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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Michael Arry Joe. What we're going to do next
is actually take some questions.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I remember one of my favorite things about Charlie
not that there aren't going to be some questioners who
agree with me, But if you disagree with me, I
would ask that you come to the front of the line.
Because we want to talk to people we agree with,
we also want to hear from people we disagree with.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It is hard for me to.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
See because the spotlights are very bright, but whoever's in line,
go ahead and ask your question.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh there we go. Okay, now I can see you.
How you doing.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm a sur vice president.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
My name is Lucy and I'm Ellie and we're with
the Turning Point chapter for this question.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Yes, can you tell us how your faith helps you
in your role as vice president?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, I appreciate that that is a very good question.
And if this is another way in which Charlie has
affected my life, I would say that I grew up
again in a generation where even if people had very
deep personal faith, they didn't talk about their faith a
whole lot. And I grew up in a country where
you just didn't hear political leaders talk about their faith.
But the reason why I try to be the best
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husband I can be, the best father I can be.
The reason why I care so much about all the
issues that we're going to talk about is because I
believe that I've been placed in this position for a
brief period of time to do the most amount of
good for God and for the country that I love
so much. And that's the most important way that my
faith influences me is we all get a limited opportunity
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to make a difference. And if you believe as we believe,
you believe the God. You believe that Jesus Christ has
a plan. And sometimes we don't understand that plan. By
the way, one way I don't understand that plan is
why my friend lost his life six weeks ago. Sometimes
I get pissed off about that, But what I remind
myself is that there is a deeper rhythm that Jesus
Christ is the author of the fate of human history,
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and we are charged to do everything that we can
to effectuate that vision, to make our country a more
virtuous place, a more prosperous place where people can raise
a family and not be persecuted for their faith, but
teach their children.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Their faith that recognition that all of us have a duty.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And I have two very important duties as Vice President
the United States, to the American people and to God.
And that's the most important influence my faith has on me.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I understand your view on illegal immigration, as it should
be a top priority strengthening our southern borders and finding
the massive drug trafficking that's taken place while securing jobs
for the working class Americans, also deporting every single person
who's invaded our country illegally, which I one d percent
agree on. My question to you is what is your
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view on legal immigration? Personally, I have a girlfriend who's
studying in America off of visa. Our hope is eventually
getting a green card. So what is your view on
legal immigration should we reduce it? Also, what is your
plan for a merit based system?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yes, sir well, I appreciate the question, And look, my
honest view is that right now America, thanks in part
to the Biden border invasion, but also thanks in part
to a lot of bad immigration policy, right now, we
have led in too many immigrants into the United States
of America. That is just a fundamental reality now. Now, look,
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legal immigration is complicated because we let in about a
million legal immigrants into the United States of America every
single year, and I think the evidence is pretty clear
that a lot of those immigrants are actually undercutting the
wages of American workers. It's one of the reasons why
the President of the United States, it's one of the
reason why the President of the United States and a
lot of us in the administration have encouraged H one
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B reform because if you look at the H one
B visa, what it's supposed to be. What it's supposed
to be is that you have a super genius who's
studying at an American university, who's working at a great company.
You want that super genius is to stay in the
United States of America and not go somewhere else. What
it's actually used to do is hire an accountant at
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a fifty percent discount to an American citizen. I don't
think that we should be hiring accountants from foreign countries
when we've got accountants right here in the United States
that would love to work for a good wage. Now,
you asked about I think your girlfriend, you said, and
I obviously don't know the full details about your situation.
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But my view is, Look, there are people who want
to come to the United States of America, and some
of them, I'm sure, can enrich the United States of
America by coming here. But we have got to get
our overall numbers way way down. Too many people have
come into the United States of America. I am married
to the daughter of immigrants who came to the United
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States in the nineteen eighties. I do believe that some immigrants,
many immigrants, do in fact enrich the United States of America.
But here's the problem. We don't even know how many
illegal aliens we have. We don't even know. The best
guess is probably twenty five thirty million people. I've heard
estimates as high as fifty million. When something like that happens,
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you've got to allow your own society to cohere a
little bit, to build a sense of common identity, for
all the newcomers, to assimilate the ones who are going
to stay, to assimilate into American culture. Until you do that,
you've got to be careful about any additional immigration.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
In my view, Thank you, So you hello.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I have a question about Israel and Trump's policy towards it.
Do you think it's a conflict of interest for Miriam Addelson,
an Israeli donor, to give millions of dollars to his
campaign and then Trump have pro Israeli policies.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well, if you're asking, do I think the prosi of
the United States has a conflict of interests, No, I
do not, because I know how the President States makes
his decisions and I see it behind the scenes. Now,
as the President himself has said, Mary Madelson, who by
the way, I know and I have a very good
relationship with her, she is very clear about the fact
she doesn't hide the fact that she really loves Israel,
and that is part of what motivates her political giving.
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That is a reality. At the same time, the President
of the United States is America first, through and through.
And let me give you just a couple of examples
of this. Number one, we have heard from some pro
Israel voices, some people who really love the state of Israel,
that they don't want us to have a relationship with
certain Middle Eastern countries. Well, the President's attitude is, we
need to build relationships with any country where we have
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shared interests, and he's going to do it if it's
in the interests of the American people, and he's done
exactly that. I am super in bed with Palateer. And
here's the thing I'd say about this. Pallenteer is a
private company. They sometimes do a useful service, and sometimes
they're going to do things that we don't like. You
should be demanding that your representatives do two things when
it comes to palace Tier or when it comes to
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any other technology company. Number One, protecting your data. What's
going on with artificial intelligence is going to mean that
there are massive inducements to seal your data, to harvest it,
and to use it against you to sell digital advertisements.
That is not what I believe in, and I've been
fighting against it, whether it's Palenteer or any other technology company.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Literally before I ran for office.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
When I ran for office, I was criticized by Republicans
in my Republican Senate primary because I was talking then
about Google and Facebook harvesting our data. It's unacceptable. I
don't care who does it, I don't want them to
do it. Number Two, and this is also very important,
what's going on with artificial intelligence.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
We got to be.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Worried about large scale surveillance, Okay, everything when you asked
about palenteer.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Do you know that every time you.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Make a credit card transaction, the credit card companies are
collecting data on how you spend your money. Do you
know that every time you linger over a link on
the for more than a half second, the search engines
are collecting data on you so that they can sell
you advertisements. One of the biggest questions for American policy
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over the next ten years is how to ensure that
you are a sovereign citizen and you cannot be a
sovereign citizen if any private corporation or any government can
steal something from you that belongs to you.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Sir, Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Vice President A. D. Bants good evening, Thank you. Question
is the Republican Party. They stand for the right to
bear arms. A lot of things to Founding Fathers really
made a priority. Sure, and I feel as if requiring
Christianity in public schools goes against the Founding Father's wish
of freedom of religion.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, I guess who is saying that we require Christianity
in public schools.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Just from what I've I've seen on the media and
the news, it seems like the Trump administration had wanted
to make praying in schools and Christian values incorporated.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well, look, I think Christian values are a good thing,
and I'll talk to you about why I think that's
a good thing. But that's separate from forcing people to pray,
which I don't think that anybody, certainly no Christian that
I know, wouldever support or ever endorse. And let me
just say something generally about all the people I see.
There's a big line, and I hope I can get
to everybody's question. I remember when I was a sophomore
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in high school, I went to an event at my
church which was a book signing with Oliver North and
Sean Hannity, the Fox News host. And this was back
before I mean, this was I guess twenty five years ago,
and so neither of.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
These guys was maybe as big as they are today.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And I remember standing in line and I'm about to
say hello to Oliver North and Sean Hannity, and I
remember thinking to.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Myself, I was so nervous.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
All I need to do is shake my hand or
shake their hand, give them a firm handshake, and tell
them my name. That's what I'm thinking, firm handshake, telling
my name, firm handshake, telling my name, and I get
to the front of the line and Sean Hannity looks
at me and he says, how are you doing? And
I totally panic and I go uh JD because I
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had rehearsed, shaken and saying my name. My point is
I admire your guy's courage, and please don't be nervous.
If you need to work through a question, think about it,
speak it. We're all here to have a nice conversation,
and we're all supportive of it.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Here here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
When you talk about forcing me to answer your question,
a forcing Christianity, forcing people to pray, there's a real
there's a liberal idea out there that I think is wrong,
and that's that liberalism is the source of freedom of religion.
And actually, if you go back to the original founding
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documents of the United States of America, if you go
back to the Anglo legal tradition, well before there was
every United States of America, what you find is that
freedom of religion is actually a Christian concept.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And the reason.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And the reason it's a Christian concept is very simple
because Christianity in Mago day, the idea that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
We are all made in the image of our creator.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Means that we must respect the free will of every
single person.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Now, part of that is you have a conversation with people.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Having free will doesn't mean that you're not allowed to
encourage somebody, that you're not allowed to talk to somebody
about your faith, that you're not allowed to talk about
certain values in school. When our founders talked about freedom
of religion, they didn't mean you weren't allowed to say
a Christian prayer in a public school, or that you
weren't allowed to talk about Jesus Christ in a public forum.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
They just meant that nobody could.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Force you to profess the Christian faith that had to
come from your own free will. And I believe that,
and I think every Christian who I've ever spoken to
believes that the source is the Christian The source of
your faith, the Christian understanding, must be your own free will.
But here's the thing about Christian values. There are a
lot of Christian values out there that I think that
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we've just sort of assumed, and we've in fact taken
for granted. Christian values are the idea that you should
respect every single person as an individual, whatever the color
of their skin created in the image of God. That's
a Christian concept. And in fact, it was a Christian
empire Great Britain that abolished slavery to begin with the
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idea that we should eliminate child sacrifice. What do the
Christian settlers find when they came to the New World.
They found a lot of civilizations that were murdering babies
in weird religious rituals. It was Christianity that said, we
don't kill children just because they're somehow inconvenient to people.
A lot of the things human rights, the very idea
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that human beings have rights, are Christian concept. And so
i'd ask you my assumption based on the question is
that you're skeptical of Christianity, or at least of certain
public professions of Christianity.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
One of my favorite Bible verses is by your fruits.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Ye shall know them. And I think that the fruits
of the Christian faith are the most moral, the most just,
and the most prosperous civilization in history. I make no
apologies for believing that Christianity is the pathway to God.
I make no apologies for thinking that Christian values are
an important foundation of this country. But I'm not going
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to force you to believe in anything, because that's not
what God wants, and that's not what I want either,
So go ahead.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
So the school system, do you agree that there should
be Christian implementation or do you think that school system
should be neutral and be focused on science, literature, reading, writing, arithmetic.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, I reject the idea that anything is purely neutral.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Okay, there are for example, let's say, let's take a
basic scientific fact. And this is a little spicy, I'm
not trying to make this too controversial, but take the
basic scientific fact of can you take a pill to
change your biological gender? Okay, now that's something that fifteen
years ago, quite literally every single scientist in the Western
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world would have said absolutely not, that's crazy, and now
people will. I Actually, I think the premise of your question,
I don't totally share it because I don't think perfect
neutrality is possible. What is it you talk about history?
Was Christopher Columbus a great explorer? Or was he a
guy who committed genocide against the native populations? These debates,
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I'm happy to have them, but I reject the idea
that there are truly neutral debates. Anybody who's telling you
their view is neutral likely has an agenda to sell you,
and I'm at least honest about the fact that I
think the Christian foundation of this country is a good thing.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Next, Okay, thank you, and you the pill you're talking about?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
What do you mean specifically?
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Are you talking about estra ten?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, I'm talking about hormone replacement therapy. That's what I'm
talking about. Just to be respectful, let's let's keep it going. Yes,
thank you, have a good night, you too.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Hello, mister Vice President, Thank you so much for giving
this opportunity to talk here today. I did not agree
with many of the things that you said right ahead
of this, but I don't think that's my point to
discuss here. What I want to ask is you are
married to a woman who is not Christian in her Wikipedia.
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I mean, I just looked that up. I wanted to
know what her faith was. I didn't know this before,
but she still calls herself Hindu. You are raising two kids,
three kids, in internal racial, cultural, racial religious household. How
are you maintaining or how are you teaching your kids
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to keep your relagion ahead of their mother's religion, or
how are you teaching them that your kind they're that
kind who got here just a few years or a
few hundred years, a few decades ago, is different or
is better than your mom's kind who got here just
a generation before. How are you balancing that? And when
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you talk about too many immigrants here? What is When
did you guys decide that number? Why did you sell
us a dream? You made us spent our youth, our
wealth in this country and gave us a dream. You
don't owe us anything. We have worked hard for it.
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Then how can you, as a vice president, stand there
and say that we have too many of them now
and we are going to take them out to people
who are here right fully? So by paying the money
that you guys asked us, you gave us the path,
and now how can you stop it and tell us
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we don't belong here anymore? And one more thing, I'm sorry,
one more thing.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Do you have to be out there?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I don't know if I'm gonna remember all this, but
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm sorry I had to say all of this, and
please take it with you. I mean, I'm saying all
of this. I have no intention of causing a seeing
here or anything.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
But we don't worry.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But we talked about Christianity. All of this. I'm not
even Christian, and I'm here standing to so support. Why
are we making Christianity one of the major things that
you have to have in common to be one of
you guys, to saw that I love America just as
you do. Why is that still a question? Why do
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I have to be a Christian?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So there was a lot there, and I'm going to
try to respond to as much of it as I can.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
On the question of immigration, so, first of all, I
can believe that we should have lower immigration levels. But
if the United States passed the law and made a
promise to somebody, the United States of course has to
honor that promise.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Nobody's talking about that.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I'm talking about people who came in in violation of
the laws of the United States of America. And I'm
talking about in the future reducing the number, reducing the
number of people.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Sorry what I.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Continue on that because when you just said, you are
not stopping with the people who came here legally, right,
but you are pushing out policies that hurt us. And
these policies are not even solving the problems. These policies
are just.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Creating their No no, maam okay.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So again, I'm I'm gonna finish answering the question, and
then you know, if I've answered all nine of your
questions in less than fifteen minutes, then we can keep
on going.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
We got to have a little fun, right, So here's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I can believe that the United States should should lower
its levels of immigration in the future while also respecting
that there are people who have come here through immigration
path lawful immigration pathways, that have contributed to the country.
But just because one person or ten people or one
hundred people came in legally and contributed to the United
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States of America, does that mean that we're thereby committed
to let in a million or ten million, or one
hundred million people a year in the future. No, that
that's not right. We cannot have I'll go and finish.
We cannot have an immigration policy where what was good
for the country fifty or sixty years ago binds the
country inevitably for the future. There's too many people who
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want to come to the United States of America. And
my job as Vice president is not to look out
for the interest.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Of the whole world.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's to look out for the people of the United States. Now,
now you asked a personal question about about our interfaith household,
and yes, my wife did not grow up Christian. I
think it's fair to say that she grew up in
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a Hindu family, but not a particularly religious family in
either direction. And in fact, when I met my wife,
we were both I would consider myself an agnostic or
an atheist, and that's what I think she would have
considered herself as well. You know, everybody has to come
to their own arrangement here. The way that we've come
to our arrangement is she's my best friend. We talk
to each other about this stuff. So we decided to
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raise our kids Christian. Our two oldest kids who go
to school, they go to a Christian school. Our eight
year old did his first communion about a year ago.
That's the way that we have come to our arrangement.
But thank you, my eight year old was also very
proud of this first communion.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Thank you, guys. I'll tell the old miss wishes in
the vest.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
But I think everybody has to have this own conversation
when you in a marriage. I mean it's true for
friends of mine who are in Protestant and Catholic marriages.
Friends of mine who are in you know, atheists and
Christian marriages.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You just got to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
The only advice I can give is you just got
to talk to the person that God has put you with,
and you've got to make those decisions as a family unit.
For us, it works out now most Sundays, Usha will
come with me to church, as I've told her, and
I've said publicly, and I'll say now in front of
ten thousand of my closest friends. Do I hope eventually
that she is somehow moved by the same thing that
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I was moved in by church? Yeah, I honestly I
do wish that because I believe in the Christian Gospel,
and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it
the same way. But if she doesn't, then God says
everybody has free will, and so that doesn't cause a
problem for me. That's something you work out with your friends,
with your family, with the person that you love again
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the most, one of the most important Christian principles is
that you respect free will. Usha's closer to the priests
who baptize me than maybe I am. They talk about
this stuff. My attitude is you figure this stuff out
as a family, and you trust in God to have
a plan and you try to follow it as best
as you can. And that's what I try to do.
I want to make a final point, so I don't
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want to cut you off. I want to you're respectful
to all the people behind you on line. But I
want to make this point about immigration. Okay, if you
ask the question what is the exact right number of
immigrants for the United States to let in?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It is just very specific on the context.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
If you go back to the nineteen twenties, the United
States passed an immigration reformat that effectively cut down immigration
to close to zero for forty years in this country.
And what happened over those forty years the many, many
people who had come from many different foreign countries and
different foreign cultures. They assimilated into American culture, and there
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was an expectation that they would assimilate into American culture.
I think we have two problems in our immigration system today.
And my guess is you're probably a slightly more leftist
political persuasion liberal political persuasion.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Maybe not. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I remember back in my establishment GOP days, when I
was still very early getting involved in Republican politics. I
remember a conservative think tank person who told me that
one of the reasons why immigration was really good is
that if you had enough diversity in a country, people
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would mistrust each other and.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
They wouldn't join labor unions.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Okay, So when I see a lot of left wing
people who theoretically support organized labor saying we need to
flood the country with a limitless number of immigrants, they're
unwilling to set any limitations on it. My response to
that is you were destroying the very social trust on
which American freedom and prosperity was built, and that is
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really important to me. So the honest answer to your question,
what is the exact number of immigrants America should accept
in the future right now, the answer is far less
than we've been accepting. We have got to become a
common community again, and you can't do that when you
have such high numbers of immigration, which is one of
the reasons why we have the immigration policy we do.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Next, good evening, Vice President Vance. I just want to
say it's an honor, uh to actually be able to
talk to you here.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
One of my biggest questions is I feel like one
of the biggest problems that America is facing today is
that ever growing social political divide. And we're seeing this
on the Republican and Democratic side, but we've seen that
a refusal to cooperate with the other side has led
to some major issues, including right now the government shutdown,
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and I wonder, as the party empower, what are your
plans to address that issue towards, you know, reaching that
olive branch out to the other side to actually come
to an agreement on how to go forward with our government.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Look, it's a very good question, and let me just
say on the government shutdown in particular, the reality here
is that there's a very simple bill that just reopens
the government.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It does it through pretty much the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That got every single Republican in the House of Representatives
to support it, and then it got fifty two Republicans
in the Senate and three Democrats in the Senate to
support it. But because of weird Senate procedural rules, it
requires a sixty vote threshold. So on that issue in particular,
when you have every single Republican with like two exceptions,
in both houses of Congress, I feel pretty confident.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I know that I'm parties, and I know I have
an R.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Next to my name, but I feel pretty damn good
saying the shutdown is the Democrat's fault because we voted
again and again to open.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Now. But there's a broader question there, and I think.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Most Americans, whatever their political persuasion, would actually like the
country's parties to work together better to solve the problems.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And look, and I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And my approach when I was in the United States
Senate was to try to find some issues where we
could agree with the other side on and try to
work with them on it. And like, let me give
you one example. I'm a really I really worry about
concentration in the corporate sector. I worry about big corporate monopolies.
I worry that when you have only one or two
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companies dominating an entire sector, it's bad for liberty and
it's bad for prosperity. So you may be shocked to
hear this, but I actually worked with Elizabeth Warren on
some anti monopoly stuff when I was in the United
States Senate. But here's the problem. The problem is there
is actually a lot of things where we could work
across the aisle. There are a lot of republic President
Trump is in my view, you haven't seen organized labor
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ever get behind a Republican at least in one hundred years,
like they have behind Donald J.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
There are a lot of areas of common ground on
that question. The problem is as reasonable as some of
these people can be in private in public. The current
obsession of the Democratic Party in leadership. I'm not saying
every Democrat in the country, but the current obsession of
every Democrat in Congress is get President Trump, fight President Trump,
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Attack President Trump. It is impossible for us to work
across the aisle unless a person is willing to put
down their partisan sword, shut the hell up about fake
scandals related to Donald Trump, and actually work with us.
That's the way you make this happen. Next, I'm thank you,
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thank you, next, but I'm trying to get through as
many as possible.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Thank you, Good evening, mister Vice President. Hello, Hi, I
actually drove here all the way from Memphis, Tennessee. Go Tigers,
so I'm sure everyone here is aware of the Memphis
Safe Tax Force that has been in the city for
about a month now, and I checked a little earlier.
(28:05):
As of this morning, I believe they've arrested seventeen hundred
people and seized about three hundred illegal guns. So I
want to ask, how does this law enforcement objective jive
with Attorney General Pambondi's pledge to make the Department of
(28:31):
Justice a more pro Second Amendment department of Justice. Because
I'm sure most people in here support the Second Amendment.
So how can Republicans and this Department of Justice use
the current gun laws that are on the books that
a lot of pro Second Amendment advocates disagree with that
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we wanted to overturn in the Big Beautiful Bill, but
we didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, so I understand the question.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
And by the way, I supported some of those changes
in the Big Beautiful Bill. I know the President of
the United States too. We didn't have the votes to
get them in there, and that's that's as simple as that.
But I know exactly what you're talking about, because there
were a couple of issues in particular.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I talked to some of my Second Amendment friends. But
here's the basic issue.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
We don't want people who have violated the law, who
have committed felonies.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
The Second Amendment, like every other amendment, it's about due process.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's that you don't have your rights violated unless there
is a due process of law. If you're a person
who's committed for felonies and a court has lawfully ordered
that you shouldn't have a gun and you're running around
with a firearm, I don't have any problem with law
enforcement saying you don't get to have that firearm that
is I legally possessed, illegally obtained. I think that's basic
law and order. Now again, if you had, you know,
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if you had somebody come in and say, well, we
don't think that person should have a firearm, but they
haven't violated any law, that's a totally separate question. That's
not what we're focused on. What we're focused on is
violent crime and people who have violated, you know, the
bodily autonomy of another human people, a person who has
committed an act of violence against one of their fellow citizens.
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We're going to clean up the streets, get those people
off the streets, and make America safe for the American citizens. Again,
that is our entire law and order policy, and I
think we're doing a pretty good job at it.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
Thank you, Thank you for the opportunity to speak I'm
a Christian man, and I'm just confused why that there's
this notion that we might have owe Israel something, or
that there are greatest ally or that we have to
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support this multi hundred billion dollar foreign aid package to
Israel to cover this. To quote Charlie Kirk, ethnic Lensing
and Gaza, I'm just confused why this idea has come around,
considering the fact that not only does their religion not
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agree with ours, but also openly supports the prosecution of ours.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, so let me let me say a few things
about this.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
First of all, when the President of the United States
says America first, that means that he pursues the interests
of Americans first.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
That is our entire foreign policy.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Now, that doesn't mean that you're not going to have alliances,
that you're not going to work with other countries from
time to time. And that is what the President believes
is that Israel, sometimes they have similar interests in the
United States, and we're going to work with them in
that case.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Sometimes they don't have similar interests in the United States.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And this example, the most recent gods a peace plan
that all of us have been working on very hard
for the past few weeks. The President of the United
States could only get that piece deal done by actually
being willing to apply leverage to the state of Israel.
So when people say that Israel is some how manipulating
or controlling the president of the United States, they're not
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controlling this president of the United States, which is one
of the reasons why would be able to have some
of the success.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That we've had in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Now you ask about, you know, sort of Jews disagreeing
with Christians.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
On certain religious ideas.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, absolutely, It's one of the realities is that Jews
do not believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Obviously, Christians do believe that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
There are some significant theological disagreements between Christians and Jews.
My attitude is, let's have those conversations, Let's have those
disagreements when we have them, But if there are shared
areas of.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Interest, we ought to be willing to do that too.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
For example, I really care about one thing I really
really care about is the preservation of the Church of
the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem. Christians believe that that is
the site where Jesus Christ was crucified, and also that
his tomb is right there as well. My attitude is
if we can work with our friends in Israel to
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make sure that Christians have safe access to that site,
that's an obvious area of common interest.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I am fine with that.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
What I'm not okay with is any country coming before
the interests of American citizens.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
And it is important for all of us.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Assuming we're American citizens, to put the interest of our
own country first. That's what we're gonna do. That's what
we try to do every single day, I promise you.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (33:27):
Hi, mister Vice President. I'm the president of our pro
life organization here at Ole, miss Rebels for Life, and
I myself, as a president, am one hundred percent pro life.
And I know you've stated you being Catholic that you
in the past, you've stated that you're one hundred percent
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pro life, but since joining the presidential campaign as the VP,
you've kind of wavered how.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
You see abortions.
Speaker 10 (33:58):
So I'm just wondering what your stayding is right now,
and do you think that someone else's right to liberty
trump someone else's right to life.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Well, first of all, I appreciate your question, and I
appreciate the work that you do. You asked the question,
do I think somebody else's right to liberty trump somebody
else's right to life.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
No, No, I do not, in fact, do not believe that.
Now you said, and I'm going.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
To take issue with something you said just the premise
of the question, which is that I've wavered on the
pro life issue. I really do believe that the president
has been the most pro life president in the history
of the United States of America. Now that said, there
are two things that I think we have to keep
in mind here now. One is the very very hard
question of you know, when we talk about our abortion policy,
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there are some very very difficult educations. There are cases
where you've got, you know, an eleven year old girl
who was raped who it would be unsafe for her
to bring the baby to term. You've got situations where
you know, bringing a baby to term would cause serious
bodily harm, maybe maybe death for the mother.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's one of the reasons why.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
We believe in the exception in these cases where you have,
again their edge cases, they're rare. I think the pro
abortion community would have you believe that's ninety percent of abortions.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
That's not true. But we've got to be honest about
the fact that there are some edgucases.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
The second thing I'd say about this is that we
have to be prudential and practical in what can get accomplished.
And there may be disagreements about what exactly that is.
But if you look at the pro life victories that
the President of the United States has been able to achieve,
he's been able to achieve them because he has worked
within the system that we have. If your attitude is
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you are going to pursue the most aggressive pro life option,
even if it means you lose every election and every
outcome means that you're going to be in a situation
where the Democrats have abortion on demand up to the
moment of birth, to the very end. You've got to
work within the political constraints that we have now here here.
Let me just say something about this, and somebody asked
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me earlier about my Christian values, and one of the
points I made is that when the settlers came to
the New World, they found very widespread child sacrifice. I
imagine there are some people who don't agree with my
view on the pro life issue.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Let me just make an observation.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
If you go to historical archaeological sites where there were brothels.
And the two oldest businesses in the world are gambling
in prostitutions, so there were brothels even in very ancient civilizations.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
If you go back to.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Ancient brothels and you dig up the bones of the
women who are working in these places, you will very
often find a lot of children.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Who were buried with them.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And the answer is that whenever a society decides to
discard innocent babies, they also don't treat their women very well.
And whenever a society mistreats its women, it is very
often the babies who come right after that.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
There is a reason why hie.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Christian civilization ended the practice of child sacrifice all over
the world, and it's one of the great accomplishments of
Christian civilizations. I believe that we should try to be
protecting every unborn life.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
There's a question of exactly how we do it, but I.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Would never say that anyone's life, to write to life
should be sacrificed.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Thank you man, your life.
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The Michael Arry Joe. What we're going to do next
is actually take some questions.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I remember one of my favorite things about Charlie
not that there aren't going to be some questioners who
agree with me, But if you disagree with me, I
would ask that you come to the front of the line.
Because we want to talk to people we agree with,
we also want to hear from people we disagree with.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It is hard for me to.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
See because the spotlights are very bright, but whoever's in line,
go ahead and ask your question.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh there we go. Okay, now I can see you.
How you doing.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm a sur vice president.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
My name is Lucy and I'm Ellie and we're with
the Turning Point chapter for this question.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Yes, can you tell us how your faith helps you
in your role as vice president?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, I appreciate that that is a very good question.
And if this is another way in which Charlie has
affected my life, I would say that I grew up
again in a generation where even if people had very
deep personal faith, they didn't talk about their faith a
whole lot. And I grew up in a country where
you just didn't hear political leaders talk about their faith.
But the reason why I try to be the best
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husband I can be, the best father I can be.
The reason why I care so much about all the
issues that we're going to talk about is because I
believe that I've been placed in this position for a
brief period of time to do the most amount of
good for God and for the country that I love
so much. And that's the most important way that my
faith influences me is we all get a limited opportunity
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to make a difference. And if you believe as we believe,
you believe the God. You believe that Jesus Christ has
a plan. And sometimes we don't understand that plan. By
the way, one way I don't understand that plan is
why my friend lost his life six weeks ago. Sometimes
I get pissed off about that, But what I remind
myself is that there is a deeper rhythm that Jesus
Christ is the author of the fate of human history,
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and we are charged to do everything that we can
to effectuate that vision, to make our country a more
virtuous place, a more prosperous place where people can raise
a family and not be persecuted for their faith, but
teach their children.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Their faith that recognition that all of us have a duty.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And I have two very important duties as Vice President
the United States, to the American people and to God.
And that's the most important influence my faith has on me.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I understand your view on illegal immigration, as it should
be a top priority strengthening our southern borders and finding
the massive drug trafficking that's taken place while securing jobs
for the working class Americans, also deporting every single person
who's invaded our country illegally, which I one d percent
agree on. My question to you is what is your
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view on legal immigration? Personally, I have a girlfriend who's
studying in America off of visa. Our hope is eventually
getting a green card. So what is your view on
legal immigration should we reduce it? Also, what is your
plan for a merit based system?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yes, sir well, I appreciate the question, And look, my
honest view is that right now America, thanks in part
to the Biden border invasion, but also thanks in part
to a lot of bad immigration policy, right now, we
have led in too many immigrants into the United States
of America. That is just a fundamental reality now. Now, look,
(03:25):
legal immigration is complicated because we let in about a
million legal immigrants into the United States of America every
single year, and I think the evidence is pretty clear
that a lot of those immigrants are actually undercutting the
wages of American workers. It's one of the reasons why
the President of the United States, it's one of the
reason why the President of the United States and a
lot of us in the administration have encouraged H one
(03:46):
B reform because if you look at the H one
B visa, what it's supposed to be. What it's supposed
to be is that you have a super genius who's
studying at an American university, who's working at a great company.
You want that super genius is to stay in the
United States of America and not go somewhere else. What
it's actually used to do is hire an accountant at
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a fifty percent discount to an American citizen. I don't
think that we should be hiring accountants from foreign countries
when we've got accountants right here in the United States
that would love to work for a good wage. Now,
you asked about I think your girlfriend, you said, and
I obviously don't know the full details about your situation.
(04:30):
But my view is, Look, there are people who want
to come to the United States of America, and some
of them, I'm sure, can enrich the United States of
America by coming here. But we have got to get
our overall numbers way way down. Too many people have
come into the United States of America. I am married
to the daughter of immigrants who came to the United
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States in the nineteen eighties. I do believe that some immigrants,
many immigrants, do in fact enrich the United States of America.
But here's the problem. We don't even know how many
illegal aliens we have. We don't even know. The best
guess is probably twenty five thirty million people. I've heard
estimates as high as fifty million. When something like that happens,
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you've got to allow your own society to cohere a
little bit, to build a sense of common identity, for
all the newcomers, to assimilate the ones who are going
to stay, to assimilate into American culture. Until you do that,
you've got to be careful about any additional immigration.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
In my view, Thank you, So you hello.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I have a question about Israel and Trump's policy towards it.
Do you think it's a conflict of interest for Miriam Addelson,
an Israeli donor, to give millions of dollars to his
campaign and then Trump have pro Israeli policies.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well, if you're asking, do I think the prosi of
the United States has a conflict of interests, No, I
do not, because I know how the President States makes
his decisions and I see it behind the scenes. Now,
as the President himself has said, Mary Madelson, who by
the way, I know and I have a very good
relationship with her, she is very clear about the fact
she doesn't hide the fact that she really loves Israel,
and that is part of what motivates her political giving.
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That is a reality. At the same time, the President
of the United States is America first, through and through.
And let me give you just a couple of examples
of this. Number one, we have heard from some pro
Israel voices, some people who really love the state of Israel,
that they don't want us to have a relationship with
certain Middle Eastern countries. Well, the President's attitude is, we
need to build relationships with any country where we have
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shared interests, and he's going to do it if it's
in the interests of the American people, and he's done
exactly that. I am super in bed with Palateer. And
here's the thing I'd say about this. Pallenteer is a
private company. They sometimes do a useful service, and sometimes
they're going to do things that we don't like. You
should be demanding that your representatives do two things when
it comes to palace Tier or when it comes to
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any other technology company. Number One, protecting your data. What's
going on with artificial intelligence is going to mean that
there are massive inducements to seal your data, to harvest it,
and to use it against you to sell digital advertisements.
That is not what I believe in, and I've been
fighting against it, whether it's Palenteer or any other technology company.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Literally before I ran for office.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
When I ran for office, I was criticized by Republicans
in my Republican Senate primary because I was talking then
about Google and Facebook harvesting our data. It's unacceptable. I
don't care who does it, I don't want them to
do it. Number Two, and this is also very important,
what's going on with artificial intelligence.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
We got to be.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Worried about large scale surveillance, Okay, everything when you asked
about palenteer.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Do you know that every time you.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Make a credit card transaction, the credit card companies are
collecting data on how you spend your money. Do you
know that every time you linger over a link on
the for more than a half second, the search engines
are collecting data on you so that they can sell
you advertisements. One of the biggest questions for American policy
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over the next ten years is how to ensure that
you are a sovereign citizen and you cannot be a
sovereign citizen if any private corporation or any government can
steal something from you that belongs to you.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Sir, Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Vice President A. D. Bants good evening, Thank you. Question
is the Republican Party. They stand for the right to
bear arms. A lot of things to Founding Fathers really
made a priority. Sure, and I feel as if requiring
Christianity in public schools goes against the Founding Father's wish
of freedom of religion.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, I guess who is saying that we require Christianity
in public schools.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Just from what I've I've seen on the media and
the news, it seems like the Trump administration had wanted
to make praying in schools and Christian values incorporated.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well, look, I think Christian values are a good thing,
and I'll talk to you about why I think that's
a good thing. But that's separate from forcing people to pray,
which I don't think that anybody, certainly no Christian that
I know, wouldever support or ever endorse. And let me
just say something generally about all the people I see.
There's a big line, and I hope I can get
to everybody's question. I remember when I was a sophomore
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in high school, I went to an event at my
church which was a book signing with Oliver North and
Sean Hannity, the Fox News host. And this was back
before I mean, this was I guess twenty five years ago,
and so neither of.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
These guys was maybe as big as they are today.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And I remember standing in line and I'm about to
say hello to Oliver North and Sean Hannity, and I
remember thinking to.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Myself, I was so nervous.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
All I need to do is shake my hand or
shake their hand, give them a firm handshake, and tell
them my name. That's what I'm thinking, firm handshake, telling
my name, firm handshake, telling my name, and I get
to the front of the line and Sean Hannity looks
at me and he says, how are you doing? And
I totally panic and I go uh JD because I
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had rehearsed, shaken and saying my name. My point is
I admire your guy's courage, and please don't be nervous.
If you need to work through a question, think about it,
speak it. We're all here to have a nice conversation,
and we're all supportive of it.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Here here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
When you talk about forcing me to answer your question,
a forcing Christianity, forcing people to pray, there's a real
there's a liberal idea out there that I think is wrong,
and that's that liberalism is the source of freedom of religion.
And actually, if you go back to the original founding
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documents of the United States of America, if you go
back to the Anglo legal tradition, well before there was
every United States of America, what you find is that
freedom of religion is actually a Christian concept.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And the reason.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And the reason it's a Christian concept is very simple
because Christianity in Mago day, the idea that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
We are all made in the image of our creator.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Means that we must respect the free will of every
single person.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Now, part of that is you have a conversation with people.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Having free will doesn't mean that you're not allowed to
encourage somebody, that you're not allowed to talk to somebody
about your faith, that you're not allowed to talk about
certain values in school. When our founders talked about freedom
of religion, they didn't mean you weren't allowed to say
a Christian prayer in a public school, or that you
weren't allowed to talk about Jesus Christ in a public forum.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
They just meant that nobody could.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Force you to profess the Christian faith that had to
come from your own free will. And I believe that,
and I think every Christian who I've ever spoken to
believes that the source is the Christian The source of
your faith, the Christian understanding, must be your own free will.
But here's the thing about Christian values. There are a
lot of Christian values out there that I think that
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we've just sort of assumed, and we've in fact taken
for granted. Christian values are the idea that you should
respect every single person as an individual, whatever the color
of their skin created in the image of God. That's
a Christian concept. And in fact, it was a Christian
empire Great Britain that abolished slavery to begin with the
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idea that we should eliminate child sacrifice. What do the
Christian settlers find when they came to the New World.
They found a lot of civilizations that were murdering babies
in weird religious rituals. It was Christianity that said, we
don't kill children just because they're somehow inconvenient to people.
A lot of the things human rights, the very idea
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that human beings have rights, are Christian concept. And so
i'd ask you my assumption based on the question is
that you're skeptical of Christianity, or at least of certain
public professions of Christianity.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
One of my favorite Bible verses is by your fruits.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Ye shall know them. And I think that the fruits
of the Christian faith are the most moral, the most just,
and the most prosperous civilization in history. I make no
apologies for believing that Christianity is the pathway to God.
I make no apologies for thinking that Christian values are
an important foundation of this country. But I'm not going
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to force you to believe in anything, because that's not
what God wants, and that's not what I want either,
So go ahead.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
So the school system, do you agree that there should
be Christian implementation or do you think that school system
should be neutral and be focused on science, literature, reading, writing, arithmetic.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, I reject the idea that anything is purely neutral.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Okay, there are for example, let's say, let's take a
basic scientific fact. And this is a little spicy, I'm
not trying to make this too controversial, but take the
basic scientific fact of can you take a pill to
change your biological gender? Okay, now that's something that fifteen
years ago, quite literally every single scientist in the Western
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world would have said absolutely not, that's crazy, and now
people will. I Actually, I think the premise of your question,
I don't totally share it because I don't think perfect
neutrality is possible. What is it you talk about history?
Was Christopher Columbus a great explorer? Or was he a
guy who committed genocide against the native populations? These debates,
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I'm happy to have them, but I reject the idea
that there are truly neutral debates. Anybody who's telling you
their view is neutral likely has an agenda to sell you,
and I'm at least honest about the fact that I
think the Christian foundation of this country is a good thing.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Next, Okay, thank you, and you the pill you're talking about?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
What do you mean specifically?
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Are you talking about estra ten?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, I'm talking about hormone replacement therapy. That's what I'm
talking about. Just to be respectful, let's let's keep it going. Yes,
thank you, have a good night, you too.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Hello, mister Vice President, Thank you so much for giving
this opportunity to talk here today. I did not agree
with many of the things that you said right ahead
of this, but I don't think that's my point to
discuss here. What I want to ask is you are
married to a woman who is not Christian in her Wikipedia.
(15:37):
I mean, I just looked that up. I wanted to
know what her faith was. I didn't know this before,
but she still calls herself Hindu. You are raising two kids,
three kids, in internal racial, cultural, racial religious household. How
are you maintaining or how are you teaching your kids
(16:00):
to keep your relagion ahead of their mother's religion, or
how are you teaching them that your kind they're that
kind who got here just a few years or a
few hundred years, a few decades ago, is different or
is better than your mom's kind who got here just
a generation before. How are you balancing that? And when
(16:23):
you talk about too many immigrants here? What is When
did you guys decide that number? Why did you sell
us a dream? You made us spent our youth, our
wealth in this country and gave us a dream. You
don't owe us anything. We have worked hard for it.
(16:43):
Then how can you, as a vice president, stand there
and say that we have too many of them now
and we are going to take them out to people
who are here right fully? So by paying the money
that you guys asked us, you gave us the path,
and now how can you stop it and tell us
(17:04):
we don't belong here anymore? And one more thing, I'm sorry,
one more thing.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Do you have to be out there?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I don't know if I'm gonna remember all this, but
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm sorry I had to say all of this, and
please take it with you. I mean, I'm saying all
of this. I have no intention of causing a seeing
here or anything.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
But we don't worry.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But we talked about Christianity. All of this. I'm not
even Christian, and I'm here standing to so support. Why
are we making Christianity one of the major things that
you have to have in common to be one of
you guys, to saw that I love America just as
you do. Why is that still a question? Why do
(17:48):
I have to be a Christian?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So there was a lot there, and I'm going to
try to respond to as much of it as I can.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
On the question of immigration, so, first of all, I
can believe that we should have lower immigration levels. But
if the United States passed the law and made a
promise to somebody, the United States of course has to
honor that promise.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Nobody's talking about that.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I'm talking about people who came in in violation of
the laws of the United States of America. And I'm
talking about in the future reducing the number, reducing the
number of people.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Sorry what I.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Continue on that because when you just said, you are
not stopping with the people who came here legally, right,
but you are pushing out policies that hurt us. And
these policies are not even solving the problems. These policies
are just.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Creating their No no, maam okay.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So again, I'm I'm gonna finish answering the question, and
then you know, if I've answered all nine of your
questions in less than fifteen minutes, then we can keep
on going.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
We got to have a little fun, right, So here's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I can believe that the United States should should lower
its levels of immigration in the future while also respecting
that there are people who have come here through immigration
path lawful immigration pathways, that have contributed to the country.
But just because one person or ten people or one
hundred people came in legally and contributed to the United
(19:25):
States of America, does that mean that we're thereby committed
to let in a million or ten million, or one
hundred million people a year in the future. No, that
that's not right. We cannot have I'll go and finish.
We cannot have an immigration policy where what was good
for the country fifty or sixty years ago binds the
country inevitably for the future. There's too many people who
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want to come to the United States of America. And
my job as Vice president is not to look out
for the interest.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Of the whole world.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's to look out for the people of the United States. Now,
now you asked a personal question about about our interfaith household,
and yes, my wife did not grow up Christian. I
think it's fair to say that she grew up in
(20:13):
a Hindu family, but not a particularly religious family in
either direction. And in fact, when I met my wife,
we were both I would consider myself an agnostic or
an atheist, and that's what I think she would have
considered herself as well. You know, everybody has to come
to their own arrangement here. The way that we've come
to our arrangement is she's my best friend. We talk
to each other about this stuff. So we decided to
(20:34):
raise our kids Christian. Our two oldest kids who go
to school, they go to a Christian school. Our eight
year old did his first communion about a year ago.
That's the way that we have come to our arrangement.
But thank you, my eight year old was also very
proud of this first communion.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Thank you, guys. I'll tell the old miss wishes in
the vest.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
But I think everybody has to have this own conversation
when you in a marriage. I mean it's true for
friends of mine who are in Protestant and Catholic marriages.
Friends of mine who are in you know, atheists and
Christian marriages.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You just got to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
The only advice I can give is you just got
to talk to the person that God has put you with,
and you've got to make those decisions as a family unit.
For us, it works out now most Sundays, Usha will
come with me to church, as I've told her, and
I've said publicly, and I'll say now in front of
ten thousand of my closest friends. Do I hope eventually
that she is somehow moved by the same thing that
(21:31):
I was moved in by church? Yeah, I honestly I
do wish that because I believe in the Christian Gospel,
and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it
the same way. But if she doesn't, then God says
everybody has free will, and so that doesn't cause a
problem for me. That's something you work out with your friends,
with your family, with the person that you love again
(21:52):
the most, one of the most important Christian principles is
that you respect free will. Usha's closer to the priests
who baptize me than maybe I am. They talk about
this stuff. My attitude is you figure this stuff out
as a family, and you trust in God to have
a plan and you try to follow it as best
as you can. And that's what I try to do.
I want to make a final point, so I don't
(22:16):
want to cut you off. I want to you're respectful
to all the people behind you on line. But I
want to make this point about immigration. Okay, if you
ask the question what is the exact right number of
immigrants for the United States to let in?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It is just very specific on the context.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
If you go back to the nineteen twenties, the United
States passed an immigration reformat that effectively cut down immigration
to close to zero for forty years in this country.
And what happened over those forty years the many, many
people who had come from many different foreign countries and
different foreign cultures. They assimilated into American culture, and there
(22:51):
was an expectation that they would assimilate into American culture.
I think we have two problems in our immigration system today.
And my guess is you're probably a slightly more leftist
political persuasion liberal political persuasion.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Maybe not. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I remember back in my establishment GOP days, when I
was still very early getting involved in Republican politics. I
remember a conservative think tank person who told me that
one of the reasons why immigration was really good is
that if you had enough diversity in a country, people
(23:26):
would mistrust each other and.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
They wouldn't join labor unions.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Okay, So when I see a lot of left wing
people who theoretically support organized labor saying we need to
flood the country with a limitless number of immigrants, they're
unwilling to set any limitations on it. My response to
that is you were destroying the very social trust on
which American freedom and prosperity was built, and that is
(23:50):
really important to me. So the honest answer to your question,
what is the exact number of immigrants America should accept
in the future right now, the answer is far less
than we've been accepting. We have got to become a
common community again, and you can't do that when you
have such high numbers of immigration, which is one of
the reasons why we have the immigration policy we do.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Next, good evening, Vice President Vance. I just want to
say it's an honor, uh to actually be able to
talk to you here.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
One of my biggest questions is I feel like one
of the biggest problems that America is facing today is
that ever growing social political divide. And we're seeing this
on the Republican and Democratic side, but we've seen that
a refusal to cooperate with the other side has led
to some major issues, including right now the government shutdown,
(24:50):
and I wonder, as the party empower, what are your
plans to address that issue towards, you know, reaching that
olive branch out to the other side to actually come
to an agreement on how to go forward with our government.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Look, it's a very good question, and let me just
say on the government shutdown in particular, the reality here
is that there's a very simple bill that just reopens
the government.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It does it through pretty much the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That got every single Republican in the House of Representatives
to support it, and then it got fifty two Republicans
in the Senate and three Democrats in the Senate to
support it. But because of weird Senate procedural rules, it
requires a sixty vote threshold. So on that issue in particular,
when you have every single Republican with like two exceptions,
in both houses of Congress, I feel pretty confident.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I know that I'm parties, and I know I have
an R.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Next to my name, but I feel pretty damn good
saying the shutdown is the Democrat's fault because we voted
again and again to open.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Now. But there's a broader question there, and I think.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Most Americans, whatever their political persuasion, would actually like the
country's parties to work together better to solve the problems.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And look, and I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And my approach when I was in the United States
Senate was to try to find some issues where we
could agree with the other side on and try to
work with them on it. And like, let me give
you one example. I'm a really I really worry about
concentration in the corporate sector. I worry about big corporate monopolies.
I worry that when you have only one or two
(26:24):
companies dominating an entire sector, it's bad for liberty and
it's bad for prosperity. So you may be shocked to
hear this, but I actually worked with Elizabeth Warren on
some anti monopoly stuff when I was in the United
States Senate. But here's the problem. The problem is there
is actually a lot of things where we could work
across the aisle. There are a lot of republic President
Trump is in my view, you haven't seen organized labor
(26:49):
ever get behind a Republican at least in one hundred years,
like they have behind Donald J.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
There are a lot of areas of common ground on
that question. The problem is as reasonable as some of
these people can be in private in public. The current
obsession of the Democratic Party in leadership. I'm not saying
every Democrat in the country, but the current obsession of
every Democrat in Congress is get President Trump, fight President Trump,
(27:15):
Attack President Trump. It is impossible for us to work
across the aisle unless a person is willing to put
down their partisan sword, shut the hell up about fake
scandals related to Donald Trump, and actually work with us.
That's the way you make this happen. Next, I'm thank you,
(27:38):
thank you, next, but I'm trying to get through as
many as possible.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Thank you, Good evening, mister Vice President. Hello, Hi, I
actually drove here all the way from Memphis, Tennessee. Go Tigers,
so I'm sure everyone here is aware of the Memphis
Safe Tax Force that has been in the city for
about a month now, and I checked a little earlier.
(28:05):
As of this morning, I believe they've arrested seventeen hundred
people and seized about three hundred illegal guns. So I
want to ask, how does this law enforcement objective jive
with Attorney General Pambondi's pledge to make the Department of
(28:31):
Justice a more pro Second Amendment department of Justice. Because
I'm sure most people in here support the Second Amendment.
So how can Republicans and this Department of Justice use
the current gun laws that are on the books that
a lot of pro Second Amendment advocates disagree with that
(28:54):
we wanted to overturn in the Big Beautiful Bill, but
we didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, so I understand the question.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
And by the way, I supported some of those changes
in the Big Beautiful Bill. I know the President of
the United States too. We didn't have the votes to
get them in there, and that's that's as simple as that.
But I know exactly what you're talking about, because there
were a couple of issues in particular.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I talked to some of my Second Amendment friends. But
here's the basic issue.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
We don't want people who have violated the law, who
have committed felonies.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
The Second Amendment, like every other amendment, it's about due process.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It's that you don't have your rights violated unless there
is a due process of law. If you're a person
who's committed for felonies and a court has lawfully ordered
that you shouldn't have a gun and you're running around
with a firearm, I don't have any problem with law
enforcement saying you don't get to have that firearm that
is I legally possessed, illegally obtained. I think that's basic
law and order. Now again, if you had, you know,
(29:48):
if you had somebody come in and say, well, we
don't think that person should have a firearm, but they
haven't violated any law, that's a totally separate question. That's
not what we're focused on. What we're focused on is
violent crime and people who have violated, you know, the
bodily autonomy of another human people, a person who has
committed an act of violence against one of their fellow citizens.
(30:09):
We're going to clean up the streets, get those people
off the streets, and make America safe for the American citizens. Again,
that is our entire law and order policy, and I
think we're doing a pretty good job at it.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
Thank you, Thank you for the opportunity to speak I'm
a Christian man, and I'm just confused why that there's
this notion that we might have owe Israel something, or
that there are greatest ally or that we have to
(30:42):
support this multi hundred billion dollar foreign aid package to
Israel to cover this. To quote Charlie Kirk, ethnic Lensing
and Gaza, I'm just confused why this idea has come around,
considering the fact that not only does their religion not
(31:02):
agree with ours, but also openly supports the prosecution of ours.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, so let me let me say a few things
about this.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
First of all, when the President of the United States
says America first, that means that he pursues the interests
of Americans first.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
That is our entire foreign policy.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Now, that doesn't mean that you're not going to have alliances,
that you're not going to work with other countries from
time to time. And that is what the President believes
is that Israel, sometimes they have similar interests in the
United States, and we're going to work with them in
that case.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Sometimes they don't have similar interests in the United States.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And this example, the most recent gods a peace plan
that all of us have been working on very hard
for the past few weeks. The President of the United
States could only get that piece deal done by actually
being willing to apply leverage to the state of Israel.
So when people say that Israel is some how manipulating
or controlling the president of the United States, they're not
(32:04):
controlling this president of the United States, which is one
of the reasons why would be able to have some
of the success.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That we've had in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Now you ask about, you know, sort of Jews disagreeing
with Christians.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
On certain religious ideas.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, absolutely, It's one of the realities is that Jews
do not believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Obviously, Christians do believe that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
There are some significant theological disagreements between Christians and Jews.
My attitude is, let's have those conversations, Let's have those
disagreements when we have them, But if there are shared
areas of.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Interest, we ought to be willing to do that too.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
For example, I really care about one thing I really
really care about is the preservation of the Church of
the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem. Christians believe that that is
the site where Jesus Christ was crucified, and also that
his tomb is right there as well. My attitude is
if we can work with our friends in Israel to
(32:58):
make sure that Christians have safe access to that site,
that's an obvious area of common interest.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I am fine with that.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
What I'm not okay with is any country coming before
the interests of American citizens.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
And it is important for all of us.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Assuming we're American citizens, to put the interest of our
own country first. That's what we're gonna do. That's what
we try to do every single day, I promise you.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (33:27):
Hi, mister Vice President. I'm the president of our pro
life organization here at Ole, miss Rebels for Life, and
I myself, as a president, am one hundred percent pro life.
And I know you've stated you being Catholic that you
in the past, you've stated that you're one hundred percent
(33:49):
pro life, but since joining the presidential campaign as the VP,
you've kind of wavered how.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
You see abortions.
Speaker 10 (33:58):
So I'm just wondering what your stayding is right now,
and do you think that someone else's right to liberty
trump someone else's right to life.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Well, first of all, I appreciate your question, and I
appreciate the work that you do. You asked the question,
do I think somebody else's right to liberty trump somebody
else's right to life.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
No, No, I do not, in fact, do not believe that.
Now you said, and I'm going.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
To take issue with something you said just the premise
of the question, which is that I've wavered on the
pro life issue. I really do believe that the president
has been the most pro life president in the history
of the United States of America. Now that said, there
are two things that I think we have to keep
in mind here now. One is the very very hard
question of you know, when we talk about our abortion policy,
(34:45):
there are some very very difficult educations. There are cases
where you've got, you know, an eleven year old girl
who was raped who it would be unsafe for her
to bring the baby to term. You've got situations where
you know, bringing a baby to term would cause serious
bodily harm, maybe maybe death for the mother.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's one of the reasons why.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
We believe in the exception in these cases where you have,
again their edge cases, they're rare. I think the pro
abortion community would have you believe that's ninety percent of abortions.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
That's not true. But we've got to be honest about
the fact that there are some edgucases.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
The second thing I'd say about this is that we
have to be prudential and practical in what can get accomplished.
And there may be disagreements about what exactly that is.
But if you look at the pro life victories that
the President of the United States has been able to achieve,
he's been able to achieve them because he has worked
within the system that we have. If your attitude is
(35:37):
you are going to pursue the most aggressive pro life option,
even if it means you lose every election and every
outcome means that you're going to be in a situation
where the Democrats have abortion on demand up to the
moment of birth, to the very end. You've got to
work within the political constraints that we have now here here.
Let me just say something about this, and somebody asked
(36:00):
me earlier about my Christian values, and one of the
points I made is that when the settlers came to
the New World, they found very widespread child sacrifice. I
imagine there are some people who don't agree with my
view on the pro life issue.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Let me just make an observation.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
If you go to historical archaeological sites where there were brothels.
And the two oldest businesses in the world are gambling
in prostitutions, so there were brothels even in very ancient civilizations.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
If you go back to.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Ancient brothels and you dig up the bones of the
women who are working in these places, you will very
often find a lot of children.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Who were buried with them.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And the answer is that whenever a society decides to
discard innocent babies, they also don't treat their women very well.
And whenever a society mistreats its women, it is very
often the babies who come right after that.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
There is a reason why hie.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Christian civilization ended the practice of child sacrifice all over
the world, and it's one of the great accomplishments of
Christian civilizations. I believe that we should try to be
protecting every unborn life.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
There's a question of exactly how we do it, but I.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Would never say that anyone's life, to write to life
should be sacrificed.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Thank you man, your life.
Speaker 11 (37:26):
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