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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time. Time time, time, Luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
My friend Wesley Salmon is our guest and he's a
business owner out of Baton Rouge has a business that
does work around the world.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's an engineering firm.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And they were hacked and it changed his whole life.
You know, they have a he has a family, he
has a wife, he has a business, and this became
his twenty four hour obsession.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Impact.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We were together in Palm Beach this weekend. We did
a listener event and he said, you know, these are
the only days I've had off since all this started.
It's been It's wrecked me. It's a pretty awful thing.
And you don't plan for it. You just wake up
one day and get the call. Wesley, talk if you would,
about what is the name of your.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Company, Keystone Engineering.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Keystone Engineering, Talk if you would, about the moment y'all
had the problem and everyone gets on the call. How
y'all brought the FBI in, How you brought the FEDS in,
how you negotiated, and how all that went down, because
that was all new to me.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, unfortunately, I think you know, the FBI has overwhelmed.
I mean, you file a report, they asked for some information,
you know that to me, that's all I seem to
have heard that happened. The you know, when you have
the cyber insurance, you have a team that they do
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battle with those guys every day. I mean, it's a
there's almost a script to it.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Weird.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Uh, you know they're going to have this. They come
and you know, you get an email and it's very polite,
you know, and it's just very yes, you know, you
know we've done this and we really want to help
you out and you know, let you have your stuff back,
but you know we need this, you know. And then
and you know, it seems to be the communication really
drags because I guess you know, as a negotiation tactic,
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you know, we want to go, go go, and so
you know, for every beginning they take two days to
answer back an email. And again we had a team
that negotiated, so you know, they might ask us to
approve language, but you know, they did negotiating. And then,
you know, and then as you get into the second
week of it, it seems to get serious and the
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numbers get closer, and you know, you agree to with
some you know, hypothetically two days later we could have
had our life back. But it, you know, we just
had some failures due to the you know, I just
you know, if you drain a battery to zero, sometimes
that battery never comes back.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
When they negotiated, and I guess this was the part
that kind of surprised me, because they have no reason
to be upsending. Once they got their payment and the
deal was done involuntarily, I suppose.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
They left you alone.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah. You know, we heard a story about a competitor
a year before us, and they got hit and at
first they weren't going to pay them, but then you know,
they ended up they ended up paying them and getting
their stuff back. And then two weeks later they got
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hit by another party and locked them out, and they
went back to the original people that hit them and
got help from them, so they didn't have to pay
this third person. I mean, it's kind of an honor
amongst thieves. Thing going.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I guess it's pretty horrifying to imagine, because, as you know,
most businesses don't make it. Most businesses that start closed,
it's just a matter of how long. And to think
that you're out here competing, you've got to compete against
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the rest of the world in honest competition. You've got
to compete against the companies that are subsidized by foreign workers.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
You've got to compete.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
American workers cost more than foreign workers, so you've got
to compete where your labor rates are higher, environmental restrictions,
you've got labor restrictions, you've got high taxes, you've got
all the challenges in the marketplace, and then this comes
along and it's just sort of frustrating because my heart
goes out to people out there. I don't think the
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average person that punches a clock appreciates the level of
stress a small to mid size business owner in hers
because no matter, no matter what, you're just a flip
of a switch from being out of business. And I
think the thing that most people who do what you do,
and I know you well enough know this is the case.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Your worst fear is these people all.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Being out of all being out of work, And it's
horrifying to think about and to think that this could
happen so easily.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You know, you had no you had no preparation for this.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
It just happened. Yeah, I know, I'd agree with you completely.
I said, I've expressed that like life is hard. It's
already hard, you know, and then you just get like
hit by meteorite. I mean, what's except I think they're
aiming to metea rights now you know. I mean it
is part of business, is been Thats what I mean.
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Like for us, it was we thought we were prepared
and it was hit in the back. But I think
in the future everybody needs to add this to the
list of things to worry about on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, so worrying obviously means being attentive to Are there
bits of advice you with how you you said over
the weekend because we had other business owners there, get
cyber insurance, so at least once the damage is done,
we don't want our house to burn down, but at
least get fire insurance. Are there other things that you
learned in this process that you didn't know before that
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you would give as proscriptive advice to others?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Well. Part of the cyber insurance if you get a
good if you go and find a good policy, you
know you don't get the minimum policy. They will require
you to build an audit on your entire system and
so there you know, there are threat vectors out there
that they know about, and so we upgraded our system
at the time to get to qualify to get the insurance.
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And so that'll force your IT department because you know,
everybody's everybody you know has their own domain and IT
guys are you know, historically famous for you know, don't
touch my stuff. So it kind of forces their hand,
the IT department's hand to make sure they look under
every corner. If you have an IT company, uh whether
it's if you have a if you have a relationship
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with an IT company, uh h, they are great. You know,
they can do monitoring. There's certain softwares. Sentanol is one,
but there's two or three out there that are another
layer of security. So I would say, you know, definitely
after cyber with cyber insurance, you want to be in
touch with your I T professional to get the latest,
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the latest, because there's still a lot of you know,
there's still a lot of probably easy pickings out there,
and you just don't want to be the easy pickings.
So if they if they come looking and they see,
you know, they've got this there and they've you know,
they're gonna move on to the next guy.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know, at the end of the day, that's what
most security systems are about. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Friends of mine will say, and you've got all these
gates and all these cameras and all these lights that
come on. You got all this. You've got a German
shepherd and you've got all these different things with they
really want to get you, they'll get you, and I, oh, yeah,
but they got to really, really, really really want to
get me, because my neighbors don't have all that. If
you just make it harder than the next guy, you're
improving your situation. Wesley Sam a horrible story. Hopefully somebody
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can learn something about it. Go in and focus on
the internal security of your system. I know it doesn't
result in more sales tomorrow for any business, but it's
a reality and it's happening, and it's only going to
happen more.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Thanks buddy, You've got Michael Barry show.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Let's talk about the backgrounds of some of the Democrat leaders,
shall we. Barack Obama's father was a communist nationalist in
Kenya and he was part of what came to be
known as the Mau Mau Rebellion, and that was violence
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toward the white colonialists, the British in this case, sometime
look up how his father died.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
It's an interesting story. His father hated white people, but
he liked him white women. Mm hmm. It was.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It was well known that he had dalliances with quite
a few of them white women.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Maybe he thought that was that was part of his
conquering of the white women. He he had a lot
of strong views on the white people and he didn't
like him.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And it's interesting that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
While he wasn't involved in Barack Obama's uh of Barack
Obama's upbringing, Barry Sotero, as he was raised by the
by the next man his mom took up with, felt
a need when he went to Occidental College to get
in touch with his African socialist roots. So Barry Sotero
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changed his name to Barack Obama.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
H odd.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You took on the name of the man who had
no part in raising you, and he took on the
identity of this sort of socialist black intellectual.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Who's going to reform.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
America in the image of the African Asian socialist because
the one great country in the world must be destroyed
and he would be the man to do it. Then
you consider the case of Kamala Harris, Indian mother, black father.
Some of the things that she has said before she
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was running for president that they said about this country.
So why do these people keep coming to this country
and hate it so much? You see the case of
these people who are the children of professors who come
here from India, Africa, Asia, and they absolutely positively hate
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this country. And their children have this desire not to serve,
but to fix, because you see, America is broken by
their measure. On Christmas Day, they felt left out. On Easter,
they didn't know what to do. They felt weird on
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id nobody gave them a Muslim greeting. They felt odd
going to mosque. They were criticized for the mosque prayer
call early in the morning. People in the neighborhood said,
you're wagging us up. Knock it off. We'll fix that,
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won't we. And you start realizing you need to understand
what the mindset of Azori Moundani is, what the mindset
of an ilhan Omar is. These people are not coming.
They woke up and chose anger. They can present it
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real nice, an iron fist and a velvet glove, but
make no mistake what's underneath it.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Kami Mumdani's father, professor at Columbia University, claims that the
Allies during World War Two and the Nazis had the
same agenda. Wow, so our grandparents fought for the exact
same thing the Nazis were fighting for. We weren't a
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force of good in the world. My Mood Mamdani, father
of Zora and Mumdani.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Says these sorts of things.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
As a professor at Columbia University, so you work so
hard to save up that your child may go to
the university and the esteemed Columbia University, so that.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
He can learn this.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
This is what he's going to learn. This is what
you've said sacrifice for. This is what our government is
pouring tax dollars into.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
It.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So longer clip than I would normally play, But I
want you to hear.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I want you to I want you to force yourself
to listen to it.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
As as objectionable as it is, the Nazi political project
was shared by the Allies, and that political project was
to turn Germany into a pure nation, a pure nation
rid of its minorities. When the Allies defeated the Nazis,
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and went into East Eastern Europe. They began to create
pure nations to ethnically cleanse Eastern Europe of Germans, moved
them back into Germany. One crime doesn't wipe out another.
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A Christian nation state decides to cleans it of all
religious minorities Jews and Muslims in particular, and at the
same time launches a colonization experience experiment. The Discovery of
the Americas, I argue that nationalism and colonialism are not
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two different things. America is the genesis of what we
call settler colonialism, and the American model was exported all
around the world. In America, you have two kinds of
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minorities that have run the course of the history of
the modern American state. The American Indian and the African American.
Each has a different significant for our contemporary era. The
American Indians were the people on that land when the
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settlers conquered it. First is try to eliminate as many
Indians as possible. This was the first recorded genocide in
modern history. Then, with the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln generalized
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the solution of reservations. They herded American Indians into separate
territories for the Nazis for the Nazis. This was the inspiration.
Hitler realized two things. One that genocide was doable. It
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is possible to do genocide. That's what Hitler realized. Second
thing Hitler realized is that you don't have to have
a common citizenship. You can differentiate between people. The Nuremberg
laws were patterned after American laws. Anyway, the US put
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Indians in reservations. The US invented the model what we
call today the two state solution, the American state, and
alongside it several protectorates with degrees of autonomy but no independence.
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It has had its own effect, and we will realize
the effect if we contrast it with what happened to
the African man.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
This is the Michael berrishell.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I've talked to a number of retailers who said, there's
an economic impact to the loss of the illegal aliens
because those people provided basic services, because those people were consumers.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
And this is all true, and I sort of liken
that to.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Let's say you've got a gang in a community and
they're shooting up the community and it's a living hell
for the residents, but the gang buys turkeys for the
kids at Thanksgiving, maybe buys helmets and footballs for the
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kids for their football league. If you shut that gang down,
there's no footballs and helmets turkeys. But the overall good
is well worth it. Right, So the challenge becomes as
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a society, are we prepared for the fact that not
everyone wins when you make an improvement, for instance, interest rates,
interest rates dropping, I'd like to see him drop a
full percentage point one hundred basis points.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I'd like to see that. I think that if.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Powell liked Trump, did you do everything he could to
make it happen. We're talking about interest rates in a moment,
but people think that it's good for everybody if interest
rates drop, But that's not necessarily true. There are people
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and their business model or where they are situated at
this moment for whom higher interest rates are a good thing.
Are given example, if you're a cash buyer right now,
or if you've been a cash buyer before we started
seeing these recent rounds of interest rate drops. When it's
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harder for people to borrow money, the guy with the
cash has all the power. So if you were a
buyer and you go in and say, hey, you want
one hundred thousand dollars for your property. I give you
seventy five, and he says, to hell with you. Okay,
let me know when you'll take seventy five. And when
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no one can afford the note on one hundred thousand dollars,
he calls back to seventy five. The seventy five was
put in a better position because everybody else couldn't borrow money,
his cash was king. So there are always winners and
losers in a sophisticated economy. And I say that because
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I see these cases of people. I hear people saying,
you know, I'm not sure about the deportations and all that.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
It's hurting my business in this way or that way,
but overall it will be good.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
There was a time before which we had all this
illegal immigration, and then illegal immigration seeped into our economy
and people figure out how to use it to make money.
And so when that becomes what they use to make money,
you pull it back out, and it's frightening at first,
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but you stay the course because it's the right thing
to do. And if you needed a reminder why it's
the right thing to do. Returned to the case of
the horrific video of the drunk illegal alien with a
commercial driver's license, killing three after causing a chain reaction
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crash with a semi that he was driving. He had
his CDL thanks to Gavin Newsom's sanctuary state policies. Three
people of Pomona High School basketball coach and his wife
killed in last week's crash. The DA's office says that
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eyewitnesses in dash cam video shows Josham Preet Singh twenty one,
traveling at a high rate of speed into stopped traffic
along the westbound ten Freeway in Ontario, causing a chain
reaction crash.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
This is awful.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Department of Homeland Security issued and Immigration arrest detained Singh,
who they say entered the US illegally in twenty twenty two.
Here's the story from ABC seven, Actually Moon, hold on,
hold on, don't don't play that yet, don't play you.
The Department of Transportation says that California is violating federal
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law by allowing people like this to continue driving when
they should be disqualified from driving. That report from the
DOT says state of California failed to enforce an emergency
rule issued in September. That emergency rule tightened licensing requirements.
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For all non US citizens. In June, California issued this
guy who is an asylum seeker.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That's just a way of saying he wants to live
here for free.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
A restricted non domiciled CDL with a k restriction limiting
his driving to staying in the state of California. In September,
the federal government paused all issuances of non domiciled CDLs
and a family is dead.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Shackled and wearing an orange shield jumpsuit, twenty one year
old Jesshine Prit Singh appeared in a Rancho Cucamonga courtroom
to face charges of vehicular manslaughter while in talkicated and
driving under the influence causing injury. Dash campidio shows the
horrifying moment, investigators say, Singh, behind the wheel of a
freightliner truck, plowed through several stop cars, killing three people.
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In court, Singh pled not guilty through his public defender
with an interpreter by his side. Now, federal officials say
this tragedy never should have happened. The Department of Transportation
released what it is calling a quote bombshell report accusing
California of violating federal law by allowing Singh to continue
driving when he should have been disqualified. The report says
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that the state failed to enforce an emergency rule issued
in September one that tightened license requirements for all non
US citizens.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
In June, California.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Issued Singh, who is an asylum seeker, a restricted non
domicile commercial driver's license with a k restriction limiting driving
to in state. Then in September, the federal government paused
all issuances of non domicile CDLs. In October, Singh turned
twenty one and his cave restriction was removed, which DOT
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officials say, if California had followed the new rule, Singh's
license would have been denied because of his status as
an asylum seeker. Governor Gavin Newsom's office pushing back on
those claims in a statement, saying the federal government approved
and renewed this individual's federal employment authorization multiple times, which
allowed him to obtain a commercial driver's license in accordance
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with federal law.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Listen to the Michael Berry Show podcast if You Dare.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
A San Bernardino, California sheriff's deputy was shot and killed
while responding to a domestic violence call. My brother was
an over thirty year law enforcement officer, and he used
to tell me one of the most dangerous places you
can go. Serving a warrant was always bad because you
might be going out to get a guy who does
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not want to go back to prison and maybe going
back for a long time, and so he'll go out
and blaze the glory and so you've you know, you've
got to deal with that. But domestic violence calls are
a little crazy because sometimes the most dangerous part of
that is a man and a woman who get into
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a fight and she's getting the worst of it because
he's stronger than she is. So she calls nine one one,
like I'll show you you'll get arrested. Well, the mindset
changed some number of years ago because officers would show
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up and ed get there and she'd feel bad and
she'd say, no, no, no, I don't want to press charges. Sure, mam,
are you sure to take her away from him? He's
clearly knocked you in the head.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You sure, I don't want to leave you here? And
she said no.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
And the theory was she don't want to press charges
because if she sent him away for that night, eventually
he's going to get out and he's going to beat
her up worse. So her logic would be, if I
don't get him taken down, I might get knocked around
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a little more for calling nine to one one, but
it won't be as bad as if he has to
spend the night in the jail, because tomorrow it's going
to be bad. And so over a period of time,
I think you had a lot more women get into
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prosecutorial positions and leadership positions and police departments and political positions,
and the view kind of changed, and then there was
this mindset and this is where we are now that says,
as an officer, if I up, one of you is
going down. And that was supposed to be. And again,
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this is one of those well intentioned policy changes that
sometimes is worse than the problem itself. But people don't
they don't want to admit that. They're very proud of themselves.
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Automatic arrest were going down, so and it's almost always
going to be the man. So what will end up
happening is you get there, and this is just one
of the results of this kind of case. You get
there and you go to arrest him, and then she
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don't want her baby to leave because she loves her,
honey bun, and now she's mad at you the cop.
So now you got to keep your eye on him.
But you've got to be careful because their situations where
she'll do something to the cop. I know it's irrational
when men and women fight. We're in a couple. There
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are just all sorts of crazy, irrational things that can happen.
It is not humanity at its finest. You might have
said something to your wife, or she might have said
something to you that you think back and go, man,
I would never say that to somebody else. It could
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be crazy. We can be crazy with the ones we love.
So the sheriff's deputy was shot and killed while responding
to a domestic violence call in San Bernardino, Calli County
in California, and then he.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Goes on to run.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
He leads Popo on a chase in a motorcycle, and
an off duty officer, thank god for him, was driving
on the freeway in his own car and he saved
the day. He veered his car into the motorcycle, sending
the bad guy flying over the handlebars and the Sheriff's department.
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Instead of acting stupid, which too often people in public
life Do praised him, saying he put himself on duty
and conducted a legal intervention, thereby bringing an end to
the chase. The story from k t LA.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
He's got those lights and sirens blaring right behind him.
We just saw a black and white squad car off
the freeway directly that he had just passed. Oh okay,
lay white out here. It looked like he was he
had turned around on the motorcycle. I was just getting
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ready to push that. It looked like he had spot
himself around on the seat.
Speaker 9 (29:59):
I kind of like, I kind of like to imagine,
you know, what's going on in your mind at that point,
Deputy Andrew Nunez remembered by the San Bernardino Force.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Let's not forget someone died out of all of this.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
We just saw a black and white squad car.
Speaker 10 (30:20):
A murder suspect on a motorcycle flipped onto the freeway
after gunning down this Sam Bernardino Sheriff's deputy.
Speaker 11 (30:28):
Oh okay.
Speaker 10 (30:29):
It started just after twelve thirty this afternoon, when twenty
eight year old Deputy Andrew Nuniez responded to a report
of a man with a gun threatening his girlfriend on
Hollyhock Drive in Francho Cucamonga.
Speaker 11 (30:43):
You're getting what we call a domestic violence involving a
man with a gun. We know we've got to get there,
and I can tell you one hundred percent, the deputy
Nunyas wanted to make sure that he protect the public.
Speaker 10 (30:55):
The responding deputies were fired upon as soon as they
arrived on scene. Deputy Nunyaz shot in the head of
their law enforcement pulled a gravely injured Nunyez away from
the line of fire.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
I saw the officer's body laying there. I knew that
he was gone, but someone came over to give him
CPR compressions, but nothing happened. So I was praying that
when he went into the ambulance they would be able
to revive him.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
He is being pursued and he needs to bring this
to a stop.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
The suspect took off on a motorcycle, triggering a frantic
pursuit on the two ten freeway.
Speaker 11 (31:34):
We got reports live from the helicopter. We're in excess
of one hundred and fifty and even close to sometimes
almost two hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
That pursuit ended with a wild crash shown live on
kt LA. A sheriff's deputy in his own car forced
a coalition with the suspect.
Speaker 11 (31:51):
The off duty deputy sheriff who put himself on duty
and conducted a legal intervention by hitting the suspect on
the motorcycle, visiting the motorcycle to go down.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
The suspect was airlifted from the crash scene in stable
condition and likely will face charges of murder of a
police officer and domestic violences.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Has not for the name, Thank you, and good night.
It's that time. Time time, time, Luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
My friend Wesley Salmon is our guest and he's a
business owner out of Baton Rouge has a business that
does work around the world.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's an engineering firm.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And they were hacked and it changed his whole life.
You know, they have a he has a family, he
has a wife, he has a business, and this became
his twenty four hour obsession.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Impact.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We were together in Palm Beach this weekend. We did
a listener event and he said, you know, these are
the only days I've had off since all this started.
It's been It's wrecked me. It's a pretty awful thing.
And you don't plan for it. You just wake up
one day and get the call. Wesley, talk if you would,
about what is the name of your.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Company, Keystone Engineering.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Keystone Engineering, Talk if you would, about the moment y'all
had the problem and everyone gets on the call. How
y'all brought the FBI in, How you brought the FEDS in,
how you negotiated, and how all that went down, because
that was all new to me.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, unfortunately, I think you know, the FBI has overwhelmed.
I mean, you file a report, they asked for some information,
you know that to me, that's all I seem to
have heard that happened. The you know, when you have
the cyber insurance, you have a team that they do
(01:53):
battle with those guys every day. I mean, it's a
there's almost a script to it.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Weird.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Uh, you know they're going to have this. They come
and you know, you get an email and it's very polite,
you know, and it's just very yes, you know, you
know we've done this and we really want to help
you out and you know, let you have your stuff back,
but you know we need this, you know. And then
and you know, it seems to be the communication really
drags because I guess you know, as a negotiation tactic,
(02:20):
you know, we want to go, go go, and so
you know, for every beginning they take two days to
answer back an email. And again we had a team
that negotiated, so you know, they might ask us to
approve language, but you know, they did negotiating. And then,
you know, and then as you get into the second
week of it, it seems to get serious and the
(02:41):
numbers get closer, and you know, you agree to with
some you know, hypothetically two days later we could have
had our life back. But it, you know, we just
had some failures due to the you know, I just
you know, if you drain a battery to zero, sometimes
that battery never comes back.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
When they negotiated, and I guess this was the part
that kind of surprised me, because they have no reason
to be upsending. Once they got their payment and the
deal was done involuntarily, I suppose.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
They left you alone.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah. You know, we heard a story about a competitor
a year before us, and they got hit and at
first they weren't going to pay them, but then you know,
they ended up they ended up paying them and getting
their stuff back. And then two weeks later they got
(03:38):
hit by another party and locked them out, and they
went back to the original people that hit them and
got help from them, so they didn't have to pay
this third person. I mean, it's kind of an honor
amongst thieves. Thing going.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I guess it's pretty horrifying to imagine, because, as you know,
most businesses don't make it. Most businesses that start closed,
it's just a matter of how long. And to think
that you're out here competing, you've got to compete against
(04:20):
the rest of the world in honest competition. You've got
to compete against the companies that are subsidized by foreign workers.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
You've got to compete.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
American workers cost more than foreign workers, so you've got
to compete where your labor rates are higher, environmental restrictions,
you've got labor restrictions, you've got high taxes, you've got
all the challenges in the marketplace, and then this comes
along and it's just sort of frustrating because my heart
goes out to people out there. I don't think the
(04:51):
average person that punches a clock appreciates the level of
stress a small to mid size business owner in hers
because no matter, no matter what, you're just a flip
of a switch from being out of business. And I
think the thing that most people who do what you do,
and I know you well enough know this is the case.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Your worst fear is these people all.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Being out of all being out of work, And it's
horrifying to think about and to think that this could
happen so easily.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You know, you had no you had no preparation for this.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
It just happened. Yeah, I know, I'd agree with you completely.
I said, I've expressed that like life is hard. It's
already hard, you know, and then you just get like
hit by meteorite. I mean, what's except I think they're
aiming to metea rights now you know. I mean it
is part of business, is been Thats what I mean.
(05:42):
Like for us, it was we thought we were prepared
and it was hit in the back. But I think
in the future everybody needs to add this to the
list of things to worry about on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, so worrying obviously means being attentive to Are there
bits of advice you with how you you said over
the weekend because we had other business owners there, get
cyber insurance, so at least once the damage is done,
we don't want our house to burn down, but at
least get fire insurance. Are there other things that you
learned in this process that you didn't know before that
(06:15):
you would give as proscriptive advice to others?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Well. Part of the cyber insurance if you get a
good if you go and find a good policy, you
know you don't get the minimum policy. They will require
you to build an audit on your entire system and
so there you know, there are threat vectors out there
that they know about, and so we upgraded our system
at the time to get to qualify to get the insurance.
(06:42):
And so that'll force your IT department because you know,
everybody's everybody you know has their own domain and IT
guys are you know, historically famous for you know, don't
touch my stuff. So it kind of forces their hand,
the IT department's hand to make sure they look under
every corner. If you have an IT company, uh whether
it's if you have a if you have a relationship
(07:05):
with an IT company, uh h, they are great. You know,
they can do monitoring. There's certain softwares. Sentanol is one,
but there's two or three out there that are another
layer of security. So I would say, you know, definitely
after cyber with cyber insurance, you want to be in
touch with your I T professional to get the latest,
(07:29):
the latest, because there's still a lot of you know,
there's still a lot of probably easy pickings out there,
and you just don't want to be the easy pickings.
So if they if they come looking and they see,
you know, they've got this there and they've you know,
they're gonna move on to the next guy.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know, at the end of the day, that's what
most security systems are about. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Friends of mine will say, and you've got all these
gates and all these cameras and all these lights that
come on. You got all this. You've got a German
shepherd and you've got all these different things with they
really want to get you, they'll get you, and I, oh, yeah,
but they got to really, really, really really want to
get me, because my neighbors don't have all that. If
you just make it harder than the next guy, you're
improving your situation. Wesley Sam a horrible story. Hopefully somebody
(08:11):
can learn something about it. Go in and focus on
the internal security of your system. I know it doesn't
result in more sales tomorrow for any business, but it's
a reality and it's happening, and it's only going to
happen more.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Thanks buddy, You've got Michael Barry show.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Let's talk about the backgrounds of some of the Democrat leaders,
shall we. Barack Obama's father was a communist nationalist in
Kenya and he was part of what came to be
known as the Mau Mau Rebellion, and that was violence
(08:50):
toward the white colonialists, the British in this case, sometime
look up how his father died.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
It's an interesting story. His father hated white people, but
he liked him white women. Mm hmm. It was.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It was well known that he had dalliances with quite
a few of them white women.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Maybe he thought that was that was part of his
conquering of the white women. He he had a lot
of strong views on the white people and he didn't
like him.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And it's interesting that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
While he wasn't involved in Barack Obama's uh of Barack
Obama's upbringing, Barry Sotero, as he was raised by the
by the next man his mom took up with, felt
a need when he went to Occidental College to get
in touch with his African socialist roots. So Barry Sotero
(09:50):
changed his name to Barack Obama.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
H odd.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You took on the name of the man who had
no part in raising you, and he took on the
identity of this sort of socialist black intellectual.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Who's going to reform.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
America in the image of the African Asian socialist because
the one great country in the world must be destroyed
and he would be the man to do it. Then
you consider the case of Kamala Harris, Indian mother, black father.
Some of the things that she has said before she
(10:32):
was running for president that they said about this country.
So why do these people keep coming to this country
and hate it so much? You see the case of
these people who are the children of professors who come
here from India, Africa, Asia, and they absolutely positively hate
(10:56):
this country. And their children have this desire not to serve,
but to fix, because you see, America is broken by
their measure. On Christmas Day, they felt left out. On Easter,
they didn't know what to do. They felt weird on
(11:17):
id nobody gave them a Muslim greeting. They felt odd
going to mosque. They were criticized for the mosque prayer
call early in the morning. People in the neighborhood said,
you're wagging us up. Knock it off. We'll fix that,
(11:39):
won't we. And you start realizing you need to understand
what the mindset of Azori Moundani is, what the mindset
of an ilhan Omar is. These people are not coming.
They woke up and chose anger. They can present it
(12:01):
real nice, an iron fist and a velvet glove, but
make no mistake what's underneath it.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Kami Mumdani's father, professor at Columbia University, claims that the
Allies during World War Two and the Nazis had the
same agenda. Wow, so our grandparents fought for the exact
same thing the Nazis were fighting for. We weren't a
(12:31):
force of good in the world. My Mood Mamdani, father
of Zora and Mumdani.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Says these sorts of things.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
As a professor at Columbia University, so you work so
hard to save up that your child may go to
the university and the esteemed Columbia University, so that.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
He can learn this.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
This is what he's going to learn. This is what
you've said sacrifice for. This is what our government is
pouring tax dollars into.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
It.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So longer clip than I would normally play, But I
want you to hear.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I want you to I want you to force yourself
to listen to it.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
As as objectionable as it is, the Nazi political project
was shared by the Allies, and that political project was
to turn Germany into a pure nation, a pure nation
rid of its minorities. When the Allies defeated the Nazis,
(13:33):
and went into East Eastern Europe. They began to create
pure nations to ethnically cleanse Eastern Europe of Germans, moved
them back into Germany. One crime doesn't wipe out another.
(13:55):
A Christian nation state decides to cleans it of all
religious minorities Jews and Muslims in particular, and at the
same time launches a colonization experience experiment. The Discovery of
the Americas, I argue that nationalism and colonialism are not
(14:24):
two different things. America is the genesis of what we
call settler colonialism, and the American model was exported all
around the world. In America, you have two kinds of
(14:45):
minorities that have run the course of the history of
the modern American state. The American Indian and the African American.
Each has a different significant for our contemporary era. The
American Indians were the people on that land when the
(15:10):
settlers conquered it. First is try to eliminate as many
Indians as possible. This was the first recorded genocide in
modern history. Then, with the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln generalized
(15:32):
the solution of reservations. They herded American Indians into separate
territories for the Nazis for the Nazis. This was the inspiration.
Hitler realized two things. One that genocide was doable. It
(15:54):
is possible to do genocide. That's what Hitler realized. Second
thing Hitler realized is that you don't have to have
a common citizenship. You can differentiate between people. The Nuremberg
laws were patterned after American laws. Anyway, the US put
(16:16):
Indians in reservations. The US invented the model what we
call today the two state solution, the American state, and
alongside it several protectorates with degrees of autonomy but no independence.
(16:38):
It has had its own effect, and we will realize
the effect if we contrast it with what happened to
the African man.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
This is the Michael berrishell.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I've talked to a number of retailers who said, there's
an economic impact to the loss of the illegal aliens
because those people provided basic services, because those people were consumers.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
And this is all true, and I sort of liken
that to.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Let's say you've got a gang in a community and
they're shooting up the community and it's a living hell
for the residents, but the gang buys turkeys for the
kids at Thanksgiving, maybe buys helmets and footballs for the
(17:40):
kids for their football league. If you shut that gang down,
there's no footballs and helmets turkeys. But the overall good
is well worth it. Right, So the challenge becomes as
(18:01):
a society, are we prepared for the fact that not
everyone wins when you make an improvement, for instance, interest rates,
interest rates dropping, I'd like to see him drop a
full percentage point one hundred basis points.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I'd like to see that. I think that if.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Powell liked Trump, did you do everything he could to
make it happen. We're talking about interest rates in a moment,
but people think that it's good for everybody if interest
rates drop, But that's not necessarily true. There are people
(18:49):
and their business model or where they are situated at
this moment for whom higher interest rates are a good thing.
Are given example, if you're a cash buyer right now,
or if you've been a cash buyer before we started
seeing these recent rounds of interest rate drops. When it's
(19:11):
harder for people to borrow money, the guy with the
cash has all the power. So if you were a
buyer and you go in and say, hey, you want
one hundred thousand dollars for your property. I give you
seventy five, and he says, to hell with you. Okay,
let me know when you'll take seventy five. And when
(19:31):
no one can afford the note on one hundred thousand dollars,
he calls back to seventy five. The seventy five was
put in a better position because everybody else couldn't borrow money,
his cash was king. So there are always winners and
losers in a sophisticated economy. And I say that because
(19:57):
I see these cases of people. I hear people saying,
you know, I'm not sure about the deportations and all that.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
It's hurting my business in this way or that way,
but overall it will be good.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
There was a time before which we had all this
illegal immigration, and then illegal immigration seeped into our economy
and people figure out how to use it to make money.
And so when that becomes what they use to make money,
you pull it back out, and it's frightening at first,
(20:33):
but you stay the course because it's the right thing
to do. And if you needed a reminder why it's
the right thing to do. Returned to the case of
the horrific video of the drunk illegal alien with a
commercial driver's license, killing three after causing a chain reaction
(20:55):
crash with a semi that he was driving. He had
his CDL thanks to Gavin Newsom's sanctuary state policies. Three
people of Pomona High School basketball coach and his wife
killed in last week's crash. The DA's office says that
(21:16):
eyewitnesses in dash cam video shows Josham Preet Singh twenty one,
traveling at a high rate of speed into stopped traffic
along the westbound ten Freeway in Ontario, causing a chain
reaction crash.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
This is awful.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Department of Homeland Security issued and Immigration arrest detained Singh,
who they say entered the US illegally in twenty twenty two.
Here's the story from ABC seven, Actually Moon, hold on,
hold on, don't don't play that yet, don't play you.
The Department of Transportation says that California is violating federal
(21:57):
law by allowing people like this to continue driving when
they should be disqualified from driving. That report from the
DOT says state of California failed to enforce an emergency
rule issued in September. That emergency rule tightened licensing requirements.
(22:18):
For all non US citizens. In June, California issued this
guy who is an asylum seeker.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That's just a way of saying he wants to live
here for free.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
A restricted non domiciled CDL with a k restriction limiting
his driving to staying in the state of California. In September,
the federal government paused all issuances of non domiciled CDLs
and a family is dead.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Shackled and wearing an orange shield jumpsuit, twenty one year
old Jesshine Prit Singh appeared in a Rancho Cucamonga courtroom
to face charges of vehicular manslaughter while in talkicated and
driving under the influence causing injury. Dash campidio shows the
horrifying moment, investigators say, Singh, behind the wheel of a
freightliner truck, plowed through several stop cars, killing three people.
(23:14):
In court, Singh pled not guilty through his public defender
with an interpreter by his side. Now, federal officials say
this tragedy never should have happened. The Department of Transportation
released what it is calling a quote bombshell report accusing
California of violating federal law by allowing Singh to continue
driving when he should have been disqualified. The report says
(23:36):
that the state failed to enforce an emergency rule issued
in September one that tightened license requirements for all non
US citizens.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
In June, California.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Issued Singh, who is an asylum seeker, a restricted non
domicile commercial driver's license with a k restriction limiting driving
to in state. Then in September, the federal government paused
all issuances of non domicile CDLs. In October, Singh turned
twenty one and his cave restriction was removed, which DOT
(24:08):
officials say, if California had followed the new rule, Singh's
license would have been denied because of his status as
an asylum seeker. Governor Gavin Newsom's office pushing back on
those claims in a statement, saying the federal government approved
and renewed this individual's federal employment authorization multiple times, which
allowed him to obtain a commercial driver's license in accordance
(24:29):
with federal law.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Listen to the Michael Berry Show podcast if You Dare.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
A San Bernardino, California sheriff's deputy was shot and killed
while responding to a domestic violence call. My brother was
an over thirty year law enforcement officer, and he used
to tell me one of the most dangerous places you
can go. Serving a warrant was always bad because you
might be going out to get a guy who does
(24:57):
not want to go back to prison and maybe going
back for a long time, and so he'll go out
and blaze the glory and so you've you know, you've
got to deal with that. But domestic violence calls are
a little crazy because sometimes the most dangerous part of
that is a man and a woman who get into
(25:19):
a fight and she's getting the worst of it because
he's stronger than she is. So she calls nine one one,
like I'll show you you'll get arrested. Well, the mindset
changed some number of years ago because officers would show
(25:44):
up and ed get there and she'd feel bad and
she'd say, no, no, no, I don't want to press charges. Sure, mam,
are you sure to take her away from him? He's
clearly knocked you in the head.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You sure, I don't want to leave you here? And
she said no.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
And the theory was she don't want to press charges
because if she sent him away for that night, eventually
he's going to get out and he's going to beat
her up worse. So her logic would be, if I
don't get him taken down, I might get knocked around
(26:24):
a little more for calling nine to one one, but
it won't be as bad as if he has to
spend the night in the jail, because tomorrow it's going
to be bad. And so over a period of time,
I think you had a lot more women get into
(26:44):
prosecutorial positions and leadership positions and police departments and political positions,
and the view kind of changed, and then there was
this mindset and this is where we are now that says,
as an officer, if I up, one of you is
going down. And that was supposed to be. And again,
(27:06):
this is one of those well intentioned policy changes that
sometimes is worse than the problem itself. But people don't
they don't want to admit that. They're very proud of themselves.
(27:26):
Automatic arrest were going down, so and it's almost always
going to be the man. So what will end up
happening is you get there, and this is just one
of the results of this kind of case. You get
there and you go to arrest him, and then she
(27:47):
don't want her baby to leave because she loves her,
honey bun, and now she's mad at you the cop.
So now you got to keep your eye on him.
But you've got to be careful because their situations where
she'll do something to the cop. I know it's irrational
when men and women fight. We're in a couple. There
(28:11):
are just all sorts of crazy, irrational things that can happen.
It is not humanity at its finest. You might have
said something to your wife, or she might have said
something to you that you think back and go, man,
I would never say that to somebody else. It could
(28:32):
be crazy. We can be crazy with the ones we love.
So the sheriff's deputy was shot and killed while responding
to a domestic violence call in San Bernardino, Calli County
in California, and then he.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Goes on to run.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
He leads Popo on a chase in a motorcycle, and
an off duty officer, thank god for him, was driving
on the freeway in his own car and he saved
the day. He veered his car into the motorcycle, sending
the bad guy flying over the handlebars and the Sheriff's department.
(29:11):
Instead of acting stupid, which too often people in public
life Do praised him, saying he put himself on duty
and conducted a legal intervention, thereby bringing an end to
the chase. The story from k t LA.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
He's got those lights and sirens blaring right behind him.
We just saw a black and white squad car off
the freeway directly that he had just passed. Oh okay,
lay white out here. It looked like he was he
had turned around on the motorcycle. I was just getting
(29:51):
ready to push that. It looked like he had spot
himself around on the seat.
Speaker 9 (29:59):
I kind of like, I kind of like to imagine,
you know, what's going on in your mind at that point,
Deputy Andrew Nunez remembered by the San Bernardino Force.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Let's not forget someone died out of all of this.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
We just saw a black and white squad car.
Speaker 10 (30:20):
A murder suspect on a motorcycle flipped onto the freeway
after gunning down this Sam Bernardino Sheriff's deputy.
Speaker 11 (30:28):
Oh okay.
Speaker 10 (30:29):
It started just after twelve thirty this afternoon, when twenty
eight year old Deputy Andrew Nuniez responded to a report
of a man with a gun threatening his girlfriend on
Hollyhock Drive in Francho Cucamonga.
Speaker 11 (30:43):
You're getting what we call a domestic violence involving a
man with a gun. We know we've got to get there,
and I can tell you one hundred percent, the deputy
Nunyas wanted to make sure that he protect the public.
Speaker 10 (30:55):
The responding deputies were fired upon as soon as they
arrived on scene. Deputy Nunyaz shot in the head of
their law enforcement pulled a gravely injured Nunyez away from
the line of fire.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
I saw the officer's body laying there. I knew that
he was gone, but someone came over to give him
CPR compressions, but nothing happened. So I was praying that
when he went into the ambulance they would be able
to revive him.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
He is being pursued and he needs to bring this
to a stop.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
The suspect took off on a motorcycle, triggering a frantic
pursuit on the two ten freeway.
Speaker 11 (31:34):
We got reports live from the helicopter. We're in excess
of one hundred and fifty and even close to sometimes
almost two hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
That pursuit ended with a wild crash shown live on
kt LA. A sheriff's deputy in his own car forced
a coalition with the suspect.
Speaker 11 (31:51):
The off duty deputy sheriff who put himself on duty
and conducted a legal intervention by hitting the suspect on
the motorcycle, visiting the motorcycle to go down.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
The suspect was airlifted from the crash scene in stable
condition and likely will face charges of murder of a
police officer and domestic violences.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Has not for the name, Thank you, and good night.
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