November 18, 2025 • 8 mins
Coach Cav with Bob & Adam on the process based win
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Continue, I'm a Yukon hockey coach. Wow, Alex Green's in
the house. Come on, Alex is our men's basketball and
football engineer. Does a fantastic job. I guess ohyea, It's
right him and Bener off the air. Because because of this,
we got a football coaches show tomorrow. We have let
me think, who do we have tomorrow? We have Jackson
Harper punt returner, and we also have Omar Dia Monday,
(00:21):
who had himself a monster game on Saturday. He's been
great the last ones.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Listen to the coach more on the radio. They had
him on ESPN you and it was talking that ball.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It was great, nice, very good one thing that And
I'm gonna give Dan props for this on his Hockey
Yukon Hockey Hub. You mentioned it though, process based win Saturday.
When I think of that and you saying that, I immediately
think of your time with Jerry at BC and your
conversations with Gino. Probably the same type of thing that
(00:56):
they expect out of their teams as head coaches, and
that's what makes them not just good teams, but great
teams that have aspirations of winning championships. Would I be
kind of going in that right direction.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
With that guy, I would I would say that would
be fair. I think that it's funny because it's such
a little buzzword, the process. You know, stay with the process.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
And I think basically what we're saying is there's certain
things you can't really focus on a result. I mean,
if you're focused on the result, you're not going to
play very well. But if you focus on winning fifty
five percenty of face offs, you know, that'll help you win.
If you focus on winning the net front battles, that'll
(01:39):
help you win. If you focus on winning special teams,
that'll help you win. If you focus on not giving
up you know, three or more odd man rushes that'll
help you win. If you focus on not taking undisciplined penalties,
that'll help you win. So though, like those are just
some of the things that that we try to focus on,
(02:00):
and there's others. But when you just put the focus
on that and break it down to that, you don't
think about the score. So the score doesn't really matter.
And at the end of the day, when you can achieve,
like if we have five objectives, or if we have
six objectives or seven objectives, if we can get four
out of five or six out of seven, Yeah, that's
(02:23):
gonna be. That's gonna give us a great chance to
win the hockey game.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Over the course of your now, you know, three decades
and coaching in Hockey East and a lifetime of experience
in it, have you come to getting a sense of
when those objectives are too many to overwhelm. You don't
want to twenty, but we.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Try to narrow it down to five and on.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So for example, on Friday night, we won the game
and we got three points, but we only achieve two
and a half of the five objectives, and that's I
wasn't very happy, and I told them that on Saturday, Saturday,
you know, Saturday night, we only got two points because
an overtime win's not worth as much as a regular win,
a regulation win. But we got four out of five,
(03:13):
and I was much happier because I think if you're
continually getting those objectives, you're going to win a lot
more than you not. Now, you're going to lose some
games when you play really well, but that's okay. It's
not sustainable to continue to win hockey games when you're
getting two out of five objectives or two and a
half out of five objectives or three out of five
(03:35):
at home, you should be getting more than that. And
if undisciplined penalties is one of your objectives, you should
already start with one you shouldn't like. That's one you
can control. You should never ever lose that objective, Mike.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
On Friday, when they came back Northeastern, first goal three
on one for your team that missed the net, and
then Northeastern comes down to score, you can an odd
man rush. I would think you got to at least
get the puck on the net to at least try
to combat a potential odd man rush the other way
(04:08):
and give yourself a good chance to maybe even get
a greasey goal if you're not scoring on the first shot.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But the puck was in Jake Richard's hands. So when
he has a puck in his hands, if he wants
to try to go top shelf, I'm okay with it because.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
He can do it now.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
He missed it, And when you miss it, there's consequences
on a three on one because it's going to come
back at you the other way four on two pretty much,
And that's kind of what happened but we did survive it.
We just missed some assignments after the fact.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
On Friday, you played without Joey Muldowney got back into
the lineup on Saturday, obviously had the game winning golden overtime. Yeah,
what from a health standpoint, without getting too deep into it,
you know, how was he ready Saturday but not Friday?
What was he still working through to just get better?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
So he had a concussion.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So in this concussion protocol, now, it was really an
innocuous hit that happened, you know on Friday night when
he got knocked out of the game and he actually
delivered the hit, but the way he fell on the opponent,
he hit his head in the way, and it happens.
(05:25):
And I'm all for the back when I was playing,
he probably would have played on Saturday night. I mean
that's how it was back then, right, you know. And
I just think it's I love the whole concussion protocol
because it's just black and white. You have to go
through every step before you are eligible to play again.
And could we have fudged a step maybe and put
(05:47):
him in Friday night. Not I'm not gonna do that,
and I'm not I'm not gonna have our trainers do that.
So that's why he didn't play Friday night, and he
could play Saturday night, you know, and he was probably
you know, it was funny, was I thought he was
a little tentative at first on Saturday, okay, And it's
like you have to go through a physical practice before
(06:09):
you can be cleared to play, which he did. But
a physical practice with your own teammates is not like
playing an opponent, and it's not the same. So I
thought he was a little tentative. In fact, I wasn't
even going to play him in overtime, but Tyler Helton
had sent me a clip from Nick Saban on It's
a great story when he was fifteen years old and
(06:30):
he was a quarterback and there was fourth and seven
or whatever, fourth and goal from the seven yard line,
and he called the plays, he was the quarterback, and
the coach called the time out, and Nick Saban said,
I'm so excited that he called the time out because
he can call this play. And he went over to
the sidelines and he says, coach, what do you want
to call? And the coach said, well, you're going to
(06:51):
call a play, he said, but you have an All
State running back and you got an all state wide receiver.
He said, just make sure whatever play you call go
to one of those two. And he says that was
the best lesson he learned because it's not so much
about the play, it's just make sure it's going in
the right player's hands. So I wasn't going to play
Joe winning overtime because I thought he was tentative, and
I thought about what Tyler has sent me. I said,
(07:13):
this kid scored thirty goals for us last year. How
do I not put him on the ice in overtime?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, he talks about the game winning goal in our
interview coming up because he wanted to shoot it but
he never saw He wanted to go glove low, but
he never saw it available.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Then that's why he made his move. Was a goal
scorer goal, Yeah, it was. It was. I actually thought
he got it, like.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
At first, I didn't realize it went in because he
almost when he turned around, he almost got it with
the paddle.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
So Nick Saban has multiple national championships with Alabama, multiple
wins with the Dolphins in the NFL. He's got one
hockey coaching win as well.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, he got one layer of the night. Yeah, give
him credit. See if he can get me on college
game day.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
As a picker.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, maybe they'll come up. Maybe they'll come to the
start for next year.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, hey, look, if we were undefeated, maybe they would
have showed up last week at Air against Air Force.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You never know, they're going back to Oregon this week.
What the hell?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, well, you know whatever, that is what it is,
all right, more with Cave in a minute, Shae and
Kate and Shahan and Joey Muldowney later on the Yukonacki
Coaches Show here on their field.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Stay with us,
Continue, I'm a Yukon hockey coach. Wow, Alex Green's in
the house. Come on, Alex is our men's basketball and
football engineer. Does a fantastic job. I guess ohyea, It's
right him and Bener off the air. Because because of this,
we got a football coaches show tomorrow. We have let
me think, who do we have tomorrow? We have Jackson
Harper punt returner, and we also have Omar Dia Monday,
(00:21):
who had himself a monster game on Saturday. He's been
great the last ones.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Listen to the coach more on the radio. They had
him on ESPN you and it was talking that ball.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It was great, nice, very good one thing that And
I'm gonna give Dan props for this on his Hockey
Yukon Hockey Hub. You mentioned it though, process based win Saturday.
When I think of that and you saying that, I immediately
think of your time with Jerry at BC and your
conversations with Gino. Probably the same type of thing that
(00:56):
they expect out of their teams as head coaches, and
that's what makes them not just good teams, but great
teams that have aspirations of winning championships. Would I be
kind of going in that right direction.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
With that guy, I would I would say that would
be fair. I think that it's funny because it's such
a little buzzword, the process. You know, stay with the process.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
And I think basically what we're saying is there's certain
things you can't really focus on a result. I mean,
if you're focused on the result, you're not going to
play very well. But if you focus on winning fifty
five percenty of face offs, you know, that'll help you win.
If you focus on winning the net front battles, that'll
(01:39):
help you win. If you focus on winning special teams,
that'll help you win. If you focus on not giving
up you know, three or more odd man rushes that'll
help you win. If you focus on not taking undisciplined penalties,
that'll help you win. So though, like those are just
some of the things that that we try to focus on,
(02:00):
and there's others. But when you just put the focus
on that and break it down to that, you don't
think about the score. So the score doesn't really matter.
And at the end of the day, when you can achieve,
like if we have five objectives, or if we have
six objectives or seven objectives, if we can get four
out of five or six out of seven, Yeah, that's
(02:23):
gonna be. That's gonna give us a great chance to
win the hockey game.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Over the course of your now, you know, three decades
and coaching in Hockey East and a lifetime of experience
in it, have you come to getting a sense of
when those objectives are too many to overwhelm. You don't
want to twenty, but we.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Try to narrow it down to five and on.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So for example, on Friday night, we won the game
and we got three points, but we only achieve two
and a half of the five objectives, and that's I
wasn't very happy, and I told them that on Saturday, Saturday,
you know, Saturday night, we only got two points because
an overtime win's not worth as much as a regular win,
a regulation win. But we got four out of five,
(03:13):
and I was much happier because I think if you're
continually getting those objectives, you're going to win a lot
more than you not. Now, you're going to lose some
games when you play really well, but that's okay. It's
not sustainable to continue to win hockey games when you're
getting two out of five objectives or two and a
half out of five objectives or three out of five
(03:35):
at home, you should be getting more than that. And
if undisciplined penalties is one of your objectives, you should
already start with one you shouldn't like. That's one you
can control. You should never ever lose that objective, Mike.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
On Friday, when they came back Northeastern, first goal three
on one for your team that missed the net, and
then Northeastern comes down to score, you can an odd
man rush. I would think you got to at least
get the puck on the net to at least try
to combat a potential odd man rush the other way
(04:08):
and give yourself a good chance to maybe even get
a greasey goal if you're not scoring on the first shot.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But the puck was in Jake Richard's hands. So when
he has a puck in his hands, if he wants
to try to go top shelf, I'm okay with it because.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
He can do it now.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
He missed it, And when you miss it, there's consequences
on a three on one because it's going to come
back at you the other way four on two pretty much,
And that's kind of what happened but we did survive it.
We just missed some assignments after the fact.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
On Friday, you played without Joey Muldowney got back into
the lineup on Saturday, obviously had the game winning golden overtime. Yeah,
what from a health standpoint, without getting too deep into it,
you know, how was he ready Saturday but not Friday?
What was he still working through to just get better?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
So he had a concussion.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So in this concussion protocol, now, it was really an
innocuous hit that happened, you know on Friday night when
he got knocked out of the game and he actually
delivered the hit, but the way he fell on the opponent,
he hit his head in the way, and it happens.
(05:25):
And I'm all for the back when I was playing,
he probably would have played on Saturday night. I mean
that's how it was back then, right, you know. And
I just think it's I love the whole concussion protocol
because it's just black and white. You have to go
through every step before you are eligible to play again.
And could we have fudged a step maybe and put
(05:47):
him in Friday night. Not I'm not gonna do that,
and I'm not I'm not gonna have our trainers do that.
So that's why he didn't play Friday night, and he
could play Saturday night, you know, and he was probably
you know, it was funny, was I thought he was
a little tentative at first on Saturday, okay, And it's
like you have to go through a physical practice before
(06:09):
you can be cleared to play, which he did. But
a physical practice with your own teammates is not like
playing an opponent, and it's not the same. So I
thought he was a little tentative. In fact, I wasn't
even going to play him in overtime, but Tyler Helton
had sent me a clip from Nick Saban on It's
a great story when he was fifteen years old and
(06:30):
he was a quarterback and there was fourth and seven
or whatever, fourth and goal from the seven yard line,
and he called the plays, he was the quarterback, and
the coach called the time out, and Nick Saban said,
I'm so excited that he called the time out because
he can call this play. And he went over to
the sidelines and he says, coach, what do you want
to call? And the coach said, well, you're going to
(06:51):
call a play, he said, but you have an All
State running back and you got an all state wide receiver.
He said, just make sure whatever play you call go
to one of those two. And he says that was
the best lesson he learned because it's not so much
about the play, it's just make sure it's going in
the right player's hands. So I wasn't going to play
Joe winning overtime because I thought he was tentative, and
I thought about what Tyler has sent me. I said,
(07:13):
this kid scored thirty goals for us last year. How
do I not put him on the ice in overtime?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, he talks about the game winning goal in our
interview coming up because he wanted to shoot it but
he never saw He wanted to go glove low, but
he never saw it available.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Then that's why he made his move. Was a goal
scorer goal, Yeah, it was. It was. I actually thought
he got it, like.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
At first, I didn't realize it went in because he
almost when he turned around, he almost got it with
the paddle.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
So Nick Saban has multiple national championships with Alabama, multiple
wins with the Dolphins in the NFL. He's got one
hockey coaching win as well.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, he got one layer of the night. Yeah, give
him credit. See if he can get me on college
game day.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
As a picker.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, maybe they'll come up. Maybe they'll come to the
start for next year.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, hey, look, if we were undefeated, maybe they would
have showed up last week at Air against Air Force.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You never know, they're going back to Oregon this week.
What the hell?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, well, you know whatever, that is what it is,
all right, more with Cave in a minute, Shae and
Kate and Shahan and Joey Muldowney later on the Yukonacki
Coaches Show here on their field.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
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