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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
In this Sunday Box podcast, you will hear the story
of Julie Hartman. Julie was a student at Harvard University
back in twenty eighteen. She found herself going along with
the leftist ideology that has invaded college campuses all over America.
Julie became shocked by the anti American sentiment and the
pro defund the police narrative being pushed among the professor's
(00:23):
classmates and of course, the media. In the summer of
twenty twenty, Julie began seeking her own voice and became
a force in the conservative movement. This Sunday we seek
to amplify the story of Julie Hartman.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Harvard did contribute hugely to my political awakening. There is
no doubt that that campus is hostile to conservative ideas.
My name is Julie Hartman and this is my story.
So I'm born and raised in Los Angeles, California. I'm
the youngest of three sisters. I was the loud, bombastic,
(01:03):
energetic child that actually always wanted to be a talk
show host.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So I grew up.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
In a pretty a political household. Although we didn't talk
about politics, they always talk to me about how lucky
I am to be an American. In particular, my dad
would always tell me, you know, you don't know what
it's like to live in other countries. People have really
bleak situations, just in a way that you can't imagine.
(01:31):
So that was sort of the extent to which I
was introduced to politics.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I wrote in eighth grade in my diary that I.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Wanted to go to Harvard, So I guess that was
the school. I wanted to go to, a university that
had the pedigree and the aroma of tradition that comes
with almost four hundred years old school. So I came
into Harvard as a freshman, and growing up in Los
(01:58):
Angeles and attending liberal schools, I considered myself to be
a liberal, so I just sort of agreed, even with
a lot of the ideas on campus. The summer of
twenty twenty was when my life completely changed. I was
sent home that March of twenty twenty due to the
COVID lockdowns. I was lonely and depressed and feeling anxious.
(02:22):
And in May of twenty twenty, when that video, that
horrible video came out of George Floyd's death, I was
just astounded by the crusade against law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Everyone it seemed succumbed to.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
These radical ideas that if you're white, then you are
inherently racist, and that we all have to engage in
these maoist self criticism sessions for our privilege. And I
remember thinking, if this is the left, this is not
who I am. And so one night, I remember this
night so vividly, I went on Google and I just
typed in what do conservatives think about police? The first
(03:03):
thing that popped up was Prager You, And of course,
thanks to Praguer You, I was introduced to a thinker
called Dennis Prager. I like to say that Prager You
really introduced me to conservative ideas, but I think that
Dennis's book on America really solidified my conservatism. It is
(03:24):
crazy for me to say now, but prior to reading
Dennis's book, I had never heard of the term eplerbus unham,
which is our national credo out of many one. And
Dennis's book, as corny as it may sound, made me
feel so unbelievably grateful that I had the good fortune
to be born as an American. And I finished the
(03:46):
book feeling an enormous sense of responsibility to protect and
defend this extraordinary and delicately calibrated system that we have.
Then I started, of course, listening to Dennis's radio show
and consuming a lot of his content. I just decided
to email him, and I remember sitting on the couch
(04:09):
writing this email, just thanking him.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
For his influence on my thinking.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And of course I thought, oh, he's never going to
read this, let alone respond. I did put in this
subject line, though, I played up the Harvard thing. I wrote,
Harvard student turns conservative, so I thought maybe I had
a chance of him clicking on it. And miraculously he
saw the email and he in three days responded to
me and he said, Julie, you mentioned that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You're from Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Would you want to come in sometime and sit in
and just watch me for an hour?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So I said, of course. That next week I meet him.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I'm sitting there as he's recording during commercial breaks. We're
chit chatting and we really hit it off, and he
turns to me and he goes, you know, Julie, your
story is really fascinating and I think that my listeners
might like to hear it. Would you want to be
on air? Sometime, and I thought that he was referring
to a week later. So I said, sure, we can
(05:06):
find a time. I'll schedule it and I'll never forget.
He rolled up his sleeve and he looked at his
watch and he goes, actually, we're back on air in
two minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Would you want to go on now? So I did.
The next morning, I.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Wake up and a video of that appearance was posted
on YouTube, and within I think about a day, it
got ten thousand views. And it was just so jarring
for me to sit there and see my face and
see people commenting, And of course the video circulated around
Harvard and that sort of launched me into the most
(05:43):
painful two weeks of my life. I had several close
friends of mine give me a really hard time for
going onto Dennis's show. It sounds so silly to say now,
but at the time it really felt catash straphic going
public with my conservatism. I remember thinking, oh my gosh,
(06:05):
people are going to google me, They're going to see
this video. I'm never going to get hired, no one's
ever going to be my friend, I'm never going to
get married. When many of the closest people in my
life were telling me that I had truly done something
bigoted and wrong by going on this platform. It meant
something to me because I care about those people. They
(06:26):
didn't take issue with what I said. They took issue
with the fact that I said that I appreciated Dennis
Prager's work and that I talked with him. But of
course that's just their Pavlovian response. Anything that is conservative
must be big at it. There's no other way to
think of it. Harvard did contribute hugely to my political
(06:48):
awakening because there is no doubt that that campus is
hostile to conservative ideas, and Dennis was so gracious during
that time of my life to call me and lend
a hand of support. Let me tell you, if you
want to know who your real friends are, you should
(07:08):
go on the Dennis Breaker Show and Avid go public.
That was actually such a blessing for me because it
showed me who really should be in my.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Life and who shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And just like other college campuses, if you dare to
speak conservative ideas, you can count on the fact that
you are going to be called certain names.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And I'm so much happier now that I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Public and open about this because it's who I am.
Dennis and I launched a show of our own called
Dennis and Julie that started out of my senior year
dorm room. So talk about being public everyone on.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Campus and knew that I was doing that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And at the end of senior year, I actually gave
a speech at the Memorial Chapel as part of their
Senior Speech program, where I talked about the anti Americanism
campus and how we have allowed these corrosive, destructive ideas
(08:06):
to take hold and all of us just remain silent,
like they aren't insane. I talked about how the Orgon
Department of Education has asserted that finding one right answer
in math is white supremacist, and we remain silent. The
American Medical Association is stated that they want to remove
gender from birth certificates, and we remain silent. Black Lives
(08:28):
Matter founders have embezzled millions and millions of dollars of
donation money to buy mansions in Los Angeles, and we
remain silent. And I said, we should not lie to
ourselves or to others. That a large reason that we
remain silent is that we see personal and professional advantages
in doing so, and.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I actually think that a lot of people know the
direction that this country is going in is insane, but
they don't want to take a stand. And I completely
understand why there are many people who are afraid to
speak out. There is a lot of discrimination against conservatives nowadays,
(09:09):
and not just against conservatives, but people who, even in
a small way, may be sympathetic to conservative values. It's
real many people cannot talk about what they really believe
because they would get fired from their jobs and they
have to put.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Food on the table.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
What I would say, though, especially to younger people who
may not be in that position, who have their professional
lives ahead of them, I think that we are truly
in a dire moment. If people do not speak out,
we will lose this country. And I think that we
are way closer to losing this country than we think.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
We have no choice. We have to speak up now.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I am so much happier now in my life, after
I've made this whole public conservative career of mine. I
found such an incredible value system that has become so
integral to my worldview, and I think has made me
a better, more principled person. Because conservatism is about conserving
(10:08):
something that is the principles of the American founding. It
requires you to identify your values and your principles and
stick to them in life. It is so helpful to
know what you believe in, know what you want, and
try to preserve it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And that's what conservatism has taught me. If you like The.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Michael Berry Show and Podcast, please tell one friend, and
if you're so inclined, write a nice review of our podcast. Comments, suggestions, questions,
and interest in being a corporate sponsor and partner can
be communicated directly to the show at our email address,
Michael at Michael Berryshow dot com, or simply by clicking
(10:54):
on our website, Michael Berryshow dot com. The Michael Berry
Show and Pop Podcast is produced by Ramon Roeblis, the
King of Ding. Executive producer is Chad Nakanishi. Jim Mudd
is the creative director. Voices Jingles, Tomfoolery, and Shenanigans are
(11:19):
provided by Chance McLean. Director of Research is Sandy Peterson.
Emily Bull is our assistant listener and superfan. Contributions are
appreciated and often incorporated into our production. Where possible, we
give credit, where not, we take all the credit. For ourselves.
(11:40):
God bless the memory of Rush Limbaugh. Long live Elvis,
be a simple man like Leonard Skinnard told you, and
God bless America. Finally, if you know a veteran suffering
from PTSD, call Camp Hope at eight seven seven seven
(12:00):
one seven p T s D, and a combat veteran
will answer the phone to provide free counseling.
The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
In this Sunday Box podcast, you will hear the story
of Julie Hartman. Julie was a student at Harvard University
back in twenty eighteen. She found herself going along with
the leftist ideology that has invaded college campuses all over America.
Julie became shocked by the anti American sentiment and the
pro defund the police narrative being pushed among the professor's
(00:23):
classmates and of course, the media. In the summer of
twenty twenty, Julie began seeking her own voice and became
a force in the conservative movement. This Sunday we seek
to amplify the story of Julie Hartman.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Harvard did contribute hugely to my political awakening. There is
no doubt that that campus is hostile to conservative ideas.
My name is Julie Hartman and this is my story.
So I'm born and raised in Los Angeles, California. I'm
the youngest of three sisters. I was the loud, bombastic,
(01:03):
energetic child that actually always wanted to be a talk
show host.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So I grew up.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
In a pretty a political household. Although we didn't talk
about politics, they always talk to me about how lucky
I am to be an American. In particular, my dad
would always tell me, you know, you don't know what
it's like to live in other countries. People have really
bleak situations, just in a way that you can't imagine.
(01:31):
So that was sort of the extent to which I
was introduced to politics.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I wrote in eighth grade in my diary that I.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Wanted to go to Harvard, So I guess that was
the school. I wanted to go to, a university that
had the pedigree and the aroma of tradition that comes
with almost four hundred years old school. So I came
into Harvard as a freshman, and growing up in Los
(01:58):
Angeles and attending liberal schools, I considered myself to be
a liberal, so I just sort of agreed, even with
a lot of the ideas on campus. The summer of
twenty twenty was when my life completely changed. I was
sent home that March of twenty twenty due to the
COVID lockdowns. I was lonely and depressed and feeling anxious.
(02:22):
And in May of twenty twenty, when that video, that
horrible video came out of George Floyd's death, I was
just astounded by the crusade against law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Everyone it seemed succumbed to.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
These radical ideas that if you're white, then you are
inherently racist, and that we all have to engage in
these maoist self criticism sessions for our privilege. And I
remember thinking, if this is the left, this is not
who I am. And so one night, I remember this
night so vividly, I went on Google and I just
typed in what do conservatives think about police? The first
(03:03):
thing that popped up was Prager You, And of course,
thanks to Praguer You, I was introduced to a thinker
called Dennis Prager. I like to say that Prager You
really introduced me to conservative ideas, but I think that
Dennis's book on America really solidified my conservatism. It is
(03:24):
crazy for me to say now, but prior to reading
Dennis's book, I had never heard of the term eplerbus unham,
which is our national credo out of many one. And
Dennis's book, as corny as it may sound, made me
feel so unbelievably grateful that I had the good fortune
to be born as an American. And I finished the
(03:46):
book feeling an enormous sense of responsibility to protect and
defend this extraordinary and delicately calibrated system that we have.
Then I started, of course, listening to Dennis's radio show
and consuming a lot of his content. I just decided
to email him, and I remember sitting on the couch
(04:09):
writing this email, just thanking him.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
For his influence on my thinking.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And of course I thought, oh, he's never going to
read this, let alone respond. I did put in this
subject line, though, I played up the Harvard thing. I wrote,
Harvard student turns conservative, so I thought maybe I had
a chance of him clicking on it. And miraculously he
saw the email and he in three days responded to
me and he said, Julie, you mentioned that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You're from Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Would you want to come in sometime and sit in
and just watch me for an hour?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So I said, of course. That next week I meet him.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I'm sitting there as he's recording during commercial breaks. We're
chit chatting and we really hit it off, and he
turns to me and he goes, you know, Julie, your
story is really fascinating and I think that my listeners
might like to hear it. Would you want to be
on air? Sometime, and I thought that he was referring
to a week later. So I said, sure, we can
(05:06):
find a time. I'll schedule it and I'll never forget.
He rolled up his sleeve and he looked at his
watch and he goes, actually, we're back on air in
two minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Would you want to go on now? So I did.
The next morning, I.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Wake up and a video of that appearance was posted
on YouTube, and within I think about a day, it
got ten thousand views. And it was just so jarring
for me to sit there and see my face and
see people commenting, And of course the video circulated around
Harvard and that sort of launched me into the most
(05:43):
painful two weeks of my life. I had several close
friends of mine give me a really hard time for
going onto Dennis's show. It sounds so silly to say now,
but at the time it really felt catash straphic going
public with my conservatism. I remember thinking, oh my gosh,
(06:05):
people are going to google me, They're going to see
this video. I'm never going to get hired, no one's
ever going to be my friend, I'm never going to
get married. When many of the closest people in my
life were telling me that I had truly done something
bigoted and wrong by going on this platform. It meant
something to me because I care about those people. They
(06:26):
didn't take issue with what I said. They took issue
with the fact that I said that I appreciated Dennis
Prager's work and that I talked with him. But of
course that's just their Pavlovian response. Anything that is conservative
must be big at it. There's no other way to
think of it. Harvard did contribute hugely to my political
(06:48):
awakening because there is no doubt that that campus is
hostile to conservative ideas, and Dennis was so gracious during
that time of my life to call me and lend
a hand of support. Let me tell you, if you
want to know who your real friends are, you should
(07:08):
go on the Dennis Breaker Show and Avid go public.
That was actually such a blessing for me because it
showed me who really should be in my.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Life and who shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And just like other college campuses, if you dare to
speak conservative ideas, you can count on the fact that
you are going to be called certain names.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And I'm so much happier now that I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Public and open about this because it's who I am.
Dennis and I launched a show of our own called
Dennis and Julie that started out of my senior year
dorm room. So talk about being public everyone on.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Campus and knew that I was doing that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And at the end of senior year, I actually gave
a speech at the Memorial Chapel as part of their
Senior Speech program, where I talked about the anti Americanism
campus and how we have allowed these corrosive, destructive ideas
(08:06):
to take hold and all of us just remain silent,
like they aren't insane. I talked about how the Orgon
Department of Education has asserted that finding one right answer
in math is white supremacist, and we remain silent. The
American Medical Association is stated that they want to remove
gender from birth certificates, and we remain silent. Black Lives
(08:28):
Matter founders have embezzled millions and millions of dollars of
donation money to buy mansions in Los Angeles, and we
remain silent. And I said, we should not lie to
ourselves or to others. That a large reason that we
remain silent is that we see personal and professional advantages
in doing so, and.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I actually think that a lot of people know the
direction that this country is going in is insane, but
they don't want to take a stand. And I completely
understand why there are many people who are afraid to
speak out. There is a lot of discrimination against conservatives nowadays,
(09:09):
and not just against conservatives, but people who, even in
a small way, may be sympathetic to conservative values. It's
real many people cannot talk about what they really believe
because they would get fired from their jobs and they
have to put.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Food on the table.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
What I would say, though, especially to younger people who
may not be in that position, who have their professional
lives ahead of them, I think that we are truly
in a dire moment. If people do not speak out,
we will lose this country. And I think that we
are way closer to losing this country than we think.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
We have no choice. We have to speak up now.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I am so much happier now in my life, after
I've made this whole public conservative career of mine. I
found such an incredible value system that has become so
integral to my worldview, and I think has made me
a better, more principled person. Because conservatism is about conserving
(10:08):
something that is the principles of the American founding. It
requires you to identify your values and your principles and
stick to them in life. It is so helpful to
know what you believe in, know what you want, and
try to preserve it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And that's what conservatism has taught me. If you like The.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Michael Berry Show and Podcast, please tell one friend, and
if you're so inclined, write a nice review of our podcast. Comments, suggestions, questions,
and interest in being a corporate sponsor and partner can
be communicated directly to the show at our email address,
Michael at Michael Berryshow dot com, or simply by clicking
(10:54):
on our website, Michael Berryshow dot com. The Michael Berry
Show and Pop Podcast is produced by Ramon Roeblis, the
King of Ding. Executive producer is Chad Nakanishi. Jim Mudd
is the creative director. Voices Jingles, Tomfoolery, and Shenanigans are
(11:19):
provided by Chance McLean. Director of Research is Sandy Peterson.
Emily Bull is our assistant listener and superfan. Contributions are
appreciated and often incorporated into our production. Where possible, we
give credit, where not, we take all the credit. For ourselves.
(11:40):
God bless the memory of Rush Limbaugh. Long live Elvis,
be a simple man like Leonard Skinnard told you, and
God bless America. Finally, if you know a veteran suffering
from PTSD, call Camp Hope at eight seven seven seven
(12:00):
one seven p T s D, and a combat veteran
will answer the phone to provide free counseling.
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