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October 5, 2025 • 80 mins
Joe Escalante' weekly exploration into the business end of showbiz. This week: Joe brags about managing the hottest band in the country, the latest numbers from the Box Office (One Battle After Another is worth your time and money), and streaming classic movies on YouTube. Also, celebs behaving badly... Diddy is going to prison for four years (pending appeal). Baldoni vs Lively is the story that will never end. And comedians got a huge bag after telling jokes in Saudi Arabia. Joe talks about the dangers of taking stands against nations as an entertainer.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And now it's time for Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood.
If by Hollywood you mean Burbie across the street promo
meaners and it's at that serves beer.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
All right, good evening, America. This is two hours of
the business, end of show business. We do it every
Sunday on k EIB eleven fifty on your AM dial.
Maybe you're listening on a podcast, but if you're driving around, congratulations,
you're in the right place. There's nothing else on this
is it? Producer Sam is here.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yes, we are not preempted.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, it's very good during NFL not to be preempted
and or by a game or by the evil Matt
money Smith and his silly sports talk that he does.
So yeah, we're good.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I was just talking with him, really, yeah, what's he
up to? Just he was at he was doing the
play by play on the Chargers game.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Not stealing souls.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
No, no, he uh he that's the one time where
he spends resting. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay, y, yes, I mean if anyone's ever met him,
you know you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
He is a villain, straight up villain.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, when will he learn no one can foil him? Okay,
uh so, uh right, Elon Musk, this week I got
a lot of stuff. Elon Musk is calling for a
Netflix boycott. Taylor Swift tops the box office and the
music charts, while Dwayne Johnson has stumbled in the courts.

(01:55):
Did he is headed to prison? And Kim Kardashian claims
she is not next? And did USC's Mark Sanchez just
pull USC's second OJ we'll talk about that. And who's
topping the the Billboards alternative charts? Who's number week? Who's

(02:16):
number one this week? Sam?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Who do you think I'm going to take a stab
at this one? If you will? No pun intended, all
things considered with Mark Sanchez.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
You don't get stabby?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, no, sorry, I'm gonna have to say Sublime.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Sublime, you are correct for the fourth week in a row.
They are the top of the charts, number one on Billboard,
and it is now official that they have eclipsed the
original Sublime.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Their biggest hit was one What I Got and it
was hit top the charts for three weeks. This is
four weeks.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
This is phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
It is it is a phenom So let's celebrate. For
people who don't know, I'm the manager of that man,
and everything's going great.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
What's it like to manage the band with the number
one song on the Alternative Billboard charts?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, the phone rings more, and you know, things, things
get better, things get easier. And there's a lot of
people that said this couldn't happen. They are naysayers, haters,
not too many haters, but they're just like, yeah, out
of your mind. If you think you can you can
get these guys to stay together and behave and and
and way. Oh you're gonna go in the studio and

(03:31):
record a song.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, good thing for them that you are out of
your mind.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, definitely out of my mind. I gave up my
lucrative career as a television showrunner and paper coll later
mm hmm, you heard that. Everybody heard that. I brought
my own state pless because I don't trust corporate radio
on a Sunday, Okay, So yeah, congratulations to me and anyway, yeah,

(04:03):
but who can who can imagine that some some guys
can go like, well, I mean that was thirty years ago,
but I think I think I think we could do
it again. I think we could. You know, let's just
go and write a song and write a bunch of
songs and then we'll start releasing them and see.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
How it goes.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh oh wait, it's bigger than it ever was Holy Cow,
bigger than their nine million selling pass that they had. Yes,
So the next time you can see Sublime if you're listening,
is at the Mission Bay Fest in San Diego on
October the eighteenth. And it is a phenomenon, and that one.

(04:39):
It's one of those things where the VIPs like it's
either the VIPs are sold out or the general missions
are sold out, or one of them or not the other.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
But you should.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
You gotta get on, step up. What have you gotta do?
You got to you gotta see this band. You see
him in San Diego. It's just kind of like their hometown,
even though they it's Long Beach, but it's kind of
San Diego. Also, you gotta gotta come and see Sublime.
You'll be sorry.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
And really, when going into it, there was a lot
of like sentimental ground you know, like a ground swell
for them, just because you know, the son of the
original singer was taken over the reins of everything. And
if it was just a sentimental thing, then you would
not be seeing them charting.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
No, the church, the charts don't care about that.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
And that's phenomenal that they It means that the quality
is there and kicking it's that's outstanding. Man. Congrats.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh yeah, thank you, and let's see and you know,
you know, just it's just great. Everything's great. I could
go on and on and on, but I'm just gonna
just leave it there. And let's talk about Elon Musk
calling for a Netflix boycott. When I tell you what
it's for, you probably cancel your Netflix right now. He

(05:48):
told us two hundred plus million followers, of which I
am one. But I don't go on Twitter. Yeah, because
I or X. I don't go on there because I
think I can keep less rail and poisoning, poisonous internet
stuff out of my brain if I don't go there.
But I do have an account every time. Every once
in a while, you know, when you go on to Twitter,

(06:08):
if you're like me, it's like someone sends you something
a link and they go, oh, that's a funny video
and it ends up and it's and it's an X thing,
so you click, you end up on X and then
you go, yeah, I do have an account, and then
something comes on and you go he look. I follow
Elon Musk. I drive one of his cars, or actually
it's one of his cars drives me. So he says,

(06:36):
for the health of your kids, he wants you to
cancel the streaming service over a children's cartoon, namely, I
think it's a Transformers that Oh no, it's called this
show is called dead End Paranormal Park, which has been
off the air since twenty twenty three. But I guess
he's still calling from Boyco. I don't know what's going

(06:58):
on with this guy, but I sometimes my new stories
are wrong because sometimes I get them from chat GBT,
which is a big liar. As of now, Netflix has
not publicly responded, but he says it's a it has
a it's pushing a transgender woke agenda, and he wants
you to cancel. Well. Netflix stock did dip the days

(07:21):
following Musk's commentary, feeling speculation that has called might influence
investor sentiment. Uh. I think people that have Netflix know
how to navigate around things that they don't want their
kids to see. And you know, I don't. I don't
engage in boycotts because you know, like the next day

(07:41):
Netflix will start like a Christian you know, series that
will blow your mind at something, and then you're sitting
there going, oh, man, I boycotted them. Now I can't
watch the Christian program that's probably amazing. So you just
kind of kind of you can't back yourself into a
corner like that. I don't think so I don't do it.
I think you'd probably like me, Sam.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Probably yeah, No, I'll stick through it. And a lot
of times when you hear like, oh you need to
boycott this, it's it's pretty performative.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah. And I also think that if you if there's
a transgender problem on Netflix, it's probably left over from
a previous administration and in a cycle because just the
way the country is now, I don't think people want
that kind of controversy in the building. They're not put
but but a couple of years ago they were like,

(08:32):
it is our duty to push this transgender agenda, and
now I don't think people are doing it. So if
it's on there, it's just gonna go away, you know.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
And if you don't like it, you can always just
watch Dave Chappelle make jokes about it. True, it's on.
It's all on there. They're trying to keep back to
every audience out there. And guess what if it's not
on Netflix, jump on a VPN hop into another country.
Chances are it is on Netflix somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah. Now, also, you raise your kids instead of depending
on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, seriously, Yeah, you don't have to. That's not you
gotta raise your kids. You don't let them watch Netflix
willy nilly. You tell them what to watch. You say,
you're a kid, You're living under my roof, and you'll
watch what I tell you to watch. So that's why
I don't have kids. But if I did, they'd be
watching Leave It to Beavern reruns twenty four hours a day,

(09:27):
and they'd be great kids. Okay, Uh, let's go to
the box office, Sam, do we have a box office theme?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
No, Okay, that's cool. I'm okay this weekend at the
US box office. As I said before, it's Taylor Swift
once again just rewriting show business, and like she did
with the music industry, she just she's unstoppable. She has
a limited film called the Official Release Party of a
Show Girl. I don't know what that means. It's taking

(09:59):
up a bunch of theaters. Though, took the top spot
with thirty three million in ticket sales. Now, what I
don't know is if those are only at AMC theaters
because it's an AMC thing. But I'll have an answer
for you after the commercial break, when I complete my research. Now,
the real number one, the real number one, is the

(10:21):
movie One Battle after Another, because that one was number two,
but number one was Taylor Swift movie with a bunch
of little girls. You know, seeing it three times, it
just doesn't count. So the big winner is One Battle
after Another. Directed by Paul Thomas Anderson and featuring Leonardo DiCaprio,

(10:44):
The film grabbed another eleven million, pushing its global total
past one hundred million. And that movie we'll talk about
in a little bit, the The Big Loser Dwayne Johnson
smashing Machine Sam. I mean how I was highly anticipated.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I heard a lot of potential Oscar talk around the rock. Yes,
now you know part in the rhyme. But it from
what I'm gathering, it's like, is it a good performance,
just not so much a great movie?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I think so. It opened in third with only six
million dollars, softer debut than expected, but also especially for
one of Hollywood's biggest names.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, not as hard as the rock should come out.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
But a lot of competition. Yeah, competition. You got Leonardo DiCaprio, movie,
Pat Thomas Anderson, and you have Taylor Swift. So you know,
the word of mouth on one battle after another is
so strong that you can't beat it. And then there's

(11:53):
some other stuff down the list like Gabby Stallhouse and
the Conjuring Last Right and Demon Slayer still hanging in there,
and demas Layer is all over Saturday Night Live and
everything and all that stuff. So let's take a break,
check the traffic. Come back. Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. Hi,
Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood, you mean Burdbank

(12:15):
And Okay, enough about that pono and more about me. Sam.
I am the executive producer of a film called I
Was a Teenage Sex Pistol and it is debuting in
London on October twenty third at the Barbican Theater. And

(12:35):
if you're in London, for all my listeners across the Pond,
it's at the It's.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
A big underground podcast scene that really has you at
the pinnacle.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
By the way, it's at the Dock and Roll Film
Festival to be specific. So and I have another film
October nineteenth that I'm also a producer and writer on
called The Harbor Chronicles The Shaping a Legacy, the story
of the longest running surf shop in the history of

(13:08):
the surfing sport, which is still running today on Main
Street in Seal Beach, California. So yeah, I got two
films in festivals right now. So that's pretty cool. But
if you would have told me, you know, like sixteen
year old Joe, that I would be the executive producer
of a sex Pistols documentary based on the memoir of

(13:32):
bass player Glenn matt Locke, I would have said, surely
you're kidding, I should be the executive producer of an
A list blockbuster.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Like I surely should have been managing supply y.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, but it's pretty cool to know sex Pistols, to
know some of them, because to me, you know, they
were just beyond iconic figures as I am I teen
years So it's just it's just wonderful God has blessed
me in many ways.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
When God blessed you with the ability to do all
of this stuff with very limited free time.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, I really don't have any free time, and it
just from the moment I wake up until I go
to bed. I'm doing something for somebody or some project.
I have two probates going on right now. I'm working
on the probate of Shifty shell Shock from crazy Town.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Okay, this is this.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Is like a crazy probate. We've got competing. It's contested,
so I'll fill you more in on that later as
I have it my first hearing next week. Another probate
just someone friend of mine's grandma. I'll just I know
how to do probate. So if someone feels and they
look like they're stuck and no one will take it,

(14:54):
I'm gonna come in and help it. I like to
call myself a hero, Sam, I don't even like that word,
but you know, I'm just are doing.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Do you have an action figure yet?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Well, there's probably an AI one on the online.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Or something we gotta do. There has to be one.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well I don't. I want to play it down, you know,
I know, because I don't want the Congressional Medal of
Freedom or anything like that. I don't get on any
short list. Okay, So I did go see some movies
because I am a hero, and I think all heroes
they don't. They don't all wear capes. Some of them
go to actual movie theaters and pay for tickets to

(15:29):
see movies to keep these theaters open and keep these
kids employed that are that are also heroes working out
these movie theaters.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
It doesn't act of heroism.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
It is now it's let's go through the movies. I
saw Let's Go number one that I saw in the
last since we last met. Uh, A big, bold, beautiful journey.
Have you heard of it?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
No?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Well it's a uh. It's kind of a romantic fantasy
directed by a person with only one name, and that
name is Co gott Nada. Yes, Co go Nada. He's
a Korean chap and he has a couple credits but
nothing you know big. But this is I think his
breakout movie because it stars at Margot Robbie, one of

(16:12):
the greatest actresses of our time and one of the
greatest actors of our time, if not the greatest, Colin Ferrell.
The two characters meet at a wedding and are drawn
together by a magical GPS. Yes it's true, you heard me,
and it leads them through mysterious doors into vivid moments
from their past, explores memory regret, but along with the

(16:34):
possibility of reshaping the future, all told with striking visuals
and a dream like tone. Early reactions praise its beauty
and ambition, though some critics find it uneven in pacing.
Those critics should be stoned to death, because I really
liked this movie, and I enjoyed the pacing. And although
I got a business call in the middle of it,

(16:55):
and I had to I had to go out into
the lobby. So there's part of it I didn't see.
Sometimes that happens. The sublime drummer called me in the
middle of it. I forgot what it was, Just like
I forgot I gotta take this.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
It's like I need a bag of peanut Eminem's.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Now something like it. Sometimes it sticks that it's you
know that simple? Okay. Then I saw the movie Friendship.
This soon's a good one. It's the debut feature from
a director named Andrew Deyong. But he you might recommend.
You might recognize his resume Penn fifteen And do you

(17:30):
remember Penn fifteen?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
No, But I know what that word looks like.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Oh is that what? Yeah? Because it's yeah yeah. So
it's a middle school, like it's a middle school drama
about too like nerds.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
And stuff and I'm still so juvenile.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Pen fifteen and Shrill, the movie about the plus size
girl with an with a big plus sized personality. It
stars Tim Robinson, who's amazing at this guy. NA is
this guy named Craig Waterman and he has a friend
named Paul Rudd who's played by Paul Rudd. And it's
kind of a cross between Chuck and Buck. If you
haven't seen that, you should and I love you man, Okay, okay.

(18:07):
It's like two friends, ones like can't believe he has
a friend. The other guy's like super cool, and it
all goes wrong. All right. I think we got to
break out of here pretty soon, but maybe not just yet.
I think what they're calling it a dark cringe comedy
because he'll just dives so deep into loneliness and cringe
moments when this guy who just you know, doesn't know

(18:29):
how to even have a friend, and then this guy
so cool, he's so cool his new friend that this
is his neighbor. He's in a band. How cool is that?

Speaker 3 (18:39):
That is pretty cool?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's only cool to someone who's not in a band.
If you're sixty two and you're in a band. You're
kind of embarrassed. You don't tell everybody. Okay, let's take
a break and we'll come back. I'll tell you some
other movies, because that's how a lot of movies this week.
What'd you see? We'll get to that too. Joe Scalante
Live from Hollywood. Joe was Glante Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood,

(19:03):
you mean burd Bank. Okay, we got one more movie
that I saw in the theaters at the and I
have an announcement to make about my theater going experience.
On October the first, no October the second, I achieved
platinum status at the Cinema Chain of movie theaters. Thank

(19:28):
you very much. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Do they grave your butt cheeks on a seat?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
No, that's that's that's just silly, Sam.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
This is very serious.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
So this is the earliest I think I've ever made platinum.
But I think they gave me platinum, uh, without earning
it during the COVID. I think they did, like just say,
let's make everybody platinum and get them to come to
the theaters or something like that. Maybe. But then I
then that's when I first realized you could be platinum.

(19:59):
And then I'm then I earned my platinum every year
after that, but this is the first. This is the
earliest I've learned my platinum. And what do you get
from a platinum status, you're asking, Well, let me tell you.
You get two free movies, just two free movies, just
just because you're platinum. And then you get twenty five
percent off at the snack bar. I don't know if

(20:21):
you know about snack bar pricing, Sam, but everything is
twenty five percent higher than it should be. But if
you take twenty five percent off, it's just like going
to seven eleven or a regular place to buy a
pizza and a hot talk. And they have really good
pizza there because they have they have a pizza excellent. Yeah.

(20:43):
So Cinemak is the chain I like, and it's they're
in Huntington Beach where I go. But sometimes I'll go
to other ones in other states and stuff, and you
get a badge for traveling.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Pretty pleased with myself. My wife doesn't know yet, so
don't tell her. She's out of town right now. When
she gets back, I'll tell her now. I also blow
the minds of the kids at snack bar with my
platinum status, and when they scam my thing because they
never meet a platinum person, because who the hell would
be a platinum person.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
They're like, ooh, can I touch you?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, a little bit of that. Okay. The other movie
I saw, one Battle after another from director Paul Thomas Anderson.
He's known for there will be Blood, Phantom Thread, Licorice Pizza.
Here I go, Boogie Knights, Magnolia, I'm going, I'm still going,

(21:39):
punch punch, drunk, love the Master. That was the one
about the scientology guy and inherent Vice that I have
not seen. With Walking Phoenix, I went to a I
once walked past a uber shop that said Joaquin's welcome

(22:02):
like Watkins and then Watkins Welcome, but they had a
picture of waquing feet.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
See I saw one that had Christopher Walkin. Really the
same idea, Yeah, Walkins welcome.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Licorice pizza. As we said, Phantom Thread a great movie.
Now one Battle after another. A lot of people's like,
some people don't like some of his movies. They get
they have really high expectations when a new movie comes
out of his because I think he's the greatest living director.
But I think everybody will be pleased with one Battle
after another. Have you heard of it, Sam, you were anticipating.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
It, Yeah, no, I heard of it. I heard mostly positive.
A couple of people were a little had a couple
of criticisms about it, but the for the most part,
nothing but positive stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I think I gave it four and a half stars
on my Letterboxed account. Now you can follow me on
letterboxed and see what movies I see one. Okay, so
it starts Leonard Leonardo DiCaprio, and Sean Penn. Sean Penn
will likely be nominated for Best Supporting Actor for this role.
He did it. Remember when you saw Tropic Thunder and

(23:15):
they said you never go full retart. Well, he learned
his lesson and he did not go full retard. And
he plays a military colonel. Starts out as a lower rank,
but then by the end of the movie he's a
colonel with the just the weirdest character you've ever seen
in a movie. I mean, he just created a new

(23:36):
one out of he pulled it out of his butt.
DiCaprio plays a guy named Bob. He's a former revolutionary
trying to live off the grid with his daughter Willa,
twelve years after his past life splinters. Bob's nemesis, which
is Sean Penn. He re emerges and Willa disappears, pulling

(23:57):
him back into a dangerous mission. It's kind of an
action movie, a little bit of satire. It's a family
drama because you have the father daughter relationship, but they
really wave in really well, like so it's a really
touching father daughter thing. But at the same time that's
all that he's like an antifa. So he's an antifa
and he blows it and has to go underground, and

(24:20):
they all have to go unto ground. Then they're all
ratting on each other, and so he has to go
into hiding and he's got his daughter, and so they
weave that family drama in and out of the story.
But there's all kinds of action and it's funny. You're
laughing all the time too.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
So excellent.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
My biggest recommendation this week is One Battle after another
and Leonardo DiCaprio just you know, he's always good. Hum Okay.
In the streaming world, we have some news Disney. There's
a weird thing with Disney and Hulu, like why is Disney?
Hulu is Hulu Disney but now they're like really grab

(25:00):
being Hulu and they're and they're gonna take it on
an international thing and they're going to replace there. They
you know, they have their they have this thing called
star TV in the in the in the foreign countries,
and it has secular movies that aren't I mean like
not non Disney movies, and I guess they own it.
But now they're replacing that with Hulu. So Huda's going
to be a worldwide global name, and I think the

(25:21):
Disney Plus is just going to be more expensive and
they're gonna throw Hulu inside of it. Now, this is
what happened to me. This is a little bit weird.
I wanted to get Hulu with no commercials and they
I could, and I always try to sign up and
it wouldn't let me. Like this is years of happened,
like two years. I'm like, wow, it's so stupid. They
won't let me. Then they had the Hulu bundle with
Disney Plus. I let my Disney Plus lapse and then

(25:44):
I got I was like, well, I'm gonnat my Disney
Plus back. Yeah, try a Hulu. They won't let me.
I finally got to the bottom of it after talking
to like, you know, three hundred strangers and uh, they said, well,
I forgot to a smart guy and he goes, you
know what you gotta do. You got to drop your
spot if premium account. You got to cancel it right now.
You got to just get out of it. And when

(26:05):
you get out of your Spotify on October twentieth, that
will end your free Hulu with commercials account that you
have that you got for having a prime premium Spotify account.
Then and only then can we change you to a
commercial free Hulu account and then you can attach that
to your Disney Plus.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
That is some convolution did business that you had to
go through to get that done.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, and it's not done yt because it's not October twentieth.
And my wife is saying, how long you've been working
on this? What's going on much Peter Pan, you know?
So it's weird. Apple TV has renewed Peanuts through twenty thirty.
So that means if you you got to be rich
to watch you're a good man Charlie Brown or Pumpkin

(26:51):
Charlie Brown and Marry Christmas Charlie.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Manner, Thanksgiving Charlie Brown.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Thanks you gotta be rich.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Kwanza Charlie Brown.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
And they have a Kwanza.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
They've got everything at this.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Point, it's so relevant. Okay, yeah, so isn't that weird? Though?
Apple TV Plus it has all the I'm know American Yeah,
I mean I have Apple TV Plus, so I'm not
sweating it too much. But I feel sad for all
the children that don't have Apple TV Plus because Apple

(27:21):
TV Plus is one of the last ones you get,
because you know, no kid is urging you to get
Apple TV Plus. How although they do have, you'll get
a gap in now, so they're really leaning into this
kid's programming. And then I don't know if you know this.
ESPN launched a new service for twenty nine dollars a month.

(27:42):
Oh dear, Yeah, it's got It's a standalone streaming service.
It's got live sports, existing ESPN Plus content and enhanced
app features. Twenty nine months. Who's going to do that?
You know, I'm not doing.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
It at this point. We're just going back to paying
exactly what we were pay well, for sure, we were
doing cable.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Absolutely, you claim complained about it. Yeah, if you complain
about something in show business, they will make it worse.
And then Fox has a new one. I forgot how
much it is it's not as much, but it's called
Fox one and it's it bundles broadcast all their Fox
Broadcast stuff, like so Channel eleven here in Los Angeles,
Fox News all their cable stuff and sports and some

(28:28):
entertainment properties. But I don't I don't see how that one.
It's not compelling either.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, everything is already like accessible online for free.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Well. Another thing is like whatever you're watching in the
news world, Like if you want to watch Fox News
or CNN or it's it's on YouTube later, like the
best doves are. You don't have to sit through everything.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
It's like watching the highlights of a basketball game on ESPN.
You just get what you want in the digestible bite
that you need on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh my god, YouTube thinks if I miss a football game.
I watched the YouTube highlights takes about eleven to fifteen minutes,
and man, you're you're hooked to that thing. You're like, oh,
who's gonna win? You don't know. It's as exciting as
watching a real game. Yeah, and I watching the whole thing.
So that's why YouTube is king. YouTube is now king,

(29:20):
and I am one of its servants.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
I watched the movie Sneakers with Robert Redford free on
YouTube last night.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
It's and I'm talking about Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Great movie, Sidney Potier, dan Ackroyd, Robert Redford, River, Phoenix,
Mary McDonald. Great movie.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well did it have commercials? Do you have the one
with no commercials?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I have?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I have the premium? Yes, yeah, you got it. Yeah,
you got it. That one's you got it. That one's
they got me. Okay, and then we're gonna take a break.
We're gonna we're gonna check the traffic, that kind of stuff,
and then we're going back. We're gonna we got to
deal with it. Puffy Puff Daddy.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Oh, we've been trying to avoid it. Do we have to?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I got Puff Daddy news. I got an exclusive on
Puff Daddy. It's an exclusive. It's my exclusive take on it.
That's what it is shown me for my listeners. All right,
Joe's Galante Live from Hollywood. Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. Sam,
you said you saw some movies this week. You saw
on YouTube? You saw gotcha that Anthony Edwards from nineteen

(30:27):
eighty four.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, the movie about the kid that was a UCLA student,
nerdy guy who went to Europe with his buddy and
ended up hooking up with a Russian spy and coming
back here and having all kinds of high jinks and hilarity.
And the cool part was because I used to live
in Westwood and so they they've featured you know, pretty
popular locations around UCLA and in Westwood, which was really

(30:52):
cool because you got to see what it looked like
in the mid eighties.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, it's always fun. You should have seen it in
the mid seventies. Every Sunday, my dad would take us
out up to la and he pick us up in
Rossmore and he would, you know, to dazzle us. On
the weekends, we'd go to his house and then uh,
we have a big dinner on Saturday, and Sunday we'd

(31:16):
go to LA and and uh either go to Westwood
for a movie, or the Chinese Theater for a movie,
or Chinatown or Alvera Street or this kind of rotated those.
And then I used to get to pick out all
the movies. Nice because I was even though I was

(31:36):
the youngest kid, you know, I was the only one
that care. So uh, yeah, Westwood was so many theaters.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
They have some classic theaters there, like beautiful, beautiful theaters. Yeah,
they do a lot of premieres there.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yes, I think I went to the X Files movie
first X Files movie premiere there. And and When a
Man Loves a Woman with I forgot the name of
that lady. But anyway, what about Falcon and the Snowman
from that era nineteen eighty five?

Speaker 3 (32:12):
I can't remember that one?

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Okay, that one you should if you're watching old, weird
old movies on YouTube, which it seems like that's what
you're doing. Have you been to the theater lately?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
No? I live above one, right, Okay, so you're watching
I'm tragically unhip.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
You're you're watching weird movies in on YouTube. Yeah. Falcon
in the Snowman is another Sean Penn movie. Yeah, okay, okay.
And it is like, as far as anxiety and tension,
I've never seen anything like it. Timothy Hutton Sean Penn

(32:46):
play friends that are living in like Torrents, okay, and
they their dad's or one of their guy's parents works
for like TRW or something, And somehow he gets a
hold of some uh classified information and he decides to
sell it to the Russians.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, And and and it's a true story and it's
not it keeps you on the edge of your seat.
So if you haven't seen Falcon in the Snowman.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Another one I saw, and I looked all over for it,
and yeah, we were saying, like a lot of times,
you'll try to look through all the streaming sites and
do Google searches to try to find it. And I
found Woody Allen's The Sleeper. Oh yeah, and it's such
a good movie. I really people slept on that one.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Pardon the pun, is that that is is so that
when I was a kid, you know, like a big
part of my life was the Woody Allen books, which
are hilarious and Sleeper and Take the Money and Run
and Bananas and this was to me the peak Woody Allen. Yeah,
and he was like everything to me. And his movies

(33:56):
you have, As I grew up, his movies kind of
were growing more grown up movies. So I still like
all of his movies. But my sister had dinner with
him the other day. Really, yeah, so her and that
was you know, just different people were, you know, friends
of friends and stuff, and and then and Woody Allen
was one of them, just like six.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Or eight people. Wow, that was so jealous.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Imagine that can you imagine dinner with Woody Allen? Wow?

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Okay, I would be speechless. I wouldn't know what to say.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, I got it before we go in this hour,
I think we should talk a little bit about uh,
what's his name? The stabby guy?

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Uh? Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanke, Mark Sandwich Sanchez, Mark Sandwich, Sorry,
Mark Mark Sanchez USC former USC quarterback. Uh, former NFL quarterback,
current NFL commentator, Mark Sanchez.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, And so I guess he was in Indianapolis, like
after a game he had commentated on, and it's like
twelve thirty at night and he gets stabbed. Now the
story At first, they're telling us I just got stabbed,
it's no big deal. NFL doesn't have a comment. And
then some of the the someone got a hold of

(35:18):
the police report and it said, you know, he's in
a bar afterwards and he was stabbed, but they arrested him.
So there's a So he's he's been stabbed and he's
been arrested and he's in the hospital. Police report says
the alleged victim informed cops okay, there was a there

(35:42):
was a there was a fight, Okay, okay, So there
was a fight and then so he got arrested and
there's a victim and he's not it. But he got stabbed, yes,
but he's not the victim. He's the victim like OJ.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
But OJ didn't get stab Oh they did.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
He did get cut because there was blood everybody. Yeahl
was everywhere. So what is with USC? I just don't
understand it. And I'm I'm being.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
The University of stabby children. Oh that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
University of stabby children. Excuse me. Now this guy, okay,
so here's what. Here's what the alleged victim says. He
says he was delivering food. So this guy's working. Okay,
Mark Sanchez is out party. This guy's working. And when

(36:34):
the when Mark Sanchez told him he needed to move
his vehicle and couldn't park where he was. You know
how people who deliver food they park wherever they want.
I think part of it is like, look, everybody, I'm
delivering food, give me a frickin' break.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
And he was an old guy too. I think the
delivered sixties.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, he says, I mean, you're delivering food in your sixties,
go ahead and park where you're gonna park. And you know,
so he got mad at him, and he says he
threatened him. Then he followed him and he attacked him,
and he tried to get him off of pepper spray,
which is what I would do. Okay, Okay, I got

(37:12):
pepper spray. I got pepper spray, and I'm going to
go there first before I go to my other weapons.
But it was unsuccessful. So maybe he had a bad
pepper spray. Some people are immune to pepper spray. So
it's like, you got to be ready when you give
pepper spray to somebody that they might just say, okay,
now I'm mad. So you got to have another weapon
if you're fusion pepper spray. This is my advice to

(37:32):
people out in the world. He used pepper spray, have
a backup plan, so the pepper spray will get you
like free and then you won't go to trial for
shooting someone or stabbing someone.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
But it's tickling assault.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
No, that's just silly, okay. So he so then he
had to bring out the knife because this guy was
still coming after him. And but here's what we know.
Mark Sanchez has not told his story yet. Mark sanchez
story could be no, no, no, no, no. He was

(38:07):
chasing me. I was delivering food and he came after me.
I he came after me, and I my pepper spray
didn't work, and then I had to bring out my
knife and I stabbed myself. I don't know, but stabbed
enough to be in the hospital. So evidently it was

(38:27):
a It was a you know, it was a sixty
something year old guy, but he was kind of a
badass because and he was smart too. Pepper spray. I'm
going to get out of this, but if it doesn't work,
I'm gonna get stabby.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
So uh wow.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I mean, you know the the USC quarterbacks, remember the
other one that like ended up in a field somewhere
with naked banging trash cans lids around and stuff. Can
you remember that guy Maranovitch? Yes, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah,
good call.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, no, he had quite a history.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, maybe they can. Maybe there's a celebrity rehab or
something or a house they can all live in. But
OJ passed away, right I think? So yeah, all right, Well, okay,
that idea is not as great as it could have been.
Joe Scante Live from Hollywood continues after these important messages.
Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood by Hollywood. You mean Burbank. This

(39:24):
is two hours of the business end of show business.
We do it every Sunday here on k E I
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(39:50):
the place for you. We're making and breaking careers here
on live from Hollywood. Been doing this? How long I've
been doing this? Coming up on twenty years, Sam.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
That is two decades.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Next year I think will be twenty years nikes. Yeah, okay.
Sean Diddy Combs Okay. He will appeal his federal conviction
and four year prison sentence, his attorneys have told reporters.
The disgraced hip hop mogul, who's fifty five, was sentenced

(40:31):
on Friday, you remember, to four years and two months
in prison and fined five hundred thousand dollars after being
convicted of transporting people across state lines for sex. He
was acquitted to the most serious charges, sex trafficking and racketeering,
where he would have spent over sixty years in sex

(40:53):
traffic school. But he didn't even get convicted of that,
so they're letting him off the hook. And actually it
was like, you know, fifteen years and twenty years for
the sex trafficking and racket turning, so they got he
got out of that, but they did get him for this, Uh,
bringing people Now, I always thought it was like bringing

(41:17):
people across the street for like prostitution, like miners, like
it's like the Man Act that they're convicting him violating,
I think, And these are federal crimes, so the Man
Act crossing state lines with someone for the purpose of
having sex. Now, so I think part of his appeal
is to say, whoa whoa whoa. You people can cross

(41:40):
you can bring people across straight lines for consensual sex.
And so maybe a higher court we'll goal, yeah, what's
what's wrong with that? But these people did say they
were forced to do weird stuff and and he pled
for leniency. Sam did you know that?

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I'm sure he did.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
His lawyers played a video portraying his family, life, career,
and philanthropy philandering what oh no, Sam, philanthropy, philodendron philanthropy,
that's stamp collecting, oh oh okay combs. He his daughters
showed up at federal court on Friday, and his defense attorney,

(42:20):
the fired Mark Agnofilio, said that team plans to file
a notice of appeal in the coming days. But he says,
both the guidelines calculation and the sentence took into account
conduct for which Combs was acquitted by the jury. We
can tend this amounts to legal error. Now that's interesting.
If they allowed stuff in the court that he was

(42:43):
acquitted for and that was used to calculate his sentence,
then you could say that that was a legal error.
So you know, they'll work on it and they'll you know,
they might they might have some luck with that appeal.
They might not. But he has already served a year
behind bars, and I read two different reports. One said

(43:05):
that he get time served, the other one said he didn't.
If he does, he's got to not be out in
three years. Because you know what they don't have in
federal prison system, Sam, what parole?

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Oh they don't.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
They don't have a pearol. When you're done, you're done.
They don't want to talk to you. So, yeah, he
was convicted of flying his girlfriends and a male sex
walka around for drug fueled sexual encounters. Okay, But as
I said, he says it's a consensual but was it really?

(43:40):
So he's in Brooklyn, the Federal Detention Center, and but
as as we go, people are still filing stuff against him.
You got to get out on it now because he's
still got some money.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Just a fresh lawsuit was just filed on Friday. A
man identified as only as John Doe alleged he was
drugged at a twenty fourteen after party hosted in California
by Combs, and he later tested positive for HIV Ooh.
Combs was not accused of assaulting the anonymous man, But
I guess he's creating a hostile environment where he got

(44:18):
that dread of disease. But key witnesses against Combs are
urging the judge to reject leniency because they feel fear
that he will harm them, Like if you testified against him,
he's kind of gangster.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
So yeah, if he goes free, I'm sure there's a
lot of people that'd be a little afraid of that.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, and he will go free. So you got to
get you. Maybe they were hoping you'd be in prison
for life, but three years is like not enough time
to forget. He's not gonna forget you.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Oh No, that's like barely one Olympic cycle.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, it's less than an Olympic cycle. Okay, oh yeah,
four years, but three years if he's got time served,
will be out.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Okay. Do you speaking of bad bad boys? Do you
know a guy named Tyrese Gibson.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
I've heard of him.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yes, Well, he's an actor on the Fast and Furious
franchise and he used to have well, first tell you
what he did and then it'll surprise you. Other parts
of his career. He's been put in jail, booked in
twenty one in jail for what he had four dogs
that went crazy and killed another dog.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Why did did he lose control of his four dogs?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yes? According to court documents, the victim's dog had been
let out in its yard, which was fenced, and was
later found with internal injuries consistent with an attack, and
so he got an animal cruelty charge. I guess there
was that. Yeah, they were let out and they just
he had this guy had an invisible fence. I read

(45:54):
in one report too, like electronic, I guess. And the
guy had four mastiffs and they were just out and
about and they killed, mauled and killed the neighbor's pet
and then they told him, Hey, you got to come
in and we're going to book you, and he wouldn't,
So he was on the lamb for a little bit.
Oh and he grew up right here in watts in

(46:18):
the neighbor in South la and raised by his mother.
And he's the youngest of four children. And appeared in
a Coca Cola ad when he was younger, and that
launched his career. He signed with RCA Records as a
singer in nineteen ninety eight, releasing his debut album, ty Reese,
which went platinum. He had a platinum album, Yeah, Slow Jams.

(46:39):
I listened to it this morning, Slow Jams.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
The Quiet Store.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
So he was in bad Baby Boy, Transformers, Death Race, Legion,
four brothers in now jail.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Maybe they should have considered having a visible fence.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I'd like a visible fence with my dogs.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
I mean the I mean, hear me out. Maybe just
maybe the dogs did not see the invisible fence. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
I guess that maybe the dogs were I mean, four
mastiffs that feel like killing something aren't gonna pay attention
to it.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
And then visible fence.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
That's like Mark Sanchez with the pepper spray it's not
gonna work. It's an animal.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
It's if you're come on, So I a real actual fence.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I just read that in one report. I mean maybe
it's not true, but uh, that's kind of rough. But
if you have four mastiffs, we got massive? Is it?
Big dog?

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Yeah? Oh yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I mean to me, I think there's a disorder there
as it is. It's like, do you have to have
a big, tough dog like you know, my dog was Chewy.
He was just a little Yorky, sweet as he could be,
although he would bite your face off, but it wasn't
an ego thing. I had a little dog, you know,
he's a little dog. Kind of four of them they
were vicious dogs. You have a little Marley marya sweetheart. Well,

(48:02):
people that have these vicious dogs, I think they should
be judged harshly by society.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
But I think the people who train good dogs to
become vicious dogs maybe need to be judged.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yes, I said, I that's true. Yeah, that's kind of
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
I have a talking parrot and he wouldn't hurt anybody.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
He'll trash talk them though.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
He says what you tink you know what, which he
got from a Paul Thomas Anderson movie Liquorice Pizza, What
you tink? And I wish people called our show yeah anymore?
But because I would have lots of trivia of where
where did my bird get his movie quotes?

Speaker 3 (48:47):
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
I would give away lots of tickets.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
We need to get to. Tim Conway Jr. Was on
It was in Licorice Pizza. I wish you have him
on the show.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
He was in Lickers Pizza. What did he do?

Speaker 3 (48:57):
I don't know. I haven't seen it, but he's in
it and he talks about it, and.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Oh, if I was in Liquors Pizza, you would never
hear anything else come out of me. The girl, one
of the highest sisters that's in Liquor's Pizza is also
in One Battle after Another. She is a one of
the Antifa babes and very interesting because it was Antifa

(49:20):
and the one battle after another. I'm getting back to
it here love. For a brief moment, it kind of
showed you what like, you know, these people have heartfelt
beliefs that their Antifa goals need to be achieved and
they're going to achieve a revolution. But it also shows
you the folly of it and how you will lose

(49:43):
your family and it will be a wasted life. So
my message for the Antifa people are is, you know,
get a job, join a country club, have some kids.
You can be better off, all right. Leave the revolution
to someone else in another day, another like maybe another generation,
maybe down the road a little bit.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Um.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Let's take a break. Check the traffic. Coming back with
Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Joe A.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Scalante Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood, you mean Burbank? Okay,
Kim Kardashian, she's in the news. Can you believe it?
Kim Kardashian and Christina are filing a defamation suit. Okay, Now,

(50:31):
what's the standard for defamation suit? You have to say
something that is makes people spit on the ground and
is untrue. But if you're celebrity, you else. If the
person that that is the subject of the defamation, the
defamed person is a celebrity and they want to sue over,
they have to prove that the defamer was acting with malice,

(50:56):
meaning they knew it wasn't true, they said it any more,
and they had a purpose to say it to harm you.
They knew it would harm you. That's it, like you
get you you would, you would, you got to go
this extra length, you gotta show like, well, no, they
said it because they had a diabolical purpose, like they
were trying to make me lose my job or something

(51:18):
like that or get me assassinated, because otherwise with celebrities,
it's you know, people know that people use hyperbole, hyperbole
when talking about celebrities. They know the tabloids aren't necessarily true.
So the damages are not that worth going over the court.

(51:40):
I think believes it's not worth trying to figure out
the damages of what happens when a celebrity, as someone says, oh,
you suck, and then you have proved I do not suck,
and it's and it's a terrible thing to say. And
then the judge is like, yeah, I be your celebrity
and no one cares. You know, people say you suck
all the time. You're a bomb. You know, you're a bum.
It's why it's defamatory to be a bum. You don't work,

(52:04):
you're a drain on society.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
What is the line that we have, like as far
as like a lot of things make you spit on
the ground, do you have to like judge distance on
how far someone is spitting with some of this stuff,
Like if it's just like a little tiny dribble, is
it worth going.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
After any spit any spit it all?

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, any spit it all.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Like a long range lugie would probably be one that
you want.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
To to kind of spit. It just makes you spit.
Oh you're a pedophile, see that.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
That would be a long range loogie right there, one
that would make you like that is horrible.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Okay. So Kim Kardashian got deefamed. This is part Stris
send effect. I think in part it's just not gonna
She's not gonna win. But I think they're doing it
to prove another point to she's shoeing the guy who

(53:04):
was the guy in the sex tape from her initial
j J, Ray ray J. Yeah, you're right, yeah, ray
J ray J from the how do you know the
guy in the sex tape with Kim Kardashian.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Because it's the Kim Kardashian sex tape.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Jeez. Okay, so ray J, they're showing him. They're like
back in it with this guy. Uh now, what what
what he's did that was so horrible? Is he was
been running around saying things like, uh, that the two

(53:40):
are involved in an illegal criminal enterprise, Christian Er and
Kim Kardashian and we're about to get under federal indictment. Okay,
so think about this? Is this making people spit on
the ground.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Kind of I'm loading up.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
It's a thirteen page lawsuit filed in LA Superior Court
on Wednesday, and it comes after the songwriter Ray J
whose real name is ray Norwood Junior, told viewers of
a live stream last week that he is working with
prosecutors on a Rico case involving the famous women. So
now he's kind of raising the bar because he's it's

(54:20):
now and when I'm reading this, it's getting above the
level of like, oh, those those bitches are going to jail.
You can say that and no one's gonna believe that,
and that would not be defamatory in a legal sense.
But if he's saying, like, well, they're involved in a
legal criminal enterprise, it's going to go under federal indictment,
which means it's serious. And then he says he has
personal knowledge of it because he's working with the prosecutors

(54:41):
on a Rico case. So now it's like, it's so
bad that you know, and I have personal knowledge of it,
So it's not a rumor or anything. He's asserting it
as fact. So if it's not fact, it's not true,
and it is definitely defamatory. So now we got to

(55:01):
get to the other question in the deformation case, is
is it since they are celebrities, has the malice case
been met?

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Mmm?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Me?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
I mean if it wasn't for the Kardashians and all
of them, ray J wouldn't necessarily be ray J.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Yeah, that is that's that's true. And and they're, you know,
they are saying that he's trying to just like he
never got over not being in their lives, and so
they he just continues to try to get in their lives,
and so he's kind of baiting them. But they're by
they're they're they're taking the bait, you know, when they
could say, oh, don't just forget about that guy. Forget

(55:48):
But I think what they're thinking is, I think we
have a good one here, and we could ruin him
even if we don't win. We have so much money,
he has so much less. Let's ruin him and just
wipe the courtroom floor with his face. And he will
leave us alone, and he will he will go away
and he will finally pay for trying to ruin our

(56:11):
reputations to but it would damage their reputations. And he's
saying he's official knowledge of it, and he's working with
the prosecutor. So I think that brings it into the
malice thing like this is so true that I'm working
with with people. I mean, he's asserting these facts.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Did he did he instigate the instigation investigation or is
it something that investigators approached him.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Well, it seems he's been on a couple sources and
he's saying things like it's like three different ones the
ones I said. And he's saying like like if I
if you told me the Kardashians were being charged for racketeering,
I might believe it that one's not that bad. And
he's talking about this isn't a documentary about Sean. Did

(56:57):
he comes so he beat his RICO charge? And then
ray J has been heard saying if they were there,
they I would believe it if they got charged. But
then he also says, I'm working on a charge I have.
I have absolute knowledge of it. So it makes people
believe that it's true and so but the the the

(57:20):
I think it would go before a jury to decide
is this malice? Is is he doing this to harm them?
Or is he just is this more showbized talk? Is
this Hollywood gossip? So he's gonna have to say, oh, no,
this is just Hollywood gossip. You know, we kid each other.
But maybe there is a federal investigation against them. So, uh,

(57:47):
that's pretty bad. I have another defamation case whence kind
of stupid. It's it goes back to the Blake Lively
Justin Baldini, a lawsuit that's going back and forth, back
and forth. Justin Baldini Baldoni sued The New York Times
for saying bad things about him during that whole lawsuit

(58:08):
going back and forth, and they they won that and
the judge said that it lacked any basis in fact
and it's meritless. And so now they might be able
to go back and use the anti slap statute and
make him pay for all their attorney's fees in that case,

(58:28):
but it was in that case there is no they
found no malice. New York Times is just reporting things
that were already being said in court and things that
are said in court. You can report on those that's
not defamation. So Baldoni lost on that thing, and he's

(58:49):
got one hundred and fifty thousand dollars of their legal
fees probably bleed. All right, take a break, come back
with more. Joe Scalante live from Hollywood. Joe Scalante Live
from Hollywood, Lucky, are you driving around listening to this?
This is two hours of the business end of show business.
Do it every Sunday Here and kaeib eleven fifty on

(59:09):
your AM dial. And we're getting into the digital age
of the show. Sam a digital section in the docket.
How about this YouTube is rolling out a new experiment
with AI hosts that supplied trivia, context and commentary while

(59:33):
you listen. They're coming for us, Sam. It's like pop
up video just on YouTube. Yeah, it's audio pop up
video features being tested through YouTube Labs, where just Sounds Sinister,
the platform's early stage innovation hub. It's open to all users,

(59:58):
though for now only limited number of US participants will
gain access. Those AI hosts will build on YouTube's YouTube
Music's prior forays into conversational AI, like the tool introduced
in July that let's users generate custom radio stations based
on descriptions. YouTube says the initiative is part of a
broader push blending more AI smarts into search, video summaries,

(01:00:22):
creator tools, and content experiences across the platform. Is are
we in the creepy stage yet?

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Or we get there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
If it's like English English accent, I would want mine
to have an English accent, just like that was the
Buzzcocks with the hit all Gasma Adict stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
It always sounds way more sophisticated with the British accent.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I mean to us, it does to them it's probably,
I mean they have their really low class ones like
alig ones stuff. But do you you have a problem
with this personally? Yeah, not really.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I think it's it. It just adds another element of
interaction to make it so people stay hooked in.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah, I guess it does. And when you listen to
most radio DJs talking in between songs, it's it's it's
not that great. Yes, so unless when I was doing it,
it was great.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
See you had informative stuff to say in between the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Songs, and I would like to lie to and just
give a whole back, just backsell every last five songs.
But songs I didn't play like you Know side Too
from Led Zeppelin four and I just you know a
lot of stuff. But anyway, you know, I guess if

(01:01:53):
this is where we're going, this is where we're going.
And but people are going to be mad. A lot
of people don't like this. Have you used YouTube music before?

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
I have?

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Some people say it's their preferred they're using They're quitting
Spotify and using YouTube music because if you own, if
you have the YouTube Premium, you can use YouTube music,
which theoretically is identical to Spotify. But you wouldn't have to.
If you're paying eleven dollars a month for Spotify, you

(01:02:27):
could get rid of that because you're already you already
have YouTube music. That's what some of my colleagues in
the industry are doing. Just give me a little tip.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
I need to actually pay more attention to the YouTube
music side. I usually just played the videos that have
the songs on them from.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
YouTube, and that's fine. That's one thing. But YouTube music
is a Spotify.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Okay, So it's just a music devoted app.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Yeah, it's just Spotify. It just happens to say YouTube
music on it. It has playlists and so you can
migrate your playlist over cool. So it's got playlists, it's
theoretically has all the the features, but you won't have
any commercials in it. Are you paying for YouTube for
premium Spotify?

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
I was, and then I canceled that one. That one,
I'm very certain I can out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Well, now you could adopt YouTube music and you would
have a Spotify without paying for it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
That sounds great because I already have the YouTube premium,
so that yeah, it would fit perfectly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
So it's it takes them getting used to and then
there's like a third party that puts it on your computer,
but on the app on the phone is pretty much
the same. And uh, it's a little bit weird. I
mean it's it's a weird thing because you got so
used to Spotify. I did in the last you know
a few years. But I'm i am oh I had
to get rid of my my it's called the the

(01:03:53):
Spotify anyway, so I could get Hulu.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, you're having your issues with Hulu anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
So yeah, so they me to cancel it, and I'm like,
I gotta I gotta tell you, I might not come
back if this is your solution. I might not come
back like, well you got to do it. Okay, I
did it crazy? Okay, you remember Electronic Arts.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Yeah, the video game company. I can go down my
list of my laundry lists of feelings for them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Wow, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Well, they've they started off back in the eighties as
a really cool company. They like had some cool ips
and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Like they're they like name some there that the uh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
They've had, Well, they had a NFL the Madden series.
That's their biggest ip, right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
What about the one where you're driving around the car
running over prostitutes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
That is not them? Okay, that's grand theft auto. But
EA has built a reputation of being not very good
with customer service and not and trying to exploit gamers
financially with micro transactions.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Oh, Nicolin Diming, Yeah, well they I I think things
got so bad they had to be sold. Yeah, so
they just sold to They basically went private and so
they could reorganize and and they it's like a fifty
five billion dollar deal. But that's kind of boring. But

(01:05:16):
I remember they were keen.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Yeah, they had back in the early two thousands, they
had a department called EA Big which they actually did
a great job of innovating in video games.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
They did.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
They took risks, they took chances, and then somewhere along
the line they lost that edge and they stopped taking
chances and they became more reactive to what the industry
was doing instead of trying to innovate.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Well, we'll see what happens to them.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Yeah, they got bought out by a Saudi company.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Well pretty soon. Oh what do you think about those
those comics now that we're talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Oh, yeah, that's one that that has been kind of
the the big point of discussion amongst comedians. The people
who went and took the bag and the people who
stayed on this side, either because they didn't get invited, yeah,
and were annoyed about it, or the people who were
invited and actually turned it down. I know Shane Gillis
was invited and he turned it down. He stuck to principle,

(01:06:14):
which I found refreshing nowadays.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Unless he just couldn't make it because he had a conflict,
maybe maybe no, But I can see people, you know,
just saying I'm not going to do that. It's a
slippery slip. You go down that, you go down that
road and then I mean, it's just like Arabian nights.
You're just there and then they say, come and have
some tea with me, and then I'm going to tell
you what you have to do next, and then pretty
soon you're slave well.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
And if you notice what a lot of the comedians
who are coming back from there are doing, they're basically
just running cover for the Saudi government. They're saying whatever
they need to say in order to you know, like, hey,
we had a great time. This is nothing like what
you guys think about, and all that stuff. They said
a bunch of stuff, except for the things that were
being critical of the Saudi government and the royals, which

(01:07:00):
is what most people are. That's how you identify the
Saudi's is by the government, the royals and all of
that stuff. And so you had comedians like Mark Maron
out here and Shane Gillis and a bunch of people
who are throwing a lot of shade at you know,
Dave Chappelle and Bill Burr and a bunch of other
people that you know, when you see how much money

(01:07:21):
they were being offered, I know I would have a
hard time turning that down. But there's all of the
people who went already had their own bags to begin with,
so they just took an extra bag and are basically
just trying to blow it off and make it seem
like it wasn't a big deal, right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I think Bill Burr said, Hey, these are people just
like us. They want to hear comedy. Yeah, and so
you're gonna you know, if you don't give them comedy,
they might make their own and then be worse.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
So, well, have you ever heard of an Arabic joke?
I've heard a couple there. Some of them are okay,
some of them are you know, you need context.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Okay, Well, people have been going to Saudi Arabia, like
rock bands and entertainers for years. You know they do it.
To me, it's just like, if you've got fans there
and there's money there, go perform there. And if you
have because if you go down that road where you're

(01:08:25):
you're now you've got to criticize every government and what
they're doing. What about the United fricking States. You can
get people to come on and say, how dare you
perform in the United States? They here's here's my nine
to eleven conspiracy, Here's my Iraq war, here's my h

(01:08:47):
like you know, experiments and LSD on soldiers. You know,
you go through the whole litany of of of our
past sins and then you can't perform in the United States.
So where can you perform? Now, everybody's just going to Finland,
Sun City, Sun City. There's another place. Yeah, remember, yeah,
that place? Yeah. I mean, so I would say, it's

(01:09:11):
it's a tough call, it's a personal call. But you really, now,
the people who are criticizing him are kind of open
for Like if I was one of the people that
they were criticizing for doing this, I would really keep
an eye on where those other people are going and
when they go to some place, I would be ready

(01:09:31):
with a list of sins of that government too.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Yeah. Well, and the big issue I think a lot
of people had was like stuff like with Bill Burr,
who in the past has criticized been highly critical of
performers going out to Saudi Arabia performing for the royals.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
It's the and then he went and performed for the
royals exactly, it's the it's just plain old fashioned hipocrisy, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
I think that's where a lot of people are getting from.
Like with Chappelle, I think people kind of Understan and
accepted the fact that he's just gonna chase the bag.
He's gonna be the money. Yeah, he doesn't care. He
he knows that money is money and it's gonna be
you know too well. You can get a boatload of
money from people in Saudi Arabia and if you said
a good impression, they're gonna keep paying you to go

(01:10:17):
back and do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Do they like reggae, punk, rock and roll? Is what
I want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
That a lot of the people out there, for what
I understand, went to school out here and in England,
so they are they have been exposed to all of
this stuff. So if if you think that, you know,
Sublime might be able to get themselves a pretty you know,
decent gig out there and pulling some money for a
couple hours of performing, you might be right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
You play that game, you play, you play a dangerous game,
my friends. Yeah, because the United States could be could
be considered by many people the worst of them all.
I'm not one of those people. I'm a patriot, as
you know. But you could be radicalized by podcasts in
about three weeks to believe this is the worst place

(01:11:10):
on Earth, and you shouldn't perform comedy here. So those
are those people. Those are the people. Every controversial thing
that happens, that everybody's shooting someone or or starting a
riot somewhere has a grievance, and that grievance is against
this country. So what are you gonna do and murders?

(01:11:33):
You think our CIA doesn't go CIA doesn't go and
find people and kill them. What about these drug dealers
in the boats? Yeah, those guys. There's like a nineteen
year old kid piloting a boat going all right, I'm
gonna get five hundred dollars for this. It sucks, but
I'm gonna do it. And it's happened like three times

(01:11:57):
now or something like that. So I mean, these are
h you can these are people on their way with stuff,
on their way to poison our kids and everything. I'll
get it, but you know, it's could be judged very
harshly by some people. So what are you going to do?
You know, not perform in the United States? Bear think

(01:12:18):
about it, and then I mean, these boats are coming
here and it's a lot of it is like you
bomb these things and then the people that are getting
on the next boat go I'm not getting on it
because they're bombing these things. So maybe you make a dent,
maybe it's preventative, but it's still on that edge of

(01:12:40):
you know, assassination or no Fourth Amendment, no right to
a trial.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
You're just.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Because someone said you're an enemy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Come back.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
It could be legal, and it could be the greatest
thing we've ever done and make everybody safe, and it's
going to save hundreds of thousands of lives and bring
joy to the two Americans. Or it could be wrong.
I'm not smart enough to know. So that's why I say,
you got to be very careful if you're telling people
they can't go perform in Saudi Arabia, Very very careful.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
The end.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Okay, let's take a break, check the traffic. We'll come
right back more. Joe Scolante lie from Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Joe Ascalante, he's myloya.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
You don't want pni.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
He does it all for you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
And you know, Joe Scalante lie from Hollywood. If by
Hollywood you mean Burbank. We're talking about performing in Saudi Arabia.
And first of all, Saudi Arabia is is like a
just a pleasure palace of luxury and futuristic experiences. They've

(01:14:05):
got artificial snow capped mountains, they've got artificial lakes, they've
got artificial deserts, they've got artificial everything, everything that you
might need for your pleasure. My son, my friend, that's

(01:14:25):
what they say, my friend everything. And we're talking about
all those comedians that are given such a hard time
to the performers. What the heck was that? But I

(01:14:46):
have here a list of people who have performed in
uh Saudi, and I think some of them might surprise you. Sam.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Okay, I'm, I'm My interest is peak.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Okay, what about Jennifer Lopez?

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
What about Jennifer Lopez? Has she performed in Saudi Arabia?

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Yes? Okay, so that maybe you're thinking, like, well, she's
kind of been around a long time. Maybe she did
it before it was people decided it wasn't fashionable. How
about Selena Gomez?

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Really?

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah, that was surprising, Yeah for sure? Yes. How about
Black Eyed Peas, Chris Brown, Eminem Herbie Hancock At American Treasure,
Janet Jackson, John Legend, Lauren Hill, Mariah Carey Marshmallow, Metallica

(01:15:45):
made history as the first hard rock band to perform
at the SoundStorm Festival in twenty twenty three. Now we
have Nelly for l Williams, and let's take a look
at oh comedians, Ozzie's I'm sorry okay, he's beloved, Bill Burg,
Dave Chappelle, Pete Davidson, Fluffy, Kevin Hart, Louis c k,

(01:16:09):
Chris Tucker, and a woman, a woman, Whitney Cummings. Wow,
a woman was allowed. They're so enlightened over there. So
I don't know, maybe uh Gypsy Kings? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Are they American?

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
No, I'm my list as Americans and Europeans as I'm
going through here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Very good band.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Oh yeah. Now there's a festival in Saudi Arabia that's
coming up in December. Because of December, it's probably hot
as hell over there, so the festival season slows down here.
But Americans can go there and just keep it going.
Who do they got post Malone?

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Post Malone come up this year at Calvin Harris and
Benson Boone. They are all playing at the Storm Festival in
Saudi Arabia. They got money to spend out there, for sure.
Like the number the amounts that the comedians and the
musicians I've been seeing that have been coming home with
just for performing one set is like seven figures. Really yeah,

(01:17:20):
I know, I know, Sublime could potentially be a pretty
decent draw. We can get seven figures in the United States,
So you know, I think you know, it goes to
the band. The band weighs it. You want to do this,
here's the price, here's what you're getting. Who wants to

(01:17:41):
do it? And then they have to do some soul searching.
But my point, I stand by my point from the
last segment, which is if you get into the business
where you have to judge every single country before you
perform them by the standard of what they're doing. You

(01:18:01):
might be an American that's been exposed to Fox News
and CNN and you're getting one side of everything, and
then if you went to Saudi Arabia, you would get
a side of the United States that would horrify, uh
you if you were on their side, and they'd say,
why are you going to the United States? And they
did a B, C, D, and E. So you're better
off not get As a performer. This is an advice

(01:18:21):
show in many ways. As a performer, you're better off
getting involved in that. Just like just you just you
got to keep your head down and go and if
someone says you you are bad, just keep going, you know,
unless it's like you know, it's up to you. If
you don't find that offensive, you got to you you,
and you know you might find more things in your

(01:18:42):
own country offensive. Then what are you gonna do? You
gonna stay home? You hiding. I can't perform anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
I'm gonna go to the Maldives and uh and and
that's all the only pace.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Off play sounds lovely out there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
The Vatican, just a Vatican. I'm gonna I can only
play the Vatican from now on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Pop Leo is the only audience that you're willing to
accept an audience with Poplio.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Not a lot of money out there, not gonna pay me.
It's so weird to watch Publio because he speaks English
and they ask him questions in English and he answers
in English, and.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
I'm like, in a Chicago accent, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Just like, that's that was too plus, that was too straightforward.
I need some Italian to interpret it and then tell
me something that I so, I'm just wondering, like I
don't think he said that. I really, I don't think
that's what he meant to say. But but man, you're
getting it right in your face now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Did he just say go cups?

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
He might. He appeared at the Cubs game on a
jumbo tron.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
He's he's an American guy. He loves his baseball, he
loves his home teams. You know you can't hate on that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Well, yeah, no one's hating on that. But it is weird.
Did he speaks He speaks such good English.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Yeah, I'm not used to that, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Well are you used to just a taste of the
greatest song ever written?

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
You can never get too used to this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
All right, Let's see next week. I'll be around week
after that. I'll be around. I'm around for a long
time now. But I hope we don't get preempted. But
if not, you always can find us on the iHeartRadio
app iHeart whatever it's called. And we'll see you next week.
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