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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Michael Larry Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hello, God, bless all of you for coming here from
all over the world.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
To honor and celebrate my Charlie.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Just a few miles from here.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Two years ago, at America Fest twenty twenty three, Charlie
delivered a speech on stage for our TPUSA Faith event.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Charlie loves speaking off the cuff.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
He's very good at that without a script, so I
personally didn't know what he was going to say, and
what he chose to speak about that day was his
submission to the will of God. He quoted one of
his favorite Bible verses, Isaiah chapter six, verse eight, Here

(01:13):
I am Lord, send me.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
After Charlie finished, I met him.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Backstage and I spoke to him, and I'll never forget this.
I said, Charlie, baby, please talk to me next time
before you say that statement, because when you say something like.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
That, there is so much power in that verse. When
you say, here, I am Lord, use me.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
God will take you up on that, and he did
with Charlie.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Eleven days ago. God accepted that total surrender from my
husband and then called him to his side.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
More than anything, Charlie wanted to do, not his will,
but God's will, and over these past eleven days, through
all the pain, never before have I found as much
comfort as I now do in the words of our
Lord's prayer.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Thy will be done.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
God's love was revealed to me on the very day
my husband was murdered. On the afternoon of September tenth,
I arrived at a Utah hospital to do the unthinkable,
to look directly at my husband's murdered body. I saw

(03:19):
the wound that ended his life. I felt everything you
would expect to feel. I felt shock, I felt horror,
and a level of heartache that I didn't even know existed.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
But there was something else too.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Even in death, I could see the man that I love.
I saw the one single gray hair on the side
of his head, which I never told him about. Now
he knows, sorry, baby, telling you now, but never told him.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Didn't want to. I also saw this. I also saw
on his lips.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
The faintest smile, and that told me something important. It
revealed to me a great mercy from God in this tragedy.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
When I saw that, it told me Charlie didn't suffer.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Even the doctor told me it was something so instant
that even even if Charlie had been shot in the
operating room. It's itself.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Nothing could have been done.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
There was no fame, there was no fear, no agony.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
One moment, Charlie was doing what he loved, arguing and
debating on campus.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Fighting for the Gospel.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
And truth.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
In front of a big crowd, and then he blinked.
He blinked and saw his Savior in paradise.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
And all the heavenly mysteries were revealed to him.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
God's love continued to be revealed to me in the
days that followed.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
The next day, on the tarmac and air Force to
I confronted Usha Van's precious woman.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I held her.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Hand and I told her, honestly, I do not know
how I am going to get through this.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
She told me something.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
She said, you know, when you're on an airplane with
your kids and it's the last fifteen minutes of the
flight and things are crazy, kids are not cooperating, tours
are flying everywhere, and everyone's screaming, and you think to yourself,
I cannot wait for this flight to land, and it's

(06:42):
fifteen minutes before you land.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
And she told me, you will.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Get through these fifteen minutes. In the next fifteen minutes
after that.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Usha.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I don't think you realized it then, but those words
were exactly what I needed to hear. But most of all,
God's mercy and God's love have been revealed to me
these past ten days after Charlie's assassination. We didn't see violence,

(07:19):
we didn't see rioting, we didn't see revolution. Instead, we
saw what my husband always prayed he would see in

(07:42):
this country.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
We saw revival. This past week. We saw people.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Open a Bible for the first time in a decade.
We saw people pray for the first time since they
were children.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
We saw people go to a church service for the
first time in their entire lives. Charlie liked to.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Journal, and I say this because he did it to
remember important moments in sayings that affected him. And one
of the things he wrote in his journal was this,
every time you make.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
A decision, it puts a mark on your soul.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
To those of you out there who just made that
decision and took the first step toward a spear rual life,
I say thank you and welcome. One day, I hope

(09:15):
you look back and realize it was the most important
decision of your life.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Because it is all of you.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
All of you who are already believers. It is your
job to shepherd these people. Do not take that lightly.
Water the seed of their faith, protect it, and help
it grow. Every day as Charlie rode into the office,

(09:51):
he would go through his contact list, and I know
there's many of you who were impacted by this. He
would go through his contact list and said, Byible verses.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
For the day.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
He knew that faith was a habit. The more you
live it, the more it grows. But know this too,
the seed has only just been planted. The enemy will
tempt you the most in a time.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Like this one.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
God will always be there for you, but you must
choose to mark your soul again and again in the
direction of Christ. Pray again, read the Bible again, go

(10:49):
to church next Sunday and the Sunday after that, and
break free from the temptations and shackles of this world.
Being a follower of Christ is not easy.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
It's not supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Jesus said, if anyone would come after me, let him
deny himself, take up his cross and follow me.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
He said he would be persecuted. He said, we would
be persecuted.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
And Charlie knew that unhappily carried his cross all the
way to the end.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
And I want all of you to know, while Charlie
died far too early, he.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Was also ready to die. There was nothing, nothing he
was putting off. There was nothing that was too hard
or too painful, or nothing that he just felt like
he didn't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
He left this world without regrets. He did one hundred
percent of what he could every day. But I want
you to know something.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Charlie died with incomplete work, but not.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
With unfinished business.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
But I will miss him. I will miss him so
much because our marriage and our family were beautiful.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
They still are.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
The greatest cause in Charlie's life was trying to revive
the American family. When he spoke to young people, he
was always eager to tell them about God's vision for
marriage and how if they could just dare to live
it out, it would enrich every part of their life
in the same way that it enriched ours. And someone

(13:16):
once asked me how Charlie and I that.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
We kept our marriage so strong when he was busy traveling.
In our little secret, it was love notes.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Every Saturday, Charlie wrote one for me, and he never
missed a Saturday and in every single one of them,
he'd tell me what his highlight.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Was for the week, how grateful he was for me
and our babies.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
And always at the end, he would always end it
with asking the most beautiful question. He'd always end it
by asking, please let me know how I can better
serve you as a husband. Charlie perfectly understood God's role

(14:17):
for a Christian husband, a.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Man who leads so that they can.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Serve to all the men watching around the world. Accept
Charlie's challenge and embrace true manhood. Be strong and courageous

(14:53):
for your families. Love your wives and lead them, Love
your children and protect them. Be the spiritual head of
your home. But please be a leader worth following your wife.

(15:28):
Your wife is not your servant. Your wife is not
your employee. Your wife is not your slave. She is
your helper. You are not rivals. You are one flesh
working together for the glory of God.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I was Charlie's confidant.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
I was his volt, his closest and most trusted adviser,
his best friend. I poured into him and loved him
so deeply, empowered him.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Because his love for me drove me to be a
better wife.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Every day he honored me, and I prayed that I
could be the wife that God needed me to be
for my husband. Women, I have a challenge for you too,
be virtuous. Our strength is found in God's design for
our role. We are the guardians, We are the encouragers,

(16:53):
we are the preservers.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Guard your heart. Everything you do flows from it.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
And if you're a mother, please recognize that is the
single most important ministry you have.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
In our home.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Because Charlie traveled a lot, we tried to travel with
him when we could, but I made sure that when
Charlie returned from work, it was his sacred landing place.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Away from the worries of the world. I didn't make him.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Feel guilty for being away too long or too much,
or getting home too late. I always told him home
is here for you, and it'll be ready for you.
And I made it into this place where he wanted
to be as soon as possible.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
When he was on the road. There was no keeping
score between us. We were a.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Team working together for the same mission. I never wanted
to be the one standing between Charlie and the task
that God prepared for him, had set for him, and
I knew Charlie would always do his best to help

(18:36):
me with the same. My marriage with Charlie was the
best thing that ever happened to me, and I know
it was the best thing that ever happened to him
as well. He wanted everyone to experience that joy. And
that's what's so beautiful about God's design for marriage is

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that everyone can. And I could talk endlessly about it
in years to come I will. But Charlie's mission, above
all was aimed directly at those who aren't married. He
named his organization well. He knew things were not right

(19:20):
with America, and especially with young people, and they.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Needed a new direction.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Charlie passionately wanted to reach and save the lost boys
of the West, the young men who feel like they
have no direction, no purpose, no faith, and no reason
to live. The men wasting their lives on distractions, and
the men consumed with resentment, anger and hate. Charlie wanted

(19:53):
to help them. He wanted them to have a home
with Turning Point, USA, and when he went on to campus,
he was looking to show them a better path.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
And a better life that was right there for the taking.
He wanted to show them that.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
My husband, Charlie, he wanted to save young men, just
like the one who took his life, that young man,

(20:52):
that young man on the cross, Our Savior said, Father,
forgive them.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
For they not know what they do.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
That man.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Back yond man, I forgive him.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I forgive him because it was what Christ did and
is what Charlie would do.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
The answer to hate is not hate. The answer we
know from the Gospel is love and always love. Love
for our enemies, and love for those who persecute us.
The world needs Turning Point USA.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
It needs a.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Group that will point young people away from the path
of misery and sin. It needs something that will lead
people away from hell in this world and in the next.
It needs young people pointed in the direction of truth
and beauty. And so I promise you today every part

(22:59):
of our work will become greater. I am tremendously honored
to be the new CEO of Turning Point USA.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I do not take that lightly. Charlie and I were
united in purpose.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
His passion was my passion, and now his mission is
my mission. Everything that Turning Point USA built through Charlie's
vision in hard work, we will make ten times greater.
Through the power of his memory, chapters.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Will grow thousands of new ones will be created.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
TPUSA Faith will add thousands of new pastors and congregations.
And yes, campus events will continue, and we will continue
to hold debates and dialogue. The First Amendment of our

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Constitution is the most human amendment. We are naturally talking beings,
naturally believing beings, and the First Amendment protects our right
to do both. No assassin will ever stop us for
standing up to defend those rights, ever, because when you

(24:58):
stop the conversation, when you stop the dialogue, this is
what happens. When we lose the ability and the willingness
to communicate, we get violence.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
And as I stand here now and I look at this.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Beautiful photo of my husband in front of me, hanging
in the stadium.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I think of my husband thirteen years ago.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
I hadn't met him yet.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
He was eighteen years old, a man barely out of
high school, running around the halls of the RNC without
a dollar in his pocket and a single contact in
his phone. People who saw him said that he didn't
know what he was doing, but he did. He did

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know what he was doing. He knew exactly what he
was doing. He was going to change the world, and
he did Charlie's life was a turning point for this country.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
It was a miracle. Let that miracle, it was Charlie's
life be your turning point as well.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Choose prayer, Choose courage, Choose beauty, Choose adventure, choose family,
Choose a life of faith. Most importantly, choose Christ. I

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love you, Charlie, baby, and I will make you proud.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
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