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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
When I started the show by saying, I'm just about
to undertake a task that I'm not capable of accomplishing.
If you've listened for the entirety of the last hour,
or worse, some portion of it, you may say, is
he defending Trump? No, I'm not defending Trump, nor I'm
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not nor am I condemning Trump. I'm making the point
that what Donald Trump feels about the death of Rob
Reiner is not important, and anyone who thinks it is
is trying to create content that will get more listeners,
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more viewers, more readers, so they can sell their ad
space for more money, because that's what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Everybody is out here.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Like the little Hondura and Guatemalan guys on the Las
Vegas trip, who are constantly popping that little piece of
paper and trying to hand it to you the minute
you glance. First drink free at our strip club, next one,
I got two first drink free. They don't speak English.
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They is handed the card and if you take that
card in there, he gets a buck or something from
the owner of the club because they got you in there,
and everybody's trying to get your attention. And then you
got the neon. Look over here, we got two for
one drinks for free, stay the night for free high rowers.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Then you got billboards.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Then he got cars with billboards, you got people dressed
up with billboards. Everybody's trying to get your attention. Nobody
gets your attention with a measured statement of wisdom. They
get your attention. The crazier they get, more radical, they
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get more nutty, they get more controversial, they get what
does it matter what Donald Trump feels about Rob Reiner's death?
Does it change anything? Do you think Rob Reiner is offended?
Do you think anyone around Rob Reiner is saying, oh,
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my goodness, Daddy loved Donald Trump and now Donald Trump
has turned on him. Do you think they're saying, why
would Donald Trump speak ill of our father, who spent
his entire life trying to destroy Donald Trump and calling
him the worst possible names. Please show Daddy some mercy
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upon his death. Please for the decency of our daddy,
the man who said the most vile things ever Rob Reiner.
I don't think anyone is clutching their pearls over the
good name and legacy of Rob Reiner. Is it unfortunate
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that his son gutted him and his wife? Sure, it's unfortunate.
Is it any more unfortunate than the family are than
the people who are murdered by illegal aliens every day,
who nobody seems to create an outpouring of condolences for them.
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Is Rob Reiner's death more important because he made movies
that you liked? Is Rob Riiner's death more important because
there are other people whose kids murder them?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Happens every day.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
There are people who illegal aliens kill them. Are Muslim
terrorists or transgender terrorists? Anybody feel bad for them? Anybody
rushed to see what Trump's statement was on them? Did
you issue a statement?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Why don't you care? They've lost their child, their mother,
their father? What about every service member? What about those
just killed in Syria? Do you know their names? Did
you rush to see what Donald Trump said about their deaths?
Did you issue a statement about their deaths? Did the Democrats?
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Did the National Review?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Oh? No?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You see, because celebrity is sacred in this country, you
don't touch the inner sanctum of the chosen tribe. The
famous people see de Niro can say anything he wants
of Trump. He can fantasize about murdering him. Alec Baldwin
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can call his twelve year old daughter a thoughtless little pig,
and that's okay. He can still host Saturday Night Live
this Saturday, because he is royalty. These people can do
unspeakable things, horrible things, but they are our celebrities, and
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we the serfs, know our place. We know that deep
down there better than us, and that when they die,
Oh my.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
God, that's horrible. His son killed the two of them.
I feel horrible. Why you don't feel horrible? Didn't know
the man?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
That's terrible? Well did you know him? Well?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
No, but that's a terrible thing that happened. All right,
give me a minute. I'm going to tell you about
a terrible thing that happened in Iowa, very similar circumstance.
Heroin addicted kid killed his grandmother who he was living with,
left her for dead. They found her a week later.
The maggots were eating her body. Oh I didn't hear
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about that. Yeah, And you don't give a damn either.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Do you? Because she's not famous.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Donald Trump is under no obligation to say something polite
about Rob Rainer and you're welcome, and so we're all
the other celebrities to clutch your pearls. Because Donald Trump
should be Donald Trump only when he's being Donald Trump.
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But in other days, we need him to be prim
and proper. We need him to be a member of
the Bush family or maybe a Romney. We need him
to not be that guy. You know, this is where
we struggle. We wanted Lawrence Taylor to be Lawrence Taylor
every Sunday, but we weren't ready for Lawrence Taylor on Monday.
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We weren't ready for Mike Webster suffering till he died.
We just wanted him to snap the ball and smash
somebody so that there was an opening for Franco or
Terry Bradshaw. We want our warriors, the Morgan Latrelle's, the
Chris Kyles. We want them to be our warrior at
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the parade. We want Patton to be patent as played
by George C. Scott, but we don't want him to
slap a soldier on the face. We want him to
be absolutely beyond control, his own man, do what he
wants crazy until he does. We want everybody to be compartmentalized.
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We want him to play a part, play a role,
and the rest of the time we want them to
be like us, prim proper, sleeping soundly in our beds.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
This is.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know what's the name, we say, Michael Gouddy.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Competition is a good thing. It is good to be
reminded that we don't have kings. No literally, forget some
left wing protest. We've had governors serve a long time
in the state of Texas. Starting in nineteen ninety four.
You had George W. Bush who served until he ran
for and was elected president. You had Rick Perry, who
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served a long period of time, and since then we've
had Greg Abbott. It's very hard to dislodge a sitting
Texas governor, especially one like Abbot, who spends all his
time raising money and never actually taking a position, which
leaves people who actually care about policy very angry. But
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we all know that's the slim minority. Low information voters
go by a sentence of how someone is doing, and
as long as they're not embroiled in any controversy, they
just kind of keep plugging along.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But we deserve better.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I'd say Ron DeSantis is a much better governor than
Greg Abbott. I think a lot of folks and it
would be a series of movement A successionists, a constitutionalists,
a Tea Party folks and people that want a secure
border and people that want better policy would say in
Texas they're disappointed in Greg Abbott, I hear that daily.
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A number of folks have asked me to interview doctor
Pete Chambers, known as Doc, retired US Army Lieutenant colonel,
Special Forces green beret and a physician. They have described
him as a defender of freedom, as more in touch
with the values of folks who believe in the concepts
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of freedom and the Tea Party. I've had a number
of listeners ask that we talk to Doc Chambers, and
now we will.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Doc Chambers, welcome to the program. It's good to be
or Michael is Doc. How most people that know you
and like you refer to you.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's a term of endearment you get on the battlefield,
and it kind of stuck. So it's been with me
for a while.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And what about people who don't like you? What do
they call you?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's late for dinner?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
All right, So let's start with let's introduce you to
our audience and just to a great extent in me.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I know what materials our team pulled together.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But let's start with where you were born, the time
of day, the hospital, your childhood, the thorough bio of
who Doc Chambers it is.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well. Luckily for those listening, we actually posted everything on
the website so we would dispel all the uh, you know,
why weren't you born in Texas rumors? I was born
in Missouri, Kirksville. My dad was a doctor and he
was in med school and I actually never set foot
in the state walking, but so shortly after he did
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residency and I ended up my home wrecords Oklahoma, so
just across the Red River. But I've been in Texas
since nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Wait a minute, Sarah Fryer was born in As, she says, Missouri.
Did y'all know each other?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay, I didn't know who everybody knew each other?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
No, I didn't meet anybody there except for my mom
and dad.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
All right, So then, so then how did you end
up in Texas?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right? Well, I came down to Texas to do residency.
After my medical school. I went to you know US
in New England and graduated in ninety five, finished an
internship in ninety seven, and then ninety seven I came
to Beaumont, went to Port Arthur, worked in a couple
of hospitals, three hostels down there. University of North Texas
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has a program down there that primary care, and my
intent was to go back in the military to be
a primary care doc in the army. I already had
served once before in nineteen eighty three to nineteen ninety
as an infantry guy, you know, nothing special, just to nameless,
a guy that learned how to dig holes and terry
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a ruckstack. But after that, nine to eleven happened, and
then I went back on active duty, and that thought
we'd go down range and we would get it done
pretty quick. I can come back and set up a
family practice or a house call business. Unfortunately, we just
spent the last twenty years going back and forth to
the sandbox. So I changed my life.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Talk about that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think that's a pretty profound experience. And it sounds
like we share a lot of the same views as
to the lengths of time our nation spent there, particularly
guys like you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
How did that change you?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Oh, it changed a lot, you know, being a guy
that I came in under Ronald Reagan. You know, it
was my first president. I served utter and completely, you know,
focused on you know, red, white, blue America, Mom, mom, dad,
apple Pie, and that is that is rightly solids patriot.
My dad was a patriot World War two guy. But
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but something happened along the way where I realized, we're
not here fighting a war to defend our soil. We're
over here doing somebody else's bidding. And as a soldier,
it's not my business to change policy. I can't. I
follow orders. And then I loved my troops, and so
I stayed on the extended past my you know, I
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could have retired at twenty years, but I went and stayed,
and then twenty fifteen my last deployment, twenty fourteen, probably
my worst one down range. Just you kind of lose
your edge after a while. And war is infanity, that's tangible.
That's the way I tell people. And it's an ugly business.
And it's just unless it's on our shores and it's
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a declared war, which it was not a declared war.
Our sons and daughters don't need to be an harms
way for those for those types of actions for that
period of time without somebody in Washington, DC, or even
in the governors that allow their National Guard units to
be deployed in a non declared war. Somebody needs to
stand up, you know, on the other side of it
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and say, hey, wait a minute, what are we really
doing here? Because we saw the Demaco what happened when
we left there and left all that equipment, And of
course to me, it's not about the equipment, but that
was just the knights in the back, if you will.
So I'm not disgruntled. I have a son going in
the military. I'm just I find a hard time, I
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find a hard reason to say was it worth it?
But I believe it was worth it for us that
were on the ground because we truly learned what the
virtues of honored pristige and the spread of corps really mean,
and what patriotism really means because they fight for each
other and definitely for those back home. But we weren't
looking at somebody trying to la launch you know, boats
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onto the shores of the US proper.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
So it's a hard money for just a moment hard
Doctor Chambers is running for governor against Greg Abbott. He's
our guest, He'll just go ahead and say it sorry.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Doctor beat Chambers, known as Doc Chambers those who know him,
retired US Army Lieutenant colonel's Special Forces green beret and
a physician.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He's running for governor. He is our guest.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Doc.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Let's first start with we talked a little bit about
your bio, and we'll get back to that. But in
order to run for an office where the incumbent is
running again, you have to believe you'll do a better
job than them.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
What is Greg Abbott not doing that you would do better?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yes, sir, Well, he's not producing anything that he says
he's going to do over the last eleven years. And
for the citizens out there that really don't pay attention
to security on the border, we'll get to that. He's
promised them, you know, decreasing taxes. Now, you know, the
tax code is written in a very byzantine labyrinth code.
I've gone through with teams now Texans that care, and
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they're out here talking to me in different different avenues
to different angles of it. And really, even though he
can claimed that it's you know, it's not from the
state level, it's the local level. The conditions that he
sets at the state level, do allow for the second
and don't order effects of what's happened over eleven years,
which has increased taxes. So you know, that's that's straight
up for me. That's that's a part of security. It's
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a fiscal security. But what I saw, what I learned
during the COVID mission when we when I was sent
to the Governor's Task Force to be the liaison, watching
the amount of money wasted in the and the really
for for something that's just the common cold with a
with a you know, gain of function added to it.
It was it became a bio weapon. But uh, you know,
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really the way that the state handled it was very poor.
A lot of a lot of freedoms were taken away. Uh,
and it just and we followed, you know. Of course
the Governor I trusted him at the time I worked
in the in the task force. But then the things
that I learned afterwards and then watching it unfold, especially
when I served on Operational Loan Star, when the mandates
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came and our sons and daughters of Texas were forced
to take the shots. Uh, I stood in the gap
and said no, and they finally Sentate General down there
played this game of rock paper rank with me, and
uh he won. I was a lieutenant colonel, but he
lost ultimately because he said you're not giving enough people shots.
And I said, I'm doing in form consensor and we
helped line and then I testified to in a D
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O D case on it. We got the shop mandates dropped.
But it took you know, losing a career over it,
essentially paying benefits for me as a lieutenant colonel on
the border. You know, that was That's a fight worth having.
So I know these things. I've seen what's coming across
the border. I know we're sitting in the throes of
a color revolution in this country, which is insidious. People
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don't see it, most people, like you said, uninformed voters.
But those of us that understand it. And when I
would put my study on this thing, talking to General Flynn,
Coral West other people and said should I run, they said,
you should absolutely run. We need somebody in it that
will will at least force the function up until the
time of the primary, take the primary, and then fix
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the problem set. So that's that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
It is very unhealthy for sitting politicians not to be challenged.
You know, the reigning Super Bowl champion or World Series
champion does not begin the next season without having scrimmages,
without having competition, without challenging yourself, iron sharpens iron. I
think it is very healthy. And I think Greg Abbott,
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of all people, has grown extraordinarily arrogant and out of touch.
And I think that your message is one that will resonate.
The challenge becomes interviews like this help, but the challenge
becomes that Abbott sitting on a stockpile of cash that
of course he will spend to tell people that he's
done what he hasn't and hasn't done what he has.
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But your challenge, I suppose, is just getting out and
talking to enough voters. And from what I hear, you
are hitting the hustings pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Who we are, Yeah, voice is a little rough, fifteen
days in a row, this is my first day off,
so but we're going to continue it again. This is
like a deployment downrange that nobody's shooting at us with bullets.
It's more verbal. You know. You get the pun ins
that don't like it, and I get it. I'm willing
to take the shots, but we've got to push it.
Like I said, all the way to the primary day.
I keep pushing and forcing the function of because we
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are seeing some knee jerk reactions and that's good, that's
that's bringing it to light. And you know, we need
one point five million votes in an off cycle primary
to win. So we'll bring him under Arthur Mopoly battlefold
and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
What do you hear the most of when you're out on.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
The trail, What are people most frustrated about, most seeking,
most looking.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
For most of them and many of them are like me,
I second go around for Abbott. I trusted him. But
they're just saying, but why why is he doing this?
They want me to answer why has he not done
what he said he's going to do? And I can't
defend him. I can only say, well that there's a
lot of reasons why politicians don't do things, and a
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lot of reasons why they promise. But I would have
to be speculating to otherwise do that. But that is
the biggest thing is they're heartbroken. Many that loved him
are heartbroken, and some of them are mad at him.
And I straight up to see that in the cinemon analysis,
he's sitting at a one ut pull at thirty favorability
rating around thirty two. You know, that tells me that
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people that do look into these things, and more and
more are that do this to their homework are waking
up to just like the COVID thing, remember that, right,
So it's the country winner the Stockholm syndrome. For a while,
they fell in love with their captors as they gave
them their freedoms back. In order to win us to
come out of a scenario Stockholm syndrome, you've got to
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have little victories. And this could be a little victory.
It may not be. You know, I'm not going to
talk negative. I'm going to talk about winning a race.
But up until the time of the primary, we are
forcing the little victories, and those each and every day
when I see people that jump on our task forces,
are our commissions and help us, I see the three
in their eyes because they feel like they're doing something
and they're forcing the function.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I operate under the theory that the people should not
fear the politicians and politicians should fear the people. And
when politicians feel that they have an unchecked power, either
to do nothing or to go too far, and Abbott
has done both. I think it's healthy for people to
have an outlet for that rage and an opportunity to
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fix it. So I don't know that you can win
or lose. I don't know that anybody can. I do
think it is a very very valiant effort you are undertaking,
and I think it's important that you do it.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
You say on your website, which is Docpete Chambers dot org,
or you can just google his name, it says Texas
First always, he'll secure our border.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Talk about that, yes, sir, So the border. There's an
optic versus reality that took place on the border. It
seemed like I know, I know through different sources that
I dealt with directly, that the problem sometimes get pushed
to the right. Never you know, you've heard this before.
Never let a good crisis go to waste. So a
lot of money comes in from the federal government, it
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gets pushed to the right on the timeline and things
slow down. Trump came in. He put a turnket on
the border. The flow is decreased. That's a good thing.
But we still got a thousand tiny cuts. So we're
dealing with those. And so I when I know what
I know, the amount of an enemy combatants that are
straight up in this country. We have to secure that.
We have to do more than just strongly worded letters
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and making a declaration of foreign terrorist organization without actually putting,
you know, teeth into it. So there has to be
teeth into it. Because I'm looking at Colony Ridge and
throw over it the other day and again to get
a follow up on that in Ayras County, I'm sorry,
in Liberty County, and that place has you know, grown
to one hundred and fifty thousand people on the estimate.
We'll get the numbers as we do our homework. Here.
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You've got sharia law in Dallas. It wasn't here, you
know when I came back to Texas. So we have
to get really some teeth in this thing if we're
serious about securing the border. And there are other ideas
that are very you know, technique's tactics and practices I
wouldn't talk about, but I would not be an optic
I assure you of that, and I would give the
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authorities as do by the Article four, Section seven Texas
Constitution says the governor can to during the state.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Doc hold on just a moment.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Pete Chabers is a physician, known as Doc to those
who love him. Retired US Army Lieutenant colonel candidate for
governor of the Great State of Texas. He's our guest
coming up. Texas is a big state. It's hard to
run statewide. You've got to have a lot of money
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and a lot of energy. You've got big media markets Houston, Dallas,
West Texas, Austin, San Anton, South Texas, East Texas. The
Houston market alone is bigger than some states. When you're
running statewide in Idaho or Vermont, it's easier than running
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just in Houston alone. Add to that all the other markets.
I didn't even mention the Panhandle. It's tough, and when
you've got a sitting governor who's sitting on a pile
of cash, it's an uphill battle.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But these battles have to be fought for the sake
of our state.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Doc Peters, Doc Peters Dock Chambers Pete Doc Chambers, because he's.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
A doctor, is our guest.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
On your website it says Texas first and always defend
parental rights.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
What does that mean to you?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
All right? Well, this this is ah this is one
of the things I noticed, especially with referendums that come
out and propositions that uh basically are asking the government
to give us permission to have the right to raise
our children. And it's really the way. The devil is
always in the details, right, And when you look at
the not just a little blurb that they give you
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when you go across the boat. Uh, you know that
sounds really good, But when you look at the details,
and the devil's in the details. Because of course I
think sometimes the devil lives in Austin. But what I
what I see is, uh, we've got to hold the
line there. This is these are enumerated rights inherent in
the people, as the as the article WM section two says,
and it takes us and it is. It is not
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endowed by uh, you know, the governor. It's endowed by
the creator. And so that is I hold the line
firmly on that. I believe that people have uh you know,
we don't. We don't need to, like I said, Genuflex
to receive those rights.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You talk about parental rights, you talk about medical rights
and a reference to that, and as a physician, I
get to sense that that you share. I don't want
to put words in your mouth. But my views and
maybe those of Mary Tally Boden.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You you worked through as a professional the COVID era,
where I think a lot of people lost trust and
faith and respect for what we're called the experts.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Sure is. There were four whistleblowers in the whole of
the Department of Defense, and I was one of them.
At Ron Johnson uh gave us whistleblower protection. I'll put
him put quotes around that word protection. There's still lots
of subversive things happen. But I've testified in a case,
a federal case Fields versus bod to guard those freedoms
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that they have for medical freedom regarding fate. They didn't
want to take it because of what was in the shots.
But it goes further than that. It is not only
by regulation, but it is it is just the hippocratic
oath and everything that is. You know that we've learned
about that we do do no harm. First of all,
for this do no harm we cannot, we cannot take
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that choice away from the patient. But we also must
Any intervention must come with an informed consent, which means
the good and the bad and the ugly of that
so when I studied it, and look, I'm just the
guy that stops bleeding on the battlefield. I'm really good
at it. I'm a flight surgeon for the Green Rice,
been deployed in combat several times, so I will say
I'm very good at that. But I'm not an immynologist
and no orbroologist, but I can learn really quickly. And
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when I got down to their border and I'm taking
care of these soldiers, men and women of Texas, and
they are falling out because they took shots already. And
then you know, first case, twenty seven year old Miro
card Ice, second case stroke God took two years to
get rehab his voice. I had to stand in the
gap and say, no, moss right, no more. So I
went to my chain of command, went to the task
for a commander, went to the governor's office, went to
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the State Adjutant General's office, and it was crickets. You know,
there was a congressman that you were talking about from
Houston earlier, where's a patch. I went to his office,
same thing, crickets. So it took us out of state,
the Senator to come to Texas's aid with all dispatch
in the words of William Barrett and say, hey, testify
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on this, and we're you know, we're going to go
after this. And we did and we won. And now
the Secretary Offense says it's on law order. Now, Mary
tally Boning, you talk about great friend, I'm gonna put
her in charge. You know, we make it through this,
She'll be in charge of the Texas Medical Board and
there will maybe nobody on the board. It gives exorbitant
campaign donations to this governor because that's the fact that
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every one of them that sits there right now. So
perhaps even demolishing, because I'm a centralizing kind of guy,
demolishing the Texas Medical Board at a great actions.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I think there are. I think that their dealings with
regard to her reveal a number of things, the problems
with that board and also her sense of keihotic willingness
to fight against no matter what the stakes. You know,
she could have easily tucked tail and walked off and
left that alone. They picked the wrong fight in her.
(29:30):
That is a tough, tough lady. I just checked while
you were talking to make sure there were six Missourians
at the Alamo.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
In cases you were wondering you probably already knew that.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
So where do we go from here? We will talk
again before the election. I wanted people to have an
opportunity to get to know a little bit about you.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I've got about two minutes left.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I'm sure you have what we call the elevator speech
to donors and to rallies. Why don't you take that
time and I'll just cut you off and we get
the break and we'll talk again before the election.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Okay, Sure, it's great talking to you. So you know,
Bob Hall taught me that's a senator in Texas. She
taught me that think of the horse you nail, your
vote counts. We need every vote in this off cycle election.
So just think of a horse you nail. For a
one of a nail, a hoof was lost, a shoe
was lost. The loss of a shoe, a horse was lost.
The loss of a horse or rider than a battle,
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then a war was lost Texas. I need every one
of you just to get up, get to Doc Pete
Chambers dot org and get on the team and help
us out. We're taking volunteers every day to help write policy,
to help be on task forces. And again, thank you
Michael Berry for having me on and we'll talk against her.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Sounds good. Good luck out there. It's it's a big state.
But God bless you.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I've heard from a number of people who wanted to
hear from you and uh, and we'll make sure that
you are heard from again before this election. Keep up
the good work. Thank you for your service to this country.
We need good people to run for office, we really do.
And I'll tell you it is a It's a tough
tough thing to do because people are going to criticize
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your motivations. They're going to criticize whatever you're most proud of.
They're going to criticize your appearance. They're going to criticize
the way you wear your hair or the cut of
your jib or whatever else. And the establishment doesn't like change.
(31:29):
Once they get their guy that they know his entire
staff and they know that he owes them. Change is
anathema to the political process. They like stability, not great representation,
not effectiveness in government. Whatever your industry, whatever your lobbying practice,
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you like the devil you know, there is what is
known as a friendly incumbent rule. Whereas most packs and
trade organizations they won't look at a challenger They want
the guy they know first of all, because let's take
a case like this, if you're running against the governor
and there's a trade association between now and March, they
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may have something that appears before the governor and they
want the governor to be friendly about it. So of
course they're going to support the government. It is a
tough thing to do, to challenge politicians. It is disruptive,
but as we have seen in the tech space and
the oil and gas space, and the communication space, and
trans and transportation space and healthcare space, disruption, while.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
It creates discontent and discomfort, it's thank you, I mean
midnight
It's that time.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
When I started the show by saying, I'm just about
to undertake a task that I'm not capable of accomplishing.
If you've listened for the entirety of the last hour,
or worse, some portion of it, you may say, is
he defending Trump? No, I'm not defending Trump, nor I'm
(00:45):
not nor am I condemning Trump. I'm making the point
that what Donald Trump feels about the death of Rob
Reiner is not important, and anyone who thinks it is
is trying to create content that will get more listeners,
(01:09):
more viewers, more readers, so they can sell their ad
space for more money, because that's what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Everybody is out here.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Like the little Hondura and Guatemalan guys on the Las
Vegas trip, who are constantly popping that little piece of
paper and trying to hand it to you the minute
you glance. First drink free at our strip club, next one,
I got two first drink free. They don't speak English.
(01:44):
They is handed the card and if you take that
card in there, he gets a buck or something from
the owner of the club because they got you in there,
and everybody's trying to get your attention. And then you
got the neon. Look over here, we got two for
one drinks for free, stay the night for free high rowers.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Then you got billboards.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Then he got cars with billboards, you got people dressed
up with billboards. Everybody's trying to get your attention. Nobody
gets your attention with a measured statement of wisdom. They
get your attention. The crazier they get, more radical, they
(02:25):
get more nutty, they get more controversial, they get what
does it matter what Donald Trump feels about Rob Reiner's death?
Does it change anything? Do you think Rob Reiner is offended?
Do you think anyone around Rob Reiner is saying, oh,
(02:45):
my goodness, Daddy loved Donald Trump and now Donald Trump
has turned on him. Do you think they're saying, why
would Donald Trump speak ill of our father, who spent
his entire life trying to destroy Donald Trump and calling
him the worst possible names. Please show Daddy some mercy
(03:07):
upon his death. Please for the decency of our daddy,
the man who said the most vile things ever Rob Reiner.
I don't think anyone is clutching their pearls over the
good name and legacy of Rob Reiner. Is it unfortunate
(03:30):
that his son gutted him and his wife? Sure, it's unfortunate.
Is it any more unfortunate than the family are than
the people who are murdered by illegal aliens every day,
who nobody seems to create an outpouring of condolences for them.
(03:54):
Is Rob Reiner's death more important because he made movies
that you liked? Is Rob Riiner's death more important because
there are other people whose kids murder them?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Happens every day.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
There are people who illegal aliens kill them. Are Muslim
terrorists or transgender terrorists? Anybody feel bad for them? Anybody
rushed to see what Trump's statement was on them? Did
you issue a statement?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Why don't you care? They've lost their child, their mother,
their father? What about every service member? What about those
just killed in Syria? Do you know their names? Did
you rush to see what Donald Trump said about their deaths?
Did you issue a statement about their deaths? Did the Democrats?
(04:46):
Did the National Review?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Oh? No?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You see, because celebrity is sacred in this country, you
don't touch the inner sanctum of the chosen tribe. The
famous people see de Niro can say anything he wants
of Trump. He can fantasize about murdering him. Alec Baldwin
(05:14):
can call his twelve year old daughter a thoughtless little pig,
and that's okay. He can still host Saturday Night Live
this Saturday, because he is royalty. These people can do
unspeakable things, horrible things, but they are our celebrities, and
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we the serfs, know our place. We know that deep
down there better than us, and that when they die,
Oh my.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
God, that's horrible. His son killed the two of them.
I feel horrible. Why you don't feel horrible? Didn't know
the man?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
That's terrible? Well did you know him? Well?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
No, but that's a terrible thing that happened. All right,
give me a minute. I'm going to tell you about
a terrible thing that happened in Iowa, very similar circumstance.
Heroin addicted kid killed his grandmother who he was living with,
left her for dead. They found her a week later.
The maggots were eating her body. Oh I didn't hear
(06:26):
about that. Yeah, And you don't give a damn either.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Do you? Because she's not famous.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Donald Trump is under no obligation to say something polite
about Rob Rainer and you're welcome, and so we're all
the other celebrities to clutch your pearls. Because Donald Trump
should be Donald Trump only when he's being Donald Trump.
(06:54):
But in other days, we need him to be prim
and proper. We need him to be a member of
the Bush family or maybe a Romney. We need him
to not be that guy. You know, this is where
we struggle. We wanted Lawrence Taylor to be Lawrence Taylor
every Sunday, but we weren't ready for Lawrence Taylor on Monday.
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We weren't ready for Mike Webster suffering till he died.
We just wanted him to snap the ball and smash
somebody so that there was an opening for Franco or
Terry Bradshaw. We want our warriors, the Morgan Latrelle's, the
Chris Kyles. We want them to be our warrior at
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the parade. We want Patton to be patent as played
by George C. Scott, but we don't want him to
slap a soldier on the face. We want him to
be absolutely beyond control, his own man, do what he
wants crazy until he does. We want everybody to be compartmentalized.
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We want him to play a part, play a role,
and the rest of the time we want them to
be like us, prim proper, sleeping soundly in our beds.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
This is.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know what's the name, we say, Michael Gouddy.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Competition is a good thing. It is good to be
reminded that we don't have kings. No literally, forget some
left wing protest. We've had governors serve a long time
in the state of Texas. Starting in nineteen ninety four.
You had George W. Bush who served until he ran
for and was elected president. You had Rick Perry, who
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served a long period of time, and since then we've
had Greg Abbott. It's very hard to dislodge a sitting
Texas governor, especially one like Abbot, who spends all his
time raising money and never actually taking a position, which
leaves people who actually care about policy very angry. But
(09:14):
we all know that's the slim minority. Low information voters
go by a sentence of how someone is doing, and
as long as they're not embroiled in any controversy, they
just kind of keep plugging along.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But we deserve better.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I'd say Ron DeSantis is a much better governor than
Greg Abbott. I think a lot of folks and it
would be a series of movement A successionists, a constitutionalists,
a Tea Party folks and people that want a secure
border and people that want better policy would say in
Texas they're disappointed in Greg Abbott, I hear that daily.
(09:53):
A number of folks have asked me to interview doctor
Pete Chambers, known as Doc, retired US Army Lieutenant colonel,
Special Forces green beret and a physician. They have described
him as a defender of freedom, as more in touch
with the values of folks who believe in the concepts
(10:14):
of freedom and the Tea Party. I've had a number
of listeners ask that we talk to Doc Chambers, and
now we will.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Doc Chambers, welcome to the program. It's good to be
or Michael is Doc. How most people that know you
and like you refer to you.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's a term of endearment you get on the battlefield,
and it kind of stuck. So it's been with me
for a while.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And what about people who don't like you? What do
they call you?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's late for dinner?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
All right, So let's start with let's introduce you to
our audience and just to a great extent in me.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I know what materials our team pulled together.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But let's start with where you were born, the time
of day, the hospital, your childhood, the thorough bio of
who Doc Chambers it is.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well. Luckily for those listening, we actually posted everything on
the website so we would dispel all the uh, you know,
why weren't you born in Texas rumors? I was born
in Missouri, Kirksville. My dad was a doctor and he
was in med school and I actually never set foot
in the state walking, but so shortly after he did
(11:27):
residency and I ended up my home wrecords Oklahoma, so
just across the Red River. But I've been in Texas
since nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Wait a minute, Sarah Fryer was born in As, she says, Missouri.
Did y'all know each other?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay, I didn't know who everybody knew each other?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
No, I didn't meet anybody there except for my mom
and dad.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
All right, So then, so then how did you end
up in Texas?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right? Well, I came down to Texas to do residency.
After my medical school. I went to you know US
in New England and graduated in ninety five, finished an
internship in ninety seven, and then ninety seven I came
to Beaumont, went to Port Arthur, worked in a couple
of hospitals, three hostels down there. University of North Texas
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has a program down there that primary care, and my
intent was to go back in the military to be
a primary care doc in the army. I already had
served once before in nineteen eighty three to nineteen ninety
as an infantry guy, you know, nothing special, just to nameless,
a guy that learned how to dig holes and terry
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a ruckstack. But after that, nine to eleven happened, and
then I went back on active duty, and that thought
we'd go down range and we would get it done
pretty quick. I can come back and set up a
family practice or a house call business. Unfortunately, we just
spent the last twenty years going back and forth to
the sandbox. So I changed my life.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Talk about that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think that's a pretty profound experience. And it sounds
like we share a lot of the same views as
to the lengths of time our nation spent there, particularly
guys like you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
How did that change you?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Oh, it changed a lot, you know, being a guy
that I came in under Ronald Reagan. You know, it
was my first president. I served utter and completely, you know,
focused on you know, red, white, blue America, Mom, mom, dad,
apple Pie, and that is that is rightly solids patriot.
My dad was a patriot World War two guy. But
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but something happened along the way where I realized, we're
not here fighting a war to defend our soil. We're
over here doing somebody else's bidding. And as a soldier,
it's not my business to change policy. I can't. I
follow orders. And then I loved my troops, and so
I stayed on the extended past my you know, I
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could have retired at twenty years, but I went and stayed,
and then twenty fifteen my last deployment, twenty fourteen, probably
my worst one down range. Just you kind of lose
your edge after a while. And war is infanity, that's tangible.
That's the way I tell people. And it's an ugly business.
And it's just unless it's on our shores and it's
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a declared war, which it was not a declared war.
Our sons and daughters don't need to be an harms
way for those for those types of actions for that
period of time without somebody in Washington, DC, or even
in the governors that allow their National Guard units to
be deployed in a non declared war. Somebody needs to
stand up, you know, on the other side of it
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and say, hey, wait a minute, what are we really
doing here? Because we saw the Demaco what happened when
we left there and left all that equipment, And of
course to me, it's not about the equipment, but that
was just the knights in the back, if you will.
So I'm not disgruntled. I have a son going in
the military. I'm just I find a hard time, I
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find a hard reason to say was it worth it?
But I believe it was worth it for us that
were on the ground because we truly learned what the
virtues of honored pristige and the spread of corps really mean,
and what patriotism really means because they fight for each
other and definitely for those back home. But we weren't
looking at somebody trying to la launch you know, boats
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onto the shores of the US proper.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
So it's a hard money for just a moment hard
Doctor Chambers is running for governor against Greg Abbott. He's
our guest, He'll just go ahead and say it sorry.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Doctor beat Chambers, known as Doc Chambers those who know him,
retired US Army Lieutenant colonel's Special Forces green beret and
a physician.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He's running for governor. He is our guest.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Doc.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Let's first start with we talked a little bit about
your bio, and we'll get back to that. But in
order to run for an office where the incumbent is
running again, you have to believe you'll do a better
job than them.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
What is Greg Abbott not doing that you would do better?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yes, sir, Well, he's not producing anything that he says
he's going to do over the last eleven years. And
for the citizens out there that really don't pay attention
to security on the border, we'll get to that. He's
promised them, you know, decreasing taxes. Now, you know, the
tax code is written in a very byzantine labyrinth code.
I've gone through with teams now Texans that care, and
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they're out here talking to me in different different avenues
to different angles of it. And really, even though he
can claimed that it's you know, it's not from the
state level, it's the local level. The conditions that he
sets at the state level, do allow for the second
and don't order effects of what's happened over eleven years,
which has increased taxes. So you know, that's that's straight
up for me. That's that's a part of security. It's
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a fiscal security. But what I saw, what I learned
during the COVID mission when we when I was sent
to the Governor's Task Force to be the liaison, watching
the amount of money wasted in the and the really
for for something that's just the common cold with a
with a you know, gain of function added to it.
It was it became a bio weapon. But uh, you know,
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really the way that the state handled it was very poor.
A lot of a lot of freedoms were taken away. Uh,
and it just and we followed, you know. Of course
the Governor I trusted him at the time I worked
in the in the task force. But then the things
that I learned afterwards and then watching it unfold, especially
when I served on Operational Loan Star, when the mandates
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came and our sons and daughters of Texas were forced
to take the shots. Uh, I stood in the gap
and said no, and they finally Sentate General down there
played this game of rock paper rank with me, and
uh he won. I was a lieutenant colonel, but he
lost ultimately because he said you're not giving enough people shots.
And I said, I'm doing in form consensor and we
helped line and then I testified to in a D
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O D case on it. We got the shop mandates dropped.
But it took you know, losing a career over it,
essentially paying benefits for me as a lieutenant colonel on
the border. You know, that was That's a fight worth having.
So I know these things. I've seen what's coming across
the border. I know we're sitting in the throes of
a color revolution in this country, which is insidious. People
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don't see it, most people, like you said, uninformed voters.
But those of us that understand it. And when I
would put my study on this thing, talking to General Flynn,
Coral West other people and said should I run, they said,
you should absolutely run. We need somebody in it that
will will at least force the function up until the
time of the primary, take the primary, and then fix
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the problem set. So that's that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
It is very unhealthy for sitting politicians not to be challenged.
You know, the reigning Super Bowl champion or World Series
champion does not begin the next season without having scrimmages,
without having competition, without challenging yourself, iron sharpens iron. I
think it is very healthy. And I think Greg Abbott,
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of all people, has grown extraordinarily arrogant and out of touch.
And I think that your message is one that will resonate.
The challenge becomes interviews like this help, but the challenge
becomes that Abbott sitting on a stockpile of cash that
of course he will spend to tell people that he's
done what he hasn't and hasn't done what he has.
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But your challenge, I suppose, is just getting out and
talking to enough voters. And from what I hear, you
are hitting the hustings pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Who we are, Yeah, voice is a little rough, fifteen
days in a row, this is my first day off,
so but we're going to continue it again. This is
like a deployment downrange that nobody's shooting at us with bullets.
It's more verbal. You know. You get the pun ins
that don't like it, and I get it. I'm willing
to take the shots, but we've got to push it.
Like I said, all the way to the primary day.
I keep pushing and forcing the function of because we
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are seeing some knee jerk reactions and that's good, that's
that's bringing it to light. And you know, we need
one point five million votes in an off cycle primary
to win. So we'll bring him under Arthur Mopoly battlefold
and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
What do you hear the most of when you're out on.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
The trail, What are people most frustrated about, most seeking,
most looking.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
For most of them and many of them are like me,
I second go around for Abbott. I trusted him. But
they're just saying, but why why is he doing this?
They want me to answer why has he not done
what he said he's going to do? And I can't
defend him. I can only say, well that there's a
lot of reasons why politicians don't do things, and a
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lot of reasons why they promise. But I would have
to be speculating to otherwise do that. But that is
the biggest thing is they're heartbroken. Many that loved him
are heartbroken, and some of them are mad at him.
And I straight up to see that in the cinemon analysis,
he's sitting at a one ut pull at thirty favorability
rating around thirty two. You know, that tells me that
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people that do look into these things, and more and
more are that do this to their homework are waking
up to just like the COVID thing, remember that, right,
So it's the country winner the Stockholm syndrome. For a while,
they fell in love with their captors as they gave
them their freedoms back. In order to win us to
come out of a scenario Stockholm syndrome, you've got to
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have little victories. And this could be a little victory.
It may not be. You know, I'm not going to
talk negative. I'm going to talk about winning a race.
But up until the time of the primary, we are
forcing the little victories, and those each and every day
when I see people that jump on our task forces,
are our commissions and help us, I see the three
in their eyes because they feel like they're doing something
and they're forcing the function.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I operate under the theory that the people should not
fear the politicians and politicians should fear the people. And
when politicians feel that they have an unchecked power, either
to do nothing or to go too far, and Abbott
has done both. I think it's healthy for people to
have an outlet for that rage and an opportunity to
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fix it. So I don't know that you can win
or lose. I don't know that anybody can. I do
think it is a very very valiant effort you are undertaking,
and I think it's important that you do it.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
You say on your website, which is Docpete Chambers dot org,
or you can just google his name, it says Texas
First always, he'll secure our border.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Talk about that, yes, sir, So the border. There's an
optic versus reality that took place on the border. It
seemed like I know, I know through different sources that
I dealt with directly, that the problem sometimes get pushed
to the right. Never you know, you've heard this before.
Never let a good crisis go to waste. So a
lot of money comes in from the federal government, it
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gets pushed to the right on the timeline and things
slow down. Trump came in. He put a turnket on
the border. The flow is decreased. That's a good thing.
But we still got a thousand tiny cuts. So we're
dealing with those. And so I when I know what
I know, the amount of an enemy combatants that are
straight up in this country. We have to secure that.
We have to do more than just strongly worded letters
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and making a declaration of foreign terrorist organization without actually putting,
you know, teeth into it. So there has to be
teeth into it. Because I'm looking at Colony Ridge and
throw over it the other day and again to get
a follow up on that in Ayras County, I'm sorry,
in Liberty County, and that place has you know, grown
to one hundred and fifty thousand people on the estimate.
We'll get the numbers as we do our homework. Here.
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You've got sharia law in Dallas. It wasn't here, you
know when I came back to Texas. So we have
to get really some teeth in this thing if we're
serious about securing the border. And there are other ideas
that are very you know, technique's tactics and practices I
wouldn't talk about, but I would not be an optic
I assure you of that, and I would give the
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authorities as do by the Article four, Section seven Texas
Constitution says the governor can to during the state.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Doc hold on just a moment.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Pete Chabers is a physician, known as Doc to those
who love him. Retired US Army Lieutenant colonel candidate for
governor of the Great State of Texas. He's our guest
coming up. Texas is a big state. It's hard to
run statewide. You've got to have a lot of money
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and a lot of energy. You've got big media markets Houston, Dallas,
West Texas, Austin, San Anton, South Texas, East Texas. The
Houston market alone is bigger than some states. When you're
running statewide in Idaho or Vermont, it's easier than running
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just in Houston alone. Add to that all the other markets.
I didn't even mention the Panhandle. It's tough, and when
you've got a sitting governor who's sitting on a pile
of cash, it's an uphill battle.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
But these battles have to be fought for the sake
of our state.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Doc Peters, Doc Peters Dock Chambers Pete Doc Chambers, because he's.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
A doctor, is our guest.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
On your website it says Texas first and always defend
parental rights.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
What does that mean to you?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
All right? Well, this this is ah this is one
of the things I noticed, especially with referendums that come
out and propositions that uh basically are asking the government
to give us permission to have the right to raise
our children. And it's really the way. The devil is
always in the details, right, And when you look at
the not just a little blurb that they give you
(25:40):
when you go across the boat. Uh, you know that
sounds really good, But when you look at the details,
and the devil's in the details. Because of course I
think sometimes the devil lives in Austin. But what I
what I see is, uh, we've got to hold the
line there. This is these are enumerated rights inherent in
the people, as the as the article WM section two says,
and it takes us and it is. It is not
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endowed by uh, you know, the governor. It's endowed by
the creator. And so that is I hold the line
firmly on that. I believe that people have uh you know,
we don't. We don't need to, like I said, Genuflex
to receive those rights.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
You talk about parental rights, you talk about medical rights
and a reference to that, and as a physician, I
get to sense that that you share. I don't want
to put words in your mouth. But my views and
maybe those of Mary Tally Boden.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You you worked through as a professional the COVID era,
where I think a lot of people lost trust and
faith and respect for what we're called the experts.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Sure is. There were four whistleblowers in the whole of
the Department of Defense, and I was one of them.
At Ron Johnson uh gave us whistleblower protection. I'll put
him put quotes around that word protection. There's still lots
of subversive things happen. But I've testified in a case,
a federal case Fields versus bod to guard those freedoms
(27:06):
that they have for medical freedom regarding fate. They didn't
want to take it because of what was in the shots.
But it goes further than that. It is not only
by regulation, but it is it is just the hippocratic
oath and everything that is. You know that we've learned
about that we do do no harm. First of all,
for this do no harm we cannot, we cannot take
(27:27):
that choice away from the patient. But we also must
Any intervention must come with an informed consent, which means
the good and the bad and the ugly of that
so when I studied it, and look, I'm just the
guy that stops bleeding on the battlefield. I'm really good
at it. I'm a flight surgeon for the Green Rice,
been deployed in combat several times, so I will say
I'm very good at that. But I'm not an immynologist
and no orbroologist, but I can learn really quickly. And
(27:50):
when I got down to their border and I'm taking
care of these soldiers, men and women of Texas, and
they are falling out because they took shots already. And
then you know, first case, twenty seven year old Miro
card Ice, second case stroke God took two years to
get rehab his voice. I had to stand in the
gap and say, no, moss right, no more. So I
went to my chain of command, went to the task
for a commander, went to the governor's office, went to
(28:12):
the State Adjutant General's office, and it was crickets. You know,
there was a congressman that you were talking about from
Houston earlier, where's a patch. I went to his office,
same thing, crickets. So it took us out of state,
the Senator to come to Texas's aid with all dispatch
in the words of William Barrett and say, hey, testify
(28:34):
on this, and we're you know, we're going to go
after this. And we did and we won. And now
the Secretary Offense says it's on law order. Now, Mary
tally Boning, you talk about great friend, I'm gonna put
her in charge. You know, we make it through this,
She'll be in charge of the Texas Medical Board and
there will maybe nobody on the board. It gives exorbitant
campaign donations to this governor because that's the fact that
(28:55):
every one of them that sits there right now. So
perhaps even demolishing, because I'm a centralizing kind of guy,
demolishing the Texas Medical Board at a great actions.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I think there are. I think that their dealings with
regard to her reveal a number of things, the problems
with that board and also her sense of keihotic willingness
to fight against no matter what the stakes. You know,
she could have easily tucked tail and walked off and
left that alone. They picked the wrong fight in her.
(29:30):
That is a tough, tough lady. I just checked while
you were talking to make sure there were six Missourians
at the Alamo.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
In cases you were wondering you probably already knew that.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
So where do we go from here? We will talk
again before the election. I wanted people to have an
opportunity to get to know a little bit about you.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I've got about two minutes left.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I'm sure you have what we call the elevator speech
to donors and to rallies. Why don't you take that
time and I'll just cut you off and we get
the break and we'll talk again before the election.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Okay, Sure, it's great talking to you. So you know,
Bob Hall taught me that's a senator in Texas. She
taught me that think of the horse you nail, your
vote counts. We need every vote in this off cycle election.
So just think of a horse you nail. For a
one of a nail, a hoof was lost, a shoe
was lost. The loss of a shoe, a horse was lost.
The loss of a horse or rider than a battle,
(30:23):
then a war was lost Texas. I need every one
of you just to get up, get to Doc Pete
Chambers dot org and get on the team and help
us out. We're taking volunteers every day to help write policy,
to help be on task forces. And again, thank you
Michael Berry for having me on and we'll talk against her.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Sounds good. Good luck out there. It's it's a big state.
But God bless you.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I've heard from a number of people who wanted to
hear from you and uh, and we'll make sure that
you are heard from again before this election. Keep up
the good work. Thank you for your service to this country.
We need good people to run for office, we really do.
And I'll tell you it is a It's a tough
tough thing to do because people are going to criticize
(31:08):
your motivations. They're going to criticize whatever you're most proud of.
They're going to criticize your appearance. They're going to criticize
the way you wear your hair or the cut of
your jib or whatever else. And the establishment doesn't like change.
(31:29):
Once they get their guy that they know his entire
staff and they know that he owes them. Change is
anathema to the political process. They like stability, not great representation,
not effectiveness in government. Whatever your industry, whatever your lobbying practice,
(31:55):
you like the devil you know, there is what is
known as a friendly incumbent rule. Whereas most packs and
trade organizations they won't look at a challenger They want
the guy they know first of all, because let's take
a case like this, if you're running against the governor
and there's a trade association between now and March, they
(32:19):
may have something that appears before the governor and they
want the governor to be friendly about it. So of
course they're going to support the government. It is a
tough thing to do, to challenge politicians. It is disruptive,
but as we have seen in the tech space and
the oil and gas space, and the communication space, and
trans and transportation space and healthcare space, disruption, while.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
It creates discontent and discomfort, it's thank you, I mean
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