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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We were talking about the Netflix docuseries that is released
as of this morning. It's a three part docu series
that is out on Netflix this morning called Amy Bradley
is Missing. So we were talking about that yesterday and
kind of talking about the story. It goes back twenty
seven years and they were out on the boat and
Amy was there with her parents and her brother Brad,
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and that we heard from Brad yesterday. Hey Brad, Yes, sir, Hey,
thanks thanks for popping on with us this morning. I
really appreciate it, no problem, Thanks for having me absolutely.
So we were talking about the story yesterday, and I mean,
it goes back twenty seven years ago. Although I'm sure
for you and your family every day, I'm sure it
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doesn't feel like it's twenty seven years.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm sure it still feels like it was just yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It does. You know, I've said a number of times
on different interviews, it feels like, you know, yesterday and
one hundred years ago, same time.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Hey, So let me ask you this the the the story.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
We'll get into it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
How how did we come twenty seven years later that
that you team up in your family teams up to
have a docu series come out on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We were contacted by an individual who introduced us to
the producers who had interest in, you know, telling Amy's story,
and we agreed to participate. You know, difficult as it
is to drag up all the emotions, you know, we
take every opportunity. We have to do everything we can
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to you know, keep on trying to find her or
find out what happened. So we decided to do the
series and are hopeful that something will come of.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It, you know, brat we do.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
The show does a decent amount of work with the
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. And I remember
talking to John Walsh and him explaining kind of exactly
what you said where and listen, you guys get I
don't want to say troll, but there's been you chase
down sightings, there was the people who are trying to
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extort money from you. And then there's I mean, there's
jackasses in the world, and what you what what you
and your family gets put through. And I remember John
Walsh talking about and said, listen, yes that happens, but
you do whatever you can in order to keep that
search alive, to keep the name alive in hopes of
finding answers.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yes, sir, I mean, yeah, there are a lot of
nasty things that you know, you try not to read
through the comments on things online because there's a lot
of people that don't have a good heart, you know,
and they say a lot of hurtful things, and they
don't know the story, and largely, you know, I blame
ignorance and not you know, they obviously don't know Amy
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and don't know her character, and you know, they'll say
a lot of things like that. But we, you know,
we sift through that crap and we believe she's out there.
We believe she's alive. Always have had this gut feeling
that's hard to explain to the general public, who just
assumes that she went overboard and that's it. But you know,
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anytime something comes up, we we chase it down and
follow it to the end. And unfortunately, to this point,
you know, nothing's nothing's come of it, obviously, but you know,
we know, we know somebody knows something out there, and
and we're hopeful someone will decide that it's time to
come forward and say something.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Hey Brett, so so go back and you said, you know,
like likes, people don't know the story in a in
a thumbnail and we we did get into it yesterday,
but you know, maybe some people didn't hear it.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Whatever the case is. Back me up to twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Years ago when you and Amy and your parents are
on the cruise ship.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Okay, so Amy and I flew down separately. We had
a you know, a lot of fun preparing for the trip.
She was a little apprehensive because she was even though
she was a very strong swimmer. We've been in a
you know, a swim team our whole lives. She was,
you know, a swim coach and a lifeguard and all
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that kind of thing, but wasn't a fan of what
was in the ocean. And so the only hesitation she
had on going on the cruise. There's a lot of
people out there that say she didn't want to go
and we made her go, and you know, a bunch
of craft like that, which wasn't true. We were both
very excited to go. We get down on the cruise.
The first night we got into our room. We're up
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on the eighth level. So I look over and lean
over the rail to look straight down and I'm like,
oh my god, Amy, come look at this, and she
was like, Nope, she she wouldn't. She wouldn't even get
near the rail. So the idea of her falling over
at five foot six with four foot rails, it's just
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not a possibility. She had so much go on in
her life, recently, graduating college, getting a new puppy, getting
into apartment, you know, writing postcards to all her friends
about what they were going to do when she got home,
buying gifts for people. She was not in despair, She
was not struggling with her identity, no chance whatsoever she jumped.
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You know, you know she's not going to jump off
the boat in the dark, in the ocean, as scared
as she was of what's in the ocean. Right, So
we know she didn't fall over because she wouldn't even
approach the rail. We know she didn't jump, and we
know she left the balcony, even though she slept on
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the balcony, you know, in the early morning hours after
we got back from the disco, when my dad woke
up the first time he saw her legs on the
balcony chair halfway covered by the you know, the drapes
on the window. And then he woke up half an
hour later and she was gone. But the balcony door
having previously been closed. When I came in, the room
was open about twelve to eighteen inches, and the shirt
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that she had on she was sleeping in was draped
across the chair in the room. So we believe she
left the room for some unknown reason, either to go
up and watch the sunrise or take pictures, or meet
somebody that she had planned, you know, the night before.
There are several you know, suspects in the case that
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were seen with her. There were two girls when we
reboarded the ship that said that they saw Amy go
up a glass elevator to the disco between five point
thirty and six am. The FBI, you know, on the
docuseries will say that that time frame is not able
to be confirmed because the girl's mother left them back
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into the room, so there's no evidence of a key
card yeah when they yeah, yeah, So you know, we
think that she was targeted and taken, and that's where
the mystery you know, begins and continues.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And so in your she's twenty three at the time,
you're twenty one, and so your parents, your parents had
gone back, like like you said, you guys were out.
You're listen, You're twenty three and twenty one, you're going
on a cruise. Freaking awesome. Yeah, and then like that night,
you guys, you guys had gone to dinner. There was
a big dinner on the boat, and then you guys
are just out, and so your parents went back to bed,
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and then you told Amy, hey, listen, I'm gonna I'm
gonna turn in, and she was like, I'm gonna stay
out for a little bit longer.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But she wasn't. She wasn't really out that much longer
than you. It was. It wasn't that long before she
came back to the room.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And then, like you said, your dad makes up it's
five point thirty in the morning, sees Amy's legs and
that she's out on the chair. And then you know,
a half hour later when when when your dad wakes
up again, the door that eighteen inches, that's wide enough
just to kind of slide through, come back in quietly
and then exit the room as to not wake you
and your parents up.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Like that, all that all tracks to me.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
One of the one of the people, Brad that you
mentioned in terms of like suspects or maybe she was
meeting somebody, is that is that Alistair.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Douglass, the guy from the the from the band.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
It is. You know, we were at the pool party
in the first part of the evening on the pool
deck with everybody, you know, dancing, then having a good time.
And then after the pool party ended, my parents went
to bed and we decided to go up to the
dance club with everybody else. So dance club was open
until about three am. When I left the dance club,
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I went back to the room. I think the key
cart Entry shows something like three thirty five am. She
came back in the room literally five minutes later and
joined me on the balcony. We're out there, you know,
discussing what we're going to do the next day. She
made a comment that Yellow had kind of made a
pass at her and I don't know, attempted to touch
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her chest, and she you know, didn't make a big
deal of it, but you know, made it known. She
kind of made a joke like, you know, that ain't happening, buddy, right. So,
you know, being that it was you know, four am,
and we had to be up in a few hours,
I said, you know, look, i think I'm gonna go
to bed. When the boat had left the rub but she,
you know, had a little bit of a sea sick feeling.
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You know, each time the boat pulled out the port,
you get those sea legs, and you know, you don't
feel very good. So when I went in, she said,
you know, I don't I don't feel real good. I'm
going to stay out here where all the wind in
the fresh air is. So, you know, I told her
I loved her, and went to bed and woke up
the next morning to what we've lived with for the
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past twenty seven years. Yellow. Yeah, Yellow came up to me.
So Yellow came up to me, you know, after we
left the room and went out to look for her ourselves.
I'm sitting by the pool on the top deck and
he walks up to me and says, I'm sorry to
hear about your sister. This was about seven am, before
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any announcements had been made, and to my knowledge, people
weren't aware yet of what had happened. And he asked
me when the last time I saw her was, and
I told, you know, started telling him my timeline, but
he interrupted me and said, hold on, I want my
brother to hear this. So he goes over to who
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I assume was one of his bandmates, and he brings
this guy back over and he says, okay, go ahead.
So I proceeded to give them my timeline, and in retrospect,
that was in an effort to get their story straight.
And you know, at the time it didn't register, but
you know, it certainly has over the years that that
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was a fairly obvious interaction. And you know, I believe
that he had had something to do with her disappearance.
Whether he was directly responsible or facilitated some type of
meeting or or or whatnot, I don't know obviously, but
he's changed his timeline over the years. In a recent interview,
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actually the only interview I've ever seen him do in
twenty seven years, he claims that he was back in
his room at one am, and I think the FBI
have confirmed that he came back to his room, you know,
after three point thirty in the morning. So he's definitely lying,
and you know, when you're telling the truth, you don't
have to lie. So you know, he's definitely top on
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the list, and he's claimed and maintained his innocence over
the years, but yeah, we're not so sure.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And then other than that time on the boat, yellow
or Alistair Douglass. You've never the family's never heard from
him again, right, Like, I know that he was questioned
by the FBI, he was polygraphed and all that other stuff,
and I believe the result of that was the FBI
saying that there wasn't there wasn't enough conclusive evidence to
continue to investigate him. But from a family standpoint, after that,
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the interaction that you had with him on the boat,
family's never heard from him again.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Correct, directly?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
What about when you say not directly, did you guys
hear from him indirectly?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I mean just you know, other than that interview that
came out a few months ago, you know, I've never
heard him speak about it other than secondhand maybe from
the FBI. You know, they tell you very little. But
you know, I know the first polygraph that he did
on the boat was inconclusive and then they had to
redo it. And apparently he you know, passed a polygraph.
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But you know, people that do bad things, sociopaths and
that kind of thing, I don't think would have too
hard a time, you know, passing a polygraph if they
don't have a conscience.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Hey, Brad, so let me ask you this in the
In the years since then, there have been Amy Bradley
sightings or reported sightings. I guess, I guess that I
should And there's there's been a number of them where
you know, people say, oh, I saw her at like
this market, or I saw her in Aruba? When when
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when when those reports and those sightings come in, does
do any of them stand out like and listen? I
also can understand people going like, oh, I think that
may be it. I'm going to say something, and you
appreciate that, you applaud that you want people to come forward.
But the one with the with the navy petty or
the naval petty officer William Hefner, who said that he
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was at a brothel and said that she had said
to him because she knew he was American, and said,
my name is my name is Amy Bradley. And then
he didn't He claims he didn't go forward because he
knew he wasn't supposed to be there and he was
afraid of his of what it would do to his
military career. Is that is that the most concrete sighting
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or or presumed sighting, at least at least for the family.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Well, there's three there's definitely that one, you know, and
when when Hefner finally came forward and told us that,
I believe it was close to two years after the fact,
and we sent investigators down to visit that brothel, which
had since burned down, so that you know, that lead
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kind of abruptly ended there. There was another sighting by
a Canadian diver who was at a beach on Porto
Marie on Cursow that saw her with two men, described
her tattoos. At the time, he didn't he wasn't aware
of the story, but when he got home from the trip,
he saw the story and you know, claims one hundred
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percent that he's he's convinced that that was her, and
he shared with the FBI, which people will see on
the docuseries, that he identified Yellow as one of the
men with her. There's a third the lady on Barbados
another sighting where the girl said her name and she
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came up to her in a bath public bathroom and said,
you know, please help, my name is Amy.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And then.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
The lady says that, you know, two men came into
the bathroom and you know, directed her out. So there's
you know, there's been a lot of purported sightings, but
the ones where the person actually says their name, you know,
definitely stand out. And you know, we've had at least
three or four sightings that have been credible that that
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we've kind of held on to proving if in fact true,
that she was alive at least seven to nine years
after her disappearance.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Are you and the family happy with how the the
it's a three part series on Netflix that that that
came out this morning. Are you Are you in the
family happy with the finished product?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
We are? For for the vast majority, Uh uh, we are.
That was well done probably, you know, obviously the best
production value of any anything we've done over the years.
The one thing that you know, we weren't really happy
with was that there was an angle pushed about Amy sexuality,
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being that she was gay. They left out, uh, you know,
a five hour interview that her actual the guy she
was dating at the time of the cruise, so just
told a little bit of an incomplete story and you know,
sexuality not being uh something that had anything to do
with her disappearance in my opinion. But other than that
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small thing, we were, you know, very happy with what
they did, and I think they did a great job
and we're looking forward to people you know, watching, and
hopefully again some new information will come forward and we
can get the answers that we've been looking for.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Hey, Brad, when when something like this is going on,
and when I say something like this, I don't mean
the story, but like a docu series coming out on
Netflix about your sister, is do you guys meet with
law enforcement or the FBI ahead of time and go, hey, listen,
this story is going to go international on Netflix when
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it comes out, so that there.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Is a little bit of listen.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I'm sure they're not sitting around and waiting, but so
that there is a little preparation to know, Hey, this
case has been ongoing for twenty seven years, this is
going to come out. I'm assuming at some level they
are made aware that there could be sightings, there could
be new information, so that they are ready on behalf
of your family to be able to go out and
investigate something that's true.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You know, We've taken steps and made preparations and lists
and contact information and have people ready to respond, and
the FBI has told us that they are, you know,
ready if anything were to come that they can facilitate
helping us.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So, yeah, last two things, the in the people will
watch the the docuseriies and and and like you said,
hopefully it comes Uh it comes out. Is it made
clear or is there something that the family is requesting
that if there is somebody who has information or it
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it triggers a memory or whatever it is, what is
the best direct route to get that information to whether
it's the family, law enforcement, what is what is the
preferred method?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, there's a there's an email set up and it's
Amy Bradley is Missing at gmail dot com. Uh, there's
a tip line that we have eight four seven eight
nine for Amy, and we also have a go Fundme
page set up under her name to help raise money
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to help us cover the costs of whatever may be
associated with leads that come in, uh, legal help, professional help, travel,
you know, and whatnot. And you know, my parents have
exhausted their savings over the years and there's not a
whole lot left to uh, you know, to cover the
expenses that might be involved here. So you know, the email,
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the tip line, the go fundme page, and then you know,
obviously the FBI, you know, if you go on their
website there's plenty of information of how to contact them.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Directly, and I did want to ask.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
The last thing is how how are your parents.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
A little frazzled, you know, stressed, anxious? Uh? You know, again,
the level of hope that we have. I know people
can't understand and it or relate with it necessarily, but
you know, the lack of closure in this case has
has allowed us to continue to hope. And so we're
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all on pins and needles. And you know, this is
the biggest exposure that Amy's story will have, you know, internationally,
and millions and millions of people will see it. And again,
like we said, we know there's someone out there that
knows something, and uh, it's time to come forward and
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end this thing. Yeah, but my parents are, you know,
having a little bit of a hard time and as
they as they always do when we go through this
process each time, and uh, uh you know, it's it's
a tough thing.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Hey, Brad. Again, I I do appreciate. I'm not exactly
sure how I'm supposed to end, Like I I want,
I want nothing but the best. I want closure. Obviously,
you want positive closure, uh, to be able to find
out So I do I I really I hope for
you and your family that that that you get closure
and positive closure would be great. So I mean, I
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hate saying best of luck like that sounds horrible. I
just I really appreciate you coming on this morning.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, I really appreciate you having me and bringing the
story to more people. And UH look forward to talking
to you again, hopefully with some new information.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That would be a great day, Brad. I appreciate it.
Thank you, sir, Thank you Elliott.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Have a good day, man.