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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load. Michael
Vary Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Baseball legend Pete Rose has passed away.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Rose was one of the.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Greatest hitters in baseball history and holds a Major League
Baseball record for all time hits. But Pete Rose never
made it into the Baseball Hall of Fame because he
was banned for life for betting on games while manager.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Of the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Rose later admitted to betting on his own team's games,
but said he never threw a game and never bet
against his own team. Rose played to the majors for
twenty four years.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Pete Rose was eighty three years old.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
And here comes it ain't attraction and they're on their feet.
Rose walking toward the play the most famous number fourteen
in the history of this game, and trying to make
history right here in the first Jenning tonight. He levels
about a couple of times. Shout Yickson. He fires roseway
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down the.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Class death number forty.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
One ninety two, A live drive single into left center field,
a clean base enter man is Pandemoni.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I'm here at river Front Stadium.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
A fire works exploding over a head the Cincinnati Dugout
has emptied. The applause continuous unobated. Rose, completely encircled by
his teammates at first base. Joe White an emotional scene
here at the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm wont to be a base to baseball, he rose.
That wins. It's just not today, Rout.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You know, we're talking about the Longshorreman's Union, and we
talk about government, and we talk about bullies. Here's a
government bully story for you. The IRS goon squad. You
remember the name of Evan Gerskovich. Gerskovich. He and Paul
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Wheelan and Vladimir Kara Mursa were held hostage by the Russians.
Last month, they were released from detention returned to the
United States.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Welcome home.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Been held in Russia as a hostage.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Welcome home. We're glad to have you here.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, just like January sixth, our government attacked them, imposing
fines and tax charges on them for failing to pay
while they were locked up. Washington Post reporter and former
hostage Jason Rizayan spent five hundred and forty four days
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locked up in Iran as a hostage. He says, quote,
I got one of those bills from the IRS saying
you owe this much on this year. You owe this
much on this year because of failure to pay on time.
Here's the interest that's accrued.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I was being held hostage by the Iranians.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Credit NPR.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
A few months after journalist Jason Rezaion returned to the
US after being wrongfully imprisoned in Iran for five hundred
and forty four days, he got a surprise in the mail.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Got one of those bills from the IRS saying you
owe this much on this year, and you owe this
much on this year because of failure to pay on time.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Here's the interests that's accrued.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
The bill was for more than six thousand dollars, representing
late penalties and interest on taxes he couldn't file when
he was imprisoned.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
The bills kept mounting. Once we got rid of some fees,
new ones would appear.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Eventually, his bills ballooned to twenty two thousand dollars. Resion
said the IRS told him they wanted to help, but
they didn't have the authority to just make it all
go away.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I don't look at this as the Irs out for
blood and treasure.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
This is an oversight that nobody really thought about.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
He eventually settled the dispute with the IRS, but says
the consequences of oversights like that go far beyond the financial.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Adding layers of bureaucratic red tape on top of what
you've just been through. It feels like a new series
of impediments when all you want to do is run.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You want to move forward. You want to make up
for the time that you've missed.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
On the subject of Iran since we've been just talking
about it. Donald Trump Junior makes the point that you
know this foreign interference. I claim the Russians were trying
to help Trump. Hillary's still trying to peddle that. I
guess dumb people will still believe it. But there is
foreign interference in this election. There's no doubt about it.
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Our own government has admitted it. People within the government
who do their jobs, not the Democrats. Iran hacked into
Trump's emails and handed that over to the Kamala Harris campaign.
You think they're not going to use that. Of course
they are. But Donald Trump Junior made a good point.
Iran trying to assassinate Donald Trump, Iran hacking into his computers.
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That is actually perhaps the greatest endorsement of his father's campaign.
Trump takes lemons and makes lemonade. They shoot him in
the head. He becomes more popular. They try to kill
him again. He becomes more popular. They convict him thirty
four times. He becomes more popular. They assess a four
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hundred and eighty nine million dollar Finally he becomes more popular.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They raid his house. He becomes more popular. Can you
imagine how frustrated they must be.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Charlie Brown just keep trying to kick that football and
Trump keeps pulling it away, and they fall on their
back one more time.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
This is kind of getting old. I've had a lot
of time in the last few months where I'm have
to explain to my young children whyized Democrats are trying
to kill their grandfather. Now you've had to do that twice.
Then you have this, and then you have the hacking
where Iran, the world's leading state sponsor of terror, is
literally colluding with the Biden Harris administration to try to
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give them information against their political enemies. Think about that.
I mean, I can't tell if it's terrible or if
it's perhaps the greatest endorsement of my father's campaign. Iran
does not want him to be president. Russia does not
want him to be president. Our enemies do not want
my father to be president because I understand that bringing
back strength and resolve to America is really bad for
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their global ambitions. I mean, I can't think of a
better endorsement.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Rre rom what I've been trying to get to this
and I've been short on time.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I'm just can wedget in right now. This is clip
five oh one.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
This is the Trump campaign ad on.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
On Kamala Harrison.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
The reason is because it is making a big difference.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
Kamala's supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners.
Speaker 9 (07:02):
Surgery for prisoners, for prisoners, every transgender inmate in the
prison system would have access.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It's hard to believe, but it's true. Even the liberal
media was shocked.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners and illegal aliens.
Speaker 9 (07:20):
Every transgender inmate would have access.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Kamala's for they them. President Trump is for you. I'm
Donald J. Trump can improve this message.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
When you advertise during an NFL game, you get a
different type of audience. Here's Charlemagne, the god who does
Urban Black national radio have been typically friendly toward Kamala
and listen to this.
Speaker 10 (07:39):
I'll tell you what that and was running during the
football game this weekend claiming the vice president supports funding
gender transition surgeries for all president inmates and migrants in
the US.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That was nuts. That was I don't know if it
would say nuts, but that was crazy. That was funny.
I don't know. I don't know if it was the
backdrop of football, but when you hit an array.
Speaker 10 (07:56):
To Saykammala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
That one line, Hell no, I don't want my tax
payer dollars going to that. Definitely say that she did.
That ad was effective. Common took a picture of the
transgender It was.
Speaker 11 (08:06):
It was just what they were saying that it made
it seem like commalas support transgender sex changes in jail
with our money.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That's what That's what. That's what I'm saying that.
Speaker 10 (08:15):
Yes, they said. It literally said, uh that Kammala supports
tax payer funded sex changes for prisoners, and it talks
about how you know, uh, she she supports funding gender
transition surgeries for all prison inmates and migrants in the
United States.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
That ad was impactful, Like it was I'm not gonna lie.
I was like that because it was doring football. Yes,
I think it was doing because it was doing football,
the contrast of it.
Speaker 11 (08:36):
Yes, But the last week they had the same thing
running on Tim Waltston said he likes campons and boys bathrooms.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I would not have paid that.
Speaker 10 (08:43):
I don't think I would have paid that commercial no attention.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
If it was any other time. But when you're.
Speaker 10 (08:48):
Watching football and you just mind, you just what what
the hell?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
In between being commercials they give you that.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
We are going to supporters supporter you haven't been, and
I hadn't been.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
A very very important issue that might seem only to
be pop culture, but it's going to turn out to
be much bigger than that.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's explosive.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Is the case of Sean Combs, who I expect any
moment to suicide himself Epstein style. He is an influential singer, rapper,
music executive, cultural icon who held allegedly freak out parties
where powerful people would come and rapes would occur and
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date rapes would occur. And one of the lawyers who's
bringing the civil case against him and has been into
this for quite some time, as Tony Busby, who's from Houston.
What is revealed out of this I suspect, could involve Obama, Oprah,
could potentially a lot of people. And as that trial
moves forward, Houston's own Tony Busby is in the center
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of it.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
He's our guest.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So you are involved in this P Diddy case for
people who for people who may not know who he
is as a cultural phenomenon, and he is that.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
He's very well known.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
He's very, very influential in many sectors. How would you
explain to people who p did he is or Sean
Puffy Combs or however you're going to refer to him.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Yeah, it's hard, hard to figure out what to call him,
but his name Sean Combs. He's had a lot of
different imaginations of his name over the years, but he's
a He started out as a performer, a rap artist,
very popular in the nineties, I think it was early
ninety had a lot of hit songs, collaborated with a
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lot of people, launched a lot of people's careers, people.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Like Justin bieber Ussher. You may remember what was the.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Biggie Biggy Smalls. Yeah, and then there was you may
remember the Big the controversy about East Coast Rap and
West Coast Rap. He was kind of the leader of
the East Coast rap and then he then he kind
of graduated into a producer, and then he had a
tequila company and then a clothing company, and you know,
at one point he was he was considered to be
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a billionaire. I'm not sure if that's the case now, but.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
We're about to find out.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
All we we're gonna find out.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And over over the years.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
You know, he he became known for these parties he
would throw, and he would throw parties uh in Manhattan,
uh out and also in the Hampton's, also in in
l A. And the party became this this thing that
everybody wanted to be invited to. It was like the
party to be invited to. People like you know, Leo
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DiCaprio and Oprah and all these these so called celebrities.
Uh would would be at these parties, and apparently, you know,
at the somewhere around midnight or one o'clock, the party
would shift from just the kind of party that maybe
you and I might attend to something that became really sinister.
He apparently brought women and men from across the country
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and paid them or coerced them for sex. And it
was you know, he's been indicted now of course in
New York, and he's in jail right now. They've denied
him bail twice. But I think we're just this is
just a tip of the iceberg. I mean, we began
signing up cases about three months ago on this, and
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this morning I was told that we have one hundred
and one clients that have been vetted that have some
proof that can be pursued in court of being sexually
exploited by Sean Combs. And there's a lot of other
facets to this. You know, obviously, the companies that he
was engaged with were profiting off of this, you know,
this whole culture that he created. And then there's a
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lot of other celebrities and people that were involved in this,
people that stood by and watched or in some cases
participated so this. You know, we remember the old Epstein
thing that's kind of still going on, and all the
various people that we always wondered who were involved with that.
I think this is going to be the same kind
of thing, but bigger.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I suspect you're right.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I suspect that this thing is going to be an
onion that keeps getting peeled further and further to reveal
deeper and deeper layers of celebrity and government, and it's
going to be interesting and disturbing to watch, but it
needs to come out. Your first client, I think, was
a woman in Houston who alleges she's a victim of
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all of this.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Now that was that was there was.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
There is a woman who is represented by another lawyer,
who had a press conference a couple of days back,
who complain or alleges that something happened. I think she's
talking about in the year two thousand. But but there's
been I think seven total cases filed against him at
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this moment, but never never of the volume that that
he's about about to see. And I think one of
the one of the things that a lot of people
don't realize is that is that it's it's actually more
males than females who have been exploited in abuse by
by this whole thing that's going on. You know, that's
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not that's not self evident. You know, that's a little
that's contrary to the rap culture. But the truth is is,
you know, the allegation is that he targeted young young men,
and you know they were just as targeted, if not
more targeted. Than than young women.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Uh when when you when you begin a case like this,
there are a lot of allegations, what is the logistical approach?
Because it strikes me that at some point you've got
to start to get your arms around this case. I
know that that when someone defends a case like this,
they'll claim that as you ask for more information, it's
a fishing expedition. But a lot of information you need
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is in the possession of the defendant. And you have
the allegation of you know, maybe your client. Now you've
got you said, one hundred and one clients. You start
to see certain things that become patterns. What are the
what is the strategy to put together a case like
this at this point, Well.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
I have the benefit, of course, of the FBI's work.
They've been investigating Seawancombs for over two years, and so
a lot of the evidence is in the possession of
the federal government right now. Specifically, what I'm really interested
in is the type of drugs that they seized and
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also eventually the statements that they're going to take.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And I expect that.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
There will be cooperating witnesses, hopefully bodyguards and the people
that rounded Seawan Combs because it was always surrounded by bodyguards,
and in fact, there's a lot of allegations that his
bodyguards participated.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
In some of this conduct.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
So they're facing criminal prosecution themselves. So I expect, you know,
they're obviously not the target. My hope is and my
expectation is that at some point they will begin to roll,
so I have that benefit for me. The hardest thing is,
you know, we've had twenty five hundred potential contact, whether
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it be via the Internet or phone, of people who
have come forward to say, you know, I was a
victim or I have information. The administrative work there is
almost overwhelming, and we have sixty sixty or more people
vetting these people, collecting information, collecting pictures, collecting texts, that
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sort of thing. That's the real challenge, and to make
sure that those people that we feel like they've been vetted, because.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
You know, you know how this works.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
I mean, I don't go into this, you know, like,
you know, I'm not naive. I know that there's people
out there that are looking for a payday and are hoping, well,
I'll just say that this happened to me, or I
was at a party. So I'm going to say that's
happened to me. So we're trying to make sure that
on the one hand, we don't want to be cross
examining people to the extent that they feel like they're
not believed or they're not being treated with respect, because
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you know, it takes a lot of courage for somebody
to step forward and to say this happened to me,
and you know, in the state of our society, I mean,
it would be the same for me, especially for a
male to step forward and say that's happened to me
as a male, but as a female too.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
It's just hard.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Because because you know that they're going to be roundly attacked.
You know that Shawn Combs is going to have a
very high powered legal team and they're going to their
entire lives are going to be you know, investigated. So
this is tough to step forward. So I don't want
to be part of that and traumatize them myself because
because I'm trying to make sure that I properly bet
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these cases. On the other hand, I don't want to
be representing someone who's a fraud or somebody who's just
trying to get on what they think is going to
be a gravy train, because you know, one bad apple
spoil the whole barrel.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
As far as i'm conn that top country, Michael Barry.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
We think sweets tea, We don't socialists.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Cod Tony Busby, a high profile attorney, is our guest.
We're talking about his case against Sean Puffy Combs, p Diddy,
whatever the name. He has one hundred and one client
signed up right now with charges of some sort against
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Seawan Combs.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Tony. Let's talk about the allegations themselves.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
And I realized those range quite a bit, and you
mentioned a little bit about drugging folks, non consensual sex,
those sorts of things. Can you give us just a
range of what we're talking about?
Speaker 8 (18:58):
Yeah, I mean it ranges from rape, which is in
New York, violent sexual assaults, which which includes you know,
noncontential sex, rape, sexual abuse, which which would include sexual contact,
facilitated sex with a controlled substance, which is in my
view when as I review each of these cases is
kind of the overwhelming thing. There's always some sort of
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drug involved. It looks like it's a date rape drug,
which is why I'm very very interested to know what
what the FBI sees because they obviously seized various drugs
that they found that his two residences. We know that
that some of these these clients who went to the
to the doctor after these events found drugs in their system,
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including a drug that I wasn't familiar with. I'm trying
to get the name of it, but it's basically commonly
called trank. It's a horse tranquilizer, which is which is
a strange thing, but several, uh, several of these clients
had this drug in their system, which I'm told is uh,
they lay they lace other drugs with this drug. It
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makes people feel lethargic and kind of lose all their inhibitions.
So these are the types of claims the kind of
you would you would typically expect and this kind of
behavior growping, uh, you know, videoing someone without the permission,
false imprisonment, sexual abuse of minors. There's a whole litany
of claims depending on the particular case, and these cases
will all be filed individually. Probably most of them will
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be filed in New York, but some will be filed
in California. And each client will, you know, have his
or her own case with his or her own claims.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
And when we talk about where they'll be filed in
which court we'll have jurisdiction. Are we talking primarily about
the location where this occurred?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
How would that be determined?
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Well, as you probably know, venue is typically either where
the act occurred or where the defendant resides.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So a lot of this conduct.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
Occurred in New York, and of course Seawan Colmbs has
his prime in New York, although he may argue that
it's in California, but in any event, it's either in
New York or California. So that's the reason most of
these cases will be filed in New York or California.
The good news for these claimants is that both New
York and California have very liberal statue limitations, so that
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you can capture conduct that happened more than twenty years ago.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
What is that statute limitation? Is it specific? Is it
twenty five years? Is it lifetime? For these types of things?
Speaker 8 (21:31):
In New York, it's essentially lifetime, as long as you
bring the claim by March of twenty twenty five. Of course,
there are other various limitations, probably too much to talk
about here, but essentially very generous, very liberal statue limitations
in California, and New York, which is why I expect
most of the cases to be filed in those two states.
Georgia as an example, which some of this conduct occurred
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in Georgia, its statue limitations.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Is two years.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
Texas has a statute for this type of conduct of
only five years. But New York you can capture conduct
that goes back thirty years. So it really depends on,
you know, if it happened in New York, or you
can sue Shawn Combs in New York because he's a
New York residence, then you can a resident, then you
can then you can bring a civil claim against him.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Tony Busby is our guest.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
We're talking about his clients, his cases against Sean Combs.
Puffy p did he Obviously Sean Combs is in real
legal jeopardy from a criminal perspective. Presently, if something happened
to him, he epstein or he's epstein. If something happens
to him, he files bankruptcy. Because these cases are going
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to be pouring in and he's going to be defending
himself and all of this. You hinted or alluded to
other folks who benefited from his behavior, who it sounded
like might be in your targets.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
Yeah, I've always you know, I've always when I started
taking these cases, I took them with an eye to
making sure that we capture, uh, everybody involved what I
call the silent accomplices or the the you know, the
enablers behind closed doors. There are a lot of different
people that were involved in this, that enabled this, that
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sat by and watched it, watched it occur, that knew
about it, that did nothing to stop it. And then
there's corporate entities involved. You know, Shawn Combs made a
lot of money for a lot of different corporations, and uh,
you know, we're all learning about his conduct now, but
it was it was a secret that everyone knew about,
certainly in the entertainment industry. People knew what kind of things.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
He was up to.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
People knew that that, you know a lot of his
parties that are at a certain point in time that
if you didn't want to be involved in this kind
of conduct, you better leave.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
He made it very clear.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
I mean there's a there's a public recording of him
essentially saying as much from a balcony where he talked
about you know, at certain some point tonight, everybody needs
to leave that's not going to participate. And you know
the message was sent, but it wasn't a secret. It
was a secret to us. I didn't know about it, obviously,
but the entertainment industry knew about it, and a lot
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of entertainment companies and individuals made a heck of a
lot of money because of this culture that he created,
and we're going to be looking towards them as well.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
The Justin Bieber video, which I'm sure you've seen, is
very disturbing, not because he's Justin Bieber, but because at
the time he's I think fourteen, about to be fifteen,
and Shaan Combe says, we are in an undisclosed location.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And we're going to have the next forty eight hours.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
You just be wild and you think about you know,
what kind of parent gives over their team. A minor
cannot consent to sex. That's why we call it statutory rate.
It just cannot happen except for in the rarest of
circumstances that they're close in age, and we don't want
adults to be having sex with children. And that's pure
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and simple the case. Do you have any at this
point I'm sure you're going to be signing up more.
Do you have any clients who were underage at the
point of the allegate of the alleged activity.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Twenty four of the one hundred and one we're underage,
One was as young as nine years old.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Oh, Tony, can you hang with us? Yeah? Sure, Tony
Busby's our guest. Michael Berry, we think sweets tea. We
don't think socialist cool.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Tony Busby is our guest. He represents one hundred and
probably counting alleged victims of Sean Comb's p Diddy Puffy,
you know, the whole Tupac Biggie rivalry.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
And if you don't just rest assured.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
This pretends to be as big as the Epstein Clay
case in a case like this, Tony for a for
a plane you know you talked about I think twenty
four of the victims were under alleged victims were under
the age of eighteen.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
They were miners at the time, and.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
We were going to break I think you said, the
youngest being nine. What does the claim for a victim
like that look like? Is there a specific amount of
money you ask for?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
Not not typically, I mean, I don't know It's kind
of like what is the value of human life? It's
something possible to put a number on it. I mean,
you obviously want to get as much as you can
for the client based on the circumstances. But I rarely
put a dollar amount in the pleading unless the court
requires me to, and kind of let the case work.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Itself through the system.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
And when we get to a point where we know
all the facts and we know how you know, what
the impact is, then we try to sit down and
come up with a number that's doesn't shocked the conscience
when we obviously we're shooting high. I mean, that's what
I don't get paid. I get, you know, people hire
me to get money. Unfortunately, the civil justice system that's
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all it can do. Only it only provides money damages.
But one thing to note about about these cases specifically,
twenty four of these people were miners at the time
this happened.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You know, you have.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Parents who who were just in awe and just starstruck
by Shawn Combs and who he was, especially back in
this timeframe when he was really big, back in the
two from two thousand to two thousand and fifteen twenty
twenty timeframe, he was. He was the guy if you will,
and parents, you know, would willingly hand their child over
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to him. You know, you mentioned Justin Bieber as an example,
who was fourteen. We know Usher was i think twelve
or thirteen when he connected with Shawn Kahm. There's a
lot of a lot of children who were basically flown
and put into his care and he violated that trust
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and you know a lot of there's some of the
quotes that that that we have, you know from some
of these these kids, you know, just completely ruined their lives.
You know, they had these huge dreams of being a star,
and he made all these promises. You know, it's the
same mo o. It's you know, I'm gonna you're gonna
get a record deal. You're gonna do this, You're gonna
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be able to do this. But in order to do that,
you have to do this, and don't worry, it's everybody
does this. And then to loosen them up, you know,
give give kids drinks and drugs and and you know,
just essentially destroy their lives and then just when when
they're when he's finished with them, you know, threaten makes
threats against them against their family of retribution. If they
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ever say anything about it. So that's kind of them,
and that's kind of how it went for for twenty
years according to these people.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
You you talk about the threats to silence people, and
that's some that's a theme that's actually been out there
for several years of these threats. Do you have folks
who alleged that the threats were ever acted upon, harm
was brought down on them as a result of talking,
because there have been people talking for a while.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
Yeah, they There have been several different individuals who I've
personally spoken to who who believed threats came down on them,
but can't prove it. Uh, you know, from from small
things like all four of their tires being slashed.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
To you know, things like that, things that you know.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
It's hard to prove who did that, who was responsible
for that, but you know threats, explicit threats being made
like keep your mouth shut, don't do this, don't do that,
and then and then you know, reminders of just this
kind of I guess you would call that petty, petty
type crime of people breaking you know, breaking a window
or slashing tires.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
But I don't have anybody.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Who you know, was with the exception of one who
was who was, you know, physically beaten. I have one
client who who alleges that he was physically beaten and said,
you will be beat again if you ever talk about
any of the things that happened. So you know this
some of this, some of these claims are and that's why,
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you know, you want to.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Say, I believe every victim. But on the other hand, some.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Of this conduct, it's so outrageous and you wonder, how
could this go on with so many people involved for
so long? And I think it I think it just
it just re emphasizes that, you know, Sean comes uh
in New York and l A was a very powerful person.
You know, he's he's hanging out with Oprah, and he's
(30:49):
hanging out with Leo DiCaprio, and he's hanging out with
all the politicians in New York and California, and uh,
you know, he makes that very clear, uh to these
people that you know, not just the threat of physical violence,
but you know, I'm black value and industry, You'll never
you'll never do anything in this industry.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
And he has.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
A lot of different ways to leverage silence. And so
the good news is the this law of silence or
this culture of silence obviously is now starting to crumble.
And I wouldn't be surprised if five hundred people show
up with legitimate, documented claims against him and his cohorts.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, apparently he blackballed a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
It's it's disturbing, you know, you talk about his power
or the perception of power, it's hard to measure that.
But he was able to make people a star. He
did have his own label. There were people that he
kind of brought up and made famous and personally benefited from.
It was really disturbing when you when someone asked, well,
(31:51):
why would you hand your precious child over to someone?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
This is this?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You have to have suspicions that this could be happening.
I think that people make a deal with the devil
that this might make my child famous. And the pursuit
of fame and the fact that he has this star
dust on him makes people do very, very stupid things.
I think people trusted, Unfortunately, single moms trusted Jerry Sandusky
(32:17):
with their teenage boys and they end up they ended
up raped in a shower because of it. And that's
exactly what I think you're seeing here.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
Thank you're right, and I can't imagine that the guilt
and shame they feel having done this, and certainly if
they had any suspicion whatsoever, that it's even worse. And
I mean, that'd be.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
A hard pill to swallow.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Reminder of the presidential debate is sorry, vice presidential debate
is tonight. If you want to watch that, that is
primarily what we'll be talking about. During the first hour
of tomorrow night's show. We will hopefully be bringing you
the good news that jd Vance showed why he is
ready to be vice president and if needed president, should
(33:03):
something happen to the president, God forbid, and why Tim
Waltz aka Richard Simmons should not. We don't need tampon
Tim in the White House under any circumstances.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Prayers for the people of Israel.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
They are under attack from the demons and devils in Iran.
We've got sympathizers of those demons and devils in this
country and we should root them out. We should not
allow them in positions of power. We should not allow
their candidate, Kamala Harris to be there. This is a
wake up call not just to Jews, but to every
American that there are people who seek to kill us,
(33:40):
not just the Israelis, the Americans, and they're supporting Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Never forget that. See you tomorrow.
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load. Michael
Vary Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Baseball legend Pete Rose has passed away.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Rose was one of the.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Greatest hitters in baseball history and holds a Major League
Baseball record for all time hits. But Pete Rose never
made it into the Baseball Hall of Fame because he
was banned for life for betting on games while manager.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Of the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Rose later admitted to betting on his own team's games,
but said he never threw a game and never bet
against his own team. Rose played to the majors for
twenty four years.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Pete Rose was eighty three years old.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
And here comes it ain't attraction and they're on their feet.
Rose walking toward the play the most famous number fourteen
in the history of this game, and trying to make
history right here in the first Jenning tonight. He levels
about a couple of times. Shout Yickson. He fires roseway
(01:02):
down the.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Class death number forty.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
One ninety two, A live drive single into left center field,
a clean base enter man is Pandemoni.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I'm here at river Front Stadium.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
A fire works exploding over a head the Cincinnati Dugout
has emptied. The applause continuous unobated. Rose, completely encircled by
his teammates at first base. Joe White an emotional scene
here at the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm wont to be a base to baseball, he rose.
That wins. It's just not today, Rout.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You know, we're talking about the Longshorreman's Union, and we
talk about government, and we talk about bullies. Here's a
government bully story for you. The IRS goon squad. You
remember the name of Evan Gerskovich. Gerskovich. He and Paul
(02:15):
Wheelan and Vladimir Kara Mursa were held hostage by the Russians.
Last month, they were released from detention returned to the
United States.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Welcome home.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Been held in Russia as a hostage.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Welcome home. We're glad to have you here.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, just like January sixth, our government attacked them, imposing
fines and tax charges on them for failing to pay
while they were locked up. Washington Post reporter and former
hostage Jason Rizayan spent five hundred and forty four days
(02:57):
locked up in Iran as a hostage. He says, quote,
I got one of those bills from the IRS saying
you owe this much on this year. You owe this
much on this year because of failure to pay on time.
Here's the interest that's accrued.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I was being held hostage by the Iranians.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Credit NPR.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
A few months after journalist Jason Rezaion returned to the
US after being wrongfully imprisoned in Iran for five hundred
and forty four days, he got a surprise in the mail.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Got one of those bills from the IRS saying you
owe this much on this year, and you owe this
much on this year because of failure to pay on time.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Here's the interests that's accrued.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
The bill was for more than six thousand dollars, representing
late penalties and interest on taxes he couldn't file when
he was imprisoned.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
The bills kept mounting. Once we got rid of some fees,
new ones would appear.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Eventually, his bills ballooned to twenty two thousand dollars. Resion
said the IRS told him they wanted to help, but
they didn't have the authority to just make it all
go away.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I don't look at this as the Irs out for
blood and treasure.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
This is an oversight that nobody really thought about.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
He eventually settled the dispute with the IRS, but says
the consequences of oversights like that go far beyond the financial.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Adding layers of bureaucratic red tape on top of what
you've just been through. It feels like a new series
of impediments when all you want to do is run.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You want to move forward. You want to make up
for the time that you've missed.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
On the subject of Iran since we've been just talking
about it. Donald Trump Junior makes the point that you
know this foreign interference. I claim the Russians were trying
to help Trump. Hillary's still trying to peddle that. I
guess dumb people will still believe it. But there is
foreign interference in this election. There's no doubt about it.
(04:50):
Our own government has admitted it. People within the government
who do their jobs, not the Democrats. Iran hacked into
Trump's emails and handed that over to the Kamala Harris campaign.
You think they're not going to use that. Of course
they are. But Donald Trump Junior made a good point.
Iran trying to assassinate Donald Trump, Iran hacking into his computers.
(05:15):
That is actually perhaps the greatest endorsement of his father's campaign.
Trump takes lemons and makes lemonade. They shoot him in
the head. He becomes more popular. They try to kill
him again. He becomes more popular. They convict him thirty
four times. He becomes more popular. They assess a four
(05:36):
hundred and eighty nine million dollar Finally he becomes more popular.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They raid his house. He becomes more popular. Can you
imagine how frustrated they must be.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Charlie Brown just keep trying to kick that football and
Trump keeps pulling it away, and they fall on their
back one more time.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
This is kind of getting old. I've had a lot
of time in the last few months where I'm have
to explain to my young children whyized Democrats are trying
to kill their grandfather. Now you've had to do that twice.
Then you have this, and then you have the hacking
where Iran, the world's leading state sponsor of terror, is
literally colluding with the Biden Harris administration to try to
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give them information against their political enemies. Think about that.
I mean, I can't tell if it's terrible or if
it's perhaps the greatest endorsement of my father's campaign. Iran
does not want him to be president. Russia does not
want him to be president. Our enemies do not want
my father to be president because I understand that bringing
back strength and resolve to America is really bad for
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their global ambitions. I mean, I can't think of a
better endorsement.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Rre rom what I've been trying to get to this
and I've been short on time.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I'm just can wedget in right now. This is clip
five oh one.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
This is the Trump campaign ad on.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
On Kamala Harrison.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
The reason is because it is making a big difference.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
Kamala's supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners.
Speaker 9 (07:02):
Surgery for prisoners, for prisoners, every transgender inmate in the
prison system would have access.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It's hard to believe, but it's true. Even the liberal
media was shocked.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners and illegal aliens.
Speaker 9 (07:20):
Every transgender inmate would have access.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Kamala's for they them. President Trump is for you. I'm
Donald J. Trump can improve this message.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
When you advertise during an NFL game, you get a
different type of audience. Here's Charlemagne, the god who does
Urban Black national radio have been typically friendly toward Kamala
and listen to this.
Speaker 10 (07:39):
I'll tell you what that and was running during the
football game this weekend claiming the vice president supports funding
gender transition surgeries for all president inmates and migrants in
the US.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That was nuts. That was I don't know if it
would say nuts, but that was crazy. That was funny.
I don't know. I don't know if it was the
backdrop of football, but when you hit an array.
Speaker 10 (07:56):
To Saykammala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
That one line, Hell no, I don't want my tax
payer dollars going to that. Definitely say that she did.
That ad was effective. Common took a picture of the
transgender It was.
Speaker 11 (08:06):
It was just what they were saying that it made
it seem like commalas support transgender sex changes in jail
with our money.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That's what That's what. That's what I'm saying that.
Speaker 10 (08:15):
Yes, they said. It literally said, uh that Kammala supports
tax payer funded sex changes for prisoners, and it talks
about how you know, uh, she she supports funding gender
transition surgeries for all prison inmates and migrants in the
United States.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
That ad was impactful, Like it was I'm not gonna lie.
I was like that because it was doring football. Yes,
I think it was doing because it was doing football,
the contrast of it.
Speaker 11 (08:36):
Yes, But the last week they had the same thing
running on Tim Waltston said he likes campons and boys bathrooms.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I would not have paid that.
Speaker 10 (08:43):
I don't think I would have paid that commercial no attention.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
If it was any other time. But when you're.
Speaker 10 (08:48):
Watching football and you just mind, you just what what
the hell?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
In between being commercials they give you that.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
We are going to supporters supporter you haven't been, and
I hadn't been.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
A very very important issue that might seem only to
be pop culture, but it's going to turn out to
be much bigger than that.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's explosive.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Is the case of Sean Combs, who I expect any
moment to suicide himself Epstein style. He is an influential singer, rapper,
music executive, cultural icon who held allegedly freak out parties
where powerful people would come and rapes would occur and
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date rapes would occur. And one of the lawyers who's
bringing the civil case against him and has been into
this for quite some time, as Tony Busby, who's from Houston.
What is revealed out of this I suspect, could involve Obama, Oprah,
could potentially a lot of people. And as that trial
moves forward, Houston's own Tony Busby is in the center
(09:56):
of it.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
He's our guest.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So you are involved in this P Diddy case for
people who for people who may not know who he
is as a cultural phenomenon, and he is that.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
He's very well known.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
He's very, very influential in many sectors. How would you
explain to people who p did he is or Sean
Puffy Combs or however you're going to refer to him.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Yeah, it's hard, hard to figure out what to call him,
but his name Sean Combs. He's had a lot of
different imaginations of his name over the years, but he's
a He started out as a performer, a rap artist,
very popular in the nineties, I think it was early
ninety had a lot of hit songs, collaborated with a
(10:39):
lot of people, launched a lot of people's careers, people.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Like Justin bieber Ussher. You may remember what was the.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Biggie Biggy Smalls. Yeah, and then there was you may
remember the Big the controversy about East Coast Rap and
West Coast Rap. He was kind of the leader of
the East Coast rap and then he then he kind
of graduated into a producer, and then he had a
tequila company and then a clothing company, and you know,
at one point he was he was considered to be
(11:14):
a billionaire. I'm not sure if that's the case now, but.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
We're about to find out.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
All we we're gonna find out.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And over over the years.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
You know, he he became known for these parties he
would throw, and he would throw parties uh in Manhattan,
uh out and also in the Hampton's, also in in
l A. And the party became this this thing that
everybody wanted to be invited to. It was like the
party to be invited to. People like you know, Leo
(11:44):
DiCaprio and Oprah and all these these so called celebrities.
Uh would would be at these parties, and apparently, you know,
at the somewhere around midnight or one o'clock, the party
would shift from just the kind of party that maybe
you and I might attend to something that became really sinister.
He apparently brought women and men from across the country
(12:10):
and paid them or coerced them for sex. And it
was you know, he's been indicted now of course in
New York, and he's in jail right now. They've denied
him bail twice. But I think we're just this is
just a tip of the iceberg. I mean, we began
signing up cases about three months ago on this, and
(12:34):
this morning I was told that we have one hundred
and one clients that have been vetted that have some
proof that can be pursued in court of being sexually
exploited by Sean Combs. And there's a lot of other
facets to this. You know, obviously, the companies that he
was engaged with were profiting off of this, you know,
this whole culture that he created. And then there's a
(12:56):
lot of other celebrities and people that were involved in this,
people that stood by and watched or in some cases
participated so this. You know, we remember the old Epstein
thing that's kind of still going on, and all the
various people that we always wondered who were involved with that.
I think this is going to be the same kind
of thing, but bigger.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I suspect you're right.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I suspect that this thing is going to be an
onion that keeps getting peeled further and further to reveal
deeper and deeper layers of celebrity and government, and it's
going to be interesting and disturbing to watch, but it
needs to come out. Your first client, I think, was
a woman in Houston who alleges she's a victim of
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all of this.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Now that was that was there was.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
There is a woman who is represented by another lawyer,
who had a press conference a couple of days back,
who complain or alleges that something happened. I think she's
talking about in the year two thousand. But but there's
been I think seven total cases filed against him at
(14:05):
this moment, but never never of the volume that that
he's about about to see. And I think one of
the one of the things that a lot of people
don't realize is that is that it's it's actually more
males than females who have been exploited in abuse by
by this whole thing that's going on. You know, that's
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not that's not self evident. You know, that's a little
that's contrary to the rap culture. But the truth is is,
you know, the allegation is that he targeted young young men,
and you know they were just as targeted, if not
more targeted. Than than young women.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Uh when when you when you begin a case like this,
there are a lot of allegations, what is the logistical approach?
Because it strikes me that at some point you've got
to start to get your arms around this case. I
know that that when someone defends a case like this,
they'll claim that as you ask for more information, it's
a fishing expedition. But a lot of information you need
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is in the possession of the defendant. And you have
the allegation of you know, maybe your client. Now you've
got you said, one hundred and one clients. You start
to see certain things that become patterns. What are the
what is the strategy to put together a case like
this at this point, Well.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
I have the benefit, of course, of the FBI's work.
They've been investigating Seawancombs for over two years, and so
a lot of the evidence is in the possession of
the federal government right now. Specifically, what I'm really interested
in is the type of drugs that they seized and
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also eventually the statements that they're going to take.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And I expect that.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
There will be cooperating witnesses, hopefully bodyguards and the people
that rounded Seawan Combs because it was always surrounded by bodyguards,
and in fact, there's a lot of allegations that his
bodyguards participated.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
In some of this conduct.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
So they're facing criminal prosecution themselves. So I expect, you know,
they're obviously not the target. My hope is and my
expectation is that at some point they will begin to roll,
so I have that benefit for me. The hardest thing is,
you know, we've had twenty five hundred potential contact, whether
(16:30):
it be via the Internet or phone, of people who
have come forward to say, you know, I was a
victim or I have information. The administrative work there is
almost overwhelming, and we have sixty sixty or more people
vetting these people, collecting information, collecting pictures, collecting texts, that
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sort of thing. That's the real challenge, and to make
sure that those people that we feel like they've been vetted, because.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
You know, you know how this works.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
I mean, I don't go into this, you know, like,
you know, I'm not naive. I know that there's people
out there that are looking for a payday and are hoping, well,
I'll just say that this happened to me, or I
was at a party. So I'm going to say that's
happened to me. So we're trying to make sure that
on the one hand, we don't want to be cross
examining people to the extent that they feel like they're
not believed or they're not being treated with respect, because
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you know, it takes a lot of courage for somebody
to step forward and to say this happened to me,
and you know, in the state of our society, I mean,
it would be the same for me, especially for a
male to step forward and say that's happened to me
as a male, but as a female too.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
It's just hard.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Because because you know that they're going to be roundly attacked.
You know that Shawn Combs is going to have a
very high powered legal team and they're going to their
entire lives are going to be you know, investigated. So
this is tough to step forward. So I don't want
to be part of that and traumatize them myself because
because I'm trying to make sure that I properly bet
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these cases. On the other hand, I don't want to
be representing someone who's a fraud or somebody who's just
trying to get on what they think is going to
be a gravy train, because you know, one bad apple
spoil the whole barrel.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
As far as i'm conn that top country, Michael Barry.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
We think sweets tea, We don't socialists.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Cod Tony Busby, a high profile attorney, is our guest.
We're talking about his case against Sean Puffy Combs, p Diddy,
whatever the name. He has one hundred and one client
signed up right now with charges of some sort against
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Seawan Combs.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Tony. Let's talk about the allegations themselves.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
And I realized those range quite a bit, and you
mentioned a little bit about drugging folks, non consensual sex,
those sorts of things. Can you give us just a
range of what we're talking about?
Speaker 8 (18:58):
Yeah, I mean it ranges from rape, which is in
New York, violent sexual assaults, which which includes you know,
noncontential sex, rape, sexual abuse, which which would include sexual contact,
facilitated sex with a controlled substance, which is in my
view when as I review each of these cases is
kind of the overwhelming thing. There's always some sort of
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drug involved. It looks like it's a date rape drug,
which is why I'm very very interested to know what
what the FBI sees because they obviously seized various drugs
that they found that his two residences. We know that
that some of these these clients who went to the
to the doctor after these events found drugs in their system,
(19:40):
including a drug that I wasn't familiar with. I'm trying
to get the name of it, but it's basically commonly
called trank. It's a horse tranquilizer, which is which is
a strange thing, but several, uh, several of these clients
had this drug in their system, which I'm told is uh,
they lay they lace other drugs with this drug. It
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makes people feel lethargic and kind of lose all their inhibitions.
So these are the types of claims the kind of
you would you would typically expect and this kind of
behavior growping, uh, you know, videoing someone without the permission,
false imprisonment, sexual abuse of minors. There's a whole litany
of claims depending on the particular case, and these cases
will all be filed individually. Probably most of them will
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be filed in New York, but some will be filed
in California. And each client will, you know, have his
or her own case with his or her own claims.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
And when we talk about where they'll be filed in
which court we'll have jurisdiction. Are we talking primarily about
the location where this occurred?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
How would that be determined?
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Well, as you probably know, venue is typically either where
the act occurred or where the defendant resides.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So a lot of this conduct.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
Occurred in New York, and of course Seawan Colmbs has
his prime in New York, although he may argue that
it's in California, but in any event, it's either in
New York or California. So that's the reason most of
these cases will be filed in New York or California.
The good news for these claimants is that both New
York and California have very liberal statue limitations, so that
(21:20):
you can capture conduct that happened more than twenty years ago.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
What is that statute limitation? Is it specific? Is it
twenty five years? Is it lifetime? For these types of things?
Speaker 8 (21:31):
In New York, it's essentially lifetime, as long as you
bring the claim by March of twenty twenty five. Of course,
there are other various limitations, probably too much to talk
about here, but essentially very generous, very liberal statue limitations
in California, and New York, which is why I expect
most of the cases to be filed in those two states.
Georgia as an example, which some of this conduct occurred
(21:52):
in Georgia, its statue limitations.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Is two years.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
Texas has a statute for this type of conduct of
only five years. But New York you can capture conduct
that goes back thirty years. So it really depends on,
you know, if it happened in New York, or you
can sue Shawn Combs in New York because he's a
New York residence, then you can a resident, then you
can then you can bring a civil claim against him.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Tony Busby is our guest.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
We're talking about his clients, his cases against Sean Combs.
Puffy p did he Obviously Sean Combs is in real
legal jeopardy from a criminal perspective. Presently, if something happened
to him, he epstein or he's epstein. If something happens
to him, he files bankruptcy. Because these cases are going
(22:41):
to be pouring in and he's going to be defending
himself and all of this. You hinted or alluded to
other folks who benefited from his behavior, who it sounded
like might be in your targets.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
Yeah, I've always you know, I've always when I started
taking these cases, I took them with an eye to
making sure that we capture, uh, everybody involved what I
call the silent accomplices or the the you know, the
enablers behind closed doors. There are a lot of different
people that were involved in this, that enabled this, that
(23:15):
sat by and watched it, watched it occur, that knew
about it, that did nothing to stop it. And then
there's corporate entities involved. You know, Shawn Combs made a
lot of money for a lot of different corporations, and uh,
you know, we're all learning about his conduct now, but
it was it was a secret that everyone knew about,
certainly in the entertainment industry. People knew what kind of things.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
He was up to.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
People knew that that, you know a lot of his
parties that are at a certain point in time that
if you didn't want to be involved in this kind
of conduct, you better leave.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
He made it very clear.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
I mean there's a there's a public recording of him
essentially saying as much from a balcony where he talked
about you know, at certain some point tonight, everybody needs
to leave that's not going to participate. And you know
the message was sent, but it wasn't a secret. It
was a secret to us. I didn't know about it, obviously,
but the entertainment industry knew about it, and a lot
(24:11):
of entertainment companies and individuals made a heck of a
lot of money because of this culture that he created,
and we're going to be looking towards them as well.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
The Justin Bieber video, which I'm sure you've seen, is
very disturbing, not because he's Justin Bieber, but because at
the time he's I think fourteen, about to be fifteen,
and Shaan Combe says, we are in an undisclosed location.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And we're going to have the next forty eight hours.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
You just be wild and you think about you know,
what kind of parent gives over their team. A minor
cannot consent to sex. That's why we call it statutory rate.
It just cannot happen except for in the rarest of
circumstances that they're close in age, and we don't want
adults to be having sex with children. And that's pure
(25:00):
and simple the case. Do you have any at this
point I'm sure you're going to be signing up more.
Do you have any clients who were underage at the
point of the allegate of the alleged activity.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Twenty four of the one hundred and one we're underage,
One was as young as nine years old.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Oh, Tony, can you hang with us? Yeah? Sure, Tony
Busby's our guest. Michael Berry, we think sweets tea. We
don't think socialist cool.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Tony Busby is our guest. He represents one hundred and
probably counting alleged victims of Sean Comb's p Diddy Puffy,
you know, the whole Tupac Biggie rivalry.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
And if you don't just rest assured.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
This pretends to be as big as the Epstein Clay
case in a case like this, Tony for a for
a plane you know you talked about I think twenty
four of the victims were under alleged victims were under
the age of eighteen.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
They were miners at the time, and.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
We were going to break I think you said, the
youngest being nine. What does the claim for a victim
like that look like? Is there a specific amount of
money you ask for?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
Not not typically, I mean, I don't know It's kind
of like what is the value of human life? It's
something possible to put a number on it. I mean,
you obviously want to get as much as you can
for the client based on the circumstances. But I rarely
put a dollar amount in the pleading unless the court
requires me to, and kind of let the case work.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Itself through the system.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
And when we get to a point where we know
all the facts and we know how you know, what
the impact is, then we try to sit down and
come up with a number that's doesn't shocked the conscience
when we obviously we're shooting high. I mean, that's what
I don't get paid. I get, you know, people hire
me to get money. Unfortunately, the civil justice system that's
(27:08):
all it can do. Only it only provides money damages.
But one thing to note about about these cases specifically,
twenty four of these people were miners at the time
this happened.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You know, you have.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Parents who who were just in awe and just starstruck
by Shawn Combs and who he was, especially back in
this timeframe when he was really big, back in the
two from two thousand to two thousand and fifteen twenty
twenty timeframe, he was. He was the guy if you will,
and parents, you know, would willingly hand their child over
(27:49):
to him. You know, you mentioned Justin Bieber as an example,
who was fourteen. We know Usher was i think twelve
or thirteen when he connected with Shawn Kahm. There's a
lot of a lot of children who were basically flown
and put into his care and he violated that trust
(28:11):
and you know a lot of there's some of the
quotes that that that we have, you know from some
of these these kids, you know, just completely ruined their lives.
You know, they had these huge dreams of being a star,
and he made all these promises. You know, it's the
same mo o. It's you know, I'm gonna you're gonna
get a record deal. You're gonna do this, You're gonna
(28:32):
be able to do this. But in order to do that,
you have to do this, and don't worry, it's everybody
does this. And then to loosen them up, you know,
give give kids drinks and drugs and and you know,
just essentially destroy their lives and then just when when
they're when he's finished with them, you know, threaten makes
threats against them against their family of retribution. If they
(28:55):
ever say anything about it. So that's kind of them,
and that's kind of how it went for for twenty
years according to these people.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
You you talk about the threats to silence people, and
that's some that's a theme that's actually been out there
for several years of these threats. Do you have folks
who alleged that the threats were ever acted upon, harm
was brought down on them as a result of talking,
because there have been people talking for a while.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
Yeah, they There have been several different individuals who I've
personally spoken to who who believed threats came down on them,
but can't prove it. Uh, you know, from from small
things like all four of their tires being slashed.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
To you know, things like that, things that you know.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
It's hard to prove who did that, who was responsible
for that, but you know threats, explicit threats being made
like keep your mouth shut, don't do this, don't do that,
and then and then you know, reminders of just this
kind of I guess you would call that petty, petty
type crime of people breaking you know, breaking a window
or slashing tires.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
But I don't have anybody.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Who you know, was with the exception of one who
was who was, you know, physically beaten. I have one
client who who alleges that he was physically beaten and said,
you will be beat again if you ever talk about
any of the things that happened. So you know this
some of this, some of these claims are and that's why,
(30:24):
you know, you want to.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Say, I believe every victim. But on the other hand, some.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Of this conduct, it's so outrageous and you wonder, how
could this go on with so many people involved for
so long? And I think it I think it just
it just re emphasizes that, you know, Sean comes uh
in New York and l A was a very powerful person.
You know, he's he's hanging out with Oprah, and he's
(30:49):
hanging out with Leo DiCaprio, and he's hanging out with
all the politicians in New York and California, and uh,
you know, he makes that very clear, uh to these
people that you know, not just the threat of physical violence,
but you know, I'm black value and industry, You'll never
you'll never do anything in this industry.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
And he has.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
A lot of different ways to leverage silence. And so
the good news is the this law of silence or
this culture of silence obviously is now starting to crumble.
And I wouldn't be surprised if five hundred people show
up with legitimate, documented claims against him and his cohorts.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, apparently he blackballed a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
It's it's disturbing, you know, you talk about his power
or the perception of power, it's hard to measure that.
But he was able to make people a star. He
did have his own label. There were people that he
kind of brought up and made famous and personally benefited from.
It was really disturbing when you when someone asked, well,
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why would you hand your precious child over to someone?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
This is this?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You have to have suspicions that this could be happening.
I think that people make a deal with the devil
that this might make my child famous. And the pursuit
of fame and the fact that he has this star
dust on him makes people do very, very stupid things.
I think people trusted, Unfortunately, single moms trusted Jerry Sandusky
(32:17):
with their teenage boys and they end up they ended
up raped in a shower because of it. And that's
exactly what I think you're seeing here.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
Thank you're right, and I can't imagine that the guilt
and shame they feel having done this, and certainly if
they had any suspicion whatsoever, that it's even worse. And
I mean, that'd be.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
A hard pill to swallow.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Reminder of the presidential debate is sorry, vice presidential debate
is tonight. If you want to watch that, that is
primarily what we'll be talking about. During the first hour
of tomorrow night's show. We will hopefully be bringing you
the good news that jd Vance showed why he is
ready to be vice president and if needed president, should
(33:03):
something happen to the president, God forbid, and why Tim
Waltz aka Richard Simmons should not. We don't need tampon
Tim in the White House under any circumstances.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Prayers for the people of Israel.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
They are under attack from the demons and devils in Iran.
We've got sympathizers of those demons and devils in this
country and we should root them out. We should not
allow them in positions of power. We should not allow
their candidate, Kamala Harris to be there. This is a
wake up call not just to Jews, but to every
American that there are people who seek to kill us,
(33:40):
not just the Israelis, the Americans, and they're supporting Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Never forget that. See you tomorrow.
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