Kneecap Gets Kneecapped

Joe Escalante's weekly trip into the business end of showbiz. This week... Joe talks about the controversial Kneecap performance at Coachella, and defending the band amid the backlash against the political statement they made on stage during their performance. Also, the latest numbers from the Box Office (Sinners takes the top spot over... Star Wars: Episode 3???). 

Joe also talks about the film industry leaving Hollywood for more affordable pastures. And, in the latest edition of Celebs Behaving Badly, former NFL Champ and Podcast sensation Shannon Sharp is in a world of trouble after bein accused of sexual assault, and Diddy is still in jail. Also, the latest from the Billy "The King of Kong" Mitchell's defamation case, and getting lost at Disneyland.

oh, it's Bat Day at Disneyland today. Goths of the world... ASSEMBLE!!!!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Joe Escalante live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank.
It is two hours of a business, end of show business.
Whether it's movies or TV, or books or sports, we
do it all here. I'm joined by my engineer and

(00:30):
producer Sam. Sam. How are you doing.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm okay. I'm hanging in there. Had a decent week.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Good. We'll get into whether you saw any movies or
not a little bit later. What We got a lot
of things going on today. Minecraft continues to make news
and money and Kneecap your host's favorite band at Coachella
is in a lot of trouble, Sam, I've heard. We'll
explore the concerning decline in film and TV production in

(00:58):
Southern California and Snoop Dogg's new deal at NBC Universal Universal,
And in our Celebs Behaving badly segment Shocking development Sam
in the Shannon Sharp lawsuit, including a disturbing audio recording
that we might even be able to listen to tonight
and leak to our listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I'm disturbed.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Plus, we have updates on the missing person at Disneyland
was reported missing.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Someone was missing at Disneyland. They were missing and intentionally.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
It started as a family squabble and turned into a
big missing person's case.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Wait, so somebody it became a giant game of hide
and seek. Then that's what I'm guessing's.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Exactly what happens to.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
And we'll have a frank discussion about who should be
the next pope, because I think we might have some
influence before those guys get locked into the conclave. We
might be able to persuade one or two of them.
Now poison the uh, we're poisoning the voting pool and
the conclave. That's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
And everybody knows all of the cardinals huge fans of life.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
From Hollywood, a lot of them, a lot of them.
They're English is a second or third language. They don't
get as much out of it as the popes from
the English speaking languages. But we know the listen. Plus
we'll have updates on nothing else. That's it. That's what
a terrible showy. You know what though right now we're

(02:18):
getting to it. By the end, you might want to
change a channel. But for now, let's dive into the
festival season is officially begun. Music festival season begins with
Coachella two weeks of Coachella and one weekend of Stagecoach,
and this year national news was made on the front

(02:42):
of a band that you heard on this show. I
don't know anyone else that has interviewed this band in
the whole country, but we got an interview with them.
And they are called knee Cap and they are from
Northern Ireland and they are a hyper political band in
a sense. But I didn't really notice it because I
thought everybody in Northern Ireland hates the British and it's

(03:04):
not even I mean, if you don't know anything about
Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland is ruled by Great Britain and
regular in Ireland is ruled by Regular Irish. So they
don't like the Queen. They don't like Prince William, Prince Harry.
Actually they probably like the Queen the way she is now,
but they don't like the King. And of course that's

(03:27):
been going on for a long time. So there's a
rap band that surfaced last couple of years called Kneecap,
and I found out about them because they made a
movie where they started in their own movie. You might
think that's a terrible idea, but they were great actors.
And they got training, like six months worth of intents

(03:51):
of intensive acting training. Sam I was in a TV
show once where I was the star of a sitcom
called Fear of a Punk Planet and I had an
intense three week acting course.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
How intense was this acting course?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
It was just go to the lady about three times
and she's like, who just kind of worked. I already
had a script and I had to say these lines.
It was like, we're just working with this particular script.
She didn't make me like, you know, do weird exercises
like sit in a circle with people and go like
this is something, this is nothing, this is something, this
is nothing, something, nothing, something nothing. We didn't play games

(04:29):
like that. We just got right to the script.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
It sounds intense.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
It was intense. You can find episodes of this on
the internet on YouTube. Some of them are on their
Fear of a Punk Planet. Check it out. See. Let
me know if I'm a good actor, but I'm certainly
not as good as these guys in Kneecap. So they
made a really good movie. It was an Oscar contention,
but then it didn't get a nomination, and I think
I know why. Now these guys are hyper political against

(04:53):
you know, they want freedom for the people in Northern
Ireland against the British, and that's been you know, that's
something called the Troubles, been fighting for a long time.
But then, as I think, they branched out into other
political causes and performed at Coachella where I saw them.
I talked to Jev DJ Proval, the guy that wears

(05:14):
the mask. He wears like an Irish beanie mask thing
and that's his stick. And then there's two other guys.
There are a lot like the Beastie Boys. If you
like the Beastie Boys at all, you will like these guys.
But they rap in Gaelic Sam, the traditional language of
the Irish. And so what the one thing they've done
is they have caused a trend in Ireland for young

(05:35):
kids to learn their native language. And people have been
trying for you know, one hundred years to get kids
to learn their native language in Ireland. These guys did
it by becoming a great rap band. I mean genius, right,
that's how you do it. Then they played in Coachella
and they started getting real political and they started putting

(06:01):
stuff up on the screen like you know, uh, basically
it's the they're on the side of against Israel and
the Israel Palestinian the Gaza thing they were they put
up on the on the screen something like when I
saw them, they it just said the genocide against the

(06:25):
Palestine people is terrible or whatever. Fight support, blah blah blah.
I mean, let me ask you, that's that's pretty It
seem like mainstream politics to you right now.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's pretty mainstream at this point. Yeah, a lot of
people are really attuned to what's happening, and people are
picking sides. But I mean Irish tend to. I've seen
soccer games out of Ireland where the crowd themselves are
chanting chants in allegiance with the Palestinian people.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, it's interesting because they're because of the way that
they've been treated by the British.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
They understand occupation.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yes, right, so that's where they're where they come down.
And I'm telling you, I don't I don't really have
a side in this dogfight. I don't have a dog
in this hunt. They say. I look at it, and
I listen to one podcast and I go, yeah, that
sounds right. And then I listen to a podcast or
that they say the opposite and I go, ah, that
sounds right. I'm not even smart enough to know, you know,

(07:17):
uh where to come down on this one. I'm just
not so I don't. But I certainly wouldn't stand on
stage and say, uh, free Palestine, f Israel.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Now, even Coachella, like the live stream censored that part out,
but it's still appeared on other people's streams throughout social media.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
So yeah, I probably got it on my phone. Yeah,
but I didn't put it. I wouldn't. I wouldn't put that.
I put some pictures of me on it on there,
and like someone like Greg Gutfeld that Fox News I showed.
I go, hey, this man was really good. But I
think there's a controversy. This is before we can too. Yeah,
then after we can too. He goes, you don't post that,
and I'm like, way too late, I'm already there, so
but I just don't. I don't agree. Well, my this's

(07:59):
my question to you, Sam and the listeners. Even has
there ever been a band where you you disagreed with
your politics but you liked them anyway?

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah? Yeah, Metallica. Typically there's a couple of bands out
there that I still have a deep amount of appreciation
for but I don't have to agree with their politics.
I mean, the way I've always looked at it is
like you can have an opinion, but you don't need
to adopt other people's problems. Yes, right, and this is one.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
What they did. They they bid off quite a chunk,
but now they're in a corner.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
But they also understand that this is something like a
problem that they have in common with the Palestinian people.
So it's hard for them to not speak up about it,
especially when they're on that big of a stage in
a country that has that much influence.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Right, Yeah, and they were influencing people. There were people
in the audience with Irish flags and you know they're
fighting the British, and then there are Palestinian flags in
the audience, and you know it's I mean, it's just
I think people can have sincere, sincerely had beliefs on
both sides, and it's just where you are, We are

(09:08):
from your frame of reference, and these guys, their frame
of reference is occupation. So they cannot look you know,
they can't as a political ban, they can't stand by
while an occupation is taking place. So f Israel, though,
the reason why I wouldn't say that no matter how

(09:29):
into it I was, is because that has anti Semitic,
Nazi connotations because Israel is made up of Jews, it's
a Jewish state. So but in what they're in their defense,
they're saying, and they're getting a lot of trouble now,
a lot of blowback. We'll get more into that after traffic.
But they are in their defense they're saying, hey, look,

(09:50):
we don't care what people religion people are. We don't
care if if Israel is Jewish or whatever they're doing.
We don't like their policies and what they're doing in
the aftermath of the attack by the Uh what do
they call these people? The Hamas? Okay, And you can
argue over, well they did that because of this. Whatever

(10:14):
they're saying, I hate, they hate Israel as a as
a country. They don't hate their religion at all. And
these are Catholics. I interviewed them, the Roman Catholics. Decent people.
But you just don't go around saying ef it is
reel without unless you really want to drop a bomb.
And they dropped the bomb, and uh sure, yeah, and

(10:35):
when we come back, I'll tell you what happened to
them and what the reaction is on this and it
was on Fox News Channel. I mean it was like,
I'm watching I just look at the TV and my
favorite band is like on Fox News Channel. I go, h,
we're in trouble. I don't know. I don't know what happened,
you know, I just just don't listen to the A
lot of time, I don't listen to the politics because

(10:56):
usually they're just too left for me. Like Crass. Crass
is an anarchist band and love Crafts. I love how
they they they fashion their anarchist lyrics. I vehemently disagree
with their with their politics and almost everything they say,
but they do it so well. I can't stop listening
to it. And and I don't know. I hope that

(11:16):
people can kind of do the same thing forneecap. But
so we'll find out what happened to them when we
come back to Joe Scolante Live from Hollywood. Joe Scolante
Live from Hollywood, and we got a live We had
a lot of movie stuff. There's there's big movie news
like more and more coming up. But every week there's
like things are rapidly changing I feel in the movie world.

(11:40):
But first I want to get back Toneecap, who is
kind of being canceled because of their performance at Coachella,
and Coachella said, hey, they blindsided us. We didn't know
and you know, and then they So what happened to
him is after they've said they're basically I think it
was f Israel was where it pushed the push, pushed

(12:00):
the limits. They had to complain about the first weekend
saying they were censored because they went on an anti
Margaret Thatcher range grant and anti because they did this
big like, oh we hate Margaret Thatcher and they've got
all these images behind them, they got a song against her,
blah blah blah blah blah. So they were trying to
claim that they were censored because they were, you know,

(12:23):
they took this brave stand against Margaret Thatcher. And I
got to tell you that's just not true. I talked
this over with someone on the inside too, and he's like,
if they think any of our freaking Generation Z technical
people know who Margaret Thatcher is, they're out of their minds,
just don't even know.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, when you mentioned Margaret Thatcher, I can laughed. I chuckled,
because nobody out here cares about Margaret Thatcher. They they
have a very strong identity of feelings of whatever feelings
they have with Margaret Thatcher because they were directly impacted
by the monarchy. Yeah, I get it. But out here, yeah,
You're people are gonna be like, yeah, Margaret Thatcher, we're

(13:03):
still partying here at Coachella exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
So some of the articles you'll read about kneecap getting
you know, canceled, et cetera, are are just uh, just
you know, fake news because there there's you know, there's
a lot of misinformation. The misinformation I's noticed right away
is that that somebody in Coachella cares about Margaret Margaret Thatcher.

(13:28):
They don't. But as you said, some of the images
that they maybe someone said, hey, f Israel, they would
like if they had a switching station, which they do,
they might have said, you know what, we don't need
to someone in there in the radio go like, you
know what, let's not show the screen right now with
the f Israel on there, and and that's prudent, and

(13:48):
that would be a guy that's his job to just
you know, let's tone it down. I think you could
say free Palestine all you want, but when you say
f Israel, and I don't think it's because Israel is
controlling you know, the universe. I think it's just because
it's just you know, a the one's violent. One is

(14:13):
is like you know, passive free Israel, like we would
like to be free. The other one is f or
free Palestine. Yeah, we want to be free f Israel.
Totally different. Yeah, but should they be Okay, maybe a
wag of the finger for your f Israel, and but

(14:35):
should should they be ruined? Like Sharon Osborne accus Deecap
of a hate speech and called for the revocation of
their US work visas, so she's getten right to federal
law bring down the federal government on them. Osborne argued
that music festivals should unite people, not promote hate or
terrorist organizations. Okay, I I heard him say support Palestine.

(15:04):
I didn't really hear them say they like the Hamas organization.
Should you know, send your checks in and your donations in.
They might feel that way, but it wasn't an over
writing message. They were trying to get out and they
got everybody to do a free Palestine chant. But again

(15:24):
they're drawing parallels between Irish persecution and the situation in Palestine.
Osborne criticized Coachella organizers for allowing them to perform again,
so she would like them to basically, I use this
argument as she would. She believes that because of their
art and their politics different from hers, she would like

(15:45):
them to starve to death, like not work, basically, deprive
them of their right to work, and there up there
their right to get their message out. That's what where
Sharon Osborne comes down on this, and I don't agree
with that. I think you don't either, And I just
independent from their political message again, which I don't believe.
I don't believe in their political message. There's great musicians

(16:08):
and they're caught up in their occupation. Go see the movie.
You don't have to go now, Sam. The movie Kneecap
is on Netflix right now for free excellent. If you
called Netflix free, Yeah, it's on right now. You can
just push a button and you're watching Kneecap tonight. And
I'm telling you, audience America and all the ships at
sea that listen to this show, put on your Netflix

(16:29):
tonight and watch Kneecap. You're not going to find a
better movie, I'm telling you. And I've seen some movies.
So they lost their agent in the US, and Sharon
Osbourne is is that much closer to getting her wish
that they starve to death in their and their family
starve because of their their views. And you know how

(16:53):
to you know, Ozzy Osbourne is the one who they
said he was a Satanist for biting a head off
a bat or something like that, and it was all
media frenzy. But how quickly they forget that the media,
you know, causes a frenzy And there's truly a frenzy
over this when it gets all the way to Fox
News and you know what, it's just Coachella is a

(17:15):
great festival. And then you know what, maybe this is
good for them and Coachella in the long run. I
don't know, how do you come down on that. Do
you think this is good for them? Or is it
going to ruin them and they go home and break up.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
If the President doesn't decide to completely ban them and
boycott them from the entering the country ever again, then
I can see I see this as being a plus
for them because they are getting the attention of people
who typically would not be attuned to what their messaging is,
what their music is, who they are and now all

(17:46):
of a sudden, people know who they are, and there
are people overnight, Yeah, overnight, and there's a whole bunch
of people who are like I didn't know that they
are making songs and putting out messages that I already
agree with. Yeah, so now they're already being attracted to them.
The people who are disagreeing with them want to hear
what they're talking about.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, what what's this all about?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Here?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I gotta check it out.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
So a lot of times you have people out there
who are.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Gonna neecap necap necap.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna judge them without listening. But
the thing is, I love what you're doing. You're telling
them go see the movie.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, it's on Netflix, and you'll understand so much about them.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, you'll get it, and you'll understand where their perspective is.
You don't have to agree with them, you don't have
to adopt their perspective.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
And before this, even before any of this even went down,
you can look on my list of top ten movies
for twenty twenty four, number two was kneecapp. It was
my number two movie of the whole year, and for
sure the movie that I'd most like to see multiple times,
so check it out on Netflix. It's just called Meecap,

(18:51):
named after the band. Yep, Let's take a break, come Back.
Joe Sclante Live from Hollywood, Joe Us Goolan Teke Live
from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank. We are
here every Sunday from five to seven on Los Angeles

(19:11):
radio station k e I B. And then later Sam
turns it into a podcast, which is so an MP
three that you know you can download.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I save it, I edit it, and then I throw
it up there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
It takes all the f Israel's out of the show.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, and I add a few more in later.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, well that's what we're we're But we were just
talking about Kneecap getting canceled for saying f Israel at Coachella.
But I know I've said enough about this, But let
me ask you another question. Because I talked to an
agent because they lost their agent in the US and
that's not fun. You know, you're like Pariah canceled. I

(19:56):
talked to my agent who new were their agent. I
asked him to go ask him if they've if they
have any bands in their roster that yell F the USA,
either in their music or on stage, and I guarantee
they do, and if they didn't, I guarantee if that
band did that at Coachella from the main stage for
an hour, everyone would say how brave, how brave? Yes,

(20:23):
this country what it does to oppress the world, It's
an occupying nation, imperialist. I spit on the ground when
I hear the word USA. It's not even a word,
and I still split on the ground. I think that's
just part of rock and roll F the USA, even
British rock and roll, like Who's it exploited? I think

(20:44):
they might even have a song called F the Usa,
Sam and it's all over So do I like it?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:54):
You know what you tell me, you're gonna say F
the USA. I might go, I don't know if I
want you to play tonight, yeah, but I'm just it's punk.
Crop just go do your F the USA. I'm not
going to do it. And I think the audience of
the Vandals knows that we don't do F the USA.
It's not our shtick, and we now may not even
be as good as the F the USA band, but
we have the people that appreciate and we don't. We

(21:15):
don't do that. And one of the reasons why I
do that is because it's low hanging fruit to to
to being a rock band and criticize the US government.
It's just yawn. You know, yawn. I've heard it, and
I'm not But to your young kid, they don't know
what's come before them to much showneecaps a half Israel,

(21:37):
they're occupying this and then, and I think nobody really
knows what's right or wrong in that region. But all
I do know is people should have the right to
have deeply held beliefs, and you know, as long as
they're not well, they just should. People should just try
to respect that. See. Okay, you could say, well, I

(22:01):
don't like them because I don't like kneecaps saying that
because there were violence. You know, they're promoting violence, blah
blah blah. Yeah, but an individual and an artist has
a right to have these deeply felt beliefs that they
are occupied and there is a genocide. I don't agree
with that, I really don't. I haven't seen enough. I

(22:22):
haven't seen enough to make me go like wow, where
some other podcasts couldn't convince me of the opposite. Because
everybody's got their arguments and my brain isn't big enough
to I don't have an AI Google Gemini inside my
brain to really come up with an answer. I have
to look at and go, wow, that sounds terrible, and
then the other side tells me this is well, the

(22:44):
other side is worse, and I go, you know what,
At the very least, I'm gonna tell everybody on both sides, yeah,
I respect your your views, and especially if you're going
out on a limb and you're gonna risk your career
for your political beliefs and you don't care. Now, if
they do care and they came groveling back, then I

(23:05):
might even have less respect for them. But if they
go on their way and they say, hey, this is
our message and we're gonna to the hill, we're gonna
die on, I have respect for that.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
There's I mean, there's a history of Irish performers taking
political stances. We had Shenad O'Connor like four decades ago
getting banned from basically existence after ripping up the picture
of the Pope, and that was very political. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well because on that day she was banned from heaven
as well. Yeah, I felt I didn't have to do anything. No,
I go, you know what, live your miserable life, which.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
She smote herself.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
She smote herself.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
But that's the thing that you can't. You cannot disassociate
politicism with art and music when you look at Irish performers.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Very dangerous to do so, uh, I think you're looking
at YouTube bands like YouTube. That's to me like a
soft pedaling of politics. Oh yeah, first in a pop
culture commercial way, but if every I think two of
my favorite bands in the world are Kneecap and the
Stiff Little Fingers, also a band from Ireland, and they

(24:18):
say a lot of stuff I don't agree with and
but man are they good and they still play too.
I think a Kneecap and Stiff Little Fingers would be
a great tour. I would work with Kneecap, even though
I know that there's a lot of people that would
want to ban me or my organization or the people
that I would work with them because I have a
saft spot even though I don't disagree with their politics.
I have a soft spot for people who are persecuted.

(24:40):
When they get persecuted, I have this thing inside me
that goes reach out to them, reach out to them
and see if they need help because everybody is against
them and that's just you know, it's not smart of me,
but I get I just get that way. Let's go
to the movies. Number one movie to see tonight is
Kneecap on the I'm telling I'm saying it over and

(25:02):
over because it's free, it's there, and it's what's going
on right now. It's a topic of conversation at Coachella. Yeah, okay,
so it couldn't get more hip. You better see this
movie or you're some kind of a dope. Okay, there
I said it. No, let's go to the top nine movies.
Why the top nine because someone I was doing the

(25:23):
cutting pasting we got tonight. Number one is Sinners. Okay,
this is what you would call a urban thriller. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I've been hearing incredibly good things. A lot of people
in to tell me I need to go see this one.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
People like it. People that like good movies like it.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Sam.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Number two Star Wars Episode three, Revenge of the Sith.
What the heck is that? Sam? Maybe you can explain
that to me. Why I went to the movies last
night and it looked like a Star Wars convention in
that place at the Belletara.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
I'm guessing it's some kind of anniversary screening of it.
They're really these and I mean, I get it. It
was of the orid like those first three, you know,
episode one, two, and three. This was probably the most tolerable.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, you're right, this is the one. I remember this
being the one.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
But yeah, no, no, I get the feeling that people
are that starved for Star Wars content that they'll just
just give us whatever it is that that you guys
showed us twenty years ago, and we'll take it at
this point.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Well, also, they're always looking for somewhere to go and
and be seen, and they don't want to miss out
on another thing.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I will give them this. They I mean, like Rogue
one may be the best movie of the entire Star
Wars series. They took a movie where you knew what
the ending was going to be and made it so
you cared.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Everybody just changed the channel because you got too nerdy. Yeah,
so let's dial it back a little bit and and
just just say these are nerds and they're getting together.
And there were enough of them to get eleven three
hundred thousand in the theaters. Number three, The Accountant two
that seems to be the hottest movie right now, The

(27:04):
Accountant Too. Look for The Accountant Too to rise this
week and Sinners to fall? Number four and The Accountant
Too is a is it Beneffleck?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
On the prowl. Anyways, I almost saw that last night
because I had to make a decision. What am I
going to see that. My wife is such a saint
that she just sees whatever I say to see. You know,
I kind of like I eat whatever she tells me
to eat, or wear what she tells me to wear.
She sees what movies I tell her to see. So
we didn't see Accountant two because we saw a movie
I think is better. But I'll get to it. Number four.

(27:37):
Minecraft movie still making news Sam because people are bringing
fireworks into the theaters and.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Chickens, Yeah, live chickens.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
So if the guy says chicken.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Was it chicken jockey?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Chicken jockey.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
As soon as they say chicken chocky, it's like going
to a Gallagher show. You need to wear a poncho
and just cover up because you don't know what fluid
maybe flying out of where.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
When I was there, they were just standing up and shouting,
and then I went to the bathroom and they threw
a bunch of popcorn over my wife's head when when
they said chicken jockey, and my wife was scared. And
I'm glad I wasn't there, because maybe I would have
been startled to say what all right, you guys, and
I'd be the old man telling them all to settle down.

(28:20):
Don't want to be that right now. Went to the
movies last night. My wife ordered a chicken sandwich.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Chicken jockey sounds like an insult. It sounds like you
said you would say that to somebody.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
People are bringing in live chickens to the theaters.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I know, with wearing saddles.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
This chickens saddle or they wear something the chicken. Okay, well,
and then that's cool. And I told them, you know, like,
they go ahead, it's gonna take ten minutes for that
chicken sandwich would be done. I go, is this because
you think we're gonna throw it? And they say, chicken jockey, No, sir,
you're sixty two years old. I don't think you're gonna
throw anything.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Number five until dawn, let's put a pin in that
one for another week. Number six King of Kings. I
think it's an animated Jesus movie. Good for them on
this divine mercy Sunday. I think it's a good idea
to go see a religious movie, King of Kings. The

(29:18):
number seven is Amateur, The Amateur with Remy Mallick. I
think that one not as good as The Accountant. I'm
just getting a perception of my next movie to go see.
I think I'd rather see the Accountant too than the Amateur.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
But I heard that Amateur was like a spongey, like
not necessarily entertaining to look at version of James Bond.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Okay, yeah, yeah, maybe not as glamorous.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, somebody like a nerd Bond, a geek Bond.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Okay, good good, good morning. Number eight Warfare, which is
a in Iraq war movie. Number nine is the Legend
of Ochi, which is you know exactly what it sounds like.
It's about this legend of this thing called Ochi. Yeah, yeah,
from age twenty four. It's a legendary warfare. Okay, that's

(30:13):
a movie I saw.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Let's take a break, Okay, a.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Break, and I'm gonna tell you what I thought about Warfare.
It's so disturbing in a good way that I don't
I don't know if I can get through the segment.
I might need a moment. So let's take a moment
now to get ready for it. Joe Scolonte Live from
Hollywood with the traffic. Okay, Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood

(30:38):
all the time. The pizza well's speaking of pizza. That's
reminds you we've got to talk about the popes. We're
going to get to the popes.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, pizza boy.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Have you heard a pizza boy?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Uh No, he's a cardinal.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
He's a he's one of the eligible cardinals. And his
nickname is pizza boy. Really, so we'll talk about him
a bit. The movie. So the movie I saw last
night that is out in the theaters right now, and
it's like, you know, number it is the number number
eight and playing only at small theaters. But when I

(31:11):
went there, it's from A twenty four. A twenty four
is the hottest studio in the world right now. And
I just put something on my Facebook page for this
radio show, Live from Hollywood, Josclante Life from Hollywood, that
ranks the top thirty five A twenty four movies. It's
a good list to say like to go, Well, you don't,

(31:31):
you don't know what to watch tonight? Go to the
go to my Facebook page. There's thirty five movies. Guarantee
all of them are good. Yeah, and they're modern and
their hip and you know you look smart. Now. Warfare
it's a film about a battle in a rock in
two thousand and six, I think November of two thousand

(31:51):
and six. I got out ov rock in the in
January of two thousand and five. Sam. I don't like
to call myself a hero. I don't like the term.
But I was there for eight whole days, saw some stuff,
left some good men behind. All right, that's enough of

(32:13):
my stolen valor. It is true. I wasn't Iraq for
eight days in two thousand and five. It was it
was ugly the what were you doing, Joe singing and dancing? Okay,
I had a mission. I accomplished my mission. Now. This
is about a battle that took place in a neighborhood

(32:35):
where like eight guys or something. You know, they're trying
to secure some house so they can spy on some
enemy combatants that are pulling off from Shenanigans in this neighborhood,
hiding among civilians, and this is like, you know, one
of the things that always irks the Americans is like, like,

(32:58):
can you imagine an American army going in to you know,
let's say the battle is in uh, the United States,
and we go hide in a in a home like
Huntington Beach house in a neighborhood so that we so

(33:22):
that the enemy won't bomb us because there's all these
civilians around and then there's kids and babies and schools
and all that stuff. So that always erks the Americans.
They don't like that. So they they're they're I don't
know why they're rooting out these guys in this neighborhood,
but they go in to do it. And basically it's
kind of a real time experience based on their memories,
real soldiers' memories of what happened during this siege. It's

(33:45):
basically a siege. It's so intense, so well done, such
a you know, war as hell. Uh, the kind of
movie vivid and I don't think I don't think I've
seen one this graphic and.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's the Battle a movie about the Second Battle of Ramadi, is.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
What they're calling it.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, well that's what it was. It was the from
March of two thousand and six to November of two
thousand and six. It was a pretty gruesome, bloody thing.
So it seems like this movie is definitely one of
those films that brings out a lot of the vivid
imagery and violent imagery of it all.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah. I was mostly in Baghdad and then a foreign
operating bases on every every a different one every day
when the vandals went there to play for the troops.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Weren't you staying at one of Saddam's palaces?

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, you know what, there's almost nothing that's not a
Saddam's palace. You know.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Well, no, that's what I'm saying. I said, one of them,
one of those.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, so we're we're staying at them, We're hanging at them,
we're spending the night. Udi and Cusier have all these
you know, these facilities. Here's where Udi and kuse Uh
trained olympians for the Olympics. Here's where Udi and Kusi
just basically just raped win h Here's where Udi and
Kusse mostly raped men but occasionally a woman. You know,

(35:06):
you hear stories like that every day. But Yeah, to
see this, this film and to see what these guys
are really doing. When we saw them, they were they
were ready for recreation, and that's what we were over
there for. We were over there because these guys were
a lot of them were becoming suicidal. They missed home,
they're confused about their operation and their mission, and there's

(35:29):
a lot of violence and you know, just the general, uh,
the dramatic stress of war. So this is a very
vivid a depiction of it. And you can't relax. You're
not gonna enjoy your popcorn.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
So it's not a documentary, it's a reenactment, right, yeah, wow, Okay,
that's uh.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
It's really good. Yeah, really well done. And it's scarier.
You're praying for them in the theater. You get caught
up in it, you go, these guys are real. Yeah,
it's so well done and the and the acting is
so well well done. So I do recommend it. But
just remember, you're not gonna enjoy your popcorn. You won't
even remember you ate it. You're just gonna be like,
holy cow, what happened? And you want to like, can
I find one of these guys and thank them for

(36:13):
their service? All that kind of stuff. So it was
it's just a great piece of filmmaking. I hope it
has a life. I hope it gets some awards, all
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
You know, Yeah, looks fascinating. I'm a big fan of
military history, contemporary military history, and that one looks like
it's gonna be something to catch.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Real time, real time battle. Now we're gonna we're taking
a break. We're gonna go for Hour number two and
we'll talk about bats Day and a bunch of other
stuff like Billy Mitchell. Batstays today. You can still go
to Disneyland if you don't know what that is. Stick around, Joe,
It's go on to Live from.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Hollywood, Joe, Let's go on say live from Hollywood on
this in Bat's Day, and also Divine Mercy Sunday.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's kind of the sacred in the profane being celebrated
today in southern California across the world. We've got a
new pope coming out. I don't know if you have
any favorites. Sam and Junior. Sam is here with me.
We're gonna do two. I forget this is an intro
for like the hour. I better tell everybody what we're doing.

(37:30):
This is this Hour number two of the Business. End
of show Business. Right here in k e IB eleven
fifteen your AM dial in Los Angeles. You can and
live anywhere in the world with iHeart Radio app Woo.
You got a favorite in the Pope Run.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I haven't seen the Vegas odds on it yet, so
I really don't know who to go for.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Oh, there will be odds.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I mean, I know you're much more plugged into the
game than I am, so I've got a Before giving
you my idea of a favorite, I kind of need
to get your opinion on it first. Well, and it
reminds me of my One of my favorite lines of
any movie is from Top Secret in women's Tennis. I

(38:16):
always bet against the heathorosexual.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Wow, Well, and here who would you bet against? I
think you? I think you betted against the conservative. In
the Catholic Church, there are conservatives and liberals, just like
just like the world. And there's the conservatives that want
to It's a little more cut and dry though, because
the conservative what does he want to do. He wants
to conserve the rules of the religion sometimes called the

(38:46):
magisterium of the faith. The liberal wants to go you
know what. Jesus was a cool guy that were sandals
and had long hair. He wouldn't want to be so strict, now,
would he. I think anything goes. So between those two extremes,
you have all of them in the Catholic Church. So
we had like John Paul in recent memory, John Paul

(39:13):
the second, who was running around to traveling everywhere. It
was like the traveling Pope. He brought so many young
people into the faithful, and he was a very saintly figure,
an intellectual, you know, tons of like philosophical philosophy degrees
and all this stuff. Credited with ending the Cold War

(39:37):
by many people, along with Margaret Thatcher is now going
to mention twice on this show.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Which is I think we've hit our quote.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, and Ronald Reagan saw that people many people credit
those three with bringing down the Iron Curtain. And then
you had his enforcer. So he was a guy of
a lovey dovey guy, not conservative, not liberal. Then his enforcer,

(40:05):
who was in charge of the doctrine of the faith.
While John Paul was running around being Levey dove, the
rules were be enforced by a guy who ended up
becoming Benedict the sixteenth. And then he's eight years I
think he lasted that before he retired. A lot of
people say he was blackmailed because there's a lot of
intrigue in that. There's tons of intrigue, you know, there's

(40:27):
like there's there's like mafia controlled banking stuff. There's freemason infiltration. Uh,
you know, a lot of enemies from within Sam, a
lot of So we had him. He was he was
a very conservative, and he brought back easy Latin mass
before it was he had to apply for a permit

(40:49):
basically to say a Latin Mass in the church, even
though it was for you know, a couple of thousand years,
the normal thing to do. And then all of a
sudden and and when the when the additional people, the
conservatives got a taste of the Latin Mass, they became
addicted to it and they loved it. And then then
there now we have another divide. Is a Latin mass

(41:09):
is a mass that is not Latin valid? Well, of
course it is, well not of course to me, I
think it's valid, but some people don't think it is.
So you have that divide. Now what h But it
brought new people into the church. I mean, John Paul
the second was great, but I mean the pews were empty,
you know, they were getting more and more empty, except
for in Africa. So I don't know. He was great,

(41:32):
but that wasn't a great It's not a great legacy
if you're counting the number of people in the pew,
especially in Europe. Okay, So I don't know, and I
think this isn't a really show. And I'm not an expert,
but man, I kind of am, so I'm gonna keep going.
So so it's easy to have a Latin Mass. And
then that people got a taste of it and they
loved it, like my family loves it. Seems like Saint

(41:57):
Francis saw something he didn't like in that, like the divisions,
like these people are too conservative and they're obsessed, and
he didn't like conservative Catholicism. He wanted more anything goes.
And again, my brain is too small to know which
is right. If this is the pope and he was
chosen by the Holy Spirit, I'm going to sit around

(42:19):
and saying say that he's the wrong guy. I can't.
I'm not smart enough and I'm not holy enough. So
a lot of people loved him, a lot of people
did not love him. He takes away the Latin mass. Am,
the people are having it and they're and they're enjoying it,
and it's bringing new people to the church. Young people, especially,
families are getting bigger and they go, we loved it

(42:39):
to have a million. When you go to the Latin Mass,
you see people with giant families. And when people with
young people get married and they're hanging out with people
with giant families, they have giant families. So it seemed
to be really good for the Catholic Church. He took
it away and then people said I don't like you
for that, and that hurt a lot of people, and
he was suspicious of the people. And then some of
the diocesi they said, you can only have a Latin

(43:01):
Mass if you have it in the cathedral. Can't have
it in these regular churches. Why going to keep an
eye on you. That's kind of insulting. Yeah, so not
only we lost it, we have to go downtown or
wherever the cathedral is. That's a burden. Women in minorities
hurt the hardest.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Sam Probably it sounds very gatekeepy of like, you know, oh,
this is the only true authentic Mass. And if you're
trying to, you know, preach and get people on board
with what you're trying to, you know, to get people
on board with then yeah, you don't. You don't want

(43:40):
to be exclusionary with that kind of thing. You don't
want to gate keep the stuff as if this is
the only place where you're allowed to be pure.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Well, these are these are rules that excluded people. I mean,
it's more complicated than that, because you have people that
are saying this is the true Mass, the Latin Mass,
and then you have the Pope saying you're getting a
little too into it, and I'm scared of you, and
so I want to reduce that. I want to take

(44:10):
it away from you. I want to deprive you of it.
I want to exclude it so you can if you
want to have it, you can have it at the cathedral,
or I can keep an eye on it, and one
of my bishops can keep an eye on it. And
at the same time, the FBI is investigating people who
like a Latin Mass and saying these could be domestic terrorists.
So they went through all that. The Pope could have
come out and kind of had their backs. The traditional

(44:35):
Catholics had their backs, but they felt abandoned by him.
But then other people loved him for a million reasons.
So we have this guy, So who's going to be
the next pope? We had conservative, we had lefty, and
now what do we have next? Well, you're likely to
have more lefty because the pope picked all the cardinals,

(44:56):
like eighty percent of the cardinals that will be voting
will be one here picked and he picked he I'm
not saying he picked lefty ones, but there were conservative
ones that he ignored and he just said, you're out.
You don't like him, but he's a poop. He gets
to do that. Is it right? Is it wrong? You know? Again,
not smart enough.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
I don't put that much sacredness around the language of
Latin because I took three years of it in school
and the only thing that really stuck out were the
curse words, so I can curse out some people in Latin.
I just feel like, I feel like this idea of
making something less sacred based off of the language, it

(45:36):
seems like it's you know, for how many people listening
are actually understanding what they're hearing when it's in Latin.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Well, it takes like no time to learn the Latin
mass like, it really doesn't. It takes no time. And
then you have a universal language for the whole world.
Everybody's doing the same mass. So it's a more some
people say it's more uniting. It's it takes no time,
no time at all, because you're saying, you go to

(46:05):
church in the in your own language, the vulgate they
call it, and you you've heard it. It's absorbed into
your skin, and all you're doing is hearing the exact
same thing said in Latin. And then you have a
little book that translates it both sides, on both sides
of the page, as the Latin over hearing the English
over there. If you care at all, you learn that

(46:25):
thing in like, you know, six months, you got it all.
So but at the in the end, though, I think
it became something people were that the Vatican thought people
were kind of fetishizing, and but instead of like trying
to preach in a way that's like, hey, let's minimize this,
and they just took it from them, and so that

(46:48):
that made a lot of people mad. But we have
a new pope, and so that will be one of
the number one things that that people will look for.
Is this a pope that will further ban Thelatin mass
or will he bring it back or make it at
least easier to have one. So look for that. So
you look for the cardinals that that are in favor

(47:11):
of Latin Mass. And there's some that if you read
their biographies, some say advocate of the Latin Mass, some
say an opponent of the Latin Mass. And you look
around and then give you an idea. If they're honoring
if they were picked by Francis and they're honoring his legacy,
they will keep the Latin Mass. Hard to do. But

(47:33):
if he gets a uh, there are many cardinals that
that could be eligible that are in favor of it.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
So uh.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Other things that they that they look for are things
like the role of the of the laity, like how
much stuff has to be done by the priests versus
just the people. Stuff like that. You know, divorce is
a big topic. Gaze, of course is a big topic.
So it's hard to say because you don't know. And

(48:09):
then what about diversity. The biggest growth in in the
in the Catholic Church right now is in Africa. And
when I say that, it doesn't mean I know anything
about the actual statistics, but that's the conventional wisdom is, Hey,
Africa's doing great and so and and I go to

(48:30):
Mass in Europe and it looks it's terrible, like the
places are empty. So African pope, a lot of people
believe it's time and they've they've done the work and
they're growing the church there, so there must be something
to it. So if the Holy Spirit wants to reward that,
we will have an African pope, and that would be

(48:51):
my preference if I was sitting there voting. There's a
couple of Africans that I would nominate. One of them
is Cardinals Sarah of Guinea. I don't know where that is,
but ah, that's my that's my number one pick right now.
There could be a whole bunch of great ones that
I just don't know about. When we come back, we'll

(49:12):
talk about we won't really, but Pierre Pizza Bala, the
Cardinal of of he's the Grand Prior of the Order
of the Holy Sepulcher and he's eligible. But they call
him Pizza boy, Pierre Batista Pizza Bola, and he's eligible.
So when we come back, I promise we'll get back

(49:33):
to show business. But this is a show. It's on TV,
and it's going to be on TV for the next
several weeks. So it's a big TV things are there.
I said it. Let's check the traffic. Joe Ascalante Live
from Hollywood. Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood
you mean Burbank. You know, typically the last weekend in

(49:56):
April is a depressed one for Moon movies. It's, you know,
before the Marvel Cinematic University Universe takes up all the
oxygen out of the start of the summer with all
their movies. But this year, like things are happening, movies

(50:18):
are on an uptick and and they're usually falling every year.
This year they're up at this time from this time
of last year. And it's not because of a giant,
you know movie. You know, Minecraft was big, but it's
not you know, Joggernaut level. It's just really big, and
it's bringing these young boys into the theater. Young boys
are setting fires in the theaters and they're saying, you

(50:40):
know what, the movie theater is fun. And so I
think that's good for everybody because these guys will it
gives it gives life to the movie business, which really
needed it. So despite the burned seats from the I
mean they're literally Roman candles going off in these theaters
and chickens and everything for the Minecraft movie. But I

(51:02):
think it's good. I think it's And I noticed in
the cinemak Belitaria that I go to, in the Belitaria
Mall in Huntington Beach, I noticed that that they they
increase the staff because you know, like over COVID they
would just decrease and decrease everything there. You know, they
didn't have staff. People are living off of COVID. Remember

(51:24):
all this people, no one wanted a job because they're
living off the COVID box or whatever, and they just
didn't want one, and they didn't want to go certainly
didn't want to go into an office. And they could
they could have three jobs if they worked from home.
Only do one of them. We'll do one third. Anyway,
these are fully staffed.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I noticed that at the Beltarira, the bathrooms are cleaner,
the you know, managers running around trying to you know,
help fix things. So but there's another problem, the Golden
age of Hollywood and californ that's not getting any better.
There's a report we just came out. It highlights a

(52:05):
significant decline and on location filming in Los Angeles reaching
the lowest point in thirty years, excluding the pandemic here.
Of course, shockingly, only about one fifth of the film
and TV content watched by North American audience has now
made in California, let alone. Hollywood downturn has attributed to
fierce competition from other locations, both domestic like Atlanta and

(52:26):
New York and international like Australia and Catalina.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Just made that up.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Offering more attractive, you know, financial incentives, and critics accused
California's politicians of complacency. While the former president appointed actors
Mel Gibson, Sylvester Stallone, and John Voight as special Ambassadors
to the help of the industry. This move has been
met with skepticism, of course, because people, yea, the people

(53:04):
I'm reading like my summary of an article from someone
who hates Donald Trump. So it's like, I get it,
you hate Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, never mind. My biggest the only thing I can
say about is like, if the President's going to appoint
these actors as special ambassadors to the industry, maybe pick
somebody who's been relevant within the last four decades.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Well, those people who don't have time, Yeah, exactly, people
don't have time.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Yeah, But I mean Mel Gibson was wonderful and he's
you know in the eighties, and Sylvester Stallone back in
the eighties. I mean John Voyd might have might be
the one who John Voyd still he still carries some
relevance as far as like you know, still gets jobs.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, absolutely. And but Mel Gibson is a guy who
number one, he's you know, he's an A list name,
and he's got time and probably cares. But what they're
really in that thing, they're really saying, go out and
tell and and and kick Gavin Newsom's butt and tell
him to do a B and C and he won't

(54:05):
and we'll be back to the same. So who cares.
But you know, if they have all the studios here,
they have everything it takes, but they never do it.
So they let other cities like Atlanta just come and
build all these studios and start from nothing. It's like
a young kid going to take over your career. Like

(54:25):
you're the quarterback and you're getting slower and fatter and
there's some hungry kid that's working his ass off and
taking steroids and he's going to murder you, and you
just sit around and let it happen.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Yeah, I know a lot of people work who worked
in the industry out here looking to move to Georgia
because cost of living is cheaper and basically all of
the Marvel films are are being produced out of there.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Now you can get a job there, you can. So
that's just something that that's what politicians asleep at the
wheel and it'll be up to you. California can't do
it because those are the ones that are gaining, like
Florida and Atlanta. These are red states that that can

(55:11):
streamline regulation and make favorable tax things that no other
states are willing to do. So that's the way it is.
But I mean, it's sitting there. They can do it
if they want, but they're not doing it. Oh see,
we've got to take a break, Sam, I want to

(55:31):
come back. We're going to do it. We got We're
going to go back to the bad celebrities, celebrities behaving badly.
And this time we got a like a TV star
and an NFL star, got some Sean Diddy news still
in jail. Trial just about to happen, and we'll tell
you what happened. Does missing Girl in Disney Man talk

(55:53):
a little bit more about bats Day? Did we talk
about it at all.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
I don't remember. No, we didn't bring it up, but
I'm curious to see your respective on Obviously, people still
have a little bit of time to go and enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Tonight, Batsay at Disneyland. If you haven't, if you have
an annual pass it all, get down there. Joe'scalante Life
from Hollywood. Joe Ascalante Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood, you
mean Burbank, Kayak bad celebrities, Sam h Do you know

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who this guy Shannon Sharp is?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yeah, I'm a big sports fan. If you know sports,
you know Shannon Sharp well.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Alleged audio of a highly explicit conversation between Sharp and
his accuser, identified as Jane Doe, a very popular name
among grape victims, has been released. In the audio, obtained
by The New York Post, a man purported to be
Sharp is heard making a chilling threat, allegedly saying do
we have it?

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah? I have it?

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Let's here.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Anything I say, You're just gonna like get mad at
He's gonna hang up on me.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
So I feel like I'm hang up on you?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
What what does that even mean? You don't think yamby,
do you want to be a dick? To me, now,
so if you said that one one more time, choke.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Finally, the beep guy came.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
I was a little worried.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
I don't want to be true. She doesn't want to
be choked, he says, she does.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I don't think you have a choice in the matter,
and she.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Has no choice. Wow, I mean, you know, if she
wants to be if he hasn't, he has a right
to have an opinion that she wants to be, uh choked.
Let's just give him that. But she doesn't have a
choice whether she's going to be choked. Come on, Shannon Sharp,
do you think that's ai? Shannon Sharp? Are real? Shannon Sharp?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Sam? I, I don't want to speculate. It's it's pretty
damning evidence against him. Really when you hear stuff like that.
I mean, you can bring up the idea and the
concept of consent, but really with that kind of talk
and stuff, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
It sounds like he's a thug that uses his power
to we.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Might be witnessing the slow swirl of his career down
the toilet.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
He's been suspended, I understand on ESPN. Yeah, okay, and
they suspended him probably because they looked into it and
said we don't know if you're guilty or not, but
it looks really bad.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Yeah, and he has i mean, one of the biggest
podcasts and like video YouTube channels out there for Club Shasha.
He's had some of the some of the most popular
interviews on YouTube within the last year. So this is
something that a lot of people are keeping their eyes
on because this is somebody that there's a lot of

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people who are like just knee jerk reaction, were very
defensive and protective of Shannon Sharp until they heard and
like that audio, but also like heard more of the details.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
So he's an NFL champion that is also a commentator
and a podcaster, and he is in a lot of trouble.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah, okay, quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
We'll stand top of that one. Now we have another one,
which is the p Diddy. P Diddy in court, his
legal teams outlining their defense strategy. I want to hear
it here. It is they're arguing that while he may
have engaged in a swing or lifestyle, he never committed

(59:39):
any inappropriate or criminal acts. His lawyer suggested this lifestyle
was common enough that did he may not have thought
twice about certain alleged behaviors prosecutors. However, they pushed back,
saying attempts to draw comparisons to other public figures don't
do it. The hearing also touched on I guess they

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were comparing him to you know, yeah, maybe. The hearing
also touched on allegations that did he may have compelled
one of the alleged victims to undergo a medical procedure,
which prosecutors claimed is directly linked to the sex trafficking charges. Hmm,
what do you think what medical procedure do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
You think that might be for a man or a woman?

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
For a woman? Do you see how these Yes, it's
an abortion, and the and the the newswires don't want
to say that, so they call it a medical procedure.
He was forced to have an abortion, Okay, so she was.
He was trying to force girls to have abortions. And
that's manipulative. I impregnant you, I offer you money to
have an abortion. That's just gross. The judge is ruled

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that the video appearing to show did he assaulting Cassie
Ventura will be admissible in the trial. That's a big deal. Yes,
that's the one everybody's seen. The near the elevators and
he's kicking her and beating her, dragging her.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Uh but as I said before, you gotta be careful
how much you let in because these can all be
grounds for a appeal. Yeah, you let too much in.
Blah blah blah. That's what they did to Cosby.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
I mean, really, it seems to like, just like Cosby's behavior,
everybody seems to already be throwing the book at Diddy
as far as his behavior being considered unlawfully awful. But
at the same time, yeah, he deserves to have due process.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
You know, and I you know these are these are
you know, as a hip hop guy and as an
athlete guy, African American both. Uh, you know, it doesn't
paint Africanerain American entertainers they're all They're not all like this,

(01:01:47):
of course, why can't people meet more like Snoop Dogg.
Snoop Dogg is expanding his presence in the entertainment world
with a new major deal at Universal. NBC Universal and
Studio UH Entertainment and Studios have announced a why arranging
creative partnership with the rapper and his production company death
Row Pictures. The agreement covers film, television, sports, entertainment and

(01:02:09):
streaming content. NBC executives express their excitement about partnering with Snoop,
highlighting his global appeal, business acumen, and authenticity in the
gangster rap world with a company called death Row Records.
Yet he is surprisingly squeaky clean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I wouldn't call him squeaky clean. He's had his legal
run ins throughout his.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Life, but he survives and he's like when he's on TV,
he just seems like a smooth character. You can sell
your beer, you can sell the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Him with Kevin Hart doing commentary on the Olympics might
have been the funniest thing I've ever seen. I really
put it up there as one of the funniest things
I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
And he's going to return as a voice on the Coach.
This guy is prime time, just mainstream. So whatever he
whoever his publicist IST's hire that person to rehabilitate your reputation,
Shannon Sharp's definitely gonna need it at this point. You

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don't need it, You're saying me personally.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
No, My reputation I've already accepted is in the ground
is dirt, right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Tell me about Billy Mitchell. This guy is the Donkey Kong,
King of Donkey Kong. I saw a movie called Love
and Arcades not out yet, so don't try to see
it probably, uh, And it's about one of the people
in the Donkey Kong. There was a movie was the
other movie called Donkey Kong, King of Kong, King of Kong. Yeah,
two people battling for the championship of Donkey Kong. And

(01:03:48):
it's kind of you know, it's all weird and funny,
and uh, it's the documentary is interesting. Billy Mitchell was
one of them. But he's the most hated man in
all of arcade sports.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Right absolutely, Uh, one of them. Another word that I've
been repeating today. Polarizing, very polarizing figure within video games,
especially competitive video games. He held so many records throughout
the eighties and was known for that and had a
reputation of being an elite gamer. And underneath all of it,

(01:04:19):
there was a lot of rumors of him doing a
lot of little things to cheat. And you know, I'm
not going to go and say one way or the other,
weather or not he was cheating, but that was the
reputation that he had earned.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
And to get a record and to publicize your record
basically you videotape some in videotapes, you playing the game
and you watch he look, he got the highest score. Yeah,
but they were saying he could doctor these machines and
then he would sue people for defaming him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Yeah, and that's where a lot of people were, you know,
suing him to find you know, based off of the
idea of him being a cheater, so they want to
find ways to expose him. Now, he was in a
lawsuit with this YouTuber in Australia named Carl j and
or Jokes. I'm not sure how it's pronounced, but what
Jokes was doing in a lot of his videos, and

(01:05:07):
I watch a lot of his videos because most of
his content, when it's not focused on Billy Miller or
Billy Mitchell and trying to defame him, it was focused
on video game records and focused on if people were
cheating on them or not. And Billy Mitchell has that reputation,
so he just focused right on him now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Then, and you don't want to get a girlfriend, so
you watch these videos.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Obviously, so within like everybody was talking about how you
know this. You know, Billy Mitchell's a very litigious guy,
and this one guy went and more or less to
fame them based on and was posing it as like
he's going to take him to court to expose him
as the cheater that he is. Yeah, And what ended
up happening was that he kind of misled his audience

(01:05:48):
into believing what the actual case was about. It was
a defamation case based off of Carl Jobs saying that
Billy Mitchell's Billy Mitchell's legal act actions led to the
suicide of another YouTuber named Apollo Legend.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
So that was what the suit was about. That's what
the suit was about, causing causing a debt as death.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
And during when the judge was at the end of
it all, was in there telling everybody what's going on,
he basically said, I am not judging whether or not
Billy Mitchell is a cheater. I am judging whether or
not he was defamed by Carl Jobs based off of
what was said, uh, and the allegation that what Billy
Mitchell did legally against Apolo Legend led to his suicide.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
So if you say something to somebody like in this case,
he's defending himself saying I Am not a cheater and
I'm going to sue you and then the guy who
said you're a cheater and says when the pushback comes,
he takes his own life. And that could be. That
could have been unless there was a suicide note, you know,
saying Billy Mitchell's at fault here you he that's a

(01:06:55):
tough case.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
There was and that's the thing. There was a suicide note,
oh no, and there were other YouTubers mentioned in it,
but Billy Mitchell was not mentioned in it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
And he wasn't but he has the money.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
And what Carled Jobs was doing was going on his
videos and saying that the legal issue, the case that
Apollo Legend had against which I believe was another defamation
case against Billy Mitchell, led to his suicide, said that
that was directly what led to Apollo Legend suicide. That's
what the case was about. It had nothing to do
with litigating whether or not he was a cheater. And

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what Jobs did was use the court's time to bring
up every single time he cheated so that it would
be in legal record that he's a cheater, a known cheater.
But that's not what this case was about.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Now, was that the defamation defamation based on court case,
court filings, or just he was saying it in public.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
He was saying it in public on his videos.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Okay, now we all know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
And not retracting them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Defamation saying something that makes people spit on the ground,
like he's a cheater, his whole life is a lie.
That qualifies it has to be not true. So that's
going to be established, maybe as by the Trier of fact.
And but he's a celebrity, so there has to be
a high the malice. It has to be done to
cause some kind of you know, premeditated evil, like take

(01:08:15):
him down or not, so that maybe jokes could be
more famous or something. I don't know. Is he in
the game too?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Is he he's known within the gaming community.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Yeah, so he's trying to take him down by spreading
lies that make people spit on the ground. That is
a defamation case, and the Trier of Fact can decide
whether it was true and whether it met the bar
of malice. Yeah, okay, we've seen it before. But you're
saying he won.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Yeah, he won three hundred and fifty thousand dollars in
damages from Jobs.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
But Jobs, oh okay, from Jobs who was an actual
living night.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, yeah, Carl Jobs said that what he said, led
to the suicide of another YouTuber.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
So he's in Australia. Yeah, so is it three hundred
and fifty thousand Australian dollars? I believe so, yes, So
they could I have that on mer Change. Okay, Joe's
Golante Live from Hollywood. One more segment coming up after this,

(01:09:22):
Joe Joe'sclante Live from Hollywood. Hollywood. You mean bird Bank
Steve Jones singing that song right there. He's with the
sex Pistols, the new version of the Sex Pistols that
is on tour right now. And I got my tickets
for their LA appearance at the holly Wood Palladium. I

(01:09:46):
don't know if the tickets are are still available, but
it's uh, it's inn October, October sixteenth, so I don't
know if they're still available. If I were you, i'd
got It's gonna be fun, you know. I think they're
still available. You can still get seventy nine dollars tickets.

(01:10:06):
Checking it out right now because I'm your friend Live
Nation website and well, I am also on a like
a kick of I've been for a couple of years
of people that might pass away soon, so I want
to see them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Yeah, if you have a chance to see them live
before they go, that'd be great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Yeah. And it's not it's not Johnny Rotten singing for
I've seen the sex Pistols many times, but this version
is different singer because Johnny Rotten just doesn't want to
do it. They don't get along with them. So they
got this guy and everybody likes them, and so I'm going, excellent,

(01:10:49):
it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be like old times
Palladium punk show in my mind. Oh. I went to
a lot of shows at the Palladium. One time I
saw the Clash there and it was my first show
to play them. I so other class. Second time I
had seen him the second time they'd come to the US,
and it was so crazy that there was a picture
of the crowd just going nuts and climbing all over themselves,

(01:11:12):
falling all over the about to crush the bass player,
Paul Simonon And it was on the cover of the
Herald Examiner Style selection, and there was me right there
on the picture. And so people are telling my sister, Hey,
your brother's on the cover of the style section, and
I'm just like in the like the pile of people.
And then then my mom found out where I was,

(01:11:33):
and she didn't really care. She's like, what are you doing?
You shaid go there with your father? You were not
old enough. I'm only sixteen, but said, this is what
you do when you leave. Oh my me, take your
car away. No she wasn't like that should have been,
but it wasn't. So h yeah, that's my call. Oh,
so we else somebody can see. I can see Don

(01:11:54):
mcqleean Palm Springs still performing. Yeah, and I haven't seen him.
And I've got tickets to Tom Jones at the Desert
Hair is somewhere in the middle of California, Southern California,
like a dose he nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Is it? The one closer to San Diego? Yeah? Yeah, nice, So.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Tom Jones. If you haven't seen Tom Jones, you gotta
see Tom Jones. It's got to be his last tour.
That's all I gotta say.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
It's gotta be My mom, My parents saw him live.
My mom loves him, of course she does. Of course.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
She threw her panties at the at the concerts.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
No, he threw them at her, threw him back.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Okay, she mailed them to him and then he threw them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
My mom has some weird concert stories, like you know,
like every once in a while, people like the performers
will take the micro and like pointed at someone in
the crowd who's really vibing and singing along. Yeah, they
did that with my mom once, I think, with the
with the Temptations, and my mom didn't actually know the
words to the song, so it just went silent.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
You gotta be careful with that stuff. You gotta be careful,
don't give the I have a story about Matchbox twenty
when we played with them that I'll tell another time.
Mind me, it's a winner. Okay, So what else we
got left is bats Day? Do you have any time?
Batstay is when the goths descend on Disneyland. All the
goths are going to Disneyland today and I was there
earlier today and it's just funny. They're goths everywhere, different

(01:13:15):
kinds of goths, dark goths, Like there's a goth, there's
a there's a there's steampunks. There's a certain brand of
goth that we're all white, white face, white white, like
you know, you can imagine a white wedding dress or
white suits, and their goths and there's a big giant goths.
We call them thunder.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Goths under goth. Yeah, that sounds awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Yeah, it's the whole thing's great. And it's the best
day of the year to go to Disneyland is on
Bats Day. And if you google it, you'll figure out
you know how to do it either this year or
next year. And the girl that got lost at Disneyland,
her name was Annie Kathleen and she was last seen
on Ball Road in Amaheim. Oh wow, after he's still

(01:13:54):
missing after leaving. Well don't I'm not going to give
away the end after leaving Disney California Adventure Park. Okay,
So however, I'm not just saying how many days it
was at least a day. Yeah, so it looks like
the next day she's found safe in Mexicali.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
How did she walk?

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Was sixteen years old, So you know when I was
sixteen year olds, I could get anyone I could get
to Mexicali. She was visiting Disney California Adventure Park with
her family on April twentieth. Oh so she was gone
for like four days after she had a disagreement with
her family over a bag of talkies. I'm just kidding.
This happened on Mexican I can make jokes like that.
She left the park, the Anaheim Police Department said, And

(01:14:41):
she was last seen walking by herself in the sidewalk
a ball road around four forty five. And she was
from Imperial County and from a town called Collie, Patria.
And she got found in Mexicali.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Four days later. I wonder if she got a ride
or if she wandered all the way down there. I
mean over four days, you can see that happening.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Don't take me like eight hours to get to Mexicani.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Maybe she really just needed to, you know, like after
an argument with loved ones, you sometimes need to go
out for a walk.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Yeah, you got, you gotta your you know who. We
don't know what the argument was about. It was about like, hey,
I want to leave to go to Mexicali. You know, yeah,
I hate this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
I don't want to be at Disneyland, I'd read, but
rather be walking to Mexico Likely.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Why couldn't we have got that fast pass thing? We're
really gonna try to do Disneyland without the fast pass.
I'm out of here, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
I'm glad they found her safe.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Yeah, we're gonna need to find her for an interview.
See what happened. I need a detail, you know, all
four days and I need him detailed, all right, Joe's
gon want to tell you live from Hollywood, leaving you
with just the taste of the greatest song ever written.
And we'll see you next Sunday.