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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When is the last time you went bowling?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We were just.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Talking about bowling.
Speaker 4 (00:06):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
It's been a minute though, it's been a while.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
What were you talking about bowling? Like you need to go?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yeah, we were talking about someplace it was he was
so special and that we hadn't been for a really
long time.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I think the is it? Well, I didn't bowl there.
Speaker 5 (00:21):
The last time I was at a bowling alley was
Uptown Alley when Diane Yea with her one her one
ball challenge or one strike challenge right, well she got
it on one ball whatever. But I think that was
the last time I was. Now, that is the last
time Diane bowled for sure. When Kim, now, when you
when you do bowl? Are you a regular bowler or
(00:42):
a can I can I use a term that I'll
be very honest, I've heard of the term, but I
don't know what it is at all. Like if if
somebody said explain, like I can explain bowling to somebody,
not well, but I at least know what bowling is,
I would not be able to explain what is duck
pin bowl.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
With what duck tin bowling?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Duck pin bowling?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Is it duck pin bowling when they have like the
guardrails or something. No, that's you can't lose.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
No, that's for like like like kids the well, yeah,
or just people. I can't bowl where it just it
doesn't go straight? What is duck pin bowling?
Speaker 7 (01:22):
Yeah? I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I cannot explain that you've heard it.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
You've heard it your whole life of like, yeah, of
course you have. CHRISTI will you do me a favor?
Will you I can find somebody who does duck pin bowling.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
I feel like over the years it's been mentioned. Yeah,
we've never really explored it.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I'll tell you, I've even I have probably said duck
pin bowling, not like you're just talking about it. But
I have no idea what it is. I have no
clue what it is. Krista, will you do me a favor?
Will you find me somebody who knows what duck pin
bowling is? Or maybe somebody who does duck pin bowling
like Mike Jones, he's he bowls in a league?
Speaker 7 (02:01):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Why do I with with with missus Jones?
Speaker 8 (02:04):
But regular bullet like I always associate duck pin bowling
with like kid's birthday parties.
Speaker 9 (02:10):
For I always thought it was.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I always I always tied it.
Speaker 8 (02:14):
But why do I always think of it as being
like a kid's activity.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Because you don't know what it is?
Speaker 9 (02:18):
So is it on?
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Because now you've got me thinking it's going to be
one of those arcade versions of bowling and ski ball
that have no that have the string is attached to
all the pins. No, and then they get all tangled
if you a bullet too hard?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
No, but buck? What duck?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Pin?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Bowling?
Speaker 10 (02:37):
Fuck?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Pin?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Isn't it just regular? Well it's not regular bowling, or
they would just call it bowling. But isn't duck? I
don't know what it is. I don't even know why
I'm trying to say, isn't it? I just thought the ball?
The ball is smaller.
Speaker 9 (02:50):
I have smaller balls.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
And aren't the pins like sort of squad like, like
shorter and fatter like wider?
Speaker 9 (02:58):
So is it? Is it? That's why I associated with kids?
Because it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's not kids, it's and it's not. Why is it easier?
What makes it easier?
Speaker 9 (03:06):
Because the pins are bigger?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You just said they're small, No.
Speaker 8 (03:09):
But shorter and wider? I mean, so the pins are fat?
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Yeah, that's what I thought how could anything be easier
than what you accomplished? We thought we were going to
be had uptown for.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
We were wondering what do we do at two am
when they close?
Speaker 9 (03:28):
Mad?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah? No, and Diane throws it in one in one shot?
Where am I going? Christen line five? Thank you? Hi
elliot in the morning.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Hi, I'm here to talk about the ducksman bowling.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes? Are you an adult?
Speaker 8 (03:45):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (03:45):
No, I'm a kid?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Are you really? How old are you?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I'm thirteen?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Wow? Is well? I hope you had a good bar mitzvah?
Are are is duck pin bowling for kids? No?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
No, not really?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Are you you in? Do you duck pin bowl?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Sometimes with my dad?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
What is what is duck pin bowling compared to regular bowling?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Or which should you not even compare the two?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
I mean, with my experiences, the balls are smaller, uh,
the lane is uh center, and the pins are smaller.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Wait? What do you mean the lanes is center thinner?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Thinner?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Thinner? Okay?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Is it harder a little bit shorter?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Is it harder or or easier than regular bowling?
Speaker 6 (04:36):
I think it's a little bit easier in my experience.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
What is the scoring? Is it if? Is it the
same scoring?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Yeah, it's about the same as normal bowling.
Speaker 9 (04:48):
Are you are you number of pins?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Oh yeah, that's a good question. Do same thing? Nine pins,
ten pins?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Yeah, it's the same amount of pins as normal bowling.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
So everything is set up the same. You don't have
to call it normal bawl, just bowling. But it's so
everything is set up the same, it just looks different.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, all right, very good. How often do you bowl?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I do it like once a month with my dad.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Sweet. You know what good for you? Good for you?
Speaker 9 (05:17):
Is the alley only duck pin?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Good question. Do you have to go to a special
bowling alley for it?
Speaker 11 (05:23):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah, most of the time.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
What I've never even seen like a duckpin bowling alley.
Why don't you tell that person to be quiet we're talking.
I don't care who it is. That's rude. I'm trying
to have a conversation the two of us, and she
keeps button in.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
All right, very good, Yeah, I know, I know. All right, dude. Hey, listen,
I appreciate the phone call. Thank you for the end.
And you want to say, butthole, Uh, I'm good, okay,
all right, very good.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Thank you. I'm great.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
I was about to make fun of the moming your
dad mentioned me.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
A great ending that call line, sah, hi Elliott the.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Morning, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 12 (06:10):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I am doing great? Thank you. Are you a duck
pin bowler?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I am not. But my parents met when they played
in a league fifty plus years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
They were in a duck pin bowling league.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yes, and for mine, I'm thirty nine now. In my
entire life, my dad said that duck pin bowling was
real bowling, and that was the harder of the bowling
because you have the ball of the size of basically
like a softball, maybe a little bit bigger, and like
the last caller, it is still ten pins, so it's
hard to knock it down. Harder is in his opinion.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Well, I can understand that are the are the but
you can't go to a bowling alley.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You have to go to a duck pin bowling alley.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, there was actually I don't know if it's still there,
but there was one on New Hampshire Avenue. You know
where the Boston Market was on New Hampshire Avenue.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
No, I know exactly where that is. I missed Boston Market,
you know, that.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
There was one in only at one point.
Speaker 9 (07:11):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That was that was that was my go to. That
was my go to.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I loved a Carver sandwich. Anyway, I'm sorry. Back to bowling.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Back to bowling.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
So there was a dust and bowling alley there you
would go in and he had to go down into
the basement like in the little strip mall there. So
like we want a handfull of times when I was
growing up, I'm not a professional, but yes, my parents
funny enough, they used to be in a league. I
remember the trophy, seeing the trophies when I was a
kid that they had in the house.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Interesting, what was the what was their team?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I have not a clue.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
My dad's nickname was beer Can growing up or not
growing up, but he was a he was a PG
County cop.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And his nickname was beer Can.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Awesome, all right, very good, very good. I appreciate it,
Thank you. So do they all have like in their
teenage or like who gives a duck duck?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
You hope?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So what is then.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
If we went to like at Uptown Alley, did they
have duckpin bowling there? But we just didn't see it
like I didn't go into the basement.
Speaker 9 (08:14):
Is there a speakeasy nature?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Oh? No?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (08:18):
Okay, oh you.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Think there are people lined up trying to get in
for duckpin bowling.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
Everyone is saying and agreeing that it is much harder
than traditional bowling.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
Okay, duck bowl, traditional.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Bull No, which bowling first? Bowling? You sure, yes, I'm
not but yes.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Well no, wouldn't you also assume that if duck pin
came first, it well no, but it would be the
more popular. Like duck pin bowling is not as popular
as bowling.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
There are forms of sport that came first.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
And then the New Age version is today what we
think of it being only in its existence?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Well, I have my pen out, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
Well you know there were peach baskets instead of nets.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Okay, where am I going? Hi?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Elliott the morning, Hey, good morning, This is Donna calling
from Beaverdown.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And when I went to Mary Washington in the graduating
in nineteen eighty eight, we used to go to Rebel
Bowl in Fredericksburg into Fine Knowledge. It's still there.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
For and that was it strictly duck pin bowling.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, it's just duck pin bowling.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
The bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
It's like, I can see why you reference ski ball
because it's a smaller brown ball. And yeah, it's just
duck pin bowling.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And it is it hard? Is it hard to like?
I don't want to say, is it hard to learn?
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Because if it's just regular bowling but smaller in the lanes, narrower,
it seems like it would be maybe the skill difference
is there, But in terms of everything else, it's exactly
the same.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yes, I mean, I think it's easier because the ball
is lighter. I mean, and you just I mean, it
depends on how you throw, but I always thought it
was easier.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I feel like i'd throw overhand, whip it right there?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Are there even finger holes in the ball?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You just palm it?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (10:23):
Two roles per frame.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Sounds right now?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
When you were a long time ago, Yeah, but you were.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
You were obviously into it a little bit, do you know,
Colton goo? No?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Okay, very good, All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am,
thank you.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
I have to explain to Diane, if you don't get
a strike, you do get a second roll. By the way,
bad news from the Facebook group Friends of Rebel Bull.
Oh no, Rebel Bull was a local duck pin bowling
alley that off a family atmosphere and created a lifetime
of friendships.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But it's close. Yeah, yes, Look how dated that building is.
Speaker 9 (11:07):
What is that picture from the sixties.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's an old looking building.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
It's a cool logo, the line six Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, Hi, who's this.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Keith calling from motafeo?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Oh yes, Keith? Are you hip to duck pin bowling?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I am. I used to do it a lot as
a kid. It's really popular in Baltimore and Philly. It's
in mid Atlantic stat Okay, I mean there is a
really big difference that no one's mentioning.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Can I jump in just for one second? Can I
excuse me? I just want to just want to jump
in for one second. I've lived in Philly and I've
lived here and I have never once even been or
no duck pin bowling. So like if you said, oh,
cheese steaks, it's a big Philly thing, I would agree
with you. Okay, yeah, wah wah, I'm right there with you.
Tasty cakes. Absolutely, dug pin bowling is not massive.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's true, but bigger in Baltimore than sorry, northeast of Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Okay, all right, very good, very good. What were you
going to tell me? There was something that nobody's mentioned.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That you use three balls per round?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Huh versus two in ten pin?
Speaker 9 (12:22):
Oh three rolls instead of two?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Correct, So you.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Get three three rolls to get a strike or a
spare as opposed to two.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's still one first strike, two first spare, and you
get a third chance to get ten pins.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh so instead of oh so that changes the scoring?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Correct? Correct? What is that's the biggest difference? Well, no,
because of a spare. That's where you could draw the line.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Through the fair stole on two a strike of stole
in one, and if you don't get a spare it
then you get a third chance to knock down the
main pins.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Right, so you would get a tanner, get a ten.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
You don't get to add and I don't know how
to do the bullet.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, the all right, all right, very good, very good?
Are you good at it? Where did you go? Where
did you go? Duck pin bowling?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You can go, and so the lady prior to me,
there is still a place in I think aspen Hill,
Silver Spring. It's in the basement of a shopping center.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You still go there?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Were.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I was there with my kids last month.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Are you in the league? No, okay, all right, very good,
very good.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
That came across as negative, but no, I'm not alie.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It did one last thing doing.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It is it's very popular with kids because you can
chuck the ball right?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That fast? Hey do you know Colton Goo? I do not?
Speaker 5 (13:44):
All right, very good, very good, Thank you, sir, thank you, Yes,
Tom brum Bill.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
There is a speakeasy that has duck pin bowling where
I live in Alpharetta.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
The Are you serious? Oh? Wow? Do they know Colton Goo?
Speaker 9 (13:59):
Are you sure you're pronouncing it crackly?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
G u E?
Speaker 9 (14:05):
I wouldn't say that's definitely goo? What is I've said
that before?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Or what is it? Is this like like gooey duck?
Speaker 9 (14:12):
They're Gway?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
It's not Gway, you know because they're from Hagerstown. You
think you grow up in Hagerstown and you're the Gway family.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
No, you're the goose.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
Missus goo mister.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
You think in the hagars Has town they're running around?
Oh are the Gways coming today?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Line?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
What did you say? Line three?
Speaker 12 (14:40):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Elliott in the morning? Hill, I am well, thank you? Who
are you.
Speaker 11 (14:46):
Jerry, I used to I used to duckin in a
league going growing up in middle school. We did it
every week and the and he's right, and he's right.
There's three three balls per frame. Uh, it's it's a
little different. You reference candlepin candlepin, and you leave the
wood in the lanes and you can't continue the bowl
with the wood. But they clean it up after every ball,
(15:09):
so it is a little more, uh trickier to get
it down. The score scores are lower, sir, I gotta
be on. I have no idea what you're talking about.
I got wood in the lane.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I have.
Speaker 11 (15:20):
Yeah, you got some wood in the lane. You got
your balls in the lane and wooden lane too. Nod
the pins. The pins they don't pick up on candlepin.
They leave in the lane and you continue to bowl
with them.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
In Okay, can action candle What is candle You're you're
saying candlepin, like everybody knows what it is.
Speaker 11 (15:40):
Well, candlepin is is is you know, it's just like
tenpin or or a duck pin, but.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's just straight.
Speaker 11 (15:47):
It's it's a straight piece of wood that you hit down.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
They're just straight.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh so Tyler just pulled up a pick. I got it.
They're shaped like candles, like just real thin candles.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Never seen those, No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, never never heard of.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
The duck pin.
Speaker 10 (16:04):
The duck pin.
Speaker 11 (16:05):
I've seen it now, the more minor one they have,
you know, a rope, a piece of string to it's short,
lean and it's just kind of more like a smaller game, right.
But the duck pin, yeah, it is the fun game.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And where'd you where'd you?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
You said that you were on your middle school uh
league team? Congrats? By the way, where where did you
grow up? I grew up in Roland, Rhode Island?
Speaker 8 (16:31):
I got see this says that's candlepin is like a
New England thing. Real portions of eastern Canada.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Is candle is candlepin like real rich like they're like
they're the Guay's played candlepin, the goose played duck pin.
Thank you, I dude, I appreciate. I should have asked
me if he knows Colton.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
Look at this.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
This is from Instagram. Uh that is her grandmother's duck
pin ball.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
And she's held on to it.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Is that like a like an heirloom?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
This this may be a photo not suggesting that grandma
has passed.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
Oh but that's just maybe Grandma lives with her.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I mean it's nice looking. I mean it looks like
a small bowling ball where she's got giant hands.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
More of a.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Compliment than you've ever paid to Mike Jones and his wife.
You made fun of all their gear because remember he
had the warm up ball too, the foam warm up ball.
Speaker 9 (17:35):
Like the special club.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Right, and you know what, he didn't have friends? Hi
Elliott in the morning, the mourner. Hey, who's this Danny?
Speaker 12 (17:45):
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Danny? I'm doing great? Thank you? Were you a duck pinballer?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Wait, oh wait you know Colton?
Speaker 12 (17:55):
Yeah, our kids, our sons are bowling in a national turn.
But just wee getting together.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Thank you? Is it am I saying his last name?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Right?
Speaker 12 (18:01):
Is it Goo?
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, of course because he's from Ayerstown. Of course you.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Hey, so, so you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Colton Goo is a stud at duck pin bowling.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
Thanks. Pretty good, Pretty good.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
He just broke a thirty six year old bowling record.
Speaker 12 (18:25):
Well, I don't want to pull it out and rub
it on my cheeks, but he's pretty good. Okay, I
don't want to be too too nice.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
So but wait a minute, now, I did I did
read you have any meetings today?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The yeah, I do actually have a big one with
Aaron today. Write that down.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
But you know what I want to practice, so it
sounds comfortable, I'll work it in a couple of times
during the show.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
The So wait a minute.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
So because I was reading, I was reading this article
about Colton Goo, right, and that he had set this
thirty six year old Colton's not even thirty six years
old himself, he's thirty one.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
No, he's a young boy.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
He's a young boy, right, but he he broke this
world record. But it did say I guess his grandparents
were duck pin bowlers. His his parents were duck pin bowlers.
He's a duck pin bowler. And now he's passing it
on to his kid.
Speaker 12 (19:20):
But are you anybody that bowls pretty much? Their whole
family balls?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Usually?
Speaker 12 (19:24):
Oh friends, Anyway, there's only a few people to do it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Hey, the.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Just real quick, because I forgot the first part of
it is that I don't want to pull it out and.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
Rub it on myself.
Speaker 12 (19:34):
You don't want to pull that rub on your cheek.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
I told you, write it down.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Yeah, I know, but I'm also trying to talk, and
all I want to keep doing is writing. So wait,
So if your kid and his kid are playing in
a national tournament, both of them are pretty good.
Speaker 12 (19:54):
Okay, only ten, ten and nine, I think, Yeah, they
want a prep division. And they bowled against teams against Connecticut,
Rhode Island, Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Where is the where is the where's the national tournament?
This weekend?
Speaker 12 (20:09):
So South wream f Southwest and Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh wow, you know what? Good for you? How do
I track How do I track down? Mister Goo?
Speaker 12 (20:20):
I'm so I'm surprised somebody hasn't told him. I could
probably get my wife the message England.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah yeah, tell him to shoot over a text so
I can get in touch with Colton Goo.
Speaker 12 (20:32):
Yeah, hi, I'll tell I'll tell her right, she's probably listening.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
All right, Very good, very good.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Hey, good luck to your kid, uh this weekend at
the at the national tournament.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Hey, you got it, don't for good?
Speaker 12 (20:43):
Don't forget to pull it out and rub it on
your cheeks later on.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay, we'll do right, You'll have a nice eating.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
Call of the day. It's eight o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 13 (20:53):
I don't want two pull it out and rub it
on my cheeks and rub it on my cheeks, my cheeks.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Anyway, I'm sorry. It looks like you have a message
for me.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
We've heard from Mike Jones.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Oh.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
Yes, my brother and I were on the high school
intramural duck pin championship team.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Sweet so I had friends.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
It's shibbling.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's a sibling friend.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
And the good news was he didn't miss any sleepovers
in order to be able to do that. So anyway,
I'm reading about Colton Goo. On June twenty eighth, Hagar'stown's
own Colton Goo broke a duck pin bowling record that
was older than himself. He says, I wasn't keeping track
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of my average and my total, but never put any
effort into looking at the records. I was just out
there bowling, and when I was done, they told me
I broke the nine game world record.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 12 (22:07):
Now?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
It says he set the National duck Pin Bowling Congress
world record for a nine game set with a score
of one thousand, five hundred and sixty three, which obviously
is good it's a world record. But if I were
to go, like, for example, I know a perfect game
of bowling is three hundred.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
If I just went with friends, I'd probably bowl around one.
Speaker 9 (22:35):
Hundred friends or siblings.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
To clarify for my no, no, but you know what
I mean, Like, if I just went and like if
I just if we just went right, we all go
back to Uptown Alley, I would bet i'd get close
to one hundred. Maybe I'm in the eighties, Maybe I'm
in the nineties. If I played a nine game set
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where Colton got one five hundred and sixty three, am
I getting nine hundred? Am I getting twelve hundred? Am
I getting four hundred?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Like? Is it like I hear that and go, dude,
that world record hasn't been broken in thirty six years.
But does everybody just kind of sniff around it? It's
just you can't get it.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Well, I's toe hear that he won the oldest continuously
running duckbin tournament in sports history.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Wait, who did good, Colton?
Speaker 11 (23:33):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Oh yeah, oh sorry, Colton, I didn't know you were
on a first day basis. Uh, but he averaged over
those twelve games a one fifty eight.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
What do I average.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Beginners and casual players can expect to score around seventy
to one hundred, And they said good people would somebody
who's very skilled would score between one and sixty.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
What was what was in fifty eight? Oh wow, so
he's very good. Well he's the world record holder, world
record holder.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
We are being told that at Guy Fieri's Downtown Flavor
toown Pigeon Forge. Good god, they have fourteen lively lanes
of duck pin bowling.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Hi, Elliott the Morning Criter.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah, Hi, I've been in a duckpin league for about
fifteen years with my family.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh really.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, currently still doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Important to point out with family, not with friends. What
is where do you? Where do you? Where do you?
Duck pin bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Down in dundalf So it's kind of like an offshoot
of Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
It's a big Baltimore heavy thing and it is significantly
hard than ten pin.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Bowling, is it?
Speaker 14 (24:54):
Really?
Speaker 9 (24:55):
Look at the score?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah. I don't think there's ever been a perfect game
in duck pin Bowlie, Yes there.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Has, Yes, come on, there's been more.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You look it up.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
You look it up.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I don't need to.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
There's never been there has never been. Yeah, but the
scoring is different. So a perfect game is three hundred.
What's a perfect game in duckpins ball?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Three hundred? How is that possible? It's scored completely different.
Speaker 9 (25:26):
He's right, there has never been a perfect game.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Stop it down it okay, Hey, well listen, I don't
want to pull it out and rub it on my cheeks.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
All right, dude, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Thank you, Thank you, my friend Line six, hi Ellie
in the morning.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Hey, what's yes, sir? Who's this? This is hey Max?
Real quick? What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Well?
Speaker 10 (25:57):
I just told my thun though I was gonna say
no to the bowl, the perfect game in duck and bowling. Uh,
the pins are a lot smaller than tent thin, and
they're actually spread further apart, and the lanes are longer
and narrower, so it's actually a lot more tricky to
actually to strike than it is intented.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
But you know what, you know what seems counterintuitive there
to me is it seems like it seems like, just
because of the ball, you can just whip the s
out of that thing and just not pins over just
from sheer velocity.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
Yeah, I mean it's true, you would think that, but
you hold the ball in your in your palm of
your hand, there's no holes, right, But just the way
that the way they're set up is a lot harder
actually to knock like.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Them all down.
Speaker 10 (26:47):
You can get you can get like a lot of
speed because you can just like throw down the a
the alley, but because the way they're set up and
they're smaller and they're further apart than tenpin, it actually
is harder to knock.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Them down, interesting them all down. Do you do you
play duck pin bowling?
Speaker 10 (27:05):
I used to, uh be, I wasn't the league myself
quite a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Where where are you from? Where are you from?
Speaker 10 (27:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm from England.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
Originally we've actually I've been on the air a couple
of times, so we we've spoken. But I'm from England.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
But did you did you duck I guess you remember Elliott. No.
What I'm trying to.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
I can tell if you were Simon or mel the.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
The No, I'm trying to figure out, Like is it
is is duck pin bowling?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Were you were you doing duck pin bowling in England? Like?
Is it international?
Speaker 10 (27:38):
I mean just play all over the world. No, I
was playing I was playing in America.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Oh, I got you, I got you, and yes, of
course I remember you. All right, very good, very good?
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Can I got a tea shop?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, of course you can another one? All right? Hold
on one second, Hold on one second.
Speaker 10 (27:53):
I'll do didn't the last time?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Okay, hold on one second, I don't remember cheers.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
What about Diane's one duck challenge?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
But she but she'd never get a strike.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Its no, we stay until she rolls a three hundred.
We don't leave until she gets a perfect game.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Hey, where did the entire show die?
Speaker 9 (28:18):
Mount Airy?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Hi?
Speaker 14 (28:19):
Elliott in the morning, Good morning, Elliott's Jay and Fairfax.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yes, real quickly, Jay, What can I do for you?
Speaker 14 (28:27):
My aunt is in the World Hall of Fame for
ductun bowling. She used to play on a tour. She
used to go around not only the Northeast, but it
is up into Canada. I think the Hall of Fame
web page is based in Canada. But she was a
math teacher in Baltimore. She's retired now, but she in
her youth was quite the ducton bowler and is in
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Are you serious?
Speaker 14 (28:50):
Yeah? Yeah, that's one of the first things I learned.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Dude, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
So there is a is the is wait, Tyler's got
pulled up?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Is the dut is? Is there like a brick and mortar.
Speaker 14 (29:03):
I don't know if there's a brick and mortar because,
like I said, it's it's further north and I've ever
gone to visit. But my wife is very excited about
her aunt's career back in the past.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
Wow, what was the ant's first name?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
What was what was your aunt's first name?
Speaker 14 (29:20):
Anita?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Anita?
Speaker 14 (29:22):
And she was in a mixed doubles team too. I
think she was really well known for being on the.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Mixed double Does she know Colton Goo?
Speaker 14 (29:31):
I don't know if she's eighty or so now. And
we've still in the Baltimore area. It is really a
biggest thing in Baltimore. But the first time I played
was in Falls Church. The bowling alley in False Church
used to have some of its lanes assigned as Duckton Bowling.
That phased out back a while ago, but back in
the nineties I can remember duck and bowling at the
bowling alley right there in False Church?
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Was it the old the old bowling alley and Falls
Church where I just remembered the entry and exit was horrible,
and I used to just of the curb and drive
through the grass exactly.
Speaker 14 (30:03):
It was kind of in that little triangle there where.
Speaker 9 (30:06):
Together is aunt Anita's last name? Does it begin with
an R?
Speaker 14 (30:12):
It does?
Speaker 9 (30:13):
Yes, she was inducted in ninety one.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Wow, how about that insted.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Here in the Hall of Fame superior performance? Who did
her induction?
Speaker 14 (30:23):
I do not know that. It's been a while be
since I went to the web page and read.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Her right up, all right, very good, very good. I
appreciate it, Thank you, sir, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
No, it really is. That would have been the last
thing I was expecting.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
The greatest achievement in any sport is to be recognized
by your peers, of course, absolutely, and duck pin bowling
is no exception.
When is the last time you went bowling?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We were just.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Talking about bowling.
Speaker 4 (00:06):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
It's been a minute though, it's been a while.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
What were you talking about bowling? Like you need to go?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yeah, we were talking about someplace it was he was
so special and that we hadn't been for a really
long time.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I think the is it? Well, I didn't bowl there.
Speaker 5 (00:21):
The last time I was at a bowling alley was
Uptown Alley when Diane Yea with her one her one
ball challenge or one strike challenge right, well she got
it on one ball whatever. But I think that was
the last time I was. Now, that is the last
time Diane bowled for sure. When Kim, now, when you
when you do bowl? Are you a regular bowler or
(00:42):
a can I can I use a term that I'll
be very honest, I've heard of the term, but I
don't know what it is at all. Like if if
somebody said explain, like I can explain bowling to somebody,
not well, but I at least know what bowling is,
I would not be able to explain what is duck
pin bowl.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
With what duck tin bowling?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Duck pin bowling?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Is it duck pin bowling when they have like the
guardrails or something. No, that's you can't lose.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
No, that's for like like like kids the well, yeah,
or just people. I can't bowl where it just it
doesn't go straight? What is duck pin bowling?
Speaker 7 (01:22):
Yeah? I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I cannot explain that you've heard it.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
You've heard it your whole life of like, yeah, of
course you have. CHRISTI will you do me a favor?
Will you I can find somebody who does duck pin bowling.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
I feel like over the years it's been mentioned. Yeah,
we've never really explored it.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I'll tell you, I've even I have probably said duck
pin bowling, not like you're just talking about it. But
I have no idea what it is. I have no
clue what it is. Krista, will you do me a favor?
Will you find me somebody who knows what duck pin
bowling is? Or maybe somebody who does duck pin bowling
like Mike Jones, he's he bowls in a league?
Speaker 7 (02:01):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Why do I with with with missus Jones?
Speaker 8 (02:04):
But regular bullet like I always associate duck pin bowling
with like kid's birthday parties.
Speaker 9 (02:10):
For I always thought it was.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I always I always tied it.
Speaker 8 (02:14):
But why do I always think of it as being
like a kid's activity.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Because you don't know what it is?
Speaker 9 (02:18):
So is it on?
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Because now you've got me thinking it's going to be
one of those arcade versions of bowling and ski ball
that have no that have the string is attached to
all the pins. No, and then they get all tangled
if you a bullet too hard?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
No, but buck? What duck?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Pin?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Bowling?
Speaker 10 (02:37):
Fuck?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Pin?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Isn't it just regular? Well it's not regular bowling, or
they would just call it bowling. But isn't duck? I
don't know what it is. I don't even know why
I'm trying to say, isn't it? I just thought the ball?
The ball is smaller.
Speaker 9 (02:50):
I have smaller balls.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
And aren't the pins like sort of squad like, like
shorter and fatter like wider?
Speaker 9 (02:58):
So is it? Is it? That's why I associated with kids?
Because it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's not kids, it's and it's not. Why is it easier?
What makes it easier?
Speaker 9 (03:06):
Because the pins are bigger?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You just said they're small, No.
Speaker 8 (03:09):
But shorter and wider? I mean, so the pins are fat?
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Yeah, that's what I thought how could anything be easier
than what you accomplished? We thought we were going to
be had uptown for.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
We were wondering what do we do at two am
when they close?
Speaker 9 (03:28):
Mad?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah? No, and Diane throws it in one in one shot?
Where am I going? Christen line five? Thank you? Hi
elliot in the morning.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Hi, I'm here to talk about the ducksman bowling.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes? Are you an adult?
Speaker 8 (03:45):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (03:45):
No, I'm a kid?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Are you really? How old are you?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I'm thirteen?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Wow? Is well? I hope you had a good bar mitzvah?
Are are is duck pin bowling for kids? No?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
No, not really?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Are you you in? Do you duck pin bowl?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Sometimes with my dad?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
What is what is duck pin bowling compared to regular bowling?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Or which should you not even compare the two?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
I mean, with my experiences, the balls are smaller, uh,
the lane is uh center, and the pins are smaller.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Wait? What do you mean the lanes is center thinner?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Thinner?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Thinner? Okay?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Is it harder a little bit shorter?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Is it harder or or easier than regular bowling?
Speaker 6 (04:36):
I think it's a little bit easier in my experience.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
What is the scoring? Is it if? Is it the
same scoring?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Yeah, it's about the same as normal bowling.
Speaker 9 (04:48):
Are you are you number of pins?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Oh yeah, that's a good question. Do same thing? Nine pins,
ten pins?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Yeah, it's the same amount of pins as normal bowling.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
So everything is set up the same. You don't have
to call it normal bawl, just bowling. But it's so
everything is set up the same, it just looks different.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, all right, very good. How often do you bowl?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I do it like once a month with my dad.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Sweet. You know what good for you? Good for you?
Speaker 9 (05:17):
Is the alley only duck pin?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Good question. Do you have to go to a special
bowling alley for it?
Speaker 11 (05:23):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah, most of the time.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
What I've never even seen like a duckpin bowling alley.
Why don't you tell that person to be quiet we're talking.
I don't care who it is. That's rude. I'm trying
to have a conversation the two of us, and she
keeps button in.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
All right, very good, Yeah, I know, I know. All right, dude. Hey, listen,
I appreciate the phone call. Thank you for the end.
And you want to say, butthole, Uh, I'm good, okay,
all right, very good.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Thank you. I'm great.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
I was about to make fun of the moming your
dad mentioned me.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
A great ending that call line, sah, hi Elliott the.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Morning, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 12 (06:10):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I am doing great? Thank you. Are you a duck
pin bowler?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I am not. But my parents met when they played
in a league fifty plus years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
They were in a duck pin bowling league.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yes, and for mine, I'm thirty nine now. In my
entire life, my dad said that duck pin bowling was
real bowling, and that was the harder of the bowling
because you have the ball of the size of basically
like a softball, maybe a little bit bigger, and like
the last caller, it is still ten pins, so it's
hard to knock it down. Harder is in his opinion.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Well, I can understand that are the are the but
you can't go to a bowling alley.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You have to go to a duck pin bowling alley.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, there was actually I don't know if it's still there,
but there was one on New Hampshire Avenue. You know
where the Boston Market was on New Hampshire Avenue.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
No, I know exactly where that is. I missed Boston Market,
you know, that.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
There was one in only at one point.
Speaker 9 (07:11):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That was that was that was my go to. That
was my go to.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I loved a Carver sandwich. Anyway, I'm sorry. Back to bowling.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Back to bowling.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
So there was a dust and bowling alley there you
would go in and he had to go down into
the basement like in the little strip mall there. So
like we want a handfull of times when I was
growing up, I'm not a professional, but yes, my parents
funny enough, they used to be in a league. I
remember the trophy, seeing the trophies when I was a
kid that they had in the house.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Interesting, what was the what was their team?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I have not a clue.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
My dad's nickname was beer Can growing up or not
growing up, but he was a he was a PG
County cop.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And his nickname was beer Can.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Awesome, all right, very good, very good. I appreciate it,
Thank you. So do they all have like in their
teenage or like who gives a duck duck?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
You hope?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So what is then.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
If we went to like at Uptown Alley, did they
have duckpin bowling there? But we just didn't see it
like I didn't go into the basement.
Speaker 9 (08:14):
Is there a speakeasy nature?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Oh? No?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (08:18):
Okay, oh you.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Think there are people lined up trying to get in
for duckpin bowling.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
Everyone is saying and agreeing that it is much harder
than traditional bowling.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
Okay, duck bowl, traditional.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Bull No, which bowling first? Bowling? You sure, yes, I'm
not but yes.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Well no, wouldn't you also assume that if duck pin
came first, it well no, but it would be the
more popular. Like duck pin bowling is not as popular
as bowling.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
There are forms of sport that came first.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
And then the New Age version is today what we
think of it being only in its existence?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Well, I have my pen out, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
Well you know there were peach baskets instead of nets.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Okay, where am I going? Hi?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Elliott the morning, Hey, good morning, This is Donna calling
from Beaverdown.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And when I went to Mary Washington in the graduating
in nineteen eighty eight, we used to go to Rebel
Bowl in Fredericksburg into Fine Knowledge. It's still there.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
For and that was it strictly duck pin bowling.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, it's just duck pin bowling.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
The bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
It's like, I can see why you reference ski ball
because it's a smaller brown ball. And yeah, it's just
duck pin bowling.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And it is it hard? Is it hard to like?
I don't want to say, is it hard to learn?
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Because if it's just regular bowling but smaller in the lanes, narrower,
it seems like it would be maybe the skill difference
is there, But in terms of everything else, it's exactly
the same.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yes, I mean, I think it's easier because the ball
is lighter. I mean, and you just I mean, it
depends on how you throw, but I always thought it
was easier.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I feel like i'd throw overhand, whip it right there?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Are there even finger holes in the ball?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You just palm it?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (10:23):
Two roles per frame.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Sounds right now?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
When you were a long time ago, Yeah, but you were.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
You were obviously into it a little bit, do you know,
Colton goo? No?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Okay, very good, All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am,
thank you.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
I have to explain to Diane, if you don't get
a strike, you do get a second roll. By the way,
bad news from the Facebook group Friends of Rebel Bull.
Oh no, Rebel Bull was a local duck pin bowling
alley that off a family atmosphere and created a lifetime
of friendships.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But it's close. Yeah, yes, Look how dated that building is.
Speaker 9 (11:07):
What is that picture from the sixties.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's an old looking building.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
It's a cool logo, the line six Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, Hi, who's this.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Keith calling from motafeo?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Oh yes, Keith? Are you hip to duck pin bowling?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I am. I used to do it a lot as
a kid. It's really popular in Baltimore and Philly. It's
in mid Atlantic stat Okay, I mean there is a
really big difference that no one's mentioning.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Can I jump in just for one second? Can I
excuse me? I just want to just want to jump
in for one second. I've lived in Philly and I've
lived here and I have never once even been or
no duck pin bowling. So like if you said, oh,
cheese steaks, it's a big Philly thing, I would agree
with you. Okay, yeah, wah wah, I'm right there with you.
Tasty cakes. Absolutely, dug pin bowling is not massive.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's true, but bigger in Baltimore than sorry, northeast of Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Okay, all right, very good, very good. What were you
going to tell me? There was something that nobody's mentioned.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That you use three balls per round?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Huh versus two in ten pin?
Speaker 9 (12:22):
Oh three rolls instead of two?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Correct, So you.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Get three three rolls to get a strike or a
spare as opposed to two.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's still one first strike, two first spare, and you
get a third chance to get ten pins.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh so instead of oh so that changes the scoring?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Correct? Correct? What is that's the biggest difference? Well, no,
because of a spare. That's where you could draw the line.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Through the fair stole on two a strike of stole
in one, and if you don't get a spare it
then you get a third chance to knock down the
main pins.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Right, so you would get a tanner, get a ten.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
You don't get to add and I don't know how
to do the bullet.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, the all right, all right, very good, very good?
Are you good at it? Where did you go? Where
did you go? Duck pin bowling?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You can go, and so the lady prior to me,
there is still a place in I think aspen Hill,
Silver Spring. It's in the basement of a shopping center.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You still go there?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Were.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I was there with my kids last month.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Are you in the league? No, okay, all right, very good,
very good.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
That came across as negative, but no, I'm not alie.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It did one last thing doing.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It is it's very popular with kids because you can
chuck the ball right?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That fast? Hey do you know Colton Goo? I do not?
Speaker 5 (13:44):
All right, very good, very good, Thank you, sir, thank you, Yes,
Tom brum Bill.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
There is a speakeasy that has duck pin bowling where
I live in Alpharetta.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
The Are you serious? Oh? Wow? Do they know Colton Goo?
Speaker 9 (13:59):
Are you sure you're pronouncing it crackly?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
G u E?
Speaker 9 (14:05):
I wouldn't say that's definitely goo? What is I've said
that before?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Or what is it? Is this like like gooey duck?
Speaker 9 (14:12):
They're Gway?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
It's not Gway, you know because they're from Hagerstown. You
think you grow up in Hagerstown and you're the Gway family.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
No, you're the goose.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
Missus goo mister.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
You think in the hagars Has town they're running around?
Oh are the Gways coming today?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Line?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
What did you say? Line three?
Speaker 12 (14:40):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Elliott in the morning? Hill, I am well, thank you? Who
are you.
Speaker 11 (14:46):
Jerry, I used to I used to duckin in a
league going growing up in middle school. We did it
every week and the and he's right, and he's right.
There's three three balls per frame. Uh, it's it's a
little different. You reference candlepin candlepin, and you leave the
wood in the lanes and you can't continue the bowl
with the wood. But they clean it up after every ball,
(15:09):
so it is a little more, uh trickier to get
it down. The score scores are lower, sir, I gotta
be on. I have no idea what you're talking about.
I got wood in the lane.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I have.
Speaker 11 (15:20):
Yeah, you got some wood in the lane. You got
your balls in the lane and wooden lane too. Nod
the pins. The pins they don't pick up on candlepin.
They leave in the lane and you continue to bowl
with them.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
In Okay, can action candle What is candle You're you're
saying candlepin, like everybody knows what it is.
Speaker 11 (15:40):
Well, candlepin is is is you know, it's just like
tenpin or or a duck pin, but.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's just straight.
Speaker 11 (15:47):
It's it's a straight piece of wood that you hit down.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
They're just straight.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh so Tyler just pulled up a pick. I got it.
They're shaped like candles, like just real thin candles.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Never seen those, No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, never never heard of.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
The duck pin.
Speaker 10 (16:04):
The duck pin.
Speaker 11 (16:05):
I've seen it now, the more minor one they have,
you know, a rope, a piece of string to it's short,
lean and it's just kind of more like a smaller game, right.
But the duck pin, yeah, it is the fun game.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And where'd you where'd you?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
You said that you were on your middle school uh
league team? Congrats? By the way, where where did you
grow up? I grew up in Roland, Rhode Island?
Speaker 8 (16:31):
I got see this says that's candlepin is like a
New England thing. Real portions of eastern Canada.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Is candle is candlepin like real rich like they're like
they're the Guay's played candlepin, the goose played duck pin.
Thank you, I dude, I appreciate. I should have asked
me if he knows Colton.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
Look at this.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
This is from Instagram. Uh that is her grandmother's duck
pin ball.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
And she's held on to it.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Is that like a like an heirloom?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
This this may be a photo not suggesting that grandma
has passed.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
Oh but that's just maybe Grandma lives with her.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I mean it's nice looking. I mean it looks like
a small bowling ball where she's got giant hands.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
More of a.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Compliment than you've ever paid to Mike Jones and his wife.
You made fun of all their gear because remember he
had the warm up ball too, the foam warm up ball.
Speaker 9 (17:35):
Like the special club.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Right, and you know what, he didn't have friends? Hi
Elliott in the morning, the mourner. Hey, who's this Danny?
Speaker 12 (17:45):
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Danny? I'm doing great? Thank you? Were you a duck pinballer?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Wait, oh wait you know Colton?
Speaker 12 (17:55):
Yeah, our kids, our sons are bowling in a national turn.
But just wee getting together.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Thank you? Is it am I saying his last name?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Right?
Speaker 12 (18:01):
Is it Goo?
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, of course because he's from Ayerstown. Of course you.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Hey, so, so you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Colton Goo is a stud at duck pin bowling.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
Thanks. Pretty good, Pretty good.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
He just broke a thirty six year old bowling record.
Speaker 12 (18:25):
Well, I don't want to pull it out and rub
it on my cheeks, but he's pretty good. Okay, I
don't want to be too too nice.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
So but wait a minute, now, I did I did
read you have any meetings today?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The yeah, I do actually have a big one with
Aaron today. Write that down.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
But you know what I want to practice, so it
sounds comfortable, I'll work it in a couple of times
during the show.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
The So wait a minute.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
So because I was reading, I was reading this article
about Colton Goo, right, and that he had set this
thirty six year old Colton's not even thirty six years
old himself, he's thirty one.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
No, he's a young boy.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
He's a young boy, right, but he he broke this
world record. But it did say I guess his grandparents
were duck pin bowlers. His his parents were duck pin bowlers.
He's a duck pin bowler. And now he's passing it
on to his kid.
Speaker 12 (19:20):
But are you anybody that bowls pretty much? Their whole
family balls?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Usually?
Speaker 12 (19:24):
Oh friends, Anyway, there's only a few people to do it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Hey, the.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Just real quick, because I forgot the first part of
it is that I don't want to pull it out and.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
Rub it on myself.
Speaker 12 (19:34):
You don't want to pull that rub on your cheek.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
I told you, write it down.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Yeah, I know, but I'm also trying to talk, and
all I want to keep doing is writing. So wait,
So if your kid and his kid are playing in
a national tournament, both of them are pretty good.
Speaker 12 (19:54):
Okay, only ten, ten and nine, I think, Yeah, they
want a prep division. And they bowled against teams against Connecticut,
Rhode Island, Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Where is the where is the where's the national tournament?
This weekend?
Speaker 12 (20:09):
So South wream f Southwest and Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh wow, you know what? Good for you? How do
I track How do I track down? Mister Goo?
Speaker 12 (20:20):
I'm so I'm surprised somebody hasn't told him. I could
probably get my wife the message England.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah yeah, tell him to shoot over a text so
I can get in touch with Colton Goo.
Speaker 12 (20:32):
Yeah, hi, I'll tell I'll tell her right, she's probably listening.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
All right, Very good, very good.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Hey, good luck to your kid, uh this weekend at
the at the national tournament.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Hey, you got it, don't for good?
Speaker 12 (20:43):
Don't forget to pull it out and rub it on
your cheeks later on.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay, we'll do right, You'll have a nice eating.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
Call of the day. It's eight o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 13 (20:53):
I don't want two pull it out and rub it
on my cheeks and rub it on my cheeks, my cheeks.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Anyway, I'm sorry. It looks like you have a message
for me.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
We've heard from Mike Jones.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Oh.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
Yes, my brother and I were on the high school
intramural duck pin championship team.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Sweet so I had friends.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
It's shibbling.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's a sibling friend.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
And the good news was he didn't miss any sleepovers
in order to be able to do that. So anyway,
I'm reading about Colton Goo. On June twenty eighth, Hagar'stown's
own Colton Goo broke a duck pin bowling record that
was older than himself. He says, I wasn't keeping track
(21:52):
of my average and my total, but never put any
effort into looking at the records. I was just out
there bowling, and when I was done, they told me
I broke the nine game world record.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 12 (22:07):
Now?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
It says he set the National duck Pin Bowling Congress
world record for a nine game set with a score
of one thousand, five hundred and sixty three, which obviously
is good it's a world record. But if I were
to go, like, for example, I know a perfect game
of bowling is three hundred.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
If I just went with friends, I'd probably bowl around one.
Speaker 9 (22:35):
Hundred friends or siblings.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
To clarify for my no, no, but you know what
I mean, Like, if I just went and like if
I just if we just went right, we all go
back to Uptown Alley, I would bet i'd get close
to one hundred. Maybe I'm in the eighties, Maybe I'm
in the nineties. If I played a nine game set
(23:02):
where Colton got one five hundred and sixty three, am
I getting nine hundred? Am I getting twelve hundred? Am
I getting four hundred?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Like? Is it like I hear that and go, dude,
that world record hasn't been broken in thirty six years.
But does everybody just kind of sniff around it? It's
just you can't get it.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Well, I's toe hear that he won the oldest continuously
running duckbin tournament in sports history.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Wait, who did good, Colton?
Speaker 11 (23:33):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Oh yeah, oh sorry, Colton, I didn't know you were
on a first day basis. Uh, but he averaged over
those twelve games a one fifty eight.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
What do I average.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Beginners and casual players can expect to score around seventy
to one hundred, And they said good people would somebody
who's very skilled would score between one and sixty.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
What was what was in fifty eight? Oh wow, so
he's very good. Well he's the world record holder, world
record holder.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
We are being told that at Guy Fieri's Downtown Flavor
toown Pigeon Forge. Good god, they have fourteen lively lanes
of duck pin bowling.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Hi, Elliott the Morning Criter.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah, Hi, I've been in a duckpin league for about
fifteen years with my family.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh really.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, currently still doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Important to point out with family, not with friends. What
is where do you? Where do you? Where do you?
Duck pin bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Down in dundalf So it's kind of like an offshoot
of Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
It's a big Baltimore heavy thing and it is significantly
hard than ten pin.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Bowling, is it?
Speaker 14 (24:54):
Really?
Speaker 9 (24:55):
Look at the score?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah. I don't think there's ever been a perfect game
in duck pin Bowlie, Yes there.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Has, Yes, come on, there's been more.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You look it up.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
You look it up.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I don't need to.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
There's never been there has never been. Yeah, but the
scoring is different. So a perfect game is three hundred.
What's a perfect game in duckpins ball?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Three hundred? How is that possible? It's scored completely different.
Speaker 9 (25:26):
He's right, there has never been a perfect game.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Stop it down it okay, Hey, well listen, I don't
want to pull it out and rub it on my cheeks.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
All right, dude, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Thank you, Thank you, my friend Line six, hi Ellie
in the morning.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Hey, what's yes, sir? Who's this? This is hey Max?
Real quick? What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Well?
Speaker 10 (25:57):
I just told my thun though I was gonna say
no to the bowl, the perfect game in duck and bowling. Uh,
the pins are a lot smaller than tent thin, and
they're actually spread further apart, and the lanes are longer
and narrower, so it's actually a lot more tricky to
actually to strike than it is intented.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
But you know what, you know what seems counterintuitive there
to me is it seems like it seems like, just
because of the ball, you can just whip the s
out of that thing and just not pins over just
from sheer velocity.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
Yeah, I mean it's true, you would think that, but
you hold the ball in your in your palm of
your hand, there's no holes, right, But just the way
that the way they're set up is a lot harder
actually to knock like.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Them all down.
Speaker 10 (26:47):
You can get you can get like a lot of
speed because you can just like throw down the a
the alley, but because the way they're set up and
they're smaller and they're further apart than tenpin, it actually
is harder to knock.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Them down, interesting them all down. Do you do you
play duck pin bowling?
Speaker 10 (27:05):
I used to, uh be, I wasn't the league myself
quite a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Where where are you from? Where are you from?
Speaker 10 (27:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm from England.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
Originally we've actually I've been on the air a couple
of times, so we we've spoken. But I'm from England.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
But did you did you duck I guess you remember Elliott. No.
What I'm trying to.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
I can tell if you were Simon or mel the.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
The No, I'm trying to figure out, Like is it
is is duck pin bowling?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Were you were you doing duck pin bowling in England? Like?
Is it international?
Speaker 10 (27:38):
I mean just play all over the world. No, I
was playing I was playing in America.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Oh, I got you, I got you, and yes, of
course I remember you. All right, very good, very good?
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Can I got a tea shop?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, of course you can another one? All right? Hold
on one second, Hold on one second.
Speaker 10 (27:53):
I'll do didn't the last time?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Okay, hold on one second, I don't remember cheers.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
What about Diane's one duck challenge?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
But she but she'd never get a strike.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Its no, we stay until she rolls a three hundred.
We don't leave until she gets a perfect game.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Hey, where did the entire show die?
Speaker 9 (28:18):
Mount Airy?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Hi?
Speaker 14 (28:19):
Elliott in the morning, Good morning, Elliott's Jay and Fairfax.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yes, real quickly, Jay, What can I do for you?
Speaker 14 (28:27):
My aunt is in the World Hall of Fame for
ductun bowling. She used to play on a tour. She
used to go around not only the Northeast, but it
is up into Canada. I think the Hall of Fame
web page is based in Canada. But she was a
math teacher in Baltimore. She's retired now, but she in
her youth was quite the ducton bowler and is in
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Are you serious?
Speaker 14 (28:50):
Yeah? Yeah, that's one of the first things I learned.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Dude, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
So there is a is the is wait, Tyler's got
pulled up?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Is the dut is? Is there like a brick and mortar.
Speaker 14 (29:03):
I don't know if there's a brick and mortar because,
like I said, it's it's further north and I've ever
gone to visit. But my wife is very excited about
her aunt's career back in the past.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
Wow, what was the ant's first name?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
What was what was your aunt's first name?
Speaker 14 (29:20):
Anita?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Anita?
Speaker 14 (29:22):
And she was in a mixed doubles team too. I
think she was really well known for being on the.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Mixed double Does she know Colton Goo?
Speaker 14 (29:31):
I don't know if she's eighty or so now. And
we've still in the Baltimore area. It is really a
biggest thing in Baltimore. But the first time I played
was in Falls Church. The bowling alley in False Church
used to have some of its lanes assigned as Duckton Bowling.
That phased out back a while ago, but back in
the nineties I can remember duck and bowling at the
bowling alley right there in False Church?
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Was it the old the old bowling alley and Falls
Church where I just remembered the entry and exit was horrible,
and I used to just of the curb and drive
through the grass exactly.
Speaker 14 (30:03):
It was kind of in that little triangle there where.
Speaker 9 (30:06):
Together is aunt Anita's last name? Does it begin with
an R?
Speaker 14 (30:12):
It does?
Speaker 9 (30:13):
Yes, she was inducted in ninety one.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Wow, how about that insted.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Here in the Hall of Fame superior performance? Who did
her induction?
Speaker 14 (30:23):
I do not know that. It's been a while be
since I went to the web page and read.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Her right up, all right, very good, very good. I
appreciate it, Thank you, sir, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
No, it really is. That would have been the last
thing I was expecting.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
The greatest achievement in any sport is to be recognized
by your peers, of course, absolutely, and duck pin bowling
is no exception.
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