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June 25, 2025 • 22 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, you guys, it is War the Roses time
helping people out, all right, Yes, through their relationships. War
the Roses. If you think your significant other is cheating,
call us we get some answers. We're in Weather's Field
this morning and Marissa is on the launch she thinks
her husband is cheating. Good morning, Marissa, Good morning guys.
Welcome to the show. I hope we can help you

(00:20):
out on War of the Roses.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay, So your husband's name is Logan. Tell me why
you think Logan is cheating.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
For the last couple of weeks, he's just I don't know,
he's just been acting weird and my got was just
kind of telling me something was going on. He's been
nervous and acting odd and like hiding his phone like
when we're on the couch, like if he sees me glance,
he just kind of flips it over and like we'll
go like respond somewhere else. And I don't know, the

(00:52):
red flag to me usual behavior.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
So Marissa, that is suspect for me too. If you're
with a man or anybody and and they get a
text message or a phone call and they kind of
like are secretive with it. But that's a red flag.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, absolutely, especially like we're married, Like that's never been
a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I mean, you women in your phones, it's like, oh
my god, it's like I gotta have access to his phone.
I got to know where he is. It's like, our
phone is our phone. It's not meant for you to
be looking at Well.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Don't be jerky, and we won't have to look at
your phone, right exactly? How about that? All right? So
why don't you tell us? So it's not so we's
secretive with the phone, but is that just it just
the phone's edge.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, so I took it a step further, and when
he was in the shower the other day, I was like,
you know, I could probably just like put this to
rest and just like see what's going on. And I
looked through his text and I saw a text confirmation
for a couple of massage. And we have never had
a couple of massage before. I received no coupled massage,

(01:56):
and I kind of freaked out, and I I asked
him about it as calmly as I could, and he
said that they probably had the wrong number.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
So a suspicious, suspicious text message is the biggest thing
with a couple's massage. Yeah, all right, that's enough for me.
All right, And you didn't get a couple's massage, so
that's enough for me. So listen. I'm gonna put you
on hold, Marissa. We're gonna call up Logan. We're gonna
offer them a dozen roses. We're gonna see we can
get some information out of them, and you're gonna be
listening at any point if you want to jump in

(02:27):
on the conversation. Feel free.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Had to take my jack it off. Sorry, guys, Hey,
do what you gotta do. It's hot here. It is
a little toast. You're not gonna live. Hello.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Hi, good morning. Is Logan there speaking Logan? This is
Eric from Flowers Express. How are you this morning?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'm going pretty good.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Oh that's great to hear. I was just shooting you.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Got to let you know that you actually won a
dozen roses in our online weekly contest.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, it's a really cool deal. It's a dozen long
stem roses. We'll hook you up with the card and
all that jazz. Basically, here's the deal, though, we're not
gonna send the flowers to you. We're actually gonna send
the flowers to someone on your behalf, sort of like
a pay forward promotion.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Oh, this is kind of the perfect timing because my
anniversary is actually just coming up.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
All right, Okay, we can do that for a little
anniversary package there.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
So here's the deal.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
So you want to send these to someone for your anniversary?

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Correct? Girlfriend?

Speaker 5 (03:38):
No, I want to send to my wife.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
You want to send them to your wife? Okay, So
here's the deal, Logan.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I can throw in a extra dozen roses and maybe
send them to someone else.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Maybe, if you know what I mean, Oh, like my mom.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
No, I was thinking more like someone maybe, like maybe,
and maybe you're in a relationship with or some A
lot of times some of the guys that we call
will send flowers like a wife or girlfriend, and then
they'll also send them to their side piece as well.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Nah, I pretty much got my wife, my mom, and
my daughter.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Pretty much that three ladies in my life.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Those are the only three ladies in your life. You
can't think of anyone else you'd want to send them to.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
No, Okay, all.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Right, I'm gonna jump in. I can't take any more Walmart, Jeff, listen, Logan,
it is Courtney. Savannah's on the line. The floorist is
Walmart Jeff. We're calling from Kiss ninety five to seven.
You're on the radio.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Wait, look, why am I on the radio?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, you're on something called War of the Roses where
if you think your significant other is cheating, we try
to get to the bottom of it. So your wife
called us, Marissa. Marissa is on the line. Marissa, do
you want to tell Logan why you think you might
have somebody on the side.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, it's like what I confronted you about the other day.
I saw that text confirmation for a couple of and
then I never got a couple of massage, so I
just assumed that it's for somebody else.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Logan, Why do you have to ruin everything? You know?
Next week is our anniversary obviously for us what our
anniversary is next week?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Marissa? I suck whoes? Oh? So can I just get
in here, Logan? Is that why you've been secretive? Like basically, Marissa,
though you've been secretive with your phone lately, you know,
like not wanting to answer it or text. Have you
been doing? Is that why?

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:43):
I planned a really romantic get away for our anniversary,
and I was playing aloof but I can't seem to,
you know, do anything special for my wife.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I spun out again, didn't I?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, can I just say I'm sorry, Logan. I will say, Marissa,
super nice guy. Walmart was trying to figure out like you. Indeed,
yeah you were you and your daughter and his mom
and that's it. It was actually really the best. He's
the best. All right. This is what I want to

(06:21):
do because I feel bad, Logan, because I know you're
feeling like a little like defeated right now. I will
offer counseling. I'll talk to you guys off there if
you want it, just in case. Like I'm just wondering
if that would help you guys out. Like so Marissa's
not checking the phone and being worried all the time.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
We should probably send them two roses.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Exactly, Jeff, We're gonna we're definitely gonna do that as well.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Okay, okays, all right, and.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Listen, Marissa. After that couple's massage, I'll call us and
tell us if it actually happened and how it was.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, yeah, I will if my phone is anywhere near me.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Okay, all right, Logan, Marissa, I'm glad Marissa you got
your answers logan sound like a great guy. Thank you
all right, guys, thanks for being on War of the Roses.
Starting to hear some rumors about next year's Super Bowl
halftime show performer, and the rumor going around is jay
Z's taken the stage past, but it's only like a

(07:13):
matter of time. Doesn't he own it?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Doesn't he own like he produces a yes, so he
picks out the lineup.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
For I'm surprised it took him this long to pick
himself out.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
I mean, can you name three jay Z songs?

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Uh? Empire, state of Mind? Wait, what's I got problem?

Speaker 4 (07:30):
That's too and cly Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
So if you that long to come up with three songs,
you probably shouldn't be at the halftime Now.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I'm just wondering if he's gonna bring Miss Cowboy Carter
up with him. Probably gonna happen, So that's the big
rumor going around. Katie Perry and Orlando Bloom have reportedly
called it quits. Yesterday. I told you that their love
was on the rocks because she sold that house she
was going to move into with Orlando. She rented it anyway,
calling it quits. They've been together from a decade, and

(07:57):
it's just in time for what's shaping up to be
the wedding of the Jeff Bezo and his girlfriend Lauren
are getting married in Venice, Italy, and I'm hearing Orlando's
already there by himself and he plans on hitting the
town with Leo DiCaprio. Oh no, people, of all people.
The full story is on my blog. And finally, Taylor
Swift shocked her fans with a surprise performance in Nashville.

(08:20):
She was with her boyfriend Travis Kelsey for his Tight
Ends and Friends concert when she jumped on stage and
performed shaken Off. That's actually mostly a girl in the crowd,
I mean singing, but the crowd when crazy. Taylor says

(08:42):
she was up at the bar having a cocktail with
Travis and thought, how can we get the crowd amped up?
The crowd isn't very excited tonight. When the guy next
to her said, do you want to take my guitar?
And she said yeah. She just grabbed some dude's guitar
that was sitting at the bar and she jumped on
stage and played and the crowd went wow wild. You
got to see the video and more in all of
these stories. Kiss ninety five seven dot com slash Courtney.

(09:02):
I got good news for Savannah. It is Kiss ninety
five seven Courtney and Kiss in the morning. Listen to this.
You probably already know, of course you do. David Beckman
is Beckham is a beekeeper. Did you know that I did?
He like makes honey and everything. Yeah. Well, he just
launched a new snack line called be Up, a honey
powered fruit snack line, non gmo, gluten free made with

(09:23):
real honey, and they're being sold at Target stores. So
you can't.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
I'm gonna get you some. I mean, David Beckham himself
is and he's a meal. He is a meal, Savannah,
But you're a David thinks so well.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
I mean, he's a little thin in his voices, a
little high, I ask me.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I agree, jealous, Jeff No, I agree on those two things.
His voice is a little high, and he's a little
thin for.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
My life, but he's very good looking, guys, David Beckham,
come on, he needs a little more of a dad
bo all right.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
His voice will go lower if he's got a dad bod. Anyway,
David Beckham be Up. All his snacks are being sold
at Target stores. That's my good news. What do you have, Savannah?
Oh my gosh. So there is a super viral summer.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
Skincare product that's all over TikTok and you can get
it at Target snail musin.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
What oh this? Remember the snail.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Goo that I us? Oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
If there's a fluid that comes out of an animal
her face, it's that crazy.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
But no, it's it's a quote on a bumper sticker.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, yeah, that is true. Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
Anyways, you can get this product at Target for just
fifteen dollars. It's the Boma Hydrating milky toner. People are
loving it for like the hydration and making the skin
look super glowy. It's going to soothe your skin as
well as restore its natural barrier.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Okay, well, I'll check it out when I'm done with
my snail musin. I think they call it Walmart, Jeff,
what are you for? Good news?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
This past weekend, a veteran led men's league hockey team
actually skated for twenty two hours to raise awareness for
veteran suicide. Love that pretty cool costs. They also raised
a lot of money as well. The men's league team
I played on could not play for twenty two hours.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
And you could barely play for an hour.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
The Growlers they could drink for twenty two hours straight.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
That's something they could do.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Did you have you and the Growlers ever thought of
doing something for charity?

Speaker 3 (11:12):
We never, Yeah, we had nothing ever really took off though, Okay,
nothing ever really left the locker room.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Maybe during the new season we could come up with something.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Well, I'm retired, Courtney, so you can.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Come out of retirement like all the big quess Jeff.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, we could do that. Oh one game or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
All right, we'll do that.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
All right.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Hey, coming up, it is going to be day what
three of the heatwave, but we're going to look you
up cool down today, Late Compounds, water Park, Crocodile.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Cove, Oh chump.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, you can win tickets. Coming up this morning at
seven to ten time for my favorite new game on
Kiss ninety five seven. It's Courtney Savannah Walmart Jeff. This
game we call who set it off the air? Lots
of things are set off the air. Yeah, lots of
things don't make it on the air. Yeah, up for
grams tickets to Late Compounds. I'm going to give you

(11:57):
three statements that were set off the air. If you
can correctly identify who said that statement, you're gonna win
the tickets.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, and this is not a three.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Our new favorite game, and it is the hardest game
for us here in the studio to play.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I don't know why it's so difficult. Yeah, three statements,
you correctly identify who said two of them, and you
win the tickets. It is that easy. If you want
to play who said it? Off the air for tickets
to Lake Compounds, call us eight six zho two four
seven nine five seven zero.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Well, you got to give the statements before, see what
I mean. It's the easiest game, but it's the When can.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
We cancel this stupid game? All right? Here we go,
say me number one, I'm a really good flirt. Can
you believe you forgot the game? Who said it? Savannah
Walmart or myself? Courtney stave me? Number two? I hate
drinking soda with strange people's names on it? Who said that?
Courtney Savannah or Walmart Jeff? And saying number three. If

(12:57):
anything happens, I'm in charge, Courtney, Savannah Walmart Jeff. If
you want to play the game eight six, So is
it time now yes, eight six oh two four seven
nine five seven Oh, Kayla, and Southington is on the line.
Good morning, Kayla, Good morning, Well, welcome to the show.
Who said it off the air? Hopefully we can play
the game correctly with you. We're gonna give it our
best shot, Okay, Kayla, Okay, all right, up for grabs.

(13:21):
Two tickets to lay compounds. Are you currently swimming? Sounds
sounds like you're in a rowboat?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
No, sorry, I had to go off speaker.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh okay, all right, So Kayla, all you gonna do
is correctly identify two of the statements who said them,
and you're gonna win. Stamen. Number one, I'm a really
good flirt. Who said that? Savannah Courtney, Walmart, Jeff Courtney
Okay stated number two. I hate drinking soda with other
people's names on it. Savannah Courtneer Walmart, Jeff Walmart Jeff

(13:51):
Okay stated number three. If anything happens, I'm in charge.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
See now, I'm thinking if I want to switch my answers.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Oh, that would be first for this game, by the way,
and I was so confused.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
If anything happens, I'm in charge. Who said it off
the air? Savannah, Courtney or Walmart Jeff.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
I'm gonna go that one with Walmart Jeff and the
other one with Savannah.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Which other one the soda one for Savannah for Savannah? Okay,
Well listen, you did Okay, you only got one right
out of three? You need to get two right?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Okay, Oh all right, thanks for trying. Goodbye. All right,
if you want to play who said it? Off the air?
Eight six oh two four seven nine five seven, Oh,
Gina and Cheshure's on the line, Geene, are you ready
to play who said it? Off the air?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Sure? All right.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I have a feeling that you're gonna get all of them.
Here we go. All you're gonna do is correctly identify
who said two of the statements. You're gonna get those
tickets of Lake Compounds. Statement number one, I'm a really
good flirt. Did Savannah, Walmart or Courtney say it?

Speaker 5 (14:55):
That was you?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Courtney?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Okay? Statement number two, I hate drinking soda? Was strange
people's names on it? Courtney, Savannah or Walmart Jeff? That
was It's David. Number three. If anything happens, I'm in charge. Courtney,
Savannah or Walmart?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's Savannah.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Oh, wow. All three. Wrong. No, I don't think anyone's
gonna get this one. Gina, this is a tough one.
Thank you so much for trying.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
No worry, thank you.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
All right, nobody is going to get it, so let's
just take collar ten right now for Lake Compound tickets.
I'm a really good flirt, Savannah said it. Hey, and
she is borderline slutty though she's helping me with hinge.
She's a really good flirt, Savannah said it. It's not Jeff,

(15:46):
is it sunny?

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Okay? And the statement I hate drinking soda estrange people's
names on it, that was me. I don't like this
old Coca cola. Oh there's a there's a coke that
says Emily on it. I don't I don't want to
buy it. I've already to pepsi now because I think
it's weird to grab a sode with somebody else's name
on it.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
They want you to share a coke with Emily or Geors.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Okay, well that's not going to happen, so give me
a different option, and it's called pepsi. Oh my god.
Number three. If anything happens, I'm in charge.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Walmart said that off the air, solely based on the
fact that Courtney won't drink a coke with so much.
If there is an emergency situation, I am in charge.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
You are all right? Color ten late compounds tickets eight
six oh two four seven nine five seven. Oh well,
yesterday I told you there was trouble in Paradise for
Katie Perry and Orlando Bloom, and now it looks like
they've reportedly called it quits. They were together for almost
a decade, just in time for what's shaping up to
be the wedding I would say of the century. Jeff
Bezo and his fiance Lauren are getting married in Italy

(16:47):
this weekend. And guess what, Orlando Bloom's already there solo.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Oh really, well, she's on tour.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
But he's there solo. And I'm hearing he's planning on
spending a lot of time with Leo DiCaprio. That can't
be good. Like two the full stories on my blog,
Justin Bieber is sharing another glimpse of his ten month
old son as his wife Haley is in New York
for getting to put on her wedding ring. Justin posted
a black and white photo of his son Jack blues
on Instagram, Jack's little hand. It was like on Justin's

(17:17):
face and it was so beautiful all right, But the
only caption he had was a sad face, Like why
would that be a sad face?

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Maybe the baby's sick, maybe summertime.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I thought Justin was like sad face. Mommy's away and
she's not wearing her ring. Maybe the photos on my
blog and Taylor Swift shocked her fans with a surprise
performance in Nashville. She was with her boyfriend Travis Kelsey
for his Tight Ends and Friends concert. She jumped on
stage and performed shake It Off, Tell You What I
Love Taylor Swift. She says she was setting up at
the bar having drinks with Travis and thought, how can

(17:52):
we rile this crowd up? And when a guy next
to her just said, Hey, do you want my guitar?
She grabbed the guitar from this dude that was drinking
at the bar, got up there and sang and you
don't hear it, but the crowd went absolutely crazy. Taylor said, Travis,
hold my earrings. Watch this. You can see that video
and more in all of these stories Kiss ninety five
to seven dot com Slash Courtney. Oh no, no, don't.

(18:14):
I don't want to do it. We have to, I
don't we do not we do? We don't? I oh
on cue at every Side on Hinge part of the
show where we go over my Hinge profile and try
to meet.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
A man, trying to get what I think it's going.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I look at the app there looks like there's there's
people that are giving me hearts. A heart is good,
Savannah said, that means that somebody likes you.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, very quick to judge you. I think there are
I think there are some things that we need to
work on. Maybe I go a homework assignment for court Oh, I.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Like this, Okay, you tell me, I'll work on whatever
you want. I'm going with it with you guys. You
guys are going to pick the guy I go on
a date with. I want Savannah to respond. Apparently they're
trying to talk to me. There's like some how many
messages do I have? Like she's on Savannah, so five
messages that you have yet to apply to Okay.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
So that should be like the big things getting back
to these people, like any clicks.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I'm gonna let Savannah, I'm gonna let you. This is
her hidden talent by the way, all right, so learning
on dating apps is Savannah's hidden talent. She does it
for all her Oh this guy just flirted back with you, Courtney. Well,
what does he say? What's happening? So this is rich?
Is this a guy that said I play drums and
I'm like no, Rich.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
Rich is the guy who asked the last place that
you explored and you said that you enjoy being a
tourist in your own city.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, I don't go anywhere.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
And he responded by saying, I'm hoping my next discovery
will have long hair, a sweet smile, and is very smart.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Head that is really good.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
How do we respond? Oh? My god?

Speaker 6 (19:55):
Well he also asked what other water activities you enjoy
in addition to powder bory?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Okay, can you just respond to him? Let's hear Savannah's
response that guy she.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Enjoys with fishing.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh, don't lead with fishing because he'll think I'm kind
of like, let's lead with I enjoy boatings. I enjoy boating,
going to the beach, like anything ocean a See, what
is she going to respond? What he said to me?

Speaker 4 (20:17):
So some other things that we can work on.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
While she's kind of replying you, uh, snap judgments, Like
just because somebody says they play the drums, that doesn't
automatically disqualify them.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I know, but I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
Like I played.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Conversations start five? Should still be playing drums? Should you
be playing Tibetan healing balls? You're not Tibetan. Last I looked,
you're not Tibetan coordinating?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
And wait and did the bulls give you like a
bum risk? That's fine?

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, I think we need to work.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I just didn't know how to respond to I play
drums and then.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
It ain't confidence for you, self esteem for you.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
And roses, because if you're not playing drums with guns.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
And roses, Enough with the drums. Let's get away from
the jumps, all right.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
So the message is done? Okay, wait, okay, wait? Should
we can we read his one more time and then
my quote Savannah's response. Let's do it all right?

Speaker 6 (21:04):
So he said, hoping my next discovery will have long hair,
a sweet smile, and so smart that I want to
take a lifetime exploring.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Oh my god, it's this guy.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Cute.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
He's gonna be my date.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
And then he asked what other water activities you enjoy,
and I said, well, I hope that discovery won't take
you too long to find with a with a smiley face.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I love voting. I really enjoyed being outdoors and just
enjoying life. What about you? I like that? Is that good?

Speaker 6 (21:31):
She SAIDs so quick, because because if we give you
too much time?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Is this guy top of the list right now?

Speaker 3 (21:39):
For us?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
For me, I would say he's top three. What's his name? Rich? Rich?
His name is Rich? Okay, Oh, I hope he's rich
as well.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
There are other guy, well, I mean that's another thing.
We we can just go out and hang out with
these guys.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
They don't have to like fighter pilot guy too.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
There's so many guys. Message all right.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well we're gonna pick one. At some point we're picking one.
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