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October 13, 2025 • 49 mins
Joe Escalante's weekly bragging about managing the Billboard #1 Alt band in the country (as he should!!!). This week: Joe's theories about why AM radio isn't in some cars (it's the libs)... Someone had a heart attack at Disneyland... or did they...? Operation: Parachute is in effect...

Also, the latest from the Box Office... If you ignore Taylor Swift... Roofman gets Joe's Offical Stamp of Approval. And Drake lost his lawsuit against his own record label for promoting the most epic diss in rap battle history from Kendrick Lamar. Needless to say, if you sue the guy that dissed you, and you lost the lawsuit, you also lost the rap battle.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And now it's time for Joe Escalante live from Hollywood.
In by Hollywood, you mean Burbie across the street promo
meaners Ntzel that serves beer.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Okay, so not in the big show. It's the Business
Affairs of Hollywood. And we're two hours every Sunday righting
here on k E I B eleven fifty and your
AM dial and check out the box office, and we'll
check out some stuff. We've got some Congressional Congressional AM
radio news, which is always sexy. There's a decision in

(00:49):
the Universal Drake case. Cuomo is suing and losing, and
that's Chris Croomo and CNN got some Paddington Bear flare
up that mirrors our take on the Paddington Bear episode
we did a few months ago. Someone is I think

(01:15):
maybe listening to our show and just carrying things that
we do here a little too far, I might add.
And some Disneyland something dark, you know, the How To Mansion.
They always say there's room for one more. I think
there's it might be full now, okay, so let's start

(01:38):
with the am radio news. Sam. Does this affects you?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Of course?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Did you am radio as your calling your vocation when
you were younger.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yes, I was. I was born man with a transistor
radio and I slowly worked my way up to getting
my way AM style and now here I am. You
can't this place can't lose me.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
What does the AM stand for? Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Something, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'll tell you. I'll reveal it to you in the
next break. But you know what this is. This is
a podcast version because we got we got preempted hot
bye by the NFL.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
That's right, National Football League, Sunday Night football.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Now and I didn't have a last week, but you know,
what are we going to do now? I'm more relaxed
because this is not going over broadcast here. I don't
care if there's any large gaps there. We just had one. Yeah, okay,
so AM radio, do you have any guests? No?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
It stands for amplitude modulation.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
MMMM, and I'm guessing the FUM would be frequency modulation
m hm.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Very good. You're a very good student. So amplitude refers
to the height or the strength of the radio wave.
Modulation is the how much it varies like and that's
how it's carrying. It's you know this is too This
is above my hand. But AM radio was first. First

(03:30):
there was just AM radio. There was no FM radio.
Am radio was the standard. It was in every car.
And then over time FM became some like kind of
rogue technology. And I remember it as a kid because
hippies were taking over and the hippies have their stations
on AM radio where they could play stations. It would

(03:52):
just play a whole album side of an album, and
they would not play singles. You didn't have single Singles
were not in the They were for bubblegum music on
AM radio or you know standards. Frank Sinatra would put
out singles. But then FM radio was there, and you know,
I don't have any official proof of all. This is

(04:15):
me growing up and seeing, you know, what's going on.
And FM radio was was very kind of hard rock
stations like KNAC and Long Beach out at FM station
and it was next door to where my father our house,
so the you know house I live with my dad
and Long Beach and it was they're broadcasting there. I

(04:39):
used to go there and bug them and like you
when I was five, so that's like nineteen sixty eight,
and you could bang on their door and they just
come out and get you because they had whole album
to play, and then they would deal with they would,
you know, put up with me for a few minutes
and then you know, I have to leave. But AM
radio was and then soon as we know now, AM

(05:02):
radio has been eclipsed by f M radio. And AM
radio is you know, talk shows and foreign language programming,
maybe some Christian stations and a lot going on other

(05:22):
than that. And FM radio is where all the hits are.
I might add to you, Sam, for five weeks in
a row, I my band that I manage, has the
number one song on the Billboard Alternative Charts. So this
is I just found out a few minutes ago. I
just found out that's the fifth week in row. Four weeks.

(05:45):
Four weeks was a record for this year. No one,
No one has gone four weeks since like last year
and then now this year. It's it's sitting records all
over the place. The song is called en Sonata. You
should go listen to it on iHeart Media. I guess
that's what I'm supposed to say, right, because you can
hear this show worldwide on iHeart on your iHeartRadio app.

(06:09):
That's right, Okay, Okay, So there's a there. Congress passed recently,
something called the or Not a Committee was a committee
my Capitol Hill. The House and Energy Commerce Committee advanced
the Am Radio for Every Vehicle Act on a fifty
to one vote, sending it to the full House. The

(06:29):
bill would direct the Transportation Department to require AM radio
access in all new cars, including electric vehicles, as part
of a compromise with automakers members. Broadcasters, including the National
Association of Broadcasters and the nrb praised the move as

(06:50):
a public safety win, while Consumer Technology Association warned the
mandate could slow innovation. A floor vote could be scheduled
next Okay, so this was something that we championed here
in the show for a while. Is they've been taking
AM radio out of cars, and you know, that might
seem like the modern thing to do, but when the

(07:13):
crap goes down, you're gonna need an AM radio somewhere,
and you're gonna look around you're not gonna have one,
and you're gonna need an AM radio for emergency instructions,
and you need free AM radio that just comes into
his son antenna, you know. And so it's in people's cars.
That's where they're gonna rely on. This, and to me

(07:33):
it the problem happened. I think as a response to
Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh was a conservative radio phenomenon, and
I believe that to get rid of him, they couldn't
get rid of him. His enemies couldn't get rid of him.
He was like Trump of the radio. They they tried
to sue, They tried to say he was racist, they

(07:54):
tried to say he was a philand or a drug out.
You know, they got all those things, whatever they could
get against him, because he was a powerful voice, and
so his political enemies. Like any political powerful voice, the
enemies will come and try to get up and they
tried to do it with Well, why don't we compete
against him? I mean, why should he get all the listeners?

(08:16):
He had twenty two million listeners per week at his peak, Sam,
did you know that?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
So how did so? The people that were his political
enemies were saying, how are we going to stop this guy?
And then some people said why should we stop this guy?
Why can't we just be as good as him? Or
Baker drown him out with more voices, not less, and
so they started Air America. Do you remember this?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh yeah, there America is When I first came to
K E I B. It was called Air America back
then and kt okay, yeah, K talk, so K talk.
When I first came to K talk, it was that's
that's what it was. It was like a lefty station
and they had Senator what's his name is alfrank Al Franken, Yeah,

(09:07):
Al Franklin was on, Susan Miller. Was that her name?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Stephanie Miller?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Stephanie Miller, and then Joe Scalante and Sunday Nights Johnny Wendall.
There's a lifting, you know, I just didn't show BI show.
But then that didn't work. So then they were trying
to destroy Rush Limbaugh by the best thing they could do.
They came up with, which was very effective, boycotting is

(09:34):
advertisers and creating. Rush used to say it was eleven
people with a fax machine and they're faxing all these
advertisers saying, if you advertise on this program, we are
going to boycott your products because this man is a monster.
And it really worked because the AM stations were trying

(09:57):
to sell ads and some of the program some of
the ad buyers would say, we can't I want to
advertise on your station, but just not during wrestling ball
and so I don't want to get boycotted. So then
how do you think that worked? Knowing what you know
about how traffic in a radio station.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Works, that it probably did not work out well.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Because you know, sooner or later someone's gonna plug in.
You know, if you're Gallpin che Gallpin Ford and you
want and you don't want to be in a wrestling
bough show, sooner or later some guy is going to
end up placing one of your ads there. You know,
even in an emergency like oh I got to add
a commercial in here because I spilled coffee on my

(10:43):
growing or something. And then you lose advertisers because they say, hey,
I told you I don't want to be on that show.
I'm on the show. Now I'm getting boycotted. Look at me,
I'm losing my business, losing a nickel. So they had
to push rust Limbaugh and some markets they just pushed
him to his own station. And so if they had
a station where and because he did good business, but

(11:07):
it could it was hard to keep him on on
a station that was that where that was going to happen.
So that I think that's the birth of KiB kind of.
So now that you know they're doing whatever they can,
then they came up with this other thing. What once again,
I don't have any facts. Oh this is all my opinions.

(11:28):
Once there America failed, they're going, okay, well we tried
to make our own wrestling baw and we couldn't and
the whole station went down in flames. I believe because
a conservative voice is a more uniting voice among their base.
They're like, okay, we're you know, god fearing Christians that

(11:51):
like traditional values and small government. Now that's pretty focused
and there there's not much else now when you get
into the so you can kind of unite all the listeners,
and one guy can like Rushlemba can be just just
bloviating all kinds of stuff that no one would ever

(12:13):
say in public, but it might be what people are thinking.
People are on radio, they listen to alone. It's a
very intimate medium. Most of the time. They're driving around
in the car by themselves. So they're like, go ahead
and tell it like it is. I can't say that
at work, but you're saying it, and then they you know,
and then it's easier to unite these people. But the

(12:35):
lefties have a problem because their message is then correct
me if I'm wrong, Sam. But it's like you have
to unite big government people and union people together with
a social agenda, which is, you know, very open minded leftists,

(13:03):
promiscuous abortions on demand, and artistic freedom. It's harder to
get you know what I'm saying, Sam.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Well, usually here's the thing I feel like, it's more
of the left tends to if they hear somebody saying
stuff they agree with, they tend to just move on.
They don't want to stick around and just have their
biases endlessly confirmed. They're just going to move on and
not listen to whatever else is coming up. That's why
Air America didn't succeed. It was in LA and you

(13:43):
had a huge market full of quote unquote liberals, and
they just didn't want to hear stuff that was confirming
whatever biases they have. They just didn't want to hear it.
Then you flip it over to Patriot Radio and now
you know what we have with KiB and you're noticing
that you have more of like a united message and

(14:06):
everything like that. But also the audience that it's catering
to is more or less the last loyal audience of
terrestrial radio.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, and they're not gonna hear it anywhere else. They're
not gonna hear it on the CBS Evening News or
the ABC Evening News, yeah, or CNN or and intel
Fox News came along, they wouldn't hear it. There was
nowhere to hear Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
So terrestrial radio especially, you know, well anywhere in the
United States is gonna be if you're gonna go with
AM talk stations, a conservative format is gonna be something
that holds more of the audience because that audience is
definitely It's the same reason why Fox News is consistently
pulling in higher ratings than most of the other TV

(14:52):
stations out there. It's because that audience is super loyal.
They like having their biases confirmed, and they aren't willing
to embrace the next step in technology like the Internet
or YouTube or stuff like that because they're old, most
of them, some of them some okay, so yeah, so
there you go.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
These are just kind of like it's kind of like,
why do Mexicans like Morrissy. It's like, I don't know,
we're just kind of throwing our ideas at it at it,
but at some point someone I believe, said, you know,
we got to do to get rid of these conservative

(15:32):
crack pots, gonna get these AM radios out of the cars. Okay,
that's probably driving around these cars. They're listening to this,
you know, misinformation.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Well, the thing that's going on, Like, I think the
car company that's leading that push was Tesla, and that's
definitely not a liberal company.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
No, but when it started it definitely was.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, for sure, absolutely, So.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I think this starts at Tesla. And again these are
just theories. I'm imagining a meeting at Tesla where they're saying,
like you know, they're trying to save space and they're
trying to streamline and be a car of the future,
and someone says, let's get we don't need AM radios

(16:19):
in these cars. That would be an innovation, right guys,
And everybody in the room said, I don't listen to
AM radio, do you? No way? I don't, no way.
I'm not a right wing crackpot. And there were no
right wing crackpots in the room or any right wing anything.
And so they said, yeah, and then we can get
rid of and then people support it gained support maybe

(16:41):
in other areas, other corporate Americas because everybody thought, yeah,
we can silence these voices that way. I don't have
any proof, but that's my theory. Now, so someone got
into this and they put and then they came up
with the thing, well like, if you don't put an
AM radio in these cars, you and your whole family
are going to die. That's very that's very compelling as well.

(17:06):
So that you and your family are going to die
if there's no AM radio in every car. Lobby is
winning and so they're moving and so that's my news.
They moved, they're moving through the Congress and they're going
to make all the car manufacturers put AM radios in
the car. And in the climate we were in today,
it's going to probably become a law. And it's kind

(17:29):
of funny because you know that the left is putting
so many regulations on cars, you know, forever and ever
and ever, and now the right wingers come back, how
about this regulation gotta have an AM radio? There a yeah,
unless you want your whole family to die. So it will,
and you know, I think it's good. Another thing with Tesla.

(17:50):
Tesla said, you could the interference in an electric car
cannot pick up the AM single signal. That's what they
were saying. It's there's too much interference with the electricity.
It won't pick it up. Now, I would say I
had a Vault car, which is a half electric like

(18:11):
a plug in yeah hybrid, and and the AM radio
was it wasn't good in that car, but it was there,
but it wasn't good. So there there's But you know,
if if if Elon Musk can put a man on Mars,
you know, I'm sure he could solve that problem. And
now he might want to now that he's you know

(18:32):
a little more of a of a right a writing,
he might So anyways, that's thank you everybody who supported
the AM radio for every Vehicle Act because it's moving.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Okay, now let's get to Disneyland. Something happened this week.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, I saw this kind of gruesome.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
At the at the Haunted Mansion, a guest died and
let's see my report on this cause of death will
not be revealed. That's the latest headline for the Disneyland
guest who died after writing the Haunted Mansion. On Thursday,

(19:19):
October ninth, Matt Sutter, the public information officer for Anaheim
Police Department, confirmed to people that the Orange County Sheriff's
Corner Office did not take custody the body following the
woman's death, Thus an optopsy will not be completed. It's
likely indicse the doctor signed off on a death certificate

(19:41):
and the family made their own arrangements to gain custody
the body. He shared in a statement that same guy
that the pawn arrival. They were called to the park
at six thirty pm, Okay twilight hour on Monday, October sixth, Monday,

(20:01):
and they found an unresponsive woman in her sixties who
had just finished writing the Haunted Mansion attraction, and Disneyland
security personnel provided CPR under paramedics until paramedics arrived. She
was transported to a local hospital, where she was later
pronounced deceased. Now, Sam, as you know, one of the

(20:24):
the legends or the folklore of Disneyland is as nobody
dies at Disneyland, so they won't let any they won't
let anybody pronounce anyone dead at Disneyland. At the time,
they called it an unfortunate medical episode, no indication of
any operation issue with the attraction, which reopened soon after.

(20:44):
Representative for Disneyland confirmed that the guests required medical treatment
and later transported to a hospital. And according to the
Disney website, actually according to me the Dark website, yeah
I don't need them. The Haunted Mansion is dark and

(21:06):
contain some mildly frightening scenes, but there is no gore
except for the headless woman you know, and is described
as a slow moving ride guess boord a doom buggy. Yeah,
this is all true, you know. I mean, there's nothing
in there that should give someone a heart attack except
for one of those things when you get up into
the attic and then goes ah, you know, and they

(21:27):
pop out. But if you that's going to give you
a heart attack, that's kind of on you. And I
don't think anybody's saying, you know, but you know, you
never know. Someone could sue because that's what people do.
I'm sure there's lawyers trying to contact this woman and
have her sue the park, and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
So if I were to get a heart attack right now,
could I sue you for making that noise?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah? Sure, okay, but you'd have to survive somemm rey judgment,
which you might not. But what you so usually when
Disneyland and someone dies of Disneyland. They have this rule theoretically,
and this is all unconfirmed, but my sources say they
when when someone appears to be dead, they they instigate

(22:14):
a secret operation clandestine called Operation Parachute. Have you heard
of this?

Speaker 3 (22:21):
No, I have not.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yes, when someone is appears to have died, they they
they initiate Operation Parachute. This activates a team that comes
in and stealthily takes the body out of the park,
drives it to knots Berry Farm and dumps it off
below the parachute ride and and puts a chalk out

(22:45):
outline around the body and then gets out of there.
And they can do this very quickly, and then then
it's done. It's very clean, and then knots doesn't have
that you know problem. More people die there, the more
people go there actually inverse effect. So that's Operation Parachute. Yeah,
I'm surprised you haven't heard about it.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
It's the first I've heard. Actually, I knew that there
was something of that nature. I just didn't know that
it had an operation name.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, all right, And while we're talking about Disneyland, it's not.
A friend of mine called City was there at eight
forty five yesterday and they sold out a fast passes.
He said at seven point thirty they were out.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I didn't know that they could run out.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, because if they gave them to everybody, then then
the line would be too long, you know, I guess yeah. Okay,
so apparently, So what can you do if this happens?
This is I tried to do a little research on it,
and they say you can pre purchase a Lightning Lane multipass.
That's the paid fast pass replacement that used to be
the Genie Plus as a ticket add on when you

(23:51):
buy your ticket, and that protects you if same day
sales sell out. You still make your ride selections the
day of your visit, Like you can't make your right
selections in advance, but you can buy that thing in advance. Now,
individual Lightning Lane single pass selections for the most in
demand rides our day only. Like if you say, okay,

(24:13):
I'm gonna pay twenty dollars to not wait in line
on smugglers run in Star Wars Land, you buy those
the day of the show, but you can't buy those
in advance.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Okay, makes sense.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
So if you want, if you want to avoid these sellouts,
buy the multipass when you buy your ticket. All right,
it's public service announcement from this show. Okay, So I
think I've got let's see where I'm going next, jumping
around here in my docket. Let's go to the box office. Okay.

(24:49):
In the box office number one, we had a box
office dominated by Disney's Tron and roof Man, and then
and the plunging of the smashing Machine, which I kind
of panned. It's okay, but it's just not amazing. You remember, Sam,

(25:09):
I told you there was a fifteen minute standing ovation
at the Venice Film Festival for this movie.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, yeah, you mentioned that.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Well, I've heard, you know. I told that to enough people,
and then finally I told it to an entertainment industry
business manager accountant and she told me, oh, they hire
people to keep applauding in those Venice film festivals. And
she goes, I know, because I've paid the invoices.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
That's funny. There's nothing's real, you know, that is genuinely hilarious.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Nothing's real. But there's a job. There's a job for you.
Americans are actually Italians.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
You want to get into Hollywood somehow.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I start off as a film festival applauter terrible, and
I have two film festivals coming up this month, and
I promise you we have not hired anybody to applaud
for this movie. I have the I Was a Teenage
sex Pistols, which debuts on October twenty third at the
Barbican Theater in London. I'll be there for that premiere

(26:16):
and then the screening at the Newport Beach Film Festival
Newport Beach Film Festival for the film Harbor Chronicles. It's
a story of the Harbor surfboard legend, Rich Harper, with
the longest running surf shop in the history of the world,
is still open a couple it's about a few blocks

(26:39):
from where we're recording from today. And I'm the writer
and producer of that, and then the Sex Pistols one,
I'm an executive producer, And they're all just kind of happening.
You know. You make these things a long time ago,
you finished them a long time ago, and then they
kind of happened at the same time. And that's kind
of going on in the next two weeks. We won't
have any paid applause people that I know, but maybe

(27:02):
they can hand out candy to people. Could share my
red vines with them. If they will applaud longer, I'll
tell you how it goes.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Sam, Yeah, yeah, please do it.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Okay. So number one in the box office this week
is Tron directed by a nnamed Joaquim Ronning, known for
Pirates of the Caribbean stuff like that. Jared Leto is
the star of that movie. And they were talking about
a forty five million dollar like over under on the
weekend and it only did thirty three million. So that's

(27:34):
an under, I gotta tell you, But it's number one.
Number two is the debut of Roofman, directed by Derek
Cian France. I don't have them pronounce Derek's name seeing France,
Shadeham Tanning and Kurnston Dunst. Have you heard of this film?

Speaker 3 (27:53):
I have not.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I'll get back to it. One battle after another is
number three. That's still hanging on there. That's a great movie,
one of the best so far. In the top three
of the films I've seen this year. It's shaving up
to be a goodyear. There's some really good films out there.
So if you you could, if you're not in the
habit of going to the theaters because you think they're
not that good. Some really good movies out there, So

(28:16):
get back in the habit. So Paul Thomas Anderson's one
battle after another about these fighters. He's from Boogie Knights.
You might remember him there. We'll be played Pta and
Leonardo DiCaprio stars in his latest movie about this wrestler.

(28:36):
It doesn't win very much. Gabby's Aallhouse number three. Soul
on Fire, directed by Sean McNamara, known for Soul Surfer,
adapts Burn survivor John O'Leary's story with William H. Macy
about that, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
I'm intrigued. I always liked William H. Macy, very good actor.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
I always like Burn Burn victim of the Conjuring. The
Condre is still lingering around directed by Michael Chavis and
Demon Slayer Infinity Castle, directed by the lovable Haruo Sotazaki
is still doing well. Smashing Machine, as I said, sixty

(29:21):
nine percent drop off in its second week. Benny Saftie's
the director of that, known for uncut gems. Yeah, but
he need he needs to. That's not gonna help him
that much. Mark Kerr was the the wrestler that Dwayne
Johnson plays in that and Emily Blot. They're both great
in it. I thin it's worth seeing. It's just not.
I'm obviously just mad about the fifteen minute audience thing

(29:44):
because I was in su Blind has a song in it,
so I got a lot of in this film. So
I was like, oh, we got a song in one
of the and and perhaps the best movie of the
year with this fifteen minute standing ovation. Then I found
out people pay for that, and I'm like, but it's
still good and still worth seeing. Still, it's a it's
a it's kind of a story that you're never gonna

(30:05):
I mean, you're never gonna know, especially if you don't
know a lot about UFC fighting and the origins of
UFC fighting and how these guys struggled in UFC fighting before.
The guys like today they make a lot of money,
you know, and they're all they're just you know, multi millionaires,
and these guys were just getting their faces and heads
pounded in for minimum wage number.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Let's see. Then we have The Strangers Chapter two. It's
a Rennie Harlan directed movie. A guy who may die
hard too, and it's like a you know, Siege horror trilogy.
Blah blah, blah, the survivor faces off a mask trio
that kind of thing. Good boy about a dog haunted
house story. Have you got hanted haunted house movies and

(30:51):
scary movies and you like dogs? This is a hanted
house movie from a dog's point of view.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
That's terrifying.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, poor dog over Okay, Now, okay, what might be
the best movie of the year, or one of them
is Roofman. I've heard Man is true story about a
guy who lived in the Toys Arrest for months. I
can't go for more than three weeks living inside a
toys arrest, So hats off to this guy. He was

(31:20):
in there for months and he was a fugitive on
the lamb escaped from prison in ingenious way. He's just
like a Maguiver kind of can do anything but except
for the right thing basically. Yeah, and then he falls
in love with some Protestant.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Now when was this movie set?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Like?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
What year? What era?

Speaker 2 (31:42):
It's like that kind that two thousands okay, okay, yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
I remember here in Burbank, the place where that used
to be a kmart actually like became a toy us
and they were filming a movie there and I'm wondering
if it was the same film.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh yeah, because they needed a full toys arrests for
this and it takes place in I think in North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Okay, yeah, I drove by it. It's like right up
the street from me, so I got to see the
set as it was being filmed.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
A great film. So you're wondering where'd this director come from?
How do you become the guy to direct like the
best film of the year. And your name is Derek
Sean France and no one's ever heard of yet. Well,
he's an American and he's known for what they call raw,
intimate dramas about love, family, guilt, and legacy, often told
across years with naturalistic performances and handheld available lights style.

(32:45):
He made a movie called Blue Valentine, The Place Beyond
the Pines, the Light between the oceans, So things that
are beyond and between, I guess is what he's into.
He got co story credit on Sound of Metal. Do
you remember that about the deaf guy the drummer.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, yeah, yes, and.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
He got I think he got an OSCAR nomination for that.
And he he directed some HBO series called I Know
This Much Is True and Mark Ruffalo won an Emmy
for for something in that. So he just you know,

(33:23):
he's pulling out quality performances. He collaborates a lot with
Ryan Gosling and and he just you know, just hit
it big with this true crime romance about this true guy,
Jeffrey man Manchester's rooftop Burglaries and toys r us hideout.
So he he the guy could like he was a

(33:47):
veteran and he was very clever, but he just couldn't
seem to get ahead in life. And he just couldn't
find a niche for himself in this you know, ah,
struggling in this this world. It is not a simple
world to succeed in. And he couldn't provide for his

(34:10):
kids the way he wanted to. So he started cutting
holes in the tops of McDonald's and kind of like
when the and then he would pop out when the
uh manager came in to take the money out of
the safe to you know, to put in the tills
and get everything ready. That's what he did. And he

(34:33):
got caught. Then you escaped and you did. I'm not
going to give away everything, but oh yeah, you're gonna
love it. Yeah, there's some more news about television and movies. Paramount.
You know, Paramount bought CBS. I mean, uh David Ellis.
Ellison bought uh CBS and Paramount and then making some

(35:01):
changes over there. He brought in this woman, Barry Weiss,
and installed her is the head of CBS News. Everybody
at the CBS News believes they're going to be fired
because she is known for as she was canceled at
the New York Times kind of she quit the New
York Times because she didn't fall in line with everybody's views.
She's not a lefty or a righty, but she's I

(35:24):
think she's kind of anti pc DEI politically correctness, very
pro Israel. CBS had been known for running some anti
Israel stories lately, and she's going to come in and
probably put a stop to that. So people are a
little bit worried about what she going to do, but
we'll see. It's kind of interesting to me since I

(35:46):
used to work at CBS, but CBS News it carries
a lot of weight, you know, around the world and
shaping public opinion, you know, Walter Cronkite, but it's only
three percent of the like cool you know, Paramount CBS World,
but it's it's kind of an outsized piece of property

(36:06):
that is probably kind of like a headache for David Ellison.
He's got to deal with it. Okay, let's see what
else they got, Sam Okay, bad celebrities in the bad
celebrity category.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Shm, there a few, ben quite a few.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I got a few. How was this one? New York
City mayorial candidate Zoharan Mandani says producers of The Late
Show with Stephen Colbert pitched a thumbs up thumbs down
game about Gaza ahead of his June appearance, which he
called inappropriate and trivializing. The idea was dropped, though Colbert

(36:53):
did ask him on air whether Israel has a right
to exist. CBS declined to comment reports up the exchange,
which resurfaced this week as Mom Donnie discussed the episode
in a new profile. Evidently they called him and said,
can you play a game with us about Gaza? And
it was like, you know, this is an area of

(37:16):
you know, genocide, ethnic cleansing. So he's now coming out
and throwing Colbert right under the bus, saying that Colbert
is not sensitive to the people of Gaza because he
wanted to make a game out of it. So not
good for Colbert, but he's on his way out anyway.
But we all know that he'll get some platform like

(37:37):
a YouTube thing and make ten times more money than
he ever made it CBS, so nobody is weeping for him.
I like these podcasts because I'm just going to whip
through this.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
We don't have it breaks and we just whipped right
through and we're good.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Okay, Mansion, is this that? Okay? Okay? Paddington Bear might
as well get to You remember what the title of
our Paddington Bear episode was?

Speaker 3 (38:17):
I honestly couldn't. I could, but I do remember the
Paddington Bear.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
It had something to do with cocaine. Yes, I forget well.
Studio Canal and the Estate of Paddington creator Michael Bond
filed it a British High Court complaint over a new
episode of the show Spitting Image. I don't know if

(38:41):
you know that it's political satire using puppets, really ugly
English puppets. They're ledging copyright and design right violations after
the show portrayed Paddington as a foul mouthed drug using podcaster.
Creators of the show Spitting Image, Al Maray and matt

(39:03):
Ford said they are bakelet by the lawsuit they called
a sketch satire and insist this parody isn't going anywhere.
That show is on a million is on YouTube, attracting
millions as the dispute gains attention. So now I'm sure
if you're listening to this show, you want to go
to YouTube and watch Paddington Bear. I sent you a

(39:32):
little bit of it.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah I saw that, Okay, but.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
You're not going to play it right now, that's what
you're saying.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Well, because you sent it to my text message, I
would need it in the email for me to.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Be able to end. Oh I thought I did. I
think I was like in the middle of something and
then I had a problem today. I got lost all
my work in the like you know, like it was
nineteen eighty nine. I lost all my work preparing for
the show because I didn't have that thing clicked on
my word things as auto sayd oh was tragic. Anyway,

(40:03):
if you go to YouTube and you can see Paddington
Barry's a cocainet, wow, because he went to Peru.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Somebody spiked Yeah, somebody spiked the marmalade.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Well, yeah, padding it was something like Paddington's Peruvian Marching Powder.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yes, I think that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
That was the name of our episode. Anyways, this is
like there's a couple of bad lawsuits out there. This
one's bad because people making parodies. He's in a scene
with Prince Harry, Prince Harry and Paddington Bear. Obviously you
know it's parody. It's not really Prince Harry and it's
not really his opinions or whatever. And Paddington Bear is

(40:41):
doing cocaine. We know Paddington Bear doesn't do cocaine, but
you know, we don't want to stifle people's rights to
parody things. To me, Studio Canal and then they made
fun of them in an episode of the lawsuits, so
they're kind of the backlashes coming. And then Spitting Image
has never been hotter, and they were like calling it
Studio Canal. They were calling it Studio cee Anal and

(41:04):
they were like, we don't understand what that is. So
that's a not going anywhere. I don't think so. I mean,
I you know, things could be different in England, but
all that show does is parody every week, day in

(41:26):
and out. That's all they're doing. And Paddington Bear going
to Peru and snorting a bunch of Peruvian marching powder.
That's funny. I did it myself here they copied me obviously. Okay,
Now we go to this other one that we've talked
about a lot of Federal judge has dismissed Drake's defamation
lawsuit against the Universal Music Group over the release and

(41:47):
promotion Kendrick Lamar's Distracked Not Like Us. In a written order,
Judge Jeannette Vargas ruled the song is opinion and hyperpole
in the context of a rap battle, not factual assertions
that Drake is a pedo file. Universal called the suit
in affront to creative expression. Drake's camp says it will

(42:08):
appeal the courts take away. In defamation law, context matters.
Trash talk in a distract isn't the same as a
verified factual claim. So what do we have to have
in defamation? We have to have something that's not true,
makes people spit on the ground, and if it's a celebrity,

(42:29):
it has to have actual mouice. So in this case,
the judge is dealing mostly with the context and saying
nobody thinks this is It may not be true. It
may be true, maybe true, may not be true, but
nobody thinks that Kendrick Lamar's asserting that he has actual
facts that he's a pedophile and he's disclosing them and

(42:50):
then it's not true. Now Drake's people say, whoa in
the thing? He says, I've got like information that I'm
going to buy to release, or I've got more information
like this is this is this is just I don't
remember the lyrics, but he's like saying, this is the
tip of the iceberg. I've got more, you know than this.

(43:11):
So they were saying that indicates that he's asserting this
is fact and he has, you know, the receipts to
back it up. So it might make people believe, Wow,
he's a pedophile because this guy saying he has all
the evidence and he's just gonna, you know, produce it. Later,
Judge didn't buy that. Judge said, this is hyperbole in
a distrack. It's a wrap battle. No one's gonna take

(43:33):
it serious. That was basically the thing, what are your damages?
My damages are to my reputation, So you have to
have actual, improvable damages in these things. What are they
my reputation my records. Well, the judge is saying, I
don't think those that's true because people know that in
a distract, people say that, so nobody, nobody doesn't buy records,

(43:55):
or because they because someone called you a pedophile the
stone and it's weird. This thing was also weird because
they both are on the same record label, Universal Music Group.
So he was suing his own label saying, how dare
you promote that track? You're doing it and you're promoting
it to make him big and be small, and you're

(44:16):
hurting me every time you do it. Now, this is
what goes on with these guys. This guy is such
a narcissist, this drake. By the way, he's a Canadian.
So we're not even talking about Americans right here, right now,
right them, am I right?

Speaker 3 (44:31):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Okay, this Canadian comes into our country and it's trying
to change the laws to say that rap battles can't exist.
Rat battles are a time honored tradition and it goes
back to the I think it goes back to even
Africa or the Cajun South playing the dozens. You've heard

(44:54):
of this, yep? Absolutely, yeah, So this is this is tradition.
You know. It's like it goes back to your mama
so fat that when she sits around the house, she
sits around the house, that kind of stuff. Your mama
is so fat. When she goes outside in a yellow raincoat,
people drop by yelling hey, taxi, stuff like that. That's

(45:20):
that's a tradition, that's culture. This Canadian would like to
come into our country and make that illegal. Now, maybe
in England they throw where they throw people in jail
for posting things like this, but not in this country. Not.

(45:42):
I mean, so you Canadians and you English people, you
got to stay out of our creative expression because we
value it. And I think this judge made the right decision.
And for Drake to think what if he wins, like
he doesn't even think about that, what if he one?
Because sometimes we have bad decisions in this in this country,

(46:04):
like when Pharrell and Robin Thick lost that lawsuit to
the estate of.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Oh Marvin Gay.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Marvin Gay. Yeah, that was a bad decision and ruined
a lot of court cases after that. People brought too
many lawsuits thinking they're gonna win anyway. This one's even worse.
But you maybe could find a jury that would say, yeah,
uh this this you and you created defamation. It was
something makes people split on the ground and it wasn't

(46:41):
true and you were trying to Your actual malice could
be you were trying to lower his record sales so
you could increase yours. Now that's kind of satisfies all
the elements. So then you have to go, Okay, what
are the damages. Well, even if it went forward and
they they won, Jeriy could come back and say, yeah,

(47:02):
you went Now a smart judge would say what are
the damages, and the damages phase of the trout. Smart
judge would say, there's no damages here because it's a
rap battle. You idiots. Yeah, you Canadian. I'm not saying
all Canadians are bad. I'm just saying this one wants
to chip away at our ability to create. That's what

(47:29):
he's trying to do. And if he wins, then then
nobody can have these rap battles because they would be
too much legal liability. I'm not saying every case would
be adjudicated in the same way, but there would be
legal liability. So record labels wouldn't want to release these
kinds of distracts because they would not want to go

(47:49):
to jail or be sued into oblivion? Is that the
kind of world we want to live in? Evidently Canadian
Drake wants to live in that world, and so I
mean in England is headed towards that now, but we
don't want it. So this judge is a great patriot.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Uh, there's no better way to say it, show everybody
that you lost a rap battle than to sue and
lose the lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Well that's a very important point too, because also for
street credit in the punk rock world, in the you
don't use the courts to settle your beefs. In the
biker world, you know, motorcycle clubs, same code of conduct.
You don't go to the police. You handle things, have

(48:38):
ethics yo. Yeah, so he he Drake should have known
you handle things by putting out more distracts not going
to court. Yeah, tailbit sys embarrassing so he Yeah. He
definitely is the biggest loser of a wrap battle in
the history of rap battles.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Okay, I think we're good.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
I think we're good. Maybe the greatest podcast in the
history of podcasting. Okay, we will see you next week.
Hopefully we won't be preempted but you know, sometimes we
can't help them. And as long as the National Football
League is still going, which it is, we'll just give

(49:26):
it a try every week. And I will see you
at the Newport Beach Film Festival for the Harbor Chronicles
or the Barbicon Theater in London for I was a
teenage sex Pistols. And I will also see you this
Friday at the Mission Bay Festival where Sublime will be
headlining on Saturday night. And other than that, I leave

(49:46):
you now with just a taste of the greatest song
ever written.
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