This Week's Pantheon of Alleged Industry Rapists...

Joe Escalante's weekly lambasting of the business end of showbiz. This week: after a brief look at the Box Office and the amazing new Pee-Wee Herman documentary on HBO, the show gets overwhelmed by Celebs Behaving Badly... There's a theme this week: Alleged industry rapists (and not one mention of professor emeritus of alleged non-consensual debauchery Harvey Weinstein!). Diddy's trial had explosive testimony from a former personal assistant. Joe discusses how the prosecution may have difficulty getting a conviction on these charges. Smokey Robinson fires back at the four former housekeepers that accused him and his wife of sexual assault. Russell Brand pleads not guilty to Rape and Sexual Assault charges, trial is set for ONE YEAR FROM NOW. And Shannon Sharpe is in A LOT of trouble... Allegedly...

Did I say allegedly enough? 

Allegedly.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Joe Escalante live from Hollywood, by Hollywood, you mean Burbank.
This is two hours of the Business, end of show Business,
every Sunday from five to seven. Im K e IB
eleven fifty on your AM dial. Engineer Sam is here,
Hi Sam, Hello, How you doing pretty good? We've got
a box office activity, more signs that the box office

(00:33):
is doing well and the movie theaters aren't really gonna
disappear just yet. Leila and Stitch holding strong at the
number one spot. We've got some new films making a splash,
karate Kid Legends and a twenty fours Horriflick. Bring her
back doing some business, and we will get into that
a little bit later. Then you know, we're gonna talk

(00:56):
about Sam. We're gonna talk a little bit about Pee
Wee as himself off the HBO documentary that I don't
know if you've seen anybody can see it. All you
have to do is have HBO, which is called HBO again,
I guess. And of course we got the headlines the
Diddy trial, some news of the Hannah Gutiers read Rust Armor,

(01:20):
and then Russell Brand's in trouble, Smoky Robinson's fighting back,
Michael Jackson. The State Is is Michael Jackson biopic with
starring the nephew of Michael Jackson, and that's a mess.
Like everything else. It's the age of bungling, is my
friend Rob Long says, it's the age of bugling. Bungling

(01:42):
interesting like you had the age of the had the
atomic age, then you had the the information age. Computers
come out, and now we have the age of bungling. Yeah,
things like like the Iraq War in Afghanistan and COVID

(02:05):
just bungling everywhere, and Michael Jackson biopic just right in
there with the age of bungling. All right, let's you
know what, let's just do that. We're gonna get to
the pee wee thing probably in the next segment, but
just a rundown on the movies Lilo and Stitch number one,

(02:27):
Mission Impossible, Number two, Karate Kid Legends, Number three, Final Destination, Bloodlines,
then that a twenty four film, Bring Her Back Centers.
Everyone's telling me how great it is. I have a
feeling if I go see it, I'll go Eh Thunderbolt's Friendship.
I get a lot of good reaction to friendship from

(02:51):
people I know. And the last Rodeo and then there's
a movie about a J pop tour or a Jay Hope.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Tour, Jay Hope to or Hope on the stage. Okay,
I've heard incredible things about Bringer Back. It's the A
twenty four horror flick. There's a lot of I mean,
A twenty four is going to be putting out a
lot of stuff that's, you know, the the stuff that
tends to become cult classics, the underground movies that everybody

(03:20):
tries to overhype. This one, actually, from what I'm hearing
and seeing, is really good.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well, we'll have to I think we should save that
for a radio show hosted by people that saw the movie.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, I know, And that's what I'm waiting to do.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm also waiting to see the pee Wee documentary. I'm
going to be seeing that one later on tonight, I
think at home.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, pee Wee. It's you know, it's it's it's very good,
well crafted documentary. It's uh, I look like we've never
had into the mind of Paul Rubens, and it provides
the what is unfortunately the final word on his life

(04:05):
and legacy, because he passed away in twenty twenty three.
B Herman's real name Paul Rubens. Paul Ruben's real name
Paul Rubinfeld.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I thought he'd name himself after the sandwich. I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well maybe he did, But it's funny because he was.
The movie goes through his you know, he just he's
gay as a kid. Oh, I guess I'm gay, and
parents are like, all right, the kid's gay. Whatever. And
then he is in a total gay relationship with a
guy and then he decides they broke up, and he goes,

(04:43):
I gotta focus on my career and I got an
not be gay, like I have to go back in
the closet. So very rarely do you see a guy
who's out and then goes back in the closet to
pursue his Hollywood dreams. And then it didn't really ever
come out of the closet too much, and he had

(05:04):
some real bad legal problems towards the end, which were
just really sad. I mean what, It's one of those
things where he had a blessed life and all his
dreams came true. Everything deserved solid citizen by all measures

(05:25):
other than an insatiable desire for marijuana cigarettes. But you know,
if your biggest vice is marijuana, cigarettes and dirty pictures
of adults. I mean, you're in Hollywood. You're in the
top one percentile.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
My friend, you had to see it coming. I mean,
the guy was in a Cheech and Chong movie before
he was ever known as Pewee Herman. So it's and
in that movie he was in, he was he was
exceptionally high on some on a bunch of different substances. So,
oh yeah, for a lot of people, like to we

(06:04):
tend to romanticize our heroes, and a lot of people
had Pee Wee as a hero because they saw him.
They only recognized him as Pee Wee when they were
growing up his children, and they didn't realize that this
guy had like not just you know, a past, he
had a filmography where he was doing stuff that was
a little bit illicit.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
At one point in the movie, they talk about a
movie that he made earlier in his career that as
he got really famous, he said that looked like a
movie that would be a really good idea if it
didn't exist and no one had any access to it anymore.
And he made that happen, he said in that in
I guess before the Internet, you know, he just made

(06:45):
this movie go Away. He probably bought it and just
destroy it, but there's scenes from it in this movie.
It looks like a like a gay couple living together
and you know, really boring fights or you know, just
a lot of I call those movies bit bit bitpy.
They just keep talking bit bit bit bitby. It looked

(07:07):
like one of those. You get a lot of those
when you have like an under served or marginalized community
and then they make movies. They tend to be over talkative,
could be gay people, could be Latino people. They're just like,
you know, so much drama and not much else. It

(07:27):
looked like one of those. So I don't think we
lost anything there, but I thought that was kind of
interesting myself. He made a movie, he wiped a movie out.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, so how often do you think that happens in Hollywood?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Well, it can't happen anymore because once stuff's on the internet.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Oh yeah, but I mean I'm sure that there have
been other movies that have been disappeared.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oh sure for sure. But that's why I tell people
and they ask me, like, if you want to do
something like let's say you want to do a mashup
of a song, and you should you ask permission or
should you just kind of put it out and see
what happens. Now the arguments for asking for permission is
you have less legal exposure. But if they say no,

(08:12):
you're it's over kind of if you're trying to be
above board. But if you put it out and then
they then you, then you can even go to them
and say, hey, we have this thing I kind of
went viral. We didn't we weren't planning on releasing it
or something like that. I could could we license it
from you didn't make it all legit? And then they'll

(08:32):
go like then the discussion internally with their side is
these guys want to license it, they don't have much money,
and then if we say no, it's already on the internet.
So why don't we just try to get some money
out of them and just move on with our lives,
unless it's like something that you know, really hurts the
underlying work.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
So there was a series of parodies that you know, me,
I have written in song, A ton of song parodies
for radio played in my history, but the one that
I like the there was a group a group of
parodies that was online early in like YouTube where they
were doing that they were just basically describing what was

(09:15):
happening in the video. So they made the song parody,
but the parody itself was describing what was happening in
the video. Yeah, they called them literal videos.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Okay, that's that is a legitimate fair use because you
are you are mocking the original content. So you're you're
creating an editorial on the original content, the video, not
the song. Yeah, but it's a video. I mean it's
the video of the song, right, yes, Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Because those videos got pulled off. I think they got
heat from lawyers and they caved.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, if they cave, if you want a cave. But
that's a legitimate fair use argument. Also fair use doctrine
maybe back then wasn't as developed, but the fair use
doctrine now, I mean you would say, you are you
are making a comment on the original content, and the
only way you can really make your content is by

(10:12):
playing some of the original material or so in this case,
the music, and you're and that's how you point to
that video that you're making fun of, and your commentary,
which you have a free speech to write to make,
you get to use the underlying material. And if that flies,
then you don't need permission, you don't have to pay money.
It is a fair use. So that's a pretty good argument,

(10:34):
way better than most parodies that are just being funny,
like oh I have my Sharona was the big one
when I was little that the parody was Ayatola when
we were all mad at Iran for the hostages.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I have a couple other questions on that, but we
do need to get to a break in.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Let's check the traffic because you know people are suffering
out there, Sam when we come back. More on Joe
Scalante Live from Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Joe A.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Scalante Live from Hollywood. By hollywoodn't mean Burbank. Here we
are okay, we're talking about pee Wee and pee Wee
ads himself directed by a guy named Matt Wolfe, and
there's a lot of a recurring theme in the film
is in Just so you are less confused, this is

(11:20):
on HBO and it's a two part documentary, so it's
about three hours plus. It's not a series, I would say,
I say it's just a two I think it's a
really long feature documentary, or you could call it a
limited series documentary, but you really wouldn't want to cut
anything out of it, Like you could make a ninety

(11:43):
minute documentary, like a standard feature documentary out of pee
Wee Herman's life. Sure, but after watching this, I wouldn't
take anything out. It's it's I mean, it's just kind
of answers, you know, almost all your questions about like
what was it like for him to be like this?

(12:04):
To be like how did he get there? How do
you become pee wee Herman Man? You can't. No one
can tell you how to become pee Wee Herman except
for pee Wee Herman. And p we Herman goes into
detail and and he just gives the nuggets from like, well,
there was this I had this thing when I was
a kid and it said pee wee on it or something.

(12:26):
I thought that was funny. And then there was a
kid at my school named Herman. He was peculiar. So
I thought, pee wee Herman, that's a good one. Sounds
like a name that is not made up. Because if
you were going to make up a name, wouldn't you
make up a better one for yourself? And so he
had all these ideas and then the so many characters

(12:47):
that when he's at the groundlings you know, there are
are those people at the groundling improv classes there, you know,
come up with characters all the time and workshopping them
and stuff, and this one just kind of clicked his
other one that he thought was going to make it
for him. It's like called like long Tow something. It
was a Native American character, and he thought that was

(13:10):
going to take him to stardom.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
That would be timeless.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Not Yeah, it didn't. The videos of it in the
movie did not age well. And he doesn't show his
uh you're not hearing him talk or the jokes or something.
I don't He doesn't want you to see that, and
he apologizes for it. But that's what he thought was
going to carry him to start start him was the
Native American guy with like, uh, you know, big head

(13:34):
dress and a lot of skin showing and a lot
of dancing, and yeah, you can make Native Americans really
funny characters, and they and and and Hollywood has mostly
in cartoons, you know, like the Western ones are usually
just okay, that's a white guy playing a Native American.

(13:55):
That's kind of sad. But then in the in the cartoons,
you know, we all had some fun with that, but
you can't do that. But he was he just you know,
but it was it was low hanging fruit, you know,
just like, oh, this is this is this is a
great bit. But luckily he like pee Wee Herman.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I'm picturing how things would have been had he been
like Long Toe's Big Adventure and Big Top Long Toe
instead of Pee Wee. You know, it wouldn't have been good.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
In many ways. You know, maybe it would have been
if we weren't so uptight. Maybe we could all enjoy that.
We don't really know, but the Yeah, the tension with
the director in the film is interesting because he doesn't
trust his own director, and he talks about it while
he's while he's asked, answering the questions, and it's kind

(14:41):
of you can see that maybe at some time he thought, well,
I can direct my own documentary. But who's gonna buy it.
No one's gonna buy that. It's telling you like, for
people that are out there making documentaries, nobody would buy that.
It would just because nobody wants a documentary that would
be a a fluff piece.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
It would be self serving, Yeah, to the nth degree.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, And you have to have some perspective on the
life and this director he's pushing back the whole time,
but he's saying really funny things and showing you what
a funny guy he was, what a smart guy he
was right till the end. So I definitely recommend watching

(15:28):
this if you're of any any kind of affinity for
p we Herman, And for me, that was just, you know,
a huge, huge deal in the eighties, and I used
to see him do his show. I never went, like,
because when the punk rock shows are going on in
the early eighties, late seventies, actually late seventies, I'm going

(15:48):
to punk rock shows in the Sunset Strip and you
would walk by the Roxy and there would be pee
Wee Herman, pee we Herman's Party or pee Herman's Playhouse.
I forgot what they call it, like a party or something.
I think that was when it became a kids show,
but I think when it was just called pee Wee's,
I don't remember. But you would always see it at

(16:09):
the Marquee at the Roxy when you were like walking
from your parking space to the whiskey, or when you're
walking to a liquor store or something. But I never
went in because it was like, I'm not going to
drive to Hollywood and see a weird thing that's not
a punk rock band. So I just never went. But
of course when the when the TV show came out,

(16:31):
you know, a huge fan of the movies. I got
to meet him eventually at a birthday party for Marty
Croft from Sydney. Marty Croft. Yeah here, I was a
birthday party for Marty and and then Pee Wee came
in with Beverly DeAngelo and I finally got to meet him.
So that was cool.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Beverly di'angelo, that's nice.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I mean he hung out with girls like that. You'll
see it in the documentary, like he didn't. There's no
public boyfriend of Pee Wee Herman, but he was a gay.
Where's his boyfriend? He said? He had a lot of relationships,
but there's one public one because that one was the
one before he went back in the closet. But he

(17:13):
was hanging around with uh Mazar, Debi Mazar.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I think they call those beards.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, it was kind of a beard situation.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Everybody is it? Yes, yes, it is?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Well it's black, isn't It's not black with Black Music
Month at Disneyland.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Oh nice, that's kind of yeah. I definitely want to
see that.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's probably going to be pretty good. Yeah uh.
And Disney is having their seventieth anniversary right now. There's
all kinds of cool things going on there. I honestly,
if I have anything else to say about Pee Wee's
as himself before we go to break what the critics
are saying. The critics are one hundred percent on cdics
reviews based on thirty one critics on Rotten Tomatoes, eighty

(18:03):
two out of one hundred on Metacritic. So it's universal.
Everybody loves this thing, and so take some time out
and watch the whole thing. There is a villain in it, though.
The villain's name is Rocky Dell Godio. He used to

(18:24):
be the City Attorney of Los Angeles. He is the
number one villain in the series. He for political reasons,
prosecuted Pee Wee Herman for a sham charge just to
get him like for like, ah, we're going after people,
and that was the saddest part of his life what

(18:46):
Rocky Dell Godio did to him. All right. Joe Scalante
Live from Hollywood, Joe'sclante Live from Hollywood, by Hollywood, you
mean Burbank. This is two hours of the business end
of show business every Sunday from five to seven on
k E I B. That's eleven fifty on your AM dial. Okay,

(19:08):
moving on from from pe Wee Herman and Sam. You
had some questions on fair use. We talked a little
bit about fair use and parodies and you had a question.
If you repeat the question, I we'll give you an answer.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah. I don't know how we got to the topic,
but I remember we were having that conversation. And the
question that I had was because I'd done a bunch
of song parodies back in the day, and.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
So you're a radio veteran doing song parodies for like
morning radio people that like the Ayatola thing I was
talking about.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, similar Yatola.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Do do do do do do do do?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
And a lot of those fair use rules kicked in
while I was doing it, so I went from being
able to do it to not being able to do it.
But I was wondering because there was one parody that
I made that had it took the It was a
song that had no lyrics to it at all, and
I put lyrics to the song. It was the Star
Wars theme, So I was wondering, does that fall in

(20:08):
because there's no lyrics to it, and I'm just adding lyrics.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, what we were talking about before was if you
had a song with lyrics you were describing a video
of what bann was that one.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
It was a group that just made a bunch of
song parodies based off of what literally was happening during
the video. They called them literal.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Okay. So one of the things that in Fairies, probably
this isn't the one that people get wrong the most.
They all know like, oh, well, if this is people
think like a fair use, how do you use somebody's
copyrighted material without asking for permission and paying under a
fair use doctrine? Like it's a parody. People think like, well,
if you only use so much, or if you are

(20:52):
educational institution, you're not making money off it or something.
But the real problem that where people miss it is
you have to be it's a it's a free speech issue.
So you have a free speech to criticize and comment
on things. Now, sometimes you're to criticizing a comment. To
get that point across, you have to use some of

(21:15):
the underlying material. And so if you use only as
much as you need to get that point across, then
that could qualify as a fair use. That means you
don't need permission and you don't need to pay. But
you're saying you may come up with lyrics for a
Star Wars Star Wars and your and the lyrics are

(21:36):
about what was the subject of the lyrics?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
It was I was running the board for kf I,
our sister station, and for Dean Sharp the house Wisterer.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Okay, it's drywall. Okay, drywall. If you're singing about drywall,
that's not a free You don't have a right to
talk about You have a right to talk about dryball.
But you can't drag George lu or John Williams into it. Okay,
you just don't. You don't have a right because it
has nothing to do with Star Wars, so you can't.
It's different than those other people making describing the actual

(22:10):
video or commenting on the video, so that one is
a note.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Okay. So if I were to make fun of the
Star Wars movie using the Star Wars song, would that
be doable?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
If I was George Lucas, I would shut you down too,
because or John Williams, whoever, I'm sure I don't know
who would own that now. But John Williams, a composer.
I would shut you down because you don't have a
right to talk about the You have a right to
make fun of the Star Wars movie, but do you

(22:43):
have a right you're using the Star Wars song that
he wrote. Now you're not commenting on the song, you're
commenting on the movie.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah. So again that's not prominently featured in the movie.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
True. So this is a court battle that no, but
he can afford. And and and these the people you
know who doesn't believe in fair use, the person who's
copyrighted content is being lifted that every time, they're gonna
tell you the fair use doesn't matter. Are your your
argument doesn't pass the four prong test.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Okay, So just to be clear, if I make fun.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
And then you go to court, you fight.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
If I may. If I write lyrics that are making
fun of the Star Wars song, yes, cool, I won't
be treading into dangerous legal waters. But if I start
making fun of the Star Wars movie while making a
song about lyrics or adding lyrics to the Star Wars
theme song, I am treading on dangerous legal waters.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Right, And then you have things like Saturday Night Live
where Bill Murray added lyrics to Star Wars. Yes, and
he was Star Wars. It was nothing but star those
crazy Star Wars. That's kind of making fun of the

(24:04):
movie a little bit. But on Saturday Night Life, they
kind of get away with a lot, and people really
want to assue them, so they push the envelope and
and it's all depends. It's not what the law says
in these cases, it's what the paranoid lawyer for the
distributor of the material says. That's the judge and jury.

(24:24):
In most fair use discussions, it's just like there's a
lawyer somewhere going tell me why you think it's a
fair use because of this this, And then they go, man,
I'm gonna say no, don't. I don't need the headache.
I don't need a letter from that person. Now, when
on the shows I've made for Fox Nation, they would

(24:44):
have me go get a lawyer, get a letter from
a lawyer, not me, but another lawyer, and explain why
it's fair use, and they would accept it every time. However,
if I ever mentioned a dead person, they would tell
me you can't mention a dead person. And that was
their own because they had some problems with like mentioning
a dead person and they would get a media backlash,

(25:09):
and so that would be paranoid about that, not so
much about the fair use so kind of, but that's
the lawyer at the distributor in that case was Fox
that was distributing my TV shows, and they their lawyer
was the God, well, the all knowing God.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, I'm sure they would have some of one or
two way high priced lawyers on top of that.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Kind Yeah, they're like, I don't want to I don't
want to hassle this. But they were very very generous
with my fair use things. They would go like, Okay, wait,
how much of this God's the other thing are you using?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Are you giving me a letter from somebody? Oka? Yeah,
are you fine?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well that's why Weird now always seems to have to
get everybody's permission going into making the parodies that he makes.
Although there was one song he made that was making
fun of the song that he didn't have to, but
I'm sure he went and reached out. It was George
Harrison for I Got My Mind Set on You. He
changed to this song is just six words long?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh uh, yeah, that would be a classic fair use,
no permission needed. No, no, you have to pay. But
if you ask George Harrison, you are likely to meet
one of the Beatles.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Well yeah, and that alone would make me want to
make fun of any Beatles song.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, exactly. I've only met one Beatle? Which one I met? Oh,
Pal McCartney. Cool, super nice guy, he's the cute one.
I don't know if you know that. Okay, let's see

(26:41):
Michael Jackson biopic.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Okay, speaking of the Beatles and the person who owned
their entire album collection.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Not only that, but the Bones of the Elephant Man
according to wild rumors.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I mean, the rumors were there. I don't know if
it was true that.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's a great room, yeah,
because everybody knows I own those. The upcoming Michael Jackson
biopic is facing significant delays and script revisions due to
a previously undisclosed legal agreement. According to reports, the film's
initial script violated a legal agreement between Michael Jackson's estate

(27:20):
and Jordan Chandler otherwise known as Little Jordi, who accused
Jackson of molestation in the nineteen ninety three book that
he wrote called Michael Jackson was My Lover, which I
had to go to Circus of Books to buy, which
is like a gay bookstore, and no one had it
because it was banned.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
So if you saw me in the gay bookstore that day,
I was buying a book that you can't that we
otherwise you could not buy anywhere else. Nothing weird was
going on the agreement. There was an agreement that stipulated
Chandler Jordi, who accused Michael Jackson of molestation in nineteen
ninety three, would not be dramatized in any film about

(28:00):
the late pop star. The current version of the biopic, however,
is said to have included all kinds of dramatizations of
that guy. He acts. So uh, they everybody, no one look,
no one, no one told them, and they made the
whole movie and they put this kid in it. So
the estates like, why do you have this? Why is

(28:21):
there a bunch of stuff about this kid that says
he was molested? I don't know, So they had to
they go, you can't do that. Michael Jackson's nephew is
in the movie, so they know and told.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Them, wait, which one is his dad? Which one of
the brothers say Tito. Let's just say Tito because we
don't I know, because Jermaine and him had issues with
each other throughout their lives. Tito, I mean, Tito's awesome.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I don't know who it was, but you know, it
couldn't be one of Michael Jackson's kids. Really, that wouldn't
make sense. But it has to be like, uh, one
of the nephews that we know is a Jackson. I
don't know where those other ones came from. The current
version of A quick Okay, let's see. As a result,
the movie's cast and crew are being called back for
reshoots and extensive script rewrites to address this legal issue. Wow.

(29:08):
So this is a movie that it's you could see
it's already being whitewashed. And I mean, how many millions
did this cost?

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
People, it's the age of bungling.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Do you think there's ever going to be a director's
cut of this one?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:27):
That would be good. The book was good. The book
was crazy, like the dad's got the guy's dad was
a dentist, and he brought him over there to the state,
you know, and did the whole thing like, Oh, maybe
my kid's going to be famous, and but he was really,
according to the book, being groomed and forced to drink

(29:48):
Jesus juice to loosen up.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Was it Jesus juice or Jeseus juice because tequila is
a little too heavy.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I'm thinking it was Jesus juice. It's it's read wine.
And he would that was what was in the books
that he would, you know, I just drink some Jesus juice.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Drink Jesus.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Oh Jesus, don't you with Christ? Don't you yeah? Have
some of this. Jesus drinks it. Uh So it's very cruel.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Did he have crackers too little once that were like
this was also part of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
That doesn't help him in his perverted agenda.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Well, I mean, if they were hungry, why.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Spend money on crackers?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But Jesus juice Jesus.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I mean, this is what they said said in the book.
I don't know that it's that's that's true. I do
know pretty good inside of information that those kids were
all sleeping in the bed with them from people that
were like, we're tidying up, yeah afterwards, and they don't.
It doesn't mean he touched them all or any of them,
but they all shared a bed. But once you share

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a bed with little kids, you know you you you
can't blame people for getting weird and trying to throw
you in jail. Oh that's disgusting. All right, let's take
a break and we'll talk about something a little more palatable,
like the p Diddy trial updates when we come back

(31:09):
on Joe's Galante Live from Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Joe.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Live from Hollywood. Okay, Yeah, we are going over the
week's stories from the business end of show business, like
we do every week here on KiB and uh we
got to cover it, Sam, do we have to this

(31:34):
week in the high profile Sean diddy Comb's trial.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Oh God, I have purposely avoided eating ahead of the
show because of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Well, this personal assistant, she's identified as Mia, I'm not
sure if that's her real name. She delivered a compelling
testimony detailing alleged sexual assault and abuse by the music mogul.
Mia recounted incidents of sexual assault being thrown into a

(32:04):
guess what, she was thrown into a bowl of jell o? No,
a wall, No, a swimming pool. That's why I'm saying this, Yeah,
swimming pool. Yeah, That's why I'm saying this case is
is a lot weaker than people think.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
A swimming pool.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, she was. She went on, she went in the
court and said I was thrown into a swimming pool.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
See, she recounted incidents of sexual assault. Was she one
of the victims or was she just she observed it?
She observed it, okay, And she herself was not sexually assaulted.
She was just thrown into a swimming pool.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
And well she also had a bucket of ice dumped
on her during her eight year tenure with Combs.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Was that an ice bucket challenge?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
She was fighting als and but really loved als and
didn't want to fight it. I don't even mean to
make light, but.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
But I mean you can see how you can cast
doubt on the testimony, and I mean the severity of
things there. You can't cast out on her eyewitnessing incidents
of sexual assault. But if you were a lawyer on
the other side, you would be going after any of
those moments, like you you know, being thrown into a

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pool or having a bucket of ice.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I just don't If I was a lawyer, I would say,
you know what, leave out that getting thrown into a pool,
because that's not really people. Some guy in AM radio
is gonna make funny here I am. She described a
chaotic and toxic work environment where Combs was a controlling
boss whose mood could change in a split second. Okay,
This also describes eighty percent of work environments in Hollywood.

(33:44):
At least. Her testimony echoed that of other witnesses. So
if it's you know, bolstered, that gives it credibility. But
it but these articles, these articles are all set up
to like people. People want to read these articles and
make themselves feel better that they are not p Diddy.
And no matter how rich and powerful and glamorous his

(34:06):
life is, theirs is better or it's just like you know,
they're not, they feel a little bit better about them. So so,
and that's the clickbait, I think. And then and you're
reinforcing what people already think. But when you when you
when you dig a little deeper, and that's what we
do here. I hope, Okay, toxic work environment. His mood
can change, okay. And then the other witness that said

(34:28):
the same thing was Cassie, the one who had a
twenty million dollars settlement. And then it's still you know,
after him and a stylist named Deontae Nash. Now, of course,
we have the you know, the the freak offs that
that Cassie testified about. But this woman didn't appear too.

(34:51):
And the point of it is that the male sex workers,
oh h, they that that these were orchestrated by Combs
in an illegal way. Now, it's legal for Combs to
orchestrate a filthy, perverted acts. It's legal if they are consenting.

(35:18):
Now is it legal if they paid the male sex worker. No,
but that's a prostitution charge. You paid for prostitution. You're
a john. You know, that's probably a misdemeanor. But they're
going to try to get this guy for a conspiracy.
It's just really hard to do that. The prosecution's strategies

(35:42):
to present evidence that demonstrates a pattern of abuse and
control showing that Combs leveraged his power, wealth, and network
to exploit and traffic individuals, trying to establish that his
business empire was used to facilitate and conceal what are
criminal activities, making it a criminal enterprise. Now, let's go

(36:03):
back to that sentence. His empire was used to facilitate
and conceal criminal activities, which would be you know, forcing
people to have sex. That's criminal activity. And if he
and then they could go like, well, if he used
his you know, organization, and they were all other people
who are in on it, and we could get him.
The defense, on the other hand, has conceded that Combs

(36:25):
may have had a violent outburst now and then, but
argues that these were personal issues. Yeah, domestic violence, so
bring him down on that, and not part of a
broader criminal enterprise or a sex trafficking scheme. You don't
want to be convicted of a sex trafficking scheme, Sam,
It doesn't look good on a young man's resume. They
contend that the relationships were consensual and the kinky sex

(36:48):
was a private lifestyle, not illegal coercion or trafficking. Now
to Sam, this guy, you know, obviously he's creep and
he was only interested in pleasures of the flesh and luxuries,
and there's no humility here and he's not a role model.

(37:11):
But do you think it's just slam dunk for them
to well, obviously it's not slam dunk, But I mean,
do you think do you think that's a wise strategy
to try to get him from conspiracy?

Speaker 2 (37:24):
When you mentioned that this was a Rico case, I'm like,
now you're more or less trying to thread a needle
with this. It's not a slam dunk. You're trying to,
you know, throw a magic Johnson bullet pass through people's
legs to get that to its target. If you're going
to try to get that's a hard one to do
that one. I feel like you could get him on
a million other charges he may slip with some by

(37:49):
just it feels like there's more room for attorney error
and trying to prove a rico case.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, well they might. They might convict him, but there
will be the appeal will will be uh deadly for
the case because there's just so much being thrown at him.
So and then maybe they make a settlement. But when
we come back, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna go
line by line what the prosecution needs to prove to

(38:19):
get this conspiracy charged to stick Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood.
Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood, by Hollywood. You mean for
a bank two hours of the business, end of show business.
We've got one more hour here, right, Sam, Yep? All right,
We're back to Sean Diddy Combs. Uh, this is why

(38:40):
I'm I I hear you know the news. I look
at the headlines and everything is like, we're gonna build
up this guy and he's gonna go. He's he's he's doomed.
But I'm saying, maybe doomed in by a lower court,
but not doomed. It's just too hard to do these
kinds of They tried, and people try to make a

(39:01):
name for themselves by trying to throw everything out of God.
I mean, who who can defend Sean Combs for his
perverted lifestyle. You can't, So then people jump on it,
and I got no None of my constituents are gonna
go against me for going after Shawn Combs, but I'm

(39:25):
going to get a bunch of Brownie points for it.
But there's no downside, so they go after him, and
to me, his activity is gross. This man needs to
find the Lord. I'll tell you that right now. He
needs to find the Lord. Well, think about it. I mean,
we laugh, but it's Sunday, so.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I'm laughing because I'm not even sure the Lord could
help him at this point.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Well, the Lord could help him. The Lord is mercy
is infinite, so he if he was instead of pursuing
pleasures of the flesh, pursued the friendship with the Lord
Sean did he Combs would not be in jail because

(40:10):
he would not he would treat people with more charity. Now,
of course, people who have pursuing a friendship with the
Lord sometimes fall and they commit sins, but in general,
like for Catholics, at least they have confession, they get back,
they get back up again, and they don't they don't

(40:32):
even have sex outside of their marriage. How could he
have a sex trafficking thing? If he was, if he
would have just gone a different path, so and I
assume it wouldn't be as exciting for him, and but
it just it's weird how these Yeah, it's the pleasures
of the flesh is what we're looking at here. And

(40:53):
he's in a lot of trouble. However, can they can
did he? Is he a racketeer? Does he have a
conspiracy to have a sex trafficking scheme? And and and
can uh.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Does he have like a sex traffic ring? Does he
have a circle of people that are going around procuring
procuring other people and trafficing the uh, traveling them across
state lines.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
They're making it look like I think that's the sensational
part they're making it look like he has that, but
they're but what they're doing, they're going to dissect it
and say, Okay, there were two people here that helped
him get this one prostitute over here, or get moved
somebody around for illegal activity, which is non consensual sex.
If he can if he we saw him beat the girl,

(41:41):
so we know he's he's a brute. But the non
consensual sex rape, if he was doing using his business
to cover up rapes commit rapes, then yeah. But so
here's what. Here's what you have to prove for a
racketeering conspiracy. There has to be an existence of an enterprise.

(42:03):
The prosecution must show that Combs and his associates operate
operated as an organized criminal group. Comb's enterprise, that's what
they call it. In the case, this enterprise is alleged
to have used his business like bad Boy Entertainment, all
those businesses to facilitate and cover up criminal activities.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
So is it just using the influence that he has
as the head of bad Boy Entertainment? Is that What
they're basically saying is no.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
No, Yeah, that's this is different. There has to be
there's there's they have to have more than that. Okay,
they have to have people that are that are that
are doing this in the and it is I think
you need it to be like a policy like ordered
from the top or a repeated pattern. Uh. It has

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to affect interstate commerce. The enterprise's activities must have affected
interstate or foreign commerce. They have to bring people across
state lines. Once you fly a hook to you know,
New York, I think you've satisfied that.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Well, I mean he does that also mean like, you know,
having one of his buddies drive over to Jersey to
pick up a girl.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
They'll throw that in there. And this is how they
fatten up the charges with this kind of thing. And
then they have to he has to be a member
of this organization. It has to be a pattern of
racketeering activity. Combs has to agree to participate in the
enterprise's affairs through a pattern. This means proving that he

(43:30):
or members of the enterprise committed at least two predicate
acts of specific illegal activities. Okay, so this is probably
the hardest. You got to have two members of his
his enterprise have to commit Okay, listen, oh, that he

(43:51):
or members of his thing have to have committed two
acts of a specific legal activity. That would include sam
sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, arson because there was a bombing.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Oh the kid cutting into.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Bribery, drug distribution, obstruction of justice, using your wealth and
influence to silence victims.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
That's something that I believe there was reports of him
doing that.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah so if they can, yeah so, But as I
read this list, that's just you know, standard operating procedure
for any.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Record I need two of those.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Any record label, you know, just trying to get ahead
is doing at least you know, five out of seven
of these. Yeah so you know, if so they got
to get at least two of these two only two? Yeah, okay,
maybe that's pretty good. And then they have to Combs
have to agreed that someone not necessarily him directly, would
commit at least two of these acts. He had to

(44:51):
intend that this would happen. He can't just have a
party and then it happened. He had to intend, he
was like ordering it. This is this is the policy.
The core of the conspiracy charge is the agreement, not
necessarily direct participation in every act, but the agreement that
it would happen. Okay, sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion.

(45:14):
This is another thing that they need. They need to
prove that one as one of the charges that he recruited, enticed,
and harbored, transported, provided, obtained and maintained a personal a
person for commercial sex acts.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Okay, implies exchange of something of value for a sex act.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah, recruited. If he recruited these that male prostitute then,
and that seems like they are. That guy's testifying saying, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
That base seems covered.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah, okay, force threats, fraud or coersion. Crucially, the prosecution
must prove that this was done using force, threats, fraud,
or coercion. This is a central point of contention, as
the defense argues relationships were consensual, while the prosecution aims
to show victims were coerced or controlled through violence, intimidation, drugs,

(46:05):
financial dependence, or threats. To have to listen to one
of Sam's radio parody.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Songs, that would be a life and luxury in comparison
to what was going on here. They were influenced by violence, intimidation, drugs,
financial dependency. That's where influence definitely plays a role. But yeah,
he's also drugging them to keep them active. In what

(46:31):
they're doing. And at what point, I mean, if somebody
is high on whatever, do they lose the ability to
give consent.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah, these are what they call are called issues for
the trier of fact. So the jury will look at
these and see and that's going to be a long,
long process to go over all these elements for the
crimes and see if they were satisfied. It has to
be for this sex trafficking charge has to be interstate
or international people around across state lines or internationally. And

(47:04):
the indictment specifies, uh specifies allegations of manipulating women into
particularly participating in freak offs. Okay, these are elaborately planned
and filmed sex parties, sometimes involving male sex workers and
using violence, drugs, or blackmail to ensure compliance the other
with some blackmail things in there some of the testimony.

(47:27):
And then transportation to engage in prostitution. That's another one
of the charges that he's been charged with hit with here.
We need to know that Combs knowingly transported individuals across
state or national borders and the intent was for prostitution,
all right, So that's a lot to get So it

(47:48):
could be you know, you could have split decision on
some of the charges, like innocent on some guilty on others.
But it's a lot of work add for these prosecutors
and a lot of work for us in the radio show,
because I've got to take a break now and check
with the traffic, and we will come back with the
Revenge of Smoky Robinson right after this on KiB eleven

(48:11):
fifty Joe Ascalante Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you
mean Burbank, All right, we reported to you a couple
of weeks ago that Smokey Robinson was hit with a
pretty nasty lawsuit saying that he was sexually assaulting is

(48:42):
housekeepers basically, and he denied it, and now his file,
this is what often happens, filed a five hundred million
defamation lawsuit against the accusers. Now if if if you
file a lawsuit against someone, sam uh, and you're poor,

(49:07):
but you get the lawsuit going and the other person's rich,
does it seem unfair that they could just bury you
with it five hundred million dollars a deformation lawsuit. And
I guess the idea is go away, yeah, correct, go away?

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah. It seems like that's a way to stonewall any
attempts they're trying to file a lawsuit because you're just
gonna get buried in legal costs.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yes, and usually there's I forgot the name of the doctrine,
but it's a doctrine like if you're if you're filing
something and you believe something happened, and you put it
in the in the court case, in the pleadings, you
have a right to do that without someone coming back
say that's deformation. Now, if you go out on the
street and do interviews and say smoking Robinson rape me,

(49:55):
that is and defamation if it is not true, because
rape makes people spit on the ground. It's so uh
repugnant and it hurts reputations.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
It's odious.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
It's odious. Yeah, and you cannot say that if it's
not true. If it's true, you can say it now
if you think it's kind of true, but it's like
what it's like it was in that like kind of
rapey area, and you file a lawsuit, you could conceivably
say I think it was rape what he did to me,

(50:28):
and then he's gonna But since it's in a pleading,
your your First Amendment rights are protected now. He he
he says it's not rape. So he files a five
hundred million dollars deformation suit against you, and then you're
I mean, if you're poor, you're you're you're hodido. But

(50:48):
that's I think. I think in this case you can
use the the old doctrine of I'm not forgoting, but
where you file the the motion to say that I
have a right, I have a First Amendment right, and

(51:11):
then you go to the court and they say, this
guy's infringing on my right, my free speech rights, and
he's trying to do it to prevent me from asserting
my rights in a trial. Then they have a special
hearing before the case starts, and this might happen here
where they're going to throw it into a side hearing

(51:32):
and say, is this person trying to use the courts
and use this giant lawsuit to suppress the alleged rape
victims right to bring her case and to use the
public process. Is it a strategic lawsuit against public participation?
In other words, a slap anti slap lawsuit. So that's

(51:57):
what the anti slap motion are four. So so she
can file this now because he he's he's saying you
say I raped you. I say it's defamation, five hundred
million dollars lawsuit on you. Then she says, and he says,
this is extortion. That's another one. That's that's not that's
not good either. You you're you're committing extortion, you're lying.

(52:21):
And so now they get to go back and go, okay,
is that what this is? So an anti slap motion
I think is coming in this case, and if and
if he wins, if if he loses, if Smokey loses
the anti slap motion, he has to pay the law,
the legal bills of the housekeepers because they shouldn't have

(52:44):
had to do that. He shouldn't have done it, They
shouldn't have to do that. However, the court could say, well,
I don't see a lot of evidence here that anybody
was assaulted, so I think these people just made it
up or it's and they have not enough evidence, so
we're gonna have to go to court and find out.
So that means you lose your anti slap motion, you're

(53:04):
paying for your own fees, and you're and you're going forward.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
So expect anti slapsuit coming up.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Based I think. So yeah, all right, now this is fascinating.
Who else is is accused? Of rape and sexual assault
in Holly.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I mean, seriously, flavor of the week.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Oh my gosh, Well, this one's kind of an old one,
Russell Brand. This is the new part is he pleaded
not guilty to the charges of rape and sexual assault
in a London court in front of a bunch of
men wearing powdered wigs. Really, yeah, that was Friday. Brand
appeared in the Southwark Crown Court where he denied five charges,

(53:48):
including two counts of rape, two counts of sexy assault
and one count of indecent assault. It sounds like a
lesser charge.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I'm I don't want to minimize any of these charges.
These are all dastardly things that he's being accused of,
and if they are true then he should definitely be punished.
I just think it's kind of silly that the like
the the performative traditional steps that judges need to take
to show everybody that they're superior. Yeah, the powdered wigs.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Oh yeah, oh you're you're back on the powdered wigs.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
I'm still stuck on the powdered Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
You want. Let me tell you something about the court
The court is, doesn't it is designed to show the
power of the state. Yeah, for sure, people should have
be impressed by the power of the state because the
power state is looking after your justice.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
But isn't the power of the state enough to get people?
Do you need to have all the performative like dressing
up thing, the powdered wigs. Why at this point wean
that's not your hair?

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Sam, You're just you're Are you a communist?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
No, I'm just confused.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Are you or how have you ever been affiliated with
the Communist Party?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
No? No, I have no problems with whatever laws they push,
whatever laws of the country wants to have, they can have.
I just was that's the the wig, that's not your hair.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
I think I'd enjoy the wig because one day we
would go like, remember then they used to wear wigs.
The wigs were cool. Have you seen the hair on
some of these people. We don't want to know what
their hair really looks.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Like, what we might be doing ourselves a favor with that.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
You're right, okay. So these charges relate to alleged offenses
against four different women, said to have occurred between nineteen
ninety nine and two thousand and five in both London
and Boonemouth. I don't know what that is. Brand. He
turns fifty next week, Happy birthday. Did not speak to
reporters outside the courtroom, arriving in dark sunglasses and a

(55:47):
suit jacket and clutching a prayer book. He only spoke
in court to confirm his name and enter is not
guilty plea for each charge. The court appearance follows an
investigation that began in September of twenty twenty three, sparked
by a joint media expose. I think here's as what
this is what. Brand has consistently denied all allegations, stating

(56:11):
that his past sexual relationships were always consensual, and a
trial is set for June third, twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Though a year. Yeah, really, what's.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Going to hang over his head for a year?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Why can't Why do we have to wait so long?
What procedural things are happening between now and then that
are so.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Because like usually it's just rich people are suing each
other and clogging up the courts. That's my that's my guess.
But this what I would say here, you have to
be suspect of this one because this a joint media expose.
So that is people out to get this man and
why are they. I mean, this is nineteen ninety nine

(56:55):
to two thousand and five, they dug this, this, that's
twenty twenty five, twenty six years ago. This is and
then it comes out in twenty twenty three, and this
is about the time he's getting notoriety for what Sam movies?
What's he most famous for now, Russell Brant.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Oh, this case actually.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Changing his political views. He was a lefty and he
turned into a conservative, and.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
He and a Christian and he's definitely jumped into the.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Religious Yes, so now we have to we have to
put we have to bring him down. So I don't
have a lot of faith in in this one, but
they're just trying to ruin him because of his beliefs.
I think it's possible, So you be you gotta be skeptical. Well,
we'll find out. It will all bear out. Joe Sclante
Live from Hollywood's Joe Scolante Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood,

(57:53):
You mean Burbank. Hey, guess who's out of jail?

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Oh? God, there's some the answers.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
I who Hannah Gutiez read. Oh.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
I thought you were saying, like, did he somehow magically
got out somehow?

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yeah, you heard it here.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Folks heard it here first.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
And then you know that's also another interesting like why
is that guy? Why can't he just pay bail and
go like like other people and and be out.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Does he have a bail set?

Speaker 1 (58:25):
No, he won't. They're not allowing him bail. He's in.
He's in uh jail. But the reason why they're saying
is because he their fear that he intimidates witnesses. If
he was out, he'd be running knocking on doors to
every witness they'd have no pretty which happens. They have
these they have these cases, They build up these cases,
and pretty soon, one by one the witnesses go away.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Do you think he also might be a flight risk?

Speaker 1 (58:49):
No, okay, I don't because she can't hide. Only people
that can hide are people who are you know, don't
seek attention. So he would have to be you know,
even Obama. Not Obama, but was the other guy's name
bin Laden? I mean, he couldn't hide.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
True, they knew where he was.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
I think that's one of those conspiracies where they kind
of knew where he was the whole time.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
People say potentially, maybe I don't know. People say we
don't know these things.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
So Hanna gutiedis Read, the armor convicted of involuntary manslaughter
and the fatal shooting on the set of the film Rust,
which we covered here on the show extensively, has been
released Friday night. She got out of prison after serving
nearly thirteen months of her eighteen month sentence.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Eh.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
I think that's probably enough. Her early release is attributed
to good behavior sam okay, and credit for time served
before the sentencing Okay. Gutieredis Read was sentenced in April
of twenty twenty four her role in the death of
cinematographer Halnia Hutchins, who was fatally shot by a prop
gun fired by popular actor Alec Baldwin in twenty twenty one.

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Upon her release, Reid will be under parole supervision until
May twenty third of twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Six, so a full year of parole.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Yeah. And the conditions of her parole include electronic monitoring
that'd be an ankle bracelet, mental health assessments for free,
being barred from owning firearms that's rough, and obtaining work
within forty five days, and not as an armorer on

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a film. She has been ordered to report to her
parole office in Bullhead City, Arizona. Not being able to
own a firearm has got to be devastating for her.
That seems like that was her life. She was an armorer,
it's all she You know, she knew a lot about guns,
but she I think she knew a lot about partying. Also.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Now, people who are armorers on sets? Are they people
that are, like you know, from so call or where
the production is from, where they local to that area.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Usually whoever you can get it has a decent resume
and is affordable, that's what you get.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Well, I'm asking because the the parole office she has
to report to is in Bullhead City, Arizona. If she
didn't already live there, I feel like that's punishment enough.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Yeah, it's all over the place. I think it was
like a New Mexico trial or something. Yeah, so she
might It's probably like it's probably where she lives, because
you have to have a parole officer near where the
person lives, because otherwise they'd have to get on a
plane to go somewhere else, and then they would never
he'd lose track of them. But wow, And as I've
mentioned here before, I was the armorer on the series

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I did about Ancient Aliens, not Ancient Aliens, Alien Abductions
with Abby Horniseck, which is still visible on Fox Nation.
You can still see that, and My Monsters Across America
also still on Fox Nation. They're the best shows on
Fox Nations. So make sure you go see them. And
guess what Fox Nation is only like two ninety nine

(01:02:19):
a month now, nice, you could buy it, you like,
there's there's nobody that can't afford Fox Nation.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
If only just to watch your shows.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Yeah, that's what people should be doing, you know why,
because they're all really good. Yeah, they're all really really
When I say good, they're really really good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Now when you talk about armorers, how deep of an
armory do you need? Because I'm picturing you as an
armorer with like a full suit of armor, no, or
or not even a full suit of armor, like you know,
a sword at least.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I just take the gun, say hey, we're gonna be
using a gun in this next scene. Everybody gather around
here who would like to look and watch me prove
that it is empty. Then I do a little see
everyone look here, anyone want to look in the most
people just say I'm good. Yeah, But whoever's like maybe
in the line of fire might go, you know, let

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me take a second look at that. Yeah, and then
that's all you do. I mean, it should be easy.
But these guys were partying on the set and they
had live AMMO. They were like, oh, let's do some
target practice and then I'll switch out these real bullets
for fake bullets when it comes time to aim the
gun at the camera. And who's behind the camera, the cinematographer.

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You see those those shots of like a gun pointed
right at you know, the camera, and then it's very
effective for the viewer of the movie or the TV show.
And you I always assume that there's like kind of
a remote camera that someone's not behind that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
You would hope that some like they would take those
extra steps just in case.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
But you know, but it's a cheap movie and they're
trying to save money everywhere because movies are expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Well this was a movie that became infinitely more expensive
because of their hubris.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
But they made the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Yeah, yeah, they did, They sure did.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
And there and they made the girl that died. They
made her husband the executive producer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
It's the least they could do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
And the director was also hit Joel Susan let's not remember,
let's not forget about him. He was sent to the
hospital and was later released. And then uh, you know,
they went after Alec Baldwin, as we know, and then
then pretty soon she they dropped the charges on him

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because they were they were they were. It was classic,
like the p did anything. That's why I'm so cynical
about these things. They went after him, they they they
cut corners trying to nail Alec Baldwin. People wanted to
nail Alec Baldwin. Why because he's in He's a loud
mouthed political ideologue and he has but he has a
right to do that. You know, you can't go after
him for that. But I think these people are like,

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let's burn this guy. I'll put this guy in jail,
and people are gonna buy me beers in this town forever.
I don't want to say that was their motive, but
you know, they really went after him, and they piled
on tooth and then someone finally said, you know what,
you got to just drop this. Let the guy go.
But prosecutors also alleged that Hannah Gutietas had been drinking

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heavily and smoking marijuana cigarettes in the evening after the
production wrapped. Hmmm. She was acquitted of a second charge
of evidence tampering, which stemmed from allegations that she handed
off her drugs to another person the day of the shooting. Hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
There's a lot of issues. There's a lot of issues there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
All right, I got some more. Let's let's just let's
just get rid of her. We'redumb with it. I got
another one. PBS has filed a lawsuit against the President
of our country, Donald Trump. We should all be offended
regarding an executive order that he allegedly slashed federal funds.
And so so you know, this is an ongoing thing forever.

(01:06:22):
PBS is criticized for being biased and being a lefty organization,
and they take federal funds, which I think is they
would argue very small amount of their budget. And but people,
but that's what Trump wrot on ran on, why should

(01:06:44):
we be paying for PBS. They don't like you, They
hate you, And he's probably right. They do hate you.
If you vote for Donald Trump, they hate you. So
he slashed their the money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Big bird hates you, Kermit, the frog hates you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
It's rough, you know, Oscar.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
The Grouch is not well, he actually likes you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Yeah, it's you're right up his olley. Yeah uh so yeah,
So I mean to me, this is like that guy
is that has a right to slash budgets and people
voted him into slash budgets and this stuff, and then
someone's got a file lawsuit. If you want to know

(01:07:27):
why court cases take so long, it's this crappole. This
guy's doing his job as the president. If you don't
like it, vote someone new in next time. But if
you're gonna assume him over every single thing he did,
you're gonna clog the courts. So and I see when
it's some things like well he's taking away life saving

(01:07:48):
medication or whatever resources and people are gonna die. But
is anyone gonna die if PBS has to pay for
their own whatever? He No. So this is the here's
some mornings.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Don't they do? Like chare it? Like you know the
we need money, send us, send us your money.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Oh yeah, I get a tope.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Yeah you got like the Yannie video Live from the Acropolis.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Oh yeah, zam Fear and his pan flute.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Yeah, hey underground low key, he's like his music. People
don't realize that that's him, zam Fear, Master of the
pan Flute. Yeah, because still's oddly relevant today. You will,
you'll hear it almost on a daily basis. You just
don't realize.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I mean, that's the way he he operated like low key.
That's why people love zam.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Fear, underground Goat of the pan Flute.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Yeah, the goat. Uh. Jennifer aniston stalker has been declared
unfit to stand trial. How would you like to have
a stalker that is so crazy you can't even prosecute him.
His name is Jimmy Wayne car While he's accused of
stalking Jennifer Aniston and crashing his car through her gate.

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He's been declared unfit to stand trial. Are you outraged
by that? Sam?

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
No, It's hard to be outraged by things I could
see coming.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
I know, if you're stalking someone, you're kind of you're nuts.
Now let's take her to break, take a break, we
could come back. We're gonna do a deep dive into
the Ah Sharp that's this guy's name, Shannon Sharp. Shannon
Sharp and his efforts to shake this this rape allegation,

(01:09:39):
another rape, another alleged rapist on Live from Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Joe, He's loyal. You don't want money. He does it
all for you and he knows.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Ascalante live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank. Uh, Okay,
we talked today. The common theme is the pantheon of
alleged rapist industry rapists. I guess, I mean it didn't really,
it wasn't planned. And then the horrible things that Pee

(01:10:39):
Wee Hermann was accused of that were politically seemed to
be politically motivated. Uh. But you know, Pee Wee, if
you watch the documentary, has a good, a really healthy
attitude on all the things that happened to him. He had,
you know, the ups and downs, reaching the pinnacle, reaching

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the bottom. But no matter what happens to you, you
can come back from it. M take. Kevin Spacey just
got done directing his first feature film in twenty years,
a supernatural thriller titled Holigards. Spacey also stars in the

(01:11:27):
movie alongside Dolph Lungren.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Tyrese Gibson, Wow, and you're gonna go I'm gonna get
another whow from you. Eric Roberts, Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Yeah, I mean seriously, the late eighties are calling and
asking for relevance.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
The film, shot in Mexico with a ten million dollar budget,
is now in post production, and a trailer was reportedly
screened at the con Film Festival in a private hotel room.
It's being positioned at a hotel room at the Majestic,
at the bathroom and the third floor of the Majestic

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right on the beach there. It's being positioned as the
start of a potential franchised Holiguards. Well, and that's an
original you know what, someone made an original movie Hollyguards
that we don't know what it means. It's h O
l I g U A R d S. We don't
know what it means. But it's a potential franchise and

(01:12:30):
directed by Kevin Spacey Doulph Langer. And I'm like, interesting, Yeah,
are there any people under a hundred in this movie?

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Ten million dollar budget? That means that, I mean, if enough,
that's enough to make money or make a movie. Apparently
shot in Mexico, but it was screened in cann It's
might actually be bits there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
When they say screen franchise, when they say screened, eye,
you know, this could be like, hey, I rant it
out of theater over there. I know, it's like a
peep show place. But you know, they cleaned it up
and they're gon, we're gonna pass out these flyers and
get people to come and look at it, see if
we can get a sale. That's what they're doing. In
con they're trying to sell it. So first of all,
it has to be sold. But our final industry rapist

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our alleged rapist, I should say, is a gentleman who
Sam is familiar with, because Sam listens to sports and
I like sports. I just don't listen to sports or
watch any sports analysis. I just watched the games, and
if I want analysis, I listened to the guy behind
me at the game, guys and know it all? Do

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you know him?

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
I don't know him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
The guy behind me, No, I know. There's when I
went what is he behind YouTube?

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
No, he was next to me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Actually, oh you have I know it all? Next to you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Oh yeah, he was doing play by play the whole time.
And when he wasn't doing play by play, he was
trying to get everybody in the crowd to do the wave.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
You're in the wrong section, okay, the okay. So Shannon
Sharp's a fifty million dollar rape lawsuit and now we're
going to have the we have the release of some
explicit texts. That is kind of new this week because
this has been going on for a while. But anyway,

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Shannon Sharp is like a fort a sports sports guy,
analyst and an NFL Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Yeah, one of the best of all time. Had this position.
Him and his brother Sterling and Shannon Sharp some of
the best pairs of hands in football.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Now now he's going to be remembered for this because
there's an alleged rape and sexual assault by a woman
identified as Jane Doe. The lawsuit claims a two year
rocky consensual relationship that included manipulation, abuse, and non con
sexual acts non unsensual acts that with specific alledged instants

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occurring in the late twenty twenty four in early twenty
twenty five. At least, this is not like you know
from two thousand and two thousand and five. So something
bad happened she reported it. Sharp vehemently denied all allegations,
calling the lawsuit an extortion attempt. In response, his legal
team has released numerous explicit text messages. So what they
did said, look at all these messages of her getting

(01:15:27):
horny with Shannon Sharp, and wanted to hook up with them,
and his lawyers say those were all before the unconsensual acts.
So it gets at some point he crossed the line,
and then she said, I'm suing you for you know,
assaulting me. Then he offered her, He said, I didn't

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do any of this, but that a smith guy says
and other people ten million dollar settlement he offered her.
He offered her ten million dollars to go away and
stop this. Some would say that's a lot of money
for something you didn't do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
I mean, that's a hell of an apology. Yeah, sort
of kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
But still he hasn't had his day in court. But
since she she rejected it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
She said no to ten million dollars settlement.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
She rejected it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Is she expecting to get more?

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Well, Cassandra of Ventura got twenty million from p Diddy?

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Was that a settlement or did that? Did that go
to full trial?

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
That was a settlement.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Okay, yeah, so she was. She's probably adjusting for inflation.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
We're just saying, like, who do you think I am?
Cassandra of adventure A gets twenty million? Do you offer me
ten million?

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
That's disgusting. Who do you think well, he's not really
P Diddy either. I mean, I'm sure he makes some money,
but I don't he probably well he's got more money
than P Diddy now maybe, but maybe not after this happens.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Either way, he's in a lot of trouble because there
was audio that was released from it a few weeks
ago of the conversations that they were having and he
was being more than aggressive verbally with her.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Yeah, so it was worth ten million to get her
to go away. So now we are having a trial.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Wow. Yeah, so this is gonna be one of those
really salacious full trial things, unless that they decide, like
he decides that I need to offer more money.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Maybe or well to me if he did if he didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Do it, then have it go to trial and let
it bear out and then he can get exonerated, have
his name cleared.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Yeah, but I think it's this trial. I mean, it
looks for ten million dollars. The trial was going to
be bad.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
It was worth ten million dollars to have it not
be aired in public.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Yeah. Remember you're looking to settle. It's really you kind
of lose the the image of your doing this specifically
because you didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
He's also separately involved in a defamation lawsuit with fellow
Pro Hall famer Brett Farr. Yeah, so it's pretty ugly
for Shannon Sharp. I'm going to say he might need
the Lord too. I can say all rapists, all rapists

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need the Lord. Ever your last one of them? Sam,
all right, this is for all the grads, my nephew Steve,
my niece Ittie Biddy, Elaine Nasser, and all the other
graduation parties. I didn't go to August Freeze coming up
next Monday. Got any graduation shout out?

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Not yet?

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
I got three or so. My daughter graduates.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
All right, until next week to us go out to
live from Hollywood