October 31, 2024 • 27 mins
Joe Escalante's weekly plunge into the business end of showbiz. This week: Brady MacDonald joins Joe to discuss the latest festivities from Disneyland, incuding comparing Disney Japan to our own Disneyland (aside from the $68 ticket price in Japan)... Zipedeedodah is still played out there, in case you were curious... Also, does Disneyland's new pricing plan stink of elitism, or is it a good idea? Shorter lines are always cool, but paying more for something that is already a huge expenditure may not be...
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
I heard, I heard, I heard both the recording stuff
and recording in progress now, and I learned recording.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I just wanted to make sure. Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
All right, back again, Brady McDonald's theme park reporter for
the Orange County Register in the Southern California News Group.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
There's so much stuff going.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
On at Disneyland, and we are here in Southern California,
and then we got to catch up, and it's been
it's been too long, Brady.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Good, Good to be back, glad to be back.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
All right, so let's start with Tiana's by You. That's
the big thing right now. They reopened It used to
be Splash Mountain, which was based on a motion a
really old motion picture entitled.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It was directed by d. W. Griffith. Uh it's called
The Birth of a Nation.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
No, it's the song on the oh oh okay, oh
oh oh really that's what all the hubbub is about. Okay, wow,
it's different, Okay, anyway, that movie is not in anyway,
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I don't think Doney released that movie.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
They would like to say they didn't, but it's yeah,
it was. That was a second movie after The Snow
White and the Seven drawers. I understand, but it's become
it's a little dated, and they wanted to update the park,
and what better way to do it with than with
Tianas by You. They got a new restaurant, by You Adventure, okay,
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and they got any restaurant.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
What's going on with that? Because there's news, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I mean they started doing the annual passol the previews
on Monday. I wrote it on Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
We are talking to someone who wrote, oh Tiana is
by You Adventure?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been They've been doing previous
now for a few days, and then it officially opens
on November fifteenth to the public, and then they're also
doing cast member our employee previews right now. So people
are getting wet in October, which is not something I
like to do at at theme park.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And was it as wet as Splash Mountain?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I would say maybe even just a smidge more than
I remember it. I mean, they have not dialed this
thing down at all. But if you were to look
at it from the outside and you hadn't ridden Splash Mountains,
say two or three years, you might not even know
walking up to it that it's not Splash Mountain anymore.
But when you get inside you definitely can tell, particularly
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when you're on the log floom. They basically scraped everything
inside and started over, and they did a beautiful job.
You know. It's a it's a great ride for kids.
It's got a good story. It sort of takes you through.
The storyline is Tiana's throwing a Marti grass party and
she is to hire a band, and that's your your
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job is to help her pick out this band. And
the band are all these like little critters that she
finds in Louisiana that play sort of made up instruments.
And that's easy enough to understand and fun enough to
enjoy it. And I'd say you have to write it
a couple of times because you know, it is technically
a throw ride, so you're going through it pretty quickly,
and if you want to catch all the story, you
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probably got to write it a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, the Spis Mountain wasn't perfect. I'm just going to
say no.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I mean the way it was designed was like if
there is some gaps in it despite its very nature.
So yeah, it wasn't ever perfect, but people loved him.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
People loved it, but it was here was I'm saying,
I'm always sad to see any changes go. And if
they called me, I would have told them not to
change it. But I'm not going to have tantrum. But
the problem is sounded the song, not the Song of
the South, but the ride itself, was that it was
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a half ass combination because they had this really cool
Song of the South parts of it, and then a
lot of it was leftover animatronics from America Sings, which
was just a faulty. That was like a nineteen seventies
disaster for people like me who wanted to see carousela
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progress still in that area in Tomorrowland, and they put
in America Sings and I'm like, I'm not buying it.
And then they got rid of it and they took
all the lot of those animals and they just threw
them in Splash Mountain.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, it was a cost saving way to make a
new ride. And you know, I mean for people that
know the history, yeah, you would be disappointed. The most
people that don't know their history. It just looked like
a ride about a b of fritters.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It looked like a bunch of fun.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But yeah, and one of the things one of the
things I never realized was that it was called Splash
Mountain after the movie Splash with Tom Hanks. Oh, it
had just come out, and they're like, let's name it
Splash Mountain.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I know you're now you're dealing with my kind of
accurate news.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
They wanted to they wanted to throw a mermaid in there,
and they're like, now, we're not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So I dedicated to Tom Hanks, is uh nineteen eighties work.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, So I mean in terms of a missmash, it
just it is a total missmash, and or it was.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I guess that was a little more cohesive story and
theme that's going through.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, so he throws the dragon in there and stuff, you.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Know like that. But what they did do is they're
telling the story after the move right. It's not what
they call a book report. It's sort of it's a
it's a a sequel, if you will. And so there
are a few little things that you do need to
understand as you're going along. One, Tiana has set up
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a food co op and that's why there's all these
giant Louisiana plants growing along the side of the mountain.
And they also had to explain why the heck Tiana
is inside of a mountain, right, and so it's it's
a salt mine that she's running this co op in.
That doesn't make any sense to me at all, but
that's what they came up with. And then the second
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thing that people won't understand is there's a part in
the ride where you get shrunk down to like the
size of a frog and you see Tiana like she
looks like Godzilla right like she's looking at you through
this the three me You're like, oh my gosh, what's
happening here? What has happened to Tiana? And what she's
trying to prove to you is that you're really small now,
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So those two things you probably have to be explained
to you, But the rest of the rides pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Did they pull out those shrunken people from the Monsano
for while you're waiting in line, you can see how
you're going to be shrunk later.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They're just using the same, uh, same animatronics from there.
So that's all they ever do is pull stuff Tomorrowland
and put it over.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, they got that big micro microscope you see the guys.
I mean, I'm looking forward to seeing that now let's
go over to Tokyo Disney. I heard there's a there's
a there's a they're trying to take that one away,
but it's met with some resistance.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Do you know anything about that?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So that one's, as far as I know, is not changing. Obviously.
The one in Florida has already changed. The Splash Mountain never,
but the Splash Mountain and uh in Tokyo is not
changing for a number of reasons. One, everybody likes it, right,
so like why change it too? They don't want to
pay the money to change it, right. And Three, they
don't have the baggage that comes with American history of
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slavery and everything that goes with the Song of the South, right,
so they much like Splash Mountain. Here, most people wouldn't
even known it was a Song of the South and
the history of that movie. And in Japan they have
no clue whatsoever what you're talking about, right, Like they're like,
we just like Zippity Do Dog?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, what are you talking about? Zipity Do Dog?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
By the way, Zippity Do Do is my go to
karaoke jam when in Japan, and I recommend it highly
because anybody can sing it it's one of it's the
easiest song to sing in the whole catalog. And the
Japanese have it in their karaokes and I and when
you're there and you're forced to sing a song, you know.
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But now in Disneyland they don't have they don't have
any Song of the South songs playing in the.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Song of the South is thing completely wiped off the map.
And in Disneyland, even in the smallest places like any
any little spot, and so it's it's it's gone for
good now, it doesn't for people.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I think that the problem Song of the Solf was
it made slavery look too happy like that, it just
showed it in like these leaves are Look, look what
a great time they're having and and and they're having
this spiritual life and existence and and and that kind
of war on people. And in today's world, there's a
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lot of people that you're you know, they're gonna point
it out and say hey, uh, and they and they
try to point out, you know, stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
With every corporation. And then corporations have to deal with
it and this is how they dealt with it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But Disney has just owned the movie there. They won't
even show it on Disney Plus, like you can't see
it anymore. You haven't seen it are associated with Disney
prints since probably Bob Igers showed up.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
However, if you look through my Instagram, if you really
look hard, you'll see a picture of me in the
Walt Disney Company standing in front of a Song of
the South poster that was in one of the hallways
in the in the deep dark recesses of one of
the buildings.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I would say public facing they have disounded and then.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I don't know, and I will bet that poster's not
there and anymore either.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
But you know, whether it's a private company, they get
to do whatever they want, right, I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
But they have been doing a lot of this stuff
over the last four or five years. Yeah, it's sort
of trying to to clean up their past, if you will,
a little bit it and make it more appropriate for today.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, you can cry about it, but they're they're there.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
There's worse crimes in that in that place, as far
as taking away beloved rides and things that you have
an emotional attachment to. That's going on all the time,
and this is one that they might have done anyway
without the controversy.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I'm sure there'd be some zippity do those around.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But yeah, they're going to do the same thing that
Peter Pan are taking out.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Like what are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Oh, they've already announced that they're taking out or adjusting
some of the Indian scenes in that, which I forget
if they've done it in Florida or not, but they're
definitely doing it out here.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That's to be expected.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, but they're not changing the movie.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So yeah, and okay, let's see, I know I had
some other what else is going on? Because I know
I had something.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I'll get to it in a second, but it was
Tiana's yu oh yeah, Japan.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Oh the pricing the three oh yeah dollar.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So now I understand that you can get a lightning
lane pass, which means you can get in the lightning
lane and you don't have to make you can whenever
you want when right now the lightning lane is like
make a reservation and then use it and then and
it gets You can't be like it's it's it's you
can't make reservations like multiple ones and things like that.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Right Yeah, This lets you be more spontaneous, spontaneous, do
whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
To go where you want to go, but it's three hundred.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Dollars, no, four hundred dollars, four.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Hundred dollars on top of your ticket that you bought,
which might be another two.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Hundred dollar, So it could cost something like six hundred
and eighty nine dollars to get into Disneyland if you
get like the park harp around the most expensive day
and you want this sort of spontaneous what we used
to call, uh, you know, fast pass. That this is
the old fast pass that used to be free that
now costs essentially four inner books. What Disney would say
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is that the version that was fast pass and free,
you had to make a reservation, right you could only
do one over a time. They've never really offered this,
And what they're already talking about is that there is
a limit to this four hundred dollars Lightning Lane Premium
or Premier Pass, and so they're already talking about there's
going to be an Ultimate Pass, and the Ultimate Pass
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would be no limits. Right now, you can only ride
each ride once. The Ultimate pass is like you want
to ride Rise of the Resistance all day long, knock
yourself out, just here, six hundred dollars eight hundred dollars
whatever it is, that would be the ultimate pass.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Okay, And again we could cry and say this is
the ultimate elitist and when we're when I thought we
were living in a world where we were supposed to
have equity and even things out a little bit, But
now we are. The rich are going to have one
way to ride this thing, and the poor, like you
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and me, Brady, we are going to have to.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well you have your all your press advantages.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
But no, no, but what I would say, the poor
should be very very happy about a four hundred dollars
lightning pass, because this is going to take potentially if
take all the yaddho's out that are paying thirty two
dollars for a lightning lane and clogging up the lightning
laye line and clogging up the stand by lot. If
Disney eventually gets rid of a thirty two dollars you know,
you can only do one ride at a time thing.
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I mean half the park is buying that thirty two
dollars pass. That's not that's not elitist. That's just a
thirty two dollars tax on your ticket. Right, So at
that point it makes no sense You've got two lines
you got people to pay an extra thirty bucks the
people that paid the regular price. I mean, that's not elitist.
That's just sort of not a good way to run
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a park. And so having a four hundred dollars perth.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Thing, that's what the scuttle bud on the internet the
complaints are. And I correct, people are saying, how dare
you make Disney for rich people only? That's the that's
the pushback they're getting, right, I would say, you accept it. Yeah,
I agree with you that that is one of the pushbacks.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But my pushback would be this is actually a better
plan to have a premium priced thing. Then the line
and the lightlinge is going to be very short, and
that's better for everybody in the park because then the
people in the regular line get on faster. Right now,
the lines are kind of fifty to fifty filled, And
you're like, yeah, and so it doesn't make any sense.
This makes more sense. It might not make make people
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happy because it's expensive, but it makes more sense.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
The skip the line notion. It's not a skip the line.
If you get a plaid tour, there's not to skip
the line. Nobody's skipping a line. You're just getting a
little faster.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Of a line.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, I mean correct. Usually what you're going to get
with any sort of lightning laneage you're going to get
about ten minute one. That's more or less what you're
paying for. You're getting a ten minute line on every
single attraction, So skip the line now, but closer to
the front of the line for sure.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
My wife said she was lurking around the Club thirty
three Facebook page and she people were complaining about we're
not we're talking about it. And for those people, they
were saying, I'm happy to pay that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, this is a Club thirty three product, is really
what it is. It's that level of product, and it's
much like the vip tour the plods that give you
a tour that's like thirty five hundred and eight thousand
dollars a day, like and you want to do that.
If you have that kind of money, you can get
a premium experience at Disneyland that is something like going
to Club thirty three. They've always had stuff like this,
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the higher end version of this of the park. Just
most people don't care. Like nobody, nobody wants to do
the seventeen thousand dollars dinner at Disneyland. That's not happening
every night, right, But.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I've done that one though, you ever have not? Yeah, yeah,
I've done the big so like.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I mean, well, yeah, it's like I was hungry when
I left and I was not drunk.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, well I don't imagine you're going to get drunk
at Disneyland, but you should have been full.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Oh I can get drunk at Disneyland, but not there.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
But not when they're serving you. Like, I mean, I'm
not going to do anything in a way that's going
to get you drunk. But yeah, I mean there's always
been that experience, this sort of high end, high price experience.
If you're upset about that, don't do it. You want
to do it, and you think it's worth seventeen hundred
dollars for a meal for ten or twelve people, knock
yourself out. That's this is America.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
People like with this new Lightning line, like money doesn't
mean the same to them, you know, it just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And they're like, I'm going to die. I'm not getting this.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
This is the stage in my life, Like I'm just
starting to look at how much money I'm going to
have left over when I die and how am.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I going to spend it all?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yea. My attitude is like Disneyland is wildly under price.
This is not a popular opinion, but I think that's
why we bring you on because this is I think
Disneyland could charge I don't know, a thousand or fifteen
hundred dollars a day to get in and it wouldn't
be overpriced because if you look at like the price
of an NFL ticket or say a Tailor Swift concert,
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you were paying somewhere in a neighborhood of about one
hundred dollars an hour for that experience. Disneyland is open
for fifteen or sixteen hours a day. Why not pay
one hundred dollars an hour for that? You were getting
as much entertainment from Disneyland as you would get from
an NFL game or a Tailor Swift concert. It is
just all day long. And to think that that can't
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be priced appropriately at like fifteen hundred dollars is just insane.
I mean, they should be allowed to charge that. Clearly
a lot fewer people would go to Disneyland, but that's
probably what it's worth. And that's why to me, it's
an incredible barger, particularly when you can go on a
day when it's one hundred and four bucks to get
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into Disneyland for the whole day, that's insane.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I went to a club once in Tokyo when I
was younger that was one hundred dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Different, different setup though all you were getting getting some
other services there.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Businessmen were getting whipped, so yeah, it was, but.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
There was nobody dressed as a Cinderella or Mickey Mouse there.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, they had some kind of red Sonia outfits on
or something maybe it was. And I'm later literally businessman
getting whipped and chained up, and I was with my
wife because we were like, you know, we're just we
were we were just just being funny, and we gave
it a good hour. We had a few beers and
then we uh we got left the rest of our
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group inside there to do whatever they were going to do.
But it was a one hundred bucks an hour, and
so it's not unheard of one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You you are a renaissance man. You do it all man.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I might observe it. I might observe it, But all right,
let's move over to another topic. Today, they just released
a new video Disney did from the Cotino Project out
in Rancho Mirage where they are selling homes in a
Disney neighborhood that you know, uh, Disney desert homes.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Basically, it's Disney desert homes the highlight.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Instead of being built around a golf course, it's built
around a twenty four acre lagoon, Crystal Lagoon, where I've
been there twice, looked at looking around. They told me
when I was there that if you poured evy on
inside this crystal lagoon, Brady, you would have to filter
it first because it would be too dirty to go
into this lagoon. That's how clean it is until ip
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in it. I guess, and I don't know. Maybe they
have something some kind of you know, chemicals that'll wash
that away. But anyway, the Crystal Lagoon looks amazing instead
of a golf course, because think about it, it's one
hundred and fourteen degrees. You have some friends over. Does
anyone want to go to that golf course that you
live on?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But do they want to go to the crystal lagoon
and have an artificial beach and have someone bring you
umbrella drinks in a chase lounge?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Sign you sign you up. So I've been out there.
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
You know, I could maybe add some more real estate
to my portfolio. I have a small portfolio. Anything big,
it would be the biggest thing I ever got. But
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Looks amazing. What do you know.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I mean, Disney has done this in other places. I
mean they do it a lot in Florida, Prince Tag
a lot higher. They have a really expensive place in
Florida that's literally on the Disney World property that I
think they're like started ten to fifteen million dollars at home,
very exclusive.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I saw a thing on that today too when I
looked at the like Katina sent out a YouTube thing
to look at them, explaining it a little more like
showing inside of the homes. That's what they're doing. And
then YouTube went led right into that Golden Oaks or
whatever that thing is in Florida. It's like you could
walk to Epcot if you lived in one of those homes.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah. The thing that stood out to me, speaking of
to sort of go full circle here. At one point
when they were doing the Katina concept art, they had
a Song of the South themed park in there.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
When I first went, they had one. It was called the.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And that that concept dark quickly disappeared. It was called
not Gotten the memo.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
It was called the Laughing Place laughing place looking place.
So if I if I buy a house there, it
shall be called the Laughing Place.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You know. It's at the corner of Bob Hope, Frank Sinatra,
and Gerald Ford drs. Which is I just think is
just so. He was.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Only one of them I've met. Just to let you know,
I guess which one I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Frank.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Oh no, I'm not that cool down a notch.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Oh well, Bob.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Not that cool either.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Okay, then we're going all the way down to not
just to to gerald Ford.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
One day I was I went to my tennis lesson
in Seal Beach at the tennis club over there, and
and my teacher was late, and I wear is he
And I look over and he's playing. Somebody's playing some
old man, and there's a bunch of guys in suits, uh,
standing around like they're ball boys, but they're man wearing
suits and sunglasses the pieces and I put it together
pretty fastical that is freaking gerald Ford. And then I
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got to meet him afterwards. He apologized for using up
my lesson time, and I dedicated my pumpkin to him
that year.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I think Cherald Ford apologized to you.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yes, yes, that is true.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
There's a lot of presidents that should apologize to me,
and he's not really one of them.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
But what will be on the top of your list
of presidents that should apologize for that?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
What the country did to my people moved him off
the reservations. Sorry, man Ill, we're over it.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Good, We're good.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Moving on to Yeah, Katino, So have you talked to
people that that in your world that what's the what's
the Do you think it's going to be success?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I think that's my question for you.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Is this going to be a success or is it
going to be like they're going to build twenty five
homes and then it's going to be like a ghost town.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Well, they're talking about building seventeen pattered homes out there.
So this is a staged thing, phased thing where they'll
they'll do it in phases. Disney has pitched this as
the beginning, like this is where they're going. But Disney
has started other things in the past and dropped them.
Remember they used to own the Ducks and the angels right,
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like they've gone down as these paths before where you're like,
does this really seem like it's their core business?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
No, but I don't think Yeah, I don't think Disney
has a whole lot of money invested in this. I
think they're there as kind of like a creative partner.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, I can help you with that. Yeah, they don't
own it.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
When you when you are buying these homes, you're buying
them from there's a couple of different ways. But like
you would buy them from the builder like Shay Holmes,
and you buy that lot and then you're you're just
dealing with Shay Holmes. But the Disney employees are curating this,
the imagineers are involved. And you when you when they
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take you on a guy the tour, you're being escorted
around by a Disney employee with a Disney name tag
and the same Disney courtesies that you would get from
a Disney employee. So it's really fun and impressive, and
but you you are not buying a home from Disney.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But have you ever been out to Celebration in Florida?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I have, and Celebration is super cool, beautiful town. They
have a Catholic church that I went to. It was real,
it wasn't fake. And but they Disneyland doesn't own that
any They backed out of that.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
They right now.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I mean they still have offices and stuff in celebration,
but yeah, I mean they've always been pretty careful. Like
they wanted to seem like Disney's doing everything much like
a Disneyland. They wanted to seem like Disney and Imagineering
does everything, but they don't do everything. They hire outside
contactors and they have other businesses carry the load of
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the costs. And it's more than slap their name on it.
But it is at the end of the day, they
are not you know, we're going to be hung out
to dry up this This place goes south.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And they also in the materials that I saw, they
can get out of it. They tell you right now,
we could sell it tomorrow and there would be no Disney.
You buy a house and we can sell it to
six Flags. Uh, you know, we can sell it to
Uh what could you sell it to? That would be
really not cool, like Santa Mon Santo or Chick fil
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A or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That would be great. If we sold to McDonalds or
something like that some way.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Taco Bell and they all look like.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Taco Bell would be great because they do have sort
of a lifestyle. Brandy, and it would be it would
be they have done Taco Bell has done hotels, so
that would be perfect, the whole Taco Bell neighborhood. I'd
love that.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Okay, well, I'm gonna that you go now, Brady, And
I want to thank you for always providing us with
a really healthy perspective by Disneyland and all the parts.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
That you cover with the Sun California News Group and
the Orange Kindy Register.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Great. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
All right, talk to you soon. Take a new all right,
Joe Scalante live from Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
That's about it.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I will now leave you with just a taste of
the greatest song ever written, and I we'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
It's all
I heard, I heard, I heard both the recording stuff
and recording in progress now, and I learned recording.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I just wanted to make sure. Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
All right, back again, Brady McDonald's theme park reporter for
the Orange County Register in the Southern California News Group.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
There's so much stuff going.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
On at Disneyland, and we are here in Southern California,
and then we got to catch up, and it's been
it's been too long, Brady.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Good, Good to be back, glad to be back.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
All right, so let's start with Tiana's by You. That's
the big thing right now. They reopened It used to
be Splash Mountain, which was based on a motion a
really old motion picture entitled.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It was directed by d. W. Griffith. Uh it's called
The Birth of a Nation.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
No, it's the song on the oh oh okay, oh
oh oh really that's what all the hubbub is about. Okay, wow,
it's different, Okay, anyway, that movie is not in anyway,
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I don't think Doney released that movie.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
They would like to say they didn't, but it's yeah,
it was. That was a second movie after The Snow
White and the Seven drawers. I understand, but it's become
it's a little dated, and they wanted to update the park,
and what better way to do it with than with
Tianas by You. They got a new restaurant, by You Adventure, okay,
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and they got any restaurant.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
What's going on with that? Because there's news, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I mean they started doing the annual passol the previews
on Monday. I wrote it on Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
We are talking to someone who wrote, oh Tiana is
by You Adventure?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been They've been doing previous
now for a few days, and then it officially opens
on November fifteenth to the public, and then they're also
doing cast member our employee previews right now. So people
are getting wet in October, which is not something I
like to do at at theme park.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And was it as wet as Splash Mountain?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I would say maybe even just a smidge more than
I remember it. I mean, they have not dialed this
thing down at all. But if you were to look
at it from the outside and you hadn't ridden Splash Mountains,
say two or three years, you might not even know
walking up to it that it's not Splash Mountain anymore.
But when you get inside you definitely can tell, particularly
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when you're on the log floom. They basically scraped everything
inside and started over, and they did a beautiful job.
You know. It's a it's a great ride for kids.
It's got a good story. It sort of takes you through.
The storyline is Tiana's throwing a Marti grass party and
she is to hire a band, and that's your your
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job is to help her pick out this band. And
the band are all these like little critters that she
finds in Louisiana that play sort of made up instruments.
And that's easy enough to understand and fun enough to
enjoy it. And I'd say you have to write it
a couple of times because you know, it is technically
a throw ride, so you're going through it pretty quickly,
and if you want to catch all the story, you
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probably got to write it a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, the Spis Mountain wasn't perfect. I'm just going to
say no.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I mean the way it was designed was like if
there is some gaps in it despite its very nature.
So yeah, it wasn't ever perfect, but people loved him.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
People loved it, but it was here was I'm saying,
I'm always sad to see any changes go. And if
they called me, I would have told them not to
change it. But I'm not going to have tantrum. But
the problem is sounded the song, not the Song of
the South, but the ride itself, was that it was
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a half ass combination because they had this really cool
Song of the South parts of it, and then a
lot of it was leftover animatronics from America Sings, which
was just a faulty. That was like a nineteen seventies
disaster for people like me who wanted to see carousela
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progress still in that area in Tomorrowland, and they put
in America Sings and I'm like, I'm not buying it.
And then they got rid of it and they took
all the lot of those animals and they just threw
them in Splash Mountain.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, it was a cost saving way to make a
new ride. And you know, I mean for people that
know the history, yeah, you would be disappointed. The most
people that don't know their history. It just looked like
a ride about a b of fritters.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It looked like a bunch of fun.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But yeah, and one of the things one of the
things I never realized was that it was called Splash
Mountain after the movie Splash with Tom Hanks. Oh, it
had just come out, and they're like, let's name it
Splash Mountain.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I know you're now you're dealing with my kind of
accurate news.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
They wanted to they wanted to throw a mermaid in there,
and they're like, now, we're not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So I dedicated to Tom Hanks, is uh nineteen eighties work.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, So I mean in terms of a missmash, it
just it is a total missmash, and or it was.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I guess that was a little more cohesive story and
theme that's going through.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, so he throws the dragon in there and stuff, you.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Know like that. But what they did do is they're
telling the story after the move right. It's not what
they call a book report. It's sort of it's a
it's a a sequel, if you will. And so there
are a few little things that you do need to
understand as you're going along. One, Tiana has set up
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a food co op and that's why there's all these
giant Louisiana plants growing along the side of the mountain.
And they also had to explain why the heck Tiana
is inside of a mountain, right, and so it's it's
a salt mine that she's running this co op in.
That doesn't make any sense to me at all, but
that's what they came up with. And then the second
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thing that people won't understand is there's a part in
the ride where you get shrunk down to like the
size of a frog and you see Tiana like she
looks like Godzilla right like she's looking at you through
this the three me You're like, oh my gosh, what's
happening here? What has happened to Tiana? And what she's
trying to prove to you is that you're really small now,
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So those two things you probably have to be explained
to you, But the rest of the rides pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Did they pull out those shrunken people from the Monsano
for while you're waiting in line, you can see how
you're going to be shrunk later.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They're just using the same, uh, same animatronics from there.
So that's all they ever do is pull stuff Tomorrowland
and put it over.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, they got that big micro microscope you see the guys.
I mean, I'm looking forward to seeing that now let's
go over to Tokyo Disney. I heard there's a there's
a there's a they're trying to take that one away,
but it's met with some resistance.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Do you know anything about that?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So that one's, as far as I know, is not changing. Obviously.
The one in Florida has already changed. The Splash Mountain never,
but the Splash Mountain and uh in Tokyo is not
changing for a number of reasons. One, everybody likes it, right,
so like why change it too? They don't want to
pay the money to change it, right. And Three, they
don't have the baggage that comes with American history of
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slavery and everything that goes with the Song of the South, right,
so they much like Splash Mountain. Here, most people wouldn't
even known it was a Song of the South and
the history of that movie. And in Japan they have
no clue whatsoever what you're talking about, right, Like they're like,
we just like Zippity Do Dog?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, what are you talking about? Zipity Do Dog?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
By the way, Zippity Do Do is my go to
karaoke jam when in Japan, and I recommend it highly
because anybody can sing it it's one of it's the
easiest song to sing in the whole catalog. And the
Japanese have it in their karaokes and I and when
you're there and you're forced to sing a song, you know.
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But now in Disneyland they don't have they don't have
any Song of the South songs playing in the.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Song of the South is thing completely wiped off the map.
And in Disneyland, even in the smallest places like any
any little spot, and so it's it's it's gone for
good now, it doesn't for people.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I think that the problem Song of the Solf was
it made slavery look too happy like that, it just
showed it in like these leaves are Look, look what
a great time they're having and and and they're having
this spiritual life and existence and and and that kind
of war on people. And in today's world, there's a
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lot of people that you're you know, they're gonna point
it out and say hey, uh, and they and they
try to point out, you know, stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
With every corporation. And then corporations have to deal with
it and this is how they dealt with it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But Disney has just owned the movie there. They won't
even show it on Disney Plus, like you can't see
it anymore. You haven't seen it are associated with Disney
prints since probably Bob Igers showed up.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
However, if you look through my Instagram, if you really
look hard, you'll see a picture of me in the
Walt Disney Company standing in front of a Song of
the South poster that was in one of the hallways
in the in the deep dark recesses of one of
the buildings.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I would say public facing they have disounded and then.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I don't know, and I will bet that poster's not
there and anymore either.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
But you know, whether it's a private company, they get
to do whatever they want, right, I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
But they have been doing a lot of this stuff
over the last four or five years. Yeah, it's sort
of trying to to clean up their past, if you will,
a little bit it and make it more appropriate for today.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, you can cry about it, but they're they're there.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
There's worse crimes in that in that place, as far
as taking away beloved rides and things that you have
an emotional attachment to. That's going on all the time,
and this is one that they might have done anyway
without the controversy.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I'm sure there'd be some zippity do those around.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But yeah, they're going to do the same thing that
Peter Pan are taking out.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Like what are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Oh, they've already announced that they're taking out or adjusting
some of the Indian scenes in that, which I forget
if they've done it in Florida or not, but they're
definitely doing it out here.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That's to be expected.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, but they're not changing the movie.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So yeah, and okay, let's see, I know I had
some other what else is going on? Because I know
I had something.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I'll get to it in a second, but it was
Tiana's yu oh yeah, Japan.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Oh the pricing the three oh yeah dollar.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So now I understand that you can get a lightning
lane pass, which means you can get in the lightning
lane and you don't have to make you can whenever
you want when right now the lightning lane is like
make a reservation and then use it and then and
it gets You can't be like it's it's it's you
can't make reservations like multiple ones and things like that.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Right Yeah, This lets you be more spontaneous, spontaneous, do
whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
To go where you want to go, but it's three hundred.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Dollars, no, four hundred dollars, four.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Hundred dollars on top of your ticket that you bought,
which might be another two.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Hundred dollar, So it could cost something like six hundred
and eighty nine dollars to get into Disneyland if you
get like the park harp around the most expensive day
and you want this sort of spontaneous what we used
to call, uh, you know, fast pass. That this is
the old fast pass that used to be free that
now costs essentially four inner books. What Disney would say
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is that the version that was fast pass and free,
you had to make a reservation, right you could only
do one over a time. They've never really offered this,
And what they're already talking about is that there is
a limit to this four hundred dollars Lightning Lane Premium
or Premier Pass, and so they're already talking about there's
going to be an Ultimate Pass, and the Ultimate Pass
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would be no limits. Right now, you can only ride
each ride once. The Ultimate pass is like you want
to ride Rise of the Resistance all day long, knock
yourself out, just here, six hundred dollars eight hundred dollars
whatever it is, that would be the ultimate pass.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Okay, And again we could cry and say this is
the ultimate elitist and when we're when I thought we
were living in a world where we were supposed to
have equity and even things out a little bit, But
now we are. The rich are going to have one
way to ride this thing, and the poor, like you
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and me, Brady, we are going to have to.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well you have your all your press advantages.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
But no, no, but what I would say, the poor
should be very very happy about a four hundred dollars
lightning pass, because this is going to take potentially if
take all the yaddho's out that are paying thirty two
dollars for a lightning lane and clogging up the lightning
laye line and clogging up the stand by lot. If
Disney eventually gets rid of a thirty two dollars you know,
you can only do one ride at a time thing.
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I mean half the park is buying that thirty two
dollars pass. That's not that's not elitist. That's just a
thirty two dollars tax on your ticket. Right, So at
that point it makes no sense You've got two lines
you got people to pay an extra thirty bucks the
people that paid the regular price. I mean, that's not elitist.
That's just sort of not a good way to run
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a park. And so having a four hundred dollars perth.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Thing, that's what the scuttle bud on the internet the
complaints are. And I correct, people are saying, how dare
you make Disney for rich people only? That's the that's
the pushback they're getting, right, I would say, you accept it. Yeah,
I agree with you that that is one of the pushbacks.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But my pushback would be this is actually a better
plan to have a premium priced thing. Then the line
and the lightlinge is going to be very short, and
that's better for everybody in the park because then the
people in the regular line get on faster. Right now,
the lines are kind of fifty to fifty filled, And
you're like, yeah, and so it doesn't make any sense.
This makes more sense. It might not make make people
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happy because it's expensive, but it makes more sense.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
The skip the line notion. It's not a skip the line.
If you get a plaid tour, there's not to skip
the line. Nobody's skipping a line. You're just getting a
little faster.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Of a line.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, I mean correct. Usually what you're going to get
with any sort of lightning laneage you're going to get
about ten minute one. That's more or less what you're
paying for. You're getting a ten minute line on every
single attraction, So skip the line now, but closer to
the front of the line for sure.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
My wife said she was lurking around the Club thirty
three Facebook page and she people were complaining about we're
not we're talking about it. And for those people, they
were saying, I'm happy to pay that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, this is a Club thirty three product, is really
what it is. It's that level of product, and it's
much like the vip tour the plods that give you
a tour that's like thirty five hundred and eight thousand
dollars a day, like and you want to do that.
If you have that kind of money, you can get
a premium experience at Disneyland that is something like going
to Club thirty three. They've always had stuff like this,
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the higher end version of this of the park. Just
most people don't care. Like nobody, nobody wants to do
the seventeen thousand dollars dinner at Disneyland. That's not happening
every night, right, But.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I've done that one though, you ever have not? Yeah, yeah,
I've done the big so like.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I mean, well, yeah, it's like I was hungry when
I left and I was not drunk.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, well I don't imagine you're going to get drunk
at Disneyland, but you should have been full.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Oh I can get drunk at Disneyland, but not there.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
But not when they're serving you. Like, I mean, I'm
not going to do anything in a way that's going
to get you drunk. But yeah, I mean there's always
been that experience, this sort of high end, high price experience.
If you're upset about that, don't do it. You want
to do it, and you think it's worth seventeen hundred
dollars for a meal for ten or twelve people, knock
yourself out. That's this is America.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
People like with this new Lightning line, like money doesn't
mean the same to them, you know, it just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And they're like, I'm going to die. I'm not getting this.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
This is the stage in my life, Like I'm just
starting to look at how much money I'm going to
have left over when I die and how am.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I going to spend it all?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yea. My attitude is like Disneyland is wildly under price.
This is not a popular opinion, but I think that's
why we bring you on because this is I think
Disneyland could charge I don't know, a thousand or fifteen
hundred dollars a day to get in and it wouldn't
be overpriced because if you look at like the price
of an NFL ticket or say a Tailor Swift concert,
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you were paying somewhere in a neighborhood of about one
hundred dollars an hour for that experience. Disneyland is open
for fifteen or sixteen hours a day. Why not pay
one hundred dollars an hour for that? You were getting
as much entertainment from Disneyland as you would get from
an NFL game or a Tailor Swift concert. It is
just all day long. And to think that that can't
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be priced appropriately at like fifteen hundred dollars is just insane.
I mean, they should be allowed to charge that. Clearly
a lot fewer people would go to Disneyland, but that's
probably what it's worth. And that's why to me, it's
an incredible barger, particularly when you can go on a
day when it's one hundred and four bucks to get
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into Disneyland for the whole day, that's insane.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I went to a club once in Tokyo when I
was younger that was one hundred dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Different, different setup though all you were getting getting some
other services there.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Businessmen were getting whipped, so yeah, it was, but.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
There was nobody dressed as a Cinderella or Mickey Mouse there.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, they had some kind of red Sonia outfits on
or something maybe it was. And I'm later literally businessman
getting whipped and chained up, and I was with my
wife because we were like, you know, we're just we
were we were just just being funny, and we gave
it a good hour. We had a few beers and
then we uh we got left the rest of our
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group inside there to do whatever they were going to do.
But it was a one hundred bucks an hour, and
so it's not unheard of one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You you are a renaissance man. You do it all man.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I might observe it. I might observe it, But all right,
let's move over to another topic. Today, they just released
a new video Disney did from the Cotino Project out
in Rancho Mirage where they are selling homes in a
Disney neighborhood that you know, uh, Disney desert homes.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Basically, it's Disney desert homes the highlight.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Instead of being built around a golf course, it's built
around a twenty four acre lagoon, Crystal Lagoon, where I've
been there twice, looked at looking around. They told me
when I was there that if you poured evy on
inside this crystal lagoon, Brady, you would have to filter
it first because it would be too dirty to go
into this lagoon. That's how clean it is until ip
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in it. I guess, and I don't know. Maybe they
have something some kind of you know, chemicals that'll wash
that away. But anyway, the Crystal Lagoon looks amazing instead
of a golf course, because think about it, it's one
hundred and fourteen degrees. You have some friends over. Does
anyone want to go to that golf course that you
live on?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But do they want to go to the crystal lagoon
and have an artificial beach and have someone bring you
umbrella drinks in a chase lounge?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Sign you sign you up. So I've been out there.
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
You know, I could maybe add some more real estate
to my portfolio. I have a small portfolio. Anything big,
it would be the biggest thing I ever got. But
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Looks amazing. What do you know.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I mean, Disney has done this in other places. I
mean they do it a lot in Florida, Prince Tag
a lot higher. They have a really expensive place in
Florida that's literally on the Disney World property that I
think they're like started ten to fifteen million dollars at home,
very exclusive.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I saw a thing on that today too when I
looked at the like Katina sent out a YouTube thing
to look at them, explaining it a little more like
showing inside of the homes. That's what they're doing. And
then YouTube went led right into that Golden Oaks or
whatever that thing is in Florida. It's like you could
walk to Epcot if you lived in one of those homes.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah. The thing that stood out to me, speaking of
to sort of go full circle here. At one point
when they were doing the Katina concept art, they had
a Song of the South themed park in there.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
When I first went, they had one. It was called the.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And that that concept dark quickly disappeared. It was called
not Gotten the memo.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
It was called the Laughing Place laughing place looking place.
So if I if I buy a house there, it
shall be called the Laughing Place.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You know. It's at the corner of Bob Hope, Frank Sinatra,
and Gerald Ford drs. Which is I just think is
just so. He was.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Only one of them I've met. Just to let you know,
I guess which one I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Frank.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Oh no, I'm not that cool down a notch.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Oh well, Bob.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Not that cool either.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Okay, then we're going all the way down to not
just to to gerald Ford.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
One day I was I went to my tennis lesson
in Seal Beach at the tennis club over there, and
and my teacher was late, and I wear is he
And I look over and he's playing. Somebody's playing some
old man, and there's a bunch of guys in suits, uh,
standing around like they're ball boys, but they're man wearing
suits and sunglasses the pieces and I put it together
pretty fastical that is freaking gerald Ford. And then I
(23:04):
got to meet him afterwards. He apologized for using up
my lesson time, and I dedicated my pumpkin to him
that year.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I think Cherald Ford apologized to you.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yes, yes, that is true.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
There's a lot of presidents that should apologize to me,
and he's not really one of them.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
But what will be on the top of your list
of presidents that should apologize for that?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
What the country did to my people moved him off
the reservations. Sorry, man Ill, we're over it.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Good, We're good.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Moving on to Yeah, Katino, So have you talked to
people that that in your world that what's the what's
the Do you think it's going to be success?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I think that's my question for you.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Is this going to be a success or is it
going to be like they're going to build twenty five
homes and then it's going to be like a ghost town.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Well, they're talking about building seventeen pattered homes out there.
So this is a staged thing, phased thing where they'll
they'll do it in phases. Disney has pitched this as
the beginning, like this is where they're going. But Disney
has started other things in the past and dropped them.
Remember they used to own the Ducks and the angels right,
(24:19):
like they've gone down as these paths before where you're like,
does this really seem like it's their core business?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
No, but I don't think Yeah, I don't think Disney
has a whole lot of money invested in this. I
think they're there as kind of like a creative partner.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, I can help you with that. Yeah, they don't
own it.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
When you when you are buying these homes, you're buying
them from there's a couple of different ways. But like
you would buy them from the builder like Shay Holmes,
and you buy that lot and then you're you're just
dealing with Shay Holmes. But the Disney employees are curating this,
the imagineers are involved. And you when you when they
(24:59):
take you on a guy the tour, you're being escorted
around by a Disney employee with a Disney name tag
and the same Disney courtesies that you would get from
a Disney employee. So it's really fun and impressive, and
but you you are not buying a home from Disney.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But have you ever been out to Celebration in Florida?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I have, and Celebration is super cool, beautiful town. They
have a Catholic church that I went to. It was real,
it wasn't fake. And but they Disneyland doesn't own that
any They backed out of that.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
They right now.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I mean they still have offices and stuff in celebration,
but yeah, I mean they've always been pretty careful. Like
they wanted to seem like Disney's doing everything much like
a Disneyland. They wanted to seem like Disney and Imagineering
does everything, but they don't do everything. They hire outside
contactors and they have other businesses carry the load of
(25:56):
the costs. And it's more than slap their name on it.
But it is at the end of the day, they
are not you know, we're going to be hung out
to dry up this This place goes south.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And they also in the materials that I saw, they
can get out of it. They tell you right now,
we could sell it tomorrow and there would be no Disney.
You buy a house and we can sell it to
six Flags. Uh, you know, we can sell it to
Uh what could you sell it to? That would be
really not cool, like Santa Mon Santo or Chick fil
(26:37):
A or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That would be great. If we sold to McDonalds or
something like that some way.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Taco Bell and they all look like.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Taco Bell would be great because they do have sort
of a lifestyle. Brandy, and it would be it would
be they have done Taco Bell has done hotels, so
that would be perfect, the whole Taco Bell neighborhood. I'd
love that.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Okay, well, I'm gonna that you go now, Brady, And
I want to thank you for always providing us with
a really healthy perspective by Disneyland and all the parts.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
That you cover with the Sun California News Group and
the Orange Kindy Register.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Great. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
All right, talk to you soon. Take a new all right,
Joe Scalante live from Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
That's about it.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I will now leave you with just a taste of
the greatest song ever written, and I we'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
It's all
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