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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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tribute to the United States Army on the two hundred
and fiftieth birthday of our United States Army, which started.
The first call up was the Massachusetts Militia. But you'll
learn all that tomorrow. And tomorrow is our President's seventy
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ninth birthday.
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Donald J.
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Trump turned seventy nine tomorrow, and as luck would have it,
part of our tribute to the United States Army is
President Trump's speech to Fort Bragg earlier this week, which
was fantastic and you're gonna love it. You're gonna absolutely
love it. So we will pay tribute to the United
States Army tomorrow on their birthday. Every one of you
out there who served the United States Army, thank you.
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But we wanted to take a story to hear. We
want to take a moment to hear the story of
the brave men and women who serve We'll get back
to Father's Day and continue to serve this country with
selfless honor.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
June fourteenth, seventeen seventy five, a full year before the
declaration of Independence, the Continental Congress took a bold step
authorizing the creation of the Continental Army to defend the
American colonies against British rule. Leading this new force none
other than George Washington, who was appointed commander in chief
just two days later. At first, it was a patchwork
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of state militias volunteers from Massachusetts, New York, Virginia, but
over time these soldiers became a unified force fighting for liberty.
After the Revolutionary War ended in seventeen eighty three, most
of the Army disbanded, but the need for a standing
military remained. With the ratification of the Constitution in seventeen
eighty nine, the US Army became a permanent institution, under
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civilian control and answerable to the people. From the battlefields
of Gettysburg to the beaches of Normandy, through Korea, Vietnam, Iraq,
and Afghanistan, the US Army has stood at the front lines,
defending freedom at home and abroad. Today, the Army isn't
just about combat. It's about service, technology, diplomacy, and leadership.
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It's one of the largest and most advanced fighting forces
in the world, with soldiers stationed in over one hundred
and forty countries. And it all began on June fourteenth,
seventeen seventy five. This is the story of the United
States Army, a story of courage, sacrifice, and service to
a nation.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I got a stack of emails I received this week
from folks who took the time at my request to
send me their Father's Day tributes, And I want you
to know I won't be able to read them all,
but I won't be able to read them all on
the air. But I did read all of them, and
I appreciate you taking the time to share those with me,
and I really enjoy I really enjoy listening reading them,
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receiving them. Joshua Bennett wrightch My dad, Richard Bennett, was
a US Navy veteran. He never thought that deserved attention
because he didn't go to war. He came from a
home so abusive that he left at seventeen. Yet he
still taught me how to be a man with love
and honor, even though he never had such an example
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in his life. Cancer took him in twenty twenty. He
will always be the greatest man I ever knew to
this day, went in doubt. I try to do what
I think he would do. Thank you for giving me
a moment to honor him. Jordan Peterson said something that's
a that in this several years since I heard it
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has meant a lot to me. And he said, your
goal should be to be the strongest man at your
father's funeral. And and I don't know, I didn't think
much of that line. It stuck with me, but I
didn't know why. And then my brother died suddenly a
couple years ago, and I summoned. I don't know from where,
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because I'm a crier. George H. W. Bush used to
say that he was a crier. He said, you know,
we bushes, we're criers. We cry, We're emotional people, and
I'm a crier. But at my brother's funeral, I was
suddenly strong. And I don't know where that strength came from.
And I've gone back to Jordan. I think that comes
from the strength of your father. My brother was strong.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I don't know. This was something I thought about home.
So a funny thing, A funny thing happens.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
We do a morning show and then we do this show.
They're two different shows. About one percent of our content
from the morning. We'll also make it onto the evening.
If there's there's something we play that we think is
timely or whatever, we'll play it. But they're mostly two
totally different shows, and a lot of people listen to
all five hours for our show a day, so that's
why we're careful not to reuse things as often as
we probably otherwise would. But so I'm doing the morning
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show and Ramon plays George Strait's love without end amen
about this kid coming home from school and he got
sent home and he was in trouble, and you know
how a dad's love is love without n amen. And
I made the point that that song was written by
Aaron Barker, and Aaron Barker and Alan Shamblin are two
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of the greatest living songwriters today.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
If there's a song sung.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
By John Michael Montgomery or certainly George Strait, there's Dean Dylan,
there's a handful of guys, and these two are among
them who have written the soundtrack of your life. And
they had once done a concert for me in my
living room where they would I would call out songs
and they would tell the story behind the song and
then they would sing it. I always enjoy listening to
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a songwriter sing the song that they wrote that became
famous by someone else, because they bring a little something
different to it. Now, they're not typically great vocalists, they're
artists in the purest sense. They are the poet of
our generation. In the same way that Shakespeare or Byron
were great expressors of emotion, so too are they songwriters
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are the modern day great poet. We should celebrate them
that way. Sometime at Aaron Barker, which led me to
Alan Chamblin. Twenty minutes later, I get a text out
of nowhere. He swears he wasn't listening to the show
at the time from Alan Shamblin and he says, Hey,
I know you're talking about You're gonna be talking about
Father's Day today. This is a song I just wanted
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to share with you. I co wrote this song. This
is Alan Shamblin talking about with Emily Wise Band and
Mark Beeson. Nate Smith released it three weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
This is the.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Duet of Nate Smith and Emily Wise Band. The song
is called Dads Don't Die.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
That was the song.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
You may not have heard it yet, but it's a
pretty cool It's a pretty cool song, so we wanted
to play it. If you look up Alan A. L. L. E.
In Shamblin and you see all the songs that you
love that he wrote, you know, give you a new
appreciation for the man. And he is pretty amazing as
a poet, which is what a songwriter is. Janet writes,
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I lost my dad in seventy nine when I was
only twenty one.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
He was an army vet and a father of five.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I only have kid memories, though, because while he was
sick in seventy nine, he wiped away a tear when
I told my parents I got a small scholarship.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I was the first of my family to go to college.
He was a jokester. Why not.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
He put his head through our doggy door and about
scared my mother to death and with me about eleven
years old, he followed me to an outhouse my Norwegian
great aunt had had behind her home, and when I.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Tried to get out, the door wouldn't budget. I truly panicked.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
When I finally pushed that sucker over open, he was
trolling around the house as if he were an innocent man.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Jennet Joy writes, My daddy was an amazing man and
would help anyone out. He was the constable in our town,
city inspector and the fire marshal. He also owned small businesses.
He taught us to be hard workers, to be honest,
to help people when we could, but most of all,
to love God and our family. His name was Ovi
Rinch Wrench, pronounced like a wrench. For years after he died,
so many people told me that he was their best friend.
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Joy Heismith down in Texas in Lagrange, Scott Gann wrote,
my father will be eighty one years old in less
than a month. If the Lord lets him get there.
For him to see eighty two will take nothing less
than the hand of God.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
He's fading. He took the whole story. He wrote a
long story.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It's too long here, But Scott, a coal miner, said
he wrote a song. I'll play it at some point
about his father and about being a coal miner. Dennis
Smith wrote me a nice long story about his biological
father for whom he is named, and his family's story.
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I have marked that to read to you at a
later date, because I won't be able to get it
into this segment. Thomas writes, what I remember most of
my childhood with my father was his massive hands.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
He was six foot five, about two sixty.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
But his hands gave only love, a rub on the
cheek or a rub on my hair, never in discipline.
His father's leather belt hung in his closet, and only
because of his love for me. When it came out,
I knew I had gone too far out of bounds.
Thank you for prodding me to remember that my father's
ninety five. I took his forty five, but I gave
him a burnha l E. That's the less lethal launchers
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that I talk about that you can carry anywhere, and
they're legal in fifty states. And I'm not going to
do a spiel for it, but I do believe in them,
and a lot of our listeners have replaced their dad's
pistol with a burna or their dad's in a place
where they're not allowed to have a gun, and so
they carry those. Britt writes, my father was a great man.
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He showed me religion and taught me that there is
a God that is merciful, loving, and forgiving. He got
me interested in joining the Boy Scouts. He set the
example of what it meant to be a man. To
take responsibility for my actions, for my decisions, to accept
the consequences of them, to forgive, to help someone because
we all need help at some point in our lives.
To treat a lady with respect and show her how
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much you appreciate her. To protect and provide for my family.
That there's nothing better than having someone to love and
grow old with. To lead by example because others are watching.
To set goals and always work hard, achieving them to
be honest with yourself and others at all times. I'm
so grateful for him.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You've got them Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
A couple of years ago, I was I was holding
for Father's Day, and you know, they probably breakfast in bed,
and my kids are young, and it wasn't the best breakfast,
but I just remember waking up and being so touched
that the two of them had gotten up early, which
they don't like to do, and they'd gotten up to
though my two youngs had gotten up early and made
me just a great little breakfast. I mean, I'm still
moved by it. By I thought that was great that
they had gotten up and made me some pancakes and cereal.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And you know, I wasn't very good by hate at all.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Jordan Peterson has a message that is as challenging as
it is meaningful.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I've quoted it a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Over the last couple of years because I had to
bury my brother and my mother, and it seems like
all my friends are losing their parents as well. He said,
you should be the strongest person at your father's funeral.
He's not talking about suppressing grief. He's talking about rising
to meet life's hardest moments with courage, dignity and strength.
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The passing of your father is the moment that you
ascend as the man of this family, which may include
your own mother.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Still a lot usually does.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's such a powerful message, and it meant something to
me at the domin has meant a lot to me
since then, and maybe it'll mean something to you.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You should be the strongest person at your father's funeral, right, No,
that's something named for. It's a transition, the generational transition,
and it means.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That well.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
To all the people around you are suffering because of
their loss, they have someone to turn to who can
illustrate by their behavior that the force of character is
sufficient to move you beyond the catastrophe. You need that,
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and that's a great thing too, that's a great thing
to hypothesizes your aim.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
It's so true, It is so true. We all carry
the voice of our parents with us.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
But for.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
A lot of us, it's your father's encouragement. Sure there's discipline,
Sure there's toughness. It's your father's support, your father's saying
you can do this. Here's Jordan Peterson talking about that encouragement,
which I think you know there's tilling your kid they're
wonderful all the time and never disciplining them.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
That's not good.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
But a kid does need to know that dad believes
in them.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
What kind of relationship do you have with your father,
your real father. It's often ambivalent, right, because there is
an element of him that encouraged you. Hopefully, because without
the encouragement of your father, man, the world is a
dismal place. It's very difficult to be a courageous person
unless you have your father in audience spirit behind you.
It's very demoralizing, Like it really kills people not to
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have their mother.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
They just don't recover from that.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And I think people can recover from a fragmented father relationship,
but it's the next worst thing, you know, because if
your father rejects you or doesn't form a relationship with you,
it's as if the spirit of civilization has left you
outside the walls as of little worth. It's very difficult
for people to recover from that. So the father should
be an encouraging force, but can be a tyrannical and
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crushing force. And so that's very that's a very difficult
thing to get right, partly because if you're my son,
then I should impose the highest standards of behavior on you,
and I should always be judging what you're doing well.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I should be judging.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It with the aim of making the best and you
come forward.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But getting that balance.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Exactly right is very difficult, and so it's easy to
for a father to swing too much into judgment, let's say,
and of course mothers can play this role too, to
swing too far into the domain of judgment and to
be too hard. To the degree that the father has
his own pathologies, he's going to do that imperfectly.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
He has a way of bringing a science, you know,
psychology is a soft science, but bringing a more scientific,
structured way to talk about things that are really kind
of soft tissue, highly emotional. There's one other Jordan Peterson
quote I wanted to share with you on this Father's
Day about encouragement and what his father gave him. He
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calls it an unshakeable belief that he could accomplish anything
he said his mind to.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I've said this many, many times. To the extent that
I have had success.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
In my life, it is because my father and my mother,
and my teachers and my coaches and my brothers always
believed in me and told me that I was going
to do great things, and you know what, I was
just naive enough to believe that. I felt that was
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my destiny. And then I couldn't let them down. I
couldn't let them down. I knew it was possible that
I could fail, but that would be up to me.
They had me slated for greatness, and in order to
live up to what they told me I could be,
I had to be on the lookout for the next
best thing. I had to prepare my mind. I had
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to build the right relationships.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I had to.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Keep my focus on those sorts of things. I want
you to think about that as a father. I want
you sorry, Ramona, I paused. I know that one's on me.
I want you to think about that as a father
and ask yourself, even if your children are adults, now
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ask yourself, if you have stated those words, Have you
made clear to your daughters and your sons that you
have an unshakeable belief in their goodness and their future success,
because it's never too late.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Well, my father's a formidable person, and like he was,
he was really he's really, really, really good with little kids.
We had a lot of friction when I was a teenager,
and that took some time to sort out. But there
were complicated reasons for that very some of them involved
ill health of various sorts and teenage stupidity, and you know,
some intransigence on his part, because he's quite a stubborn person.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
But he's both my parents.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
I've been blessed with my parents because they're very they're
extraordinarily honest people. I can't think of a time, and
this is literally the truth. I can't think of a
time when I believe that my parents lied to me
about anything. And that's a great gift. The other thing
that my father bequeathed to me, I would say when
I was a child, was an unshakable confidence that I
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could do what I put my mind to, put my
efforts to, you know, and he truly believed that. And
there's some that's lodged inside me as a like an
unshapable foundation.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
The Michael Daries Show continues to news us, Well, if you've.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Been a listener for any period of time, you know
that's our sonic branding that punctuates the week. It says,
our time together is coming to an end. And as
we do that, with our tribute to the United States
Army on their turn and fiftieth birthday tomorrow. President Trump's
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birthday tomorrow, he will be seventy nine. I think you're
gonna like our bonus podcast, and includes a speech by
him to Fort Bragg earlier this week. I hope you
have a wonderful Father's Day this weekend. Thought we would
conclude with a few things on a slightly lighter note.
How about there was a video this guy kind of
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a jackass went up to ed Orgeron, who ed Orgeron's
one hundred years old, and the dude is stacked. He's
in better shape than almost any guy you'll see.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
He's got a.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Perfect tan on his bare chest as he's jogging, and
this guy asked him if he can take a photo
with him, and he's very gracious about the photo. When
people do this to people, I think it's I think
you're a clown when you do. This guy's nice enough
to take a photo when he really doesn't want to
while he's out jogging, but he does. And the guy
says roll tied, and he thinks it's funny, and Edorzron
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doesn't coach O doesn't think it's funny at all. So
he gives him a gumbo fueled uppercut. But he doesn't
he's but he does lecture him a little bit on
showing respect, and he says, would you say go Tiger
to next Saban, which is a good point, right, You
wouldn't do that be disrespectful. I love ed Ozron Orzron
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got to spend some time with him. The National Championship year.
I could see hanging out with ed Orzron that that
had to be a fun thing to do. He's he's
a cool cat. I'm a I'm a I'm a massive
ed orgs round fan. I'm also a massive Nick Saban fan.
And you can ask Nick Saban about football strategy, recruiting,
maybe even the weather, but you do not ask Nick
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Saban about Father's Day. Here is a classic Nick Saban
moment where a well meaning question is asked about about
his Father's Day plans. I mean, you know, it's it's
a it's a light topic. Coach, don't play that with
Nick sabans.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
How's my Father's Day? I mean it's it's the same
thing every year. Hi, you guys, the same question every year. Yeah,
that's the same question every year. I tell you the
same thing every year?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right? How many ties can I get on the
same day? A right? How many? How many mugs can
I have? World's greatest at I know.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
I'm the world's greatest stab all right, I get one
every single year.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Okay, so it's the same thing. I'm a routine kind
of guy. I like that part. I don't like getting
these ties.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
We're am supposed to say, these people getting me in
these ties? All right, what do you want from me?
How many ties can I get? I'm a football coach.
Tis we're one tie year?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
All right?
Speaker 7 (21:03):
So I got a grandson. Now he comes over, and
that's cute. He's super cru and all. I love being
a granddad. But I mean, damn son, he pops like
through a tin horn. I mean, I don't have time
to constibly changing these diapers and everything.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You know, once he's on the forty end? All right,
can you play linebacker for me?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
These are the kind of questions that I think that
you should be asking, and.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You're not doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I yes, we do enjoy parody. Speaking of neckties and
grilling tools. Jim Gaffigan's take on Father's Day, which we
think is very funny.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
It's Father's Day. How weird is that a day to
honor dads. It doesn't make sense Mother's Day. I get
their mother's they brought us into the world. Father's Day
is like celebrating Darth Vader's birthday. Culturally, we don't even
take Father's Day seriously. We all approach Father's Day like, well,
our dad's made us do it. Father's Day seems like
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an afterthought. I guess since we honored mothers in May,
we should probably give a day in June to that
guy who gets up early on his one day off
to abandon us to go golfing. The gifts we give
on Father's Day seem impersonal and absurd.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
A necktie, what is this? Nineteen fifty?
Speaker 8 (22:20):
I guess giving dear old Dada noose would be a
little on the nose, So let's give them a silk
noose with a goofy pattern. Now, before you think I'm
some dad hater, I should tell you I am a dad.
I have a lot of kids. I say a lot
because I'm nervous I might get the number wrong. I'm
sure there are some really good dads out there, and
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I commend both of them. I do do things with
my kids, but when I come back from an outing,
just know they are going to be sunburned, covered in
mosquito bites. And yes, I forgot to get napkins. When
I bought them ice cream, I lost one of their shoes. Well,
at least I took them out. You're welcome. Generally, a
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day for dads is odd. Have you seen a dad? Sure,
David Beckham's a dad, But most dads look like Frankly,
look like me.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
There are not a lot of sexy dads.
Speaker 8 (23:12):
There's no dad equivalent to a hot mom or a
yummy mummy. At least there shouldn't be, because the phrase
dad bod is not just an internet joke. It's a
serious condition that affects millions of us. Dads are the
human equivalent of cargo shorts. Yes, I do have cargo shorts. No,
I don't know why that is funny or bad. I'm
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a dad. Besides the societal pressure to balance out Mother's Day,
what if dad's done to deserve a Father's Day?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Frankly plenty.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
Besides ordering pizzas and serving as the vice president of
the family, dads have to battle their own selfishness every day.
Dads strive to raise better smarter less dad like humans. Remember,
without the comparison to dads would look horrible. Damn straight
dads deserve a holiday. Now, get me a beer, whatever
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your name is.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
He does have a lot of kids.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I've eaten meals with the entire Carrie carry, with the
entire Gaffigan family, and I mean it's an army of kids.
It is a lot of kids. It's mayhem. I got nervous.
They're just They're just everywhere. Yes, I am aware because
I know I'm going to get emails that Jim Gaffigan's
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politics are awful. Jim and I got to be good
friends before he started stating his opinions publicly, and he
has pulled back from that, and in fact, if you
read what he has said of late, he's kind of
come around to the Democrats or nutjobs you know who
else has had kind of a good run, Jim Carrey.
People are now looking back at some of the warnings
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Jim Carrey gave of what was going on in this country,
and he starts looking like a very very astute observer
of what was going on before most people realized it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Here's Jim Carrey talking about his own dear father, my.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
Father could have been a great comedian, but he didn't
believe that that was possible for him, and so he
made a conservative choice.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Instead.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
He got a safe job as an accountant, and when
I was twelve years old, he was let go from
that safe job, and our family had to do whatever
we could to survive.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I learned many great lessons from.
Speaker 9 (25:30):
My father, not the least of wish was that you
can fail at what you don't want, so you might
as well take a chance on doing what you want.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I chose to close with that because there are so
many of you out there who, like my dad, worked
for forty years at DuPont, a job he absolutely hated.
He liked the fellows he worked with, but he hated
that job. There was no passion in it. It wasn't
his choice, it wasn't his his great skill set.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
He's a maintenance worker at the plant.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
But it provided for us kids, and that's what he did.
So for every one of you fathers out there who
tuck your kids to bed, who stay up late like
my dad dad did, helping me with my math homework,
who coach your kids' teams, show up at your daughter's
recitals when you don't know anything about dance. Who drive
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your kids all over kingdom? Come, who save to provide,
who work extra to provide. Who are a shoulder to
cry on to every one of you fathers as you
go forth on Father's Day.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
God bless you. Els has good killing me. Thank you
and good night