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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to the Weekend Podcast. Just a quick note before
we get into it. I really enjoy hearing from you,
and a lot of you have taken me to heart
with that sent me an email, and some of you
are very surprised when I have responded on the Weekend
saying you should be off. You know I should, but
I don't view this as a job. And that's what
(00:22):
it's important to understand. You know a lot of people.
My dad had a job as a maintenance worker at
DuPont in Orange, Texas, and he hated his job. And
he'd tell you he hated his job, and it was
a job. It was performing tasks for somebody else on
their schedule, often that he didn't want to do, for
a lot less money than he wanted, under conditions that
he didn't think were fair, proper, or pleasant. So you
(00:44):
can understand, right, and so, but he had to give
the man some time of his most of his time
in order for us to have a house to live
in and air conditioning to cool it, and cars to
get around and food to eat. So he did it,
and that's for many people what they do. And I
understand that I don't look down on that, don't. I
(01:07):
don't think any less of people. In fact, I admire
people who do that. I quote unquote work very long hours.
But realistically, my work is my life. It's what I
enjoy doing. I love it and interacting with you, answering
your questions, reading references that you send, helping you find
(01:29):
one of our show sponsors because you need something they're offering.
That's fun to me. And I can put my phone
down when I'm eating or when I'm watching a movie
with my wife. But a lot of the time my hobby,
my free time. And maybe this makes me a dork.
Is I enjoy picking up the phone and reading through
the emails, and I don't view it as a chore.
(01:52):
I enjoy hearing from you, I really do. And I
enjoy hearing about your life, what you're going through. People
will email me. I'm sitting here in the in the lobby.
You know, we're probably gonna have to pull the plug
on my mom tonight, but I want to be here.
I'm gonna go back in a few minutes. My brother
and I are, you know, trading off sessions till it's time,
(02:13):
and we're gonna hold her hand and she's gonna breathe
their last breath with us right there beside her. Uh yeah,
thank you for sharing that. You know that that's a
reminder of what people are going through. They're having babies,
they're dying, they're doing everything in between. They're getting married,
they're getting divorced. They're opening a business, they're closing a business.
They're they're getting a job, they just lost a job.
(02:35):
They're dating a girl, they're dating, you know, somebody that
they met online for the first time. This is all
very new. Their grandkids are growing up. I enjoy hearing
from you, I really do. In this two part podcast,
By the way, you can hear I can hear from
you by emailing through our website Michael Berryshow dot com,
m my C H A E L B E R
(02:57):
R Y Show, s h ow dot In this two
part podcast, JD. Vance spoke at a turning Point event
on the campus of Mississippi University last week Old Miss
Lane Kiffin University Right Now. He began with a tribute
to his fallen friend Charlie Kirk, speaking on all the
(03:18):
great things he did for the youth of America. And
he did and it continues to flourish. He planted seeds
whose trees he'll never seek shade under. His legacy continues
to sweep the country and has now spread worldwide. The
influence of Charlie Kirk grows daily. Just this week on
(03:40):
our regular show, we had Lucas Miles, who was a
pastor of tpusafaith dot com, about how your church can
partner with them and they have resources they can provide
for you. And then in the ultimate tribute to Charlie,
the Vice President opened the floor to student questions. In
(04:00):
the beautiful tradition of Charlie Kirk interacting, engaging dialogue, conversation,
it's a beautiful thing. It's rare and unique. It's precious,
it's endangered. He touched on a lot of policies. He's
able to do this, He's able to engage. He's not
afraid of that policy, religion, family life, and there's some
(04:25):
really good stuff here that we hope you'll enjoy that
we have prepared for you.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Wow, that was impressive. They told me that would be impressive,
and they are exactly right. So let me say, let
me say a few words of thank you first to
my dear friend and the widow of my dear friend,
Charlie Kirk. Erica, you have been such an amazing inspiration
to the entire country.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
How much do we love Erica Kirk. She's done a
hell of a job.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I want to thank We have a couple of Mississippi
Senators here. We have both Senator Roger Wicker and Senator
Cindy Hyde Smith. Thank you guys for being here. We
have the Governor of Mississippi with us. We got an
all star crowd here. Governor, thank you for being here.
(05:29):
And most importantly, we have got over ten thousand students
from across Mississippi. We are proud to have you and
we know that you are the future of Charlie Kirk's legacy.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
You know, I got I got this whole speech written,
and I'm not gonna deliver any of what I had written.
I'm just gonna speak from the heart, because that's what
Charlie would.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So often do. And I.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You know, when I think about what we lost six
weeks ago, it feels like forever ago. When I was
in a meeting in the West Wing and one of
my staff members came in and said that Charlie had
been shot. And then I looked at my phone and
I saw all the text messages and realized that my
dear friend had been very seriously injured.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Now in the West Wing.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
At that time, we actually thought that Charlie had a chance.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
We didn't know that he was eventually going to pass away.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
There were initial reports from the medical team that maybe
things were going okay, and of course, eventually Charlie took
his last breath.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And went home to be with his Lord and Savior.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I remember thinking at that moment, first, of course, about
Erica and the children they've got. Their oldest, their daughter
is very similar in age to our youngest child, and
I remember thinking, what a terrible tragedy for that family.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And the second thing that I.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Thought was what a terrible tragedy for the United Slates
States of America. Because Charlie wasn't just a political figure.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
He wasn't just a.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Guy who went around campus and said very interesting things.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And hosted all of these debates.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
He was a person who, particularly to the young people
of this country, to all of you, he had the
very best advice. And I think that's the most important
way for me to honor Charlie, which is to repeat
that advice. Something I found true in my own life.
Charlie wanted all of you, whatever life path you chose,
whatever career you chose, whatever you ultimately did for a living,
(07:33):
Charlie wanted you more than anything to invest in the
things that were worth having, to build a life that
was worth building.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And that started. The most important advice he ever gave
you was fall in love, get married, and start a family.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And I can't honor Charlie without repeating that most important advice. Now,
most of you are probably too young to have found
the person you're going to spend the rest of your
life with. Some of you are lucky enough to have
found that person already, but I will tell you, if
(08:12):
you're as lucky and blessed as I have been, it
hits you like a ton of bricks.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And I have found that person.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
And my lovely wife, Usha, our second lady, who is
here with us today. She's sitting in the audience somewhere,
I don't know where, but I love you, honey, and
have children. That's something Charlie also always told I grew up.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
In a generation. I'm forty one years old. I'm a millennial.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And if you're being uncharitable, you would call me a
geriatric millennial, which I really hate. I really hate being
called a geriatric millennial. But here I am, at forty
one talking to all of you like I've.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Got great wisdom.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Here's the thing, the one regret, the only regret that
I really have in my entire life, and I've made
plenty of mistakes, but the one regret that I have
is that, frankly, I wish we had start having kids sooner,
because when you're a young father, you realize what an
incredible blessing they are, but they're also very exhausting.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And I know here it all miss. We like to
party a lot, and I know.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It'll miss occasionally some of you will have a few
drinks on a Friday or Saturday, or hopefully not a
Tuesday night, but I'm sure that happens from time to
time here in sec country.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
When you go out until three in the morning and
wake up at six am per class, the.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Thing that I've learned in my old age.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Is that incredible energy God actually meant it for another purpose,
and that purpose was to help take care of a family.
So while you're young, have those babies, if you're able to.
That's something Charlie said all the time.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But I think of that advice.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
If you think of that advice, Charlie, I wanted you
to get married. He wanted you to fall in love,
he wanted you to build a family, he wanted you
to find a vocation. That was the advice that he
gave on campuses. But that's not just about you. That's
also about our country and about our government. Because while
you have the freedom to live life as you so choose,
(10:18):
I have got a responsibility as your vice president to
make the American dream as accessible as possible. And this
is why, my friends, this is why we care about
all the things that we care about. Why do I
care so much about having a secure border in the
United States of America. It's because I believe that when
you let in a flood of illegal immigration, what it
(10:40):
does is it drives down the wages of young people
and makes housing unaffordable for the entire American population. That's
why we close down the border. The last will say
our immigration po is about hating immigration, hating immigrants.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
We don't hate anybody.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
We love our fellow citizens, and because we want them
to have the American dream, we shut that border down.
The very first day that Donald J. Trump was the
President of the United States. I care about you being
able to afford a home, which is why we fought
(11:26):
so hard to fix the broken policies of the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I want a lot of you.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I'm sure there are military veterans in this room right now.
I'm sure there are a lot of people who will
join the military in the future.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And we're proud of you.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The most important thing about Charlie is that he was
a great husband and a great father. Erica told me
probably twelve hours after Charlie had been pronounced dead.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
She was just absolutely devastated. She was unable.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
You know, if you've ever known anybody who's grieving, sometimes
is unable. They're unable to even hold a single thought
for more than a few cents sec. And what Erica
told me, and I'm gonna get a little emotional, is
that she said that Charlie never yelled at her, he
never custed her. And that to me is a great
legacy to leave as a husband and a father, for
(12:13):
your wife to be able to say that my husband
was always good to me, and Charlie was a good man,
but he also but he also had the legacy of
believing in political debate, and he was the most effective.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Person in politics that I have ever seen.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And by the way, that's not because Charlie always agreed
with me and the president's policies. I remember one time
in particular where Charlie Kirk called me and guys, he
was mad. It was one, you know, I wouldn't say
the last conversation that I had with him, but it
was in the last few months of his life, and
he called me and he said.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
JD, I'm really worried.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I'm really worried that what's going on in the Middle
East right now is going to lead the United States
into a protracted military conflict.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I've never told anybody.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
That that Charlie was really worried about that in the
final months of his life.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Charlie was so effective and he was so so trusted
by both me and the President of the United States
that when Charlie made that phone call, I didn't say,
screw you, you don't know what you talk about you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I listened to him.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And I really believe that one of the reasons why
the President of the United States knocked out the Iranian
nuclear facilities, but never got the United States into a
protracted military conflict and never lost a single American in
a Middle Eastern conflict. Is because we had the wisdom
(13:49):
and the good sense to recognize that the American people
are done with American troops dying and unnecessary foreign conflicts.
But Charlie Kirk reminded me of that, Charlie Kirk, So
that was a great moment for our country. It was
a great moment for my friendship with Charlie Kirk, because
(14:11):
friendship is not just about telling everybody what they want
to hear.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's not just about agreeing with everybody all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's about having the trust in another human being that
you can tell them they're wrong and actually encourage them
to change their mind, or in that case, not necessarily
even tell us that we were wrong, but make sure
that we were thinking about all the options. And of course,
under the President's leadership, we were doing exactly that.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But Charlie was so good at that, and.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I think that's one of the ways in which I
want all of you to honor your legacy. I'll see
you care about our great nation, or you wouldn't be
here A lot of you will go on to become
future leaders in business.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Or in politics.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
A lot of you will run campaigns, a lot of
you will work on campaigns.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
A lot of you will be future leaders.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
There might even be a law holy future vice president
of the United States in this very room.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But here's but here's.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Here's the thing that I want all of you to remember.
Charlie wasn't effective just because he had opinions. A lot
of people have opinions. Charlie was effective because he was courageous,
because he worked very hard, and because he made his
vision a reality.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And so if you care about this country, as.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I know all of you do, don't just complain about
social media, get up and get involved in a campaign.
If you want a better policy outcome, even from an
administration that you voted for, then get out and get
involved and making your voice heard. If you care about
this country, love it enough to get involved in the
process and how we govern it, that is the only
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way we are going to save the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And that is perhaps the greatest contribution that you can.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Make to Charlie Kirk's legacy, is getting involved in saving
this country. I'm in the fight, and I know every
single one of you are with me. God bless you
and thank you for having me.
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to the Weekend Podcast. Just a quick note before
we get into it. I really enjoy hearing from you,
and a lot of you have taken me to heart
with that sent me an email, and some of you
are very surprised when I have responded on the Weekend
saying you should be off. You know I should, but
I don't view this as a job. And that's what
(00:22):
it's important to understand. You know a lot of people.
My dad had a job as a maintenance worker at
DuPont in Orange, Texas, and he hated his job. And
he'd tell you he hated his job, and it was
a job. It was performing tasks for somebody else on
their schedule, often that he didn't want to do, for
a lot less money than he wanted, under conditions that
he didn't think were fair, proper, or pleasant. So you
(00:44):
can understand, right, and so, but he had to give
the man some time of his most of his time
in order for us to have a house to live
in and air conditioning to cool it, and cars to
get around and food to eat. So he did it,
and that's for many people what they do. And I
understand that I don't look down on that, don't. I
(01:07):
don't think any less of people. In fact, I admire
people who do that. I quote unquote work very long hours.
But realistically, my work is my life. It's what I
enjoy doing. I love it and interacting with you, answering
your questions, reading references that you send, helping you find
(01:29):
one of our show sponsors because you need something they're offering.
That's fun to me. And I can put my phone
down when I'm eating or when I'm watching a movie
with my wife. But a lot of the time my hobby,
my free time. And maybe this makes me a dork.
Is I enjoy picking up the phone and reading through
the emails, and I don't view it as a chore.
(01:52):
I enjoy hearing from you, I really do. And I
enjoy hearing about your life, what you're going through. People
will email me. I'm sitting here in the in the lobby.
You know, we're probably gonna have to pull the plug
on my mom tonight, but I want to be here.
I'm gonna go back in a few minutes. My brother
and I are, you know, trading off sessions till it's time,
(02:13):
and we're gonna hold her hand and she's gonna breathe
their last breath with us right there beside her. Uh yeah,
thank you for sharing that. You know that that's a
reminder of what people are going through. They're having babies,
they're dying, they're doing everything in between. They're getting married,
they're getting divorced. They're opening a business, they're closing a business.
They're they're getting a job, they just lost a job.
(02:35):
They're dating a girl, they're dating, you know, somebody that
they met online for the first time. This is all
very new. Their grandkids are growing up. I enjoy hearing
from you, I really do. In this two part podcast,
By the way, you can hear I can hear from
you by emailing through our website Michael Berryshow dot com,
m my C H A E L B E R
(02:57):
R Y Show, s h ow dot In this two
part podcast, JD. Vance spoke at a turning Point event
on the campus of Mississippi University last week Old Miss
Lane Kiffin University Right Now. He began with a tribute
to his fallen friend Charlie Kirk, speaking on all the
(03:18):
great things he did for the youth of America. And
he did and it continues to flourish. He planted seeds
whose trees he'll never seek shade under. His legacy continues
to sweep the country and has now spread worldwide. The
influence of Charlie Kirk grows daily. Just this week on
(03:40):
our regular show, we had Lucas Miles, who was a
pastor of tpusafaith dot com, about how your church can
partner with them and they have resources they can provide
for you. And then in the ultimate tribute to Charlie,
the Vice President opened the floor to student questions. In
(04:00):
the beautiful tradition of Charlie Kirk interacting, engaging dialogue, conversation,
it's a beautiful thing. It's rare and unique. It's precious,
it's endangered. He touched on a lot of policies. He's
able to do this, He's able to engage. He's not
afraid of that policy, religion, family life, and there's some
(04:25):
really good stuff here that we hope you'll enjoy that
we have prepared for you.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Wow, that was impressive. They told me that would be impressive,
and they are exactly right. So let me say, let
me say a few words of thank you first to
my dear friend and the widow of my dear friend,
Charlie Kirk. Erica, you have been such an amazing inspiration
to the entire country.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
How much do we love Erica Kirk. She's done a
hell of a job.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I want to thank We have a couple of Mississippi
Senators here. We have both Senator Roger Wicker and Senator
Cindy Hyde Smith. Thank you guys for being here. We
have the Governor of Mississippi with us. We got an
all star crowd here. Governor, thank you for being here.
(05:29):
And most importantly, we have got over ten thousand students
from across Mississippi. We are proud to have you and
we know that you are the future of Charlie Kirk's legacy.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
You know, I got I got this whole speech written,
and I'm not gonna deliver any of what I had written.
I'm just gonna speak from the heart, because that's what
Charlie would.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So often do. And I.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You know, when I think about what we lost six
weeks ago, it feels like forever ago. When I was
in a meeting in the West Wing and one of
my staff members came in and said that Charlie had
been shot. And then I looked at my phone and
I saw all the text messages and realized that my
dear friend had been very seriously injured.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Now in the West Wing.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
At that time, we actually thought that Charlie had a chance.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
We didn't know that he was eventually going to pass away.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
There were initial reports from the medical team that maybe
things were going okay, and of course, eventually Charlie took
his last breath.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And went home to be with his Lord and Savior.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I remember thinking at that moment, first, of course, about
Erica and the children they've got. Their oldest, their daughter
is very similar in age to our youngest child, and
I remember thinking, what a terrible tragedy for that family.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And the second thing that I.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Thought was what a terrible tragedy for the United Slates
States of America. Because Charlie wasn't just a political figure.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
He wasn't just a.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Guy who went around campus and said very interesting things.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And hosted all of these debates.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
He was a person who, particularly to the young people
of this country, to all of you, he had the
very best advice. And I think that's the most important
way for me to honor Charlie, which is to repeat
that advice. Something I found true in my own life.
Charlie wanted all of you, whatever life path you chose,
whatever career you chose, whatever you ultimately did for a living,
(07:33):
Charlie wanted you more than anything to invest in the
things that were worth having, to build a life that
was worth building.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And that started. The most important advice he ever gave
you was fall in love, get married, and start a family.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And I can't honor Charlie without repeating that most important advice. Now,
most of you are probably too young to have found
the person you're going to spend the rest of your
life with. Some of you are lucky enough to have
found that person already, but I will tell you, if
(08:12):
you're as lucky and blessed as I have been, it
hits you like a ton of bricks.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And I have found that person.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
And my lovely wife, Usha, our second lady, who is
here with us today. She's sitting in the audience somewhere,
I don't know where, but I love you, honey, and
have children. That's something Charlie also always told I grew up.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
In a generation. I'm forty one years old. I'm a millennial.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And if you're being uncharitable, you would call me a
geriatric millennial, which I really hate. I really hate being
called a geriatric millennial. But here I am, at forty
one talking to all of you like I've.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Got great wisdom.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Here's the thing, the one regret, the only regret that
I really have in my entire life, and I've made
plenty of mistakes, but the one regret that I have
is that, frankly, I wish we had start having kids sooner,
because when you're a young father, you realize what an
incredible blessing they are, but they're also very exhausting.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And I know here it all miss. We like to
party a lot, and I know.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It'll miss occasionally some of you will have a few
drinks on a Friday or Saturday, or hopefully not a
Tuesday night, but I'm sure that happens from time to
time here in sec country.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
When you go out until three in the morning and
wake up at six am per class, the.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Thing that I've learned in my old age.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Is that incredible energy God actually meant it for another purpose,
and that purpose was to help take care of a family.
So while you're young, have those babies, if you're able to.
That's something Charlie said all the time.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But I think of that advice.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
If you think of that advice, Charlie, I wanted you
to get married. He wanted you to fall in love,
he wanted you to build a family, he wanted you
to find a vocation. That was the advice that he
gave on campuses. But that's not just about you. That's
also about our country and about our government. Because while
you have the freedom to live life as you so choose,
(10:18):
I have got a responsibility as your vice president to
make the American dream as accessible as possible. And this
is why, my friends, this is why we care about
all the things that we care about. Why do I
care so much about having a secure border in the
United States of America. It's because I believe that when
you let in a flood of illegal immigration, what it
(10:40):
does is it drives down the wages of young people
and makes housing unaffordable for the entire American population. That's
why we close down the border. The last will say
our immigration po is about hating immigration, hating immigrants.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
We don't hate anybody.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
We love our fellow citizens, and because we want them
to have the American dream, we shut that border down.
The very first day that Donald J. Trump was the
President of the United States. I care about you being
able to afford a home, which is why we fought
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so hard to fix the broken policies of the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I want a lot of you.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I'm sure there are military veterans in this room right now.
I'm sure there are a lot of people who will
join the military in the future.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And we're proud of you.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The most important thing about Charlie is that he was
a great husband and a great father. Erica told me
probably twelve hours after Charlie had been pronounced dead.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
She was just absolutely devastated. She was unable.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
You know, if you've ever known anybody who's grieving, sometimes
is unable. They're unable to even hold a single thought
for more than a few cents sec. And what Erica
told me, and I'm gonna get a little emotional, is
that she said that Charlie never yelled at her, he
never custed her. And that to me is a great
legacy to leave as a husband and a father, for
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your wife to be able to say that my husband
was always good to me, and Charlie was a good man,
but he also but he also had the legacy of
believing in political debate, and he was the most effective.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Person in politics that I have ever seen.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And by the way, that's not because Charlie always agreed
with me and the president's policies. I remember one time
in particular where Charlie Kirk called me and guys, he
was mad. It was one, you know, I wouldn't say
the last conversation that I had with him, but it
was in the last few months of his life, and
he called me and he said.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
JD, I'm really worried.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I'm really worried that what's going on in the Middle
East right now is going to lead the United States
into a protracted military conflict.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I've never told anybody.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
That that Charlie was really worried about that in the
final months of his life.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Charlie was so effective and he was so so trusted
by both me and the President of the United States
that when Charlie made that phone call, I didn't say,
screw you, you don't know what you talk about you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I listened to him.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And I really believe that one of the reasons why
the President of the United States knocked out the Iranian
nuclear facilities, but never got the United States into a
protracted military conflict and never lost a single American in
a Middle Eastern conflict. Is because we had the wisdom
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and the good sense to recognize that the American people
are done with American troops dying and unnecessary foreign conflicts.
But Charlie Kirk reminded me of that, Charlie Kirk, So
that was a great moment for our country. It was
a great moment for my friendship with Charlie Kirk, because
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friendship is not just about telling everybody what they want
to hear.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's not just about agreeing with everybody all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's about having the trust in another human being that
you can tell them they're wrong and actually encourage them
to change their mind, or in that case, not necessarily
even tell us that we were wrong, but make sure
that we were thinking about all the options. And of course,
under the President's leadership, we were doing exactly that.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But Charlie was so good at that, and.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I think that's one of the ways in which I
want all of you to honor your legacy. I'll see
you care about our great nation, or you wouldn't be
here A lot of you will go on to become
future leaders in business.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Or in politics.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
A lot of you will run campaigns, a lot of
you will work on campaigns.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
A lot of you will be future leaders.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
There might even be a law holy future vice president
of the United States in this very room.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But here's but here's.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Here's the thing that I want all of you to remember.
Charlie wasn't effective just because he had opinions. A lot
of people have opinions. Charlie was effective because he was courageous,
because he worked very hard, and because he made his
vision a reality.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And so if you care about this country, as.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I know all of you do, don't just complain about
social media, get up and get involved in a campaign.
If you want a better policy outcome, even from an
administration that you voted for, then get out and get
involved and making your voice heard. If you care about
this country, love it enough to get involved in the
process and how we govern it, that is the only
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way we are going to save the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And that is perhaps the greatest contribution that you can.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Make to Charlie Kirk's legacy, is getting involved in saving
this country. I'm in the fight, and I know every
single one of you are with me. God bless you
and thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
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