November 8, 2023 • 42 mins
Joe Escalante's weekly dive into the business end of showbiz. This week: the latest box office numbers. Also, AI is taking over everything, and Scarlet Johannson Is not a fan... Even with a disclaimer saying that it isn't really her, she's worried that people will think that the AI is actually her. And Joe rips apart Aerosmith's Steven Tyler for being a terrible person in the 1970s.
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Joe Ascolante Live from Hollywood. ByHollywood, you mean Burbank across the street
from a Wiener Schnitzer, a WienerSchnitzel that serves beer. It's it's appropriate
to pronounce that with the proper Germanbecause that is a proper German restaurant across
the street. Here they're having anotherSaley. You know what. They brought
back, the North Korean Fusion tacos, So everybody's excited about that. It's
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bigger than the McRib. I meanyou can see the like, can you
look out the window now and seethe lines out front of that Wiener Schnitzel.
It is packed all the way tothe what's it called the chick fil
A? The chick fil A?Yeah, I me and Chick fil A
is closed today, so it's itmight be a little bit of that.
People go into the Chick fil Aand then they see it's closed, and
they go over to that Wiener Schnitzel, get a beer and a North Korean
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Fusion taco. But we are hereto talk about the business end of show
business, and we do this everySunday from five to seven. I want
to add that we're the first peopleto ever do this. You know,
that's Sam. I've been doing thissince two thousand and six, the first
people to ever do a show onradio. Yes, but now there's like
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one hundred of these in the podcastworld. They're all bigger and more successful
and make more money than mine.But you know what, you have to
be humbled to be before you canbe exalted. We're underground, So we
are underground. AM radio eleven fiftyon your AM dial. All right,
let's get to the show business.Box office pretty dismal, right now,
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going to a dismal period. Butin the theaters we have a few notable
things happening. Number one in themovie box office. What's your guess,
I have no idea. I havenot even gone downstairs. There's like I'm
guessing maybe no, Marvel's comes outnext week. I don't know, Oh
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five nights at Freddy's. Ahah.Yeah. It was Halloween and all the
kids dragged their parents out to seeit, and then the parents were like
trying to cover their kids eyes throughoutthe most of it is that the word
on the street for that movie itwas it was actually like they made it
have like actual scary stuff. Itwas pretty realistic. Stuff from what I
understand, Well, it's done onehundred and thirteen million at the box office,
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and I'm sure they didn't spend thatmuch money on now maybe they did
not on AMC's Taylor Swift. TheI don't know why they call that AMC.
AMC is actually a distributor of distributorof the of the Taylor Swift movie.
That is one hundred and sixty fivetotal millions at the box office thirteen.
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So that's These are two old moviesthat are the number one and number
two, number three Killers of theFlower Moon, the worst movie ever made,
is now creeping up in the boxoffice rankings, but it was dropping
and number four and limited release Atwenty four's Priscilla, the story of Priscilla
Presley married to Elvis at like well, I don't know, fourteen or something
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like that. So that's a salaciousstory. And it's they're billing it as
people are talking about it as thisis the stuff they didn't show you in
the Elvis movie. I heard it'sfantastic, only did about five million.
It's a as I said, Alimited release Number five at the in the
box office is a movie called Radical. Now this is like it's his story
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about these sixth graders in Matamorris,Mexico, and I think it's some feel
good story. But that's doing prettywell. It's not playing at my theater.
Panteon Films is the studio they havelike a I think Panteon has a
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a pentellion. I think they havelike a streaming service with a bunch of
Spanish movies. Number six Exorcists TheBeliever. I still haven't seen it because
I can't see it with my wifeand she doesn't like these kinds of movies.
But I still will see it eventuallyafter death. Number seven is from
Angel Studios. Angel Studios who stunnedthe world with their Sounds of Freedom movie
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earlier in the year, and theykeep churning out more movies and they're making
money. This movie probably cost abouttwo million to make. It's a documentary
about near death experiences. Sam,have you ever had one of those?
Every morning when I wake up?Yes, hilarious, this is funny radio.
Well, it's done nine million atthe box office so far for a
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movie that probably costs two million.So another successful I mean these Christian movie
This is like in the Christian moviegenre, near death experiences. I'll talk
about a little more after I getdone with the top ten. We have
What Happens Later? Wait, PawPatrol, which you saw or you didn't
see, did not see? Mykid is a little too old for that
to think it's cool. Yeah,I heard from other parents. It's a
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good movie and it's doing well,very successful, sixty two million so far.
What Happens Later is a bleaker streetfilm directed by Meg Ryan or not
directed by Meg Ryan, or MegRyan's in it. Meg Ryan is in
it? When was she in anything? It's like welcome back to the to
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the uh to the movie business likeis the story. She did direct it
and it's you know, it's arom com kind of thing with David Dukeveny.
Sounds about right. But when wasthe last movie? What was the
last movie she was in? It'sbeen a while. She was like the
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biggest female lead that you could havein any movie. Her and Tom Hanks
were like making magic everywhere they went, and then she fell off the earth.
Yeah, it's very strange, andshe probably went off and lived her
life. You know, she probablyshe wasn't in jail. I'm pretty sure,
I hope. So, So yeah, what Happens Later is number nine,
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Limited release Freelance number ten. It'slike a John Cena movie that's like
an action thing that's probably abysmal.But what did what did your host see?
Did you did the did the engineersee anything? Did you see anything?
Oh, you're the engineer. Thisis not engineer, actually, because
that's what it sounds like. Youdidn't see anything. You didn't even go
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downstairs. When you say downstairs,you mean the movie theater that you live
above. Yeah. No, Iavoided going downstairs pretty much for the whole
week. I was. I messedup my knee, so going anywhere was
pretty difficult. Okay, I'm sorryfor your pain. I saw something because
you know, I got to seesomething. Been very busy this week with
a lot of stuff that I'll talkabout later but not today, big things
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in the escalante world. But Isaw After Death from Angel Studios. I
was going there. I was gonnago see you went to the movies.
I was gonna go see. Ah, I forgot what I was going to
see. I was going to seesomething, you know, normal, and
then I go, you know what, I think? I think my wife
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and I will enjoy this after deathand better and it was very well made,
said documentary about people with near deathexperiences, so they interview them,
they reenact stuff. I like reenactmentsbecause I do that professionally for documentaries and
for my own shows. So thereenactments were top shelf and that helps a
lot. So you're watching cinema,you know, you're you're there's a reason
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to be in the theater, andthe story were compelling, and you know,
near death experiences are kind of like, well, you can explain it
a lot of ways, but thenwhen everyone has the same you're like start
to think, well, maybe thesethere's more to these if everyone's having the
same one. And then you mightthink, well, maybe there's like a
collective consciousness and people are hearing otherpeople's and then so they're you know,
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they're just dreaming. Are they justdreaming? But then people are able to
hover above their body in the operatingroom when they're pronounced dead and explain,
and when they come back, theytell people what was in what was happening
in the room, and things theycould not have known. Then you get
into the like you know, theparanormal realm or the mystical religious realm.
So it's you know, it's allbigger than all of us and very well
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made. And then they get intothe dark ones too. Not everybody goes
to heaven and sees a you know, a beautiful blonde Jesus. Sometimes it's
a dark experience and they come backfrom that. And so it's it's pretty
if you if you don't believe inan after life, and if you especially
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specifically Christianity, even though they don'treally mention Christianity hardly at all here.
It's just it's just, you knowwhat what happens to people. You won't
like this movie, and you mightbe like some people that are calling it
propaganda, but you know whatever Imean, Angel Studios there, they do
have a message. Hey, there'sthere's a life after death, so behave
yourself. Is that that's maybe themessage of that of that company. And
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some people don't like that there islife after death, behave your self message,
and we all know why they becausethey think that somebody is going to
tell them not to lead a debaucherylife or a pleasant life, and they're
gonna be someone's gonna give them abunch of rules. But in any case,
the Christians are making a lot ofmovies and they're making good movies and
they're making a ton of money.So people are taking notice. How much
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time we got. Should we takea break and check the traffic. Let's
take a bit of a break andcheck the traffic. All right, we
are now checking taking a break andchecking the traffic on Sclante Live from Hollywood,
Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood. Weare back and we are talking about
the business end of show business likewe do every Sunday. Here O K
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E I B eleven fifty on yourAM dial back to the movies. Here.
The the biggest movie in streaming rightnow, sam is None too anuin
two Yes monhat dose as it's knownin the Spanish speaking world. Uh,
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it's it's it came to streaming sofar, so close to when it was
in the box office that that it'sit's uh. People are freaking about out
about that too. Forgot why.But anyway, speaking of streaming, Windows
and the Five Nights at Freddy's isstill killing at the box office. Number
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one. It is also available onstreaming. So even though it's available on
streaming, people need to go seeit at the box office. That that's
what they're telling everybody. Nice,So it's good to see that finally,
people like if they have the optionto stay home, they're not, yes
exactly, And it seemed like therewas another like, you know, sort
of a COVID scare coming for awhile, but that I is it.
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You're in a different world to me. I'm down here in Orange County.
You're up in la are you?Are you in that same sense? There
was a COVID scare and then itwent away, or you think it's still
going there was because everybody caught it, and then everybody got better. Everybody
realized that you don't really die fromit this kind now or very rare.
Well, I mean it's for example, my co parent had it. We
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both had it. I've had prettymild symptoms. She had to go to
the hospital. The difference was betweenhere now and how things were a couple
of years ago. They gave hera pill, so medication that knocked it
out within a comp day. Shewas fine, and I understand she had
a near death experience and she yeah, she re evaluated together for a little
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bit. How did that work out? We survived. It was near death,
but we made it okay individually,Okay, Yeah, So people are
going out one thing I did well, I can recommend one more thing in
the entertainment world is oh my gosh. It seems like for a year my
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brother kept telling me, hey,you should watch you know, season four,
episode three of the Twilight Zone.It's a it's a one hour Twilight
Zone or even longer, I guessif you added commercials on it. But
it's total fifty the original series.Yes, it's a fifty one minute episode
of a Twilight Zone and it's calledValley of the Shadow reference to the Old
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Testament there, Okay. He kepttelling me to watch it, and my
brother watches Twilight Zones over and over. He gets together with friends and they
watched like, you know, watchit together virtually online or whatever together,
you know, the these kind ofthings where people watch shows together while they're
on the phone with each other.I guess, so he does that.
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He kept telling me, you gotto watch this thing, and I I
didn't get around to it. ButI have paramount plus, which is a
paramoun plus. If you have that, you have every Twilight Zone episode at
your disposal. Some people have themall on DVDs and you know, but
if you have paramount plus, they'rejust sitting there anytime you want them.
So I finally went and watched it. Sensational. So the episode is called
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Valley of the Shadow, and it'sabout a guy who comes into a small
town. Classic Twilight Zone type plot, goes into a small town and he's
got to get gassed and he's lost, and he ends up being stuck in
the town, and you know,it's a weird society of people that have
discovered peace and equality, but theyhave a secret that has been bestowed upon
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them that allows them to keep theirworld the way it is. And now
that he's seen it, they can'tlet him out because part of their bylaws
is knowing If any outsiders find outabout this, then you have to eliminate
them. They either have to joinyou and join the society, or you
have to eliminate them. And it'skind of one of those maybe it's an
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allegory or a I don't know theEnglish language that well, but the communism
versus Freedom movies and Twilight Zone episodesand that were made a lot in the
fifties, like High Noon is one. So do you choose this equal utopian
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paradise or do you choose which isyou know, maybe kills your inner soul
or do you choose freedom where peoplehave the freedom to kill each other and
commit evil and and that's a prettycommon theme in twilet zones and a lot
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of movies in the fifties. SoI recommend that the Valley of the Shadow,
I think it's season four, episodethree or twy the Zone. It's
like a movie because it's long.Okay, it's kind of like like maybe
The Black Panther. The Black Panthercomic book came out not too long after
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this episode came out, and that'slike a society that you know, has
discovered a peaceful way to live andthe outsiders aren't welcome and you either have
to assimilate or you have to leave. Kind of like the Prisoner little TV
show. Anyway, good one,interesting comparison. I like that. Yeah,
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So it's it's not a you know, it's not a new theme,
but it's an in it's and it'syou know, continues. Maybe Avatar.
Avatar is kind of like that youhave this wonderful society, but you have
to be blue, so you know, Okay. Also in the television world,
we have a little mini scandal thatpopped up this week. Sam,
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You're gonna like this one. Intwenty twenty, the then president of Original
Programming, Casey Bloyse of HBO aniceto work for HBO just I mean,
who cares? But whatever, CaseyBloyse, he's still there, by the
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way, now he's the CEO andchairman, but he was. He said
someone needed to go on a mission, and what they needed to do was
create basically fake Twitter accounts and goafter the TV critics. And he was
at first irked by a tweet froma Vulture TV critic, Catherine Van Aarandanc
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who who had some thoughts on thePerry Mason HBO series and she thought it
was weak and blah blah blah,and she wrote, dear press to ch
TV, please find some way tocommunicate male trauma besides showing me a flashback
to the hero's memories of trench warfare. Okay, that's a fair criticism,
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you know, No, I'd actuallyagree with that. That is pretty fair.
A lot of the like, whenyou have flashbacks to you know,
what made a man a man,usually it flashes back to some kind of
military combat. Yeah, yeah,trench warfare, like classic, and it's
like you got nothing else? Isthat all you could come up and it
is I think it's fair. It'slike think for five minutes. You know,
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you got all these writers in thewriter room. Let's have five minutes
and let's think of do we haveanything else besides trench warfare that this guy
might have gone through in his youth. And you know, let's me and
me brainstorm right now. Maybe wecan fix this. Like, Okay,
Catholic school, maybe a lot ofpeople traumatized by nuns hitting them. I've
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seen those in some movies. Butyeah, that's one we can run with.
Yeah, it's not very original.But and maybe he bullied in high
school. I've seen that one.Yeah, made fun of in high school.
But I guess after a while theystarted probably going through these and they're
like, well, maybe he's Jewishand they called them you know, and
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that's what happened in the Steven Spielbergmovie. It seemed a little try to
beat you over the head with hisand there you know, all these these
things that happened in the movies,they're always so black and white. Maybe
we got to think ahead, like, you know, instead of like looking
backwards and thinking this is what isusually you know, what we've already seen.
We got a look towards the futurewith like VR. Somebody raided virtually
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raided my bank account and took allof my money. And now I got
get my revenge or something. Uhyeah, revenge point. But I mean,
if it's a flashback, I don'tknow how you look ahead, but
you know you're I mean, youhave to set further. Guess. So
he's a he's a lawyer and inhis you know, he went to law
school and it was traumatic because heh I don't know, maybe trench warfare
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is pretty good law school. Hewas pretty true too. I can see
that maybe he was on his wayto a camp for kids about to be
molested, and that's a Jesil Nickjoke. But anyway, well, anyways,
they didn't. When I first readthis story, igo, Well,
the story is about evil critics andone guy finally got back at him,
and now he's in trouble because theyfound out he was making it that they
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he was hiring his assistant or somethingthat to make all these fake tweets to
hit back at the critic. Butnow that I read the story, I
think the critic was right. Sofirst I thought he was the fight in
the good fight. If he wantsto fight the good fight, go back
to the writer's room and say,come up with something besides trench warf because
we got called out on it.All right, let's go to break and
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we come back. Scarlett Johansson andher body are in the news Joe Ascalante
Live from Hollywood. We are backthe show business, the business end of
it, and let's let's go tothe intellectual property portion of the show,
where Scarlett Johansson has taken legal actionagainst an AI app that is using her
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likeness. She is upset because therewas a twenty two second ad posted on
Twitter by an artificial intelligence imaging companycalled Lisa AI colon nineties yearbook and Avatar.
It's a pretty awkward name, butwhat happened on the app was that
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they were using Obviously they're using herlikeness. She's mad and she's very aggressive.
Remember she went after did Disney ornot Disney HBO for Mourner Brothers for
not putting the movies out on theirservice instead of in the theaters and ignoring
the fact that she gets a bigbonus if it's in the theater. I
thought that was with Disney through Marvelyeah, oh yeah, Disney, I
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mean, and then that's when andthen HBO just try to solve their problem.
They they just put everything on there. They'd had the same problem and
other other companies. Yeah, buthers was Yeah, Disney, thank you.
So in this ad twenty two seconds, it shows Scarlet Johanson, who
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we both love. We can agreeon that. In there behind the scenes
in the Black Widow movie, she'scomes up to some people and says,
what's up, guys. It's Scarlettand I want you to come with me,
before a graphic covers her mouth andthe screen transitions into AI generated photos
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resemble her. A fake voice imitatingJohansson then continues to speak promoting the AI
app, and she says it's notlimited to avatars only. You can also
create images with texts and even yourAI videos. I think you shouldn't miss
it. Fine print under the adsays images produced by Lisa AI. So
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it's telling you that the app madethese images. They're not real. And
then it says in the warning ithas nothing to do with this person.
So that's they thought that was likea disclaimer so they could show her and
tell you this is what you cando by the way, this is not
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her. We created this and ithas nothing to do with her. Trying
to say that she's like not endorsingthis project, but they don't really say
she's not endorsing this project. Theysay it has nothing to do with her.
You see how they're playing with wordsand they're trying to say like,
well, yeah, we said this. There's no words that they could say
that make this legal. I don'tthink do you think that's enough of a
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disclaimer? I mean, what doyou think is this a free speech thing?
Like, how are you going totell people that you can make celebrity,
you can make celebrities do things ifyou can't show that they made celebrities
do things. Yeah, if Imean, if they're giving a disclaimer that
this isn't the real person, I'mguessing that might help a little. But
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this is like new waters that peopleare treading legally. I don't know.
Yeah, I mean it might helpa little. They get to say,
well, hey, what are thedamages, because these kind of things are
all about damages. How many howmuch damages did she suffer? Well,
she suffered damages because people she's anendorser, She's a paid endorser of products,
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or she at least has the abilityto do that it's a major part
of her income or could be,or the fact that she doesn't do that
boosts her box office and her credibility. That translates into money. So you're
costing her money either because she nowcannot endorse another company like this, or
she's saturated in the marketplace. Eitherway, it's not very hard to tell
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a court that, like, look, this costs her a lot of money
because she's now saturated and people think, well, whoa, WHOA what people
think she's in she's being endorsable.We wrote that she's not endorsed by that,
that this has nothing to do withher, and that might go to
a jury, like one guy ina jury saying, hey, well,
you know what, they wrote this, so don't let's not throw the book
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at them. So they're kind ofmanaging their risk here by writing these disclaimers,
hoping to make a splash, andthen they'll just say sorry, just
kidding and they'll stop doing it,which they have stopped, and now we're
talking about them. So maybe theygot what they wanted. But Scarlett Johanson
knows that, so she's not gonnalay down she's going to go after him,
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and she's gonna get damages, andwe'll see what kind of damages she
gets. It'll be interesting. Okay. Now, in the celebrities behaving badly
genre, nobody behaves more badly thanrock star Steven Tyler of the rock band
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Aerosmith. I didn't like Aerosmith whenI was young because I knew in my
heart of hearts that when that guyputs down his microphone he's going to go
sexually harassed women and assault them.So you might say I predicted this by
my site. I predicted it witha lack of support for Aerosmith. And
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we can all say Aerosmith's cool now, you know, because we go like,
hey, they're really cool. They'repart of this you know, eighties
rock thing, and you can gosee their concerts and be cool. And
their church t shirts are worth alot of money from the old days,
and everybody likes retro stuff. I'mnot buying into it. The band was
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awful then, The band's awful now. To me. This might have been
your world, this was not myworld. So I'm just not buying into
and and and part of it wasI didn't like their image. I don't
like that guy's image. Now thatguy. Have you seen him? I
have, yes, that guy,Like, you're a grown man. What
are you wearing on your fingers?Like these rings? You wear, these
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scarfs, you wear this hair,You're a grown ass man. You get
up in the morning and you putthese rings on your finger, Like,
I'm gonna look great with these things. You haven't wanted to have one of
those scarves? You got me?You know me too well, Sam,
So you know something made me cringeand I knew it was going on.
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And I'll also something I also knewis like one day when the me too
movement moves into rock en Roll,it will explode because it's like, you
know, it's it's part of thegiven. These guys, this is what
they do and they're not, youknow, arguably, they don't have the
same education as Harvey Weinstein or lessmoon Vests or people that have been canceled.
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They are, you know, justdegenerates. That's the image they sell.
Look at me, I'm a badboy. Do you know what a
bad boy is saying? I've seena few. Yeah, you bad boy
does wonderful advantage, takes advantage ofyoung women. It's like number one.
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That's a number of thing you dodo you're a bad you leave your house?
Whom I what woman am I goingto try to trick into having sex
with me? So that's the wholeimage. And I, you know,
I was wondering what would happen whenthey start getting into this and the there's
a lot of band members have beencanceled here and there, even the guy
from the band Anti Flag. AntiFlag is a big punk rock band that
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was, you know, in thescene and playing and very political, hyper
political, just we are here tobring down the man, and we are
for women's rights and all the disadvantaged. And then some some women start coming
out, one after another after another, after another after another saying this singer
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assaulted me. This was happening.I was giving tours at the Punk Rock
Museum, and while I'm giving tours, I'm like, over here is Anti
Flag. I was like, wait, where did it go? And then
people are running around the museum tearingdown the Anti Flag stuff. This is
in Las Vegas. If you haven'tbeen in the museum, it's amazing.
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But they're tearing down, they're takingthe stuff out. When this came out,
and these are people that know,you know, people that know,
they knew it wasn't just wild accusations, they said, they checked it out.
They go, yeah, this isall true. The band broke up
the same day because they knew,and so they just started dismantling this stuff
right away. That's in the punkrock world. Punk rock world is not
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selling bad boy images. That guywas, you know, his politics might
have been misguided, but he theywere you know, legitimate political campaigns that
he was running, and they wereand that's how kind of punk rock is.
Punk rock is not about this kindof bad boys stuff other than bad
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boy to authority. But in theyou know, aerosmith world, you know,
that's what they're selling. And sofinal they caught up with Stephen Tyler.
You might have remembered a case recently, did you remember this one?
This woman named Miserly was her name? She Missley, Missley. She he
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came out of the woodwork because StephenTyler, when she was sixteen or seventeen
persuaded, oh no, yeah,sixteen, persuaded her parents to sign over
the guardianship to her to him sohe can have sex with her without going
to jail and travel across state lineswith him without criminal prosecution. Did you
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hear this story? I remember vaguelyof it, but yeah, the details
of it are pretty lurid. Yeah, and then forced her to persuade her
to get an abortion. So thisis in the monster category. And then
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for some reason he's not, youknow, in jail or fully scorned.
And then another lady has come outnow with her. She was a model
in New York. Her name isJeane Bellino. This is the news she
has come out. Let's say,because we got to go to break okay,
so I'll tell you her claims whenwe come back. Joe Scalantate live
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from Hollywood. Joe Joe Escalante Livefrom Hollywood. We are back the business
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a radio show. Some guy namedSam turns it into a podcast, so
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I guess I have a podcast.And sometimes it's just a podcast. But
today we're live on the radio fortwo hours from five to seven. We're
talking about Steven Tyler and the latestcase against him. This one's not as
bad as the other one. Thisone is a girl that he definitely assaulted.
She was seventeen years old and he'sgross but he uh, it seems
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like they didn't have sex, buthe, you know, groped her,
grinded her, dry hump whatever,all this kind of stuff. And she
then he tried to get her togo up into his hotel room and she
finally got away. So her nameis Billino. Billino. She's just a
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one named person in my mind now, Jean Bellino. So Jean Bellino.
She alleges in a New York ina New York lawsuits. She actually filed
the lawsuit in nineteen seventy five.She's seventeen years old. Steelen Tyler assaulted
her. Now Stephen Tyler is stillout there going to grammy things, and
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I don't know how he's getting awaywith it. After you convince some family
to I'm like, maybe Elvis didthe same thing, but Elvis is gone,
okay, and he probably thought Elvisdid this. Jerry Lee Luis that's
what I was thinking. The nameJerry Lee Lewis did this, I'm going
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to do this, but it's stillit's still gross. And I don't know
what's going on with I apologize forthis. I don't know what's going on
with Miss Lee's claim and where thatended, the one that she that he,
you know, persuaded to have theabortion and had the he had the
guardianship over her. Well, hefiled an anti slap motion against or in
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May just because yeah, okay,and that's gross. As guardian caretaker said
that her claims were that she consentedto the sexual relation. That's gross anti
slap. She should file an antislap against his anti slap. An antislap
motion is is what you file ifsomebody is suing you and you're a tiny
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party and then a big company issuing you for a free speech issue,
like you you want to tell yourstory, or you have an artistic endeavor
and they're coming down on you andthere and and you know how some companies
will use the courts and say weare so big, don't even try to
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fight us because you will go broke. Well, the law has evolved in
a way to protect small people tosay, Okay, you can tell me
that I'm going to go broke,but I'm going to file this anti slap
thing against you. And then nowyou have to prove that what I say
is not true, and then ifyou can't, then you have to pay
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my legal fees. So, butthat's a big guy who is attacking a
little guy, and the little guyuses the anti slap motion, so that
it's because it's a bridging their freespeech. In this case, Stephen Tyler
is suing her for an anti slap. He's just trying to cost her more
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money, and he's gross. AndI don't know why nobody cares. If
we had to care about this one, then we would have to care about
every band from that era. Guesswho cares about every band from that era?
Your host, Yeah, I careabout all of them. And if
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you're going to go after these Hollywoodpeople, you got to go after them.
The problem is there's no evidence.There's such bad evidence. This is
in nineteen seventy five of this newcase, this new case that got filed,
it's not very good. Nineteen seventyfive, she says she was pushed
into a phone booth and groped anddry humped and all that stuff. That's
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bad, and I feel sorry forit and I believe her, but there's
not enough evidence so that it willsurvive from that long ago, even though
she said the other band members werewatching. So it's hard to get justice.
You got to get justice right away. And if society won't give you
justice right away, but society willgive you justice later by changing the laws
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and saying the statute of limitations isnow going to be expanded. That is
it's not perfect, you know,because there's a balance that has to be
met of justice for the accused andjustice for the accuser. And that is
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not perfect even when you do itright away. But if you do it
fifty years later, forty five yearslater, do you think there's really no
age used? Because of just thefact that it was the era of sex,
drugs, and rock and roll,and they went like through a very
public like we need to walk awayfrom the industry for a good five to
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ten years because we are on waytoo many drugs and drinking too much.
They publicly went sober, and fora lot of the stuff that they did
throughout the eighties and nineties was withthis, with the perception that they were
no longer doing any of that debaucherousstuff. Yeah, admirable, you know,
and other people could learn from that. But fast forward, Why why
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are you further traumatizing this girl eventhough she's not a girl anymore, she's
she's a woman. Why are youfurther traumatizing her with an anti slat motion.
Yeah, no, I agree withyou. Now what you're gross?
You're gross. Then you're gross.Now make a settlement with her. And
even I go back to my BillCosby thing all Bill Cosby, he didn't
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call me, but he should have, and I would have said, if
I was Bill Cosby, I'm gonnatake all my money, one hundred percent
of my money, and I'm goingto give it to these victims, and
I'm going to live off social Security. And then it would have been over
and no one would be trying torun him down and prosecute him. What
was he hanging on to his money? What's he gonna do with his money
(38:29):
in jail when he's disgraced? Soif he gave it all away and lived
on social Security, you know whatwould happen? Would he would would social
Security be his only income at thatpoint? No, I don't think so
he'd work again. Yeah, Yeah, he'd spend the rest of his life
working and it would be forgiven andit would be a model to what other
people should do. And he didn'tdo that. And same thing, well,
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Harry Weinstein should have done. Youjust got to give it all away
and say, okay, what doyou want and give it all the way
and then start working. Harvey Weinsteinto be working, and they didn't do
it. You know, the samedisorder that forces you to, you know,
take a fifteen year old and shoverin a phone booth and or or
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get a guardianship and force you tohave abortion. These are the same disorders
that don't or drug people like BillCosby, the same disorders that don't allow
you to think clearly and called JoeSclante for advice. So too bad for
these people. But why is StevenTyler not being vilified? I don't know,
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but I do believe this case isnot very good. There you go,
the actor striking Sam. Do youhave any more comments on my self
righteous holier than now soapbox rants?Not at all. I actually, really
I agree with a lot of whatyou're saying. That it's imp important to
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believe the victims on stuff like this, and it is re traumatizing for them
to have to have a person likeSteven Tyler basically tell them, you know,
stop suing me. I'm invalidating allof your experiences and all of your
sadness. But it's been fifty years. It's hard to find the evidence to
stick. A lot of the peoplewho are witnesses may no longer be with
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us, but and having guardianship,the guardian ship saying well, this was
when we were doing a lot ofdrugs and stuff, so please forgive us.
We've changed our ways. And whereare the parents when the guardianship was
happening. Yeah, you know they'rethey're obviously they're you know, bad parents.
Or maybe the kid was such amess that that was the least worst
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option at the time. Maybe she'dbe dead, you know, she would
have been dead somewhere or killed herselfor something, So maybe it was the
least worst option. Okay, doesn'tsound like great parenting, but we in
this case, we don't. It'snot even like we don't have evidence.
The guy went out and guardianship withher so he can have sex with her
and bring her across state lines,so he convinced the parents to do something
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that society and who knows what heused money, you know, pressure,
whatever. He convinced them to dosomething that society has decided is disgusting.
And he did it anyway, Andso there is evidence on this one.
Now the other his new case.The lady's saying, ah, he traumatized
me in nineteen seventy five. That'sjust a terrible case. You know,
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that's a terrible case. I wishher luck and also with him. If
he remembers doing this, write hera check. Maybe she's down on her
luck and this is her last thingand she'll just go away. Write her
a check. If you did it, If you didn't do it, yeah,
it's another thing. But if you'rejust saying, hey, there's no
way, there's no proof, I'mnot going to do it, because you
might think it invites other people,and then all of a sudden, you
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got right, one thousand checks amonth. That could be a problem.
But in the Bill Cosby case,give them all your money and then you'll
work again. But I don't knowwhen he's going to work again. If
I see him judging American Idol orthe Masked Singer, you know, then
you know we've we've we've gone beyondthe point of no return with craziness.
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Okay, let's go to the writerstrike. The actors have received the best
and most final offer of the studioscan produce, and that's what they're mulling
over right now. We'll see whathappens. I mean, my dear Tuesday,
you could hear something changing Joe Ascalantelive from Hollywood, leaving you with
just a taste of greatest song everwritten. But there's always more.
Joe Ascolante Live from Hollywood. ByHollywood, you mean Burbank across the street
from a Wiener Schnitzer, a WienerSchnitzel that serves beer. It's it's appropriate
to pronounce that with the proper Germanbecause that is a proper German restaurant across
the street. Here they're having anotherSaley. You know what. They brought
back, the North Korean Fusion tacos, So everybody's excited about that. It's
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bigger than the McRib. I meanyou can see the like, can you
look out the window now and seethe lines out front of that Wiener Schnitzel.
It is packed all the way tothe what's it called the chick fil
A? The chick fil A?Yeah, I me and Chick fil A
is closed today, so it's itmight be a little bit of that.
People go into the Chick fil Aand then they see it's closed, and
they go over to that Wiener Schnitzel, get a beer and a North Korean
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Fusion taco. But we are hereto talk about the business end of show
business, and we do this everySunday from five to seven. I want
to add that we're the first peopleto ever do this. You know,
that's Sam. I've been doing thissince two thousand and six, the first
people to ever do a show onradio. Yes, but now there's like
(01:15):
one hundred of these in the podcastworld. They're all bigger and more successful
and make more money than mine.But you know what, you have to
be humbled to be before you canbe exalted. We're underground, So we
are underground. AM radio eleven fiftyon your AM dial. All right,
let's get to the show business.Box office pretty dismal, right now,
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going to a dismal period. Butin the theaters we have a few notable
things happening. Number one in themovie box office. What's your guess,
I have no idea. I havenot even gone downstairs. There's like I'm
guessing maybe no, Marvel's comes outnext week. I don't know, Oh
(02:00):
five nights at Freddy's. Ahah.Yeah. It was Halloween and all the
kids dragged their parents out to seeit, and then the parents were like
trying to cover their kids eyes throughoutthe most of it is that the word
on the street for that movie itwas it was actually like they made it
have like actual scary stuff. Itwas pretty realistic. Stuff from what I
understand, Well, it's done onehundred and thirteen million at the box office,
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and I'm sure they didn't spend thatmuch money on now maybe they did
not on AMC's Taylor Swift. TheI don't know why they call that AMC.
AMC is actually a distributor of distributorof the of the Taylor Swift movie.
That is one hundred and sixty fivetotal millions at the box office thirteen.
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So that's These are two old moviesthat are the number one and number
two, number three Killers of theFlower Moon, the worst movie ever made,
is now creeping up in the boxoffice rankings, but it was dropping
and number four and limited release Atwenty four's Priscilla, the story of Priscilla
Presley married to Elvis at like well, I don't know, fourteen or something
(03:07):
like that. So that's a salaciousstory. And it's they're billing it as
people are talking about it as thisis the stuff they didn't show you in
the Elvis movie. I heard it'sfantastic, only did about five million.
It's a as I said, Alimited release Number five at the in the
box office is a movie called Radical. Now this is like it's his story
(03:38):
about these sixth graders in Matamorris,Mexico, and I think it's some feel
good story. But that's doing prettywell. It's not playing at my theater.
Panteon Films is the studio they havelike a I think Panteon has a
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a pentellion. I think they havelike a streaming service with a bunch of
Spanish movies. Number six Exorcists TheBeliever. I still haven't seen it because
I can't see it with my wifeand she doesn't like these kinds of movies.
But I still will see it eventuallyafter death. Number seven is from
Angel Studios. Angel Studios who stunnedthe world with their Sounds of Freedom movie
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earlier in the year, and theykeep churning out more movies and they're making
money. This movie probably cost abouttwo million to make. It's a documentary
about near death experiences. Sam,have you ever had one of those?
Every morning when I wake up?Yes, hilarious, this is funny radio.
Well, it's done nine million atthe box office so far for a
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movie that probably costs two million.So another successful I mean these Christian movie
This is like in the Christian moviegenre, near death experiences. I'll talk
about a little more after I getdone with the top ten. We have
What Happens Later? Wait, PawPatrol, which you saw or you didn't
see, did not see? Mykid is a little too old for that
to think it's cool. Yeah,I heard from other parents. It's a
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good movie and it's doing well,very successful, sixty two million so far.
What Happens Later is a bleaker streetfilm directed by Meg Ryan or not
directed by Meg Ryan, or MegRyan's in it. Meg Ryan is in
it? When was she in anything? It's like welcome back to the to
(05:35):
the uh to the movie business likeis the story. She did direct it
and it's you know, it's arom com kind of thing with David Dukeveny.
Sounds about right. But when wasthe last movie? What was the
last movie she was in? It'sbeen a while. She was like the
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biggest female lead that you could havein any movie. Her and Tom Hanks
were like making magic everywhere they went, and then she fell off the earth.
Yeah, it's very strange, andshe probably went off and lived her
life. You know, she probablyshe wasn't in jail. I'm pretty sure,
I hope. So, So yeah, what Happens Later is number nine,
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Limited release Freelance number ten. It'slike a John Cena movie that's like
an action thing that's probably abysmal.But what did what did your host see?
Did you did the did the engineersee anything? Did you see anything?
Oh, you're the engineer. Thisis not engineer, actually, because
that's what it sounds like. Youdidn't see anything. You didn't even go
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downstairs. When you say downstairs,you mean the movie theater that you live
above. Yeah. No, Iavoided going downstairs pretty much for the whole
week. I was. I messedup my knee, so going anywhere was
pretty difficult. Okay, I'm sorryfor your pain. I saw something because
you know, I got to seesomething. Been very busy this week with
a lot of stuff that I'll talkabout later but not today, big things
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in the escalante world. But Isaw After Death from Angel Studios. I
was going there. I was gonnago see you went to the movies.
I was gonna go see. Ah, I forgot what I was going to
see. I was going to seesomething, you know, normal, and
then I go, you know what, I think? I think my wife
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and I will enjoy this after deathand better and it was very well made,
said documentary about people with near deathexperiences, so they interview them,
they reenact stuff. I like reenactmentsbecause I do that professionally for documentaries and
for my own shows. So thereenactments were top shelf and that helps a
lot. So you're watching cinema,you know, you're you're there's a reason
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to be in the theater, andthe story were compelling, and you know,
near death experiences are kind of like, well, you can explain it
a lot of ways, but thenwhen everyone has the same you're like start
to think, well, maybe thesethere's more to these if everyone's having the
same one. And then you mightthink, well, maybe there's like a
collective consciousness and people are hearing otherpeople's and then so they're you know,
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they're just dreaming. Are they justdreaming? But then people are able to
hover above their body in the operatingroom when they're pronounced dead and explain,
and when they come back, theytell people what was in what was happening
in the room, and things theycould not have known. Then you get
into the like you know, theparanormal realm or the mystical religious realm.
So it's you know, it's allbigger than all of us and very well
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made. And then they get intothe dark ones too. Not everybody goes
to heaven and sees a you know, a beautiful blonde Jesus. Sometimes it's
a dark experience and they come backfrom that. And so it's it's pretty
if you if you don't believe inan after life, and if you especially
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specifically Christianity, even though they don'treally mention Christianity hardly at all here.
It's just it's just, you knowwhat what happens to people. You won't
like this movie, and you mightbe like some people that are calling it
propaganda, but you know whatever Imean, Angel Studios there, they do
have a message. Hey, there'sthere's a life after death, so behave
yourself. Is that that's maybe themessage of that of that company. And
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some people don't like that there islife after death, behave your self message,
and we all know why they becausethey think that somebody is going to
tell them not to lead a debaucherylife or a pleasant life, and they're
gonna be someone's gonna give them abunch of rules. But in any case,
the Christians are making a lot ofmovies and they're making good movies and
they're making a ton of money.So people are taking notice. How much
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time we got. Should we takea break and check the traffic. Let's
take a bit of a break andcheck the traffic. All right, we
are now checking taking a break andchecking the traffic on Sclante Live from Hollywood,
Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood. Weare back and we are talking about
the business end of show business likewe do every Sunday. Here O K
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E I B eleven fifty on yourAM dial back to the movies. Here.
The the biggest movie in streaming rightnow, sam is None too anuin
two Yes monhat dose as it's knownin the Spanish speaking world. Uh,
(10:35):
it's it's it came to streaming sofar, so close to when it was
in the box office that that it'sit's uh. People are freaking about out
about that too. Forgot why.But anyway, speaking of streaming, Windows
and the Five Nights at Freddy's isstill killing at the box office. Number
(10:58):
one. It is also available onstreaming. So even though it's available on
streaming, people need to go seeit at the box office. That that's
what they're telling everybody. Nice,So it's good to see that finally,
people like if they have the optionto stay home, they're not, yes
exactly, And it seemed like therewas another like, you know, sort
of a COVID scare coming for awhile, but that I is it.
(11:22):
You're in a different world to me. I'm down here in Orange County.
You're up in la are you?Are you in that same sense? There
was a COVID scare and then itwent away, or you think it's still
going there was because everybody caught it, and then everybody got better. Everybody
realized that you don't really die fromit this kind now or very rare.
Well, I mean it's for example, my co parent had it. We
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both had it. I've had prettymild symptoms. She had to go to
the hospital. The difference was betweenhere now and how things were a couple
of years ago. They gave hera pill, so medication that knocked it
out within a comp day. Shewas fine, and I understand she had
a near death experience and she yeah, she re evaluated together for a little
(12:07):
bit. How did that work out? We survived. It was near death,
but we made it okay individually,Okay, Yeah, So people are
going out one thing I did well, I can recommend one more thing in
the entertainment world is oh my gosh. It seems like for a year my
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brother kept telling me, hey,you should watch you know, season four,
episode three of the Twilight Zone.It's a it's a one hour Twilight
Zone or even longer, I guessif you added commercials on it. But
it's total fifty the original series.Yes, it's a fifty one minute episode
of a Twilight Zone and it's calledValley of the Shadow reference to the Old
(12:56):
Testament there, Okay. He kepttelling me to watch it, and my
brother watches Twilight Zones over and over. He gets together with friends and they
watched like, you know, watchit together virtually online or whatever together,
you know, the these kind ofthings where people watch shows together while they're
on the phone with each other.I guess, so he does that.
(13:18):
He kept telling me, you gotto watch this thing, and I I
didn't get around to it. ButI have paramount plus, which is a
paramoun plus. If you have that, you have every Twilight Zone episode at
your disposal. Some people have themall on DVDs and you know, but
if you have paramount plus, they'rejust sitting there anytime you want them.
So I finally went and watched it. Sensational. So the episode is called
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Valley of the Shadow, and it'sabout a guy who comes into a small
town. Classic Twilight Zone type plot, goes into a small town and he's
got to get gassed and he's lost, and he ends up being stuck in
the town, and you know,it's a weird society of people that have
discovered peace and equality, but theyhave a secret that has been bestowed upon
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them that allows them to keep theirworld the way it is. And now
that he's seen it, they can'tlet him out because part of their bylaws
is knowing If any outsiders find outabout this, then you have to eliminate
them. They either have to joinyou and join the society, or you
have to eliminate them. And it'skind of one of those maybe it's an
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allegory or a I don't know theEnglish language that well, but the communism
versus Freedom movies and Twilight Zone episodesand that were made a lot in the
fifties, like High Noon is one. So do you choose this equal utopian
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paradise or do you choose which isyou know, maybe kills your inner soul
or do you choose freedom where peoplehave the freedom to kill each other and
commit evil and and that's a prettycommon theme in twilet zones and a lot
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of movies in the fifties. SoI recommend that the Valley of the Shadow,
I think it's season four, episodethree or twy the Zone. It's
like a movie because it's long.Okay, it's kind of like like maybe
The Black Panther. The Black Panthercomic book came out not too long after
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this episode came out, and that'slike a society that you know, has
discovered a peaceful way to live andthe outsiders aren't welcome and you either have
to assimilate or you have to leave. Kind of like the Prisoner little TV
show. Anyway, good one,interesting comparison. I like that. Yeah,
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So it's it's not a you know, it's not a new theme,
but it's an in it's and it'syou know, continues. Maybe Avatar.
Avatar is kind of like that youhave this wonderful society, but you have
to be blue, so you know, Okay. Also in the television world,
we have a little mini scandal thatpopped up this week. Sam,
(16:15):
You're gonna like this one. Intwenty twenty, the then president of Original
Programming, Casey Bloyse of HBO aniceto work for HBO just I mean,
who cares? But whatever, CaseyBloyse, he's still there, by the
(16:37):
way, now he's the CEO andchairman, but he was. He said
someone needed to go on a mission, and what they needed to do was
create basically fake Twitter accounts and goafter the TV critics. And he was
at first irked by a tweet froma Vulture TV critic, Catherine Van Aarandanc
(16:59):
who who had some thoughts on thePerry Mason HBO series and she thought it
was weak and blah blah blah,and she wrote, dear press to ch
TV, please find some way tocommunicate male trauma besides showing me a flashback
to the hero's memories of trench warfare. Okay, that's a fair criticism,
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you know, No, I'd actuallyagree with that. That is pretty fair.
A lot of the like, whenyou have flashbacks to you know,
what made a man a man,usually it flashes back to some kind of
military combat. Yeah, yeah,trench warfare, like classic, and it's
like you got nothing else? Isthat all you could come up and it
is I think it's fair. It'slike think for five minutes. You know,
(17:45):
you got all these writers in thewriter room. Let's have five minutes
and let's think of do we haveanything else besides trench warfare that this guy
might have gone through in his youth. And you know, let's me and
me brainstorm right now. Maybe wecan fix this. Like, Okay,
Catholic school, maybe a lot ofpeople traumatized by nuns hitting them. I've
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seen those in some movies. Butyeah, that's one we can run with.
Yeah, it's not very original.But and maybe he bullied in high
school. I've seen that one.Yeah, made fun of in high school.
But I guess after a while theystarted probably going through these and they're
like, well, maybe he's Jewishand they called them you know, and
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that's what happened in the Steven Spielbergmovie. It seemed a little try to
beat you over the head with hisand there you know, all these these
things that happened in the movies,they're always so black and white. Maybe
we got to think ahead, like, you know, instead of like looking
backwards and thinking this is what isusually you know, what we've already seen.
We got a look towards the futurewith like VR. Somebody raided virtually
(18:52):
raided my bank account and took allof my money. And now I got
get my revenge or something. Uhyeah, revenge point. But I mean,
if it's a flashback, I don'tknow how you look ahead, but
you know you're I mean, youhave to set further. Guess. So
he's a he's a lawyer and inhis you know, he went to law
school and it was traumatic because heh I don't know, maybe trench warfare
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is pretty good law school. Hewas pretty true too. I can see
that maybe he was on his wayto a camp for kids about to be
molested, and that's a Jesil Nickjoke. But anyway, well, anyways,
they didn't. When I first readthis story, igo, Well,
the story is about evil critics andone guy finally got back at him,
and now he's in trouble because theyfound out he was making it that they
(19:41):
he was hiring his assistant or somethingthat to make all these fake tweets to
hit back at the critic. Butnow that I read the story, I
think the critic was right. Sofirst I thought he was the fight in
the good fight. If he wantsto fight the good fight, go back
to the writer's room and say,come up with something besides trench warf because
we got called out on it.All right, let's go to break and
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we come back. Scarlett Johansson andher body are in the news Joe Ascalante
Live from Hollywood. We are backthe show business, the business end of
it, and let's let's go tothe intellectual property portion of the show,
where Scarlett Johansson has taken legal actionagainst an AI app that is using her
(20:26):
likeness. She is upset because therewas a twenty two second ad posted on
Twitter by an artificial intelligence imaging companycalled Lisa AI colon nineties yearbook and Avatar.
It's a pretty awkward name, butwhat happened on the app was that
(20:53):
they were using Obviously they're using herlikeness. She's mad and she's very aggressive.
Remember she went after did Disney ornot Disney HBO for Mourner Brothers for
not putting the movies out on theirservice instead of in the theaters and ignoring
the fact that she gets a bigbonus if it's in the theater. I
thought that was with Disney through Marvelyeah, oh yeah, Disney, I
(21:15):
mean, and then that's when andthen HBO just try to solve their problem.
They they just put everything on there. They'd had the same problem and
other other companies. Yeah, buthers was Yeah, Disney, thank you.
So in this ad twenty two seconds, it shows Scarlet Johanson, who
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we both love. We can agreeon that. In there behind the scenes
in the Black Widow movie, she'scomes up to some people and says,
what's up, guys. It's Scarlettand I want you to come with me,
before a graphic covers her mouth andthe screen transitions into AI generated photos
(22:00):
resemble her. A fake voice imitatingJohansson then continues to speak promoting the AI
app, and she says it's notlimited to avatars only. You can also
create images with texts and even yourAI videos. I think you shouldn't miss
it. Fine print under the adsays images produced by Lisa AI. So
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it's telling you that the app madethese images. They're not real. And
then it says in the warning ithas nothing to do with this person.
So that's they thought that was likea disclaimer so they could show her and
tell you this is what you cando by the way, this is not
(22:48):
her. We created this and ithas nothing to do with her. Trying
to say that she's like not endorsingthis project, but they don't really say
she's not endorsing this project. Theysay it has nothing to do with her.
You see how they're playing with wordsand they're trying to say like,
well, yeah, we said this. There's no words that they could say
that make this legal. I don'tthink do you think that's enough of a
(23:11):
disclaimer? I mean, what doyou think is this a free speech thing?
Like, how are you going totell people that you can make celebrity,
you can make celebrities do things ifyou can't show that they made celebrities
do things. Yeah, if Imean, if they're giving a disclaimer that
this isn't the real person, I'mguessing that might help a little. But
(23:32):
this is like new waters that peopleare treading legally. I don't know.
Yeah, I mean it might helpa little. They get to say,
well, hey, what are thedamages, because these kind of things are
all about damages. How many howmuch damages did she suffer? Well,
she suffered damages because people she's anendorser, She's a paid endorser of products,
(23:52):
or she at least has the abilityto do that it's a major part
of her income or could be,or the fact that she doesn't do that
boosts her box office and her credibility. That translates into money. So you're
costing her money either because she nowcannot endorse another company like this, or
she's saturated in the marketplace. Eitherway, it's not very hard to tell
(24:18):
a court that, like, look, this costs her a lot of money
because she's now saturated and people think, well, whoa, WHOA what people
think she's in she's being endorsable.We wrote that she's not endorsed by that,
that this has nothing to do withher, and that might go to
a jury, like one guy ina jury saying, hey, well,
you know what, they wrote this, so don't let's not throw the book
(24:41):
at them. So they're kind ofmanaging their risk here by writing these disclaimers,
hoping to make a splash, andthen they'll just say sorry, just
kidding and they'll stop doing it,which they have stopped, and now we're
talking about them. So maybe theygot what they wanted. But Scarlett Johanson
knows that, so she's not gonnalay down she's going to go after him,
(25:02):
and she's gonna get damages, andwe'll see what kind of damages she
gets. It'll be interesting. Okay. Now, in the celebrities behaving badly
genre, nobody behaves more badly thanrock star Steven Tyler of the rock band
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Aerosmith. I didn't like Aerosmith whenI was young because I knew in my
heart of hearts that when that guyputs down his microphone he's going to go
sexually harassed women and assault them.So you might say I predicted this by
my site. I predicted it witha lack of support for Aerosmith. And
(25:45):
we can all say Aerosmith's cool now, you know, because we go like,
hey, they're really cool. They'repart of this you know, eighties
rock thing, and you can gosee their concerts and be cool. And
their church t shirts are worth alot of money from the old days,
and everybody likes retro stuff. I'mnot buying into it. The band was
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awful then, The band's awful now. To me. This might have been
your world, this was not myworld. So I'm just not buying into
and and and part of it wasI didn't like their image. I don't
like that guy's image. Now thatguy. Have you seen him? I
have, yes, that guy,Like, you're a grown man. What
are you wearing on your fingers?Like these rings? You wear, these
(26:32):
scarfs, you wear this hair,You're a grown ass man. You get
up in the morning and you putthese rings on your finger, Like,
I'm gonna look great with these things. You haven't wanted to have one of
those scarves? You got me?You know me too well, Sam,
So you know something made me cringeand I knew it was going on.
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And I'll also something I also knewis like one day when the me too
movement moves into rock en Roll,it will explode because it's like, you
know, it's it's part of thegiven. These guys, this is what
they do and they're not, youknow, arguably, they don't have the
same education as Harvey Weinstein or lessmoon Vests or people that have been canceled.
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They are, you know, justdegenerates. That's the image they sell.
Look at me, I'm a badboy. Do you know what a
bad boy is saying? I've seena few. Yeah, you bad boy
does wonderful advantage, takes advantage ofyoung women. It's like number one.
(27:45):
That's a number of thing you dodo you're a bad you leave your house?
Whom I what woman am I goingto try to trick into having sex
with me? So that's the wholeimage. And I, you know,
I was wondering what would happen whenthey start getting into this and the there's
a lot of band members have beencanceled here and there, even the guy
from the band Anti Flag. AntiFlag is a big punk rock band that
(28:10):
was, you know, in thescene and playing and very political, hyper
political, just we are here tobring down the man, and we are
for women's rights and all the disadvantaged. And then some some women start coming
out, one after another after another, after another after another saying this singer
(28:32):
assaulted me. This was happening.I was giving tours at the Punk Rock
Museum, and while I'm giving tours, I'm like, over here is Anti
Flag. I was like, wait, where did it go? And then
people are running around the museum tearingdown the Anti Flag stuff. This is
in Las Vegas. If you haven'tbeen in the museum, it's amazing.
(28:52):
But they're tearing down, they're takingthe stuff out. When this came out,
and these are people that know,you know, people that know,
they knew it wasn't just wild accusations, they said, they checked it out.
They go, yeah, this isall true. The band broke up
the same day because they knew,and so they just started dismantling this stuff
right away. That's in the punkrock world. Punk rock world is not
(29:14):
selling bad boy images. That guywas, you know, his politics might
have been misguided, but he theywere you know, legitimate political campaigns that
he was running, and they wereand that's how kind of punk rock is.
Punk rock is not about this kindof bad boys stuff other than bad
(29:38):
boy to authority. But in theyou know, aerosmith world, you know,
that's what they're selling. And sofinal they caught up with Stephen Tyler.
You might have remembered a case recently, did you remember this one?
This woman named Miserly was her name? She Missley, Missley. She he
(30:00):
came out of the woodwork because StephenTyler, when she was sixteen or seventeen
persuaded, oh no, yeah,sixteen, persuaded her parents to sign over
the guardianship to her to him sohe can have sex with her without going
to jail and travel across state lineswith him without criminal prosecution. Did you
(30:22):
hear this story? I remember vaguelyof it, but yeah, the details
of it are pretty lurid. Yeah, and then forced her to persuade her
to get an abortion. So thisis in the monster category. And then
(30:44):
for some reason he's not, youknow, in jail or fully scorned.
And then another lady has come outnow with her. She was a model
in New York. Her name isJeane Bellino. This is the news she
has come out. Let's say,because we got to go to break okay,
so I'll tell you her claims whenwe come back. Joe Scalantate live
(31:04):
from Hollywood. Joe Joe Escalante Livefrom Hollywood. We are back the business
(31:32):
end of show business. K eIB eleven fifty on your AM dial every
Sunday from five to seven pm.Unless we're preempted by a NFL game.
Then here's what you do. Goto the podcast. We're going to record
a podcast show anyway, and thisshow will become a podcast later. People
always ask me, do you havea podcast? I got I don't have
a radio show. Some guy namedSam turns it into a podcast, so
(31:56):
I guess I have a podcast.And sometimes it's just a podcast. But
today we're live on the radio fortwo hours from five to seven. We're
talking about Steven Tyler and the latestcase against him. This one's not as
bad as the other one. Thisone is a girl that he definitely assaulted.
She was seventeen years old and he'sgross but he uh, it seems
(32:25):
like they didn't have sex, buthe, you know, groped her,
grinded her, dry hump whatever,all this kind of stuff. And she
then he tried to get her togo up into his hotel room and she
finally got away. So her nameis Billino. Billino. She's just a
(32:52):
one named person in my mind now, Jean Bellino. So Jean Bellino.
She alleges in a New York ina New York lawsuits. She actually filed
the lawsuit in nineteen seventy five.She's seventeen years old. Steelen Tyler assaulted
her. Now Stephen Tyler is stillout there going to grammy things, and
(33:13):
I don't know how he's getting awaywith it. After you convince some family
to I'm like, maybe Elvis didthe same thing, but Elvis is gone,
okay, and he probably thought Elvisdid this. Jerry Lee Luis that's
what I was thinking. The nameJerry Lee Lewis did this, I'm going
(33:35):
to do this, but it's stillit's still gross. And I don't know
what's going on with I apologize forthis. I don't know what's going on
with Miss Lee's claim and where thatended, the one that she that he,
you know, persuaded to have theabortion and had the he had the
guardianship over her. Well, hefiled an anti slap motion against or in
(34:00):
May just because yeah, okay,and that's gross. As guardian caretaker said
that her claims were that she consentedto the sexual relation. That's gross anti
slap. She should file an antislap against his anti slap. An antislap
motion is is what you file ifsomebody is suing you and you're a tiny
(34:22):
party and then a big company issuing you for a free speech issue,
like you you want to tell yourstory, or you have an artistic endeavor
and they're coming down on you andthere and and you know how some companies
will use the courts and say weare so big, don't even try to
(34:45):
fight us because you will go broke. Well, the law has evolved in
a way to protect small people tosay, Okay, you can tell me
that I'm going to go broke,but I'm going to file this anti slap
thing against you. And then nowyou have to prove that what I say
is not true, and then ifyou can't, then you have to pay
(35:10):
my legal fees. So, butthat's a big guy who is attacking a
little guy, and the little guyuses the anti slap motion, so that
it's because it's a bridging their freespeech. In this case, Stephen Tyler
is suing her for an anti slap. He's just trying to cost her more
(35:30):
money, and he's gross. AndI don't know why nobody cares. If
we had to care about this one, then we would have to care about
every band from that era. Guesswho cares about every band from that era?
Your host, Yeah, I careabout all of them. And if
(35:52):
you're going to go after these Hollywoodpeople, you got to go after them.
The problem is there's no evidence.There's such bad evidence. This is
in nineteen seventy five of this newcase, this new case that got filed,
it's not very good. Nineteen seventyfive, she says she was pushed
into a phone booth and groped anddry humped and all that stuff. That's
(36:14):
bad, and I feel sorry forit and I believe her, but there's
not enough evidence so that it willsurvive from that long ago, even though
she said the other band members werewatching. So it's hard to get justice.
You got to get justice right away. And if society won't give you
justice right away, but society willgive you justice later by changing the laws
(36:38):
and saying the statute of limitations isnow going to be expanded. That is
it's not perfect, you know,because there's a balance that has to be
met of justice for the accused andjustice for the accuser. And that is
(36:59):
not perfect even when you do itright away. But if you do it
fifty years later, forty five yearslater, do you think there's really no
age used? Because of just thefact that it was the era of sex,
drugs, and rock and roll,and they went like through a very
public like we need to walk awayfrom the industry for a good five to
(37:19):
ten years because we are on waytoo many drugs and drinking too much.
They publicly went sober, and fora lot of the stuff that they did
throughout the eighties and nineties was withthis, with the perception that they were
no longer doing any of that debaucherousstuff. Yeah, admirable, you know,
and other people could learn from that. But fast forward, Why why
(37:45):
are you further traumatizing this girl eventhough she's not a girl anymore, she's
she's a woman. Why are youfurther traumatizing her with an anti slat motion.
Yeah, no, I agree withyou. Now what you're gross?
You're gross. Then you're gross.Now make a settlement with her. And
even I go back to my BillCosby thing all Bill Cosby, he didn't
(38:07):
call me, but he should have, and I would have said, if
I was Bill Cosby, I'm gonnatake all my money, one hundred percent
of my money, and I'm goingto give it to these victims, and
I'm going to live off social Security. And then it would have been over
and no one would be trying torun him down and prosecute him. What
was he hanging on to his money? What's he gonna do with his money
(38:29):
in jail when he's disgraced? Soif he gave it all away and lived
on social Security, you know whatwould happen? Would he would would social
Security be his only income at thatpoint? No, I don't think so
he'd work again. Yeah, Yeah, he'd spend the rest of his life
working and it would be forgiven andit would be a model to what other
people should do. And he didn'tdo that. And same thing, well,
(38:52):
Harry Weinstein should have done. Youjust got to give it all away
and say, okay, what doyou want and give it all the way
and then start working. Harvey Weinsteinto be working, and they didn't do
it. You know, the samedisorder that forces you to, you know,
take a fifteen year old and shoverin a phone booth and or or
(39:12):
get a guardianship and force you tohave abortion. These are the same disorders
that don't or drug people like BillCosby, the same disorders that don't allow
you to think clearly and called JoeSclante for advice. So too bad for
these people. But why is StevenTyler not being vilified? I don't know,
(39:39):
but I do believe this case isnot very good. There you go,
the actor striking Sam. Do youhave any more comments on my self
righteous holier than now soapbox rants?Not at all. I actually, really
I agree with a lot of whatyou're saying. That it's imp important to
(40:00):
believe the victims on stuff like this, and it is re traumatizing for them
to have to have a person likeSteven Tyler basically tell them, you know,
stop suing me. I'm invalidating allof your experiences and all of your
sadness. But it's been fifty years. It's hard to find the evidence to
stick. A lot of the peoplewho are witnesses may no longer be with
(40:21):
us, but and having guardianship,the guardian ship saying well, this was
when we were doing a lot ofdrugs and stuff, so please forgive us.
We've changed our ways. And whereare the parents when the guardianship was
happening. Yeah, you know they'rethey're obviously they're you know, bad parents.
Or maybe the kid was such amess that that was the least worst
(40:44):
option at the time. Maybe she'dbe dead, you know, she would
have been dead somewhere or killed herselfor something, So maybe it was the
least worst option. Okay, doesn'tsound like great parenting, but we in
this case, we don't. It'snot even like we don't have evidence.
The guy went out and guardianship withher so he can have sex with her
and bring her across state lines,so he convinced the parents to do something
(41:07):
that society and who knows what heused money, you know, pressure,
whatever. He convinced them to dosomething that society has decided is disgusting.
And he did it anyway, Andso there is evidence on this one.
Now the other his new case.The lady's saying, ah, he traumatized
me in nineteen seventy five. That'sjust a terrible case. You know,
(41:29):
that's a terrible case. I wishher luck and also with him. If
he remembers doing this, write hera check. Maybe she's down on her
luck and this is her last thingand she'll just go away. Write her
a check. If you did it, If you didn't do it, yeah,
it's another thing. But if you'rejust saying, hey, there's no
way, there's no proof, I'mnot going to do it, because you
might think it invites other people,and then all of a sudden, you
(41:51):
got right, one thousand checks amonth. That could be a problem.
But in the Bill Cosby case,give them all your money and then you'll
work again. But I don't knowwhen he's going to work again. If
I see him judging American Idol orthe Masked Singer, you know, then
you know we've we've we've gone beyondthe point of no return with craziness.
(42:14):
Okay, let's go to the writerstrike. The actors have received the best
and most final offer of the studioscan produce, and that's what they're mulling
over right now. We'll see whathappens. I mean, my dear Tuesday,
you could hear something changing Joe Ascalantelive from Hollywood, leaving you with
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