December 15, 2024 • 52 mins
Joe Escalante's weekly cruise through the business end of showbiz. This week: the latest box office numbers (Moana 2 is #1), Joe's favorite places to golf in SoCal, and is the film industry going anti-woke???
Also, the latest from the George Stephanopolis/ Donald Trump defamation suit. Trump wins, again!
Also, the latest from the George Stephanopolis/ Donald Trump defamation suit. Trump wins, again!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Joe Wescalante live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank,
and we are across the street from a Wiener Schnitzel.
It sells beer, and it's two hours of the business,
end of show business. But today we have a podcast
episode because we are still slugging through the NFL season
where we're preempted all the time. Sam, when will it end?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I don't know. The Chargers seem to be pushing their
way through. I mean they lost today, so their playoff
hopes are dashed a little bit, but hopefully before the
end of the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, and then so we're you know, if it's not
a game, it's it's some Charger talk with the evil
Matt money Smith. It's it's hard. Then every once in
a while we're not preempted.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Isn't he your surfing buddy?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah? It was actually with them last night. Last night
was the k Rock Acoustic Christmas where the best managed
band in the world, Sublime, played at the Fabulous Forum.
I guess it's called the Kia Forum now with Beck
and three eleven and the Smashing Pumpkins, The Linda Linda's
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Jimmy Eat World for Franz Ferdinand's. It was an epic show.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I bet that their managers didn't hold a candle
to you.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
No, they are poorly managed compared to the Sublime outfit.
So we you know, we got I got a private
plane to fly the band back from Cancun because there
was two shows in Cancun butting up against this. I
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got a private plane so they could make the sound chip.
It's important. And then I went home for a little bit,
and because it had been a long trip, woke up
at three thirty in the morning. So someone says, you
know what, We're going to send you a car and
we're going to take send you home and then you
can just take your own car to the forum. Then
you'll have your own car. I know. It was kind
of a cost savings thing. And I'm like, all right,
(02:14):
I'll should go home, and they go home, take a nap,
and I come back to the Forum. I find out
they just they didn't even do a sound check. They
went shopping in Hollywood. So it's if I'm gone for
even five minutes, something goes crazy. But the it was
pretty cool. Yeah, Matt Maney Smith was there and that's
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pretty cool. So anyway, oh and then there's a private party.
Sublime played a private party. Private parties can sometimes be
pretty lucrative and most of the times or you say
no because why do you want to play a private party.
I'll tell you why you don't want to play a
private party, because you're not really playing for like, if
you're the Sublime, you're not really playing for Sublime fans.
You're playing for employees who were old, Hey, guess what,
(03:01):
some Blime's playing at your party, and they're like, you know,
a certain percentage of them go, oh my gosh, I
can't believe it. It's so great. But a lot of
them are like, I don't give a crap, free booze.
I'll be there and I'll be dancing. So this was
a private party in Cancun with Post Malone, Weezer, and
Sublime on the third day of their vacation. Other days
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they had like whiz Khalifa and Nelly. This is now
this company.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Roles, This is an after show.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
This is a private party in Cancun for the employees
of a power company.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yauser, Yeah, I thought we were special because we got
into California Adventure.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, you get California Adventure over. iHeart radio. iHeart Radio
knows about these parties, don't don't you know, make no mistake.
They know there's parties that have post Malone, Weezer and
Sublime in one night, and then it concerts the other
two nights and then this amazing resort. Anyway, I've never
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worked for a company like I. You know, what did
I work for? I work for iHeart, Paramount Network and
CBS Television. And what did CBS get? We got a
Christmas party that was at like five pm so they
could so that you wouldn't bring your spouse, You just
go straight from work.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
How did your wife feel about that?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I don't think we were married when they were doing that,
like kind of halfway through. But we did have a
nice party at less Moon Vesses. He had a party
at his house. I remember him sitting down to his
table and I was at his table, you know, all
these tables all over his backyard, tennis court and stuff,
and he sits down and goes, well, if it isn't
(05:00):
Joe Escalante, like, how did this minion get at my table?
And that's just the way it goes. Pal somethings. Sometimes
I'm at your table and you just got to deal
with it. Speaking of less Moonvest, where is less moon Vest?
He is? I think he's still in kind of a
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litigation over his firing from the CBS, and he I
remember the last time I heard about him is he
was having trouble, like like he can't get a table
and he used to be king of all tables and
now he can't get a table. So it's pretty it's
rough on him because you remember he had this He
got me too, and he was one of those guys
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that I said, here's all less Moonvest had to do.
He just had to when it came out that it
all happened, he had to give one hundred percent of
his net worth to a woman's group, a woman's uh,
you know, a battered women's shelter. I don't know, this
is my This is the same thing that that like,
(06:06):
what's the guy's p Diddy should do? Is that the
one in prison. I don't want to get the wrong
guy because.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
It's you know he did. He is definitely in some
kind of lock up right now, lock up?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, So this guy, I've said this before, but I'll
say it again. Maybe someone will learn from it in
the future. Bill Cosby the Big Ones, you got to
give one hundred percent of your net worth to an organization,
and you say, I'm just doing one hundred percent, and
then you go, just give me. Let me keep like
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ten thousand bucks to live on for the next couple.
You know, just I don't know. I land on my
feet now. Once you do that, somebody, for Bill Cosby
is going to go. You know what, I'll give you
ten million as an advance on your next series because
what you did was incredible and now he's working, or
you can at least do stand up because everyone will go,
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everyone will forgive him, and less Moonves could have done
the same thing. Just give it all the way and
then you can work. The problem with these people is
they fight it, fight it tooth and nail, and then
they can't work. Same thing p did, he's doing right now,
you're not gonna be able to work. So he says,
hiding money, and well, right now, you just say I'm sorry,
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admit to everything, even if you go to jail, admit
to it, help them catch other people, and then give
away all your money. Then you can work, because what
good is keeping some of that money if you can't work.
That's what I said. I don't know, how do we
get on this subject, Sam.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I don't know. We waltzed in kind of backwards into it.
But hey, it's relevant right now because there's so many
people we are talking about how less Moonvest can't get
a table anywhere right now. Yeah, maybe he can set
at a table that you're at now, because it seems
like he was miffed that you showed up at a
table that he had.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, he just thought it was comical, you know, this guy,
because you know, can you imagine what kind of guy
I was at corporate CBS. I'm already I'm playing at
night in the Vandals, and I'm I'm you know, making
TV deals in the day, I'm on tour with no doubt,
making high profile deals in the back of a van
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while my band opens you know, these arenas, and everybody
just like, who is this guy? And so I was just,
you know, obviously kind of a weirdo. And he says, oh,
the weirdos at my table. But he treated me very well,
as I've always said, so, I don't you know, And
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there was some provo stuff. It was just left over
from another era. This is my massuse. She comes over
all the time, you know, to me. I wouldn't have
a hot look at massuse come to my office. Its
just But in the old days that was, yeah, there's
a nothing wrong with this. I can have a massuse.
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But then when all this other stuff comes out and
then people start believing it and they're like, well, there's
that massouse that came over all the time. Anyway, I like,
let's move us. Let's not get me wrong. He can
sit at my table anytime. And okay, So we're in
the entertainment industry. That's what this radio show is about.
Let's start with the movies. We kind of don't start
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with the movie sometimes, and I mainly I mainly do
that because when you're on the radio, I don't think
people really want to sit through a bunch of movie
stuff at the top of a show. Maybe they want
to get to the meat of the story. Today, the
meat of the story is going to be a defamation
case involving a news organization and George Stepanopholis, Yeah, and
(09:42):
Donald Trump. We're going to get into that defamation case.
It's a classic case and it was just settled and
I'll break it down. But move as far as movies go,
I've been in Camcoon I haven't seen a lot of stuff,
but I did see Gladiator too, And did you see it? Sam?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
No, no, I'm not that big a fan of movies
about gladiators.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You don't like gladiator movies, Sam.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, no, I I learned my lesson from the movie Airplane.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well, let me tell you don't let that that's seen
in Airplane. I discourage you. Gladiator movies are great. Uh,
this one directed by Riley Scott. Uh, Denzel Washington. We
got a guy, you unknown guy named Paul Mescal Pedro,
(10:31):
Pascal Paul Mescal. I don't know how you pronounced it.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Sounds like it sounds like a delicious drink.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I must say, Oh yeah, very smokey. He hasn't done anything,
but he's good enough. And Denzel Washington not good enough.
I would say, he's kind of like this accent that
is coming in and out. You know, sometimes these actors
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doing this like what what what would your accent be
like if you're in ancient Rome? You know, they usually
do some kind of British accent, like I will condemn
thee to a gladiator match, you know. So he does
a little bit that, but then he kind of trails
off and the accent doesn't work. Sometimes it's not a
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major crime. Pedro Pascal always good, and he was good
in this. And the lady, the lady from Gladiator one
was in it. I don't know if you remember her,
Connie Nielsen.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The One Holdover. I guess yeah, she was.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
She was still in it, and she reprises her iconic
role as Lucia Lucilla. I don't know, but she's good.
And the movie it's it's not much as far as
the story and all that stuff, but the epic scenery,
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the special effects, it's it's magnificent. I mean, you just
can't believe someone's working this hard to make something look
this good, you know, and just thousands of extras that
look like real extras and not you know, artificial intelligence extras.
Really really magnificent. A magnificent film that isn't much. But
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that's kind of like the old the whole the like
an old school movie, Like you watch a biblical epic
from a long time ago, and that's just just a
epic masterpiece of film technology and special effects and seen
and and and production values and that. Then the dialogue
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and the story are like it's kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I don't know, so that's one and the original Clash
of the Titans. Where does this rank?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well, it's not that silly Clash of the Titans. This
is a little more grown up than that. And you
know stars in it halfway through or not halfway through,
but at some point you realize, wait a second, that's
the guy from Little Britain, Matt Lucas. You know him. No, No,
Little Britain is a comedy series that if you can
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get a chance to see any of these episodes of
Little Britain, there's only twenty three of them, but it's
two guys, and Matt Lucas is one of them, and
he plays like a gladiator. MC Masters Semester of Ceremonies.
But the pointing of that point, the point of me
telling you this is you better go out and watch
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Little Britain. It's the funniest things that was ever on TV.
You haven't seen it if I enview you, if you're
going to be watching it for the time and and
I know, sometimes I can recommend something and say, ah,
you you you might like you might not. Oh Sam,
you're gonna love Little Britain. Ah Okay, So that was
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kind of it for the movies, but we should look
at the box office and see, you know where everybody landed.
Did you see any movies?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Uh? No, I think the last one I saw was Venom.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But that was one of the ones I saw with
the kids. I was in the middle of dissertation and
comprehensive exams and I finished both of them. So now
I have more time.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay, all right, Well you know what good for you
with your with your academic work. What do you think
is number one in the box office right now for
this last past weekend.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I'm gonna wager I guess Malana.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Two very good. Guess Mona is same as last week
Molana too number one, Wicked number two, Craven the Hunter
number three, Gladiator two, number four, and Lord of the
Rings cartoon I'm confused by. I think it's a cartoon,
this Lord of the Rings, the War of the Row, Herom,
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And there's not a lot out there as usual. Like
I noticed that if I look at my movie calendar,
or my letterboxed or my like receipts from the Beltra
Theater and Huntington more igo. I mean, I'm going to
at least one movie a week, maybe more so. I've
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seen fifty. That's fifty something movies a year. That's not
fifty good movies these days.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So so it's interesting that Craven was number three, and
that's coming on the heels of Sony saying that they're
going to cut off that entire Spider Man, like the
sub story that they have off of the people from
the Spider Man universe. The well, see, all of those
movies were kind of disappointing, and especially the ones that
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they released this year. I think they had to get
rid of the Venom stuff because they had already built
the trilogy up.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
But okay, well, I mean it only did eleven million dollars. Yeah,
that's an opening opening weekend for a Marvel movie. Is
we call it a Marvel movie.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
No, it's a Sony movie. It's like, yeah, yeah, they're
Marvel characters, but they're the ones that were jettisoned off
back in the day with Spider Man.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And Spider Man does well with these when Sony releases.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It, Well, that's because they bring they have an agreement
with Sony to have it under the Marvel flag and
under their production team.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh and then Craven is just a bastard.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, more or less it's the bastard sibling of the
Marvel films, all of the like the they had I
think Spider Woman, I think, or something of that nature
that came out or earlier. They had Craven they had
the Venom series. There was a bunch of these movies.
I think Morbius was one of them. There was a
bunch of them that were just flops that they just
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basically said, we're not going to make any more of
these homs. I think they just announced that last week.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well I'm not interested in it, so you know, I'm
fine if they get rid of it. And as far
as whether it's a flop or not, Let's check out
the budget. The budget for Craving the Hunter. I mean
this is not official because you find them on the internet,
you know, really know the but estimated to be one
hundred and ten million, between one hundred and ten and
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one hundred and thirty million. And they're saying it needs
to get too. It needs to earn two hundred and
twenty million at the box office to break in, break even.
And this week it got eleven million in. And it's
not like people aren't going to the movie, Sam because
we just had the biggest Thanksgiving weekend box office in
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movie history.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
By the number of tickets or by actual like financial sales,
because if it's real expensive.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah it's money not adjusted for inflation. But it's either
the biggest or it's not, and it's the biggest. Some
of the weeks in the past have been, you know, terrible.
But we have people going to the movies. They're out
there and no one's going to see Crave in the
Hunter it looks like. But you know, they'll figure out
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how weigh it for two hundred and twenty million, They'll
get some foreign and then they'll and see somebody doesn't
have their own streaming things, so they will sell it
to someone else and they'll get some cash. So it's
not I wouldn't call it a flop. I would just say, Okay,
we make these movies and we put them out and
we're fine, and we make a little bit of money,
and so we make more money. Some of them we
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make more money than others. So other than that, on
the streaming world, I've been watching the Penguin. Have you
seen this?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
No, I've been meaning to catch it now that I
have a little more free time. Everybody's been saying the
Penguin maybe one of it's the best thing to come
out of DC that for sure for the last maybe
ten years. But it's also it potentially has like beyond that,
it's like an actually good series beyond comic books.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, it's it's it's very clever. It's just good. You know,
it's good. And the weirdest part about it is Colin
Ferrell playing the penguin and they so much makeup on him,
like you know, prosthetic makeup, and they made him look
like the creepiest fat guy. I mean, just like you know,
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just it's it's it's I don't know why they do this,
Like why isn't a crazy fact out there? There's a
good I mean, Colin Ferrell is one of the best
actors in the world, so I get it you want
to use it when he wants to do it. But
it's worth watching just to see, like, wait a second,
that's Colin Ferrell from the in the Shearing Movies movie.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's Impruge Banhi's of Vanish Sharon. Yeah, easily one of
my favorite actors out there. That's one of the reasons
why I really want to start watching this series. But
if you see the transformation that he goes through to
become the Penguin. It's amazing. I can't imagine how much
time he has to spend in a makeup artist chair
just to get ready for that.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Well, he's also a punk rock fan. Few people he
was at the Ramones Johnny Ramone Tribute concert at the
Hollywood Forever Cemetery. That the event they have to honor
Johnny Ramone's legacy, and he was there just munching at
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the In and Out truck where I caught up with them.
Here's a tape from that conversation. Just kidding. I did
talk to him though, but yeah, he was cool and
he had another series that was even better than The
Penguin And I can't remember it right now because I'm
just I should have written it down, and it was
like a Netflix thing. He played like a I don't know,
I forgot that one, but all right, let's let's move on.
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Said talking about things I don't remember. There's no way
I could remember it right now and retrieve it out
of my brain because I've been on all these flights.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
You wear so many hats.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Ah, you know what I do really right now? Really
only wear the Sublime hat and so I'm a guy
that has a sublime job and I have a punk
band on the side that's not bad. And then oh,
I got this radio show I do on Sundays. That's uh,
it's not that. It's not that much. Really still have
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time to golf a little bit and surf. All right,
So where am I I want to go?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
What are your favorite places to golf in southern California?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Like golf at the Old Ranch Country Club in Seal Beach,
Sam Okay, that's my favorite. And then I like the
Navy the Seal Beach Navy Base as a nice course.
I do not enjoy golfing in Long Beach at those
public courses. They're they're hideous. And other than that, I
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just kind of started golfing seriously, so I'm not really
very experienced. I'm very good, and I'm not haven't been
around at the Big Bear moon Ridge area of Big Bear.
There's a there's a nine hole golf course that's that's
beautiful and really fun to play.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh that one, you add, that's a tempting one because
for me, eighteen holes I enjoy, but I usually don't
have the time for that. Nine holes sounds great and can't.
You can't do much better than the scenery up there,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, it's very nice and the ball goes really far
far with the altitude, and they have a good setup there.
But it's only open, you know, from parts of the year,
and it's and when the snow melts, it's just beautiful again.
The green comes back. They have a driving range, so
and they got it. It's right by Bear Mountain and
it's owned by the people that don't Bear Mountain Snow Summit.
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All the ski lifts very well maintained, so that's a
good one. There's a there's one tom Belta be Taranea
arran AA's the hotel. Have you've been to tarran Aa, Sam, No,
I haven't got Tarrannea. It's a resort at the end
of Palace Verdi's peninsula and it's good for whale watching
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and a they have a I just found out they
have a nine whole golf course. They have a very
expensive hotel and they have but they have a place
called Nelson's and I recommend this place as a restaurant.
And Nelson's is a sea hunt themed restaurant. If you
you're too young to know that the TV show Sea
Hunt but TV the Lloyd Bridges stars as Mike Nelson,
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an underwater investigator in the nineteen fifties and Palace Verdi's
and then there's like always some underwater like maybe there's
a bomb left over from World War Two. It's got
to be diffused because the boy scouts are about to
go near it, and he puts on his gear and
he jumps in the water and he diffuses it. And
then someone comes along and tries to stop him, maybe
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a Russian spy, and they fight underwater and try to
cut each other's hoses. You know, that's what you do
when you're fighting underwater their scuba gear. Great series, great restaurant.
Didn't but you didn't know about the tea hunt seemed restaurant,
you know, pretty.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That sounds amazing. I'm a big fan of sa themed anything.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, you're gonna like this.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Okay, So let's get back to the news. Have some stories.
Let's go to the big one. This is a big one. Sam.
We have a decision basically or a settlement in a
major defamation case. Did you hear about this?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I know, I think you made mention of it a
little bit earlier, and I'm curious to see where this goes.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well, let me tell you something. We do defamation cases
here all the time. And it's a big part of
the show because it's the it's it's happen all the
time in the entertainment industry because you're you know, you're
on TV, you're broadcasting something, you're maybe you're making a
documentary or a true life thing, and you are saying
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things about somebody and you go too far and then
you sooner or later, you find yourself defending a defamation case.
So it happened in it was twenty twenty. George Stephanopolis
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was interviewing this legislator, some lawmaker, and was trying to
tell her, why would you why would you endorse President Trump?
A man found liable for rape. So the woman whose
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name was Nancy Mace, she's a public come from South Carolina,
and she had endorsed Trump, you know, and and then
so George stephanopflis, he made it the centerpiece of his
interview was going to be to humiliate her for endorsing
this guy who had been, as he said, George Stephanopolis
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found liable for rape. And then she said, why are
you asking me this. You know he has I agree
with his policies. Why are you bringing this this rape
thing up? I know why you're doing it. It's because
I was a victim of rape and this is a
public thing. She was a victim of rape, and George
Stephanophilis is saying, like, you're a hypocrite. You were raped,
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why would you endorse this guy who's found liable for rape.
And then she's getting really mad because she's saying, that's
you know, triggering for me because I'm you know, a
rape victim. You don't start trying to make me a
hypocrite over rape. And he's like, okay, but you have
to answer the question. He just kept going. He wouldn't stop,
wouldn't let up. Now it turns out she says he
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wasn't found liable for rape, so she corrected him, and
he still kept saying it, and I guess you know,
he had a civil trial and they said, okay, you
know how civil trials go, they're not unanimous. Just have
to have like a majority of the jurors say okay,
I think you are guilty of this one thing. And
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they said he was sexual abuse. I remember it was
the one where the lady said, I was in the
working in the store and he came in. He wanted
to buy a gift for someone, and then I was
showing him stuff, but then he took me and he
raped me in the dressing room. Okay, we don't know
what happened, but after what Trump has gone through, you know,
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a lot of people would say that is political, and
they'd pay people to destroy him because they thought he
was Hitler and they didn't want Hitler in the White House.
All right, So there's a lot of that. Trump says,
I never met this lady, and he said a bunch
of bad things about her. And then they said, Okay,
you defeate this is a nut job, and you evidently can't.
If someone says you rape them, you can't say she's
a nut job. She can only say it's not true.
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So she says, you defanged me, and I think there's
like a settle, like a decision against him. All Seff's
going back and forth. But let's go over the legal
definition of defamation. It has to be something. If it's
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going to be defamation, it has to be something they
said that was not true, Okay, and then it has
to be something that makes people spit on the floor,
like you're found guilty of rape or liable for rape.
I spit on the floor. It has to be that bad.
And then third, actually that's all you need. But if
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your celebrity, we go to this other standard, which is
you have to prove malice that they did it for
a certain reason. They perpetuated this lie for a certain reason,
and it was to cause harm. It wasn't innocent. So
in this case we have something is it true? Let's
go through the prongs. He was found liable. The charge
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was sexual abuse because the judge's like, it is no
proof that something maybe if we believe you something bad happened,
there's absolutely no proof that it was rape. In the
legal definition it was rape, so they wouldn't let They
said there is no rape. And this guy's saying he's
liable for rape. Okay, so it is false, not found
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lible for rape. So we got the first prong. The
second prong is, well, it doesn't make people spit on
the ground, Sam Di, would that make people spit on
the ground? If you would to make you spit on
the ground if you were told your neighbor was.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
A rapist, I think anybody would.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I think so except for other rapists. The rapists would
go yeah, you know, so we have the two PROCs.
So we have defamation. But since he's a public figure,
you can't just sue someone if they say you're a rapist,
because people in public figures they say it. You know,
(30:20):
it's interesting, why would you not be able to why
would you have to have this other level of proving malice?
And it's because people are People know that people that
are famous get accused of things all the time, and
you know, oh, he's a rapist. You know, people are
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saying that all the time. And so what the courts
have said is you kind of have to have a
thick skin if you're a celebrity because things are they're
throwing things at you all the time. However, if they
did it to harm you, and it's with that kind
of specific thing, like maybe the example I always use
is like if one actress spread a rumor and said
you were a rapist, and you were both up for
the same role, and that person wanted to get the
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role and they did it because of that, not because
they were mistaken or something or they didn't do their research. No,
they knew it wasn't true, and they did it because
they wanted to get that role and they wanted you
to be canceled. That would be malice, showing malice. You
had malice in your heart when you made this lie.
So did George Stephanopolis have an agenda that could show
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malice when he said this is a rapist something that he,
you know, as a journalist, should know it wasn't true.
You think there is Can you we make a case
for malice here?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Potentially? Yeah, but it also goes to exactly what was
said and how everything was said. It comes down to
a lot of different factors. But yeah, it sounds like
he was being malicious in his attempts to try to
get Nancy Mace to answer the question when she made
it clear that she wanted no part of it at
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that point.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, I think there was two avenues there. One of
them is like make her squeam squeeze her on this
rape thing. He doesn't want to use assault. He wants
to use rape because she was a victim of rape
and he's going to get her now. I personally don't
think George Stefanopolis is that mean. I think he just was,
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you know, thinking I got to get this. I have
a Republican here, I'm a right to ask tough questions.
I'm gonna ask tough questions. But I think the malice
is I want to harm Donald Trump because I don't
like Donald Trump, because I used to work for Bill
Clinton and he's in the Democrat side and we are
talking about a Republican side, So I want to harm him.
I want to cause I want to prevent him from
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getting into the White House because he's hitler. So we
don't have to prove whether he's hitler or not. But
if a court thought that he was doing that to
harm him, and he thought it would knock him down
a few pigs and percentage points, maybe lose him as
an election, that could be the malice. So either one
of those things, I think it's probably more like I
hate Trump, I don't want to be president, so I'm
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gonna call him a rapist, and that's going to and
people are gonna hear that, they're gonna remember it, and
they're not going to vote for him. I think it's
more of that because I don't think George Stephanopolis is
the kind of person that would want to hurt this
lady and cause her trauma over her rate. But either way,
we'll never know for sure because the case is not
going to trial because it's settled this weekend, and George
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Stephanopolis and ABC are paying Donald Trump fifteen million dollars Sam.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Wow, Oh hey, yeah, you know that's probably a with
everything that's happening going into the Trump upcoming Trump presidency,
it's probably a good idea for them to try to
remain on decent terms.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yes, put this behind you and pay the money, because
some of these defamation cases go, you know, in the
hundreds of millions of dollars for damages or whatever. I mean,
whether they paid or not or not. You know, sometimes
they reduce the judgments or you can't the client is
is or the defendant is has no money. But fifteen
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million plus legal fees, Stephanopolis and ABC have to pay
Trump's legal fees, and they have to apologize on the
air and say we did not tell the truth, and
we're paying this guy. And he's taking the money and
they're paying it directly to a foundation that's going to
(34:34):
build his presidential library. So maybe there'll be a Maybe
his name will be on George Stephanopolis will be on
there as one of the donors.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Might have to be Yeah, Stephanopolis brick out in front.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yes, a brick. So someone sent me a meme of
Trump and Stephanopolis. Uh, like having a conversation where like
Trump was saying, you work for me now, he worked
for me. It was like a gangster thing, like out
of a movie. They work from me, stuffing up Georgie,
(35:10):
Georgie boy, you work for me now. And then I
didn't know why why are they picking on him? But
then I had to google it and like there was
fifteen million dollars. So also, this is like the momentum
for Trump right now is so strong, like you know,
you don't And speaking of that, let's go to my
next story, which is, Uh, some guy wrote an article
(35:36):
saying that we are now in the post woke period
of motion pictures. Sam that the that we're not going
to have you know, naked wol agendas in the you know,
filmmaking anymore because they don't make money mainly, and you
have Trump sweeping in and everybody looking. And this happened
(35:58):
when Trump won last time. I had so many movie
executives call me and go like, hey, Red State people,
there's a bun a bunch of them, and now we
don't know how to make shows for them. Can you
come in and talk to us? What do you think?
What are your opinions? It didn't last long and then
pretty soon they went back to their woke ways. But
in this article is trying to say that when a
post poke era and the movie that they cided was Twister,
(36:23):
the Twister sequel that that was, and those people were
prescient for seeing which way the wind was blowing with
the American people because they decided not to be woke
on the Twister thing. What would you expect on the
Twister thing would be the woke angle that they could
have gone.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Sam anything involving climate change?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Obviously, right, yes, very good. And I watched the movie.
I kept waiting for it. It never came. That's got
to be a conscious decision, because you know, all these
people in Hollywood are going to like, what about climate change?
You know, can't we have like a like a mean
sheriff that doesn't it is a climate change or something
like that. And they just left it out. And they
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had a guy who was a podcaster and he was
a rugged He looked like more of like a he
would be the Trump fan and then and then, but
he was also an intellectual. And then he gets involved
with the scientist who was probably the Kamala Harris person.
You know, see how these dynamics that they're getting together
and they don't and they can they can resolve their differences,
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and and then they just ignored the the elephant in
the room, which is the climate change. And this guy's
trying to say that Molana was a This guy's name
is Robbie Colin that wrote this article, and he's trying
to say that Molana was like an anti woke because
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she was going out there and all she was gonna
do is reunite the tribes. And I don't know, I
watched the movie and just like it was.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
And again he's reached a little bit on that one.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, yeah, I speak. She was. It was like really
good to look at. The animation is amazing, it takes
you away. Loved it. But then the songs were I
don't remember one of them. So but he's saying it's
(38:22):
in contrast to Wicked, where el Faba is a holdover
from the Resist at all cost days. Oh yeah, I
guess you've seen that. Moan is like trying to say
everybody can just unite, and we're all going to unite.
But el Faba is hanging on to her resist at
all costs days, living her values loud and proud, even
(38:44):
if it means torturing her friendships, family bonds, and career
prospects in the process. And if I'm flying so low,
at least I'm flying free. Excuse me. Then they go
to Inside Out too. This one's kind of interesting. Inside
Out Too. After Inside Out one was like, I had
(39:07):
a lot of problems. They had a gay character, so
I'm not a gay kissing in it. And then uh,
inside Out too, there was a it was an order
from the Pixar studio make it less gay, and it
made a less gay. And not only was it a success,
it was the biggest animated opening ever. Sorry, no, I
(39:33):
don't have a cough button here at the studio. I
should get one.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
That would be nice.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
I'll put it on my Christmas list.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I'll find a cough button for you. They gotta have
an extra one around here.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, thank you. Okay, So that one's a little more believable.
Make it less gay because we're now in the post
woke world of the movies. And then this guy who
I like, Richard rush Feld, an author of a trade
newsletter called The Ankler, which I subscribe to. So we're
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talking to people with a Marvel Cinematic Universe voice in
the movies. This is how we're talking to people while
we're living in a YouTube world, and the YouTube world
is the people who are, you know, just kind of
less woke. I think would that would that make sense
to the less woke people on the YouTube?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Well, I mean, YouTube's gonna have just about everybody who wants.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, they have everybody, but but YouTube it's it's it's
not so much less woke, is that there's people out
there that are just gonna say and do whatever it
takes and be as offensive as possible because it generates clicks. Yeah,
I mean, you got this guy right now who's this
is an interesting case, not exactly Hollywood, but definitely YouTube
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influencer based. There's this good there's this guy in South
Korea who's now who's looking to be stuck there for
decades potentially because he did some really messed up things
that he was just doing it to generate clicks on
youtub and generate a bunch of people paying attention. He
ended up having his YouTube suspended, his TikTok suspended, every
(41:06):
bit of social media he had was suspended. And now
he's stuck in South Korea waiting for them to bring
all these different charges against him and potentially face decades
in prison. His name is Johnny Somali. You gotta check
out this case. This is a fascinating one.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I will. But you know what, better South Korea than
North Korea? That's what I always say.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Oh, he went around South Korea basically playing the North
Korea national anthem in public and doing everything he could.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
To be to just obnoxious.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, just as obnoxious and as offensive as possible, and
he was getting beaten down for it. It was an
interesting case.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Dam I'm not worried. I'm not gonna shed any tears
for this guy. Sam. All right, before we go, I
got a couple kind of interesting things. Number one is
Netflix is exhausted by Megan Markle. There's such a backlash
against Megan Markle and Prince Harry that she has. They're
(42:09):
exhausted by her. There. I mean, it's one of these
things where the Netflix gives one hundred and thirty million
dollars to Barack Obama to be his friend and then
let him make some shows. And they're not going to
really make any money out of it, but you know,
they love Barack Obama, so they want to hang out
with them. They don't want anyone else to have them,
so they give him too much money and he's never
gonna make it back. Prince Harry and Meghan I forgotten
(42:31):
much they got for a podcast. It was one hundred
million dollars or something. They generated like one episode, and
they're lazy people, according to the insiders, they just don't
produce anything. So now they produced a polo series about polo.
It's kind of tone deaf, I guess. But Prince Harry
(42:52):
plays polo, you know, the horse and the and the
polo mallet, and they're you know, it's they're going to
follow them around, I guess, and uh not your uh
figet out. I got some guy actually follow this guy
on Instagram like a famous He's the most famous polo player.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
In the world.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I am not a polo player, but I'm willing to learn.
So they're just saying that this thing, they're not doing
any promo for it. They're just going to burn it
on the on the service, and no one wants to
talk to her. She's exhausting, she's difficult to work with.
Is the word out there? And here's here's one guy
said about this. This is Tony Case. He's a marketing
(43:35):
expert and a writer. He told The Daily Beast, the
critics have you universally slammed the polo show. Harry and
Meghan are box office poison. Of course, everyone is running
away from it in every direction to not pick up
the stench of this colossal bomb. From a brand perspective,
I'm not really sure anything can be done at this
point to reverse consumer's obvious apathy towards the Sussexes. That's
(43:56):
the Prince, Harry and Meghan. They set out to conquer America,
but nobody here, it turned out, found them or what
they're peddling to be particularly compelling.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I mean, who on earth wants to watch Royals play polo? Well,
I mean who thought that was a good idea?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Well, it's also I think I heard one of the
problems with the show is that you know, they wanted
to do well. There could be like a reality show
and there's fights and there's you know, money, and but
I guess you can't tell Megan Markle to do it
that way. And then it just became a boring like
just watching paint dry with these guys riding around the
(44:35):
horses hitting the little ball. So but Nacho, forgetta figuera.
This guy is like one of the best looking men
in the country, the best rest and he's he's the
like the best polo player two or whatever you from Argentina.
So ladies are gonna watch it for that guy. But
(44:57):
other than that, it's just funny that these guys came
over here. And it all started when she said, let's hey, Harry,
let's renounce our royal titles and go to America and
we will get rich. I guarantee you. I've already talked
to some people and that was true. They did come
over here and get a lot of money, but now
they're nobody. So it's like when Howard Stern went to
(45:22):
serious radio. He's rich, but he's nobody.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, yeah, no, he got a boatload of money and
faded into oblivion. Which I mean, I'm okay with the
you know, Markle and the Royal and Prince William or whatever.
I'm okay with them fading into oblivion. I hate it
when people, just like with certain movies, that they insist
upon themselves. Yeah, and they insist upon themselves.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
They definitely do. I like the Royalty. I guess I
would be a Royalist if I lived in England. I
love it. I think it's great. But the guy's not
only abandoned it and they came over here and then
you know, and then there woke stuff and the climate
change and the just and it rubs me the wrong way,
and I you know, so I'm one of the people
(46:11):
that's that's like, well, then that's not for me. So
if you're if you're paying these people a lot of
money and you need to get the money back from
people like me, you're not gonna get any of it.
But here's where you I'll tell you where you might
get it back from me. Sam David Letterman is getting
his own Fast Channel. Really Yeah. He has four thousand
(46:31):
hours of original video owned by Worldwide Pants And I
know because I made that deal. CBS owns part.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Of it, but he had it.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
He uh So now they're gonna, you know, the Fast Channel.
I talk about these all the time, all the move
the TV channels. You always hear about them. They're going
downhill because nobody's watching them, and the and the advertising
revenue is drying up. But and movies box office decline,
radio advertising revenue going down except for in the show. Uh.
(47:03):
The only thing. Only places that are making money are
live music merchandising associated with that music. Uh, certain sports
like the NFL and fast television fast TV channels, that
is their their revenue is uh skyrocketing because these channels.
People are like, especially the cable cutters are like, hey,
(47:25):
I just noticed there's three hundred channels on my Samsung
TV or my LGTV or on my video yep, and
then and then not to mention the ones that are
online or whatever. But the smart TVs make it easy.
Samsung is far and away the best in the leader.
So you turn, you know, you just push uh what's
it called.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
It is called it's the live TV button. Then it
just pops up.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
And yeah, Samsung Plus, Yeah, Samsung TV Plus. If you
push live TV and you get to Samsung TV Plus
and you have what you basically have is free cable
and there's commercials. But so there's commercials on cable. Now
premium movies they have all your video and demand there.
So you can watch a movie for five dollars, but
(48:08):
you're no longer getting one hundred and thirty dollars cable bill.
And that's what a lot of people do. I do it.
I watch this stuff. I also have one hundred and
thirty dollars cable bill on top of it, because you know,
I need to watch this stuff for you guys. But
the David Letterman is an example of one that'll do
very well because you can just put it on and
let it go, and it's gonna and David Letterman's skits
(48:30):
and his guests. I don't know how much of the
music they'll be of the clear because music is a problem.
You have to go back and clear it with Howard
wrote these songs, So I don't know. Maybe they might
not even have music, but they'll have the skits, they'll
have the interviews. It'll be a time capsule. And four
thousand hours is a lot of hours, and that's going
to be a money maker for Worldwide Pants and for Samsung.
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And I'm myself, I might have said, I'm always trying
to develop stuff in the fast channel world like it,
but so that's where the money is in fact, But
the fast channels used to be a wild West where
you could kind of get in, Hey, I got a
bunch of footage of Kung Fu movies or motorcycle stuff
or you know, extreme sports or whatever, and then you
can get on one of these services and sell some
(49:15):
commercials and they sell kind of by themselves. It's like
a machine that's like generating an advertising revenue, and live
bidding is going on for these spots in these shows.
That's why sometimes you watch a show and it'll just
have no advertising and they'll just say we'll be right
back because that didn't get filled up in this like
hectic ad buying frenzy that's in that fuels the fast
(49:39):
channel inventory. But it's a it's moving. It's a world
that's moving, and people are getting used to their smart TVs.
So lettermans and the good ones are ones like Three's
Company and or you can just put them on, let
(50:00):
it go, just let it run, you know, and then
that's generating advertising revenue all day people who aren't really
watching TV.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah no, mine is usually just set to the Mystery
Science Theater three thousand channel. There you go, I'm a
Giant bird.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, I'll play that all day long. And then there's
but whenever I have these meetings about the fast channels,
they always tell me one thing. Who's what's the number
one channel makes the most money?
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Bob Ross, that's true. My kid watches that one all
the time.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
That's amazing. Your kid watches it, that's great. Oh he
loves painting the pictures, you know, doing the painting, and
people just put it on and they put it in
the background like an aquarium and just generates money. So
Laved Lenderman, Welcome to the Samsung TV Plus Fast Channel.
(50:53):
Universe TV plus goes to eighty eight million. No, sorry,
they didn't go to eighty We used to say like, oh,
this cable service would go to eighty eight million homes
or eighty million homes. Samsung's Fast service has eighty eight
million active users and says they've got a fifty percent
(51:14):
increase in global viewership year to year fifty percent. So
they they're the leaders. The arrivals are and trailing them
as Roku to be Pluto TV. And then there's other
ones like I mean even the Viszio has one that's
owned by Walmart, Byeland. I'm fascinated by it. And that's
(51:36):
the latest on that and I think that's I think
we can end it right there, Sam, all right here.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Then we'll have some music.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Let's leave people with just a taste of the greatest
song ever written. If you haven't bought your tickets to
the Vandal's Christmas Show, you better hurry because it's next
weekend and the Anaheim One will sell out like any
minute now, and the sand you'll you'll have to drive
to San Diego see it.
Joe Wescalante live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank,
and we are across the street from a Wiener Schnitzel.
It sells beer, and it's two hours of the business,
end of show business. But today we have a podcast
episode because we are still slugging through the NFL season
where we're preempted all the time. Sam, when will it end?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I don't know. The Chargers seem to be pushing their
way through. I mean they lost today, so their playoff
hopes are dashed a little bit, but hopefully before the
end of the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, and then so we're you know, if it's not
a game, it's it's some Charger talk with the evil
Matt money Smith. It's it's hard. Then every once in
a while we're not preempted.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Isn't he your surfing buddy?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah? It was actually with them last night. Last night
was the k Rock Acoustic Christmas where the best managed
band in the world, Sublime, played at the Fabulous Forum.
I guess it's called the Kia Forum now with Beck
and three eleven and the Smashing Pumpkins, The Linda Linda's
(01:20):
Jimmy Eat World for Franz Ferdinand's. It was an epic show.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I bet that their managers didn't hold a candle
to you.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
No, they are poorly managed compared to the Sublime outfit.
So we you know, we got I got a private
plane to fly the band back from Cancun because there
was two shows in Cancun butting up against this. I
(01:52):
got a private plane so they could make the sound chip.
It's important. And then I went home for a little bit,
and because it had been a long trip, woke up
at three thirty in the morning. So someone says, you
know what, We're going to send you a car and
we're going to take send you home and then you
can just take your own car to the forum. Then
you'll have your own car. I know. It was kind
of a cost savings thing. And I'm like, all right,
(02:14):
I'll should go home, and they go home, take a nap,
and I come back to the Forum. I find out
they just they didn't even do a sound check. They
went shopping in Hollywood. So it's if I'm gone for
even five minutes, something goes crazy. But the it was
pretty cool. Yeah, Matt Maney Smith was there and that's
(02:38):
pretty cool. So anyway, oh and then there's a private party.
Sublime played a private party. Private parties can sometimes be
pretty lucrative and most of the times or you say
no because why do you want to play a private party.
I'll tell you why you don't want to play a
private party, because you're not really playing for like, if
you're the Sublime, you're not really playing for Sublime fans.
You're playing for employees who were old, Hey, guess what,
(03:01):
some Blime's playing at your party, and they're like, you know,
a certain percentage of them go, oh my gosh, I
can't believe it. It's so great. But a lot of
them are like, I don't give a crap, free booze.
I'll be there and I'll be dancing. So this was
a private party in Cancun with Post Malone, Weezer, and
Sublime on the third day of their vacation. Other days
(03:27):
they had like whiz Khalifa and Nelly. This is now
this company.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Roles, This is an after show.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
This is a private party in Cancun for the employees
of a power company.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yauser, Yeah, I thought we were special because we got
into California Adventure.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, you get California Adventure over. iHeart radio. iHeart Radio
knows about these parties, don't don't you know, make no mistake.
They know there's parties that have post Malone, Weezer and
Sublime in one night, and then it concerts the other
two nights and then this amazing resort. Anyway, I've never
(04:11):
worked for a company like I. You know, what did
I work for? I work for iHeart, Paramount Network and
CBS Television. And what did CBS get? We got a
Christmas party that was at like five pm so they
could so that you wouldn't bring your spouse, You just
go straight from work.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
How did your wife feel about that?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I don't think we were married when they were doing that,
like kind of halfway through. But we did have a
nice party at less Moon Vesses. He had a party
at his house. I remember him sitting down to his
table and I was at his table, you know, all
these tables all over his backyard, tennis court and stuff,
and he sits down and goes, well, if it isn't
(05:00):
Joe Escalante, like, how did this minion get at my table?
And that's just the way it goes. Pal somethings. Sometimes
I'm at your table and you just got to deal
with it. Speaking of less Moonvest, where is less moon Vest?
He is? I think he's still in kind of a
(05:22):
litigation over his firing from the CBS, and he I
remember the last time I heard about him is he
was having trouble, like like he can't get a table
and he used to be king of all tables and
now he can't get a table. So it's pretty it's
rough on him because you remember he had this He
got me too, and he was one of those guys
(05:45):
that I said, here's all less Moonvest had to do.
He just had to when it came out that it
all happened, he had to give one hundred percent of
his net worth to a woman's group, a woman's uh,
you know, a battered women's shelter. I don't know, this
is my This is the same thing that that like,
(06:06):
what's the guy's p Diddy should do? Is that the
one in prison. I don't want to get the wrong
guy because.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
It's you know he did. He is definitely in some
kind of lock up right now, lock up?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, So this guy, I've said this before, but I'll
say it again. Maybe someone will learn from it in
the future. Bill Cosby the Big Ones, you got to
give one hundred percent of your net worth to an organization,
and you say, I'm just doing one hundred percent, and
then you go, just give me. Let me keep like
(06:38):
ten thousand bucks to live on for the next couple.
You know, just I don't know. I land on my
feet now. Once you do that, somebody, for Bill Cosby
is going to go. You know what, I'll give you
ten million as an advance on your next series because
what you did was incredible and now he's working, or
you can at least do stand up because everyone will go,
(06:59):
everyone will forgive him, and less Moonves could have done
the same thing. Just give it all the way and
then you can work. The problem with these people is
they fight it, fight it tooth and nail, and then
they can't work. Same thing p did, he's doing right now,
you're not gonna be able to work. So he says,
hiding money, and well, right now, you just say I'm sorry,
(07:20):
admit to everything, even if you go to jail, admit
to it, help them catch other people, and then give
away all your money. Then you can work, because what
good is keeping some of that money if you can't work.
That's what I said. I don't know, how do we
get on this subject, Sam.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I don't know. We waltzed in kind of backwards into it.
But hey, it's relevant right now because there's so many
people we are talking about how less Moonvest can't get
a table anywhere right now. Yeah, maybe he can set
at a table that you're at now, because it seems
like he was miffed that you showed up at a
table that he had.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, he just thought it was comical, you know, this guy,
because you know, can you imagine what kind of guy
I was at corporate CBS. I'm already I'm playing at
night in the Vandals, and I'm I'm you know, making
TV deals in the day, I'm on tour with no doubt,
making high profile deals in the back of a van
(08:17):
while my band opens you know, these arenas, and everybody
just like, who is this guy? And so I was just,
you know, obviously kind of a weirdo. And he says, oh,
the weirdos at my table. But he treated me very well,
as I've always said, so, I don't you know, And
(08:38):
there was some provo stuff. It was just left over
from another era. This is my massuse. She comes over
all the time, you know, to me. I wouldn't have
a hot look at massuse come to my office. Its
just But in the old days that was, yeah, there's
a nothing wrong with this. I can have a massuse.
(08:59):
But then when all this other stuff comes out and
then people start believing it and they're like, well, there's
that massouse that came over all the time. Anyway, I like,
let's move us. Let's not get me wrong. He can
sit at my table anytime. And okay, So we're in
the entertainment industry. That's what this radio show is about.
Let's start with the movies. We kind of don't start
(09:20):
with the movie sometimes, and I mainly I mainly do
that because when you're on the radio, I don't think
people really want to sit through a bunch of movie
stuff at the top of a show. Maybe they want
to get to the meat of the story. Today, the
meat of the story is going to be a defamation
case involving a news organization and George Stepanopholis, Yeah, and
(09:42):
Donald Trump. We're going to get into that defamation case.
It's a classic case and it was just settled and
I'll break it down. But move as far as movies go,
I've been in Camcoon I haven't seen a lot of stuff,
but I did see Gladiator too, And did you see it? Sam?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
No, no, I'm not that big a fan of movies
about gladiators.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You don't like gladiator movies, Sam.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, no, I I learned my lesson from the movie Airplane.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well, let me tell you don't let that that's seen
in Airplane. I discourage you. Gladiator movies are great. Uh,
this one directed by Riley Scott. Uh, Denzel Washington. We
got a guy, you unknown guy named Paul Mescal Pedro,
(10:31):
Pascal Paul Mescal. I don't know how you pronounced it.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Sounds like it sounds like a delicious drink.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I must say, Oh yeah, very smokey. He hasn't done anything,
but he's good enough. And Denzel Washington not good enough.
I would say, he's kind of like this accent that
is coming in and out. You know, sometimes these actors
(11:04):
doing this like what what what would your accent be
like if you're in ancient Rome? You know, they usually
do some kind of British accent, like I will condemn
thee to a gladiator match, you know. So he does
a little bit that, but then he kind of trails
off and the accent doesn't work. Sometimes it's not a
(11:25):
major crime. Pedro Pascal always good, and he was good
in this. And the lady, the lady from Gladiator one
was in it. I don't know if you remember her,
Connie Nielsen.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The One Holdover. I guess yeah, she was.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
She was still in it, and she reprises her iconic
role as Lucia Lucilla. I don't know, but she's good.
And the movie it's it's not much as far as
the story and all that stuff, but the epic scenery,
(12:09):
the special effects, it's it's magnificent. I mean, you just
can't believe someone's working this hard to make something look
this good, you know, and just thousands of extras that
look like real extras and not you know, artificial intelligence extras.
Really really magnificent. A magnificent film that isn't much. But
(12:33):
that's kind of like the old the whole the like
an old school movie, Like you watch a biblical epic
from a long time ago, and that's just just a
epic masterpiece of film technology and special effects and seen
and and and production values and that. Then the dialogue
(12:53):
and the story are like it's kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I don't know, so that's one and the original Clash
of the Titans. Where does this rank?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well, it's not that silly Clash of the Titans. This
is a little more grown up than that. And you
know stars in it halfway through or not halfway through,
but at some point you realize, wait a second, that's
the guy from Little Britain, Matt Lucas. You know him. No, No,
Little Britain is a comedy series that if you can
(13:28):
get a chance to see any of these episodes of
Little Britain, there's only twenty three of them, but it's
two guys, and Matt Lucas is one of them, and
he plays like a gladiator. MC Masters Semester of Ceremonies.
But the pointing of that point, the point of me
telling you this is you better go out and watch
(13:49):
Little Britain. It's the funniest things that was ever on TV.
You haven't seen it if I enview you, if you're
going to be watching it for the time and and
I know, sometimes I can recommend something and say, ah,
you you you might like you might not. Oh Sam,
you're gonna love Little Britain. Ah Okay, So that was
(14:12):
kind of it for the movies, but we should look
at the box office and see, you know where everybody landed.
Did you see any movies?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Uh? No, I think the last one I saw was Venom.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But that was one of the ones I saw with
the kids. I was in the middle of dissertation and
comprehensive exams and I finished both of them. So now
I have more time.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay, all right, Well you know what good for you
with your with your academic work. What do you think
is number one in the box office right now for
this last past weekend.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I'm gonna wager I guess Malana.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Two very good. Guess Mona is same as last week
Molana too number one, Wicked number two, Craven the Hunter
number three, Gladiator two, number four, and Lord of the
Rings cartoon I'm confused by. I think it's a cartoon,
this Lord of the Rings, the War of the Row, Herom,
(15:09):
And there's not a lot out there as usual. Like
I noticed that if I look at my movie calendar,
or my letterboxed or my like receipts from the Beltra
Theater and Huntington more igo. I mean, I'm going to
at least one movie a week, maybe more so. I've
(15:30):
seen fifty. That's fifty something movies a year. That's not
fifty good movies these days.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So so it's interesting that Craven was number three, and
that's coming on the heels of Sony saying that they're
going to cut off that entire Spider Man, like the
sub story that they have off of the people from
the Spider Man universe. The well, see, all of those
movies were kind of disappointing, and especially the ones that
(15:58):
they released this year. I think they had to get
rid of the Venom stuff because they had already built
the trilogy up.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
But okay, well, I mean it only did eleven million dollars. Yeah,
that's an opening opening weekend for a Marvel movie. Is
we call it a Marvel movie.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
No, it's a Sony movie. It's like, yeah, yeah, they're
Marvel characters, but they're the ones that were jettisoned off
back in the day with Spider Man.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And Spider Man does well with these when Sony releases.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It, Well, that's because they bring they have an agreement
with Sony to have it under the Marvel flag and
under their production team.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh and then Craven is just a bastard.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, more or less it's the bastard sibling of the
Marvel films, all of the like the they had I
think Spider Woman, I think, or something of that nature
that came out or earlier. They had Craven they had
the Venom series. There was a bunch of these movies.
I think Morbius was one of them. There was a
bunch of them that were just flops that they just
(17:01):
basically said, we're not going to make any more of
these homs. I think they just announced that last week.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well I'm not interested in it, so you know, I'm
fine if they get rid of it. And as far
as whether it's a flop or not, Let's check out
the budget. The budget for Craving the Hunter. I mean
this is not official because you find them on the internet,
you know, really know the but estimated to be one
hundred and ten million, between one hundred and ten and
(17:28):
one hundred and thirty million. And they're saying it needs
to get too. It needs to earn two hundred and
twenty million at the box office to break in, break even.
And this week it got eleven million in. And it's
not like people aren't going to the movie, Sam because
we just had the biggest Thanksgiving weekend box office in
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movie history.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
By the number of tickets or by actual like financial sales,
because if it's real expensive.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah it's money not adjusted for inflation. But it's either
the biggest or it's not, and it's the biggest. Some
of the weeks in the past have been, you know, terrible.
But we have people going to the movies. They're out
there and no one's going to see Crave in the
Hunter it looks like. But you know, they'll figure out
(18:23):
how weigh it for two hundred and twenty million, They'll
get some foreign and then they'll and see somebody doesn't
have their own streaming things, so they will sell it
to someone else and they'll get some cash. So it's
not I wouldn't call it a flop. I would just say, Okay,
we make these movies and we put them out and
we're fine, and we make a little bit of money,
and so we make more money. Some of them we
(18:43):
make more money than others. So other than that, on
the streaming world, I've been watching the Penguin. Have you
seen this?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
No, I've been meaning to catch it now that I
have a little more free time. Everybody's been saying the
Penguin maybe one of it's the best thing to come
out of DC that for sure for the last maybe
ten years. But it's also it potentially has like beyond that,
it's like an actually good series beyond comic books.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, it's it's it's very clever. It's just good. You know,
it's good. And the weirdest part about it is Colin
Ferrell playing the penguin and they so much makeup on him,
like you know, prosthetic makeup, and they made him look
like the creepiest fat guy. I mean, just like you know,
(19:35):
just it's it's it's I don't know why they do this,
Like why isn't a crazy fact out there? There's a
good I mean, Colin Ferrell is one of the best
actors in the world, so I get it you want
to use it when he wants to do it. But
it's worth watching just to see, like, wait a second,
that's Colin Ferrell from the in the Shearing Movies movie.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's Impruge Banhi's of Vanish Sharon. Yeah, easily one of
my favorite actors out there. That's one of the reasons
why I really want to start watching this series. But
if you see the transformation that he goes through to
become the Penguin. It's amazing. I can't imagine how much
time he has to spend in a makeup artist chair
just to get ready for that.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Well, he's also a punk rock fan. Few people he
was at the Ramones Johnny Ramone Tribute concert at the
Hollywood Forever Cemetery. That the event they have to honor
Johnny Ramone's legacy, and he was there just munching at
(20:41):
the In and Out truck where I caught up with them.
Here's a tape from that conversation. Just kidding. I did
talk to him though, but yeah, he was cool and
he had another series that was even better than The
Penguin And I can't remember it right now because I'm
just I should have written it down, and it was
like a Netflix thing. He played like a I don't know,
I forgot that one, but all right, let's let's move on.
(21:05):
Said talking about things I don't remember. There's no way
I could remember it right now and retrieve it out
of my brain because I've been on all these flights.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
You wear so many hats.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Ah, you know what I do really right now? Really
only wear the Sublime hat and so I'm a guy
that has a sublime job and I have a punk
band on the side that's not bad. And then oh,
I got this radio show I do on Sundays. That's uh,
it's not that. It's not that much. Really still have
(21:37):
time to golf a little bit and surf. All right,
So where am I I want to go?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
What are your favorite places to golf in southern California?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Like golf at the Old Ranch Country Club in Seal Beach,
Sam Okay, that's my favorite. And then I like the
Navy the Seal Beach Navy Base as a nice course.
I do not enjoy golfing in Long Beach at those
public courses. They're they're hideous. And other than that, I
(22:12):
just kind of started golfing seriously, so I'm not really
very experienced. I'm very good, and I'm not haven't been
around at the Big Bear moon Ridge area of Big Bear.
There's a there's a nine hole golf course that's that's
beautiful and really fun to play.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh that one, you add, that's a tempting one because
for me, eighteen holes I enjoy, but I usually don't
have the time for that. Nine holes sounds great and can't.
You can't do much better than the scenery up there,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, it's very nice and the ball goes really far
far with the altitude, and they have a good setup there.
But it's only open, you know, from parts of the year,
and it's and when the snow melts, it's just beautiful again.
The green comes back. They have a driving range, so
and they got it. It's right by Bear Mountain and
it's owned by the people that don't Bear Mountain Snow Summit.
(23:00):
All the ski lifts very well maintained, so that's a
good one. There's a there's one tom Belta be Taranea
arran AA's the hotel. Have you've been to tarran Aa, Sam, No,
I haven't got Tarrannea. It's a resort at the end
of Palace Verdi's peninsula and it's good for whale watching
(23:21):
and a they have a I just found out they
have a nine whole golf course. They have a very
expensive hotel and they have but they have a place
called Nelson's and I recommend this place as a restaurant.
And Nelson's is a sea hunt themed restaurant. If you
you're too young to know that the TV show Sea
Hunt but TV the Lloyd Bridges stars as Mike Nelson,
(23:46):
an underwater investigator in the nineteen fifties and Palace Verdi's
and then there's like always some underwater like maybe there's
a bomb left over from World War Two. It's got
to be diffused because the boy scouts are about to
go near it, and he puts on his gear and
he jumps in the water and he diffuses it. And
then someone comes along and tries to stop him, maybe
(24:07):
a Russian spy, and they fight underwater and try to
cut each other's hoses. You know, that's what you do
when you're fighting underwater their scuba gear. Great series, great restaurant.
Didn't but you didn't know about the tea hunt seemed restaurant,
you know, pretty.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That sounds amazing. I'm a big fan of sa themed anything.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, you're gonna like this.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Okay, So let's get back to the news. Have some stories.
Let's go to the big one. This is a big one. Sam.
We have a decision basically or a settlement in a
major defamation case. Did you hear about this?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I know, I think you made mention of it a
little bit earlier, and I'm curious to see where this goes.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well, let me tell you something. We do defamation cases
here all the time. And it's a big part of
the show because it's the it's it's happen all the
time in the entertainment industry because you're you know, you're
on TV, you're broadcasting something, you're maybe you're making a
documentary or a true life thing, and you are saying
(25:12):
things about somebody and you go too far and then
you sooner or later, you find yourself defending a defamation case.
So it happened in it was twenty twenty. George Stephanopolis
(25:33):
was interviewing this legislator, some lawmaker, and was trying to
tell her, why would you why would you endorse President Trump?
A man found liable for rape. So the woman whose
(25:57):
name was Nancy Mace, she's a public come from South Carolina,
and she had endorsed Trump, you know, and and then
so George stephanopflis, he made it the centerpiece of his
interview was going to be to humiliate her for endorsing
this guy who had been, as he said, George Stephanopolis
(26:19):
found liable for rape. And then she said, why are
you asking me this. You know he has I agree
with his policies. Why are you bringing this this rape
thing up? I know why you're doing it. It's because
I was a victim of rape and this is a
public thing. She was a victim of rape, and George
Stephanophilis is saying, like, you're a hypocrite. You were raped,
(26:41):
why would you endorse this guy who's found liable for rape.
And then she's getting really mad because she's saying, that's
you know, triggering for me because I'm you know, a
rape victim. You don't start trying to make me a
hypocrite over rape. And he's like, okay, but you have
to answer the question. He just kept going. He wouldn't stop,
wouldn't let up. Now it turns out she says he
(27:04):
wasn't found liable for rape, so she corrected him, and
he still kept saying it, and I guess you know,
he had a civil trial and they said, okay, you
know how civil trials go, they're not unanimous. Just have
to have like a majority of the jurors say okay,
I think you are guilty of this one thing. And
(27:25):
they said he was sexual abuse. I remember it was
the one where the lady said, I was in the
working in the store and he came in. He wanted
to buy a gift for someone, and then I was
showing him stuff, but then he took me and he
raped me in the dressing room. Okay, we don't know
what happened, but after what Trump has gone through, you know,
(27:46):
a lot of people would say that is political, and
they'd pay people to destroy him because they thought he
was Hitler and they didn't want Hitler in the White House.
All right, So there's a lot of that. Trump says,
I never met this lady, and he said a bunch
of bad things about her. And then they said, Okay,
you defeate this is a nut job, and you evidently can't.
If someone says you rape them, you can't say she's
a nut job. She can only say it's not true.
(28:10):
So she says, you defanged me, and I think there's
like a settle, like a decision against him. All Seff's
going back and forth. But let's go over the legal
definition of defamation. It has to be something. If it's
(28:31):
going to be defamation, it has to be something they
said that was not true, Okay, and then it has
to be something that makes people spit on the floor,
like you're found guilty of rape or liable for rape.
I spit on the floor. It has to be that bad.
And then third, actually that's all you need. But if
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your celebrity, we go to this other standard, which is
you have to prove malice that they did it for
a certain reason. They perpetuated this lie for a certain reason,
and it was to cause harm. It wasn't innocent. So
in this case we have something is it true? Let's
go through the prongs. He was found liable. The charge
(29:21):
was sexual abuse because the judge's like, it is no
proof that something maybe if we believe you something bad happened,
there's absolutely no proof that it was rape. In the
legal definition it was rape, so they wouldn't let They
said there is no rape. And this guy's saying he's
liable for rape. Okay, so it is false, not found
(29:43):
lible for rape. So we got the first prong. The
second prong is, well, it doesn't make people spit on
the ground, Sam Di, would that make people spit on
the ground? If you would to make you spit on
the ground if you were told your neighbor was.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
A rapist, I think anybody would.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I think so except for other rapists. The rapists would
go yeah, you know, so we have the two PROCs.
So we have defamation. But since he's a public figure,
you can't just sue someone if they say you're a rapist,
because people in public figures they say it. You know,
(30:20):
it's interesting, why would you not be able to why
would you have to have this other level of proving malice?
And it's because people are People know that people that
are famous get accused of things all the time, and
you know, oh, he's a rapist. You know, people are
(30:40):
saying that all the time. And so what the courts
have said is you kind of have to have a
thick skin if you're a celebrity because things are they're
throwing things at you all the time. However, if they
did it to harm you, and it's with that kind
of specific thing, like maybe the example I always use
is like if one actress spread a rumor and said
you were a rapist, and you were both up for
the same role, and that person wanted to get the
(31:05):
role and they did it because of that, not because
they were mistaken or something or they didn't do their research. No,
they knew it wasn't true, and they did it because
they wanted to get that role and they wanted you
to be canceled. That would be malice, showing malice. You
had malice in your heart when you made this lie.
So did George Stephanopolis have an agenda that could show
(31:28):
malice when he said this is a rapist something that he,
you know, as a journalist, should know it wasn't true.
You think there is Can you we make a case
for malice here?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Potentially? Yeah, but it also goes to exactly what was
said and how everything was said. It comes down to
a lot of different factors. But yeah, it sounds like
he was being malicious in his attempts to try to
get Nancy Mace to answer the question when she made
it clear that she wanted no part of it at
(32:00):
that point.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, I think there was two avenues there. One of
them is like make her squeam squeeze her on this
rape thing. He doesn't want to use assault. He wants
to use rape because she was a victim of rape
and he's going to get her now. I personally don't
think George Stefanopolis is that mean. I think he just was,
(32:24):
you know, thinking I got to get this. I have
a Republican here, I'm a right to ask tough questions.
I'm gonna ask tough questions. But I think the malice
is I want to harm Donald Trump because I don't
like Donald Trump, because I used to work for Bill
Clinton and he's in the Democrat side and we are
talking about a Republican side, So I want to harm him.
I want to cause I want to prevent him from
(32:46):
getting into the White House because he's hitler. So we
don't have to prove whether he's hitler or not. But
if a court thought that he was doing that to
harm him, and he thought it would knock him down
a few pigs and percentage points, maybe lose him as
an election, that could be the malice. So either one
of those things, I think it's probably more like I
hate Trump, I don't want to be president, so I'm
(33:07):
gonna call him a rapist, and that's going to and
people are gonna hear that, they're gonna remember it, and
they're not going to vote for him. I think it's
more of that because I don't think George Stephanopolis is
the kind of person that would want to hurt this
lady and cause her trauma over her rate. But either way,
we'll never know for sure because the case is not
going to trial because it's settled this weekend, and George
(33:30):
Stephanopolis and ABC are paying Donald Trump fifteen million dollars Sam.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Wow, Oh hey, yeah, you know that's probably a with
everything that's happening going into the Trump upcoming Trump presidency,
it's probably a good idea for them to try to
remain on decent terms.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yes, put this behind you and pay the money, because
some of these defamation cases go, you know, in the
hundreds of millions of dollars for damages or whatever. I mean,
whether they paid or not or not. You know, sometimes
they reduce the judgments or you can't the client is
is or the defendant is has no money. But fifteen
(34:13):
million plus legal fees, Stephanopolis and ABC have to pay
Trump's legal fees, and they have to apologize on the
air and say we did not tell the truth, and
we're paying this guy. And he's taking the money and
they're paying it directly to a foundation that's going to
(34:34):
build his presidential library. So maybe there'll be a Maybe
his name will be on George Stephanopolis will be on
there as one of the donors.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Might have to be Yeah, Stephanopolis brick out in front.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yes, a brick. So someone sent me a meme of
Trump and Stephanopolis. Uh, like having a conversation where like
Trump was saying, you work for me now, he worked
for me. It was like a gangster thing, like out
of a movie. They work from me, stuffing up Georgie,
(35:10):
Georgie boy, you work for me now. And then I
didn't know why why are they picking on him? But
then I had to google it and like there was
fifteen million dollars. So also, this is like the momentum
for Trump right now is so strong, like you know,
you don't And speaking of that, let's go to my
next story, which is, Uh, some guy wrote an article
(35:36):
saying that we are now in the post woke period
of motion pictures. Sam that the that we're not going
to have you know, naked wol agendas in the you know,
filmmaking anymore because they don't make money mainly, and you
have Trump sweeping in and everybody looking. And this happened
(35:58):
when Trump won last time. I had so many movie
executives call me and go like, hey, Red State people,
there's a bun a bunch of them, and now we
don't know how to make shows for them. Can you
come in and talk to us? What do you think?
What are your opinions? It didn't last long and then
pretty soon they went back to their woke ways. But
in this article is trying to say that when a
post poke era and the movie that they cided was Twister,
(36:23):
the Twister sequel that that was, and those people were
prescient for seeing which way the wind was blowing with
the American people because they decided not to be woke
on the Twister thing. What would you expect on the
Twister thing would be the woke angle that they could
have gone.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Sam anything involving climate change?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Obviously, right, yes, very good. And I watched the movie.
I kept waiting for it. It never came. That's got
to be a conscious decision, because you know, all these
people in Hollywood are going to like, what about climate change?
You know, can't we have like a like a mean
sheriff that doesn't it is a climate change or something
like that. And they just left it out. And they
(37:04):
had a guy who was a podcaster and he was
a rugged He looked like more of like a he
would be the Trump fan and then and then, but
he was also an intellectual. And then he gets involved
with the scientist who was probably the Kamala Harris person.
You know, see how these dynamics that they're getting together
and they don't and they can they can resolve their differences,
(37:26):
and and then they just ignored the the elephant in
the room, which is the climate change. And this guy's
trying to say that Molana was a This guy's name
is Robbie Colin that wrote this article, and he's trying
to say that Molana was like an anti woke because
(37:47):
she was going out there and all she was gonna
do is reunite the tribes. And I don't know, I
watched the movie and just like it was.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
And again he's reached a little bit on that one.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, yeah, I speak. She was. It was like really
good to look at. The animation is amazing, it takes
you away. Loved it. But then the songs were I
don't remember one of them. So but he's saying it's
(38:22):
in contrast to Wicked, where el Faba is a holdover
from the Resist at all cost days. Oh yeah, I
guess you've seen that. Moan is like trying to say
everybody can just unite, and we're all going to unite.
But el Faba is hanging on to her resist at
all costs days, living her values loud and proud, even
(38:44):
if it means torturing her friendships, family bonds, and career
prospects in the process. And if I'm flying so low,
at least I'm flying free. Excuse me. Then they go
to Inside Out too. This one's kind of interesting. Inside
Out Too. After Inside Out one was like, I had
(39:07):
a lot of problems. They had a gay character, so
I'm not a gay kissing in it. And then uh,
inside Out too, there was a it was an order
from the Pixar studio make it less gay, and it
made a less gay. And not only was it a success,
it was the biggest animated opening ever. Sorry, no, I
(39:33):
don't have a cough button here at the studio. I
should get one.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
That would be nice.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
I'll put it on my Christmas list.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I'll find a cough button for you. They gotta have
an extra one around here.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, thank you. Okay, So that one's a little more believable.
Make it less gay because we're now in the post
woke world of the movies. And then this guy who
I like, Richard rush Feld, an author of a trade
newsletter called The Ankler, which I subscribe to. So we're
(40:06):
talking to people with a Marvel Cinematic Universe voice in
the movies. This is how we're talking to people while
we're living in a YouTube world, and the YouTube world
is the people who are, you know, just kind of
less woke. I think would that would that make sense
to the less woke people on the YouTube?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Well, I mean, YouTube's gonna have just about everybody who wants.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, they have everybody, but but YouTube it's it's it's
not so much less woke, is that there's people out
there that are just gonna say and do whatever it
takes and be as offensive as possible because it generates clicks. Yeah,
I mean, you got this guy right now who's this
is an interesting case, not exactly Hollywood, but definitely YouTube
(40:46):
influencer based. There's this good there's this guy in South
Korea who's now who's looking to be stuck there for
decades potentially because he did some really messed up things
that he was just doing it to generate clicks on
youtub and generate a bunch of people paying attention. He
ended up having his YouTube suspended, his TikTok suspended, every
(41:06):
bit of social media he had was suspended. And now
he's stuck in South Korea waiting for them to bring
all these different charges against him and potentially face decades
in prison. His name is Johnny Somali. You gotta check
out this case. This is a fascinating one.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I will. But you know what, better South Korea than
North Korea? That's what I always say.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Oh, he went around South Korea basically playing the North
Korea national anthem in public and doing everything he could.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
To be to just obnoxious.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, just as obnoxious and as offensive as possible, and
he was getting beaten down for it. It was an
interesting case.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Dam I'm not worried. I'm not gonna shed any tears
for this guy. Sam. All right, before we go, I
got a couple kind of interesting things. Number one is
Netflix is exhausted by Megan Markle. There's such a backlash
against Megan Markle and Prince Harry that she has. They're
(42:09):
exhausted by her. There. I mean, it's one of these
things where the Netflix gives one hundred and thirty million
dollars to Barack Obama to be his friend and then
let him make some shows. And they're not going to
really make any money out of it, but you know,
they love Barack Obama, so they want to hang out
with them. They don't want anyone else to have them,
so they give him too much money and he's never
gonna make it back. Prince Harry and Meghan I forgotten
(42:31):
much they got for a podcast. It was one hundred
million dollars or something. They generated like one episode, and
they're lazy people, according to the insiders, they just don't
produce anything. So now they produced a polo series about polo.
It's kind of tone deaf, I guess. But Prince Harry
(42:52):
plays polo, you know, the horse and the and the
polo mallet, and they're you know, it's they're going to
follow them around, I guess, and uh not your uh
figet out. I got some guy actually follow this guy
on Instagram like a famous He's the most famous polo player.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
In the world.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I am not a polo player, but I'm willing to learn.
So they're just saying that this thing, they're not doing
any promo for it. They're just going to burn it
on the on the service, and no one wants to
talk to her. She's exhausting, she's difficult to work with.
Is the word out there? And here's here's one guy
said about this. This is Tony Case. He's a marketing
(43:35):
expert and a writer. He told The Daily Beast, the
critics have you universally slammed the polo show. Harry and
Meghan are box office poison. Of course, everyone is running
away from it in every direction to not pick up
the stench of this colossal bomb. From a brand perspective,
I'm not really sure anything can be done at this
point to reverse consumer's obvious apathy towards the Sussexes. That's
(43:56):
the Prince, Harry and Meghan. They set out to conquer America,
but nobody here, it turned out, found them or what
they're peddling to be particularly compelling.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I mean, who on earth wants to watch Royals play polo? Well,
I mean who thought that was a good idea?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Well, it's also I think I heard one of the
problems with the show is that you know, they wanted
to do well. There could be like a reality show
and there's fights and there's you know, money, and but
I guess you can't tell Megan Markle to do it
that way. And then it just became a boring like
just watching paint dry with these guys riding around the
(44:35):
horses hitting the little ball. So but Nacho, forgetta figuera.
This guy is like one of the best looking men
in the country, the best rest and he's he's the
like the best polo player two or whatever you from Argentina.
So ladies are gonna watch it for that guy. But
(44:57):
other than that, it's just funny that these guys came
over here. And it all started when she said, let's hey, Harry,
let's renounce our royal titles and go to America and
we will get rich. I guarantee you. I've already talked
to some people and that was true. They did come
over here and get a lot of money, but now
they're nobody. So it's like when Howard Stern went to
(45:22):
serious radio. He's rich, but he's nobody.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, yeah, no, he got a boatload of money and
faded into oblivion. Which I mean, I'm okay with the
you know, Markle and the Royal and Prince William or whatever.
I'm okay with them fading into oblivion. I hate it
when people, just like with certain movies, that they insist
upon themselves. Yeah, and they insist upon themselves.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
They definitely do. I like the Royalty. I guess I
would be a Royalist if I lived in England. I
love it. I think it's great. But the guy's not
only abandoned it and they came over here and then
you know, and then there woke stuff and the climate
change and the just and it rubs me the wrong way,
and I you know, so I'm one of the people
(46:11):
that's that's like, well, then that's not for me. So
if you're if you're paying these people a lot of
money and you need to get the money back from
people like me, you're not gonna get any of it.
But here's where you I'll tell you where you might
get it back from me. Sam David Letterman is getting
his own Fast Channel. Really Yeah. He has four thousand
(46:31):
hours of original video owned by Worldwide Pants And I
know because I made that deal. CBS owns part.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Of it, but he had it.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
He uh So now they're gonna, you know, the Fast Channel.
I talk about these all the time, all the move
the TV channels. You always hear about them. They're going
downhill because nobody's watching them, and the and the advertising
revenue is drying up. But and movies box office decline,
radio advertising revenue going down except for in the show. Uh.
(47:03):
The only thing. Only places that are making money are
live music merchandising associated with that music. Uh, certain sports
like the NFL and fast television fast TV channels, that
is their their revenue is uh skyrocketing because these channels.
People are like, especially the cable cutters are like, hey,
(47:25):
I just noticed there's three hundred channels on my Samsung
TV or my LGTV or on my video yep, and
then and then not to mention the ones that are
online or whatever. But the smart TVs make it easy.
Samsung is far and away the best in the leader.
So you turn, you know, you just push uh what's
it called.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
It is called it's the live TV button. Then it
just pops up.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
And yeah, Samsung Plus, Yeah, Samsung TV Plus. If you
push live TV and you get to Samsung TV Plus
and you have what you basically have is free cable
and there's commercials. But so there's commercials on cable. Now
premium movies they have all your video and demand there.
So you can watch a movie for five dollars, but
(48:08):
you're no longer getting one hundred and thirty dollars cable bill.
And that's what a lot of people do. I do it.
I watch this stuff. I also have one hundred and
thirty dollars cable bill on top of it, because you know,
I need to watch this stuff for you guys. But
the David Letterman is an example of one that'll do
very well because you can just put it on and
let it go, and it's gonna and David Letterman's skits
(48:30):
and his guests. I don't know how much of the
music they'll be of the clear because music is a problem.
You have to go back and clear it with Howard
wrote these songs, So I don't know. Maybe they might
not even have music, but they'll have the skits, they'll
have the interviews. It'll be a time capsule. And four
thousand hours is a lot of hours, and that's going
to be a money maker for Worldwide Pants and for Samsung.
(48:53):
And I'm myself, I might have said, I'm always trying
to develop stuff in the fast channel world like it,
but so that's where the money is in fact, But
the fast channels used to be a wild West where
you could kind of get in, Hey, I got a
bunch of footage of Kung Fu movies or motorcycle stuff
or you know, extreme sports or whatever, and then you
can get on one of these services and sell some
(49:15):
commercials and they sell kind of by themselves. It's like
a machine that's like generating an advertising revenue, and live
bidding is going on for these spots in these shows.
That's why sometimes you watch a show and it'll just
have no advertising and they'll just say we'll be right
back because that didn't get filled up in this like
hectic ad buying frenzy that's in that fuels the fast
(49:39):
channel inventory. But it's a it's moving. It's a world
that's moving, and people are getting used to their smart TVs.
So lettermans and the good ones are ones like Three's
Company and or you can just put them on, let
(50:00):
it go, just let it run, you know, and then
that's generating advertising revenue all day people who aren't really
watching TV.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah no, mine is usually just set to the Mystery
Science Theater three thousand channel. There you go, I'm a
Giant bird.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, I'll play that all day long. And then there's
but whenever I have these meetings about the fast channels,
they always tell me one thing. Who's what's the number
one channel makes the most money?
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Bob Ross, that's true. My kid watches that one all
the time.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
That's amazing. Your kid watches it, that's great. Oh he
loves painting the pictures, you know, doing the painting, and
people just put it on and they put it in
the background like an aquarium and just generates money. So
Laved Lenderman, Welcome to the Samsung TV Plus Fast Channel.
(50:53):
Universe TV plus goes to eighty eight million. No, sorry,
they didn't go to eighty We used to say like, oh,
this cable service would go to eighty eight million homes
or eighty million homes. Samsung's Fast service has eighty eight
million active users and says they've got a fifty percent
(51:14):
increase in global viewership year to year fifty percent. So
they they're the leaders. The arrivals are and trailing them
as Roku to be Pluto TV. And then there's other
ones like I mean even the Viszio has one that's
owned by Walmart, Byeland. I'm fascinated by it. And that's
(51:36):
the latest on that and I think that's I think
we can end it right there, Sam, all right here.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Then we'll have some music.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Let's leave people with just a taste of the greatest
song ever written. If you haven't bought your tickets to
the Vandal's Christmas Show, you better hurry because it's next
weekend and the Anaheim One will sell out like any
minute now, and the sand you'll you'll have to drive
to San Diego see it.
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