July 6, 2025 • 59 mins
Joe Escalante's weekly dip into the business end of showbix. This week: Joe called it weeks ago!!! Diddy gets off with what, in some states, is a misdemeanor. That's what happens when lawyers reach for charges that they'll have a hard time proving. The solution for Diddy, according to Joe... GIVE ALL YOUR MONEY AWAY. Give it to charities supporting the kind of people he's victimized, and rebuild his empire after that. But does anyone listen to Joe??? If they aren't, they should!
Also, the latest from the box office, Jurassic World: Rebirth is #1!!!
Minu v Menon. Two Enter, one leaves.
Also, the latest from the box office, Jurassic World: Rebirth is #1!!!
Minu v Menon. Two Enter, one leaves.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And now it's time for Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood.
If by Hollywood you mean Burbite across the street promo meaners.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's little.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Let's serve beer.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good evening. We have a gem of a show for
you tonight, and we will dig into the week's headlines
from the business and legal side of show business. We
do this every Sunday here on k e IB eleven
fifty on your AM dial as you're driving around LA
or you're tinkering in your car, or if you're the
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kind of person wants to listen to the show on
a podcast. It'll be up a little bit after the
show tonight. Sam will take care of that, won't you. Sam.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I certainly hope I remember, all right, No, of course
I'll have it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You don't remember.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Sometimes I post it, then you have to hit the
publish button at that when you're done. And sometimes I'm
just I skipped that part. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Believe me, I hear it from my legion of fans.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Legions. They need to be sending me the message so
I could get on it a little faster. But I
will make sure it gets up and running tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, thank you, Hey, let's go before we get to
the box office and stuff like that, which we're certainly
going to talk about because there is all kinds of
stuff going on today the show, As I said, it's
a gem tonight. Sam, You're in the right place at
the right time. What do we got going on? We've
got paramount CBS settlement on that big story. We've got
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Sean Diddy trial, also a new lawsuit against sports agent
Jonathan Barnett. I don't know if you know if he's
on your radar, Sam, sometimes called the greatest sports agent,
the most powerful sports agent alive, and now he's looks
like he's toasted Lululemon versus Costco. We got. Later on,
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we'll celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of the film Jaws and
the New York Times Best Films of the twenty first century, Sam,
And it's only twenty five years, but they've already got
one hundred films that they're trying to push down our throats.
But let's start with the puff daddy stuff. While I
pat myself on the back for my glorious prediction, Sam.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Your puffy do your puffy stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I'm gonna puff my own horn here.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You I mean, seriously, you kind of called it because
a lot of the charges were stuff that we had
discussed on here. They were kind of reaching yes a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And it concluded this week with a mixed verdict. On Wednesday, Tuesday,
they said, the jury came in and said we can't
we're hung on these other charges. We only have the
traffic prostitution across state lines thing. And the judge like,
you got to get back in there. So they went
back in there, and the jury, is a federal case
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in federal court, found Calmbs guilty on two counts of
transfirtation to engage in prostitution, which falls under the federal
man at that's pretty minor. That's like that could be
a misdemeanor, I think in some cases. But in a
significant development this week, the jury acquitted him of the
(03:17):
more serious charges of racketeering, conspiracy, and sex trafficking. That's
good for him because he would have had to go
it'd be years of sex traffic school that they would
have sent him to. These charges could have carried a
much longer and potentially a life prison sentence. Combs was
denied bail. This is the big news too. I mean,
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they only got him on that one charge, but they
denied him bail, so he will remain in custody while
awaiting sentencing, which is tentatively set for October third. I'm
you know what.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I'm thinking, Sam, What are you thinking on this.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
One Halloween freak off?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yes, legal team is pushing for an earlier day to
get him the hell out of there. Each of the
prostitution related accounts he was convicted on carries a maximum
sentence of ten years, So we'll see if the judge
hates him or not when he decides whether he's going
to give him the minimum of the maximum. From a
business perspective, despite the acquittals on the most severe charges,
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which I did predict right here on the show, the
trial and the ongoing allegations have already had a substantial
impact on his empire. Brands have severed ties. Ceremonial key
to the City of New York was revoked. Sam.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Did they change the lock?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I think they changed it every day and then he's
not in. He no longer has the code, and his
public image, of course, has been severely damaged. I mean
that's why people thought they could go to court. They
thought he was going down, so they thought they could
testify against him without fear of reprisal. But now that
he'll be out walking the streets not too long, I
predict those people should run and hide. And his music
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catalog reportedly means intact for now. The sheer volume of
the pending civil lawsuits filed against him by multiple accusers
alleging various forms of abuse and misconduct continue to be
a major legal and financial challenge for the music mogul. Well,
I'll tell you, I mean, it's in the criminal realm,
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it's a victory, but it's fight in the civil courts
and for his reputation and show business is far from over.
I mean, that's a lot of one hundred million dollars
lawsuits and the videos. And then in the civil lawsuits,
as we know from the OJ case, you can lose
and they can fail to convict you in the criminal
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courts where you have to have a unanimous verdict, but
the jury in the civil case it's just a I
think it has to be like it's different in each state,
but it's usually like you know, hey, you got to
have fifty or more or nine out of twelve or whatever,
And I don't know what it is in federal court
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for a civil case, but there could be state cases.
There's state claims they could they can have against them.
So he's going to be paying a lot of money.
And if he listens to me, unlike Bill Cosby did not,
unlike Harvey Weinstein. This is my advice for Puffy if
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you're on his team, donate one hundred percent of your
money to a woman's cause and come clean and say
I am sorry, I'm a new man. Did you hear
that I said one hundred percent?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, every penny.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Every penny you have, sell all your houses donated him
some cause, go on Oprah, apologize. But here's what you
don't do. Don't give away your income streams like you could,
because no one will. No one will pay attention. If
you've given away one hundred percent of your money that's
in the bank and all you'r and selling all your houses,
you can get away with keeping the royalty streams that
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come because they come every you know, min or whatever.
I just got a guy a two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars advance from a performance rights society, just like
we needed some money for this guy. Go ahead and
get some money so you could get that money. So
all you have to do is give away all your money,
one hundred percent of your of your real estate, and
then say, okay, I have nothing. I throw myself on
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the mercy of the public. I apologize on the Oprah
Winfrey television show, which I which is huge or nonexistent,
but something something like that. You know, you go with
the Prince Harry and Megan Markle and you confess to
that I don't know, you apologize to somebody.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You apologize to anybody, Yeah, on a camera.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, and you prove that you've given away all your stuff.
Now you go to record label X and say, what
will you give me for a of the rights to
my next six records? What do you think a number
like that would be?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Well, I'm not sure if he's the perform he's the
guy that's the mogul he proved.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, but whatever he brings in, okay, whatever he has
his name on it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah. I think if anything, he should also say that, like, uh,
I can go. I'll go to these companies and say, hey,
these next six albums, these next artists that I helped produce.
I'll even keep the money off of or keep my
name off of it.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But then they might not want that because it might
not sell. So you got it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Because he name still Yes, you do, because he just apologized.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
We're all square now. Okay, he has nothing, so he
comes hat in hand to a record label and he says,
how much will you give me for my next ten records?
Six records, ten records?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And they go tell you what, I'll give you twenty
million bucks for them. Okay, do you think he can
live on twenty million dollars?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I would certainly hope.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So yeah, and now he's working. Now his name is
not mud anymore because he gave all that money away
to these women shelters. He apologized, he gave away everything,
and then he went and got a little bit more,
even if he had to give away his world. He's
you can do it on twenty million dollars and you're
working now. Now. Once you're working, you can, you can.
You can start an empire, you could, you can invest
(09:09):
in a Jolly Be chain or something like that. Yeah.
If you like Filipino fast food, and who doesn't, that
stuff's a gold mine. Okay, So that's that's what he
should do. We'll have to uh wait and see what
he actually does do. Yeah, puffy do or puffy don't.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He may make a mean Olympia.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I'm telling you, fried foods driving. I'm tired too. Yeah,
jolly b bring.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It rights itself. This this happy ending.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
See that's the thing. He won't do it, but that
is a good way to at least create enough public,
enough positive public stream of energy for you so that
you can actually go.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And you want to work, Yeah, everybody wants to work.
You want to feel important. Yeah, you don't want to
be tainted. You want to be a guy who gave
away the most money ever given away to something or whatever.
Write the book on Mayacolpa's.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Is he a billionaire?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He was, probably.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm sure he's got over a billion in the bank.
If he does that, then yeah, yeah, and he gives
it all to women's causes.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yea, all the houses, everything, you're gonna be living in
a rented apartment. That tell you get this big advance
from your next thing.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That money can go to provide for battered women's shelters
all across the country.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
All across the country, I would say, even Alaska, Hawaii. Yeah,
I'm not limiting it to the continental United States, Puerto Rico,
Puerto Rico too, Yeah, yeah, American Samoa, that's right, Guam, Guam. Oh,
the American Virgin Islands. M sure, why not? Okay Greenland?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Not the British Virgin Islands.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
No, No, we don't know. They're not playing there. Yeah,
but I'm saying, what about Greenland? Give it a couple
of years, Give it a couple of years. Okay, Greenland,
you could be on the list. Okay. So if Bill
Cosby would have done that.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
He'd be working, yeah, without question.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
If Harvey Weinstein would have done that, he'd be working.
If less Moonvest would have done that, he'd be working.
And all these people want to do is just work,
you know, and they all can get millions. All right,
let's take a break and check the traffic around Los Angeles.
Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. Joe, What's Goalante? Live from Hollywood?
If why Hollywood? You mean where bank? Hey, Sam, let's
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get to the box office. This weekend is a very
special weekend because we had July fourth, fifth, and sixth
on Friday, Saturday Sunday, which only happens once every forty
million years. Yeah, So how did how did they do?
How did Hollywood do well. I call it a much
needed shot in the arm for the box office, primarily
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thanks to Jurassic World Rebirth. Sam, Have you heard of
this nube entry into the marketplace?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Not only have I heard of it, I'm going to
see it tonight with my daughter and the seven to
eleven up the block is all decked out in Jurassic
World gear.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I don't think I've ever seen so much promotion for
one single movie, like from all different angles, like every
it could be a Roto Router commercially're watching. They got
to tie in everybody's getting in the act.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
The last time I saw seven to eleven really like
rework itself like to the level that the one here
in Burbank did was when the Simpsons turned them all
the quickie marks.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I remember the Simpsons won. Yes, pac Man, I believe
had a pretty good seven to eleven collab. I got
a T shirt out of it. Thank you so. Jurassic
World Rebirth absolutely dominated Roaring Sam to an estimated well,
I'm just gonna call it like one hundred and forty
five one hundred and forty seven million for its opening
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a couple of days now. It met its expectations. That's
what I always try to look for. Did it meet expectations?
What were people thinking that was going to make? So
it met the expectations, and the critics are they're so
so on it. Yeah, but at least despite the critics,
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at least it shows you that if you have, you know,
big names and a big, big, blockbuster style production, you
can still make money.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh yeah, marketing goes a long way. And I mean
it's Jurassic Park, Jurassic World. That's like a legacy now
at this point. It's a legacy franchise at this point.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah. Although let me just give you my just some
of my thoughts that I have on it. For me,
it was it wasn't just another dinosaur movie. I did
see it, so I'm just gonna talk about it right now.
I did see it, and it's number one. It wasn't
just another a dinosaur movie. I hadn't seen the prior ones.
I'm not really drawn to these things, Like I saw
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the first one and the second one. I believe there
were some others. Yeah, people are telling me, But I
thought it was it was kind of a clever blend
of everything that I love about action adventure movies and thrillers.
That I could that I that I could put together,
like if I really had to make a list of things,
I like, I think it ticked all the boxes. Had
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this like kind of part Indiana Jones, these like covert
missions and mysterious islands, and then the dinosaurs start to appear,
and then it gets to this intense kind of I
was thinking Jaws at some point in this movie. I'm like, Wow,
this is just a lot like Johs And we'll talk
about Jaws later. And then this, you know, the sheer
scale of this uncharted island and the feeling of this
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navigating this vast, dangerous new world. Then I started thinking, like,
you know, they on a mission. It's Lord of the Rings.
I mean, they're throwing all these blockbusters into one movie.
Then there's this creepy kind of Doctor Moreau Island of
Doctor Moreau vibe going on because they're they're mixing, they're
breeding different kinds of dinosaurs and it's not going well.
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So they had to abandon this island because there's got
some mistakes there. And then the characters start navigating on
a river raft and I'm like, it's the Land of
the Lost. You've got dinosaurs, you got family, you got
a raft, you got Land of the Lost, but unlike
the last Land of the Lost movie, this was not terrible,
so pretty fun. And then they had something in it
(15:12):
Sam called the distortis Rex, the distortive the what distortis Rex?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Distortess Rex.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, the distortest Rex is a combo between like one
of these breeding failures they had. So it was like
a little bit of an elephant man. I tell you
this is tell me when you see it. This is
this is an elephant man reference. I'm thinking, yeah, when
you see it. And for the record, this might just
be the only big movie I've seen recently that did
not have Pedro Pascalin.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You know, he's in everything right now. He's like that
hot sauce that that everybody puts on everything that he
that stuff goes on everything everything.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, well I think I'll tell you why, because he
ticks the box for diversity. But he also looks like
a leading man that any ethnicity. They had a mystery
ethnicity so that you're taken out of the like kind
of thing where if you're from Alabama, you're like, while
the hall is that superhero black. I'm not want to
stereotype people from Alabama. But you know, you don't get
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into that. While the hell is that Mexican the president
of the United States? When was that? When did that happen? Here?
Did that happen? That ain't gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Breaks their immersion, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It does breaks their immersions sometimes. So with with Pedro Pascal,
you want him in your movie because the theaters, I
mean the studios are going, hey, where's there a diverse?
You know, you need somebody recast one of these people.
So you get that guy and you get a great actor.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
He comes across as extremely authentic. Yes, so it's really
hard to hate on a guy who's that authentic.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, he's a winner, but he could overdo it and
become a little overexposed. So if you're watching, if you're
listening to me, Pedro Pascal, I have some advice for you.
Number one, give away all your money right now.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Give it to me.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Please give it to everybody, anybody, just me Thespians. I
could use it too, Okay, okay, So number two at
the box office F one, the movie talked about this
a little bit ago, but I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I heard surprisingly it's doing well.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, in the second week and across the one hundred
million domestic mark. And this is a clear win for
Apple because you know, they are known for putting a
lot of money into studios that don't into movies that
don't make profits. But now they have this, you know, ambitious,
big blockbuster action film with big stars, and they're making
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money and they might make their money back for once.
How to Train Your Dragon is there at number three.
It's still going. It's kind of like a quiet, family
friendly animated option for everybody out there, and it's making
it's making money. It's a I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
My daughter wants to see that one too. We compromise
and said Jurassic World.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, okay, yeah I can't. And they've got a couple
other holdovers like L e O and twenty eight years
Later doing pretty good. But Ello, it seems I think
it's only made like forty something million.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
It feels like a move a seventy five to Something's
disconnected in that movie. Something feels like you could tell
that it had something solid going. And I know some
people who actually worked on the film, and I'm like,
you could tell that they had something, but something just
something was missing.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I have advice for your friends that worked on Leo
if you want to give it to them for me unsolicited,
give away all your money. Yes, you'll be forgiven. You'll
be forgiven after this twenty eight years later. Number five,
Lelo and Lilo with Lelo, Lelo and Stitch, Lelo and
(18:47):
Stitch four hundred and eight million. Right, No one's going
to catch that anytime soon. And think about the merchandise
for Lelo and Stitch everybody. I've been to Disneyland recently
and everybody is picking up a Leelo and Stitch thing.
So just take that four hundred and eight million and
multiply it. There's a lot of money there. All right.
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We'll get back to the box office after this on
Joe' Scalante Live from Hollywood, Joe Scolante all of the time.
All right, it is the business end of Hollywood, every
Sunday on k e IB eleven fifty on your am diile. Okay,
let's go back to the box office because we're not done.
(19:31):
And then we're also not done with movies that I saw.
So Jurassic Park works really well. I loved it. I
give it four stars on my letterbox, and usually I
just don't like this kind of movies. But this guy,
I think, where did this guy come the director did
some like what was he? Where did this Where did
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this director come from? Mark Flanagan? No, No, that's the
other movie I did this guy. Now I have too
many notes.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Directed by Gareth Edwards.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, okay, so he was on Godzilla twenty fourteen and
Rogue one Star Wars thing and you know, I.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Know one was outstanding.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, but I'm not usually like, it's not enough to
drive me to go see a movie directed by this guy.
But he was. It was really good. And David kap
a guy who who he wrote it with, wrote the
original Jurassic Part Ooh interesting, and he knew who was
great in it in his back after a long absence
of being lame not great on my list anyway, Scarlett Johanson,
(20:43):
really she plays that. She's the star of the movie,
and she's great. She's got uh she's a great actress,
and she can do action. She's believable as a you know,
situational security and reaction specialist. I think that's what you
called herself. Anyway, you said, think she is awesome, and
then I started to drop off the the Johansson train.
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And now I think I'm back on it all right.
It's kind of cool noises we got going on in
my headphones. So I don't know if the if the
audience is getting these, but they're they're they're very Japanese.
Uh subway okay, so this Uh, I don't I don't
think this is a No. I'm not gonna there's too
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many spoiler alerts that I could do about this movie,
so I'm just gonna move on.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I thank you because I'm going to see it tonight.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, Okay. Then I saw another movie, Sam, Did you
know that?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Which one?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I saw a movie called The Life of Chuck.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Life of Chuck.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, the Life of Chuck Sam Chuck who well they
don't really tell you his last name, I don't think.
But this is an adaptation of a Stephen King novella.
Really yeah, and it's in limited release. Didn't make that
much money, but uh, I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's in limited release. I'm guessing they're not really concerned
with how much it's going to pull in.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I mean they will actually, I mean they said it went.
It came out like June sixth, then it expanded nationwide
on June thirteenth, But it was hard for me to
see it. I saw in Denver at a little weird,
funky theater. Oh wait, did I say Denver, I meant
Salt Lake City. Uh, it's pretty good. It's Stephen King
(22:28):
novella called If It Bleeds. It's a very dramatic emotional story.
Sounds gruesome some it's not haunted. It's not like it's
not scary. It's not one of those. It's more like
the stand by me version of us. That that's because
that's Stephen. It's in the Shawshanks stand by Me Vein,
not not the It or whatever or the other scary movies. Shining.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Is that on his misery Shining?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, it's nothing. It's not even the most scary of
it all is his political rants. Those are frightening. So
it's like critics are really loving it. They call it
a life affirming masterpiece and a stunning celebration of the
moments that make life worth living. I think that's kind
of sums it up there. A stunning celebration. Well, I
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don't know if it's stunning, but it is a celebration
of the moments that make life worth living, and it's
kind of like a non chronological thing, which bugs a
lot of people, like my father in law. He can't
stand this. The movie starts at the end. This one
starts in act three. Oh, the guy's name is Krantz.
Last name Chuck Krantz. Because you were asking thank you.
(23:40):
So Act three is at the beginning, and you got
some apocalypse kind of thing going on, and then Act
two jumps back to show him as a kid or
he likes dancing. Now, if you have a kid, Sam
that likes to dance, there are any of your kids
to look like they're going into the competitive dance world
or anything like that, and.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Not anytime soon. They enjoy dancing. They're not good at it.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay, if your kid's good, because sometimes your kid can
be really good, and then he gets recruited into a
dance world and then he gets beat up on Monday
after the you know, but i'd say take your.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Kid like you got served kind of thing beat up,
you know, like.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
If you're okay. But put it this way. My cousins
own a dance competition and it's it's ninety nine percent girls,
and then then they have a category for boys, and
do you know what the trophy is? If you're the
top boy in this competition.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Ah what.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Mister petit, mister petit, that's what they They crown you,
mister petit.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
So on Monday when you tell your friends you're you're
mister petite.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
How emasculated?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, you end up in the trash can.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So anyway, if your kid is mister petite or on
his way, take him to see this movie. This makes
you know, going into the dance lessons and all that
stuff makes it really cool. It's a side thing, a
side plot really that this kid is into dancing. It's
pretty cool. And there's some like really good dance like
seeing like, uh, la is that Eli was? That was
(25:07):
that movie with Ryan Gosling and where they're dancing all
the time and it's Los Angeles La Something. It's not
Eli's story because that's that's Steve Martin.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
L A something woman, yea.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
L a woman and his girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That was. That was a fun movie.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
It's a great movie. Okay, uh nothing worse than a
guy in the radio that doesn't know what he's talking about. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I still we've kind of reached the get off my
lawn stage of our lives. So all we have to
do is just point in the direction of the thing
and the people get it.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You know the thing, you know the thing? Okay? Anyway,
uh Life of Chuck good movie directed by a guy
named Mike Flanagan who's done other some of the horror adaptations,
adaptations of Stephen King's works. And the guy who plays
the lead, Tom Hiddleston, don't know him, but he can dance.
(26:08):
Mark Hamill shows up.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Tom hitdleson. Yeah, that's a loki.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh loki.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Okay, that makes it. Yeah, he's outstanding.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, he's got some dance moves. Oh yeah, So he's
the star. And Mark Hamill shows up somewhere. Narrated by
the beluffed Nick Offerman.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Excellent.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah. Yeah. So I went to the Toronto Film Festival.
Everybody loved it, won the Piece of People's Choice award.
But as I said, the it's only made six million
dollars so far. It's been out for but it's a
limited release at that five weeks. Well, you know, it
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was in nine hundred theaters.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You would hope that there would be more, but there's
very little. I mean, you're going up against a Jurassic
world where it's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And Jurassic World Rebirth, Yeah, thank You, which is in
four thy three hundred screens, so you can't. But I
recommend this movie.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
But it sounds great, it's.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Good, it's good. What else say I see? Well, I'll
tell you what I saw. I saw something on Netflix.
Every once in while, I'll throw a Netflix movie out here.
I try to encourage people to go to the movie theater,
but I watch a few Netflix movies. I saw a
movie called My Mom Jane, I deeply personal and of
course emotional documentary that aims to tell the story of
Hollywood icon Jane Mansfield from a unique and intimate perspective
(27:35):
that of her daughter, Sam Law and Order SVU star
Marishka Hargitay. So she's Jane Mansfield's daughter. She did not
publicize it, she did not rely on it to get
her career going. And I remember because when I was
at CBS, they would cast her in all kinds of
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things and I had to make deals with her agent,
and then I had to get her to sign a
few things, and I didn't know she was Jane Mansfield's
daughter right in front of me. Who knew? But she
doesn't look like Jane Mansfield. She doesn't a few of
us do. So she had no personal memories of her mother.
But as you know, her mother was struck down in
(28:16):
the prime of her life in a automobile accident and
this little baby girl was in the car at the
same time. So she ended up no parents and then
tossed around to relatives and I guess her uh, her
legal father was still alive, so he was around Argeta
(28:39):
Mickey hargitay.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But there. This is the reason why you want to
watch this, because Jane Mansfield is a fascinating individual, like
a bombshell from the fifties, and that's interesting enough to
hear her many loves. One of them I met my
friend's dad. I'm not gonna say which one, but she was.
(29:04):
That's enough. But then the family mystery start unfolding and
you're not prepared for the revelations.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Wait, there's a family mystery. Yeah, uh Jane, Jane Mansfield
and Mariska HARGATEA and I think I said that correctly. Okay,
now I'm intrigued.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Well, the movie. The movie is about how she never
knew her mother, but her mother was a blonde bombshell.
Then Mariska hargate is a modern movement a feminist. Maybe yeah,
And she said, my mother, poor dear, had to make
her living on sex appeal and around all these horny men,
and the only way she could get jobs was to
be sexy in front of a bunch of horny men,
or around a bunch of horny men. Do the math.
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And she just thought it was a something she didn't
want to identify with. She felt sorry for her mom,
and she didn't want to be like that. She wanted
to promote it, but she never knew her release does
never really memory. She's very very very very little when
the car accident happened. But even with the books that
she didn't read, but all the information available about Jane Mansfield,
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she had no idea what she was going to find out.
I'll just leave it right there.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Wow, Okay, I'm I'm hooked.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
We'll check the traffic and we'll come back with more.
Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. Joe Scolante Live from Hollywood.
It's by Hollywood, you mean burd Bank. It was just
two hours of the business, end of show business every
Sunday on k EIB eleven fifty on your AM dial.
There's a couple other Netflix are streaming things that that
(30:34):
I watched this year, But I understand this week, I understand, Sam,
you watched something I did.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I caught a show on Netflix's I guess it's our show.
It's kind of a documentary.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Series, yeah, anthology.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, train Wrecked, and it was I watched the Poop
Cruise episode.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Now I'm interested because I saw that. It seems like
they released a bunch of them at once.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It sounds like what happened on the ship.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, but you went straight for the Poop Cruise.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, it was up there on on Netflix. It just
popped up on the first thing you know, suggested for
you watch people defecate, because.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
For me it said like Mayor of Mayhem was the
one that wanted me to watch. Okay, and you had
said poop Cruise.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, okay, yeah, you know check the algorithm. Yeah, but
it was fascinating.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Is a quality documentary? Do you feel like you've you've
seen more than then you've seen you know already, because
I've seen a lot of footage of the Poop Cruise.
I've seen some segments done on it. Yeah, well I
need to watch this.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, I think it's interesting. It's worth watching just because
you get to see kind of a Lord of the
Flies kind of energy takeover a cruise ship where everybody's
supposed to be feeling great on good terms. They have casinos,
they have all kinds of fun stuff, and then you
slowly get to see just how much like we are
willing to debase ourselves when as soon as there's any
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kind of conflict or any kind of something that we have,
any kind of adversity, Like people.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Are like, I smell fear. I'm taking your stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I smell poop.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
You don't smell fear. There's no way you can smell
fear with all this poop around here.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
No, it was overwhelming just watching it. If I'm glad
we didn't have smell a vision.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
That's another one of those promises that they said we
would have.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
You would think. Do you know how many things I'm
disappointed about that they promised in the fifties that they're
just that they said that we would that it would
just be a basic part of our lives nowadays, And
we seriously a lot of the goals that we set,
the lofty goals that we set for ourselves, we just
fell fell far short.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
That the scretching sniffs that's true.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
That's true. And with AI we may be that much
closer to more future episodes of Lancelot Link.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Oh yes, yeah you can. Yeah, you don't need really,
you don't need a torture chimpanzees to.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yes, we don't need to due anymore. We can actually
make a season two of Lancelot Link.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
All right, speaking of things that could use, and may
I I was Steven Spielberg, I would be. I just
like when, like, really you're gonna show as a twenty
fifth anniversary of Jaws is coming up significant mousecone for
a cinematic classic and a groundbreaking film, but this horror thriller.
(33:16):
I think it ages everywhere very well, except for when
they show the shark. Yeah, the shark is terrible.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
So if I was heying my beat, like please don't
show that in four k oh, wait, you're gonna have
an IMAX version of No no, no no no, we
don't really need that and maybe an AI. Maybe what
we need is just to cut in some better sharks,
or maybe this is the charm. Now I think we
need new sharks. So to commemorate this half century mark,
(33:47):
Universal Pictures is bringing Jaws back to theaters. Nationwide. Sam
Special screenings are scheduled to begin on August twenty ninth,
when summer is just about over, presenting the film in
various formats, including four K, Imax and Real D three D.
I wonder if that was a deal with the Summer
(34:07):
with the Amity or Martha's Vineyardburg was filmed, like, Hey,
we'll help you out with this, but can you wait
till summer is just about over. We don't need a
shark scare midsummer or at the beginning of the summer.
How about August twenty ninth. School's been in session for
twenty eight days by then, and I don't know why
the kids don't revolt with this August first start of
(34:30):
their school year.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, that's too early. We didn't start until the beginning
of September.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, September fifteenth. I'm in school. Get I'm in until
June fifteenth. Beyond the theatrical re release, a new fifteenth
anniversary home media edition will be available in four K,
Ultra HD and Blu ray, which includes an accompanying documentary
from National Geographic titled Jaws at fifty The Definitive Inside Story,
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Thank You. Additionally, Martha's Vineyard, the film's primary shooting location,
slated to host various commemorative events, exhibitions, and fun gatherings
throughout the year. Comprehensive celebration highlights the enduring cultural impact
sam in cinematic legacy of Jobs five decades after its
(35:18):
original release. City officials just ask that everyone please bring
your passports or other identification if you will, or you
will be thrown into the water. That's a message from
the Martha's Vineyard people.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I'm a big fan of the movie, and really it's underrated.
As great as it is, it's still underrated because of
how influential it's been on filmmaking ever since then. And
you're right, the mechanical Shark is like that's the one
part where it just doesn't stand up to the test
of time and.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
It didn't work. Like when they're filming it, all the
stories are it just did not work, and they didn't
you got this one piece of technology. It's so pivotal.
It doesn't work, like it won't turn left, it'll only
turn right, or it was all kind the stories about
what a fail it was. But they had it to
shoot and shoot and shoot, and hopefully they could cut
it together and they did.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Now, the thing that the influential part of the movie
is the way that they made reference to Jaws throughout
the movie, but you never actually saw the shark until
the very end. So it built the tension and the
drama of this the specter of this horrifying figure, and
it really I mean, obviously mechanically it didn't pay off
(36:31):
the way people would have liked. But I've seen other movies,
horror films and thrillers where they make mention of it,
and they even have it in video games where they
make mention of the villain throughout the entire progress of
the film, and it's this big bad thing that you
don't see until the very last point, and the tension
(36:51):
just gets built up perfectly up to that point, like
jos exactly like Jaws. Yeah, that's the thing that's that
is the influence of Jaws. You see the ripple effect
of that everywhere.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I saw it on Friday, fourth of July. I think
it's a good Fourth of July movie. And I also
saw it at the Cinerama Dome in nineteen seventy five
when it debuted. Wow, and I was I may I
remember it like it was yesterday. Because my dad took
me in the family. And back then I'm twelve, I'm
(37:23):
picking all the movies. I'm saying, we're seeing Jaws. So
I picked the movie, pick the theater we go, and
the first scene, the girl takes her clothes off and
starts running into the water, and I'm like, Okay, this
is starting out pretty good. And then someone in the theater.
It's all quiet, though, because you know something's gonna happen.
The tension is already there. You know she's gonna die
of a shark attack. And she's running into the water,
(37:45):
and some guy yells out the sharp don't eat her
our wheel and I'm like, what the heck, Hey dad,
how do you eat? Like, how does that even work?
What did he mean by that? And why did everybody laugh?
I was only twelve.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
That's cute.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It's a true story. I probably told it on the
show five or six times. I did see something on
in the series category. I don't know if I can
recommend it, Sam, what's that torn? In this one? It's
called stick Owen Wilson Stick. Yeah, it's got a lot
of really cool things in it, like golf. Owen Wilson
(38:26):
is a down on his luck pro golfer, So you're thinking, hey,
happy Gilmore, caddy shack this kind of humor. Yeah, it
has it, it has it, but then definitely just to
be playing, there's over. They forced in all these woke
(38:49):
things to make it woke, but then they also made
fun of the woke stuff here and there, so I
think they're trying to balance that. And but I think
if for most golfers it was too much woke, like
you don't want to see this, And then for most
woke people who they care about golf, you know, it's
(39:11):
not their sport. I think there was so but they tried,
and they tried, and there was some uneven riding in it.
It would get really good for five minutes and then
it'll get really bad for twenty minutes. And so I
don't know if I could recommend it. If you really
like Owen Wilson, go ahead. I don't know why. His
(39:32):
nose is really weird and his hair is really weird.
His hair is like he has a woman's hair.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I always liked his brother a little better, but I mean,
I'm basing that off of very.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I think they're both geniuses. Yeah, but it's I don't
know I don't know. I shouldn't. I shouldn't really talk
about his nose.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Wilson too, he was great in Royal, Tennant, Bombs and
a bunch of movies. He's been fantastic. But that's a
very talented brother duo.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
What about Zulander?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Zuelander was great, hilarious.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
So do I recommend it? It's on Apple, you know
what I like about it? Apple will spend more money
than you've ever heard of in your life on the music.
So every song that comes on is a classic. There's
no deep cuts. It just they just keep the hits,
(40:19):
keep coming, really well known, expensive songs. It just sounds
so expensive, to the point where I heard a Minor
Threat song in there now. Minor Threat is a band
like probably the number one band of the punk rock
movement that kept their credibility from Washington, d C. Their
(40:44):
singer went on to form a band called Fugazi, and
that band is even more like credibility and Ian McKay.
This is his name, Brian Baker, the guitar player now
in bad religion, but so much credibility. They wouldn't sell
T shirts. Fugazi don't sell t shirts, only five dollars shows.
(41:08):
I'm going to say they got at least three hundred
grand for this song placement maybe more. Good for them.
Nobody even knows that Fugazi song was on. That couldn't tell.
It was only on for like ten seconds till I
blew it and told everybody it wasn't forgot it was
a minor threat song, but it sounded great. It was
the right song for the right time and significant. So
(41:28):
that's a I guess the best thing about stick. All right,
let's take a break. Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. More coming up,
Joe Ascalante Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean
burd Bank. This is two hours of the business end
of show business. We're in the second hour now. Sam
(41:48):
Yes said, couldn't be done, but we did it. We
talked about movies in the first hour. We went back
to the I'm just going to give you recap if
he didn't get the first time number one movie in
America formula in the movie haven't seen it but no sorry,
Jurassic World did see it. Number two didn't see it,
(42:12):
Jurassic Work. And then we talked a little bit about
Life of Chuck. I don't know. It was kind of fun.
And now here we are in the second hour where
I'm going to lead off with a story that you
probably heard and is a little confusing to people. But
it was the CBS settlement. Did you hear about this? Sam?
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I was reading about it here in the notes. I
hadn't heard of it before because I'm not that big
of a nerd.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Good for you, good answer. Paramount Global, the parent company
of CBS where I spent most of my professional career
before I jumped out and became an entrep maneur, has
reportedly agreed to a substantial settlement stemming from a lawsuit
filed by present sident Donald Trump, president filing lawsuits. The
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lawsuit centers on a sixty minutes interview when then Vice
president Kamala Harris that aired ahead of the twenty twenty
four presidential election. Do you remember that one, Sam?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah? Yeah. Well, Trump's legal team alleged that the interview
was deceptively edited to favor Harris, thereby using the public
airwaves to conduct election interference. Sam. While CBS in Paramount
maintained that their editing was standard journalistic practice to make
(43:36):
a someone that said something dumb sound smart, they ultimately
chose to settle the case. The settlement is reported to
be around sixteen million dollars, which will be allocated to president.
This is the worst for them. This is the it's
not the sixteen million dollars, but they have to donate
it part of the deal. They have to donate it
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directly to the president ump future presidential library, and to
legal fees, rather than paid directly to him. Paramount also
did not issue an apology as part of the agreement.
But they change their practices now sixty Minutes has agreed
to a new policy. They will now promptly release full,
(44:20):
unedited transcripts of interviews with future presidential candidates. This move
has been internally controversial because the people, the people that
work there are like, why why would you give that
guy who sixty million dollars? I mean six They all
hate him, and you're giving him sixteen million dollars. And
then I went in and asked for a raise and
you said, no, you have to give the president sixteen
(44:41):
million dollars who doesn't need it. So some of them quit.
So yeah, some of them are citing, of course First
Amendment issues. Seeing scholars express concerns like just this chill
free speech a concession like this. Paramount executive stated that
settlement allows them to avoid unpredictable legal costs and distractions,
(45:06):
especially as the company pursues a major merger with Guidance
Media that requires federal approval. So the cynics are saying,
they just gave him sixteen million dollars so they could
get their deal approved. Yeah, give the guy the money.
He's the guy. He's in charge of whether we have
this merger or not.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
It's a shakedown and they got it.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yes, But you know, it is the public airwaves, and
if you're using the public airwaves, this is what people
don't understand. Sometimes. CBS is a private company, but they
lease the public airwaves. And when you lease the public airwaves,
you get your granted a monopoly on that spectrum. If
you have a monopoly on that spectrum, you have to
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be impartial. If right before a presidential election, you have
someone come on the air and says things that are damaging,
she had a reputation at that time that she wasn't smart,
and then see they ask her questions, she has really
bad answers, So they edit it together to make them
look really good. Are you using the airwaves in a
(46:11):
neutral manner, or are you doing it to favor the
candidate you want? And is that election interference? The CBS
did not want to find out in the higher courts,
and they wanted to get their merger done, so they
gave the sixteen million.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I just assumed everybody did that.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, that's fair. But
but if it's public, then you're the public, and they're
over there doing everything they can to get their guy
elected using your airwaves. Are you mad? Are you happy?
Are you? Ah? That's okay. I'll do something else. I'll
stuff the ballot box because that's what's going to happen
after that. They go, if you're doing that, I'm going
(46:52):
to do this. And then if you do that and
my guy doesn't win, I might go into the Capitol
building and sippy on a desk with a Viking horn,
and then you know, it's mayhem. So they got to
be careful, and they thought they could get away with
it because everybody does it. Like you said, it's just normal.
You see. You know, since Walter Cronkite, these people are lefties.
(47:14):
They're gonna attack a Republican president every single time. I
remember when President Nixon died and that guy came on
the air from CBS and he says, disgrace the president,
former President Richard Nixon passed away. I'm like, whoa, you
got to do that right after he dies?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, come ahead, it's not necessary.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
But and you're using the public airwaves. I mean, people
expect it to be neutral and impartial, you know, disgraced.
Was he disgraced? Not to some people back then it
was probably like five percent of the people. He was
not disgraced. After listening to my episode about the Watergate
break in being a the Watergate hearings having a major
flaw on them. I don't know if you heard that episode, Sam,
(47:58):
because I was in reading these guys directly that wrote
the book about the Watergate trial, and there was now
that this guy went in and looked for all the
evidence that was hidden of the Freedom of Information Act,
and he found out that one of the witnesses for
against President Nixon was meeting secretly with the judge the
(48:19):
in the hearings, and so Nixon never shood a chance.
So I'm just saying, when the guy dies, if you're
the caretaker of the public air waves, you got to
be more neutral, and they already paid ABC already paid
a bunch of money to Donald Trump as well for
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something that could be described as election interference. And of
course Donald Trump all kinds of election interference has been
accused against him. But this is what happens, Like, we
started doing this and then it comes back. Never once
(49:01):
did these people think, Hey, if we do this, it
might happen to us. But what if we're what if
we're not in the White House and there's another guy
in the White House and he does the same thing
to us that we're doing him. Not one, not once,
did anyone ever consider that. And now the guy's doing
to them what they did to him. If it went
to the Supreme Court, what would happen any idea, Sam.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
H It's completely political six to.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Three in favor of the president.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
It's just going to go right down party lines.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Six to three in frav of the president. So they
don't want to go there. So that's another reason why
they had to settle. It would and you know how
long it would take to get there, oh years. Yeah,
First they have to get a decision in a lower court.
Then that lower then everybody's got to pay several more
million dollars to get it to an appellate court, and
then they get it to the appellate court, and then
they spend millions of dollars to get it prepared to
go to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
And he was what sixteen million? Yeah, chomp chair change
nowadays a little bit, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just it's
like here you it's but here's what you do. You pay,
You pay off a little bit of money for protection.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, you pay him, but you pay them, and you
change your policy so it doesn't happen again, and you
fire whoever did it. I mean, you pay them. But
then now okay, so now you're not going to do
it again. So now now you understand what the public
airwaves are and you're not gonna do it anymore. Or
did you just chill free speech? So now nobody can
absolutely you know that's the problem. Okay, Well that's uh,
(50:36):
there's two sides of that story. Joe's Scalante Live from
Hollywood back after the traffic. Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. If
by Hollywood you mean Burbank got it, I think you
got it. Okay, Sam, you said something at the end
of that case. That was prophetic. You said, Uh, these
(51:00):
people are engaging in law. Fair, but there's a difference
between getting sued or going to jail, right, yeah, Okay,
Well recently in India.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Wow, taking us across on the others. Meanwhile, in Bombay.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
A case involving the Malaysian film industry which dates back
to twenty twenty four. This case does the Malaysian film
industry actually only dates back to January of this year,
stems from the social media post allegedly made by actor
Minu Munir. Okay, now there's an actor, director Balachandra Menon.
(51:45):
He thought this postparts infammatory and harmful to his reputation. Okay.
The dispute reportedly involves Munir making serious allegations of misconduct
against Menan and other industry figures. Actor. This is where
it gets good. Actor Minu Mounir was granted bail on
(52:05):
July first, after being arrested in the defamation case filed
by actor director Balachandra.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Mean On Munir versus me non.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yes, and he and he filed these defamation claim and
they went and arrested him.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Oh wow, Yeah that's India. Why I mean, I didn't
know Bally would be balin' well Gandhi. I mean, I
haven't seen that movie because it's far too long. But
I thought he was a man of peace, and I
thought that I thought they were adopting that that world
over there.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
No no, no, no, no versus me. No, we need
to kpe our eyes on this one.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yes, so he's he's granted bail and so he's not
in jail anymore for for making a post that that
made serious allegation of misconduct against me. Not there's defamatory,
allegedly defamatory and harmful to his reputation.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
So defamatory he went to jail.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Yeah. Wow, it was his singer, Like.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
What he said was that unlawfully awful?
Speaker 2 (53:16):
It was you've heard of a sick burmo. This was
a plague of a burm.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
This was a curry burn.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
I didn't I wasn't gonna get racist. But since you
started delicious.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Okay, I love It's my It's one of my favorite cuisines.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I like ty curry, but Indian curry no time for it. Oh.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I love Indian curry. It's the best. Ty Curry is
great too, but I prefer Indian curry.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
So there's been a few defamation cases in the news
this week. I might as well go there now, right,
But the deformation stuff, I love defamation. I mean I
don't like it, but you know, I like doing these
stories on it. It's very illustrative because people are always
saying they're going to sue someone for saying something. Yeah,
I'm going to assue you. You said that or you
wrote this, I will sue you, and then you listen
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to the show so he can find out whether to
let it go or to sue them. Ninety nine percent
of the time, let it go. Care's a prominent one.
It's notable development involving the long running legal battle between
hip hop superstars Drake and Kendrick Lamar ooh. This week,
(54:24):
a federal judge heard arguments in New York regarding this
defamation suit filed by Drake against Universal Music is label
in the label for both artists. So while this puff
Daddy stuff was going on, Drake and Kendrick Lamar were
going out in court. As you remember, the lawsuit alleges
(54:44):
that Lamar's disk track not Like Us, which was produced
and promoted by Universal, falsely accused Drake of serious criminal
acts it's what the suit says, including that he is
a sex offender.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
O yes.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Universal is arguing that the lyrics fall under protected trash
talking in the context of rap battles, while Drake's team
argues that it goes beyond hyperbole and has caused real harm,
including attempted break ins at his home. He's got evidence,
he's bringing receipts for the harm. People are breaking into
his house because they think he's a pedophile. This case
(55:22):
highlights the complex make people want to stay away. Well,
I mean these are vigilantes, you know, so, I mean
you're following this so right now, the news this week
is that they they're hearing arguments and it's going it's ongoing. Now.
(55:45):
If he says you're a pedophile, it makes people spit
on the ground, right, Yes, so, Kendrick Lamar said, accused
Drake of being a pedophile in his song like Us.
Is that true? Is that true?
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Okay, it makes people spit on the ground. Yes, Okay,
that's the one prom what's the second proms to be
has to be not true? Yeah, it has to be
not true. So if they go to court, they got
established this it's not true. Now if he brings evidence
that Drake had an underage girlfriend. Drake is toast. Do
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you think Drake ever had an underage girlfriend? Do you think?
Let me better? Do you think they could march someone
into court that said they had a relationship with Drake
if they really had to.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
I'm sure that they would have found a way to
settle out of court if they didn't have at least
enough evidence.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
So you think that person doesn't exist or I'm not.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
I don't know. I can't say. I just know that whoever.
I know that lawyers will do whatever it is necessary
as far as getting the information they need and whether
or not they testify or not or is a different story.
But I've so.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
I'm just saying that's one thing that he could do
that Lamar could do to get out of it. And
then it wouldn't satisfy the prongs because it would be true.
You could say, Hey, you know what, you had a
fifteen year old girlfriend. You took this girl backstage, took
hercross straight lines, violated the Man Act, all this or whatever,
and she's going to come in and testify and guess
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what she gets to testify with her face blurred out
or behind the screen because she's so young and it's traumatic.
So then they lose it because then it's true if
he's dating a young girl. Or let's say it's not
true and he establishes it's not true. But then we
go to the hurdle. You got two prongs and a
hurdle with the defamation case. The hurdle is he's a
(57:46):
public figure, so you have to show actual malice. An
actual malice would be something that was extremely negligent that
you knew would cause harm, and you knew it was false,
and you like maybe to knock him off the charts
could be could be grounds for and malice. Maybe all
(58:09):
this is is for the tryer effect. The jury is
going to be, you know, this guy's going to say this,
the other guy's going to say that, and the jury
is going to come back and say, what do you
think they would say if this went all the way
free speech, artistic expression, or do you think this is
speech that must be punished? And what about the new
(58:30):
legal doctrine that this person the universal is making up
called it falls under the protected trash talking in the
context of rap battles that I forgot which amendment that
is to the Constitution?
Speaker 1 (58:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
I got you stumped, Tom.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Yeah, because it's it's it's a rap battle. It's trash talking.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
If you they are not according to the white man
on the Supreme Court, that.
Speaker 1 (58:54):
Means he's he lost. Drake lost, that's it.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
He lost the rap battle, that's for sure. Joe Ascalante
live from Hollywood. More coming up. M m mm hmm.
And now it's time for Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood.
If by Hollywood you mean Burbite across the street promo meaners.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's little.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Let's serve beer.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good evening. We have a gem of a show for
you tonight, and we will dig into the week's headlines
from the business and legal side of show business. We
do this every Sunday here on k e IB eleven
fifty on your AM dial as you're driving around LA
or you're tinkering in your car, or if you're the
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kind of person wants to listen to the show on
a podcast. It'll be up a little bit after the
show tonight. Sam will take care of that, won't you. Sam.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I certainly hope I remember, all right, No, of course
I'll have it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You don't remember.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Sometimes I post it, then you have to hit the
publish button at that when you're done. And sometimes I'm
just I skipped that part. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Believe me, I hear it from my legion of fans.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Legions. They need to be sending me the message so
I could get on it a little faster. But I
will make sure it gets up and running tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, thank you, Hey, let's go before we get to
the box office and stuff like that, which we're certainly
going to talk about because there is all kinds of
stuff going on today the show, As I said, it's
a gem tonight. Sam, You're in the right place at
the right time. What do we got going on? We've
got paramount CBS settlement on that big story. We've got
(01:39):
Sean Diddy trial, also a new lawsuit against sports agent
Jonathan Barnett. I don't know if you know if he's
on your radar, Sam, sometimes called the greatest sports agent,
the most powerful sports agent alive, and now he's looks
like he's toasted Lululemon versus Costco. We got. Later on,
(01:59):
we'll celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of the film Jaws and
the New York Times Best Films of the twenty first century, Sam,
And it's only twenty five years, but they've already got
one hundred films that they're trying to push down our throats.
But let's start with the puff daddy stuff. While I
pat myself on the back for my glorious prediction, Sam.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Your puffy do your puffy stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I'm gonna puff my own horn here.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You I mean, seriously, you kind of called it because
a lot of the charges were stuff that we had
discussed on here. They were kind of reaching yes a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And it concluded this week with a mixed verdict. On Wednesday, Tuesday,
they said, the jury came in and said we can't
we're hung on these other charges. We only have the
traffic prostitution across state lines thing. And the judge like,
you got to get back in there. So they went
back in there, and the jury, is a federal case
(02:56):
in federal court, found Calmbs guilty on two counts of
transfirtation to engage in prostitution, which falls under the federal
man at that's pretty minor. That's like that could be
a misdemeanor, I think in some cases. But in a
significant development this week, the jury acquitted him of the
(03:17):
more serious charges of racketeering, conspiracy, and sex trafficking. That's
good for him because he would have had to go
it'd be years of sex traffic school that they would
have sent him to. These charges could have carried a
much longer and potentially a life prison sentence. Combs was
denied bail. This is the big news too. I mean,
(03:37):
they only got him on that one charge, but they
denied him bail, so he will remain in custody while
awaiting sentencing, which is tentatively set for October third. I'm
you know what.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I'm thinking, Sam, What are you thinking on this.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
One Halloween freak off?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yes, legal team is pushing for an earlier day to
get him the hell out of there. Each of the
prostitution related accounts he was convicted on carries a maximum
sentence of ten years, So we'll see if the judge
hates him or not when he decides whether he's going
to give him the minimum of the maximum. From a
business perspective, despite the acquittals on the most severe charges,
(04:16):
which I did predict right here on the show, the
trial and the ongoing allegations have already had a substantial
impact on his empire. Brands have severed ties. Ceremonial key
to the City of New York was revoked. Sam.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Did they change the lock?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I think they changed it every day and then he's
not in. He no longer has the code, and his
public image, of course, has been severely damaged. I mean
that's why people thought they could go to court. They
thought he was going down, so they thought they could
testify against him without fear of reprisal. But now that
he'll be out walking the streets not too long, I
predict those people should run and hide. And his music
(04:58):
catalog reportedly means intact for now. The sheer volume of
the pending civil lawsuits filed against him by multiple accusers
alleging various forms of abuse and misconduct continue to be
a major legal and financial challenge for the music mogul. Well,
I'll tell you, I mean, it's in the criminal realm,
(05:19):
it's a victory, but it's fight in the civil courts
and for his reputation and show business is far from over.
I mean, that's a lot of one hundred million dollars
lawsuits and the videos. And then in the civil lawsuits,
as we know from the OJ case, you can lose
and they can fail to convict you in the criminal
(05:39):
courts where you have to have a unanimous verdict, but
the jury in the civil case it's just a I
think it has to be like it's different in each state,
but it's usually like you know, hey, you got to
have fifty or more or nine out of twelve or whatever,
And I don't know what it is in federal court
(06:01):
for a civil case, but there could be state cases.
There's state claims they could they can have against them.
So he's going to be paying a lot of money.
And if he listens to me, unlike Bill Cosby did not,
unlike Harvey Weinstein. This is my advice for Puffy if
(06:21):
you're on his team, donate one hundred percent of your
money to a woman's cause and come clean and say
I am sorry, I'm a new man. Did you hear
that I said one hundred percent?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, every penny.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Every penny you have, sell all your houses donated him
some cause, go on Oprah, apologize. But here's what you
don't do. Don't give away your income streams like you could,
because no one will. No one will pay attention. If
you've given away one hundred percent of your money that's
in the bank and all you'r and selling all your houses,
you can get away with keeping the royalty streams that
(06:58):
come because they come every you know, min or whatever.
I just got a guy a two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars advance from a performance rights society, just like
we needed some money for this guy. Go ahead and
get some money so you could get that money. So
all you have to do is give away all your money,
one hundred percent of your of your real estate, and
then say, okay, I have nothing. I throw myself on
(07:20):
the mercy of the public. I apologize on the Oprah
Winfrey television show, which I which is huge or nonexistent,
but something something like that. You know, you go with
the Prince Harry and Megan Markle and you confess to
that I don't know, you apologize to somebody.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You apologize to anybody, Yeah, on a camera.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, and you prove that you've given away all your stuff.
Now you go to record label X and say, what
will you give me for a of the rights to
my next six records? What do you think a number
like that would be?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Well, I'm not sure if he's the perform he's the
guy that's the mogul he proved.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, but whatever he brings in, okay, whatever he has
his name on it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah. I think if anything, he should also say that, like, uh,
I can go. I'll go to these companies and say, hey,
these next six albums, these next artists that I helped produce.
I'll even keep the money off of or keep my
name off of it.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But then they might not want that because it might
not sell. So you got it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Because he name still Yes, you do, because he just apologized.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
We're all square now. Okay, he has nothing, so he
comes hat in hand to a record label and he says,
how much will you give me for my next ten records?
Six records, ten records?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And they go tell you what, I'll give you twenty
million bucks for them. Okay, do you think he can
live on twenty million dollars?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I would certainly hope.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So yeah, and now he's working. Now his name is
not mud anymore because he gave all that money away
to these women shelters. He apologized, he gave away everything,
and then he went and got a little bit more,
even if he had to give away his world. He's
you can do it on twenty million dollars and you're
working now. Now. Once you're working, you can, you can.
You can start an empire, you could, you can invest
(09:09):
in a Jolly Be chain or something like that. Yeah.
If you like Filipino fast food, and who doesn't, that
stuff's a gold mine. Okay, So that's that's what he
should do. We'll have to uh wait and see what
he actually does do. Yeah, puffy do or puffy don't.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He may make a mean Olympia.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I'm telling you, fried foods driving. I'm tired too. Yeah,
jolly b bring.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It rights itself. This this happy ending.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
See that's the thing. He won't do it, but that
is a good way to at least create enough public,
enough positive public stream of energy for you so that
you can actually go.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And you want to work, Yeah, everybody wants to work.
You want to feel important. Yeah, you don't want to
be tainted. You want to be a guy who gave
away the most money ever given away to something or whatever.
Write the book on Mayacolpa's.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Is he a billionaire?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He was, probably.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm sure he's got over a billion in the bank.
If he does that, then yeah, yeah, and he gives
it all to women's causes.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yea, all the houses, everything, you're gonna be living in
a rented apartment. That tell you get this big advance
from your next thing.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That money can go to provide for battered women's shelters
all across the country.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
All across the country, I would say, even Alaska, Hawaii. Yeah,
I'm not limiting it to the continental United States, Puerto Rico,
Puerto Rico too, Yeah, yeah, American Samoa, that's right, Guam, Guam. Oh,
the American Virgin Islands. M sure, why not? Okay Greenland?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Not the British Virgin Islands.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
No, No, we don't know. They're not playing there. Yeah,
but I'm saying, what about Greenland? Give it a couple
of years, Give it a couple of years. Okay, Greenland,
you could be on the list. Okay. So if Bill
Cosby would have done that.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
He'd be working, yeah, without question.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
If Harvey Weinstein would have done that, he'd be working.
If less Moonvest would have done that, he'd be working.
And all these people want to do is just work,
you know, and they all can get millions. All right,
let's take a break and check the traffic around Los Angeles.
Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. Joe, What's Goalante? Live from Hollywood?
If why Hollywood? You mean where bank? Hey, Sam, let's
(11:20):
get to the box office. This weekend is a very
special weekend because we had July fourth, fifth, and sixth
on Friday, Saturday Sunday, which only happens once every forty
million years. Yeah, So how did how did they do?
How did Hollywood do well. I call it a much
needed shot in the arm for the box office, primarily
(11:43):
thanks to Jurassic World Rebirth. Sam, Have you heard of
this nube entry into the marketplace?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Not only have I heard of it, I'm going to
see it tonight with my daughter and the seven to
eleven up the block is all decked out in Jurassic
World gear.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I don't think I've ever seen so much promotion for
one single movie, like from all different angles, like every
it could be a Roto Router commercially're watching. They got
to tie in everybody's getting in the act.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
The last time I saw seven to eleven really like
rework itself like to the level that the one here
in Burbank did was when the Simpsons turned them all
the quickie marks.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I remember the Simpsons won. Yes, pac Man, I believe
had a pretty good seven to eleven collab. I got
a T shirt out of it. Thank you so. Jurassic
World Rebirth absolutely dominated Roaring Sam to an estimated well,
I'm just gonna call it like one hundred and forty
five one hundred and forty seven million for its opening
(12:39):
a couple of days now. It met its expectations. That's
what I always try to look for. Did it meet expectations?
What were people thinking that was going to make? So
it met the expectations, and the critics are they're so
so on it. Yeah, but at least despite the critics,
(13:00):
at least it shows you that if you have, you know,
big names and a big, big, blockbuster style production, you
can still make money.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh yeah, marketing goes a long way. And I mean
it's Jurassic Park, Jurassic World. That's like a legacy now
at this point. It's a legacy franchise at this point.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah. Although let me just give you my just some
of my thoughts that I have on it. For me,
it was it wasn't just another dinosaur movie. I did
see it, so I'm just gonna talk about it right now.
I did see it, and it's number one. It wasn't
just another a dinosaur movie. I hadn't seen the prior ones.
I'm not really drawn to these things, Like I saw
(13:45):
the first one and the second one. I believe there
were some others. Yeah, people are telling me, But I
thought it was it was kind of a clever blend
of everything that I love about action adventure movies and thrillers.
That I could that I that I could put together,
like if I really had to make a list of things,
I like, I think it ticked all the boxes. Had
(14:06):
this like kind of part Indiana Jones, these like covert
missions and mysterious islands, and then the dinosaurs start to appear,
and then it gets to this intense kind of I
was thinking Jaws at some point in this movie. I'm like, Wow,
this is just a lot like Johs And we'll talk
about Jaws later. And then this, you know, the sheer
scale of this uncharted island and the feeling of this
(14:26):
navigating this vast, dangerous new world. Then I started thinking, like,
you know, they on a mission. It's Lord of the Rings.
I mean, they're throwing all these blockbusters into one movie.
Then there's this creepy kind of Doctor Moreau Island of
Doctor Moreau vibe going on because they're they're mixing, they're
breeding different kinds of dinosaurs and it's not going well.
(14:49):
So they had to abandon this island because there's got
some mistakes there. And then the characters start navigating on
a river raft and I'm like, it's the Land of
the Lost. You've got dinosaurs, you got family, you got
a raft, you got Land of the Lost, but unlike
the last Land of the Lost movie, this was not terrible,
so pretty fun. And then they had something in it
(15:12):
Sam called the distortis Rex, the distortive the what distortis Rex?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Distortess Rex.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, the distortest Rex is a combo between like one
of these breeding failures they had. So it was like
a little bit of an elephant man. I tell you
this is tell me when you see it. This is
this is an elephant man reference. I'm thinking, yeah, when
you see it. And for the record, this might just
be the only big movie I've seen recently that did
not have Pedro Pascalin.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You know, he's in everything right now. He's like that
hot sauce that that everybody puts on everything that he
that stuff goes on everything everything.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, well I think I'll tell you why, because he
ticks the box for diversity. But he also looks like
a leading man that any ethnicity. They had a mystery
ethnicity so that you're taken out of the like kind
of thing where if you're from Alabama, you're like, while
the hall is that superhero black. I'm not want to
stereotype people from Alabama. But you know, you don't get
(16:09):
into that. While the hell is that Mexican the president
of the United States? When was that? When did that happen? Here?
Did that happen? That ain't gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Breaks their immersion, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It does breaks their immersions sometimes. So with with Pedro Pascal,
you want him in your movie because the theaters, I
mean the studios are going, hey, where's there a diverse?
You know, you need somebody recast one of these people.
So you get that guy and you get a great actor.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
He comes across as extremely authentic. Yes, so it's really
hard to hate on a guy who's that authentic.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, he's a winner, but he could overdo it and
become a little overexposed. So if you're watching, if you're
listening to me, Pedro Pascal, I have some advice for you.
Number one, give away all your money right now.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Give it to me.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Please give it to everybody, anybody, just me Thespians. I
could use it too, Okay, okay, So number two at
the box office F one, the movie talked about this
a little bit ago, but I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I heard surprisingly it's doing well.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, in the second week and across the one hundred
million domestic mark. And this is a clear win for
Apple because you know, they are known for putting a
lot of money into studios that don't into movies that
don't make profits. But now they have this, you know, ambitious,
big blockbuster action film with big stars, and they're making
(17:31):
money and they might make their money back for once.
How to Train Your Dragon is there at number three.
It's still going. It's kind of like a quiet, family
friendly animated option for everybody out there, and it's making
it's making money. It's a I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
My daughter wants to see that one too. We compromise
and said Jurassic World.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, okay, yeah I can't. And they've got a couple
other holdovers like L e O and twenty eight years
Later doing pretty good. But Ello, it seems I think
it's only made like forty something million.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
It feels like a move a seventy five to Something's
disconnected in that movie. Something feels like you could tell
that it had something solid going. And I know some
people who actually worked on the film, and I'm like,
you could tell that they had something, but something just
something was missing.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I have advice for your friends that worked on Leo
if you want to give it to them for me unsolicited,
give away all your money. Yes, you'll be forgiven. You'll
be forgiven after this twenty eight years later. Number five,
Lelo and Lilo with Lelo, Lelo and Stitch, Lelo and
(18:47):
Stitch four hundred and eight million. Right, No one's going
to catch that anytime soon. And think about the merchandise
for Lelo and Stitch everybody. I've been to Disneyland recently
and everybody is picking up a Leelo and Stitch thing.
So just take that four hundred and eight million and
multiply it. There's a lot of money there. All right.
(19:09):
We'll get back to the box office after this on
Joe' Scalante Live from Hollywood, Joe Scolante all of the time.
All right, it is the business end of Hollywood, every
Sunday on k e IB eleven fifty on your am diile. Okay,
let's go back to the box office because we're not done.
(19:31):
And then we're also not done with movies that I saw.
So Jurassic Park works really well. I loved it. I
give it four stars on my letterbox, and usually I
just don't like this kind of movies. But this guy,
I think, where did this guy come the director did
some like what was he? Where did this Where did
(19:54):
this director come from? Mark Flanagan? No, No, that's the
other movie I did this guy. Now I have too
many notes.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Directed by Gareth Edwards.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, okay, so he was on Godzilla twenty fourteen and
Rogue one Star Wars thing and you know, I.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Know one was outstanding.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, but I'm not usually like, it's not enough to
drive me to go see a movie directed by this guy.
But he was. It was really good. And David kap
a guy who who he wrote it with, wrote the
original Jurassic Part Ooh interesting, and he knew who was
great in it in his back after a long absence
of being lame not great on my list anyway, Scarlett Johanson,
(20:43):
really she plays that. She's the star of the movie,
and she's great. She's got uh she's a great actress,
and she can do action. She's believable as a you know,
situational security and reaction specialist. I think that's what you
called herself. Anyway, you said, think she is awesome, and
then I started to drop off the the Johansson train.
(21:04):
And now I think I'm back on it all right.
It's kind of cool noises we got going on in
my headphones. So I don't know if the if the
audience is getting these, but they're they're they're very Japanese.
Uh subway okay, so this Uh, I don't I don't
think this is a No. I'm not gonna there's too
(21:27):
many spoiler alerts that I could do about this movie,
so I'm just gonna move on.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I thank you because I'm going to see it tonight.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, Okay. Then I saw another movie, Sam, Did you
know that?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Which one?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I saw a movie called The Life of Chuck.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Life of Chuck.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, the Life of Chuck Sam Chuck who well they
don't really tell you his last name, I don't think.
But this is an adaptation of a Stephen King novella.
Really yeah, and it's in limited release. Didn't make that
much money, but uh, I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's in limited release. I'm guessing they're not really concerned
with how much it's going to pull in.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I mean they will actually, I mean they said it went.
It came out like June sixth, then it expanded nationwide
on June thirteenth, But it was hard for me to
see it. I saw in Denver at a little weird,
funky theater. Oh wait, did I say Denver, I meant
Salt Lake City. Uh, it's pretty good. It's Stephen King
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novella called If It Bleeds. It's a very dramatic emotional story.
Sounds gruesome some it's not haunted. It's not like it's
not scary. It's not one of those. It's more like
the stand by me version of us. That that's because
that's Stephen. It's in the Shawshanks stand by Me Vein,
not not the It or whatever or the other scary movies. Shining.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Is that on his misery Shining?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, it's nothing. It's not even the most scary of
it all is his political rants. Those are frightening. So
it's like critics are really loving it. They call it
a life affirming masterpiece and a stunning celebration of the
moments that make life worth living. I think that's kind
of sums it up there. A stunning celebration. Well, I
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don't know if it's stunning, but it is a celebration
of the moments that make life worth living, and it's
kind of like a non chronological thing, which bugs a
lot of people, like my father in law. He can't
stand this. The movie starts at the end. This one
starts in act three. Oh, the guy's name is Krantz.
Last name Chuck Krantz. Because you were asking thank you.
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So Act three is at the beginning, and you got
some apocalypse kind of thing going on, and then Act
two jumps back to show him as a kid or
he likes dancing. Now, if you have a kid, Sam
that likes to dance, there are any of your kids
to look like they're going into the competitive dance world
or anything like that, and.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Not anytime soon. They enjoy dancing. They're not good at it.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay, if your kid's good, because sometimes your kid can
be really good, and then he gets recruited into a
dance world and then he gets beat up on Monday
after the you know, but i'd say take your.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Kid like you got served kind of thing beat up,
you know, like.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
If you're okay. But put it this way. My cousins
own a dance competition and it's it's ninety nine percent girls,
and then then they have a category for boys, and
do you know what the trophy is? If you're the
top boy in this competition.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Ah what.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Mister petit, mister petit, that's what they They crown you,
mister petit.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
So on Monday when you tell your friends you're you're
mister petite.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
How emasculated?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, you end up in the trash can.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So anyway, if your kid is mister petite or on
his way, take him to see this movie. This makes
you know, going into the dance lessons and all that
stuff makes it really cool. It's a side thing, a
side plot really that this kid is into dancing. It's
pretty cool. And there's some like really good dance like
seeing like, uh, la is that Eli was? That was
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that movie with Ryan Gosling and where they're dancing all
the time and it's Los Angeles La Something. It's not
Eli's story because that's that's Steve Martin.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
L A something woman, yea.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
L a woman and his girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That was. That was a fun movie.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
It's a great movie. Okay, uh nothing worse than a
guy in the radio that doesn't know what he's talking about. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I still we've kind of reached the get off my
lawn stage of our lives. So all we have to
do is just point in the direction of the thing
and the people get it.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You know the thing, you know the thing? Okay? Anyway,
uh Life of Chuck good movie directed by a guy
named Mike Flanagan who's done other some of the horror adaptations,
adaptations of Stephen King's works. And the guy who plays
the lead, Tom Hiddleston, don't know him, but he can dance.
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Mark Hamill shows up.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Tom hitdleson. Yeah, that's a loki.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh loki.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Okay, that makes it. Yeah, he's outstanding.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, he's got some dance moves. Oh yeah, So he's
the star. And Mark Hamill shows up somewhere. Narrated by
the beluffed Nick Offerman.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Excellent.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah. Yeah. So I went to the Toronto Film Festival.
Everybody loved it, won the Piece of People's Choice award.
But as I said, the it's only made six million
dollars so far. It's been out for but it's a
limited release at that five weeks. Well, you know, it
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was in nine hundred theaters.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You would hope that there would be more, but there's
very little. I mean, you're going up against a Jurassic
world where it's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And Jurassic World Rebirth, Yeah, thank You, which is in
four thy three hundred screens, so you can't. But I
recommend this movie.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
But it sounds great, it's.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Good, it's good. What else say I see? Well, I'll
tell you what I saw. I saw something on Netflix.
Every once in while, I'll throw a Netflix movie out here.
I try to encourage people to go to the movie theater,
but I watch a few Netflix movies. I saw a
movie called My Mom Jane, I deeply personal and of
course emotional documentary that aims to tell the story of
Hollywood icon Jane Mansfield from a unique and intimate perspective
(27:35):
that of her daughter, Sam Law and Order SVU star
Marishka Hargitay. So she's Jane Mansfield's daughter. She did not
publicize it, she did not rely on it to get
her career going. And I remember because when I was
at CBS, they would cast her in all kinds of
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things and I had to make deals with her agent,
and then I had to get her to sign a
few things, and I didn't know she was Jane Mansfield's
daughter right in front of me. Who knew? But she
doesn't look like Jane Mansfield. She doesn't a few of
us do. So she had no personal memories of her mother.
But as you know, her mother was struck down in
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the prime of her life in a automobile accident and
this little baby girl was in the car at the
same time. So she ended up no parents and then
tossed around to relatives and I guess her uh, her
legal father was still alive, so he was around Argeta
(28:39):
Mickey hargitay.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But there. This is the reason why you want to
watch this, because Jane Mansfield is a fascinating individual, like
a bombshell from the fifties, and that's interesting enough to
hear her many loves. One of them I met my
friend's dad. I'm not gonna say which one, but she was.
(29:04):
That's enough. But then the family mystery start unfolding and
you're not prepared for the revelations.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Wait, there's a family mystery. Yeah, uh Jane, Jane Mansfield
and Mariska HARGATEA and I think I said that correctly. Okay,
now I'm intrigued.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Well, the movie. The movie is about how she never
knew her mother, but her mother was a blonde bombshell.
Then Mariska hargate is a modern movement a feminist. Maybe yeah,
And she said, my mother, poor dear, had to make
her living on sex appeal and around all these horny men,
and the only way she could get jobs was to
be sexy in front of a bunch of horny men,
or around a bunch of horny men. Do the math.
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And she just thought it was a something she didn't
want to identify with. She felt sorry for her mom,
and she didn't want to be like that. She wanted
to promote it, but she never knew her release does
never really memory. She's very very very very little when
the car accident happened. But even with the books that
she didn't read, but all the information available about Jane Mansfield,
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she had no idea what she was going to find out.
I'll just leave it right there.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Wow, Okay, I'm I'm hooked.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
We'll check the traffic and we'll come back with more.
Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. Joe Scolante Live from Hollywood.
It's by Hollywood, you mean burd Bank. It was just
two hours of the business, end of show business every
Sunday on k EIB eleven fifty on your AM dial.
There's a couple other Netflix are streaming things that that
(30:34):
I watched this year, But I understand this week, I understand, Sam,
you watched something I did.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I caught a show on Netflix's I guess it's our show.
It's kind of a documentary.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Series, yeah, anthology.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, train Wrecked, and it was I watched the Poop
Cruise episode.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Now I'm interested because I saw that. It seems like
they released a bunch of them at once.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It sounds like what happened on the ship.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, but you went straight for the Poop Cruise.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, it was up there on on Netflix. It just
popped up on the first thing you know, suggested for
you watch people defecate, because.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
For me it said like Mayor of Mayhem was the
one that wanted me to watch. Okay, and you had
said poop Cruise.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, okay, yeah, you know check the algorithm. Yeah, but
it was fascinating.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Is a quality documentary? Do you feel like you've you've
seen more than then you've seen you know already, because
I've seen a lot of footage of the Poop Cruise.
I've seen some segments done on it. Yeah, well I
need to watch this.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, I think it's interesting. It's worth watching just because
you get to see kind of a Lord of the
Flies kind of energy takeover a cruise ship where everybody's
supposed to be feeling great on good terms. They have casinos,
they have all kinds of fun stuff, and then you
slowly get to see just how much like we are
willing to debase ourselves when as soon as there's any
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kind of conflict or any kind of something that we have,
any kind of adversity, Like people.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Are like, I smell fear. I'm taking your stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I smell poop.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
You don't smell fear. There's no way you can smell
fear with all this poop around here.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
No, it was overwhelming just watching it. If I'm glad
we didn't have smell a vision.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
That's another one of those promises that they said we
would have.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
You would think. Do you know how many things I'm
disappointed about that they promised in the fifties that they're
just that they said that we would that it would
just be a basic part of our lives nowadays, And
we seriously a lot of the goals that we set,
the lofty goals that we set for ourselves, we just
fell fell far short.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
That the scretching sniffs that's true.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
That's true. And with AI we may be that much
closer to more future episodes of Lancelot Link.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Oh yes, yeah you can. Yeah, you don't need really,
you don't need a torture chimpanzees to.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yes, we don't need to due anymore. We can actually
make a season two of Lancelot Link.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
All right, speaking of things that could use, and may
I I was Steven Spielberg, I would be. I just
like when, like, really you're gonna show as a twenty
fifth anniversary of Jaws is coming up significant mousecone for
a cinematic classic and a groundbreaking film, but this horror thriller.
(33:16):
I think it ages everywhere very well, except for when
they show the shark. Yeah, the shark is terrible.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
So if I was heying my beat, like please don't
show that in four k oh, wait, you're gonna have
an IMAX version of No no, no no no, we
don't really need that and maybe an AI. Maybe what
we need is just to cut in some better sharks,
or maybe this is the charm. Now I think we
need new sharks. So to commemorate this half century mark,
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Universal Pictures is bringing Jaws back to theaters. Nationwide. Sam
Special screenings are scheduled to begin on August twenty ninth,
when summer is just about over, presenting the film in
various formats, including four K, Imax and Real D three D.
I wonder if that was a deal with the Summer
(34:07):
with the Amity or Martha's Vineyardburg was filmed, like, Hey,
we'll help you out with this, but can you wait
till summer is just about over. We don't need a
shark scare midsummer or at the beginning of the summer.
How about August twenty ninth. School's been in session for
twenty eight days by then, and I don't know why
the kids don't revolt with this August first start of
(34:30):
their school year.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, that's too early. We didn't start until the beginning
of September.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, September fifteenth. I'm in school. Get I'm in until
June fifteenth. Beyond the theatrical re release, a new fifteenth
anniversary home media edition will be available in four K,
Ultra HD and Blu ray, which includes an accompanying documentary
from National Geographic titled Jaws at fifty The Definitive Inside Story,
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Thank You. Additionally, Martha's Vineyard, the film's primary shooting location,
slated to host various commemorative events, exhibitions, and fun gatherings
throughout the year. Comprehensive celebration highlights the enduring cultural impact
sam in cinematic legacy of Jobs five decades after its
(35:18):
original release. City officials just ask that everyone please bring
your passports or other identification if you will, or you
will be thrown into the water. That's a message from
the Martha's Vineyard people.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I'm a big fan of the movie, and really it's underrated.
As great as it is, it's still underrated because of
how influential it's been on filmmaking ever since then. And
you're right, the mechanical Shark is like that's the one
part where it just doesn't stand up to the test
of time and.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
It didn't work. Like when they're filming it, all the
stories are it just did not work, and they didn't
you got this one piece of technology. It's so pivotal.
It doesn't work, like it won't turn left, it'll only
turn right, or it was all kind the stories about
what a fail it was. But they had it to
shoot and shoot and shoot, and hopefully they could cut
it together and they did.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Now, the thing that the influential part of the movie
is the way that they made reference to Jaws throughout
the movie, but you never actually saw the shark until
the very end. So it built the tension and the
drama of this the specter of this horrifying figure, and
it really I mean, obviously mechanically it didn't pay off
(36:31):
the way people would have liked. But I've seen other movies,
horror films and thrillers where they make mention of it,
and they even have it in video games where they
make mention of the villain throughout the entire progress of
the film, and it's this big bad thing that you
don't see until the very last point, and the tension
(36:51):
just gets built up perfectly up to that point, like
jos exactly like Jaws. Yeah, that's the thing that's that
is the influence of Jaws. You see the ripple effect
of that everywhere.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I saw it on Friday, fourth of July. I think
it's a good Fourth of July movie. And I also
saw it at the Cinerama Dome in nineteen seventy five
when it debuted. Wow, and I was I may I
remember it like it was yesterday. Because my dad took
me in the family. And back then I'm twelve, I'm
(37:23):
picking all the movies. I'm saying, we're seeing Jaws. So
I picked the movie, pick the theater we go, and
the first scene, the girl takes her clothes off and
starts running into the water, and I'm like, Okay, this
is starting out pretty good. And then someone in the theater.
It's all quiet, though, because you know something's gonna happen.
The tension is already there. You know she's gonna die
of a shark attack. And she's running into the water,
(37:45):
and some guy yells out the sharp don't eat her
our wheel and I'm like, what the heck, Hey dad,
how do you eat? Like, how does that even work?
What did he mean by that? And why did everybody laugh?
I was only twelve.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
That's cute.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It's a true story. I probably told it on the
show five or six times. I did see something on
in the series category. I don't know if I can
recommend it, Sam, what's that torn? In this one? It's
called stick Owen Wilson Stick. Yeah, it's got a lot
of really cool things in it, like golf. Owen Wilson
(38:26):
is a down on his luck pro golfer, So you're thinking, hey,
happy Gilmore, caddy shack this kind of humor. Yeah, it
has it, it has it, but then definitely just to
be playing, there's over. They forced in all these woke
(38:49):
things to make it woke, but then they also made
fun of the woke stuff here and there, so I
think they're trying to balance that. And but I think
if for most golfers it was too much woke, like
you don't want to see this, And then for most
woke people who they care about golf, you know, it's
(39:11):
not their sport. I think there was so but they tried,
and they tried, and there was some uneven riding in it.
It would get really good for five minutes and then
it'll get really bad for twenty minutes. And so I
don't know if I could recommend it. If you really
like Owen Wilson, go ahead. I don't know why. His
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nose is really weird and his hair is really weird.
His hair is like he has a woman's hair.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I always liked his brother a little better, but I mean,
I'm basing that off of very.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I think they're both geniuses. Yeah, but it's I don't
know I don't know. I shouldn't. I shouldn't really talk
about his nose.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Wilson too, he was great in Royal, Tennant, Bombs and
a bunch of movies. He's been fantastic. But that's a
very talented brother duo.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
What about Zulander?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Zuelander was great, hilarious.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
So do I recommend it? It's on Apple, you know
what I like about it? Apple will spend more money
than you've ever heard of in your life on the music.
So every song that comes on is a classic. There's
no deep cuts. It just they just keep the hits,
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keep coming, really well known, expensive songs. It just sounds
so expensive, to the point where I heard a Minor
Threat song in there now. Minor Threat is a band
like probably the number one band of the punk rock
movement that kept their credibility from Washington, d C. Their
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singer went on to form a band called Fugazi, and
that band is even more like credibility and Ian McKay.
This is his name, Brian Baker, the guitar player now
in bad religion, but so much credibility. They wouldn't sell
T shirts. Fugazi don't sell t shirts, only five dollars shows.
(41:08):
I'm going to say they got at least three hundred
grand for this song placement maybe more. Good for them.
Nobody even knows that Fugazi song was on. That couldn't tell.
It was only on for like ten seconds till I
blew it and told everybody it wasn't forgot it was
a minor threat song, but it sounded great. It was
the right song for the right time and significant. So
(41:28):
that's a I guess the best thing about stick. All right,
let's take a break. Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. More coming up,
Joe Ascalante Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean
burd Bank. This is two hours of the business end
of show business. We're in the second hour now. Sam
(41:48):
Yes said, couldn't be done, but we did it. We
talked about movies in the first hour. We went back
to the I'm just going to give you recap if
he didn't get the first time number one movie in
America formula in the movie haven't seen it but no sorry,
Jurassic World did see it. Number two didn't see it,
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Jurassic Work. And then we talked a little bit about
Life of Chuck. I don't know. It was kind of fun.
And now here we are in the second hour where
I'm going to lead off with a story that you
probably heard and is a little confusing to people. But
it was the CBS settlement. Did you hear about this? Sam?
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I was reading about it here in the notes. I
hadn't heard of it before because I'm not that big
of a nerd.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Good for you, good answer. Paramount Global, the parent company
of CBS where I spent most of my professional career
before I jumped out and became an entrep maneur, has
reportedly agreed to a substantial settlement stemming from a lawsuit
filed by present sident Donald Trump, president filing lawsuits. The
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lawsuit centers on a sixty minutes interview when then Vice
president Kamala Harris that aired ahead of the twenty twenty
four presidential election. Do you remember that one, Sam?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah? Yeah. Well, Trump's legal team alleged that the interview
was deceptively edited to favor Harris, thereby using the public
airwaves to conduct election interference. Sam. While CBS in Paramount
maintained that their editing was standard journalistic practice to make
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a someone that said something dumb sound smart, they ultimately
chose to settle the case. The settlement is reported to
be around sixteen million dollars, which will be allocated to president.
This is the worst for them. This is the it's
not the sixteen million dollars, but they have to donate
it part of the deal. They have to donate it
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directly to the president ump future presidential library, and to
legal fees, rather than paid directly to him. Paramount also
did not issue an apology as part of the agreement.
But they change their practices now sixty Minutes has agreed
to a new policy. They will now promptly release full,
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unedited transcripts of interviews with future presidential candidates. This move
has been internally controversial because the people, the people that
work there are like, why why would you give that
guy who sixty million dollars? I mean six They all
hate him, and you're giving him sixteen million dollars. And
then I went in and asked for a raise and
you said, no, you have to give the president sixteen
(44:41):
million dollars who doesn't need it. So some of them quit.
So yeah, some of them are citing, of course First
Amendment issues. Seeing scholars express concerns like just this chill
free speech a concession like this. Paramount executive stated that
settlement allows them to avoid unpredictable legal costs and distractions,
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especially as the company pursues a major merger with Guidance
Media that requires federal approval. So the cynics are saying,
they just gave him sixteen million dollars so they could
get their deal approved. Yeah, give the guy the money.
He's the guy. He's in charge of whether we have
this merger or not.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
It's a shakedown and they got it.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yes, But you know, it is the public airwaves, and
if you're using the public airwaves, this is what people
don't understand. Sometimes. CBS is a private company, but they
lease the public airwaves. And when you lease the public airwaves,
you get your granted a monopoly on that spectrum. If
you have a monopoly on that spectrum, you have to
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be impartial. If right before a presidential election, you have
someone come on the air and says things that are damaging,
she had a reputation at that time that she wasn't smart,
and then see they ask her questions, she has really
bad answers, So they edit it together to make them
look really good. Are you using the airwaves in a
(46:11):
neutral manner, or are you doing it to favor the
candidate you want? And is that election interference? The CBS
did not want to find out in the higher courts,
and they wanted to get their merger done, so they
gave the sixteen million.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I just assumed everybody did that.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, that's fair. But
but if it's public, then you're the public, and they're
over there doing everything they can to get their guy
elected using your airwaves. Are you mad? Are you happy?
Are you? Ah? That's okay. I'll do something else. I'll
stuff the ballot box because that's what's going to happen
after that. They go, if you're doing that, I'm going
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to do this. And then if you do that and
my guy doesn't win, I might go into the Capitol
building and sippy on a desk with a Viking horn,
and then you know, it's mayhem. So they got to
be careful, and they thought they could get away with
it because everybody does it. Like you said, it's just normal.
You see. You know, since Walter Cronkite, these people are lefties.
(47:14):
They're gonna attack a Republican president every single time. I
remember when President Nixon died and that guy came on
the air from CBS and he says, disgrace the president,
former President Richard Nixon passed away. I'm like, whoa, you
got to do that right after he dies?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, come ahead, it's not necessary.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
But and you're using the public airwaves. I mean, people
expect it to be neutral and impartial, you know, disgraced.
Was he disgraced? Not to some people back then it
was probably like five percent of the people. He was
not disgraced. After listening to my episode about the Watergate
break in being a the Watergate hearings having a major
flaw on them. I don't know if you heard that episode, Sam,
(47:58):
because I was in reading these guys directly that wrote
the book about the Watergate trial, and there was now
that this guy went in and looked for all the
evidence that was hidden of the Freedom of Information Act,
and he found out that one of the witnesses for
against President Nixon was meeting secretly with the judge the
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in the hearings, and so Nixon never shood a chance.
So I'm just saying, when the guy dies, if you're
the caretaker of the public air waves, you got to
be more neutral, and they already paid ABC already paid
a bunch of money to Donald Trump as well for
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something that could be described as election interference. And of
course Donald Trump all kinds of election interference has been
accused against him. But this is what happens, Like, we
started doing this and then it comes back. Never once
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did these people think, Hey, if we do this, it
might happen to us. But what if we're what if
we're not in the White House and there's another guy
in the White House and he does the same thing
to us that we're doing him. Not one, not once,
did anyone ever consider that. And now the guy's doing
to them what they did to him. If it went
to the Supreme Court, what would happen any idea, Sam.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
H It's completely political six to.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Three in favor of the president.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
It's just going to go right down party lines.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Six to three in frav of the president. So they
don't want to go there. So that's another reason why
they had to settle. It would and you know how
long it would take to get there, oh years. Yeah,
First they have to get a decision in a lower court.
Then that lower then everybody's got to pay several more
million dollars to get it to an appellate court, and
then they get it to the appellate court, and then
they spend millions of dollars to get it prepared to
go to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
And he was what sixteen million? Yeah, chomp chair change
nowadays a little bit, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just it's
like here you it's but here's what you do. You pay,
You pay off a little bit of money for protection.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, you pay him, but you pay them, and you
change your policy so it doesn't happen again, and you
fire whoever did it. I mean, you pay them. But
then now okay, so now you're not going to do
it again. So now now you understand what the public
airwaves are and you're not gonna do it anymore. Or
did you just chill free speech? So now nobody can
absolutely you know that's the problem. Okay, Well that's uh,
(50:36):
there's two sides of that story. Joe's Scalante Live from
Hollywood back after the traffic. Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. If
by Hollywood you mean Burbank got it, I think you
got it. Okay, Sam, you said something at the end
of that case. That was prophetic. You said, Uh, these
(51:00):
people are engaging in law. Fair, but there's a difference
between getting sued or going to jail, right, yeah, Okay,
Well recently in India.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Wow, taking us across on the others. Meanwhile, in Bombay.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
A case involving the Malaysian film industry which dates back
to twenty twenty four. This case does the Malaysian film
industry actually only dates back to January of this year,
stems from the social media post allegedly made by actor
Minu Munir. Okay, now there's an actor, director Balachandra Menon.
(51:45):
He thought this postparts infammatory and harmful to his reputation. Okay.
The dispute reportedly involves Munir making serious allegations of misconduct
against Menan and other industry figures. Actor. This is where
it gets good. Actor Minu Mounir was granted bail on
(52:05):
July first, after being arrested in the defamation case filed
by actor director Balachandra.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Mean On Munir versus me non.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yes, and he and he filed these defamation claim and
they went and arrested him.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Oh wow, Yeah that's India. Why I mean, I didn't
know Bally would be balin' well Gandhi. I mean, I
haven't seen that movie because it's far too long. But
I thought he was a man of peace, and I
thought that I thought they were adopting that that world
over there.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
No no, no, no, no versus me. No, we need
to kpe our eyes on this one.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yes, so he's he's granted bail and so he's not
in jail anymore for for making a post that that
made serious allegation of misconduct against me. Not there's defamatory,
allegedly defamatory and harmful to his reputation.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
So defamatory he went to jail.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Yeah. Wow, it was his singer, Like.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
What he said was that unlawfully awful?
Speaker 2 (53:16):
It was you've heard of a sick burmo. This was
a plague of a burm.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
This was a curry burn.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
I didn't I wasn't gonna get racist. But since you
started delicious.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Okay, I love It's my It's one of my favorite cuisines.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I like ty curry, but Indian curry no time for it. Oh.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I love Indian curry. It's the best. Ty Curry is
great too, but I prefer Indian curry.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
So there's been a few defamation cases in the news
this week. I might as well go there now, right,
But the deformation stuff, I love defamation. I mean I
don't like it, but you know, I like doing these
stories on it. It's very illustrative because people are always
saying they're going to sue someone for saying something. Yeah,
I'm going to assue you. You said that or you
wrote this, I will sue you, and then you listen
(54:03):
to the show so he can find out whether to
let it go or to sue them. Ninety nine percent
of the time, let it go. Care's a prominent one.
It's notable development involving the long running legal battle between
hip hop superstars Drake and Kendrick Lamar ooh. This week,
(54:24):
a federal judge heard arguments in New York regarding this
defamation suit filed by Drake against Universal Music is label
in the label for both artists. So while this puff
Daddy stuff was going on, Drake and Kendrick Lamar were
going out in court. As you remember, the lawsuit alleges
(54:44):
that Lamar's disk track not Like Us, which was produced
and promoted by Universal, falsely accused Drake of serious criminal
acts it's what the suit says, including that he is
a sex offender.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
O yes.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Universal is arguing that the lyrics fall under protected trash
talking in the context of rap battles, while Drake's team
argues that it goes beyond hyperbole and has caused real harm,
including attempted break ins at his home. He's got evidence,
he's bringing receipts for the harm. People are breaking into
his house because they think he's a pedophile. This case
(55:22):
highlights the complex make people want to stay away. Well,
I mean these are vigilantes, you know, so, I mean
you're following this so right now, the news this week
is that they they're hearing arguments and it's going it's ongoing. Now.
(55:45):
If he says you're a pedophile, it makes people spit
on the ground, right, Yes, so, Kendrick Lamar said, accused
Drake of being a pedophile in his song like Us.
Is that true? Is that true?
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Okay, it makes people spit on the ground. Yes, Okay,
that's the one prom what's the second proms to be
has to be not true? Yeah, it has to be
not true. So if they go to court, they got
established this it's not true. Now if he brings evidence
that Drake had an underage girlfriend. Drake is toast. Do
(56:25):
you think Drake ever had an underage girlfriend? Do you think?
Let me better? Do you think they could march someone
into court that said they had a relationship with Drake
if they really had to.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
I'm sure that they would have found a way to
settle out of court if they didn't have at least
enough evidence.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
So you think that person doesn't exist or I'm not.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
I don't know. I can't say. I just know that whoever.
I know that lawyers will do whatever it is necessary
as far as getting the information they need and whether
or not they testify or not or is a different story.
But I've so.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
I'm just saying that's one thing that he could do
that Lamar could do to get out of it. And
then it wouldn't satisfy the prongs because it would be true.
You could say, Hey, you know what, you had a
fifteen year old girlfriend. You took this girl backstage, took
hercross straight lines, violated the Man Act, all this or whatever,
and she's going to come in and testify and guess
(57:22):
what she gets to testify with her face blurred out
or behind the screen because she's so young and it's traumatic.
So then they lose it because then it's true if
he's dating a young girl. Or let's say it's not
true and he establishes it's not true. But then we
go to the hurdle. You got two prongs and a
hurdle with the defamation case. The hurdle is he's a
(57:46):
public figure, so you have to show actual malice. An
actual malice would be something that was extremely negligent that
you knew would cause harm, and you knew it was false,
and you like maybe to knock him off the charts
could be could be grounds for and malice. Maybe all
(58:09):
this is is for the tryer effect. The jury is
going to be, you know, this guy's going to say this,
the other guy's going to say that, and the jury
is going to come back and say, what do you
think they would say if this went all the way
free speech, artistic expression, or do you think this is
speech that must be punished? And what about the new
(58:30):
legal doctrine that this person the universal is making up
called it falls under the protected trash talking in the
context of rap battles that I forgot which amendment that
is to the Constitution?
Speaker 1 (58:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
I got you stumped, Tom.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Yeah, because it's it's it's a rap battle. It's trash talking.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
If you they are not according to the white man
on the Supreme Court, that.
Speaker 1 (58:54):
Means he's he lost. Drake lost, that's it.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
He lost the rap battle, that's for sure. Joe Ascalante
live from Hollywood. More coming up. M m mm hmm.
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