, you know, why don't you get
depressed for the future, bark because.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
That woman went back.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
Maybe she's maybe she backs groceries, maybe she's the teller
at the bank, Maybe she's somebody's secretary.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Maybe she's a school teacher, maybe she owns a small business.
Maybe she's a stay at home mom.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Maybe we'll never know what they're out there, and you
don't know they're out there. You don't see the goodness
until something like this calls it.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Out and help.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
Thank you, and good night.
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Varieshow is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
That a fake Russia investigation that interfered, That was a
terrible thing, that was actually a treasonous thing to do.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Those people should have been arrested. They made it up.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
They made up a problem with Russia that didn't exist.
Now they've all admitted it didn't exist.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It was just on to the next one.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever. The Russians
interfered in our election during the twenty sixteen cycle. They
did it with purpose, they did it with sophistication, they
did it with overwhelming technical efforts, and it was an
active measures campaign driven from the top of that government.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
There is no fuzz on that.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
It is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community,
and the members of this committee have seeing the intelligence.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
It's not a close call.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
That happened.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
That's about as unfake as you can possibly get and
is very very serious. Which is why it's so refreshing
to see a bipartisan focus on that, because this is
about America, not about any pic of party.
Speaker 7 (01:23):
I'll be honest with you. When you're talking about cybersecurity,
a lot of it is classified, and we're not going
to provide it because the way we catch folks is
by knowing certain things about them that they may not
want us to know. And if we're going to monitor
this stuff effectively going forward, we don't want them to know.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Him Comy, this is whose daughter was fired the other day, unless.
Speaker 8 (01:48):
I think Comy and I think his daughter for that matter,
are going to figure prominently into the crimes that were
committed against Donald Trump. How can you imagine Trump wins
in twenty sixteen because of you.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
You beat them. They never believed you could do it.
So what do they do?
Speaker 8 (02:07):
They impeach him twice, They set up and entrapped the
January sixth folks after they steal the twenty twenty election.
Look at all the things, all the things they did,
and yet in twenty twenty four you came back. Trump
couldn't win without you. So here's Jim Comey in twenty seventeen.
(02:30):
So Trump has won the White House. The left and
the deep state and the media are reeling. They're on
their heels, and they're talking about election interference because because
Donald Trump couldn't have won without election interfering. Putin had
to win the election for him. There are not enough
of you to win. That's what they That's the lie
(02:52):
they told. That is the lie they told. They told
it again and again and again. And yet Jim Comey
knew that Hillary Clinton had used a private email server
while she was Secretary of State. Remember that story. This
is credit Chicago one ray On X for the package.
(03:17):
There's a video package that goes with it. I wish
I could share that with you, but we're an audio medium.
But trust me on it.
Speaker 9 (03:22):
Nothing and I will underscore nothing that I was sent
or that I sent was marked classified.
Speaker 10 (03:30):
Secretary Clinton said, I did not email any classified material
to anyone on my email.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
There is no classified material. Was that true?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
There was classified material email?
Speaker 9 (03:39):
I never sent nor received any information that was classified
at the time it was sent and received.
Speaker 10 (03:45):
Sirct Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her emails,
either sent or received.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Was that true?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
That's not true, And ten emails in fifty two email
chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain
classify information at the time they were sent or received.
Speaker 9 (04:04):
When I got to work as Secretary of State, I
opted for convenience to use my personal email account because
I thought it would be easier to carry just one
device for my work and for my personal emails instead
of two.
Speaker 10 (04:19):
Sector Clinton said, you used just one device.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Was that true?
Speaker 5 (04:24):
She used multiple devices during the four years of her
term as Secretary of State.
Speaker 9 (04:30):
I didn't have to turn over anything. I chose to
turnover fifty five thousand pages of my email, but we
turned over everything that was work related, every single thing.
Speaker 10 (04:42):
Sec to Clinton said all work related emails were returned
to the State Department.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Was that true.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
No, we found work related emails thousands that were not returned.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
To the little what like with a cloth or something
that well dell.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You get a subpoena, and after getting the subpoena, you
delete thirty three thousand emails and then usd.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
Washerm Everything he just said is absolutely false.
Speaker 10 (05:06):
Sector Clinton said, neither she nor anyone else deleted work
related emails from her personal account.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Was that true.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
The email software was removed, that didn't remove the email content.
The effect was that millions of email fragments ended up
in the server's unused or slack space, and this helped
us recover work related emails that were not among the
thirty thousand that were produced to State.
Speaker 9 (05:31):
We went through a thorough process to identify all of
my work related emails and deliver them to the State
Department sectain.
Speaker 10 (05:41):
Clinton said her lawyers read every one of the emails
and were overly inclusive. Did her lawyers read the email
content individually?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Now, although there is evidence of potential violations of the
statutes regarding the handling of class of information, our judgment
is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.
Speaker 11 (06:02):
Did Donald Trump obstruct justice?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
As you read.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The incidences as mother list about, Well, I think.
Speaker 9 (06:11):
There's enough there that any other person who had engaged
in those acts would certainly have been indicted.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
And then finally Hillary Clinton joined the hags of the
view and said, there was no denying that the Russians
interfered with the twenty sixteen election. Remember she blamed women
who listened to their husbands. Remember all the people she blamed,
But at the end of it all, she blamed the
Russians had interfered with the election. She knew that was
(06:46):
a lie.
Speaker 9 (06:47):
And whether or not there's fire, we need to figure
it out.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
But here is what's important.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
Put the investigation into Trump, his associates and everybody else
to one side. There is no denying that the Russians
interfered in the election, whether or not they had willing
or unwitting help from the Trump team, they interfered, and
they did so to help him and hurt me, and
they did so to destabilize our democracy.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And they have not stopped.
Speaker 9 (07:16):
I mean, there's been enough public testimony before Congress now
by very distinguished, experienced intelligence professionals.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Who all say the same thing.
Speaker 9 (07:27):
This is a clear and present danger to our country.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And I think it's important. And I would say this.
Speaker 9 (07:35):
If the roles were reversed, if I had won the
Electoral College and I were in the White House and.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
The Intelligence Services.
Speaker 9 (07:42):
I've served with them, I've worked with them, I've read
their analysis both on the Senate Armed Services Committee and
as Secretary of State. You know, they don't always get
it right, but these are patriotic, hard working, dedicated men
and women.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
And if they will come to me and told me,
you know, we.
Speaker 9 (08:01):
Believe that this election was interfered with, we believe that
it was influenced, and we believe they are still trying
to get into our systems, I would have stopped at nothing.
I would have stood up and in front of the
country said, even if it advantaged me, I am not
going to rest until we.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Know exactly what happened to This is the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Locked and loaded, didn't load it, LU didn't.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Own survivor. Marcus Petrol is our guest. Welcome to the program, sir,
Thank you, honored to have you. As always, I called
to check and see how you were doing. Texted to
check and see how you were doing. And you and
Morgan were in Kerville. As what are you doing there?
Speaker 6 (08:47):
You said, Dives, why were you there?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, after that storm had come through there. I had
never been to that particular area and I didn't know
what was back there, and I didn't really realize how
many people were affected and how many people that.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Were close to me were affected by that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So the phone call started coming out that our babies
were in trouble. And it's different when adults. And I
don't know why that is the way it is, but
it just is.
Speaker 11 (09:21):
And anyone who has children knows this feeling. It's something
that comes on to you after you have kids.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But if anybody's kids are in trouble, and when this
phone call started rattling in, they needed an all hands
on that kind of deal.
Speaker 11 (09:35):
So we just packed up and rolled.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
When you pack up it at old what do you
pack up for a situation like that?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, So I have a go bag that's prepared at
all times, sits in the toolbox my truck, and then
I have one actually in the garage. But it's a
natural disaster kind of if you live in Texas, you
live in Houston. Every time a hurricane comes through or
our city gets sacked by something like that, everyone usually
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has an outfit that they wear for days. If a
minimalistic approached anything, it's basically just one layer, two layers
of clothes, a toothbrush, and the fresh change of socks
and just get out the door and get there and
go from there. Because in a situation like that, the
only thing that you really need is a human being,
is sustenance, and that's just food and water, and that
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was provided when.
Speaker 11 (10:28):
We got there.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
So you and Morgan rode together.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
He rolled out first. He rolled out Saturday morning, and
I rolled out Sunday.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
After church.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I went in and got the prayer, do some up
to the Almighty and tell him what we were about to.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Do, and where did y'all muster?
Speaker 11 (10:47):
So we rolled up at.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
There, a youth center in Curbville, and that's where all
the leadership and the headshit had rolled into and we're
setting up shop in there, and that's the first place
that we.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Were into and then what happens from there? How do
you get dispatched from there?
Speaker 12 (11:05):
So we were standing up kind of beside the wall
there and when Morgan got in, he there was a
I mean when I say all hands on deck, you
couldn't believe who showed up there.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I mean, every law enforcement agency that we had was
represented in that. They call it the HQ or the
talk depends on what branch of service you're in. We
all have different names and acronyms for what that was,
but it's basically where the leadership, all the computer systems
and everyone checks in and we muster up in the
morning to get your marching orders, basically where you're going
to go on the river, who you're going to go with,
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and what you're going to do. And in the beginning,
when things are getting set up, it was kind of
a it was kind of a hodgepodge that everything was
coming to a kind of into formation. So Morgan linked
up with a Curville Country swat team, and let me
tell you about a bunch of badasses.
Speaker 11 (11:58):
They are. I mean, them guys getting it done.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
If I could give any thanks, appreciation and praise, it'd
be it definitely be to them as well. I mean
there's there's we'll get into who all showed up out there.
But those guys were rocking and rolling and they were
their their sole purpose was transport. So every time that
we found a body, they would get called in to
transport it to the the Emmy.
Speaker 11 (12:23):
So he was riding around with them.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
For the for the first couple of days, and then
I was a mystic in the water.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Was the water still flowing pretty heavy at that point?
Speaker 11 (12:38):
No, I mean it had come down back into the banks.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
That was.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That was the crazy thing about it, mikeel When we
rolled into town, and I couldn't say something.
Speaker 11 (12:47):
Anybody who was out there knows and saw this thing.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
But a minute I rolled in, I was right behind Morgan.
The damage, this kind of it was all through the
river and up the river banks and over the road
up probably about two three hundred yards into the houses.
And the first thing I saw, and I never seen
anything like this there was If you ask anybody who
was there I don't know about this thing. There was
a guard rail that had been twisted so tired it
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looked like a twizzler stick, like somebody had done it
on purpose.
Speaker 11 (13:19):
And I mean, it was it was something that you
had to stare at. It was.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
It was kind of unbelievable. And then once you rolled
in there, the cars were.
Speaker 11 (13:25):
Everywhere, and you could tell that the debris.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Field had flushed over over and spilled into the houses
because most of them had been torn.
Speaker 11 (13:36):
And it's like.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
The water got inside of there and spun around and
then kicked everything out the sidewalk, including the sidewalk, and
the river had gone back down into its normal capacity
and was still flowing pretty good, but it wasn't like
It's kind of hard to fathom what it must have
been like when that thing was rolling through there because
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of the damage and bro there was a dumpster that
looked like somebody had crumpled up a piece of foil
and threw it in the corner, And then there were
cars buried completely under the river, and then in trees
there was a brand new four Mustang. It was black
convertible and it was standing on its nose, perched up
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in one of those cypress trees, or three or four
of them actually, and then I remember the one of
the first ones I saw. The only reason we knew
was a BMW because I had a rim on it
and you could see the BMW signal. And it didn't
look like somebody had put it in a car crunch
or it was in a car wreck. It looked like
somebody had grabbed it with one of those excavators and
thrown it into a multi machine and then spit it
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back out and did it again.
Speaker 11 (14:41):
So the violence of.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
The water must have been absolutely substantial.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I saw a picture, Marcus. The trell is our guest, Marcus.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
I saw a picture of somebody that had the good
sense to take this photo to give the perspective. And
it showed a man who was six feet tall, and
then he raised his hand.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Up above his head as high as he could go.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
And it showed that, so you figure in what seven
and a half eight feet And then it showed where
the water had carried something that got hung up in
a tree that was over twenty feet high, and you
imagine what it must have been like. I have read
every report I can possibly find in print about what
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people went through who survived and were able to tell it.
I wish so many other people could have told their stories,
but they didn't survive.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
To imagine what it was like.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
There was a guy with Texas Monthly that they're in
a house that's up on stilts fourteen feet high, and
the house literally just gets ripped off the stilts and
before they know it, they're rushing down the river.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
They get out and they get up on top of it.
And you know, I don't have a frame of reference.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
You know, you're a Navy seal, you've trained, you've gone underwater,
you've done all these things. I have no frame of
reference to be able to even process what the heck's
going on. Marcus the Treil's our guests more.
Speaker 12 (16:03):
Than him coming up at least trash Keith rolling around.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Damn it all right, this is Mark Chestnut. Enjoyed az
our of talk radio as awful as the Kerrville floods were.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
And you know, we use that for shorthand I want
to be clear there were other counties who suffered terribly,
but Kerrville itself was hit so hard, and a lot
of folks in Houston especially knew many of the families
at Camp Mystic and Camp Lahunta. I know we did,
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and I know, based on emails you sent, many of
you did as well, and so it just hits home
even more so. I spoke to Pat Green this weekend
and he was in Houston for his brother's funeral.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
His brother, his brother's sister, and their kids.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
So you know, when the headlines are gone and the
funerals continue and the recoveries continue, those families will suffer.
As a number of you have emailed, there is no closure.
It's just another step. There's time, things are different, but
there is no actual closure.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
A number of folks email me to tell me that.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
So Marcus the trail, like so many people, and his
brother Morgan, the congressmen were there.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
To help in any way they could. I know that
just there.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
He won't like the word, but celebrity status notoriety meant
a lot to a number of people, because I heard
from people, Hey, the la Treill brothers are here. Most
people didn't know which one was which because they're twins.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
Because Morgan's skinnier now and Marcus has more facial hair,
it's a lot easier to tell them apart. But I
know that that meant a lot to other people that
they were there, and a number of other people were
so many law enforcement came from across the country.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
As Marcus said, Marcus, you were.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Talking about being there at Camp Mystic and seeing what
had happened, and that's where we lost the most lives
in one single spot. If you would continue kind of
with what you saw there, it's hard to believe, you know,
this one hundred year old facilities, so many traditions, so
much legacy going through that place. So many girls that
(18:33):
went on to be moms and grandmothers and civic leaders
and political leaders and educators went through that place. There's
a lot of tradition there.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You can see that too.
Speaker 11 (18:45):
There definitely a legacy camp.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
You could feel that when you went in there. And
let me tell you something, when when we got our
footing in there and we were there to support those
that were supporting and when the first thing you saw
was the DPS when they came in and locked the
roads down. And usually when I'm having to deal with
the DPS because I've been doing something wrong right and
(19:07):
I'm using the trouble, they were so professional and they
locked that stuff down, and then the game wardens showed up.
And when they showed up, they started doing their thing.
They were working the rivers and again I usually don't
run into them unless I'm trying to get away with something,
and they were awesome, and they started bringing in the
cadaver dogs.
Speaker 11 (19:27):
Now the only way we.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Got anything done because we started with our hands with shovels,
and the civilians were in there with chainsaws, and then
the cadaver dogs showed up and started spotting the bodies.
And I don't know if a lot of people are
familiar with excavators, and what an excavator.
Speaker 11 (19:43):
Is is the track vehicle has a huge arm on it.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
When those boys showed up, those excavator drivers, it was.
Speaker 11 (19:49):
A game changer. They won't ever get any credit. Let
me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
There was this country boy sitting on one of those
excavators and his wife was with him, and she sat
on the outside of that much on the top of it,
with her arms on that rail, laser locked, laser locked
on those piles that we were uncovering, because they would
come in there and a great excavator driver is worth
more money than anything, and he would scratch the surface
(20:15):
so not to disrupt or do any more damage to
any of those bodies, and she would see a piece
of clothing or something and stop all movement.
Speaker 11 (20:23):
And we'd go in there and hit the pile.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Pull out some shoes or clothes or something like that, and.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
Then she'd get back. She didn't move all day.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
She sat on the outside of the machine all day.
And let me tell you something, those excavator drivers and
those skid steer drivers. Thank God for country Rednecks. They're
one of the best blessings that Texas ever had in
the United States.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
They were when they show up, they are all business.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
No one ever focuses on them. But you want to know,
the people who came in and made the difference was
those excavator boys and those skid steer drivers and those
cadaver guys. And then that in itself, it was just
an absolute game changer. And then, oh my god, man,
the Christians showed up, and I'm talking about the Rednecks
that had the cutoff wranglers and the rock and roll
(21:09):
T shirt with a net cutout right, and they would
throw up.
Speaker 11 (21:12):
The barbecue pits and sit there day and no one
ever paid for any food. You didn't pay for any water.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It was just it was kind of a utopia on
the outside of it. And then when you walked into
the valley to go to work, it's like you knew
when you got out of there there was somebody that
had your back. Everyone was there for the same purpose,
and it was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
The camaraderie.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
God bless Texas. Man, I don't have I still don't
have vocabulary to tell you how wonderful. But when you
had the people and the police and everybody working in Unison,
and I think the only time that ever happened is
when we go through tragedy. I mean, most everybody else
is kind of dealing with their lives day to day,
and then the police are there to help us stay
in the in the lanes, trying to get through our lives.
(21:56):
But man, when we come together, it was a force
to be reckoned with. That in itself is what allowed
you to get in there every single day because you
saw people from all walks of life in there for
a common purpose.
Speaker 11 (22:11):
Everybody was I mean, everybody's.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Getting along and they won't any problems, and it was
just amazing, amazing to see that.
Speaker 11 (22:17):
And I'll never be able.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
To express my thanks to those those excavator drivers.
Speaker 11 (22:23):
I mean them country boys.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm talking about the ones that were on their daddy
was an excavator driver, and they were sitting on their lap,
you know, at four years old, learning the controls on
that thing.
Speaker 11 (22:31):
Because when they.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Would maneuver in through those cypress trees on the side
of those rock ledges, the debris field was so extensive
that that's what was keith, that was what was slow
in the paste. And when they got in there with
those cadaver dogs, it was just a game changer.
Speaker 11 (22:47):
It was an absolute game changer.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I mean, you won't be able to thank them enough.
If anybody deserves praise, it's those It's the police officers
and them country boys on those machines.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
For sure, were any it Marcus Latrell is our guest.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Where any of the family members there alongside y'all?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Did you? Did you spot them during all of this,
because I know that had to be tough.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yes, their absolutely. They came into Mystic while I was
standing in there, and there was there was people at
Camp Mystic in itself that had kind of frontline control
with them.
Speaker 11 (23:23):
Okay, so we started.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
They wanted us to collect their valuables and we really
weren't doing that in the beginning, because that was the
hardest part. If you want to know what I thought
was the most difficult is their stuff was everywhere down
the river. So you would find stuff with their trunks
with their names on it, or their little CD cases
or their towels, and then they had their shorts and
stuff like that, and all had their names in it.
(23:45):
And we were hunting down they wanted. There's Teddy Bears
in particular that we were after. It's just kind of
anything that we could find of theirs to bring to
bring back to them was because the anticipation was worked.
It's kind of like getting into a fight before the
fight is what's worse. I mean, so we're you're walking
(24:05):
around and you're hoping you find something, but then you're
hoping you don't find something.
Speaker 11 (24:09):
That kind of mentality.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
But the whole time you're doing that, you're seeing evidence
that they're there. It's like you know that it was
brewing up, and we collected as much as that as
we possibly could for the families, and you know it.
Speaker 11 (24:25):
As well as I do.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I mean, our Texas we've been through so much in
the last twenty years that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
It's just you don't know what to say to them.
Speaker 11 (24:31):
You just want to be there for him.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Marcus trails. I guess can you hang for one more seconds? Yes,
take a bak.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Jomay.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Marcus Fatrell is our guest, because I don't know if
you've seen this photo.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
The Associated Press put it out.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
The caption that the chronicle ran with it says, a
sheriff's deputy pauses.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
While combing through the banks. Let me see if I
can go back to that.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
While combing through the banks of the Guadalupe River near
Camp Mystic Saturday, July fifth, twent after a flash floods
went through the area. And it's a guy who's biceps
are as big as my legs, and he has he's real,
he's real, sun tanned, his black hair.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
He looks like he could be Hispanic or Samoe.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
And you can't tell because his hands are over his
eyes and he's he's carrying, I don't know, some sort
of huge stick in his right hand. He's law enforcement.
He's got his gear on. I you seen that picture,
but it's one of the most poignant pictures to come
out of all this. And I guess my question is
when you guys step back away from the families and
(25:48):
we're talking amongst yourselves. What what did y'all notice about
what this storm had done to this area?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, well, let's at you tell you that the largest,
strongest men among us can get broken down by something,
especially when it comes to the little ones. And I
was fortunate enough to be there was a bunch of
seals there and that stuff. Guys, and we kind of
migrated towards each other, and we all stayed at this
camp up the road called Camp Baltimore. That's sounds like
(26:19):
something out of a Harry Potter movie, that's actually what
it was. So thank thank them for that, Thank you
for letting us stay up there. And then we would
migrate down into the town and the hunt. There was
a church there, a Baptist church that we would all
rally up at. And one of the saving graces that
we had was at the end of the day we
(26:41):
got to go over outside of the valley and get
into some air conditioning, had a hot shower and a
great meal, and then we would all kind of we would.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
Talk like seals, are we're good at this because we'll
just talk.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
We just start talking about some stuff and get that
stuff off our chests and what kind of what's in
our brain. We don't hold that in and that is
the absolute blessing about being able to.
Speaker 11 (27:00):
Have those guys around each other. We can do that.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We also bled into the civilians to help out with
that kind of how we cope. But you can tell
that each day that went by, it was kind of
it would layer more and more and more, especially when
we were when we find the little one, because everyone
knew when that.
Speaker 11 (27:18):
When that happened and you.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Could feel that resonate through the camp, there was an
elation like, great, we found one. But then it was like, oh,
we found another one, and it was as time progress
and just kind of you could tell like getting onto some.
Speaker 11 (27:33):
Of the guys a little bit. For sure. Well the show,
I mean, I don't care how strong you are.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
It happens, yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm sure you're a
very different man in twenty twenty five than you were
twenty years ago in five when Operation Red Wings happened.
I mean, you start thinking about the world and the
next generation now that you have children, as you do.
I know, I'm a very I drive differently, I take
(27:59):
chances differ differently.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I look at my health differently.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
I'm I'm a different person, and we look at the
world differently. When when it comes to children. Thank God
for it. I think God plants that set in us.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh, it has to be right, it has to be
You can't. I don't know if, especially our generation, if
we didn't make the transition, there's no way we would
we could carry this thing on.
Speaker 11 (28:19):
We could. I don't think we could get it done.
We're we're just different.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
All the wars and pandemics and everything that we had
to go through. Eventually we had the transition and grow
up and then there, you know, there is a weakness
or a vulnerability I think now inside of us, especially
like with our generation, we.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
Didn't have that at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
We you know, go as hard as you can, hopefully
you die early. And now we have the kids and
the responsibility of our country and our state Texas. I mean,
it's just kind of like we got to take this
thing over and when you when you step into that breach,
there's vulnerabilities. I absolutely feel that I've killed that guy
that that was in the wars. He's I'm not very
I don't have any of that left in me.
Speaker 11 (28:57):
Really.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I remember it, But I am, just like you said,
completely different, and I think we all had to make
that transition.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Can't help but think about the woman that you talked about,
because she will her name and story will be lost
to history. But the wife who never expected herself. I
don't she stay at home wife, or she was off
from work or whatever. And there she is with her
husband whose name nobody knows, and he's on the excavator
and she's out there focused and nobody's patting her on
(29:29):
the back other than you now, and we don't know
her name. And I just think how many people did
things like that, and through every talent they had that day,
that moment that families will never get to thank them.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
And now they're back in Beaumont.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Or Willis or wherever it is they live, living their lives,
and no one will realize what a hero that person was.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
At that moment.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
There was people out there. There was one guy named Dave,
had this huge chainsaw. Everyone knows who he is, and
then there was a dog named Dale, Diver Dale and
you can you'll never forget him. And so that guy
on that excavator with his wife, and I wouldn't know
if they wanted me to.
Speaker 11 (30:11):
I will never.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
You.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
You couldn't even believe what this what that looked like.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
She sat there the entire laser for we, all.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
The seals, we were just kind of sitting there and
the rest of those that stuff guys just watching that
go down, watching him dig that stuff out, and watching
her sit there. And I'm talking about if if she
even laid eyes on anything in those piles, she's stopped
all all movement, and we'd have to go out there.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
And she didn't get help the excavator and get onto us,
but get in.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
There and get down on this man rug, let you know.
And and she never said anything. I mean she she
never said a word. And it was just all up
and down the river with us integrating into them, from
the police officers and the DPS and the game mornings.
Speaker 11 (30:54):
I can't say nothing about.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
The game warnings, man uh and what they did, and
then the state police in there and all the volunteers.
Speaker 11 (31:02):
I mean, God bless Texas.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
And our people, because when the Seals came in there,
we were just kidding. I remember us talking about how
I actually felt It's the first time in a long
time that I have felt good again. And I know
it sounds weird because I have the greatest life ever,
but there's a feeling that goes when you're in that
in that environment that we were trained for, and it
(31:24):
rejuvenated my life into where just reminded me how thankful
I am to have all this, and especially have those guys,
those teammates of mine and showed up there and they
were coming in left and right and doing that and
then just getting out of dodge afterwards, never saying a word.
Speaker 11 (31:40):
And what you said is true. There's so many people
that came in there and did that. You won't even
know who they are, but we'll remember them. You'll never
forget them. And we gave them all nicknames or you
remember what they did even if you don't remember their name.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
But it's it's forever burned inside of our brains and
we talk about it all the time.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
You I don't know if you remember this because you
were in the thick of it.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
But when I found out ADPs trooper, a friend of mine,
Stephen Woodard, said you were there, and I reached out
and said, hey, thank you to.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
You and you and Morgan for being there.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Make sure everybody there knows we appreciate them and you
for being out there and doing that, and you said
I was born for this. I really do believe God
plants in each one of us a skill set, and
there are certain people. We all have to do our part,
but there are certain people that are drawn to a
moment like this because you've got to skill, the talent,
(32:33):
the ability to push through it when maybe the rest
of us wouldn't have been able to handle some of
what you've seen and done in your life.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
But it's fantastic and you're right.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
The message of this is it really is the best
of Texas. It's the best of our people, and it
takes a.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Tough moment like this to remind us of it. We
love you, Marcus a trail. Thank you brother.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
You know, I think about that woman there with her husband,
and when people say, you know, why don't you get
depressed for the future, bark because.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
That woman went back.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
Maybe she's maybe she backs groceries, maybe she's the teller
at the bank, Maybe she's somebody's secretary.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Maybe she's a school teacher, maybe she owns a small business.
Maybe she's a stay at home mom.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Maybe we'll never know what they're out there, and you
don't know they're out there. You don't see the goodness
until something like this calls it.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Out and help.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
Thank you, and good night.
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