PMShow Hr 2 | RFK Jr. Endorses Trump because the Democrats Need to be Dismantled

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Verie Show is on the air.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
A number of people have asked, why would R F
K Junior endorsed Donald Trump?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's a very good question. I hope.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I hope a lot of Americans are asking themselves the
same question. Why would I vote for Trump? If I
didn't vote for Trump before? Why would I vote for Trump?
If I'm a lifelong Democrat? Why would I vote for
trum Trump? If my parents before me were a Democrat.
This is particularly true in families that were a prominent

(01:12):
Democrat family. This is particularly true of Jews and Blacks.
There's a tradition of being a Democrat being a Democrat
for many Jews and Blacks, and some families who in
a town were prominent. You know that you know that

(01:32):
person was the mayor, and you know this is this
was their party. Being a Democrat becomes part of their identity.
In the same way that if you're a Texas Longhorn,
you went to college and everybody knows, oh, you're going
to meet old or you know you went to Texas Tech.

(01:52):
You're a Red Raider and you're going to meet Gary
Peterson to ask him to invest in your deal. You
need to know that he just sponsored and gave a
lot of money to Texas Tech and Patrick Mahomes flew
in to take pictures with him for the sports facility.
That's a part of Gary Peterson's identity, telling Fritita, part

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of his identity is his support of the University of
Houston Athletics. And there are big donors, whether it's Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, LSU,
Texas A.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
And m And there are.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Folks who that's Matthew McConaughey's UT connection is a big
deal to him. All right, all right, all right, you
didn't see that Covin, did you? Still has changed the
cadence from mom making sure you're paying attention University of

(02:55):
Texas Association affiliation. Fandom is a part of who Matthew
McConaughey is. And so for him to now go root
for their art rival, the Texas A and m aggies
against them, he can't do that. I don't think he

(03:20):
could bring himself to do it. Now, what if the
University of Texas turned in such a direction and affected
his life so dramatically.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
They haven't. I'm just I'm making an example for Robert F.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Kennedy much like as I said, Blacks, Jews, and people
from prominent Democrat families, lifelong Democrat families. This was an
unspeakable bridged across. But he knew that for his country

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he had to do that. He knew it, and I
admire that. I admire it a great deal. And when
he did, did they ever come after him? Magazines within

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the hour posted things like he was a drug dealer
at Harvard when he was eighteen years old. There's this
idiot who's on CNN's They positioned him as a Republican,
just as they did Anna Navarro and Max boot whose
wife turns out to be a spy for China, Jennifer Rubin,

(04:44):
Adam Kinzinger, Liz.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Cheney.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
You get these people, Rick Wilson, who are useful idiots
to the Democrats.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
This is a Republican. That person's not.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
That person wouldn't be allowed in a Republican gathering. His
is a Republican and he doesn't like Trump. Oh, Trump
must really be bad.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Robert F.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Kennedy Junior ran for president as a Democrat, and what
did the Democrats do? He followed the rules. He went
and got the signatures to be on the ballot. They
spent tens of millions of dollars, he says, to keep
him off the ballot. They tried to keep him off
the ballot in Texas, but they couldn't succeed because they

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were cheating. They tried to keep him off the ballot
in Arizona, but they couldn't. They did manage to keep
him off the ballot in New York because, as you know,
New York has become a very corrupt state. That's one
of those cases were brought against Trump there. Trump wants
the pride of that state. They were so he was
the toast of that place. But that was when he

(05:49):
was a Democrat. That's when he was giving them money
to the Democrats. Now that he's not, he's the devil.
He didn't change, you did so for RFK to make
this change, this is a bellweather event. The media won't

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cover it that way. This gives cover to a lot
of people to say, hey, if the son of Robert Kennedy,
who himself ran for president this year, if he can
endorse Trump. And you know why I believe he endorse

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Trump because he understands that the Democrat Party has to
be destroyed to be rebuilt. I don't want a one
party state. I believe in a healthy two party state
with healthy disagreements. That's not what the Democrats have morphed into.
This is not your parents' Democrats anymore. This is not

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his father's Democrat party anymore. His father was prosecuting mafia bosses.
This Democrat party is run by mafia bosses. He has
a vocal dysphonia in his vocal court. It's amazing he

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continues to push through it and speak.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
But here he is.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Explaining why he was dropping out and endorsing Donald.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Trump sixteen months ago.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
In April of twenty twenty three, I launched my campaign
for President of the United States. I began this journey
as a Democrat, the party my father, my uncle, the
party which I pledge my own allegiance to long before I.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Was old enough to vote.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I attended my first Democratic convention at the age of
six in nineteen sixty and back then, the Democrats were
the champions of the Constitution of civil rights. The Democrats
stood against authoritarianism, against censorship, against colonialism, imperialism, and unjust wars.

(08:11):
We were the party of labor, of the working class.
The Democrats were the party of government transparency and the
champion of the environment. Our party was the bulwark against
big money interests and corporate power. True to its name,
it was the party of democracy. As you know, I

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left that party in October because it had departed so
dramatically from the core.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Values that I grew up with.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
It had become the party of war, censorship, corruption, big pharma,
big tech, big egg, and big money.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Tomrey at the ceremony held to honor the thirteen service
members who died serving our country, who were abandoned by
Joe Biden and last person in the room, Kamala Harris,

(09:16):
only one former president, only one person to ever be president,
showed up there to honor them. Joe Biden wasn't there.
Kamala Harris wasn't there. No other former president was there
except Donald Trump. I hope our veterans remember that. So

(09:43):
RFK Junior sat down with doctor Phil. No Ramon wants
me to get into whether doctor Phil is a real doctor.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
That does not.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
That's not the point of our story right now. No,
Jill Biden is not a Jill Biden is not a doctor.
You're correct, Doctor Johnny Fever is not a doctor. You're correct,
and doctor Phil is not a doctor.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
We know this.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
So RFK Junior sat down with doctor Phil and he
explained his reasoning for his campaign. I think this is
very important to hear. This is a longer clip than
we would normally play, so in case you start fading,
or someone cuts off, or you get a phone call.
He says that his research team found that fifty seven

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percent of his voters, if he's not in the race,
would switch to Trump.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
That's enough to swing an election. Here's what he said.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
You crafted a trail in your press conference. You're staying
on the ballad in the red and blue states, in
the swing state. People have said that this could come
down to fifteen counties in eleven different states. Eleven of
those counties and seven states, including where we are right now.
That you said you don't want to be on the

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ballots there. You don't want people to vote for you there.
Do you think you can be the determining factor in
this presidential election because of the positioning. Of course, if
they don't get to two seventy, if they tie it
to sixty nine, whole different ballgame. But if this comes
down to independence in those fifteen counties in those eleven states,

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and you've given your support to the Trump candidacy. Do
you feel like you may very well be the one
that selects the next president of the United States by
your influence.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Well, that's possible. I would have if I had stayed
on the ballot in the swing states. And what I've done,
Phil is we're taking my name the ballots in ten
states that are swing states. We're leaving them my name
on in the red states and the blue states, so
people can vote for me without consequence. You know, they're

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not going to be scared. Oh the bad guy is
going to get elected. You know who's going to get
elected in those states. And so it allows people to
vote for me who want to vote for me, without
any consequence. But well, we recognize from our polling is
that if I stayed in the race, it would have
almost certainly swung the race to Vice President Harris, who

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was trying to throw me off the ballot in all
of these states. Ironically, but I thought that that would
not be a good outcome for her, you know, because
I differ with her on all the issues, on the
issues of war, on the issues of censorship, on the
issues of chronic disease and many many other issues. I

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did not want to give the election. I didn't think
it would be right to give the election to her.
And our bowling from the beginning pretty consistently that if
I got out of the race, fifty of the people
who were supporting me would vote for Trump, and so
me staying in the race would have swung the race,

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very likely could have swung the way to raise Harris.
And so just getting out of the race I think
makes it a fair race between them.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
And then are you double digits to some of these
swing states, Yeah, I am.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
And the fifty percent of those people go to former
President Trump. That's a real boost to him. That's a
real boot.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I think it our you know, our decision or my
decision about what to do, I think is it's much
more likely that President Trump will get elected.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
So you do acknowledge that.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yes, Next is the elephant in the room. You are
Democrat royalty, a scion of Democrat royalty. In we're seeing
a Republican.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
You have enough that you agree with him on priority
wise that you're more comfortable with that than if it
went the other way, even though you've grown up.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Even though I over the Democratic Party, and you know,
I had the same kind of orientation towards abhorrence for
i'd say President Trump as many Democrats, maybe you know,
four years ago, mainly because of his environmental the stances
which you know, I you know, I continue to disagree

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with it. But our conversation, my conversations with President Trump
were very amiable, and I you know, he talked about
starting a unity party about you know, about President Lincoln
and his team of rivals. I could come in and
support him because of these existential issues censorship or chronic

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disease that I feel strongly about it he feels strongly about.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
And that Kamala is on the wrong side.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I thought I could continue to criticize him on issues
where I don't agree with him, and he was very
comfortable with that, and I like that too. I don't
you know, I'm not going to I'm not going to
go sign a lot of the he says, and and
Doris is I those issues and on the border, I'm
with him.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Are you going to actively campaign for President Trump?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yes? I will.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Okay, So I may be sitting here talking to the
one person in this country that is going to pick
the next president of the United States.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
But is possible, that is that is possible?

Speaker 4 (15:44):
It certainly is. I agreed to uh, have you in
the car in forty five minutes. We're at forty four
right now.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
What is more?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
RFK Junior on Fox News that President Trump will be
announcing more Democrats who will be joining his campaign as
a unity team.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
President Trump is going to make a series of announcements
about other Democrats who are joining his campaign. And you know,
I want to make America healthy again.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
And Sota's President Trump. I don't know who Doug he
or Hey or whatever.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
He is described by CNN as a GOP Republican strategist,
but he's one of these guys.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
He hates Trump.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
And these strategists hate Trump because Trump won't give them
money and most of them, like Carl Row, are getting
dirty money from dirty places and Trump won't support it.
And if they can't control Trump, they're out to destroy
Trump because they are the swamp. So listen to what this.

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I mean, this is just nasty what he says on CNN.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
Yeah, I was watching that. And Donald Trump last week
stood and said in front of a bunch of groceries
and said, I haven't seen any cheerios in a long time.
I had cheerios for breakfast. This was cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
And trying to get any logic out of that is
good luck with that, because it's the one you can't
understand what he says. Two, if you can, you can't
understand what he says, and reminded of a line of

(17:29):
in mel Brooks's Blazing Saddles when somebody gets up and
gives an indecipherl speech, he says, who can argue with that?
That's authentic frontier gibberish, And that's exactly what that is.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
He was talking. We cut the audio too short.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
He was talking about Rifk's voice, and he was heavily criticized. Look,
I don't need to feel sorry for somebody, but the
man just broke with his family's tradition in doors President Trump,
And you're supposed to be a Republican strategist and you
insult his voice?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Why because you can't get paid by Trump, you little bitch.
This very show, Michael.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
I did not agree with.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
One hundred percent of RFK Junior's activism, but I think
there are several issues where we can find common ground
we agree, and one of those is the way COVID
was handled, and that stemmed from his background with negative

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experiences in his family with supposed vaccines. Isn't it interesting?
Fauci was hospitalized again last week, this time with West Nile.
So hospitalized not too long ago with COVID. He told
us that the vaccine would mean we wouldn't get it,
we wouldn't transmit it. He got every vaccine in every booster,

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and he's as sick as a dog. This man has
been trying to make vaccines for everything.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Folks.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Vaccines are not a panacea. They do not solve every problem.
And some of what they're trying to put into your
body is not a vaccine and it is not going
to help you. We are over vaccinating our nation. I

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don't care if that sounds kookie. You know, before someone
buys a car, they go to consumer reports, they go online,
they read reviews, they see this, they see that, they
know what they should pay, what features they should get,
what they shouldn't. That's a smart consumer. But before somebody
puts something in their body that could kill them, and

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they go looking for research and discordant views, for views
and all of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
They are a conspiracy theorists.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Anyone who calls you a conspiracy theorist for doing research
about things that are important is trying to sell you
something or is trying to make themselves feel better because
they didn't do the research. So Rfkate has become very

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involved on the issue of our medical establishment and how
we're not treating illness anymore.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
We're doing harm to children.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
We're feeding them terrible foods, and we have a nation
of chronically ill children. Damn it. We ought to care
about that. We ought to agree this is important. Now
we can argue over the solutions. If you say no
more sugar, Sugar's not allowed. Y'all are eating too much sugar. Now.

(20:58):
People need to be able to make their choice. But
if you want to talk through how do we teach people?
How do we share this? I want people Let people
make informed, consent decisions, but give them the information to
do that. This right here where he says the most

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profitable thing today in America is a sick child.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
This is something I am so passionate about and we
don't talk enough about.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
Is it fair to say that you would try to
dismantle some of those organizations.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
No, I wouldn't disapanel them. I would change the focus
and I would end the corruption. Right now, a seventy
five of FDA's budget is coming from pharmaceutical companies. That
is a perverse incentive in NIGE. The if you are
a scientists and officials and niage who work on drug development,

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who may drugs for the pharmaceutical company, get to collegal
lifetime royalties from those products. These are regulators, they're sposed
to be looking problems in that those products. We have
these agencies that have become sog puppets for the industries
they're supposed to regulate, so they're not really interested in
public health.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Everybody.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
The most profitable thing today in America is a sick child.
Everybody is making money. The hospitals are making money, the
pharmaceutical companies are making money. Even the insurance companies make money.
And we need to end those perfers incentives. We need
to get the corruption out of FDA, out of nias,
out of CDC, and make them function as they're supposed

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to function, which is to protect public health and particularly
children's health.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
This concept of a puppet very important. His vice presidential
running mate Nicole Shanahan was on with Adam Carolla and
she called Kamala Harris the ultimate puppet.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
And I think she's right. Why is Kamal hair sort
of dangerous to you?

Speaker 7 (23:01):
I think Kamala Harris is dangerous to me because she
is the ultimate puppet for an organization that has I believe,
since President Obama not actually run real people, they have

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selected amongst a very small group of individuals that they
can control and dictate policy over. I don't think Kamala
Harris is somebody who will sit here and tell you
how she feels. I think that human capacity of hers
has long gone. I think that what she now represents

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is corporatism. She represents a huge amount of cronyism. And
I do believe that she is using messaging. And this
is the part that worries me the most, is that
she uses messaging in a way to get populations of young, unknowing,

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innocent people to join her on these false virtue signal
ambitions and an actually take on policies that will eventually
really hurt them in the future.

Speaker 8 (24:25):
My mother is from Communist China.

Speaker 7 (24:28):
I grew up hearing about what the famine was like
in Communist China.

Speaker 9 (24:32):
Right, Well, she's going to do price controls at supermarkets,
so we don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 8 (24:38):
But that is exactly how you get to a famine.
I mean, this is I know, this is the basics.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
These are the this is communism one oh one.

Speaker 9 (24:47):
Well, I know what I can't figure out is why
don't they know what's going to happen?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Like so when Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 9 (24:55):
Goes, every fast food worker is going to get twenty
dollars an hour in California, so we can we give.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
These people a living wage. And it's like check back
in six months.

Speaker 9 (25:04):
Burger Kings let go through thousand employees, and Dominoes or
Piece of hotss fired all their driver delivery drivers and
then most franchises are moving out. They've cut back the
hours on and they've automated, Like why don't you know
what's going to happen when you implement your utopian ideas, Adam.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
They also want to cut forty percent of water to
Californian farmers.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Have that land go fallow.

Speaker 8 (25:31):
This is not good policy.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Please clap police club. This is such a weird time. No,
not sixty five in the evening.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
What I mean is.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
You're seeing things that you don't normally see that almost
never happen.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
So RFK Junior switching over and endorsing Donald Trump and
his VP running mate Nicole Shannon and saying, this doesn't
mean we vote Republican in the future. At this time,
Trump's the guy we have to have. The Democrat Party
has to be dismantled. It's been taken over.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
By a whacko group.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
This isn't the Bill Clinton Democrat Party, whatever you think
of Clinton. This is the Barack Obama Democrat Party. And
that is very, very, very different and scary. So today
is no, I don't want to get to that yet.
I don't want today yet. So John Stewart on the

(26:41):
Daily Show peopill occasionally disabuild a little credibility. You might
kind of criticize the Democrats a little bit so that
it gives him more thrust, more capital to trash the Republicans.
But here he was after the Democrat convention. And by

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the way, when everyone starts laughing, it's a picture of
Bill Clinton.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
This is this.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
They had a guy yelling screw the billionaires, followed immediately
by a very.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Happy billionaire there.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
That was Pritzker, the governor of Illinois. So he's saying
that Bernie Sanders is saying screw the billionaires. And then
here comes waddling out a billionaire who seems pretty happy
because he's got national ambitions as a Democrat.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
It's all, okay if it's our billionaire. I don't like billionaire,
but you all right?

Speaker 9 (27:53):
Then, Guys making fun of people for going to Yale,
got a bunch of people who went to Yale.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
That many people who prosecuted sexual predators. And and that's.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
A Democrat activist who volunteered at the Democrat convention in
Chicago posted a video to social media about what she
saw at the convention.

Speaker 8 (28:27):
Okay, I'm going to get real in this, and it's
probably going to piss some.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
People off, but I'm okay with that, because if I'm
not being honest, then what else am I doing. I
just got back from the DNC where I signed up
to volunteer, and when I initially had signed up to volunteer,
Joe Biden was still the nominee wasn't yet. Kamala Harris,
I've worked in progressive politics for.

Speaker 8 (28:50):
A long time.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
I have worked for many different Democratic candidates, Senate candidates,
House candidates, even some Democratic organisations, and as the years
have gone by, I found myself getting more and more
disillusioned with the Democratic Party, although until now I've never
said that out loud or anywhere public, And I just

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want to say that by saying this, I'm not necessarily
saying that the other party is better.

Speaker 8 (29:20):
I'm just giving you my experience with working with the Democrats.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
Throughout my career, I've mostly done campaign fundraising, so I've
seen it the way that it works behind the scenes,
and I know that candidates spend eight, nine, ten hours
a day just calling donors and begging rich people for money.
It's pretty much the only people that they talk to.
I mean, of course sometimes they have to talk to voters,
but the majority of their time is just calling and

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begging rich people to give them money for their campaigns.
And what this inevitably means is that we don't actually
live in a democracy. It's just rich people calling the
shots and having the acts to talk to the politicians.

Speaker 8 (30:01):
They're the ones that basically get their ear all day.
They're the ones that.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
Can help shape and prioritize what the politician actually focuses on.
Even the politicians that detest this that want to get
big money out of politics still have to play this game.
They still have to make these calls. They still do
the same amount of just calling rich people and begging

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them for money. And what unfortunately happens once they get
into office, if they get into office, is that they
soon realize that the money machine is so great and
the seduction of power is so immense that they no
longer adhere to these values. When I first got into politics,
I thought that Democrats were the party of the people.

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And at the DNC this week, I felt like I
was in a building with the most elite and out
of touch people in the entire world. It very much
felt like, let's just have a huge and forget all
of our problems because the vibes are brat When I
was there, I didn't feel any connection to real America
or the place that I come from, which is the midwest,

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Kansas City, Kansas and Missouri. I didn't feel any connection
to the people that I know right now who are
struggling to buy their groceries or to pay their rent.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
The people who want to know what both.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Candidates are going to do to materially affect change in
their lives. And when I was there listening to the speeches,
I felt myself feeling mad because I didn't hear anything
about the economy, definitely not in comalist speech and not
very much in the others as well. Instead, I heard

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generic platitudes things like joy and respect and integrity and
what does that even mean? Let's make the military the
most lethal in the world. I thought I was part
of the anti war party. I thought I was part
of the party that fought for the underdog, that campion

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working people with And how did we just become the
party of academia and affluence, because that's what we are
right now.

Speaker 8 (32:12):
How can we ever say that we're going to fight
corporate power or.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
Give a voice back to those communities that have been
left behind when above the delegates on the floor and
levels and levels and rings of suites with donors and corporations,
that we're literally looking down on the people below from above.

Speaker 8 (32:33):
That's what Chris Cuomo said, and he is absolutely right.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
You know, I wait to the DNC this year hoping
that I would feel reconnected to the Democratic Party, that
I would have more of a sense of understanding of
Kamala and her candidacy and what she stood for, but
instead I ended up leaving and feeling the opposite, more
disconnected in alone than ever. And I don't think I

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can support Kamala Harris for president. I don't even know
if I can call myself a Democrat anymore. I don't
know who I'm going to be supporting, but I know
it's not her, And for once, I'm not afraid to
say it.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Why would you be? Isn't it? Isn't it all?

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Did people need to be ashamed or afraid to say
they left a political party? I thought we were voting
to pick the person who would most save our nation,
not to avoid social ostracization.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Or worse. How did this all go so wrong?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
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