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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Michael Very Show is on the air, and now a
totally random weekend review from the past.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Take a guess when this was.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I go into tax Mex restaurant and it blows my
mind and moon and they don't have chips and sauce
and you have to ask.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
For it, and I'm like, by God, the Russians have won.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
A good tex Mex experience is to walk in and
there's some guy who doesn't wait table.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
He's about four or eleven.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You sit down and he slides at basket of piping
hot tortilla chips in front of him.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Roahang Man was stabbed at a mortuary in southwest Houston.
He said, believe say that he went to look for
his mother's body, only to find several others lying in
the open.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
To discover their deceased love.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
One was left decomposing in a room with no.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Ac He described conditions as deplorable. They have nets, they
are foxes. A confrontation broke out with a mortuary worker.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Tamara's brother was stabbed and rushed to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Did he go in the back and get to night?
Oh yeah, you will fight me I'm gonna stab you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I guess what when you die, your families punishment is,
We're going.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
To do it a fewer No, not that too.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Gail King wipes away It's year as she rides along
with Katie Kerry.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
And four other fellow astronauts to the launch pad for launch.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Yeah, baby, go for launch my favorite words.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
But I hear people say, oh, it's just a rich
people say you're not looking at the bigger picture of
what is happening here.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
The concept of being an astronaut. These guys were the
best of the best.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
They were mental giants, they were physical giants. And now
we've got this costplay of Gail King.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Do you think Gail King does is therefore necessarily not impressive.
We're the prize patrol of the publishers clearing now and
we could surprise you now Publisher's clearing House, it's filing
for chapter eleven banker see protection.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know they were still around that whole setup. Man,
I'm slogged in. My life's miserable. Maybe I'll win the
publisher's and the clear happy Eastern.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
President Trump understands you've got to create an inflection point.
He's calling for an end to the filibuster so more
of his agenda will pass through the Senate. He's trying
to force votes. What the Senate likes to do, the
old boys club, including the Republicans, is say yeah, we're
for it, we just can't get it done for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
His point is, no, I want it done. Force the issue.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
We should knock out the filibuster.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
And if you did that, we'd get a voter ID,
you'd have no mail in voting, all things that make
our elections dishonest, and you get a lot of other
things having not even to do with voting. But Republicans
should knock out the philibus, and we should.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Approve a lot of things.
Speaker 8 (03:02):
You wouldn't have January thirtieth looming because you know you
have the thirtieth of January looming, you know that, right,
And if we knocked out the philibus, it would be
just a simple approval. But you have some Republicans and
they're unable to explain why, you know they if you
ask them why, they're unable to explain, they cannot win
the debate.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But they should knock out the philibus, and.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
Frankly, they should get rid of the blue slips.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Too well.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
We've heard Democrats and Republicans talk about fentanyl. The President
has declared fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
There's a lot that goes along with that. This is
a big deal.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
With this historic executive order I will sign today, we're
formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Which is what it is. No bomb does what this
is doing.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
Two hundred to three hundred thousand people die every year
that we know of, So we're formally classifying fentanyl as
a weapon of mass destruction.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Apparently, Kamala Harris and her team are preparing for a
presidential run in twenty twenty eight. That's why she's been
out calling Gavin Newsom and Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania,
racist and sexist. Axios reporting that behind the scenes, she
is working very hard to lock up the Democrat nomination
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and may I say, I hope she gets it because
it'll be fun to run against her again. This isn't
just happening in DC. This is the playbook in Democrat
run cities. It even happened where I live in Houston.
A House committee report found that DC's DEEI police Chief
Pamela Smith ordered the department to manipulate crime data to
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make the city appear safer. So, hey, sorry about your
daughter being raped and you being held at gunpoint and
your son murdered. But we're not going to report that
data to the FBI because that'll make it seem like
it's unsafe.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Here NBC four out of DC with the story.
Speaker 9 (05:11):
The report is labeled Leadership Breakdown, How DC's police chief
undermined crime data accuracy. It specifically highlights a story from
News Force Paul Wagner, who reported in August about allegations
of crime data manipulation. The report is based on interviews
with DC police commanders who claim there are pressures on
personnel to lower the classifications of crimes to create the
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impression that crime is low. It says in part that
testimony from commanders paints a troubling picture of department leadership
placing a higher priority on suppressing public reporting of crime
statistics than stopping crime itself. The report says there was
an emphasis on what's called the daily Crime Report, which
has nine categories of filling the offenses, and the chief
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was so preoccupied with the statistics of the select crimes
that were made public that she incentivized her subordinates to
lower those crimes by whatever means necessary. Commanders told the
committee that they were pressured and at times directed to
lower crime stats to lesser offenses so they would not
be included in the public reporting. It says there are
concerning accounts about a toxic management culture created by the chief,
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a culture of fear, intimidation, threats, and retaliation by Chief Smith,
and that Smith regularly took action against her subordinates who
failed to aid in the preservation of her public image.
For example, one of the commanders was asked, would you
say there was a pattern of retaliation?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Answer?
Speaker 9 (06:36):
Yes, We've had commanders who have been moved out of
their commands for you know, legitimate questions or suggestions.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
That was seen as disloyal.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
Another question to a commander, how would you characterize the
culture at the Metropolitan Police Department?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Answer toxic.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
On Monday, the chief announced she was stepping down at
the end of the year after just two years on
the job.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
On Friday, News four was first.
Speaker 9 (07:00):
To obtain a draft report from the US Attorney's Office,
which also criticized the chief and said it found evidence
of crime data manipulation and official report could be released
as soon as tomorrow. Now, the chief has said her
resignation had nothing to do with the investigations.
Speaker 10 (07:15):
My decision was not factored into anything with respect other
than the fact that it's time. I've had twenty eight
years in law enforcement. I've had some time to think
with my family. This has really been a fast paced
role because it is in a major city.
Speaker 9 (07:29):
House Overside Committee chair of James Comer said the chief
should resign today. Comerce at Chief Smith's decision to mislead
the public by manipulating crime statistics is dangerous and undermines
trust in both local leadership and law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Very interesting to me how Marjorie Taylor Green was the
biggest Trump supporter and supposedly the most maga member of Congress,
and now she's part of the never Trump rifters. She's
hanging out with the communist code pink wackos. I think
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she's angling to cash in. How does that work?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, only Nixon could go to China, as he would say, if.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You are a far writer and you'll come over and
say things that support the Left, that's very valuable cash
in your dignity.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Exactly Michael Berry's show, Let's talk about Islamophobia, shall we.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's one of those names the left, one of those
words the left loves to throw around to control the conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Transphobia, climate science, denier. It's from that same.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Playbook, misogynist, homophobe, racist. It's used to isolate and humiliate
people into submission. And if you care what people think
about you, that's what you'll do, You'll shrink. It's such
a powerful tool that even in Providence, Rhode Island, the
police chief refused to acknowledge the reports that the Brown
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University shooter yelled Allah akbar before started shoot starting shooting
because that might cause people to be angry with Muslims.
Speaker 11 (09:16):
Now there's a report shooter yelled something right before he
shot came in.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Can you tell us what that?
Speaker 10 (09:22):
What that was?
Speaker 12 (09:23):
Yes, part of the investigation, John and wolf Jem.
Speaker 11 (09:27):
The only reason I asked that though, is, for instance,
like with a uniformer, his brother recognized the writing.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
So it's possible a.
Speaker 11 (09:36):
Friend or faily member might recognize if the person said
something that was significant.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Correctly, why you don't other than the nine millimeter?
Speaker 11 (09:47):
Is there anything else inside that aboratory that you would
tell us?
Speaker 12 (09:51):
Now that's correctly listener, Like I said, earlier investigations will
bring us to evidence that we need to collect in
order to be able to prosecute that Look, with that
being said, with that being said, we're going to continue
to collect evidence and if it leads us to something
to that nature that's going to be extremely helpful for
us to identify.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Somebody will be the first ones to put it out
right now.
Speaker 13 (10:13):
Hope John's question, did the suspect yell like has been
reported and some of Rody is reporting yelling to hear.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
In the classroom.
Speaker 13 (10:23):
And how valuable have business statements been from those who survived?
Speaker 12 (10:28):
Listen, My heart goes out to the victims, It goes
out to the families, and I'll tell you that their
their their cooperation has been extremely helpful, and that, with
that being said, will continue and I'm going to respect
the fact that and I hope that they get better.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
In my heart and sold goes out to them.
Speaker 12 (10:44):
So that's something that's something that we're investigating.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
We took statements and we have to confirm that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Lydia moynihan is a financial correspondence correspondent for The New
York Post. She was on CNN with Abbie Phillips and
Abby Phillips panel of leftists.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The angry cynical crowd.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Listen as the panel pushes back at her correct assertion
that some cultures aren't compatible with Western culture.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Oh yes they are, Let them kill you.
Speaker 14 (11:15):
I think we should absolutely select the best of the best.
It should be an individual choice. But I think we
can also acknowledge there are certain cultures that are not compatible,
which ones with America ones Well, if we look at Europe. Actually,
there was a lawyer this week who argued that an
Afghan immigrant who raped a woman shouldn't be charged or
shouldn't have a penalty because his culture said that women
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weren't free an equal. We're seeing seventy seven percent of
rapes in France are from migrants. So there is a
real question that people on the right have the culture
about certain cultures.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
What are the cultures the cultures that are okay with.
Speaker 14 (11:50):
That, the cultures that are okay with female genital mutilation?
Speaker 15 (11:53):
So, I mean, is it is it Afghanistan, is it Africans?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Is it?
Speaker 15 (11:57):
What is it?
Speaker 8 (11:57):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, are we going to are we going.
Speaker 14 (11:59):
To define women have female genital mutilates?
Speaker 15 (12:02):
How are we going to define culture? What about the
people fleeing female general Mutani relation. Are you going to
allow them in? Are they allowed in? I mean, if
you are you are Somali.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
If you are Somalia, you're a woman.
Speaker 16 (12:13):
You're also we're actually.
Speaker 14 (12:15):
Trying to bring the FBI is now arrested.
Speaker 15 (12:18):
If you want to read, if you want to leave
another country Afghanistan, because you want to be able to read,
the United States says you are not allowed in because
culturally you're not compatible with this country.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
How does that make sense?
Speaker 13 (12:32):
Well that I mean, look, my grandparents came from Germany
and Poland to escape the Holocaust, and before they got here,
the whole USS Saint Louis was turned away because to
which culture was determined at that moment as non compatible.
Speaker 14 (12:45):
This is why vetting matters, though, and this is why
what I'm just.
Speaker 13 (12:48):
Saying like that, that was not okay then, and it's
not okay now. If people are fleeing, right and they
can and they can go through and they can go
through VET and they can go through that matter.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
There is an o country that takes more immigrants than
the United States, in the most generous country.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Of the world.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
We are a country of immigrants. Yes, of course, I
just want to.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Know what was compatible about white South Africans and not
the rest of them.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Right, If the argument is cultural compatibility, what would make
white South Africans culturally compatible the.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Black lives not?
Speaker 14 (13:17):
I have not seen that specific memo.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You Remember when the Biden administration ruled out their new
anti Islamophobia policy less than a month after the October
seventh attack.
Speaker 17 (13:29):
Remember, and today we take another important step forward in
our fight against hate. For years, Muslims in America and
those perceived to be Muslim have endured a disproportionate number
of hate fueled attacks. As a result of the Hamas
terrorist attack in Israel and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza,
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we have seen an uptick in anti Palestinian, anti Arab,
anti Semitic, and Islamophobic incidents across America, including the brutal
attack of a Palestinian American woman who is Muslim and
the killing of her sixty year old son, a senseless
act of violence that the Department of Justice is investigating
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as a hate crime. For so many people in our nation,
the past few days and weeks have brought about all
too familiar fears, fears that they will be targeted profiled
or attacked simply because of who they are, how they.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Worship, or how they look.
Speaker 17 (14:33):
And so today I am proud to announce the Biden
Harris Administration will develop our nation's first national strategy to
counter Islamophobia. This strategy will be a comprehensive and detailed
plan to protect Muslims and those perceived to be a
Muslim from hate, bigotry, and violence, and to address the
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concern that some government policies may discriminate against Muslims, for example,
the so called Muslim ban, which President Biden revoked on
our first day in office.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
They are so worried if someone's going to be upset
with Muslims after Muslims killed you.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And again we go back to the genius bit by
Norm MacDonald.
Speaker 18 (15:18):
Well, I can't say my friend's name, but he said
his biggest fear is that Isis or some terrorist group
like that will get a hold of a dirty bomb
and exploded over a major city within the United States
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and kill tens of millions of people, because then the
blowback against innocent Muslims would be absolutely terrible. Yes, that's true,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I've been good fun, Michael Berry.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I've been fighting acquisitions after acquisition. Another tactic that the
left loves to use is what's called.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
What about ism.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
In this case it's the brother lover ilhan Omar when
she was on MSNBC.
Speaker 13 (16:23):
A lot of conservatives in particular would say that the
rise in Islamophobia is a result.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Not of hate, but of fear.
Speaker 16 (16:28):
A legitimate fear, they say, of quote unquote Jadis terrorism,
whether it's Fort Hood or Sam Bernardino or the recent
truck attack in New York. What do you say to them?
I would say, our country should be more fearful of
of weight man across our country because they are actually
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crossing most of the deaths within this country. And so
if fear was the driving force of policies America Safe
American seat inside of this country, we should be profiling,
monitoring and uh and and creating policies to fight the
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righticalization of weight men.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Terrible thing happened a few days ago in Australia. Sad
to watch their Prime Minister was addressing the media after
the Bondie Beach attack when he made sure to bring
up the one thing that caused it, right wing extremism.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Except that's not what caused it.
Speaker 19 (17:35):
We take Aja's advice very seriously. We work closely with them.
We're se regular updates as well. The Director General of
Asia has warned about a range of threats, but it
any Semitism, the rise of right wing extremist groups as well,
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and we continue to work closely with our security agencies.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And of course the left wants to take away your
guns because if they can take away your guns, they
can control you. Never forget this, folks. Some people don't
seem to understand it. The Second Amendment to the United
States Constitution was not the right to own guns to hunt.
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So when someone says you don't need an AK forty
seven or an AR fifteen to hunt, the Second Amendment
is not a protection to hunt. It is a protection
to kill a tyrannical government, make no mistake about that.
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MSNBC's Katie Turr praised the leader of Australia for vowing
to crack down on Muslim tear Oh sorry, on.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Guns because they want to take away your guns.
Speaker 20 (18:58):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Why aren't we going to fix it?
Speaker 20 (19:00):
They're trying to do something about it in Australia. Again,
on the issue of guns, it only took hours after
two gunmen open fire on and killed Jews celebrating Honkkah
at the beach, for Prime Minister Anthony Albinezi to promise reforms.
Speaker 19 (19:15):
We are stronger than the klits who did this, and
I want to conclude finally by saying that the government
is prepared to take whatever action is necessary. Included in
that is the need for tougher gun laws.
Speaker 20 (19:31):
Politicians there quickly realizing that the strict gun laws the
country enacted after a mass murder back in nineteen ninety
six needed updating. So why aren't we addressing anything here?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Why not here?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Meanwhile, four members of a liberal group were arrested and
charged for planning a series of bomb attacks across southern
California on New Year's Eve coming up. Those four members
were part of a group known as the Turtle Island
Liberation Front, a far left pro Palestine, anti government, anti
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capitalist group. Here's Bill Asaley, the Trump Administration's man on
the ground, the US attorney for the area.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
The defendants are all radical anti government members of the
Turtle Island Liberation Front, which, according to their own social media,
is an anti capitalist, anti government movement that calls for
their associates to rise up and fight back against capitalism.
One of the leaders of the organization, defendant Audrey Carroll,
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helped organize an even more radical faction of the group
called the Order of the Black Lotus. Each of the
defendants charged today was also a member of the Order
of the Black Lotus. Carroll described this group to her
co conspirators as everything radical. As detailed in the federal
complaint which we will now make public. In November twenty
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twenty five, defendant Carroll created a d tailed bombing plot
to use explosive devices to attack five or more locations
across southern California on this upcoming.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
New Year's Eve.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Carol and her co defendant Zachary Page led the effort
to obtain and build the bombs and to recruit others
to join in their plot. Carol's bomb plot was explicit.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
It included a.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Step by step instructions to build IEDs or improvised explosive devices,
and listed multiple targets across Orange County and Los Angeles.
Carol also made clear her desires, She said, quote, what
we are doing will be considered a terrorist act. Carol
and Page also discussed plans for follow up attacks after
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their bombings, which included plans to a target ice agents
and vehicles with pipe bombs. Carol stated that those plans
would quote take some of them out and scare the rest.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I really think we're just at the tip of the
iceberg with this Somali fraud story in Minnesota, and I
think I think we're going to get I think I
think Trump is determined to expose what exactly is happening there,
and I don't know who it's going to involve.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Will it involve Keith Ellison, Will.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It involve Illhan Omar, Will it involve Timmy Wats We'll
see Here is Senator John Kennedy from wisy in explaining
how this level of fraud was able to occur.
Speaker 21 (22:25):
Feeding our futures went to the state and said, if
you stopped giving us this month, we're going to call
you racistem We're going to see you can.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
You don't want to be in the news.
Speaker 21 (22:35):
Now here's what you said, Well, why didn't the employees
do something? They did they told the people higher up,
the people with the flags in their office, and you
know what, they did nothing. You know why, Well, here's
what the legislative Aulifer in Minnesota said. He said that
the threat of litigation and the negative press affected how
the state politicians used their regulatory Powell and here's what
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a fraud investor gator in the Attorney General's office set.
She said, there is a perception that I'm quoting now,
that forcefully tackling this issue would cause political backlash from
the Somali community, which is a core voting block for Democrat.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Let's look at this Minnesota Somali fraud ring for a moment.
CBS News obtained a photo of the lavish spending by
one of the Minnesota fraudsters who stole nearly forty eight
million dollars through the now infamous Feeding our Future fraud scheme.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Always has a pretty name, doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
A honeymoon in the Maldives, A fleet of luxury cars.
Here's a box with more than two hundred and seventy
thousand dollars in cash. This was all evidence from a
new Trova files obtained exclusively by CBS News showing how
a group of convicted Minnesota fraudsters spent taxpayer dollars. One
text message reads, you are going to be the richest
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twenty five year old.
Speaker 22 (23:57):
We're not even at the end of the beginning of
our pursuit of the stolen money and of the people
who stole it.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
US Attorney Daniel Rosen leads the office digging into the
wave of COVID era fraud that hit Minnesota. So how
much money are we talking about stolen from the American taxpayer?
Speaker 22 (24:16):
I can say with great comfort, well and excessive a
billion dollars.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
In the past three years, eighty seven defendants have been charged,
sixty one convicted. The majority of them are Somali American
Minnesota has the nation's largest Somali population. The perpetrators are
accused of ripping off state run programs intended to feed
low income kids, house the disabled, and provide services to
autistic children.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
This was a get rich scheme.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Andy Luger was the US attorney who first examined this fraud.
He left in January.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
One of the things we discovered is that a number
of the people involved we're buying investment property resort property
in Kenya.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Wire transfers reviewed by CBS News also show more than
one million DAR dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Went to Chinese banks.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
The Trump administration has said it's investigating whether any of
the money fell into the hands of the air groups.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Michael everybody hates lawyers.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
They love to quote the line from Shakespeare, and I
remind them, well, I have two law degrees. It was
the best education I ever got. And I loved practicing law,
and I love studying law, and law is important. And oh,
by the way, the law is horrible until one of
those pharmaceutical companies injected you with poison, and now you
want to know if there's something you can do about it,
or a doctor botched a procedure on you, or Donald
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Trump was wrongfully indicted and now you hope he gets
a good defense. Lawyers are advocates, nothing more, nothing less.
They are people who speak on our behalf. It's a
noble calling. The problem is bad people got into it
and ruined it for the rest of us. But we
here at the Michael Berry Show love lawyers, the good ones,
because they do good work. Just like a preacher, a teacher,
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a police officer. Law can be very good people and
they're necessary, and we have a good one today. His
name is Anhella of Valencia. He's senior counsel of the
group called Liberty Justice Center, and Liberty Justice Center is
one of these things that we've had some of their
folks on before that do really good work as advocacy
for people who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford them.
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Thank goodness that people like you put up money so
that these people can be paid to work. On behalf
of people who are in a situation that we really
want their case litigated because it's a message to the
rest of society. The case is Abraham versus Arizona Board
of Regents. On hell, why don't you start with what
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this case is about and why it should matter to
every one of us.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Sure, yeah, it's good to be with you.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
So essentially this case is with file on behalf of
doctor Matthew A.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Braham.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
He is a.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Tenured English professor the University of Arizona. He is pursuing
the Arizona Board of Regents for unlawful retaliation and racist
discrimination under a federal statute we call Title seven.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Essentially, he alleges that the.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
University blacklisted and excluded him from prestigious faculty committees like
one called the Committee on Academic Freedom and Tenure only
because he opposed what he believed were race based and
THEI driven hiring and selection practices, and for filing grievances
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and losses about it. So essentially he was punished for
speaking out against policies he saw as discriminatory.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
We have a situation here.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Where he was applying in the past, and this goes
back to twenty twenty two. He was applying to several
jobs within the the college and he noticed that he
was being consistently passed over in favor of lesser qualified
individuals that were of other races and other backgrounds. Once
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he started asking questions about those hiring practices, he got blacklisted.
He filed grievances, He filed what we call a public
records suit, essentially requesting information about the hiring practices. He
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then filed a grievance at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
the EOC. Once he did all of that protected activity,
all of that lawful, legitimate questioning, he was blacklisted and
he was excluded from serving on a couple of faculty
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committees for.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
That reason and because he spoke up.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Right, So, what we're talking about to the layman who's
driving home from work right now is reverse discrimination.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Because this guy's white.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
This guy is.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Actually he is, He's American, but because of Indian Indian
American descent, he was passed over in favor of people
that were of other races, mostly his back, okay, all right,
at the University of Arizona.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And so the theory or his assertion or what he
suspected was, well, they're looking for non white people. They're
trying to do a level up for Hispanics and blacks.
And because Indian Americans do so well here, they don't
feel like I deserve the promotion or need the promot
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so they're keeping me down and lifting someone above me
who otherwise would not have been promoted. And that is,
in its purest sense, discrimination, regardless of what someone's skin
color is, right.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Right, right, absolutely, And the really bad thing about this
case is that he got punished, retaliated, retaliated against, or
speaking out for asking valid, lawful questions about hiring practices.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Which everyone should be able to do. Hey, I'm curious
why I was passed over. I've done everything that I
think I should, and you know what, maybe they have
a legitimate reason to pass him over. What they can't
do and what raises the red flags is when you
start punishing someone for asking a question as to what
is happening. Because I'm sure there are a thousand details
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you could provide, and certainly he could provide as to
telltale signs that he was being looked over, whether it's
whispers in the hallway or group emails he's being removed from.
And this is his career. He has every right uh
to to and prerogative to be able to advocate on
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his own behalf right, And so where are we now
in this case?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
So the complaint, the complaint got filed just recently.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
The Arizona Board of Regions has until late January.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
To file their response.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
They could answer the complaint or file what we call
in motion to the dismiss which means basically, they might
request the court to dismiss a case.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Obviously we would oppose that. So that's that's what's next
to next, uh next to this case.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And your hope in taking this case, as the Liberty
Justice Center, is that this is bigger than one individual.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
What do you hope comes of this?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
What do you want the world to see out of
this that changes behaviors in the future.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Right, So, while this case it's about doctor Matthew Abraham.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
It's really about more than that.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
It's about whether in secutions of higher education like universities
can punish faculty members for speaking truth to power, especially
when it comes to policies that undermine merit and fairness
in the name of DEI. In this case, when we
were talking about DEI and inclusion, this is a case
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where literally the result was not an inclusion, it was
exclusion because doctor Matthew Abraham was excluded from serving on
these committees for asking questions.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
It is.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It's an interesting practice you have because you don't have
to have people come through the door who have a reason,
no chance of monetary compensation, so that you can make
a living. People have put up their money behind the
Liberty Justice Center so that you could take cases like
this without regard to whether there is a financial windfall
at the end of the day. And that's what we
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call standing on principle and we are always a fan
of that unheld Valencia. Well look forward to hearing how
the case turns out. It is known as Abraham versus
Arizona Border Regions. If you would like to check it out,
and I encourage you to support the Liberty Justice Center.
Keep up the good fight. Good sirs, good good, thank you,
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and good night.
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Michael Very Show is on the air, and now a
totally random weekend review from the past.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Take a guess when this was.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I go into tax Mex restaurant and it blows my
mind and moon and they don't have chips and sauce
and you have to ask.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
For it, and I'm like, by God, the Russians have won.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
A good tex Mex experience is to walk in and
there's some guy who doesn't wait table.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
He's about four or eleven.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You sit down and he slides at basket of piping
hot tortilla chips in front of him.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Roahang Man was stabbed at a mortuary in southwest Houston.
He said, believe say that he went to look for
his mother's body, only to find several others lying in
the open.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
To discover their deceased love.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
One was left decomposing in a room with no.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Ac He described conditions as deplorable. They have nets, they
are foxes. A confrontation broke out with a mortuary worker.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Tamara's brother was stabbed and rushed to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Did he go in the back and get to night?
Oh yeah, you will fight me I'm gonna stab you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I guess what when you die, your families punishment is,
We're going.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
To do it a fewer No, not that too.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Gail King wipes away It's year as she rides along
with Katie Kerry.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
And four other fellow astronauts to the launch pad for launch.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Yeah, baby, go for launch my favorite words.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
But I hear people say, oh, it's just a rich
people say you're not looking at the bigger picture of
what is happening here.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
The concept of being an astronaut. These guys were the
best of the best.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
They were mental giants, they were physical giants. And now
we've got this costplay of Gail King.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Do you think Gail King does is therefore necessarily not impressive.
We're the prize patrol of the publishers clearing now and
we could surprise you now Publisher's clearing House, it's filing
for chapter eleven banker see protection.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know they were still around that whole setup. Man,
I'm slogged in. My life's miserable. Maybe I'll win the
publisher's and the clear happy Eastern.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
President Trump understands you've got to create an inflection point.
He's calling for an end to the filibuster so more
of his agenda will pass through the Senate. He's trying
to force votes. What the Senate likes to do, the
old boys club, including the Republicans, is say yeah, we're
for it, we just can't get it done for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
His point is, no, I want it done. Force the issue.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
We should knock out the filibuster.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
And if you did that, we'd get a voter ID,
you'd have no mail in voting, all things that make
our elections dishonest, and you get a lot of other
things having not even to do with voting. But Republicans
should knock out the philibus, and we should.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Approve a lot of things.
Speaker 8 (03:02):
You wouldn't have January thirtieth looming because you know you
have the thirtieth of January looming, you know that, right,
And if we knocked out the philibus, it would be
just a simple approval. But you have some Republicans and
they're unable to explain why, you know they if you
ask them why, they're unable to explain, they cannot win
the debate.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But they should knock out the philibus, and.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
Frankly, they should get rid of the blue slips.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Too well.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
We've heard Democrats and Republicans talk about fentanyl. The President
has declared fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
There's a lot that goes along with that. This is
a big deal.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
With this historic executive order I will sign today, we're
formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Which is what it is. No bomb does what this
is doing.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
Two hundred to three hundred thousand people die every year
that we know of, So we're formally classifying fentanyl as
a weapon of mass destruction.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Apparently, Kamala Harris and her team are preparing for a
presidential run in twenty twenty eight. That's why she's been
out calling Gavin Newsom and Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania,
racist and sexist. Axios reporting that behind the scenes, she
is working very hard to lock up the Democrat nomination
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and may I say, I hope she gets it because
it'll be fun to run against her again. This isn't
just happening in DC. This is the playbook in Democrat
run cities. It even happened where I live in Houston.
A House committee report found that DC's DEEI police Chief
Pamela Smith ordered the department to manipulate crime data to
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make the city appear safer. So, hey, sorry about your
daughter being raped and you being held at gunpoint and
your son murdered. But we're not going to report that
data to the FBI because that'll make it seem like
it's unsafe.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Here NBC four out of DC with the story.
Speaker 9 (05:11):
The report is labeled Leadership Breakdown, How DC's police chief
undermined crime data accuracy. It specifically highlights a story from
News Force Paul Wagner, who reported in August about allegations
of crime data manipulation. The report is based on interviews
with DC police commanders who claim there are pressures on
personnel to lower the classifications of crimes to create the
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impression that crime is low. It says in part that
testimony from commanders paints a troubling picture of department leadership
placing a higher priority on suppressing public reporting of crime
statistics than stopping crime itself. The report says there was
an emphasis on what's called the daily Crime Report, which
has nine categories of filling the offenses, and the chief
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was so preoccupied with the statistics of the select crimes
that were made public that she incentivized her subordinates to
lower those crimes by whatever means necessary. Commanders told the
committee that they were pressured and at times directed to
lower crime stats to lesser offenses so they would not
be included in the public reporting. It says there are
concerning accounts about a toxic management culture created by the chief,
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a culture of fear, intimidation, threats, and retaliation by Chief Smith,
and that Smith regularly took action against her subordinates who
failed to aid in the preservation of her public image.
For example, one of the commanders was asked, would you
say there was a pattern of retaliation?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Answer?
Speaker 9 (06:36):
Yes, We've had commanders who have been moved out of
their commands for you know, legitimate questions or suggestions.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
That was seen as disloyal.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
Another question to a commander, how would you characterize the
culture at the Metropolitan Police Department?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Answer toxic.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
On Monday, the chief announced she was stepping down at
the end of the year after just two years on
the job.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
On Friday, News four was first.
Speaker 9 (07:00):
To obtain a draft report from the US Attorney's Office,
which also criticized the chief and said it found evidence
of crime data manipulation and official report could be released
as soon as tomorrow. Now, the chief has said her
resignation had nothing to do with the investigations.
Speaker 10 (07:15):
My decision was not factored into anything with respect other
than the fact that it's time. I've had twenty eight
years in law enforcement. I've had some time to think
with my family. This has really been a fast paced
role because it is in a major city.
Speaker 9 (07:29):
House Overside Committee chair of James Comer said the chief
should resign today. Comerce at Chief Smith's decision to mislead
the public by manipulating crime statistics is dangerous and undermines
trust in both local leadership and law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Very interesting to me how Marjorie Taylor Green was the
biggest Trump supporter and supposedly the most maga member of Congress,
and now she's part of the never Trump rifters. She's
hanging out with the communist code pink wackos. I think
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she's angling to cash in. How does that work?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, only Nixon could go to China, as he would say, if.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You are a far writer and you'll come over and
say things that support the Left, that's very valuable cash
in your dignity.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Exactly Michael Berry's show, Let's talk about Islamophobia, shall we.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's one of those names the left, one of those
words the left loves to throw around to control the conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Transphobia, climate science, denier. It's from that same.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Playbook, misogynist, homophobe, racist. It's used to isolate and humiliate
people into submission. And if you care what people think
about you, that's what you'll do, You'll shrink. It's such
a powerful tool that even in Providence, Rhode Island, the
police chief refused to acknowledge the reports that the Brown
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University shooter yelled Allah akbar before started shoot starting shooting
because that might cause people to be angry with Muslims.
Speaker 11 (09:16):
Now there's a report shooter yelled something right before he
shot came in.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Can you tell us what that?
Speaker 10 (09:22):
What that was?
Speaker 12 (09:23):
Yes, part of the investigation, John and wolf Jem.
Speaker 11 (09:27):
The only reason I asked that though, is, for instance,
like with a uniformer, his brother recognized the writing.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
So it's possible a.
Speaker 11 (09:36):
Friend or faily member might recognize if the person said
something that was significant.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Correctly, why you don't other than the nine millimeter?
Speaker 11 (09:47):
Is there anything else inside that aboratory that you would
tell us?
Speaker 12 (09:51):
Now that's correctly listener, Like I said, earlier investigations will
bring us to evidence that we need to collect in
order to be able to prosecute that Look, with that
being said, with that being said, we're going to continue
to collect evidence and if it leads us to something
to that nature that's going to be extremely helpful for
us to identify.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Somebody will be the first ones to put it out
right now.
Speaker 13 (10:13):
Hope John's question, did the suspect yell like has been
reported and some of Rody is reporting yelling to hear.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
In the classroom.
Speaker 13 (10:23):
And how valuable have business statements been from those who survived?
Speaker 12 (10:28):
Listen, My heart goes out to the victims, It goes
out to the families, and I'll tell you that their
their their cooperation has been extremely helpful, and that, with
that being said, will continue and I'm going to respect
the fact that and I hope that they get better.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
In my heart and sold goes out to them.
Speaker 12 (10:44):
So that's something that's something that we're investigating.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
We took statements and we have to confirm that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Lydia moynihan is a financial correspondence correspondent for The New
York Post. She was on CNN with Abbie Phillips and
Abby Phillips panel of leftists.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The angry cynical crowd.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Listen as the panel pushes back at her correct assertion
that some cultures aren't compatible with Western culture.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Oh yes they are, Let them kill you.
Speaker 14 (11:15):
I think we should absolutely select the best of the best.
It should be an individual choice. But I think we
can also acknowledge there are certain cultures that are not compatible,
which ones with America ones Well, if we look at Europe. Actually,
there was a lawyer this week who argued that an
Afghan immigrant who raped a woman shouldn't be charged or
shouldn't have a penalty because his culture said that women
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weren't free an equal. We're seeing seventy seven percent of
rapes in France are from migrants. So there is a
real question that people on the right have the culture
about certain cultures.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
What are the cultures the cultures that are okay with.
Speaker 14 (11:50):
That, the cultures that are okay with female genital mutilation?
Speaker 15 (11:53):
So, I mean, is it is it Afghanistan, is it Africans?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Is it?
Speaker 15 (11:57):
What is it?
Speaker 8 (11:57):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, are we going to are we going.
Speaker 14 (11:59):
To define women have female genital mutilates?
Speaker 15 (12:02):
How are we going to define culture? What about the
people fleeing female general Mutani relation. Are you going to
allow them in? Are they allowed in? I mean, if
you are you are Somali.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
If you are Somalia, you're a woman.
Speaker 16 (12:13):
You're also we're actually.
Speaker 14 (12:15):
Trying to bring the FBI is now arrested.
Speaker 15 (12:18):
If you want to read, if you want to leave
another country Afghanistan, because you want to be able to read,
the United States says you are not allowed in because
culturally you're not compatible with this country.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
How does that make sense?
Speaker 13 (12:32):
Well that I mean, look, my grandparents came from Germany
and Poland to escape the Holocaust, and before they got here,
the whole USS Saint Louis was turned away because to
which culture was determined at that moment as non compatible.
Speaker 14 (12:45):
This is why vetting matters, though, and this is why
what I'm just.
Speaker 13 (12:48):
Saying like that, that was not okay then, and it's
not okay now. If people are fleeing, right and they
can and they can go through and they can go
through VET and they can go through that matter.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
There is an o country that takes more immigrants than
the United States, in the most generous country.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Of the world.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
We are a country of immigrants. Yes, of course, I
just want to.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Know what was compatible about white South Africans and not
the rest of them.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Right, If the argument is cultural compatibility, what would make
white South Africans culturally compatible the.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Black lives not?
Speaker 14 (13:17):
I have not seen that specific memo.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You Remember when the Biden administration ruled out their new
anti Islamophobia policy less than a month after the October
seventh attack.
Speaker 17 (13:29):
Remember, and today we take another important step forward in
our fight against hate. For years, Muslims in America and
those perceived to be Muslim have endured a disproportionate number
of hate fueled attacks. As a result of the Hamas
terrorist attack in Israel and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza,
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we have seen an uptick in anti Palestinian, anti Arab,
anti Semitic, and Islamophobic incidents across America, including the brutal
attack of a Palestinian American woman who is Muslim and
the killing of her sixty year old son, a senseless
act of violence that the Department of Justice is investigating
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as a hate crime. For so many people in our nation,
the past few days and weeks have brought about all
too familiar fears, fears that they will be targeted profiled
or attacked simply because of who they are, how they.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Worship, or how they look.
Speaker 17 (14:33):
And so today I am proud to announce the Biden
Harris Administration will develop our nation's first national strategy to
counter Islamophobia. This strategy will be a comprehensive and detailed
plan to protect Muslims and those perceived to be a
Muslim from hate, bigotry, and violence, and to address the
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concern that some government policies may discriminate against Muslims, for example,
the so called Muslim ban, which President Biden revoked on
our first day in office.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
They are so worried if someone's going to be upset
with Muslims after Muslims killed you.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And again we go back to the genius bit by
Norm MacDonald.
Speaker 18 (15:18):
Well, I can't say my friend's name, but he said
his biggest fear is that Isis or some terrorist group
like that will get a hold of a dirty bomb
and exploded over a major city within the United States
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and kill tens of millions of people, because then the
blowback against innocent Muslims would be absolutely terrible. Yes, that's true,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I've been good fun, Michael Berry.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I've been fighting acquisitions after acquisition. Another tactic that the
left loves to use is what's called.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
What about ism.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
In this case it's the brother lover ilhan Omar when
she was on MSNBC.
Speaker 13 (16:23):
A lot of conservatives in particular would say that the
rise in Islamophobia is a result.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Not of hate, but of fear.
Speaker 16 (16:28):
A legitimate fear, they say, of quote unquote Jadis terrorism,
whether it's Fort Hood or Sam Bernardino or the recent
truck attack in New York. What do you say to them?
I would say, our country should be more fearful of
of weight man across our country because they are actually
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crossing most of the deaths within this country. And so
if fear was the driving force of policies America Safe
American seat inside of this country, we should be profiling,
monitoring and uh and and creating policies to fight the
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righticalization of weight men.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Terrible thing happened a few days ago in Australia. Sad
to watch their Prime Minister was addressing the media after
the Bondie Beach attack when he made sure to bring
up the one thing that caused it, right wing extremism.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Except that's not what caused it.
Speaker 19 (17:35):
We take Aja's advice very seriously. We work closely with them.
We're se regular updates as well. The Director General of
Asia has warned about a range of threats, but it
any Semitism, the rise of right wing extremist groups as well,
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and we continue to work closely with our security agencies.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And of course the left wants to take away your
guns because if they can take away your guns, they
can control you. Never forget this, folks. Some people don't
seem to understand it. The Second Amendment to the United
States Constitution was not the right to own guns to hunt.
(18:23):
So when someone says you don't need an AK forty
seven or an AR fifteen to hunt, the Second Amendment
is not a protection to hunt. It is a protection
to kill a tyrannical government, make no mistake about that.
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MSNBC's Katie Turr praised the leader of Australia for vowing
to crack down on Muslim tear Oh sorry, on.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Guns because they want to take away your guns.
Speaker 20 (18:58):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Why aren't we going to fix it?
Speaker 20 (19:00):
They're trying to do something about it in Australia. Again,
on the issue of guns, it only took hours after
two gunmen open fire on and killed Jews celebrating Honkkah
at the beach, for Prime Minister Anthony Albinezi to promise reforms.
Speaker 19 (19:15):
We are stronger than the klits who did this, and
I want to conclude finally by saying that the government
is prepared to take whatever action is necessary. Included in
that is the need for tougher gun laws.
Speaker 20 (19:31):
Politicians there quickly realizing that the strict gun laws the
country enacted after a mass murder back in nineteen ninety
six needed updating. So why aren't we addressing anything here?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Why not here?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Meanwhile, four members of a liberal group were arrested and
charged for planning a series of bomb attacks across southern
California on New Year's Eve coming up. Those four members
were part of a group known as the Turtle Island
Liberation Front, a far left pro Palestine, anti government, anti
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capitalist group. Here's Bill Asaley, the Trump Administration's man on
the ground, the US attorney for the area.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
The defendants are all radical anti government members of the
Turtle Island Liberation Front, which, according to their own social media,
is an anti capitalist, anti government movement that calls for
their associates to rise up and fight back against capitalism.
One of the leaders of the organization, defendant Audrey Carroll,
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helped organize an even more radical faction of the group
called the Order of the Black Lotus. Each of the
defendants charged today was also a member of the Order
of the Black Lotus. Carroll described this group to her
co conspirators as everything radical. As detailed in the federal
complaint which we will now make public. In November twenty
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twenty five, defendant Carroll created a d tailed bombing plot
to use explosive devices to attack five or more locations
across southern California on this upcoming.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
New Year's Eve.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Carol and her co defendant Zachary Page led the effort
to obtain and build the bombs and to recruit others
to join in their plot. Carol's bomb plot was explicit.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
It included a.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Step by step instructions to build IEDs or improvised explosive devices,
and listed multiple targets across Orange County and Los Angeles.
Carol also made clear her desires, She said, quote, what
we are doing will be considered a terrorist act. Carol
and Page also discussed plans for follow up attacks after
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their bombings, which included plans to a target ice agents
and vehicles with pipe bombs. Carol stated that those plans
would quote take some of them out and scare the rest.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I really think we're just at the tip of the
iceberg with this Somali fraud story in Minnesota, and I
think I think we're going to get I think I
think Trump is determined to expose what exactly is happening there,
and I don't know who it's going to involve.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Will it involve Keith Ellison, Will.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It involve Illhan Omar, Will it involve Timmy Wats We'll
see Here is Senator John Kennedy from wisy in explaining
how this level of fraud was able to occur.
Speaker 21 (22:25):
Feeding our futures went to the state and said, if
you stopped giving us this month, we're going to call
you racistem We're going to see you can.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
You don't want to be in the news.
Speaker 21 (22:35):
Now here's what you said, Well, why didn't the employees
do something? They did they told the people higher up,
the people with the flags in their office, and you
know what, they did nothing. You know why, Well, here's
what the legislative Aulifer in Minnesota said. He said that
the threat of litigation and the negative press affected how
the state politicians used their regulatory Powell and here's what
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a fraud investor gator in the Attorney General's office set.
She said, there is a perception that I'm quoting now,
that forcefully tackling this issue would cause political backlash from
the Somali community, which is a core voting block for Democrat.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Let's look at this Minnesota Somali fraud ring for a moment.
CBS News obtained a photo of the lavish spending by
one of the Minnesota fraudsters who stole nearly forty eight
million dollars through the now infamous Feeding our Future fraud scheme.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Always has a pretty name, doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
A honeymoon in the Maldives, A fleet of luxury cars.
Here's a box with more than two hundred and seventy
thousand dollars in cash. This was all evidence from a
new Trova files obtained exclusively by CBS News showing how
a group of convicted Minnesota fraudsters spent taxpayer dollars. One
text message reads, you are going to be the richest
(23:55):
twenty five year old.
Speaker 22 (23:57):
We're not even at the end of the beginning of
our pursuit of the stolen money and of the people
who stole it.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
US Attorney Daniel Rosen leads the office digging into the
wave of COVID era fraud that hit Minnesota. So how
much money are we talking about stolen from the American taxpayer?
Speaker 22 (24:16):
I can say with great comfort, well and excessive a
billion dollars.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
In the past three years, eighty seven defendants have been charged,
sixty one convicted. The majority of them are Somali American
Minnesota has the nation's largest Somali population. The perpetrators are
accused of ripping off state run programs intended to feed
low income kids, house the disabled, and provide services to
autistic children.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
This was a get rich scheme.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Andy Luger was the US attorney who first examined this fraud.
He left in January.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
One of the things we discovered is that a number
of the people involved we're buying investment property resort property
in Kenya.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Wire transfers reviewed by CBS News also show more than
one million DAR dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Went to Chinese banks.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
The Trump administration has said it's investigating whether any of
the money fell into the hands of the air groups.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Michael everybody hates lawyers.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
They love to quote the line from Shakespeare, and I
remind them, well, I have two law degrees. It was
the best education I ever got. And I loved practicing law,
and I love studying law, and law is important. And oh,
by the way, the law is horrible until one of
those pharmaceutical companies injected you with poison, and now you
want to know if there's something you can do about it,
or a doctor botched a procedure on you, or Donald
(25:34):
Trump was wrongfully indicted and now you hope he gets
a good defense. Lawyers are advocates, nothing more, nothing less.
They are people who speak on our behalf. It's a
noble calling. The problem is bad people got into it
and ruined it for the rest of us. But we
here at the Michael Berry Show love lawyers, the good ones,
because they do good work. Just like a preacher, a teacher,
(25:58):
a police officer. Law can be very good people and
they're necessary, and we have a good one today. His
name is Anhella of Valencia. He's senior counsel of the
group called Liberty Justice Center, and Liberty Justice Center is
one of these things that we've had some of their
folks on before that do really good work as advocacy
for people who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford them.
(26:20):
Thank goodness that people like you put up money so
that these people can be paid to work. On behalf
of people who are in a situation that we really
want their case litigated because it's a message to the
rest of society. The case is Abraham versus Arizona Board
of Regents. On hell, why don't you start with what
(26:41):
this case is about and why it should matter to
every one of us.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Sure, yeah, it's good to be with you.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
So essentially this case is with file on behalf of
doctor Matthew A.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Braham.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
He is a.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Tenured English professor the University of Arizona. He is pursuing
the Arizona Board of Regents for unlawful retaliation and racist
discrimination under a federal statute we call Title seven.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Essentially, he alleges that the.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
University blacklisted and excluded him from prestigious faculty committees like
one called the Committee on Academic Freedom and Tenure only
because he opposed what he believed were race based and
THEI driven hiring and selection practices, and for filing grievances
(27:39):
and losses about it. So essentially he was punished for
speaking out against policies he saw as discriminatory.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
We have a situation here.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Where he was applying in the past, and this goes
back to twenty twenty two. He was applying to several
jobs within the the college and he noticed that he
was being consistently passed over in favor of lesser qualified
individuals that were of other races and other backgrounds. Once
(28:13):
he started asking questions about those hiring practices, he got blacklisted.
He filed grievances, He filed what we call a public
records suit, essentially requesting information about the hiring practices. He
(28:37):
then filed a grievance at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
the EOC. Once he did all of that protected activity,
all of that lawful, legitimate questioning, he was blacklisted and
he was excluded from serving on a couple of faculty
(28:58):
committees for.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
That reason and because he spoke up.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Right, So, what we're talking about to the layman who's
driving home from work right now is reverse discrimination.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Because this guy's white.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
This guy is.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Actually he is, He's American, but because of Indian Indian
American descent, he was passed over in favor of people
that were of other races, mostly his back, okay, all right,
at the University of Arizona.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And so the theory or his assertion or what he
suspected was, well, they're looking for non white people. They're
trying to do a level up for Hispanics and blacks.
And because Indian Americans do so well here, they don't
feel like I deserve the promotion or need the promot
(30:00):
so they're keeping me down and lifting someone above me
who otherwise would not have been promoted. And that is,
in its purest sense, discrimination, regardless of what someone's skin
color is, right.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Right, right, absolutely, And the really bad thing about this
case is that he got punished, retaliated, retaliated against, or
speaking out for asking valid, lawful questions about hiring practices.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Which everyone should be able to do. Hey, I'm curious
why I was passed over. I've done everything that I
think I should, and you know what, maybe they have
a legitimate reason to pass him over. What they can't
do and what raises the red flags is when you
start punishing someone for asking a question as to what
is happening. Because I'm sure there are a thousand details
(30:53):
you could provide, and certainly he could provide as to
telltale signs that he was being looked over, whether it's
whispers in the hallway or group emails he's being removed from.
And this is his career. He has every right uh
to to and prerogative to be able to advocate on
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his own behalf right, And so where are we now
in this case?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
So the complaint, the complaint got filed just recently.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
The Arizona Board of Regions has until late January.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
To file their response.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
They could answer the complaint or file what we call
in motion to the dismiss which means basically, they might
request the court to dismiss a case.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Obviously we would oppose that. So that's that's what's next
to next, uh next to this case.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And your hope in taking this case, as the Liberty
Justice Center, is that this is bigger than one individual.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
What do you hope comes of this?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
What do you want the world to see out of
this that changes behaviors in the future.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Right, So, while this case it's about doctor Matthew Abraham.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
It's really about more than that.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
It's about whether in secutions of higher education like universities
can punish faculty members for speaking truth to power, especially
when it comes to policies that undermine merit and fairness
in the name of DEI. In this case, when we
were talking about DEI and inclusion, this is a case
(32:39):
where literally the result was not an inclusion, it was
exclusion because doctor Matthew Abraham was excluded from serving on
these committees for asking questions.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
It is.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It's an interesting practice you have because you don't have
to have people come through the door who have a reason,
no chance of monetary compensation, so that you can make
a living. People have put up their money behind the
Liberty Justice Center so that you could take cases like
this without regard to whether there is a financial windfall
at the end of the day. And that's what we
(33:14):
call standing on principle and we are always a fan
of that unheld Valencia. Well look forward to hearing how
the case turns out. It is known as Abraham versus
Arizona Border Regions. If you would like to check it out,
and I encourage you to support the Liberty Justice Center.
Keep up the good fight. Good sirs, good good, thank you,
(33:36):
and good night.
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