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December 21, 2025 • 40 mins

Joe Escalante's weekly penetration into the business end of showbiz... This week: the latest from the Box Office (Avatar Ash and Fire blew away the competition, earning $24 million). Surprisingly, the new Spongebob movie didn't crack the top 3! Also, the latest from the Netflix/Warner/Paramount saga. Joe discusses the possible impact that this mega-merger can have on the film and movie theater industries. Sony bought a controlling stake in Peanuts... who knew Snoopy was big in Japan??? And, in celebs behaving badly, Corey Feldman makes an appearance, and Joe fights with AI over the tragic death of Rob Reiner...

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And now it's time for Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood.
If by Hollywood you mean we'rebie across the street promo
meaners and it's at that serves beer.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Joe Escalanta Live from Hollywood, that is true. This is
two hours of the business, end of show business, and
we do it every Sunday from five to seven right
here on k EIB eleven fifty on your AM dial.
I'm joined with Sam all Right, producer, How are you doing? Sam?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good good? How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Busy week? Had the Vandals Christmas show last night?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
How was it?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Two of them? Four of them? We had four of them?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Wow? You know my kid had four of his Christmas
shows at school, So I get Yeah, I get the feeling.
Y'all are on the same wavelength.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, absolutely similar. This is just the next step to
the Christmas pageant at school and you get a similar
Christmas experience. There's a few cuss words, but I think
it's funny that after thirty years, the guys in my

(01:24):
band that wrote the songs with the cuss words are
now a little bit embarrassed of them. Yeah, they're just like,
why do we do that? And now they're like, you know,
making excuses cutting some of the songs, cutting the nasty parts,
because we have a whole Christmas album been going on
for thirty years. Anyway. It was sold out last night

(01:46):
at the House of Blues and Anaheim. If you missed it,
buy your tickets earlier. I try to tell people buy
your tickets early, you know. So let's get down to business, Sam,
what are we doing this week? We're doing same thing
with movies and TV and that kind of stuff. But
of course we've got the big stories, Netflix purchase of

(02:13):
where are they buying, Warner Brothers.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
The flop of Paramount, Paramount trying to get in on it, yeah,
which is still it's still real.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
They're still trying. They still making arguments that they have
the better option. And we got some pretty good box
office numbers, some celebrity lawsuits. We've got a band that
finally a mega band that finally called it quits. And

(02:44):
I got some weird stuff, some weird lawsuits that have
been filed this week that other people don't know about.
This are things that just fly below the radar. The
basic deal with this show is it's started out as
legal advice for showbiz people, and as we move to
Sunday nights. Just nobody's gonna call a radio station on

(03:06):
Sunday night. So we're doing these stories but in the
box office because we like the movies. Did you see
any movies this week?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
No? I actually stayed in and did the streaming and
netflixing and watching YouTube. I was like me, I was,
I am horrible for the Hollywood industry and I actually
do need to start doing better by Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, you know, I mean it's a mixed bag. It's
like these TVs are so cheap that you buy at costco.
Oh yeah, ninety five inches wide and they cost five
hundred dollars and then got your surround sound for another
five hundred dollars. Pretty soon you got a movie theater
in your house. But it's a lie. I'm trying to
tell you. It's a lie. You got to go out

(03:51):
to the movies. But you know that. So the big
news is still Netflix is moving forward with their acquisition
of Warner Brothers Film and TV Studios, not not the
the channels or whatever like that. So this is a deal.

(04:13):
It's worth about eighty two billion. That doesn't really mean
a lot to people. I mean, what does that really mean?
Eighty two billion.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
That's a lot.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
And when you get into when you get into the weeds,
you're like, well, this offers eighty two billion, but Paramount
wants to buy and they're going to offer ten more billions.
So the shareholders have to look at that and go whoa, whoa, woah,
which one's better for us? Okay, So under the agreement
with Warner Brothers, Discovery would spin off its cable networks
into a separate company before the Netflix purchase closes. Now

(04:44):
that's called spin Co. You might have heard this word
floated around. Okay, spin Co is the cable networks, like
and you know, CNN, stuff like that. But this deals
far from over because Paramount, as we know, launched a
rival hostile takeover bid valued at one hundred and eight

(05:05):
point four billion, because they're buying spin Co also, and
they're offering a higher all cash price per share. And
when I heard the head of it's called Redbird Capital,
I think I heard him explain it why his deal
at Paramount from you know, the Paramount deal is better

(05:25):
for everybody than the Netflix deal. But I think the
only thing that's better is they might have a better
attitude towards movies being played in theaters. But other than that,
it doesn't make a lot of sense for Paramount and
the already got a studio. So like David Ellison, the

(05:51):
guy who bought Paramount, he already makes movies. He's got
the Paramount thing. You've got a network, television network CBS,
And does he really need Warner Brothers studio. I mean,
it just doesn't. It's not a great idea. And generally
it's just just try and buy everything, you know. So

(06:11):
if they get away with it, see if they'll get approval.
So but if Netflix, you know, takes all the Warner
Brothers movies and puts them on TV and doesn't put
them in theaters, then I think America suffers. So the
the Paramount bid is a hostile bid. So Warner Brothers
doesn't want it. So you know, it's it's still weird.

(06:37):
It still can happen because they can just they can
just buy all the shares and and get control of
enough shares and uh then the shareholders that they if
they control the share the enough shareholders, they will it
will happen.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
People think as far as shares go, that Netflix can
do to block that.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
And and have them buy more shares. Yeah, yeah, I guess,
but I think they're confident they're just going to win.
So and then it has to be approved by the government,
of course, because the anti trust laws, which we won't
go over because we go over them far too much
for a normal radio show. Let's go to the box office, Sam, Yeah,

(07:20):
we have time. Let's get too much started. We'll start
it okay, Now in the box office, the big story
this weekend most people know is the domestic debut of
James Cameron's Avatar Fire and Ash starring Sam Worthington and
his dog Spot, which opened with an estimated eighty eight
million in US and Canadian ticket sales. So I'm thrown

(07:43):
in the Canadian sales now because there's three or four
dollars in that. So it's number one at the box office,
opening to about three hundred and forty five million worldwide.
That's a lot for that, and it only costs two
hundred and fifty million to make this movie, so this
is a profit machine. Second place is the Biblical animated

(08:04):
feature David, with about twenty two million in box office.
But I think they spent like fifty million to make
this a Christian you know, in these Christian movies that
you know, keep doing better and better and better. But
to make a fifty million dollar animated film, that's wow,
that's a gamble. But they're number two at the box
office twenty two million, so they might they might make it.

(08:27):
And then they got a movie called The Housemaid nineteen million,
SpongeBob movie coming in at sixteen million, and the long
running family hit your Favorite Zuotopia two continuing to draw audiences,
and I think that's the next one I'm going to see.
If all the movies that are out there, Sam, I

(08:47):
got a few choices, there's no real It seems like
a lot of mid level movies. Would you go see
SpongeBob not SpongeBob? Would you go see SpongeBob or Zoutopia two?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
If you were me, oh, SpongeBob ten times out of ten.
I'm actually surprised SpongeBob wasn't number one this week.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Now, have you seen it?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
No? And I'm going to you because I have kids.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, okay, but what if you don't have kids? If
you're me and you don't have kids and it may
or may not even be legal for you to be
around kids.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'd still go see it. That's I'm much more of
a fan of SpongeBob and that universe than Zutopia. And
I like Zutopia.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Okay, Okay, I don't know. Sponge is Utopia is pretty
successful though? Yeah? No, I why is it SpongeBob successful?

Speaker 3 (09:40):
I saw the Firstbob sucks. Yeah, no, I saw the
first Utopia. It was a good movie. I enjoyed it.
I just don't know how excited I am for the sequel.
But anytime there's a SpongeBob anything, I'm going to get excited.
So it's just because I'm silly.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
All Right, We'll take a break and I'll think about
that because I have something thinking to do. Joe's go on, Hey,
live from Hollywood. All right, Joe, let's go on to say,
live from Hollywood? Why Hollywood? You mean Burbank. I got
some Hollywood news here for you, Sam. Okay, well, it's

(10:17):
not really Hollywood. You know what in my docket that
I make for the show. There's so little news in radio,
even though radio we cover it's entertainment industry. We cover
the radio here. I don't even have a radio section.
I noticed today. I've been doing this for like what
eighteen years? I don't have a radio section in my docket.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Wow. Yeah, I have very little news ever really occurs
in radio. Most of it usually just goes straight to
TV or the internet.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, there's really it's kind of sad that there's no
radio news. But I have some radio news right now.
It is Howard Stern. Howard Stern has signed a new
deal to stay with Sirius XM. Can you believe this
am through twenty twenty eight? Really a three year deal? Yeah, okay,

(11:13):
ending months of speculation that he'd retire. The financial terms
were not disclosed because the new terms reportedly involve Howard
Stern actually paying serious to broadcast his show and not
the other way around anymore. Yes, and he gets no

(11:34):
more lunch breaks and he has to pay for his
own parking.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
So he has to pay to have his show on
there and not the other way around. As he's like
not getting spot does he have to go fill her
sponsors himself?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Now he has to physically write a check to each
person forced to listen to his Show's that's it's different
than it used to be. I mean, it's cultural impact.
You have to admit it's not what it once was.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Oh, absolutely, yeah, his cultural impact started fading the second
he went to the serious.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yes, as soon as he moved to satellite radio, his
audience shrink compared to his peak terrestrial radio days like
the ones we're enjoying right now, Sam, Yeah, and longtime
fans argue that the shock jock, his edge that wants
to find him has been replaced by a heavy focus on,
like you know, celebrity therapy sessions and progressive, often woke

(12:39):
political commentary. So while Stern remains a big business asset
for Sirius XM, Sirius XM actually has to pay people
to listen to it as well. So that's what's going
on over there. Only a portion of that is true.
But hey, we're having some fun. No, I mean, he
made a deal, but I won't say what the deal

(13:00):
is because usually they're saying, like, Howard Stern made a
big deal. It's andy, and they talk about how big
it is.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, it's now you just hear about how much he
or you don't hear about how much he's going to
have to spend to keep that boat afloat.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, I mean I wonder what it is.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Well, I mean it's it's obvious. Once he you know,
you go away from terrestrial radio, you take the seat
belt off, and it makes it so everybody was listening
because they wanted to hear the crazy stuff that he
would say, or he would not say but would infer.
And then once you got to satellite radio, it made
it very easy just to say whatever, and everybody got

(13:43):
numb to it. Plus a lot of you know, like
the idea of him going well, keuesed to have like
one of his big things. You remember his movie Back
in the Day. One of the things he mentioned in
the movie about his life Private Parts was that lesbians
lead to ratings. If you talk about lesbians on the radio,
people are gonna think you're woke.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Why lesbians lead to ratings? Like yeah, I mean like
like in a perverted way, like, hey, these two chicks
are gonna make out with each other, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, No, the stuff that he would talk about anytime
you mentioned yeah. But now now now if he if
you mentioned that same content, it's considered woke.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's considered woke to talk about lesbian pornography. Yeah, I
don't I don't understand. Yeah, I don't understand. I don't
understand that at all. I think it's just simple enough, as
he went, everyone thinks they're gonna be able to take
their audience to some new platform and everyone's gonna pay
to see it, and they're not or pay to listen
to it, and they're not. If you have like if

(14:52):
you take espn uh and and you move it over
to something where it's behind some giant paywall, people are
not gonna they're not gonna buy it. Just they're they're
over that if you take Howard Sterney put on serious.
But I do think there is something to your theory
about the He used to have it like the the

(15:14):
used to wonder if he was going to get in
trouble and be and be kicked off the air for
these racy things he said. And now he can say
whatever he wants, so who cares? And now he's talking
about telling people to get vaccines and stuff like that.
It's like, this is the edgy guy saying if you
don't have a vaccine, you're a bad person, you know,

(15:35):
And I don't know who wants to hear that and
the people that And it's also all his his jokes
used to be just boobs and peepee pooh pooh. Yeah,
And and I I gotta say I never liked it,
so I'm glad he went into a satellite prison.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
It used to be edgy, and now it's just it's
not edgy.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
But was it? Is it edgy to go on the
radio and say I'm going to talk about poop and
I'm going to talk about boobs and sex, and I'm
going to dress up in blackface and talk like a
black person. I mean, is that edgy? It was like
it was juvenile the whole entire time.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, are absolutely juvenile.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yes, it made money, but it was a It was
an abomination to me as far as clever entertainment goes.
It was just, hey, let's get this person on the
show and ask them if they ever had sex, you know,
or what you know, questions about poop and sex, and

(16:45):
and bring in these the whack pack and have them
talk about poop and sex never ever, never. All my
friends loved it, But this is just a way for
me to tell you that I'm better than my friends. Sam,
That's all it. Anyway, I don't feel bad another person.
I don't. I used to feel bad for him, but

(17:06):
now maybe I don't so much. Have you watched the
new documentary on Apple TV called Corey Feldman versus the World.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
No, I have not, but I'm aware. I'm aware of
him and his trials and tribulations.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah. Well he of course he was a child star,
and then he got very controversial talking about you know,
molestation in the industry. And then he starts putting out
these videos that are insane with him performing places, and
it's become a joke, but in a fun way, like
you're rooting for him, like just go for it, do

(17:44):
your Michael Jackson dance, have your terrible songs and terrible
backup singers and play somewhere where everyone's laughing at you. Okay,
it's kind of fun. And but there's this new documentary.
I mean, you've seen a lot of documentaries and on

(18:05):
this guy and specials, and but now there's like, you know,
if one's on Apple TV. I got to see it.
I'm gonna watch this thing tonight because this guy is
you know, he is fascinating him. I did feel sorry
for him. I ran into a few times, once at
Nam and once once I was in my office at
Kung Fu Records in Huntington Beach at Old World. We

(18:26):
started the Old World German october Fest Village which is
a really great place to put your Hollywood office. But
I did anyway, and I'm just sitting there doing some
work behind my desk and Corey Filman just burst through
the door, and I'm like, I'm in Huntington Beach at

(18:46):
Octoberfest Village. What is Corey Filman bursting through my door?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
For it?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
He goes, do you have a drinking fountain? You know?
I guess a lot of officers do have drinking fountains
or water coolers or something. And I did have a
water cooler, So I'm like, I recognizing him right away.
I go, yeah, got a water cool right over here.
Let me get you a glass of water. And I
gave him a glass of water, and he told me
he was performing at the Octoberfest Banquet facility for I

(19:16):
think it was a meeting of the American Nazi Party
that day. I don't know what it was, but there
was like a Nazi bar in this place, not a
real Nazi bar, but the rat Scaler. A few people
that ever went there, you'll know what I'm talking about.
There was another There's a lot of other weird underground
things that at that place, but I've cleaned it up

(19:37):
it's a nice place. Do you ever go to the
Honeycoon Beach Old the world? You love it? You have
wi Internationals, Wiener dog races and stuff like that. So anyway,
I guess I rambled on so much that we'll have
to talk about Corey Feldman's shocking revelations after this break.
Jooascalante Live, Holliday Pay But Hollywood, you mean Bourbon. We're

(20:00):
going to go back to the Corey Feldman story right here.
The Apple TV documentary is now live Corey Feldman Versus
the World, and here's the breaking, shocking revelations that he
made recently in an interview. So the documentary follows the

(20:25):
former child star on a chaotic rock tour while he
revisits dark chapters from his Hollywood past. In the film,
Feldman recounts an uncomfortable encounter with the Light Lost Boys
co star Corey Ham from their nineteen eighty seven shoot,
describing what he perceived as unwanted sexual advances when they

(20:45):
were teens. This parked a major backlash when media outlets
interpreted his comments as saying Ham had molested him. WHOA,
but yeah, I mean this is what he's talked about
this before. Yeah, but guess what, he's walking it back. Basically,
he's saying, well, even physically molesting.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Emotional did it happen? Like what?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yah? What? Yeah? Yes, his mother or Corey hames mother,
who Corey's you know he's long dead. Uh. Hames's mother
has always denied these accusations, calling them exploitative of her
son's memory, And so he's now saying no, no, no, no.

(21:41):
I mean physically molested me is like emotional molest molestation.
But I don't know. I think Corey Fillman's gotta just
stop talking. Yeah, probably should. He probably should stop making music.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
And I feel like it's therapeutic for him. If anything,
I'm sure he understands like the like it's got to
be the same feeling that like Tommy Wes gets when
he knows that everybody's making fun of it, but he's
it's something that he enjoys and he I'm sure he's
got to get something therapeutic out of it, you.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Know what, Sam, I think you're right. I think you're right,
and I think he knows that people are laughing and
I enjoy it, But I just don't enjoy going around
telling people you're molested when you're only emotionally molested.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, you know that. That's a little.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Bit different thing. Yeah, because that's you know, subject to interpretation.
If you're emotionally molested, it's I'm not a therapist, but
I might be talking to when he's not disagreeing with me.
So yeah, no, you need uh JM.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Right, I need to investigate the emotional molestation a little further,
a little more in depth, so that I could get
a better idea of exactly why he felt like whatever
emotionally was happening to him was violating boundaries.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Why don't you get into my van next time I
come around, and I will emotionally abuse you and well
and we'll see.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Okay, okay, just bring just brought some Just bring some
rice Crispy treats.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I'm in Oh that's that what you like? Okay? Cool?
In a In a more wholesome story, Sony making a
major move, paying four hundred and fifty seven million dollars
to acquire an eighty percent controlling steak in wait for it,

(23:45):
Sam Peanuts. You mean Charlie Brown, Charlie brown Snoopy, the
whole Peanuts gang.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
They already yeah, yeah, yeah, they already owned thirty nine
percent of it, but that they want it all. They
want forty nine four one percent from the Canadian media
company wild Brain that I guess owned this like remaining
pieces and while the Schultz family retains the remaining twenty percent,
and you know they're just they've already cashed in a

(24:14):
long time ago. Good for them. The deal combines Sony
Music Entertainment Japan and Sony Pictures Entertainment and reflects more
than just a business play. Sam. I don't know if
you know this, but there is a deep affection for
the Peanuts characters in Japan. Oh yeah, Snoopy. Snoopy in
particular has been like a you know, just a mainstay

(24:34):
there for decades. Trends come and go. The kawai eh
what do you call that culture where everything must be
cute and you know, hello kitty, Yeah, you know that stuff.
Some are gloomy bear stuff comes and goes, but Peanuts
is always there. It's always when I go there. There

(24:55):
was a big giant Peanuts store in how Adjuku and
it's not there anymore, but you still see the Peanuts
stuff in all the stores, and the licensing is just
off the charts. They're on everything. I bought last time
I was there about a super nice green embroidered sweatshirt

(25:16):
that says Joe Cool says no way to everything. Huh, well,
it's it, I go.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
That that makes sense to me. Joe Cool says no
way to everything anyway, So they're going to own all
of it now and they love it.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
That's interesting to me because you know me, I like
video games and just about every ip out there has
video games, especially stuff like Disney and stuff that's as
beloved as Peanuts. Peanuts does not have a video game
footprint out there, really, And when I hear that Sony
is picking up more of the rights to them and

(25:59):
maybe they have more of a deciding say and what
happens with it. Maybe we'll see some actual Charlie Brown
and Snoopy video games that like we haven't seen him
since like Nintendo Era.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Well answer this for me, please, Yes, you're in the
video game world. Can you make a successful video game
with the Penuts characters without having them like getting into
their cars and running over prostitutes?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Absolutely? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, would be a quest top of a game? Is it?
Is it a first person kill game? What would it be.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
A good if you want to have a first person
style game. What a great one would be a flight
simulator game where you fly, you know, like as Snoopy.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
The Red Bearon.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yeah, like right there, that would be a great flight simulator,
a game where it could be animated, you could get
it make it a lot of fun to watch and play.
A great idea would be like a role playing game,
one where they go on an adventure and they all
have their own special skills and like ways to solve

(27:06):
problems things like that. Lego, for example, has basically taken
like Lego video games have taken every ip out there
from Harry Potter to Star Wars and have made a
unique games play style that is engaging and it's very
easily identifiable. You could tell exactly that's like that's a

(27:27):
Lego style game, and you have Marvel and all of
these different ips and there. I wouldn't mind seeing Lego
Snoopy as a video game.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I think you're you're given away million dollar ideas, Sam,
million dollar ideas.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I would love to see a little bit.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Of the Red Baron and he's like, you know, take
it back to World War One, Yeah, instead of he's
attacking the Germans and instead of mustard gas. He throws
pig pan at them. I'm just spitballing here.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I like the idea. I like the idea a dirt
bomb with pig pen falling out of the plane and
just exploding in a giant cloud of dust. That would
be great.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, here comes to Nurse Lucy.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Like like I can picture like one of the like
things that flies at you as an arrant football.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, an arrant football bomb.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Because you know those German those German hand grenades, they
don't look like real hand grenads. I mean, like our
hand garnads look like little pineapples. Theres are like they
look like billy clubs.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, they were like sticks.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
You ever noticed that?

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yah?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah? Sticks? Yeah. Anyway, enough of this, Why don't we
check the traffic. I'm very concerned for our people in
the LA freeways. And then we come back. We will
do more of Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. Joe ask Yeah,

(29:16):
Joe's come on here. I am okay Live from Hollywood.
The show that is on Sunday nights ka I B
for two hours from five to seven in Los Angeles.
You hear it on eleven fifty on your AM dial
and then ont the serious radio it's not on, but

(29:41):
on the podcast stuff you get an iHeart or you
get it, or you can listen live on iHeart all
over the world. A lot of people have done. Don't
know that, And now I'm going to say not a
lot of people. Not just not a lot of people.
Nobody knows that because every day someone's asking me if
I still have a radio show. So iHeart owns a

(30:04):
bunch of billboards, don't they or they used to.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
It still is Clear Channel. Yeah, you still see them
out there Clear Channel.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah. They could make billboards in my show, but they
choose not to because this is an exclusive boutique show. Okay,
this one's kind of interesting to me. Did you know that? Well?
In federal court right now, the Donald Trump Organization has
reported that they have reached settlements with several anonymous online

(30:31):
sellers in its lawsuit targeting unauthorized Trump banded merchandise. These
sellers were accused of selling counterfeit or unlicensed goods using
Trump related trademarks, including MAGA branding Maga branding across online marketplaces.
Fighting doesn't end the case, It just removes a handful
of defendants who have agreed to settle while the broader

(30:53):
lawsuit continues against others. And to the bigger question that
I have and you probably have, MAGA. So MAGA is
not part of the public domain. It's not just a
fair use to use it or a freedom of speech
make America great again. It's actually protected by Donald Trump

(31:17):
himself and his organization. So when I see these stands,
like they have stands all over I live in Orange County,
so they're there. You see them, uh frequently, and they're
selling all kinds of Trump stuff, and you know, they're
just printing it themselves and they're selling it. So at first,
during the campaigns, I'm thinking, well, they're helping the campaign.

(31:37):
Donald Trump should be very happy. But then after the
campaign's done, it's just a brand. It's just a money
making thing that that Donald Trump kind of created. I
think it's it's kind of like making America grade again
was probably political slogans all over the country, you know,
all the time since since the beginning of America. But

(32:01):
he kind of made it famous. And if he trademarked it,
all right, good for him. If they gave him a trademark,
then he can enforce that trademark against people who are
using it to profit. Now, the problem is some of
these people are you know, are fans of Donald Trump
or they're you know, they're they're fighting for the cause,
and then they're getting sued by the guy. So it's

(32:22):
got to be a little awkward. You know, there's a
free there in my town in Seal Beach on Main Street,
there's a brick and mortar Donald Trump store.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Does he got royalties from this.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
From that place? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
I wonder if they're going to get a cease and desist.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Well a lot of people have, but you know what
they are. There's like if you go to you know,
like any of these online T shirt places like t
spring or print full or actually princevill is just a manufacturer.
But these if you go, if you go on the

(33:06):
internet and look up Mega Shirt, you're going to see
a bunch of these little stores and it's just people
making them, you know themselves. And and he's got to
run around and stop them all because also the reason
why you don't, you have to stop them because if
you don't enforce this trademark, he will lose it and
then then his opponents could use it.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Now, so you got to protect you what if the
people making the products and distributing them are in Europe
or say the Middle East or another country.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
You bomb them' that's the easy part.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
But attached to it, yes.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yes, these the foreign ones you have to join this.
I haven't checked it in a while. I mean, you know,
it's something called the Madrid Protocol where you can register
your trademark in you know, multi regions and then you

(34:05):
enforce it based on this international mark enforcement and then
that's what he can do over there. But make America
great again in France, doesn't you know, No one's going
to be exploiting it there, So it's mainly for people
who are But if it's a company over there and
they're exploiting it over here, yeah you go after That

(34:26):
happens all the time. That can that can be done.
But very interesting now, things like this. Political slogans aren't automatically,
you know, free for commercial use just because they're a
political slogan in their populular So, but when you start
getting to stylize logos and branded merchandise like a red

(34:48):
hat with a white lettering, that can trigger a trademark enforcement.
So we'll see, we'll be following that Okay, I don't
have a lot of time in this segment, so I'm
going to I want to make sure I get to
the interesting stuff. Jane Addiction has broken up and they

(35:10):
have apologized to each other. For remember when Perry Farrell
fought the other guys in the band, actually the Eric
Avery and a longtime bassist and Stephen Perkins, and they
all fought and then they what happened was this. They
sued him after that and said, you made such a
mess of this band and this tour that we lost
millions of dollars and you're mentally ill, you're retarded, you

(35:35):
know whatever slings and arrows they shot at him. He said, well,
who what who? Whata you think? I lost you a
bunch of money? Well, by saying all that stuff, you
cost me money because now everyone thinks I'm retarding. So
they stewed each other and they I think they settled
and walked away. I mean there's a settlement. There could

(35:56):
have been some backdoor payment somewhere, but pretty much, you know,
Perry Ferrell was looking at a lot of defending a
pretty good lawsuit that says he, through his negligence and
immoral actions, cost them a bunch of money and then
but they blew it by defaming him, is what I'm saying.

(36:19):
So he went back to him, So he defamed me
in this whole thing, and now they were able to
get rid of this lawsuit. Okay, here's another thing I
want to end with. Okay, Nick Reiner, the thirty two
year old son of filmmaker Rob Reiner, his wife Michelle.

(36:40):
Obviously we know that whole story, how they were brutally
murdered and they rested the sun saying he did it.
So he's doing charge on two counts of first degree murder.
Can he use the inheritance that he's you know, arguably

(37:03):
bound to receive to pay his legal bills?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
It's an interesting question. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I don't I wish hope not well, for right now,
he needs let's say the the let's say the the
will or the says or the trust says I leave
ten million dollars to my son Nick, all right, can
he have it? Well, who's going to stop him? If

(37:36):
they don't give it to him, he can hire a
lawyer and say, hey, the will says this, the guy's dead,
give it to me. They're saying, yeah, but you killed him.
I haven't been convicted of anything, and he could drag
on the trial for years. And isn't he entitled to
his money? Well, there's something called the California slayer Statute.

(37:56):
A person who feloniously and intentionally kills someone from whom
they would inherit is barred from receiving any part of
that estate. But that's only if he's convicted. Right now,
he's presumed innocent. So it seems like he's got to
delay all this and get his money before they If
he convicted him, he gets no money. And if they
don't give him the money, he could sue them and say,

(38:18):
give me my money. So could he get more? Interesting?

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Sam, that's fascinating. That's actually anything is.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Here's the here's the last part. Yeah, when I, when I,
when I, I do a summary of all these legal
cases and then a lot of legal things that I
used to do not have time to read, and now
I have chat GBT to summarize a lot of legal filings.
And when I and when I had these summarized through
chat GBT, I got a thing in the middle of

(38:50):
it saying like the last thing it says is like
how those defense is being financed right now, remains unclear.
Could involve existing trust arrangements at least the court and
tell the carts will otherwise blah blah blah, and then
it just by itself says, I need to stop and
correct the record. First. This is chat GBT talking because
something important went off the rails earlier. Correction very important.

(39:11):
I'm reading the word for word. There is no real
case in which Nick Reiner has been charged with murdering
his parents and Rob Reiner is alive. The scenario I
previously described was incorrect. I'm glad we caught it here
rather than letting it go on air. Thank you for
flagging this. So let me reset cleanly and give you
some accurate and usable radio information. What's the actual situation.

(39:35):
There are no criminal charges against any child of Rob
Reiner for murdering his parents. There is no pending murder case,
no arrayment, no bail issue, no inheritance dispute tied to
such charges. Any stories suggesting otherwise are false and fictional
and should not be reported.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Wow. Okay, so chat GBT is not that good for research.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
I mean, can you believe that?

Speaker 3 (39:58):
That's ridiculous?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I mean, that's just sitting right in front of me.
I'm paying twenty dollars a month for this thing.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, you should get a refund.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, but you know, I mean, I double check everything,
of course, but wow. Yeah, all right. I want to
wish everybody a merry Christmas if I don't talk to
you about it before then, And I now leave you
with just a taste of the greatest song ever written.

(40:27):
Very Christmas. Y
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