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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load. Michael
Verie Show is on the air. Selena Zico is our
guest her forthcoming book, which I hope you'll pre order today.

(00:23):
It is called Butler, The Untold Story of the near
Assassination of Donald Trump and the Fight for America's Heartland.
All right, Selena, I know it's in the book, and
we're going to buy the book, and we're gonna read
the book because you're a great writer in a great restarcher,
and it's going to be thorough. But what do we
need to know? I mean, I am I was never
a conspiracy theorist. I guess I can't say that I'm

(00:45):
not anymore. I now realize that a lot of those
conspiracy theorists are just the truth. A few months from happening.
There's no way that some random dude with everything we
know now shows up shoots the president, They blow his
head off, and he goes away with everything else we
know now, So spill it.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, we know about as much as we know about
Thomas Crook as we do about the Las Vegas shooter.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I knew you were going to say nothing, which.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Is nothing, and I well, while I believe there was
institutional failures all around, by the way, not by local
law enforcement. Local law enforcement was on top of everything
and they were questioning everything. Unfortunately, our institutions out of

(01:34):
DC and I'm not talking about the men and women
that were physically there. I'm talking about the men and
women that run things out of d C was incompetent
and disgraceful. But you know, I know that the local
law enforcement and that local FEDS are pouring and just

(01:59):
trying their best to figure this guy out.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
But he left.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
He's completely untraceable. There's nothing there. He's just like the
Las Vegas shooter. There's nothing there. And as frustrating as
it may be, I'm not quite sure when we find
us out, if we ever find us out.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
But if we can't find out something like this, when
we can find out so many other things, that necessarily
means it's being hidden from us, and that there have
to be very powerful forces at play to hide that
from us, because otherwise, you know, we can measure cal

(02:44):
farts in this country down to the centimeter. We know
everything about everything. We accidentally, you know, cocaine was accidentally
left in the White House, and we'll never know whose
it was, Well, that's not true. It's covered up right,
So who's covering this up right?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I wish I had the I wish I had the
details of knowledge to answer that question.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
But I still don't have the answer to that question.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
That's the most frustrating part of writing this book is
that there was this famous saying that Donald Rumsfeld said
it was known unknowns, and I think that's where we
are right now now. I don't know since Trump and
since his team is going to be taking over in January,

(03:28):
that will know more. I suspect that we will, but
under this administration, I don't know. I don't know that
that's going to happen. Like one of the biggest lessons
I think of this cycle is that people wanted to
elect the bull that would go into the china shop

(03:50):
and break it. They didn't want to elect someone who
would definitely make sure nothing, meaning our institutions weren't cracked
and you had to go start all over again. I
think that was the underlying sentiment of voters. And by
the way, it's not an angry sentiment. People misread this

(04:10):
election about being angry. No, it's about being hopeful of
something better. The understanding that there is something better on
the horizon. It's not by being these resentful, you know, angry,
pissed off, whatever word they want to attach to conservatives.
It is about being hopeful that something better will be

(04:31):
in its place.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
What an interesting way to say that, that is, that's
very very interesting, you know, the bull in the China shop.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I think that is the disconnect that the media, you know,
seeing n and MSNBC lose their mind because they say
Trump do this, and they in their crowd that's very upsetting.
But what they don't realize is we're sitting at home going,
you promise he really did that. You promise. For instance,
Matt Gates, they're going, Matt Gates is wild and crazy
and he doesn't respect tradition, and he's going to go

(05:08):
in there and destroy the Department of Justice. And we're
going you a promise. Pete Hegseth. He's a Fox News contributor,
he wasn't even a general. Yeah, that's what we love.
There's the disconnect. You people respect that which we don't.
You people don't respect that which we do. There's your disconnect.
There's more of us than there are of you. That's
a great revolt.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah. Yeah, they really don't understand that, and they don't
understand the hopeful part. They really missed that. They now,
I understand it because you know, I live in western Pennsylvania.
If I have a bias at all, it is geographical.
I understand the people that live in the middle of
somewhere in contrast to the people that run things in

(05:53):
the ten wealthiest counties in our country in New York
and Washington, DC.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
And that's where lies.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
That's where. If you know, if I have a superpower,
that's my superpower because of where I live, and I
understand people. But I also understand that they're not mad.
Like stop making people out to be these caricatures, you know,
like Yosemite Sam or Tasmanian Devil. Like that's there, that's there.

(06:22):
I'm using nineteen sixties cartoon references, but that's how they
talk about people the.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Moment, Sweetheart, If anytime you mentioned Yosemite Sam on our show,
you don't have to apologize for that. I mean, Huckleberry Hound,
Yosemite Sam, who was the big chicken with the boys
the rooster? Uh oh oh, I mean that's my era. Selena,
You're you're you're pushing all all the buttons here. All right,

(06:51):
So I've got one minute left with you. Why did
you write this book?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
It was It was a big moment in our history.
People don't understand that Donald Trump wasn't the first the
first president to be shot at in Butler. So was
George Washington. Both moments could have dramatic had the bullets
done what they were set off to do. Both moments
would have dramatically changed the history in America. It's important.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Just blew my mind. That's where you got to buy
the book. I'm not going to buy the book. I
don't if I support a book's concept before I read it.
I will buy five or ten copies and send them
to friends because I want the book to hit the
New York Times bestseller list. I want people to show
that you should be writing these kind of books, and
I want to support you. So yes, absolutely I will.

(07:45):
We're up against a break. You are wonderful. Please, folks,
do what I'm going to do. Pre order the book today, Butler,
The Untold Story of the near assassination of Donald Trump
in the Fight for America's Heartland. Is there a site
where you prefer that they buy it? Selena Ziito dot com.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I think if you find it on Amazon, and I
would be so thrilled if y'all did I promise you
it'll be a book unlike any other that you've ever read.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Fantastic, Thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
But you've got ten thousand sweet little ladies of seventy
or more that would make a pound case that you
could eat cold and enjoy Michael Berry's show.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
You know, there are a lot of aspects to the
Gates nomination. Let's explore those. One is, one theory is
there's no way the Senate will approve Matt Gates. He's
the turd in the punch bowl. There's no way that

(08:51):
would let him get through. And all the Democrats would
need is four of the fifty three Republicans. Democrats have
forty seven seats, so they just need four out of
the fifty three to peel away. If you took a
vote right now, four out of the fifty three would

(09:12):
peel away. I'm certain of it, maybe more. Now. What
typically happens in such a situation is to avoid embarrassment,
the candidate with will withdraw their name. Let's go back
to nineteen ninety two, Bill Clinton nominated. I forget her name.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Leana.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Lee, Lena not Lena. I can't remember her name. But
she had a problem with domestic staff that was in
legal alien. So they decide, you can't be attorneyed, you
can't be the top law enforcement officer. So it got real,
it got real, it got real, heated, and she withdrew
her name rather than being shot down. I think she

(10:04):
was a judge, maybe Pennsylvania. Then the second one turns
out she had the same problem, and then he went
to that spinster, Janet Reno. What was that ever? A
clunky choice, but those first two withdrew their name not uncommon. Look,

(10:28):
maybe Matt Gates passes, but I don't think Cornan votes
for him. I think there are no swamp creatures that
say Matt Gates cannot pass. The conversations I've had since
the announcement yesterday was elected officials and consultants saying, dear God,
tell me you're not supporting Matt Gates. Here's what's complicated.

(10:54):
This is a very very complicated scenario, and I'm gonna
try to give it. I'm gonna try to be his
fair to it as I possibly can, and explain it
in order in order to reform our government, You're gonna
have to have some people who are gonna go in
there who are Devil may care. They're not just fearless,

(11:20):
they're actually reckless. You're gonna have to have that. You're
gonna have to have people who go in who set
fire to everything, who are the type of people who
feed off of this intense hatred that they engender and

(11:40):
believe in what they're doing and don't care who likes them.
Ron Paul is one of those kinds of people. Elon
Musk is one of those kind of people. Mary Tally
Boden is one of those kind of people. Robert F.
Kennedy Junior is one of those type of people. Rand
Paul is one of those types of people. But they're

(12:01):
never put in charge of anything because they'd go in.
When Elon bought Twitter, he comes in with the kitchen
saying remember, and he immediately fires almost everybody that worked there,
and the media went crazy because you have to have
this big, massive staff, Now you don't. The staff wasn't

(12:25):
improving your experience. They weren't coding to make the site
less glitchy. They were all there to keep opinions from
being stated that they didn't like and it took a
lot of bodies to catch these opinions using words in algorithms.
The whole site was there to prevent it from being
a free speech site. So Elon came in and boom.

(12:49):
But he could do that with the government. You've got
systems of checks and balances for Gates to come in.
You got a couple of things that play here. First
of all, there's nothing off limits that Gates won't do nothing.
If he believes something is wrong, he'll go in and

(13:10):
do it. He would go in immediately and kill every
one of the January sixth cases. He would kill anything.
He might burn the file on Juliana Soannge because he
truly believes, and so do I, that Assannge was wrong.
He might burn the file on Edward Snowden and say, Snowden,
come on home. You've paid your dues enough. You don't

(13:31):
have to live in Russia anymore. And they're scared to
death of that. That organization, the Department of Justice, is
such an insidious cancer of evil. People like Peter Straisk
and Lisa Paige, who the Biden administration paid for the
fact that they were carrying on like rabbits and working

(13:53):
as hard as they could to kill the Trump presidency.
There are so many dirty secrets that our government has hidden.
You're gonna think Alex Jones was holding back the number
of people who've been murdered, the number of businesses that

(14:14):
were lied about, the number of involved persons whose names
you know, and organizations of our government whose names you
know have their fingerprints all over assassinations, murders, people going missing,
car wrecks went bad. And there's only a handful of

(14:37):
people in the world that you would put into that
position as Attorney general that would say open it all up,
full transparency. Yeah, but some things will get out that shouldn't.
That's part of the cost of doing business. I'm hoping
Hegseth will be that way at Department of Defense, because

(14:59):
that's the only way this ever gets fixed. As you
lay it all out, there will some things get exposed
that shouldn't. Yes, but you have to look at the
overall best interest as it is now. If they had
everything from us, then arguably nothing ever gets exposed that

(15:19):
shouldn't have. Okay, but is that good? No? No, you're
gonna in order to make an omelet, You're gonna have
to crack some eggs, and I will assure you this,
Matt Gaeks is gonna go in there and crack eggs.
You think he's gonna make Trump seem placid. I just

(15:43):
don't think they'll let him get within one thousand feet
of the Department of Justice. I don't think they'll let
him do it. I think they will not allow him
that kind of power, no matter that the President wants him.
That's what I believe. I believe this will be the
Hill they die Snowflakes for a complete meltdown. With more

(16:03):
of The Michael Ferry Show, We're going to talk more
about Matt Gates and Tulsa Gabbert and RFK Jr. But
I want to give you. I want to give you
the armor to gird your loins for the battle ahead. Okay,
I want you to understand something. You just gave the

(16:24):
president a mandate, and that mandate is to go in
and solve the problems. Now, what I want you to
understand is, let's say you got Let's say your school
district's gone to hell, and you you help your friends
get elected to the school board, and they go down there

(16:46):
and you go back to living your life. And a
month later you hear that Miss Jones has been fired
and you go, oh, man, Miss Jones was my English
teacher back in eighty seven. I like Miss Jones. I
wanted y'all to go in there and fix stuff. But
why Miss Jones get fired? Well, Miss Jones did a

(17:08):
drag Queen's Story Hour, and when the parents came up
to ask for a meeting with her to go over it,
her response was to organize another one. And Miss Jones
told the children of the parents who were complaining about
the Drag Queen's Story time second graders, mind you, that

(17:30):
their parents are terrorists and that their parents are agents
of hate, and that she hoped they wouldn't grow up
to be hateful the way their parents were. Oh, but
I liked Miss Jones. Did we have to fire miss Jones?
Or maybe you wouldn't find out why Miss Jones got
fired by the new board. Maybe you just hear that
Miss Jones got fired and you'd go, ma, I'm not

(17:54):
Maybe I don't want to solve the problems. I don't
want to Miss Jones fired. Ya, I shouldn't help y'all
get elected. Let me tell you what's gonna happen. The
Democrats are very very very busy. Twenty twenty six has
already begun in earnest. They're very, very very busy. And
the way they're going to win in twenties twenty six
they're playing is sure, we made a lot of mistakes.

(18:20):
But let me tell you something. The answer was not Trump,
and it was not Matt Gays, and it was not
Pete Hagg said he was not these Republicans. These people
are radical because the Democrats were perceived as too radical.
Most Americans don't want you to be too far either way,
This kind of go down the middle. Can't we all
just get along? Can't we all be nice? So they're

(18:41):
going to paint everything Trump does as radical. That's why
they ask questions like whoa deportations will mean that families
will be separated. There will be children just dropped out
in the desert, mothers whose child would be pulled from
their bosom. Wait a minute, we were talking about illegal

(19:03):
aliens being here murdering people and raping people and being
sex trafficked, and all of a sudden, they've stolen back
the narrative and we're separating families. We're radical, So what happens.
Suburban mom says, Hey, you know, I was all upset
about illegal immigration. But you know what, maybe you're right,
maybe I'm being racist. Well I don't want a child

(19:26):
taken from their mother. Maybe let's tamp that down a little.
You know, y'all are a little too zealous in the deportation,
and now all of a sudden, the Who's radical tag
has been taken off them and thrown on us. Matt
Gates is going to be the focal point of that effort.

(19:48):
I'm not saying I love him or I hate him.
I'm telling you what's going to happen. I'm telling you
that that Matt Gates and Gates is fearless and reckless right.
And you know, look, you're gonna have to understand they're
gonna dig under every rock. I mean, look what they

(20:10):
did to Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court. Do you ever
notice that it's only ever Republicans that they claim raped them.
They did it to Clarence Thomas, they did it to Kavanaugh,
and they're going to do it to hag Seth, and
they're going to do it to Matt Gates. You may
have won this election, but they're not handing over the power.

(20:32):
That's not how this game works. They're going to expose
what may or may not even be true, but it
will be quote unquote exposed, and they are right now
hard at it. I will remind you that after two
thousand and eight, the only bright spot for Republicans in
two thousand and eight, when John McCain embarrassed us and

(20:53):
basically handed the election to Barack Obama. That election concluded
in Sarah Palen wrote a book, Sarah Palin from a
little town with Silla in Alaska, where she'd been the mayor,
which was basically like homeowner association president, and had risen
up to be the governor, and still nobody knew her

(21:14):
because Alaska, and then all of a sudden she caught fire.
And even though the campaign didn't win, it was clear
that this woman was stealing away women from the Democrats.
You heard what Selena Zito said, It's not a male
female issue. It's a married and not married. Sarah Palin

(21:37):
appealed to married women with her values, with her mama bear.
Because a lot of suburban white women have disengaged, they're
so afraid of being called a racist. The school system
has has been populated and dominated by black activists. This
whole If you actually look at what's going on around

(21:58):
the country, this whole school board deal that's happening, If
you actually look at what's happening, what's happening is white
suburban moms are re engaging in the school because when
they stepped out and left it to these race batar
just absolute nut job. There are a lot of fat

(22:22):
black women that took over these school boards and started
hiring their buddies to come in and do diversity training. Well,
what that meant was come in and tell the white
kids that you're all demons, and just as bad, tell
the black kids that you're all victims. And it's gone
on so bad. It's gotten so bad for the moms
that didn't take their kids out of public school, because

(22:44):
a lot did, and so that you didn't notice how
bad the problem was with the public schools because the
people that should have been complaining they left and went
to private schools or they homeschooled. That's why you don't
have revolution in countries where you should have revolution, because
they've ruined everything is because the people leave there and

(23:05):
come here. Revolution is how you solve problems. The tree
of liberty. You know the story. Thomas Jefferson believed in revolution.
His time in France made him believe that the end
of monarchy the beginning of self governance, a more pluralistic society,

(23:27):
there's more representative of the will of the people required
a revolution. Monarchies do not give up their power. But
I'm going to tell you something. We've got a monarchy
in Washington, d C. It's a multi headed beast, but
it is a more like a regency, I guess technically.

(23:48):
But you've got a class of people that are holding tight,
Republicans and Democrats, and they're holding tight, clasping to that power,
and we are out here scratching it down. That's why
January sixth was so danger to them. They had to
make it to be a terrorist act because they see
the riding on the wall their Day's Park numbers from

(24:09):
all the King of Dan and this other guy, Michael Barry. Okay,
I want to make sure you heard me clearly. If
you don't have the stomach for this, then get off
the train right now. Okay, You're going to be attacked

(24:31):
using Matt Gates and Tulsea Gabbard and Pete hag Seth
and everyone else. They're past Trump. They figured out this
is what they did. They attacked Trump through you to
pry you loose from him. How many times have you
been asked you support Trump? Oh? See, you support a rapist.

(24:53):
No he's a rapist, No he's not. You support a
convicted felon. Oh you like convict felons? Is that right?
I thought you were for lawn or you like a
convicted felon. And unless you're a strong person, a really
strong person of conviction. A lot of people went into hiding,

(25:15):
or they changed their vote, or they at least stopped
talking about it. They took their stickers off, they stopped
posting about it because they didn't want to have to
defend that he's a rapist and a convicted felon and
a racist and a Charlottesville and of this and of that,
and he hates Mexicans and he hates They use your

(25:37):
goodness against you. They're evil. It's what they do. You
know what they don't do when they say Pete Hegseth.
It's all over the internet, Pete Hegseth. Who is Hey,
he's a Fox News guy, he's gonna be He's not
even a general he's gonna be the head of He's
gonna be Defense secretary. This is a joke. Trump's may
get a joke out of our government. He served twenty

(25:59):
years active duty. He has the respect of the men
and women who are serving today and have served, because
he's been there beside him, not some prissy general with
a bunch of bars who looks down on our men
and treats him like fodder or farm animals to be
killed for his own advancement. And by the way, you're

(26:22):
gonna tell me Pete heck Seth as a joke. You're
gonna tell me Pete hack Okay, okay, Well, what about
miss Piggy? The dude you got prancing around in his
pumps that looks just like miss Piggy or Tim Watson drag?
What about that? What about the bald headed dude with

(26:42):
the lipstick that? Where's the bright?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
That was?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
He was over the nuclear energy program? That dude? Remember him?
The only reason he's not there today is he got
caught on camera stealing people's luggage at the airport, fleeing
the luggage and going and cross dressing in it and
wearing it to events in DC. Does that embarrass you.

(27:07):
Does that bother you at all? I dare say, Pete
Hegg said this better than that choice too. How about
the defense secretary who's there now, the big fat black
guy Lloyd Something. I never bothered to learn his name.
During COVID he wore a full battle clava, and then
he wore a mask over that, and then he wore
a welding sheet over that. But that inspires thrill in

(27:31):
the hearts of the Chinese. Don't attack the Americans. Their
defense secretary looks like a bee keeper. You were proud
of that, well, I wasn't. Let me tell you something.
We're gonna support our people, and you're not so f
off because you got a bunch of clowns and weirdos

(27:53):
and losers that you've put in powerful positions freak shows.
Do I need to remind you about the intern? The
dude that came in with the long nails. Hi, everybody,
I'm a social media and bonzer and I am a
white house and turn today and he's wearing heels and
got makeup on you? Remember that? How was that? How

(28:14):
that look? You got to know your facts, folks, and
you've got to decide right now. I'm telling you now
before it happens, because what's going to happen is the
media that you unfortunately still respect, not you, I'm gonna
say you, I mean other people. But you know that
media is going to go don't don't Tom breaking news today.

(28:37):
Matt Gates had a girlfriend and she once said that
he talked dirty and she has four text messages they
sent back and forth. Oh my god, let's go to
the National Association of Women director. What do you say
about this man? Well, I don't think it's a good
idea that the top law enforcement officer in the country

(28:59):
is a rape That sends the wrong message to our
nation's daughters. See that's a dog whistle to suburban moms. Hey,
you want your daughter raped because if you let Gates
in there, based on what we know now, your daughter's
going to be raped. Well, what about the illegal aliens
that are literally coming here raping us. You didn't do

(29:21):
a story on that.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
You didn't go to the.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
National Association Women about that. By the way, National Association
Women was all for women and that no means no,
and that women have to be respected and you can't
have powerful men and their interns having sex because that's
a power imbalance until Bill Clinton did it, and then
they went quiet, and later they said, well, it was

(29:42):
important for the abortion movement that we not criticized Bill
Clinton because he's very in favor of abortion. Folks, you're
going to have to understand, this is going to be
a rancor us four years. We got a big job
ahead of us. Put your hazmat outfit on, because we're
going into a really, really, really brutal, nasty environment. This

(30:07):
is Seal Team six landed in a bottle bod. Okay,
the people on the other side of that fence, they
don't want to be extracted. They are dug in like
a tick and they are not about to let loose
from the power. And they're gonna use everything in their arsenal,

(30:28):
everything in their arsenal. Right now, they're still focused on
you're a racist, you're an idiot, you listen to your husband,
you did this, you voted for Trump, you deserve it.
You're going to hell. But they're gonna have they're gonna
have their meetings and they're gonna they're gonna have a
new approach in a new set of talking points at
Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and Carvell are gonna tell

(30:51):
them what to say, and they're gonna be on this
point and then they're gonna go execute because that's what
they do. They execute, and they do it well. Problem
is they were executing bad orders. That was Carvel's point
is you you you took this party identity I mean,
this identity policy thing too far. Well, listen, we're up

(31:11):
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(32:38):
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over nineteen years of you telling your friends and your work,
your fellow workers, and your spouses when you get home,
Hey did you hear Michael Berry and they tune in it.
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