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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ronnie van Zant wrote that song after two of the
band members in a matter of days crashed their brand
new automobiles under the influence of drugs or alcohol, making
the point We're not gonna have much of a band
when you guys all kill yourself yourselves living like this,
you don't think it'll happen to you. It will. Oddly enough,

(00:26):
they did die shortly thereafter, but when their plane crashed
over Gilsburg, Mississippi, on its way to a show in
Baton Rouge. Every time I mentioned it's forty eight years
ago today, the greatest rock band in the history crashed,
leaving the real genius behind it, Ronnie van Zant and

(00:50):
Steve Gaines dead. What continued on can only be described
as their manager at the time, who survived but has
since passed since he did the interview with us back
in twenty thirteen as the best tribute band of all time.
But it is a tribute band. It's not Leonard Skinner
any longer. But it was forty eight years ago. Today

(01:12):
when they're Convert two forty, I think it was crash
when it ran out of gas and killed half the
band in the process. But I always try to add
something every year to the story, because there are so
many stories behind this one. And it's been probably ten
years since I told this story, so I'll tell it again.

(01:34):
The most remarkable thing to happen on that day that
didn't get much attention is as follows. So Artemis Pyle,
who we've had on the show as a drummer, escapes
from the wreckage and he crawls out and he sees
his band members around him dead, some of whom would

(01:56):
survive were knocked out. There's blood and gore everywhere, and
he goes to get help. He is severely injured and
he is bloodied. So As he crawls from the wreckage
and he starts staggering to find somebody that might be

(02:19):
able to bring them assistance. He staggers through the woods,
severely injured, and he comes into an opening where he
spots a farmhouse. He starts heading toward that farmhouse, clearly
visibly bleeding heavily. The owner of the farmhouse, Johnny Motes,

(02:46):
sees what he is certain must be an escaped convict,
so he fires what he calls a warning shot. Now
I'll leave this to your judgment. I don't think anybody
faults him for what he did, but he fires what
he considers a warning shot above what he thinks is
the escaped convict's head, and he hits him in the shoulder,

(03:12):
dropping him. Whereupon, as he approaches Artemis Pile, he doesn't
know who that is he listened to that devil music, says,
I'm the drummer for Lenyard Skinner. Our band has crashed.
We need help. The farmer believed him, assisted him, called
for help, and the rest is history. But imagine your

(03:36):
Artemis Pile. You've just survived an awful car crash. You
are in a bad way mentally and physically. You are
staggering to get help and maybe save some of your band.
There's a farmhouse. There's your help. As you stagger toward

(04:01):
the farmhouse, he comes out, raises his gun and shoots you.
Now you've been hit. This is how I'm gonna die.
I survived the crash, and this is how I'm gonna die.
Those stories always get me. You know, the guy who

(04:22):
makes it through the horrible thing and then dies in
the rescue. Yeah, I'm guessing most people probably don't know
that part of the story because it gets lost and
in all the rest of the Lord, but I always
found that a little bit fascinating to consider. Forty eight

(04:43):
years ago today, four thieves dressed up as construction workers
broke into Louver Museum in Paris, stealing French Crown jewels
that once belonged to Emperor Napoleon and his wife. The
story from NBC.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
It all happened in just seven minutes, a brazen daylight
heist at the most visited museum in the world, around
nine point thirty this morning, and tonight those thieves still
on the run. The robbery is so dramatic, like a
scene out of the Netflix show LOOPID.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Jeff necklace for launcher Marie Fournette.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
You're going to steal in the interior minister says. The
experienced burglars used this ladder mounted on the back of
a truck, then broke a window with a disc cutter,
forcing their way in during museum hours. The apparent target,
La Galerie da Poulon, on the second floor, home to
the French Crown jewels, smashing two display cabinets, according to

(05:39):
the Culture Ministry, stealing nine priceless rural items in all,
including a tiara, a sapphire necklace, a single sapphire earring,
an emerald necklace and a pair of emerald earrings. Approach,
another tiara and corsage beau, both belonging to fashion icon
Empress Eugenie Napoleon the Third's wife. In the gallery, the
the left behind the one hundred and forty care Regent diamond,

(06:03):
one of the Louver's most prized possessions, and in the
getaway it appears they drop something on their way out.
A crown belonging to Mpreseusony was found outside the museum.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
When you're off the loover, that's the figure steal to
all of from.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Officials say the operation was non violent, but tourists already
inside were evacuated and the museum shuddered for the rest
of the day and tonight the race is on to
find those responsible.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
The worst president, the worst vice president in the history
of our.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Country, the Michael Barry. We can't afford four more years
of this. It's always an odd thing when the media
just asks a fair question of a democrat and they've
been so coddled for so years, for so long, that
they don't know what to do. When that happens, they

(06:56):
start accusing the media of being controlled by Democrats. Here
is Senator Tim Kaine. Tim Kaine was Hillary Clinton's running
mate in twenty sixteen. Tim Kane was Timmy Waltz before
Timmy Waltz was Timmy wats And they decided Tim Kaine

(07:16):
had had an ounce of testosterone in him. They were
gonna sap that last ounce out and make Tim Waltz
remember when the campaign was over, and Tim Waltz said
in twenty twenty four in November, he said, yeah, I
was chosen by the Harris campaign to be able to
I was the white I was the white man whisperer

(07:39):
because I like to hunt and I like football, and
they figured I'd be able to connect, you know, I'm
saying with them, and so I did. Ye, That's what
I did. I connected with the white men because they
knew they was having the trouble with the white man's
and so I was one that they put out there
because you know, you know Josh Shapiro or you know
Pete boudageg you know, he's a good man, but he

(08:00):
couldn't appeal to the white man. Whack Han been all
manly and stuff. That was his thing. Well before Tim
Walls was Tim Kin. Yeah. So here is Senator Tim
Kain on Meet the Press with Kristin Welker, who's no
Trump supporter and no Republican, but just a basic question

(08:21):
stumbles these people.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
You know, Senator, back in twenty nineteen, you made a
similar argument during that shutdown that Republicans are making now.
Republicans at the time were asking for more funding for
a border wall. You said, let's reopen the government first.
I want to play a little bit of.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
What you had to say. We first should reopen government.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Why punished people who are applying for food stamps? Because
the president is having a temper tantrum?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Open government first?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
So, Senator, by your own logic, should Democrats not vote
to reopen the government first and negotiate later.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
Kristin, here's what's different now told the Republicans to write
this budget without any democratic involvement.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Wait what Here he is, same interview talking about the
attorney general candidate in Virginia, the state he calls home,
who sent a text to his own friend saying that
he would like to see his opponent, the Republican candidate
for attorney general. He would like to see that person's

(09:31):
wife and kids murdered, so they would have to he
would have to witness his own children being murdered. Now
everyone is upset because they keep asking, are you all
going to demand that he get out of the race. No,
we're not, they asked the governor. Are you going to
demand it he get out of the race. No, I'm
going to support him. Everybody says, what if a Republican

(09:55):
did that? Just stop already everyone is acting like, I
don't know if people don't. They can't seem to get
this through their little bit de timing, microscopic skulls. Democrats
don't believe anything they say. Ever, they never believe anything
they say. So when you say on Tuesday, hey, yesterday

(10:16):
you said red was your favorite color, but now you
say it's blue, do you deny that you said it yesterday,
I'm not answering your question. We got it right here,
We got there. It doesn't matter. None of what these
people say is true. Our problem is we take them seriously.
Our problem is we give them the compliment that they

(10:37):
believe what they say. They don't. They don't believe any
of what they say. And when you understand that, you
never ever trust anything they say. If they say this
guy is blue, go check it for yourself. If they
say this bill is good for America, it's not. Whatever
they say is a lie, period, end of story. They

(10:57):
are not our friends, they're not our colleagues. We're not
the right, honorable, we aren't buddies here. They're evil, They're awful.
They're never to be trusted ever, ever, ever, They're never
to receive a vote, they are never to have our support.
They have engaged in civil war. They used to kind

(11:19):
of be a little a little more subtle and nuanced
about how they called for it. Now they just say it.
Shoot a nice agent if he comes to your door. Here,
get yourself a gun. Shoot a nice agent who comes
to your door. Well, what more do they need to
do Until our people wake up and realize what we're
dealing with, it's just that simple. I won't hire one,

(11:40):
I won't do business with them. I'm not gonna bring
them harm, but I don't trust them. That's just the
way it is. And even the good ones, even the
good ones, when push comes to shove, we'll vote with
the most the most far left, whacked out part of
the constituency because eventually the fringe of their party will

(12:06):
force them to make a decision and they will always
go with that center.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Because a lot of people look at this and I
think they asked the question, if this were a Republican,
would you be calling for him to drop out of
the race.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
It is it's directly equivalent to things that the Republican
gubernatorial candidate has publicly said, not in private text.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Murder is murder, and your time will come.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
She said that in a public meeting speaking about pro
choice activists.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I've not called for her to drop out of the race.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
That the voters began voting in Virginia on September nineteenth,
these are fair items for voters to consider as they
cast their vote. But no, we're not calling for Republicans
to drop out of races.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
We do say, apologize.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
You have to take account for your actions, and voters
can look at the actions and look at your sincerity.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
If you apologize, Oh, we're gonna look at your sincerity,
all right. So if you go, I'm really sorry for
calling for my opponent's kids to be murdered because I
hate my opponent. No, no, But if you say, you
know I've devoted my career serving the people of this state,

(13:28):
especially the poor people and the black people, and the
gay people, and the coalition constituents that keep me in office,
and I have dishonored them in this way, and I
asked that you forgive me. I will do better. I
have learned. I have learned from this experience. Please send

(13:51):
me back again, because I got no other job, and
I make millions off this job that only pays one
hundred and fifty a year. I don't know how, but
not for you to know. He's not sagging or anything
like that. Michael Berry. It's not great, you know. I mean,
I couldn't be a button model. But it's not bad
though too. Sadly, President Trump on Fox News with Maria
Bartiromo accurately assessing the state of affairs for Democrats right now,

(14:17):
referring to them as Kamakazi's. It's an interesting, interesting term
to use, and we'll discuss that. But here's what he said.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
The Democrats are Kamakazi's right now, the Kamakazi polace right now.
They have nothing going, they have no future. They have
in company candidates. I mean, I looked at Crockett, Jasmine Crockett.
She's a low, very low IQ person. She's polling okay
in the Democrat Party. I can't even believe it. Aoc Is.

(14:48):
I watched her the other day. It's like, you gotta
be kidding. This is not going to make our country good.
And for us to have a communist man, it looks
like we're going to New York. He's not a socialist,
he's a communist.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
The reason he refers to them as kamic causes is
what I mentioned earlier about the no Kings. This is
not a grassroots effort. The way the Tea Party was
the Tea Party going back to twenty ten and then
twenty twelve was the American people frustrated and organizing and

(15:25):
protesting and electing candidates, and it was at the very
grassroots level. Then there were people who saw, oh there's
a business opportunity. I'm going to try to get in
charge of this massive army of people because I can
sell them stuff and I can raise money from them.

(15:47):
And that was not the end of Tea Party, but
it definitely fractured it because multiple people wanted to be
the King of the Tea Party. But the beauty of
the Tea Party is it was grassroots bubbling up. None
of what the Democrats are doing is from the grassroots

(16:07):
bubbling up. That's why you can ask people on the streets.
That's we've played you audio. What are you here for?
I don't know. They told me to be Trump's a
bad guy. Why I don't know what everybody here says
he is? So Soros's people don't know what to do
right now. If you could keep Trump out of office,

(16:29):
you could say he's a Nazi and he'll cause another
war and everyone will be poor and everything will be bad.
But then when he got into office and he started
doing things, and people saw, oh, he's ending wars. What
are we at nine? Now he's ending wars. Gas prices

(16:50):
just dropped below is what did I see? If I
wrote this down? The national average gas price has fallen
below three dollars a gallon as of this weekend, for
the first time since twenty twenty, the last time he
was president. And then I've got audio. We'll play it.
If we don't get to it today, we'll get to

(17:12):
it tomorrow. The Energy secretary to Biden was Grant Holme.
She was asked about their plans to lower gas prices.
She laughed she didn't care about lowering gas prices or
creating an environment where gas would be more plentiful supply

(17:33):
and demand. Increase the supply without changing the demand, you
drive the price down. Pretty simple economics. These people are
comic cossies. They don't know what else to do. They're
trying to disrupt, but whatever they try isn't working. He's

(17:55):
killing people, and I know he's not. He's going to
destroy the economy. Not happening. Tariffs are going to end
the economy. Not happening. President Trump on Fox News with
Maria Bartiromo, playing hardball. We'll just kill a twenty bit
Schumer's leading this charge, all right, I'll just kill a
twenty billion dollar project he's working on.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Is we're cutting Democrat programs that we didn't want because
I mean, they made one mistake. They didn't realize that.
That gives me the right to cut programs that Republicans
never wanted, you know, giveaways, welfare programs, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
And we're doing that, and.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
We're cutting them permanently. We're cutting a twenty billion dollar
project that Schumer fought for fifteen years to get, and.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'm cutting the project. The project is going to be dead.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
It just's pretty much dead right now.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Don't cry for Chuck Schumer. This is what he does
all day every day. This is what he and John
Cornyn and Mitch McConnell. They play little games like this
all day every day. This is their process. He knows
how to play this game too. Here he is on
Fox News and Maria Barbiromo talking about the crimes that

(19:08):
Obama committed and that they are illegal, not just immoral,
not just unprecedented. He is laying the groundwork, setting the
predicate they are going to have to indict Obama. He's
preparing the American people. This is a trial balloon. Let's

(19:28):
see what they say. First you've got Komy, then you've
got Brennan. And if they committed crimes, they have to
be arrested, they have to be tried. There's no way
around that.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
All of these indictments caused Obama the other day in
a podcast to say that right now democracy is being threatened.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
He says that all the time.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
He's the one that threatened it by spying on my campaign.
He started it. Obama spied on my campaign, and he
did it knowing it was illegal.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
He knew was.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Illegal, but he started the whole thing. And there were
a lot of dishonest people, and I suspect they'll be caught.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
He's getting people ready, and I'm glad he is. He's
going to be indicted, and we should expect no less
because you know what says no kings the idea that
nobody is beyond prosecution when they commit crimes. Right, Bill

(20:35):
Clinton had his license to practice law revoked. Other people
went to prison around him, but Bill Clinton did not.
He should have. Everyone knows he should have. But Bill
Clinton did not. Nixon's top people, Erlicckman, Haldeman, Mitchell, Dean,

(20:59):
they went to I think John Mitchell went to prison.
I'm not positive on that they went to prison. That
the others did. Why didn't he because there has long
been the notion that the president cannot be prosecuted for
committing a crime. When Trump left office, they were so

(21:21):
determined to keep him from running again because they're looking
at numbers that you're not looking at. They know how
deep the American public's commitment to him is, and they
know that he knows where the bodies are buried, and
they know that he won in sixteen, and he won
in twenty. They cheated, but they know he won, and

(21:44):
they know that he is the only man alive who
could run in twenty four and win again. And so
what did they do. They broke with everything that we
supposedly believed. You don't prosecute presidents. That's third world country.
But these are third world people. I mean, you think
about it, these people that we're talking about. Tiss James, please,

(22:10):
she's eedy, I mean level governance, ethics. And so they
prosecuted him. You know that, you know the you know
the rule. If you go for the king, you better,
you better get you shot because otherwise it's gonna be
held to pay. And now that's gonna be held to pay.
And that's what I want. America. Cities have become unlivable, untenable, unsanitary, corrupt,

(22:39):
and everyone in the country knows this. You don't have
to argue this. We all know it. The only question,
and it wasn't even really discussed, was could it be fixed?
Most people had written off the cities. If you go
to palmb Each where President Trump's mar lago is, and

(23:04):
you go to restaurants there. I've sat at a restaurant
there called Colony. A lot of Fox News folks eat there,
and it's a popular meeting place, and you can be
sitting there having lunch and everyone around you has a
New York accent and they're all talked like right now
they're talking about Mamdani because there's still sort of expats

(23:30):
from New York. New Yorkers are very into New York
and so the idea is, you know, New York City
will always be their home, even when they don't live there,
but emotionally it will always be their home. And they
were finally forced to leave because the taxes were so high,

(23:53):
the crime is so bad, things are so awful, and
if Mamdana wins, that's the absolute collapse, that that's the
collapse they'll never get. There'll never be an opportunity. When
you figure Rudi Giuliani was thirty years ago and that

(24:15):
was the last ditch effort to save the city, to
clean it up and save it. And when when when
when Giuliani leaves and it continues that, then it turns
that dip downward. It has never recovered. But there's a

(24:37):
slow accretion of people, and especially the kind of people
they needed to keep that city, which was white liberals,
rich white liberals, so you could afford to charge higher
taxes and you know, you could you could have you know,
several million dollar thousand square foot flats. Well, not a

(24:59):
lot of peop that can pay for that. You've got
rent control on a lot of the real estate and
so your taxes on that. And then you've got people
paying a lot of money for a little flat and
a lot of money for the expensive things of the city.

(25:19):
Theater tickets, well that's you know, restaurants, things cost a
lot in New York. In order to prop that up,
you've got to have people with a lot of money.
And that's not just Wall Street people. But slowly but
surely you're seeing more and more people flee, one by

(25:45):
one by one. Carol Markowitz, my friend who is with
the New York Post and Fox News, was the proudest
New Yorker you could ever find. I think are husband
is Israeli. Originally I'm not positive on that, but I
think so. And she is Russian Jew and they were

(26:07):
living in New York, and you know, New York was
the beginning in the end, and she used to write
about that she loved New York. And then one day
she's moved to near Miami in Florida. I think Boca
Ratone or Ben Shapiro's Boca Ratone. She's somewhere right around
that area. Buck Sexton moved to Miami. I mean so

(26:31):
many people.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I know.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Sean Hannity moved to Miami. And these are just high
profile cases. There are loads of people who just said
I can't live like this anymore. So what the President
has done is said we're taking back our cities when
nobody believed it could be done. So here is Congressman

(26:53):
Steve Cohen from Tennessee, a Democrat, on CNN saying, you
know these arrests that they're making when they come in,
they've arrested seven people who committed wait, seven people who
committed homicide. You don't consider that a success.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
They've done a lot of meetingless arrest is traffic stops,
good to do them, and the highway control who's come
and help with that too, and that's part of their charge.
But no, they've only i think, said that they've progrested
seven people who committed homicide, and they say they've rescued
forty five children and most of them are runaways. I
don't know what the situation was there.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
You don't know what the situation is there because you
don't want to admit that human trafficking is happening in
our cities, that the cartels control it, and that human
beings are being used as sex objects, and that that's
what that's what drives illegal immigration, is drugs and people
being trafficked, and you pretend you don't know because it's

(27:52):
plausible deniability. It's the kind of deal where your babysitter
tells you when you were a kid, hey, can we
do this? I don't want to know. You didn't ask me.
As far as anyone knows, I didn't know that's what
they're doing.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
There.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Seven murderers were arrested. I'd consider that a success. I
find it troubling that you don't. And finally the President says, next,
we're going to San Francisco. Remember the CEO of Salesforce
said he needs to come to San Francisco. He later
came back and apologized because he was criticized by his
San Francisco buddies, not because they don't need the National Guard,

(28:28):
not because crime isn't bad, but because that might make
Trump look good.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
But the governor who got thrown out of his business
by his family because he's a dope. But the Governor Pritzker.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
He doesn't want us in.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
You know, if I were him, if I were a Democrat,
i were him, I'd say, come on in.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
What do you have to lose to go to San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Next, we're going to go to San Francisco. The difference is,
I think they want us in San Francisco. San francis
Cisco was truly one of the great cities of the world,
and then fifteen years ago it went wrong.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
It went woke.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Remember my satement anything woke is I used that filthy Well,
broke is another way. I used that filthy way, but
I took enough heat that I won't say it again.
But it's true. I mean, nothing changes, right, But we're
going to go to San Francisco and we're going to
make it great. We're going to make it great. It'll
be great again. San Francisco is a great city. It

(29:25):
won't be great if it keeps going like this.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
So the CEO of Salesforce, headquartered in San Francisco, came
out and said, yeah, it's dangerous. This crap all over
the streets. There's homeless people everywhere. It's a zombie land. Yeah,
he needs to come in and fix it. He had
to later come back a day or two later and
apologize for that, and he said he was catching heat
from the other wealthy San Franciscans. They would rather their

(29:53):
city burn to the ground that admit they need help.
They would rather all be murdered and raped, the drug
dealers and thieves. They'd rather all the retail leave the city.
There's very little left. They'd rather live in this zombie land.
It's the now, it's the car theft, smash and grab

(30:13):
capital of the country. They'd rather live in a hell
than admit that Trump was right and Trump could help.
That's that's how sad the white liberal is, because that's
what we're talking about. It's white liberals. They would rather
die in the squalor than admit that Trump was right.

(30:35):
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