Sunday Bonus Podcast-JD Vance On Crime, Dallas ICE Tragedy, Free Speech & More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Michael Barry Show. So ted forgive me, but I
get a little fired up sometimes when I'm talking about this. Look,
I've gotten in arguments with people before. You know. A
couple of years ago, I took my family to New
York City. This is when I was in the United
States Senate. We spent a few days there. It was
a wonderful trip in a lot of ways. But you know,
every time we went to the subway, I'd have one
of my kids grabbing onto my leg or afraid because

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there was a crazy person yelling, hollering and screaming at
a three year old little kid. Why do we live
like this? Why do we accept this in our communities?
And the answer is because of bad political leadership. We
have accepted for too long this idea that we ought
to give over our streets to criminals and to vagrants
and to people who are screaming at us, instead of

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taking back our streets with our incredible law enforcement. And
there are so many things that we can do. You know,
in Washington, d C. The first two months that we
surged the National Guard, the President Trump surged the National
Guard into Washington, d C. There were no murders, not

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a single murder for two weeks in the streets of Washington,
d C. And you know, we have all these world
leaders who come and we'll tell them, you know, we
haven't had a murder in Washington, d C. In two weeks,
and these world leaders will look at us and say,
is that supposed to impress us? Like that doesn't sound
very good. But you know, to Washington, d C, which
averaged last year a violent murder every other day, two

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weeks without a murder was a hell of a track record.
And then we just surged the National Guard to Memphis, Tennessee,
again a Democrat city, a Democrat city in a red state,
but where the mayor said, we are sick of our
people being afraid to walk safely on the streets, So
why don't you help us? And that's our basic attitude
in the Trump administration is, look, we should not allow

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people to take over We should not allow these violent
criminals to take over city streets. And if the local
government wants out help, if the local authorities want our help,
then we are going to help them because we stand
for American safety everywhere, whether it's a big city or
a small one. Thank you, young man. So this is

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what it means. Being pro law and order is actually
not that difficult. There are some things we do, some
issues we address that are so complicated and so challenging,
but supporting our local law enforcement is actually pretty easy.
It's just a question of political willpower. Here's thing number one,
very simple. If our great police officers find a violent

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criminal and lock them up, we ought to keep them
locked up instead of letting them back on our streets
with a slap on our wrist. That means we want
to give our police officers the very best equipment and
the very best protection anywhere in the world. We want
you guys to have the very best, and we're going

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to fight every single day to make sure that they
have it. It means punishing state and local jurisdictions that
restrict your ability to do police work. They just want
to do their job. They ought to be allowed to
do it. And it means pursuing enhanced sentences for violent
criminals like the violent criminal who murdered that poor innocent

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girl in Charlotte, North Carolina, just a couple of months ago.
And I want to talk about her for a second,
because I think, oh, we got a beautiful baby over there.
How you doing, man, I would like to how old
is she? Six months old? Beautiful? Thank you, thank you
for bringing her. We went law and order for her
above all else. Right, that's why we're doing what we do.

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But we all know a couple of weeks ago and
it's one of these things that got bumped out of
the news because the political assassination of Charlie Kirk. And
so let me talk just a bit about that. You
all know Charlie. He was a great guy. He was
a great husband, a great father. He believed in two
things I think above all else. Number one, the second
most important is he believed in political debate in the

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United States of America that we ought to talk about
our disagreements and not attack one another over our disagreements.
And he gave his life dying for that principle. And
the second thing he believed, and it was the most important,
is that he wanted to be a Christian evangelist. He
wanted to bring the gospel everywhere, and he saw connecting
with people and debating politics as an opportunity to talk

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about his faith. And I think it's important to honor
him by recognizing that this is a kid, and he
was he died at thirty one years old. This is
a kid who every single day he would go to
these college campuses. He would talk for three hours with
anybody about whatever they wanted to talk about. And he
believed in the civic virtue of open debate. He gave

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his life to protect that civic virtue, and he gave
his life serving that civic virtue at the highest level.
He was a great guy, and his loss was the
nation's law. And Erica, we love you. Erica is his
beautiful widow. And I think you all will join me
in saying that what happened to Charlie was discussing it
was unacceptable and it is the most anti American act

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of violence that we've seen in the last couple of
weeks in this country. It was a disgrace.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
But thank you all, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
And the thing is, it actually bumped out of the news,
this terrible story in Charlotte. And here's the basic summary,
as far as I can recall, it is, you have
a violent criminal who has been arrested fourteen times, often
for very violent offenses, who gets on a bus with
an innocent young girl twenty two years old and slits

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her throat and she dies. She died because she was
coming home from worksheet. She worked at a pizzeria. She
came from a beautiful family, She had a young boyfriend,
she had her entire life ahead of her. And she
was actually a refugee from Ukraine, so she came from
a war torn country. She sought shelter in the United

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States of America, and because of soft on crime policies,
she was murdered here, not in the war torn country
she came from. Isn't that a disgrace And isn't that
an insult to the incredible law enforcement officers who arrested
this person fourteen times. They did everything that they could
to keep this thug off the streets, and it was

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the political leadership that failed. And we got to be
honest about that. I saw Governor, former Governor Cooper say,
and this is Michael Wattley's opponent, Former Governor Cooper said
just a couple of days after the attack that we
have got to do more when it comes to law
enforcement to keep people like this off the streets. And
my response was, Governor, he was arrested fourteen times. Law

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enforcement did their job. It's time for you to do
your job, and it's so amazing to me. Political democrats.
I don't think it's all democrats. I actually think most
Democrats want what most Republicans want, which is safety and

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their communities. But they always manage to turn issues of
crime into a distraction about race. They always try to
say that law enforcement lacking violent criminals up is inherently racist,
and I gotta be honest with you, that's an insult
to white people. It's an insult to black people too,
because all of us just want to live safely in
our communities. It doesn't make anounce of sense to me.

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But I actually, because of these Democrat talking points, I
went and looked up do you know that in most
big cities, the gross majority over ninety percent of violent
crime is committed by fewer than one percent of the
city's residents. This is not a black white issue. Is
we've got a percentage of violent criminals in our communities.

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Democrats would have let him out of prison, and Republicans
want to put him in prison and keep them there
so that all of us are safe in the process.
I think that's common sense, don't you. So I also
got to talk a little bit about another law and
order problem. I said Charlie Kirk's assassination was the most

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political and disgusting violence that we've had in this country
in the last couple of weeks. And that was true
maybe until this morning, because I don't know if you
all have followed the news, and we're still learning a
little bit about it. But what we know is that
in Dallas, Texas, and ICE facility and Immigrations and Customs
enforcement facility was opened fire upon by a violent left

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wing extremist, a person who wrote anti ICE messaging on
their bullets. And there's some evidence that we have that's
not yet public, but we know this person was politically motivated.
They were politically motivated to go after law enforcement. They
were politically motivated to go after people who are enforcing
our border. And I think that is the most disgusting thing.

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The very people who keep us safe ought to be
honored and protected and praised by Democrats and Republicans alike.
It is time to stop the rhetorical assault on law
enforcement because here's what happens. Because here's what happens when

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Democrats like Gavin Newsom did say that these people are
part of an authoritarian government. When the left wing media
lies about what they're doing. When they lie about who
they're arresting, when they lie about the actual job of
law enforcement, what they're doing is encouraging crazy people to
go and commit violence. You don't have to agree with
my immigration policies, you don't have to agree with Donald

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Trump's immigration policies. But if your political rhetoric encourages violence
against our law enforcement, you can go straight to hell,
and you have no place in the political conversation of
the United States of America. Just yesterday, just yesterday, NBC

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News maybe the worst of all the fake news. And
I'm sure we have an NBC reporter out there. It's
a tough competition, my friends, to be clear, but maybe
the worst I said, maybe the worst is NBC News.
And they said that Immigration Enforcement, you know what, they said,
that Immigration enforcement had detained a five year old autistic
girl in order to get to that girl's father. Turned

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out that story was a complete fabrication. It was a
complete dishonest lie. But when you go around and lie
about our law enforcement and you tell them that they're
mistreating five year old girl, what do you think is
going to happen? When democratic politicians incur doxing. When they
encourage us to unmask ICE enforcement officers, What do you

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think is going to happen? When the mayor of Los
Angeles encourages violent protesters to get in the face of
our law enforcement, what do you think is going to happen.
What's going to happen is political violence, and political violence
has gotten out of control in this country. We got
to stop it. We got to condemn it, and that starts,
unfortunately at the very top of the Democratic Party. If

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you want to stop political violence, stop attacking our law
enforcement as the Gestapo. If you want to stop political violence,
stop telling your supporters that everybody who disagrees with you
is a Nazi. If you want to stop political violence,
look in the mirror. That's the way that we stop
political violence in this cunt trape. And we got to
do it. And while we're all morning and rooting for

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and praying for everybody who was injured at that ICE facility,
and as far as we know, it looks like some
of the detainees, in other words, some of the potential
illegal aliens were some of those who are affected. Look,
just because we don't support illegal aliens, we don't want
them to be executed by violent assassins engaged in political
violence or either. So we're praying both for our ice

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agents but also for everybody who's affected by this terrible tack.
But that was an ice facility. And as these guys
behind me know, and a few of our police officers know,
police officers writ large face two many threats of violence
all across the United States of America, and we know
where it started. We all remember the summer of twenty

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twenty when all of these violent protesters were encouraged to
treat police as the enemy instead of as the solution.
You'd take a thousand police officers, you'd find one person
who didn't do something perfect and use that one guy
to tarnish the other nine one hundred and ninety nine
police officers. Well, I would like everybody, whether a Democrat,

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a Republican, or an independent, especially those in political leadership.
Can we all just agree that our police officers are heroes,
that they are public servants, and that the first and
most important step of keeping all of us safe is
to keep our police officers safe, because they are the
thin blue line between civilization and chaos. Thank you all.

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It just happens too much our police officers being assaulted,
our police officers being attacked. You have these crazy attacks
where you have a cop and a squad car who's
enjoying their lunch break and somebody comes up and summarily
executes them before the cop even had a chance. It
happens way too much, and it happens because too many

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of our political life leaders have encouraged it. Now, and
it's not just that, it's not just the rhetoric that
encourages violence against our law enforcement. You know, when I
was in in the Senate, there was a big bill
that was going around and it was basically that we
were going to try to eliminate qualified immunity from police officers,
one of the most disgraceful and worst ideas that I've

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ever seen. In other words, that we were going to
make it easy for criminals to sue police officers for
doing their job. Now, does anybody think when you see
the fake news media and the way they attack our
police officers, does anybody think that we need to make
it harder for our police to do their job. Some
of America cities today, some of America cities today have

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worse murder rates than the very worst third world cities
all over the world. That's not a joke. You go
to poor to Prince Haiti, or you go to some
of the poorest countries all over the world. Even those
countries have a better murder rate than Washington, d c.
Or some of the major American cities. Some of them
have better murder rates than Sharps, North Carolina. That's a disgrace.

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All of us should be asking how do we make
that better? How do we make people safer in their communities.
How do we make it easier for a young family
to walk down the street and security and comfort. But unfortunately,
we've got a crew of violent radicals in the United
States of America who think we ought to make it
harder for police to keep us safe than easier for
police to keep us safe. So here's one thing I'd

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like to do. I'd like every single Democrat starting today,
and every Republican too while we're at it, to say
that we are going to defeat these efforts to strip
immunity from our police officers. We're going to make it
easier for them to do their job, not harder for
them to do their job. Let's fight for it every
single day.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
That's exactly right, sir, that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
You can say that, but I can't. I've hit my
quotion for cuser today. I don't want Ted budd Tod
has own me, so I'm not gonna say that. But
we can run the clip back later. But let me
just let me just leave you with one final thought here. Look,
I was asked earlier today by a reporter, a reporter
I actually like, but a reporter who said, well, don't

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both sides have crazy people? And of course, obviously three
hundred and thirty million people, of course both sides have
crazy people. But if you look at the political violence
in our country over the last couple of months, the
last couple of years, it is not a both sides problem.
It is primarily on one side of the political aisle.

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So if we are going to truly go after the
political violence in this country, we need the democratic leadership
of Washington, d C. To look in the mirror. We
need them to renounce all political violence. When a poor
kid like Charlie Kirk is gunned down in cold blood,
we need them to start with condemning the violence instead

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of condemning something that Charlie Kirk said that they disagree with.
When you have when you have an entire network of
left wing organizations that encourage, that promote, and that apologize
for violence, you know what you're gonna get out of it.
You're gonna get political violence. So here's my sacred obligation

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to you, to all the law enforcement, but every person,
whether they wear a uniform or not. Over the next
couple of years, the Trump administration is going to do
everything that we can to dismantle the networks, to destroy
the funding, and to make it harder for people to
kill one another just because they disagree with what somebody says.
That is what we're going to do. We're gonna fight

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for it. Let me just leave you with this one
final thought. Now, most of the time when I go
round to events like this, I'm talking about our big,
beautiful bill, our working families tax cuts, and I want
to leave us just with a reflection on that, because
while we're talking about law and wars and we're honoring

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the police, one of the ways in which we rebuild
the American dream is by allowing you to keep more
of your hard earned money. And that bill that these
great congressmen worked on, and the great Senator here What
it did was very simple. It increased the child tax credit.
It meant that we're going to increase take home pay
by about ten thousand dollars over the four years of
the Trump administration. It means that if you're working, when

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innocent families are caught in the middle of conflicting GASA
on tips, or if you're working an overtime shift, the
government is going to take less of your money. And
I think that's a pretty good idea, because if you're
working hard, I think the government ought to keep its
hands out of your pocket. We're gonna do all those
things because I believe the American Dream is fundamentally about

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this principle. It's about the principle that for all the
parents and grandparents out there, and I'm now the parent
of three beautiful young kids, I just want them to
have a better life than the life that I have. That,
to me, is the core of the American Dream, the
promise that if you work hard and play by the rules,
we're going to give our kids, and we're going to
give our grandkids something that's just a little bit more prosperous,

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a little bit more secure, and a little bit more
proud than what we were given when we were kids.
That is, I think our sacred obligation that by inheriting
a great country from our parents and grandparents, we got
to pass on something even greater to the next generation.
But none of that, none of that matters without law
and order in public safety. How can you have the

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American dream if you can't walk down your neighborhood in safety.
How can you have the American dream if you're worried
about getting mugged when you're taking your family out to
a nice meal downtown. How can you have the American
dream when every celebration, every big moment in a person's life,
you're too worried about violent crime and not focused enough

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on the things that make life worth living. One of
the things that we have got to get back to
remembering is that if we want to preserve the American dream,
we've got to preserve the right of everybody, rich or poor,
to live in safety and security in their neighborhoods. You know,
when I grew up in Middletown, Ohio in the nineties,
we didn't have a whole lot of money. I was
raised by a woman who struggled very often to put

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food on the table and close on our back, mamma.
Everybody loves mammal most of all me. But you know what,
for all of the problems that we had, for all
the times that mamma was worried about where our next
meal would come from, for all the times that ma'am
was sometimes terrified that she wouldn't be able to make
an important bill payment, we never worried about public safety.

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And the reason we never worried about public safety, the
reason she knew I could go across the street and
play in the park and safety and comfort, is because
we had something in this country, and that was a
recognition Democrat and Republican that we stood with law enforcement
and we stood with their mission. It didn't matter what
your political affiliation was. We wanted to support people who

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kept our community safe. And that's something we've gotten away
from because a lot of the people who are poured
on the news, a lot of the people who actually
make policy in Washington, d C. Let's be honest, they
are wealthy people who can block themselves off from the
consequences of the policies they impose on the rest of us.
Now maybe now, maybe maybe they've never had to call

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a police officer because they can call a private security guard.
Maybe they've never had their home broken into because they
live behind a gated community. Maybe they don't have to
worry about walking down the streets of a city safely
because they've got a driver and a big, fancy car
who can take them from point A to point B.
But that is not true of the gross majority of

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our citizens. So I want to tell you when I
talk about protecting the American dream, when President Trump talks
about fighting for the American dream, at the very top
of that list is fighting for your ability, whether you're
rich or poor, to be safe in the home that
you love. It is our sacred obu deligation. It's their
sacred obligation, and we're going to work for it every

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