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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time. Time time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Accab get over here. Ain't over smart? He strongest book? Right? No, no,
no sign Well, I make your mark what I just
signed him over to you.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
If you're willing, I'd like you to make your market.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Well. I think the bed is one of the great
scandals of our time. The auto ben was our was
our president. Ought to put it in a different way.
Whoever operated the be was our president. It's just not allowed.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
And they gave a pardon to the.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Unselect Committee after the Unselect Committee realized that that whole
situation was a hoax, that it was all therefore, including
Nancy Pelosi turning down security and all you know, turning
down vult.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
The Biden White House deployed an autopen to a fixed
President Biden's signature to pardons, prison commutations, executive orders, and
presidential proclamations.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
The Oversight Project's research.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
Has found that the Biden White House first deployed the
autopen to a fixed President Biden's signature to a proclamation
on day five of his administration, and that there were
at least three different autopen signatures in use throughout rest
President Biden's tenure in the White House. In June twenty
twenty two, the Biden White House began deploying the autopen
to sign clemency warrants in executive orders. Autopen use is

(01:45):
diyrocketed gonnor.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. This is the follow one romote
talking about President Trump turning the Republican Party into the
party that represents world working men and women in this country.
This hearkens back to a Reagan speech and he gave

(02:07):
it in relation to Labor Day years ago. He gave
it at SEAPAC in nineteen seventy seven. I believe I
read it on the air recently, and it was about
how the Republican Party should be the party of values,
and when we promote those values, we will get working

(02:30):
people and farmers and housewives and yes even some young people,
based on values, not based on race, not based on
set asides, not based on gimmes like welfare, not based
on entitlements, but based on values. We are the party

(02:52):
of values, freedom, liberty, opportunity. And when you do that,
when you do that, but Ron Johnson is making the
point here that that is what Reagan, that is what
Trump is doing.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
One of the big things that I've seen in my
time in America, which is more than fifty years, is
that the eighties now, wealthy people vote Democrats, working people
vote Republican.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
You've seen the same thing.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
I think, Well, that's been I'd say one of the
singular accomplishments.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
To Press and Trump.

Speaker 7 (03:28):
He's turned the Republican Party into the party that represents
working men and women in this country, the people that
made this country great. And listen, I think most Republicans
elect officials completely embrace. We think we have always been
for the working men and women of this country. We
try and keep taxes low, we try and keep the

(03:48):
size and cost of government restrained. That helps working men
and women. So no, this is a singular achievement of
a President.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Trump, and just for the sake of Trump, because sometimes
you've got to drive the Democrats crazy. Here is I
don't know how you pronounced this. He's from Tennessee. Randy
Ogles or ogless o g l e s. I don't
know if it's Randy is in Randy Ogles people or
ogless like a Spanish Hispanic. I don't know. This was

(04:18):
on Newsmax and here he is. I think he's purely trolling,
we'll see, but submitting legislation that would allow President Trump
to serve a third term since he served to non consecutive,
not back to back terms. I'm not going to devote

(04:39):
a lot of time to it unless this picks up
a lot of energy. But it is fun to imagine
the Democrats heads exploding over this hang on. So you
want him to serve a third term, how are we
going to get around the constitution and everything else.

Speaker 8 (04:52):
Well, I have a bill that would amend the constitution
that would allow any president who has served non can
sayecutive terms to run for a third term.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's only happened twice in history. So President Trump would
be the individual who could actually run for a third term.

Speaker 8 (05:08):
Because he has not served consecutive.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Trump's this is Clipton number four h five or moon
flash back to nineteen ninety three, the first year of
the Clinton presidency. Hillary Clinton, when the Clintons were still
trying to push the moderate agenda, says we don't want
illegal aliens having the same benefits that American citizens are

(05:32):
entitled to have. She actually said that illegal aliens should
not have the same benefits that American citizens are entitled
to have. Listen to this.

Speaker 9 (05:42):
As to illegal aliens, we agree with you that we
do not think the comprehensive health care benefits should be
extended to those who are undocumented workers and illegal aliens.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
We do not want to do anything to.

Speaker 9 (05:56):
Encourage more illegal immigration into this kind. We know now
that too many people come in for medical care as
it is. We certainly don't want them having the same
benefits that American citizens are entitled to have.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, she changed her tune, didn't she. And here is
President Trump living up to the promise she made telling
us that two hundred and seventy five thousand illegal aliens
have been kicked off of Social Security.

Speaker 10 (06:26):
We've already kicked nearly two hundred and seventy five thousand
illegal aliens off.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Of the Social Security system.

Speaker 10 (06:35):
These are people, many of them have already left the country,
and yet we were sending them checks all the time.
And two hundred and seventy five thousand, and that members
now even larger than that. Frank's unbelievable job. And what
that's doing is making the system.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Strong.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I'll bet you we've got ten thousand, sweet little ladies
of seventy or more that would make a film case
that you can eat cold and enjoy.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
At Michael Berry's show, this news I didn't have a
chance to get to. I can't get to every story.
We work a lot of stories, but I've held on
to it. And it's from this past week, and it's
Epstein victims and survivors announcing they would be releasing their

(07:30):
own client lists.

Speaker 11 (07:32):
Transparracy is justice, release the files and the secrecy and
stand with us and declaring that no one, no billionaires,
no politicians, not world leaders, is above the law.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
And let me announce now, several of.

Speaker 11 (07:53):
Us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Our own list of names. We know the names.

Speaker 11 (08:08):
Many of us were abused by them. Now, together as survivors,
we will confidentially compile the names we all know we're
regularly in the Epstein world, and it will be done
by survivors and for survivors.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
No one else is involved.

Speaker 11 (08:27):
Stakes to be in for more details on that, because
history is watching and so are the women who will
come after us.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Thank you. Then, here's an attorney for I don't know
if he's attorney for some of the victims or all
of the victims. I've heard both. His name is Bradley Edwards.
Talking about he is asked, is Trump involved?

Speaker 12 (08:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Is Trump helping with your prosecution? Yes.

Speaker 13 (09:01):
The only thing that I can say about President Trump
is that he is the only person who in two
thousand and nine, when I served a lot of subpoenas
on a lot of people, or at least gave notice
to some pretty connected people that I was going that
I wanted to talk to them.

Speaker 14 (09:19):
He is the only person who picked up the phone
and said, let's just talk.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I'll give you as much time as you want.

Speaker 14 (09:25):
I'll tell you what you need to know, and was
very helpful in the information that he gave and gave
no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever,
but had good information that checked out.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
And that helped us, and that we didn't have to
take a deposition of him. I was in two thousand
and nine. I was in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 15 (09:45):
I can tell you that I talked to President Clinton,
I'm sorry, President Trump back in two thousand and nine,
and several times after that. He didn't think that it
was a hoax. Then, in fact, he helped me. He
got on the phone, he told me things that were
helping our investigation. Now, our investigation was looking into him,
but he was helping us then.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
And finally, here is NBC News asking an entire panel
of Epstein victims. They don't want to know how traumatized
they are. They don't want to know who helped silence him.
They don't want to know anything other than was Trump involved?

(10:24):
Because their only hope is the silver bullet to take
down Trump is that he was involved with Epstein. It's
a fair question to ask, But how about Bill Clinton's involved?
You worship the man. You don't have any interest in
talking about that. That just doesn't matter to you.

Speaker 16 (10:44):
I do have to ask, and I know, and it's
just something that I think were compelled to at this
moment with the attention on President Trump, with these questions
are on a part in did anybody see or hear
of the President himself doing anything inappropriate? As a related
to Jeffrey.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Epstein, an email from a listener I thought was pretty funny.
He said, it's going to be glorious watching Democrats fight
for gun rights for mentally ill, homicidal transvestites, because that's
what's coming, and it is it is because they're going
to ban gun ownership for people diagnosed or designated with dysphoria.

(11:27):
That's the talk anyway. If that happens, then the Democrats
all of a sudden have to say, you can't take
away their guns. Oh, are we in favor of guns?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Now?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Are we in favor of gun ownership? Why do they
need a gun? They don't need a gun. The cops
have guns, surely they don't. Why on earth would they
need a gun. Nobody needs a gun. Watching the left
defend and the cartels high crime in Chicago, corruption after

(12:09):
the fires in Los Angeles, watching the left defend Lisa Cook,
who was on the board of the FED, and mortgage fraud,
watching the left defend Tiss James commit mortgage fraud, watching
them Adam Schiff commit mortgage fraud allegedly all of those,

(12:34):
of course, and seeing how the Left has as a
result of Trump doing something about it, they have to
take the other position. So when Trump says get the
boys out of the girls' bathroom, this is ridiculous, they
have to go. No, no, no, they need to be
in there. Get the boys off the court with the girls.

(12:55):
They're going to hurt them. No, no, no, they need
to be there, deal with the crime. Stop the crime
in Chicago a hotbed of crime.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
No no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
We want the crime. It's part of our community. So
now you've got Democrats saying things like we've always had crime.
Crime is part of the charm. I don't know that
the word charm was used, let me be honest, but
it might as well have been. He manages to twist

(13:30):
them up into a pretzel by simply doing the right thing.
And when Trump does the right thing, Trump delusion syndrome
is an involuntary reaction to whatever Trump does, causing you
to oppose it. So it's almost like a tick. It's

(13:54):
sort of like a Trump tourets. When Trump does something,
they do the opposite. If he says sky's blue, they've
got to say it's green. If he says we're going
to stop crime in Chicago, they have to argue, well,
they can never get it straight. First area, there's no crime,
and then they have one of the worst weekends and
they had a long time. Okay, there is crime. It's

(14:16):
our crime. We like our crime. That's what makes us special.
If we wanted to live in a low crime neighborhood,
we'd move out to the white rural counties of the South.
We don't want that. We like our crime. There's charm
in our crimes. Crime is our thing, crime is our
jam Trump coming in ruining it. Then you've got some

(14:37):
of them saying crime is not so bad. You know,
it's okay, it's not terrible.

Speaker 17 (14:43):
It's part of.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Living in a big city. You're now accepting that crime
is okay. That's your argument. Your argument now is to
accept that crime is okay and to say that you
don't want crime dealt with.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, please please stick with that through the midterms. Please
KRK Cameron of the famous and Growing Pains man.

Speaker 16 (15:07):
If it works for Growing Pains, I wouldn't be on
the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I don't know how closely you have followed the Lisa
Cook situation. She was on the Federal Reserve Board and
looks like Adam Schiff Tis James. These people are all
mortgage frauds. They're taking out they're taking out loans all
over the country, claiming each one is their their primary residence.

(15:38):
Tis James, who's the New York Attorney general that went
after Trump. She filed a document saying that she lives
in Virginia, it's her primary residence, and she's married to
a man, and the name she gives is her father
because by being married she can included his income. All

(16:00):
of this to get a better loan. All of this fraud,
All of this is a crime. Here is Byron Donald's
who is running for governor of Florida, the congressman on
Fox Business with Elizabeth McDonald recently, and he actually does
a pretty good job laying out how a woman who

(16:20):
is supposed to be on the board overseeing our financial
system is committing fraud and when that when that's the
underpinning of our financial system. Anyway, he does a good
job here.

Speaker 18 (16:35):
Headline's coming in on the escalating mortgage fraud accusations and
controversy and broiling Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, who President
Trump fired Cook's lawyer, Abbey Lowell in a new court filing,
is trying to blame the Biden Whitehouse, trying to depend
on the Biden Whitehouse and the US Senate themselves for
not catching Cook's mortgage fraud allegations, claiming they did not

(16:59):
vet her enough after she listed three homes as her
principal residence.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Says she's accused of doing.

Speaker 18 (17:06):
That to get cheaper and lower mortgage rates. Joining us
now for good to fellow candidate congs and Byron Donalds. Congsman,
you can't make this up, her lawyer said, US senators
and Biden Winehouse advisors could have asked about any of
these alleged inconsistencies and contradictions when.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
The Senate confirmed her. Are they basically admitting what she
did is wrong.

Speaker 8 (17:28):
Yeah, that's basically an admission trying to pass the buck
on somebody else. Look, here's the deal. She defrauded a
mortgage company. She said it was a primary residence.

Speaker 17 (17:39):
It was not.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
And I think it's important for people to understand the difference.

Speaker 8 (17:42):
Between a primary residence and a secondary residence is the
amount of money you have to put down to buy
the property. Under you know current law. You know, of
primary residence, you could put down three percent five percent
towards the purchase of the home, but when it's secondary property,
you got to put down at least twenty percent. So
we're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that she

(18:04):
did not put down when she lied on a mortgage
app saying that it was another primary residence. The fact
that the Biden administration didn't catch her or didn't question
It just demonstrates once again how inept the Biden administration was.
But that does not mean that the President of the
United States, Donald J. Trump does not have cause to
remove her.

Speaker 18 (18:24):
I mean, critics are saying, if she can't honestly fill
out a simple mortgage application, she's got no business voting
on whether or not interest rates should be raised or lowered.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
She's lost of trusts in the public.

Speaker 18 (18:35):
She listed three properties in various documents as her primary
residences in Michigan, Georgia, and Massachusetts to get lower rates.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
So let's just be honest. She knows how to read
an application. What she did is pulled.

Speaker 8 (18:49):
She pulled a fast one because she didn't want to
have to put out more money to have a second
and a third home. That's what she did. And so
the Trump administration, which is holding everybody accountable, caught it,
and then they're doing what they're supposed to do. They're
holding her accountable as well, no more and no less.
The reason why she's upset is because she got caught.
That's why she's upset.

Speaker 18 (19:09):
You know, they're going after Adam Schiff and Letitia James
over this too.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
What do you think final word?

Speaker 8 (19:15):
I think they should. Look what you had going on
against Donald Trump was political persecution. All the Trump administration
is saying now is we are going to make sure
the law applies to everyone.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I get aggravated at James Comer, the Republican from Kentucky
House Oversight, because I feel like he gets right up
to the edge of making real change in this country
and more often than not ends up being a media outlet,
by which I mean he'll hold a hearing, he'll expose things.

(19:50):
But then you got to close the loop. All right,
let's punish some people. You can't just keep thinking, well,
we'll get it out there in the public. I'm glad
you're getting it out there because you have subpoena power.
That's good. But you who do you think is going
to come and solve this problem? Fixed sense?

Speaker 19 (20:09):
I think that all the pardons and executive orders, especially
the ones during the last four or five months of
the Bidy administration, I think they're all in peril.

Speaker 20 (20:17):
So then it could be that the pardoning of for example,
doctor Anthony Fauci is not legitimate exactly. That's correct, Okay,
because this could lead you into all sorts of other investigations.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Absolutely.

Speaker 9 (20:34):
I mean, you know.

Speaker 19 (20:36):
The fact that there's a letter from the Merritt Garland
Department of Justice to the White House saying, you know,
you can't use the aut depend on legal documents, and
they continue to do it thousands of times after that,
like they were in a mad dash going out the door,
what some people would say, burning it down on the
way out. I think that that's even more evidence that

(20:59):
would just that the overuse of that autopid probably wasn't
the best legal route for the Biden administration to go.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
This is him.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Talking about the people who've been brought before House Oversight,
sixth former attorneys General, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton. This was
a few days ago. I think they've had a few
more since then. Just give a quick update.

Speaker 19 (21:22):
I think everyone knows who all we've subpoened thus far
in the initial batch, and we subpoenaed sixth former attorney
general as well as Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. We've
expanded that to alex Acosta. Acosta's coming in I believe
sept of the nineteenth, sixteenth or nineteenth. We've got that
date down. I know that we'll have a lot of

(21:43):
questions for him with respect to an earlier X Team
prosecution that he was involved in when he was US attorney.
We have the documents, the initial batch that had been
sent by the White House. As you know, we also
subpoenaed Pam Bondy for those documents.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
The White House is working with us.

Speaker 19 (22:06):
I want to publicly thank the White House for turning
over so many documents thus far. We're in the process
of uploading those documents for full trade parency, so everyone
in America can see those documents. It's going to as
quick as we can get them uploaded, and as the
speaker saider thirty four thousand pages, we're doing everything we

(22:27):
can to get those uploaded. We will those to be
public as soon as possible, and then we're going to
continue to bring in more people. We learned of some
additional names today. We're going to do everything we can
to give the American public the trade parency they seek,
as well as provide accountability in memory of the victims

(22:54):
who have already passed away, as well as those that
were in the room and many others who haven't come forward.
So we're sincere about this. This was a two and
a half hour discussion. It was as bipartisan as anything
I've seen in the nine years I've been here. I
appreciate the Speaker for giving us the authority to seek
out everything that I think you all want and the

(23:17):
people that I talk to as I travel America on
We're going to do everything we can to get the
answers and to do it as soon as talk.

Speaker 12 (23:25):
Before Biden came into office, we had a legal immigration
at a record loan. Michael, it will be my policy
to take down the cartels, just as I took down
the isis California through a.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Bunch of audio that I pulled that I think tells
the story. I like to let people tell the story
themselves and then comment on it because I think when
you hear them say it, it kind of it punches
home a little better. This is Kami Mamdani, the mayoral
candidate in New York talking about universal childcare. I want

(23:57):
you to understand universal childcare alone would bankrupt New York.
That's that doesn't even include the trainee surgeries and all
the other things. You would bankrupt New York. You wouldn't
have any police, you wouldn't have any fire. This is
an expense. They simply cannot bear. But when you promise

(24:17):
goodies to a certain demographic of people, dumb dumbs, they go,
oh good, yeah, we'll vote for you.

Speaker 17 (24:25):
A lot of are what our campaign is portrayed as
is if there is no precedent for it. Think about
democratic socialism. I am a democratic socialist. I also wouldn't
be the first Democratic socialist mayor. We've had a number,
and we've even had a mayor who is a member
of the Democratic Socialist of America. That's David Dinkins, you know,
not just a few decades ago. And people ask me,

(24:48):
how can this interact with New York City being the
home of global finance? And I say, my focus as
a Democratic socialist is ensuring that every New Yorker lives
a dignify. That is my responsibility to ensure that what
you need, what is necessary for you, is something that
you're not priced out of, not what you want, not

(25:09):
what you'd like. But we all understand people need K
through twelve education, so we have public schools. But for
some reason we think that childcare is something that you
could be priced out of before you get to K
through twelve. That it's okay that New Yorkers have to
spend twenty five thousand dollars a year procuring childcare. I
believe that the city should provide a universal childcare and

(25:29):
this is something that I've sought to share with people
about what our vision is and the fact that if
they have questions, if they have concerns, I'm here to
answer them, because what oftentimes people are worried about is
what Andrew Cuomo is telling them, which bears no relation
to what we're actually talking about or fighting for.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Here is more socialism, more rent control, saying he will
freeze the rent for more than two hundred and fifty
thousand rent stabilized apartments. You know, I'll play this clip.
It's going to be four o eight, but I want
you to read what Thomas Soul says about rent control.

(26:07):
It destroys innovation, it destroys investment. Nobody wants to build
apartments in rent controlled areas because you can't make any money.
So what you end up doing is starving out people
who want to get into a rent controlled area. Once
you're in, you never give it up. So they've done
studies on these rent controlled units, and it turns out

(26:29):
people have a rent control unit that's so cheap that
they can afford to do this. It's like a second home,
it's like a resort. So they live somewhere else, but
they never give up that rent controlled unit because once
you give it up, you couldn't afford to come back
at that rate. So you have a lot of capacity
that's not filled. You have a lot of units that
people don't even live in. They just keep it for

(26:50):
when they come to town. Very inefficient allocation. The free
market would be much better.

Speaker 17 (26:55):
As your next mayor of this city, I will freeze
the rent for more in two hundred and fifty thousand
roof stabilized apartments.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
But it's not all crazy. In the Democrat Party, there
are some people who realize we're going to lose elections
over this. This is four h three Congressman Richie Torres,
a Democrat from Texas, who says, hey, guys, he's a Democrat.
We need to fundamentally restructure this party and we got
to get back to the rational center. Now what is
he saying there. He's saying, we're not in the center anymore.

(27:30):
We're we're not in the center mass of the American
body politic number one, and we're not rational because if
we need to return to rational, that means we're not
rational now, right. And if we need to return to
the center, we're not in the center. We're way off
in wacko land.

Speaker 21 (27:47):
I feel like there is a recognition that we went
too far left on immigration. But you know, I feel
there needs to be a fundamental restructuring within the Democratic
Party or return to a rational center. But you know,
I worry that, I mean, Donald Trump is so aggressive

(28:07):
that he is provoking a response.

Speaker 17 (28:09):
Yeah, that is.

Speaker 21 (28:13):
You know, there's a divide between what I would say
two teams in the Democratic Party. There's Team restraining Team resistance. Right,
there were those in Team resistants who feel like we
should react hysterically to everything that Donald Trump says or does,
and then there are those who feel like we should
pick and choose our battles and be strategic. But I
worry that the momentum is on the side of hysterical,

(28:35):
hyperbolic resistance and the enormous expenditure of time and energy
and a resistance my crowd out the restructuring and moderation
that needs to happen within the Democratic Party.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Even Van Jones, who once referred to President Bush as
a crackhead Van Jones. The Green energies are under Barack Obama.
Van Jones, who is as partisan a half as you
can possibly get here, he is on CNN saying, hey, guys,

(29:06):
we got to move past this activism. It's gotten ridiculous.
We've got to move on.

Speaker 22 (29:14):
This is not gonna make me popular. But I'm not
mad because it got ridiculous. I'm an employer and at
certain point your slack channel just turned into Vietnam every
other day because something happened had nothing to do at
the workplace, and then people are not speaking.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Not mad.

Speaker 22 (29:31):
You got to bring in all kind of counselors and like,
this is not camp, guys, it's not shocking to make money.
So I enjoyed the moment for a while where we
were having our reckonings about everything we done.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Wreck O, we're reckoning to Rex. We can move on,
Thank you, and good night.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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