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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Michael Arry Show is.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
On the air.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
They're reporting that Charlie has died. That he's dead.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
In the age of thirty one, which.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He would have to be if that video was real.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
There's no way he survived that.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
The only good thing is.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It had to have happened quickly.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Charlie inspired millions, and tonight all who knew him and
loved him are united in shock and horror. Charlie was
a patriot who devoted his life to the cause of
open debate and the country that he loved so much,
the United States of America. He fought for liberty, democracy, justice,
and the American people. He's a martyr for truth and freedom.
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Charlie was also a man of deep, deep faith, and
we take comfort in the knowledge that he is now
at peace with God in heavens.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
On nine to eleven, the twenty fourth anniversary.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
The attacking on Twin Tours, on the thirteenth anniversary of Benghazi,
and we remember Charlie Kirk who was assassinated yesterday, And
before we do that, because I've been meaning to do
it for four segments, and Ramon keeps telling me, you idiot,
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President Trump said the following this morning.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
Before we begin, let me express the horror and grief
so many Americans that the hetus assassination of Charlie Kirk felt.
Charlie was a giant of his generation, a champion of.
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Liberty, and an inspiration to millions and millions of people.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Our prayers are with his wonderful wife, Eric and his
beautiful children. Fantastic people they are. We miss him greatly.
Yet I have no doubt that Charlie's voice and the
courage he put into the hearts of countless people, especially
young people, will live on. I'm pleased to announce that
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I will soon be awarding Charlie Kirk posthumously the Presidential
Medal of Freedom. The date of the ceremony will be announced,
and I can only guarantee you one thing that we
will have a very big crowd, very very big.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
This is just perhaps the most important audio we will
play today. I want you to listen to it carefully
because it is deeply profound for such a young man
to make a statement like this, and this is at
the core of what our country stands for. See, if
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if you build something with a flaw that takes it
down then no matter how great it is, it doesn't last.
But if you build in the tools where it can
keep repairing itself into perpetuity, that's what conversation is. The
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left understands. This Left understands you can't take America down
until you can destroy the ability to disagree. And when
you say of someone, if you say something I don't like,
my feelings can be weaponized against you. If you hurt
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my feelings with what you say, your career has to
be destroyed. But also you must be killed. And this
isn't the first we've seen of this. Steve Scalise laid
face down in the dirt of a baseball infield practicing
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for the congressional.
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Softball game as a Bernie bro.
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Walked past Democrats and confirmed that's those that are left
are just Republicans right. Rand Paul was beaten within an
inch of his life when he was sucker punched by
his neighbor who walked over who hates what he stands for.
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President Trump was shot by an inch, And for an inch,
we would have had this conversation we're having today. Back then,
the roles would have been reversed. Charlie Kirk would have
been speaking about our president. Well, he understood what he
was doing, He understood the risk. He was asked that
question many times. You didn't have to be a genius
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to know that. If you announce where you're going to
be and the media all announces where you're going to be,
and the social media goes crazy because they love you
or they hate you, that sprinkled in between three thousand
young people carrying signs saying this or that, when there
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was an attempt to keep you off the campus, every
single place that you go to speak and people who
are complete and utter messes. They're going to be a
mess whether you're alive or not. They're not going to
stop being a mess today. These are broken people suffering dysphoria, anger, frustration, anxiety,
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who've never learned to love themselves and accept who they
are and what they are, whatever that may be. And
so they're angry and if they can just kill someone else,
because blaming someone else is always always their answer. So
Charlie was asked, why does you do this? A woman
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stopped and asked, why are you at my school?
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I go around universities and have challenging conversations and because
that's what is so important to our country is to
find our disagreements respectfully, because when people stop talking, that's
when violence happens. To see someone well, it's a growing
trend because people like me are facing violence, assaults the left, yes,
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the campus Antifa. I've been stormed out of restaurants. I've
been assaulted publicly, multiple death threats.
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So what's your going.
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There's more people that.
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Agree with me than some people would actually believe, and
they come out of the woodwork when I do stuff
like this.
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We record all of it so that we put.
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On the internet so people can see these ideas collide.
When people stop talking, that's when you get violence, and
that's when civil war happens because you start to think
the side is.
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So evil and they lose their humanity. The Michael Berry Show,
Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I can think of no better way to pay tribute
to Charlie Kirk than to ensure the work he did continues.
It's a ministry when you risk your life for what
you do, when you devote your life to that. Much
is made that he is young, and I have made
that point myself, but for the entirety of his adult
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life he has been a missionary for this country, for
the goodness, for the truth, for the Lord. He's been
an evangelist, a true evangelist in the purest sense. Make
no mistake. There might have been some politics talk, but
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it was evangelism for Christ that was unabashed.
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Apologies.
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No.
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I know y'all worship different people, but this is what
I worship. The Bible does not tell you to apologize
before taking up your cross. The Bible commands us to
take up our cross and suffer the consequences unapologetically, because
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if you deny me before men. So we share the
work of Charlie Kirk from a recent podcast talking about
the brutal murder of Irina Zarutska, the young Ukrainian refugee
in North Carolina who was murdered herself slaughtered awfully on
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that train.
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He said, this comes up, takes on.
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A knife, stab for your death fourteen times. He was
previously arrested one four times. Fourteen times he comes up
and just stabs her to death. Situations like this are
a nearly daily occurrence in our cities.
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We do not have to live this way.
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You can create a society in a culture where you
can get on a train or a subway and not
be Arena Zarutska and get stabbed to death in the
neck because some black criminal decides I'm just going to
go do it fourteen times. He was previously arrested and
all of the Kope brother funded liberal criminal justice BS
is the reason why guys like him are still on
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the streets fourteen times. Let's put this back up on
screen and Arena Zarutska, why did she come to America.
She was fleeing violence in Ukraine. It turns out it's
more dangerous and subways in Charlotte, North Carolina than a
war zone in Ukraine.
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That's sad, isn't it. And then Charlie Kirk was asked
told you he was an evangelist. He was asked how
he would like to be remembered.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
How do you want to be remembered? If I die,
everything just goes away.
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How would you if you could be associated with one thing,
how would.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
You want to be remembered be I want to be
remembered for courage from my faith.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
That would be the most important thing. The most important
thing is my faith in my life. Charlie never lost
sight of what was truly important.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I'm just flesh and bone, but more importantly, I'm a soul,
and that soul is accountable to one being. I mean,
I've had an unbelievably blessed life doing this, and that
would be twelve years on June fifth.
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Such a young man to do it.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Yes, so praise God. I mean, I've been all across
the world. I've met with world leaders, a flown in
air Force, one, got to know a president. I have
an amazing family. The podcast turning point, you would say,
is all that stuff, and so you experience that and
you're like, what actually matters. What matters is your relationship
with the divine, your relationship with your family, your kids,
and maybe a close collection of friends, and your relationship
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with the truth.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Charlie was invited to debate students at Oxford on American politics.
Oxford's student union is famous as a forum of great discussion.
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There have been some.
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Phenomenal folks to take up positions, even folks of great
repute whose position I did not subscribe to Christopher Hitchens
on atheism, it's a person of faith. I disagree with
him on that, but there's a lot I do agree
with him on. One of the great debaters, believe it
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or not, I would put him in the category of
the great debaters of the entire last century. And that's
bearing in mind so of the other luminaries whose names
have dotted the pages of the books you've read.
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But here is Charlie.
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We just pulled two minutes worth of Charlie absolutely putting
on a show.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Take it away.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I'll give you a thousand pounds right now if you
could tell me the US citizen that.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Was deported under Donald Trump. You said that twice.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yeah, the US citizen that was deported under Donald Trump?
Can anyone tell me thousand pounds? I give it you
right now. Yeah, name wrong, Not a US citizen, Salvador said,
as in l Salbador anywhere else, US cit is in
deport under Trump. Nope, that was a lie. You should
know better than that. You go to Oxford. So that
is a correction. Number two. Can you tell me when
it comes to Charlottesville something that you said when Donald
Trump said that there were people on both sides, he
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was actually talking about the statue debate, not what you said.
So that's a hoax. That's line number two. Oh yeah,
you said that. Somebody over here said something about Pete
Hegseth being nothing more than a TV host. You should
also mention that he was a service member of the military. Nope, sorry,
I'm going to talk uninterruptedly. Thank you service member, and
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was in a decorated war hero. Funny you didn't mention that.
Oh yes, January sixth came up multiple times from you.
Tried your best, but from you and from the opposition,
it's not an insurrection. You've called them all rioters. It's funny.
A small percentage of people that were actually there on
January sixth did anything violently. The vast majority walked into
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the Capitol building after they were invited. Also, back to
your point, I certainly hope reform an AfD wins. So
I hope that it's not to teach Trump a lesson
that he goes too far. We'll get that in a second. Finally,
the Donald duck really like, what was.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
That all about? What does this jar?
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I have no idea what you're talking about. In the
back of the room, so it's completely lost on me,
So I don't know what that's all about. Also, on
the Canadian border, the professor failed to mention that the
Canadian border was closed. President Trump said fentanyl and the
amount of terrorists that are coming across the Canadian border,
of which the most terrorists that come into America come
across the Canadian border on the terrorist watch list.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You did not mention that.
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And finally, Professor, you never heard of it in South Africa.
Interesting you never heard of that, the fact that a
major political party in South Africa.
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Says quote killed the kill the bores. I would expect
more of.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Somebody who read dissertation and teaches here at Oxford to
say that you would not know about the attempted slaughter
and genocide of white South African.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
To Michael Berry Show, Michael Berry Show, a tribute to Charlie.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
This is six twenty six for Mom from someone on
Twitter known as Fuels God don't know his name, don't.
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Need to hell of a good tribute.
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You are commanded to go do something productive with your life,
to go give and to produce, and to risk, and
to then go so into other people. That is a
biblical idea that has made the world a profoundly better pleas.
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It's been.
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Without you. I'm a friend, and I'll tell you all
about it when I see you again.
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We've come along way from where we began.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I'll tell you all.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Of Jason Chaffitz was on Fox News after Charlie was shot.
He was brought onto Fox News because he was there
at the event where Charlie was shot. You know, we
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should all hope that when we shake off these mortal coils,
you can say of us that we were doing what
we loved, that we were doing it in the daylight,
that we were doing it in front of everyone, and
that we could be proud of it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That's special. That's not very often. That's special.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
When Charlie Kirk first started, the first speaker came up
and the question was about religion, and the guy wanted
to debate the religion. Now, the community in Utah is
very much members of the Church of Jesus Christ, the
Latter day Saints, and he went out of his way
to say, I'm not here. I am here as a
supporter of Jesus Christ. I'm a supporter of God. I
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want people to pray, and we may disagree on certain things,
but I love the LDS people, I love Mormons. And
if you think that I'm here to debate your religion,
I'm not. I love the LDS people. And the crowd cheered.
Not everybody in that crowd is going to be a
member of the Church of Jesus Christ the Latter day Saints.
But he tackled that right away from the first question,
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and I think he gave it the right. When we
go back and play the video and you listen to
his answer, he says what he's always said, which is,
get on your knees pray. And he talked about your
spiritual journey. So even though the person he was speaking
with disagreed with him, he talked about your spiritual journey
like my spiritual journey.
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And it was so well received.
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And then the second person came up to speak and
was given the mic, and that's when the question was,
do you know how many people And I'm not getting
it for Beta Martha, but do you know how many
people of transgenderism have participated in gun violence and mass
shootings versus non transgender And as Charlie Kirk was getting
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ready to answer that and have this discussion back and forth,
that's when the shot rang out.
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You couldn't script a more powerful moment.
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Years from now, we will look back on this, and
I hope we will say it was a turning point,
a turning point for America, A turning point USA. I
hope that's a decision we make. It's a decision we
make based on our choices. I hope that is what
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this turns out to be.
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I really do.
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Pete Hegseth was talking to his troops about his friend
Charlie Kirk, and then he led the group in the
Lord's prayer.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I thought this was a beautiful moment yesterday.
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I'd also be remiss if I did not acknowledge why
that flag is that half staff. We lost an incredible
American today, a dear friend of mine.
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If he knew him, you love him.
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His name is Charlie Kirk, taken by an assassin's bullet. Unfathomable.
The only assurance I can take is that I know
he is with his Lord and Savior right now. He
has heard the words well done, good and faithful servant,
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as I know many of you will hear. And I
didn't quite know what to do after that news with
the rest of the day, but I know what felt
fitting was to definitely come here and be with all
of you, not media, not anything, just because you don't
do this for media, do this for recognition. You do
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this because you love your countries and your communities in
quiet ways that a lot of people don't understand. And
so being here with you, with people who give so much,
who put their lives at risk and their families, know
it is exactly where I should be and where we
should all be. So if you would bow your head
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with me and join me in the Lord's prayer, Our Father,
who are in heaven, how it would be Thy name,
thy Kingdom, Come, Thy will be done on earth.
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As it is in heaven.
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Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us
our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the
glory forever and ever. Amen, Lord Jesus, be with Charlie,
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his family, his kids, his community, and this country.
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Welcome him into your arms. Comfort them.
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When we don't understand your plan, we know your will
be done. We don't always know what that means, but
we know it is in your hands. And I asked
you watch over all these men and women here who
put their lives on the line. Protect them tonight, tomorrow night,
next week, and the months ahead. Lord God, protect them
and we put them under your.
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Shield of protection. It is your son Jesus Christ's name.
We pray Amen. The Lord's prayer is so powerful, so perfect,
so beautiful.
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One of the most amazing things about Charlie Kirk's life
is not how he died, or who shot him or
with so you can deal with all that.
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It was the bravery and the fearlessness.
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He wasn't working on an old platform or out on
a battlefield, but he knew what would happen.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Listen to this.
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At the core of the left, at the core of
a liberal and someone that would use the sword if
they had it.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They are very violent people at their core. They always
have it.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
They can't debate, they can't have conversation, so they'll resort
to these tactics. They're gonna do everything they possibly can
to try to murder this movement because they can't beat us,
so they're going to try to take weapons.
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You know, we're very aware of that. I'm aware of it.
We have full time security. This is not a joke.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
This is.
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Myself twice Michael Berry.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Look at me, man, Now, I drive the school.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
But somebody at Fox, you know, they have some liberals there.
Somebody at Fox posted the headline Charlie Kurk dead. I
hate that way of describing the passing of a person
of respect, so and so dead.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
How callous can you be? Has died? Okay?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
How about has passed? How about we soften that blow,
Let round out the edge of that we know that
that person is no longer alive. Must it be so harsh?
Fox News paid tribute to well before then the has died?
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What went to has been assassinated? Because that is what happened.
He was killed for his views. He wasn't killed for
his watch, He wasn't killed randomly. He was killed for
his views as a public figure. That is an assassination
in the purest sense. You don't have to be a
president to be assassinated. Martin Luther King Junior was also assassinated.
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Fox News paid a beautiful tribute to him. I wish
you could see the video because it really adds to
the power, but I think you'll get the point.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Charlie Kirk is being remembered tonight as a hugely influential,
charismatic and engaging individual committed to civil discourse and the
open exchange of ideas.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Of course, when Mark Meredith looks.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Back at the life of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Good even market right to you.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Charlie Kirk's death is being called a watershed moment, or
even a turning point for the country.
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The thirty one year.
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Old political activist had a massive following both online and
in the quarters of power here in Washington. Before becoming
a household name in conservative politics, Charlie Kirk was a
teenager growing up in the Chicago suburbs. He told The
Daily Caller in twenty nineteen, he knew early on politics matter.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I was always naturally conservative, loved America, loved the values
that our country stood for, and I never understood why
you'd want to deviate from that.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Kirk thought he'd end up at West Point, the Army's
military academy, but after being denied admission, he chose to
start something for himself.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
It's that old adage, one door closes, another door opens.
Of course it's correct.
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In summer twenty twelve, Turning Point the USA was born.
What started small later became a political juggernaut, a conservative
youth activist organization now operating on thirty five hundred high
school and college campuses. Kirk explained what drove him in
his first Fox appearances thirteen years ago.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
A lot of kids are feeling the effects of what
we like to call, you know, with the Washington economy
with a lot of debt, plumbing small business, with higher regulation.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
In high taxes.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
As the Tea Party movement evolved, Turning Point USA grew,
so did its influence the ap writing. Turning Point events
became more ornate, taking on a nightclub atmosphere with strobe
Blitz pyrotechnics and thousands of young conservatives in attendance. Kirk
endorsed then candidate Donald Trump in twenty sixteen and later
worked to re elect him in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I believe it's imperative who got the president elected. In fact,
I think he's going to get reelected.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
As Trump later regrouped for twenty twenty four, Kirk continued
to build an empire and a family. He married his wife, Erica,
in twenty twenty one and later became a dad of two.
Trump himself thanked Kirk for staying loyal amid a year
of chaos, and.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I want to express my tremendous gratitude to Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
He's really an amazing guy.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
With Trump now back in power, Kirk remained active, speaking
out constantly about the conservative movement.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
There's a revival happened in this country right now.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Tonight, tributes continue to pour in for a man many
believe helped change the course of US political history.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
President Trump immediately ordered the black at the White House
to be flown at half staff. He immediately took to
social media to stay his opinion.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
On the matter.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
He will be at the Yankees game tonight to commemorate
nine to eleven. But he he issued a statement. It's
twenty four hours, oh, which might be twenty four years
at this point. But I thought it was important, and
so did he, that he issue a statement at this moment.
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And I think it's important to remember where he was
at that moment, in his mindset, where we were, and
take this statement in that light.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
To my great fellow Americans, I am filled with grief
and anger at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk on
a college campus in Utah. Charlie inspired millions, and tonight
all who knew him and loved him are united in
shock and horror. Charlie was a patriot who devoted his
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life to the cause of open debate and the country
that he loved so much, the United States of America.
He fought for liberty, democracy, justice, and the American people.
He's a martyr for truth and freedom, and there has
never been anyone who was so respected by youth. Charlie
was also a man of deep, deep faith, and we
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take comfort in the knowledge that he is now at
peace with God in heaven. Our prayers are with his wife, Erica,
the two young beloved children, and his entire family, who
he loved more than anything in the world. We asked
God to watch over them in this terrible hour of
heartache and pain. This is a dark moment for America.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Charlie Kirk traveled the.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Nation, joyfully engaging with everyone interested in good faith debate.
His mission was to bring young people into the political process,
which he did better than anybody ever, to share his
love of country, and to spread the simple words of
common sense on campuses nationwide. He championed his ideas with courage, logic, humor,
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and grace. It's a long past time for all Americans
and the media to confront the fact that violence and
murder are the tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom
you disagree day after day, year after year, in the
most hateful and despicable way possible. For years, those on
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the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to
Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals. This
kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that
we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop
right now. My administration will find each and every one
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of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other
political violence, including the organizations that funded and support it,
as well as those who go after our judges, law
enforcement officials, and everyone else who brings order to our country.
From the attack on my life in Butler, Pennsylvania last year,
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which killed a husband and father, to the attacks on
ice agents, to the vicious murder of a healthcare executive
in the streets of New York, to the shooting of
House Majority Leader Steve Scalise and three others, radical level
violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too
many lives. Tonight, they ask all Americans to commit themselves
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to the American values for which Charlie Kirk lived and
died the values of free speech, citizenship, the rule of law,
and the patriotic devotion and love of God. Charlie was
the best of America, and the monster who attacked him
was attacking our whole country. And Assassin tried to silence
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him with a bullet, but he failed, because together we
will ensure that his voice, his message, and his legacy
will live on for countless generations to come. Today, because
of this heinous act, Charlie's voice has become bigger and
grander than ever before, and it's not even close. May
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God bless his memory. May God watch over his family,
and may God bless the United States of America. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
It is a dominant elms have served between men.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Thank you, and goodnight.