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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can we find somebody from Ellicott City please? There was
some story over the weekend, and I don't know how
long it's been going on. Weird the massive peach and
eggplant statues in Ellicott City and they're like up on pedestals.
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They are enormous, enormous.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Are these things that have been placed there by random
artists or are they a part of some sort of
larger project.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I can't tell if it is one shop owner who
has put them up, but I know one of them
is in front of a shop and I can't remember
the shop. But they were talking to the guy. That
guy and when they turned to him, yeah, he was there. No,
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they're massive, but he was like, I don't know like
they were. They were making a joke to him or
reference to him about the the egg plant being a penis,
and he told the reporter, mind does not look like that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
That's the first he's heard of a comparison.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's that was his thing.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It isn't an exact copy of the emoji. I know,
it's more upright, Yeah, the I agree with them.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Look at the size of the peach, the size of that.
So people have now started saved the Peach save the
egg Plant campaigns.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So it looked like just based on what's airing right now,
the eggplant was in front of a wine shop.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, the wine ben Peacher restaurant. Yeah, it's called the
Georgia Grace Cafe.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Oh well that makes well that that does make sense.
But why are but why are people like residents are
losing their mind.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Because they don't like their that there's a small contingent
that wants them gone, Like they're upset and trying to
save it.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
This is Elicant City's version of the transformers.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Sounds like it may be.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
No, I'm being serious, like what is the like why.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Is it leading to too much interest and causing traffic?
And uh possible? Are they claiming that they're safety concerned?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh? Stop, you get that.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
With the transfer?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I know, I know. And and by the way, nobody's
ever been hit on that street.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I want to see. That was such a quick man.
If you search Eggplant and Pietz, you don't get the story.
Now hold on, I better put it in Elicant City.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
The owner of the wind and said that it's is he.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
The one who said that his penis doesn't look like that?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
He said, I don't quite understand the innuendo because I
have one of those body parts and it doesn't look
like that, and it's not purple.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I like that guy. I like that he says it's
good for business. By the way, if I were the reporter,
I would have said, show me how long have they
been up? That's the other part that I don't know,
Like did they just go up? Are the restaurants? Is
the restaurant bar Co owned? Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I don't know. I thought they were different businesses. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So they just both decided to get these big, massive
peach and eggplants.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So this said several months ago, the peach was installed,
and then that's when the eggplant arrived.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Same artists, though right it sounds like it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I mean, they look very similar. The eggplant is not
as big as the peach.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What is the text on the pedestal?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I don't know about the peach. On the eggplant, it
says this shop's owner's penis does not look like that.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It ain't purple?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Am I going to line one? Hi Elliet the.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Morning, Hey, good morning. How are you guys?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Are you from Elegant City.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I have a store in Elegant City and the peach
is actually in front of the restaurant next to my store,
and then the eggplant is across the street up to
the block.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yes, okay, so why is everybody flipping out?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Ultimately, Elegant City has very strict historic guidelines, and outdoor
art doesn't fit those guidelines, is the short answer of it.
And they're not as big as everybody thinks it is.
Like the eggplant itself is maybe three feet tall from
the bottom to the tip of that stock, and then
the teach just seems bigger because it's like a three
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foot diameter.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, it's pretty wide around the beaches.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
The beach looks big.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yes, and that's and so ultimately the real problem is
the connotation of a peach and eggplant. And it's just
funny that those are the two that were installed. But
the artists who did them does a whole series of vegetables,
like there's carrots, there's a tomato. It's just the organization
to put these in Elegant City. Just pick the peach
and egg But now.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I can I ask you this, Like you said that
that it's like that that that area, that shopping area
is very historic. Yes, so is that what everybody's up
in arms about is like it ruins the feel of
the main street.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
That it's like that it's a peach and egg plant
out in the public.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
People love them that come by. People are obviously taking
selfies in front of them, like it gets people jazz.
And then then when they realize that the peach and eggplant,
there's like the whole giggle factor. Like I saw an
interview with Dave who owns that line then and he's
a he's a really good guy, and he's pretty funny,
and you know, right on is he his egg plant
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doesn't look like that eggplant?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So did they, like you said, there's an artist who
who who did them? Like did a whole bunch of
vegetables and fruits and stuff? So did these were these
commissioned by the two stores or did they just show
up there?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
No, So there's my landlord who actually is the landlord
for a lot of elegant city, loves the town and
loves art, and so he he didn't commission them. There's
a there's like an arts council that commissions these or
or or however it happened. But he then I think
that arts council bought them, and then he said, whyted
to put him in front of my properties?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I got you.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
So he's just he's doing it because he loves the
town and wants art in the town, Like this is
not the only art he's brought to town, Like he's
brought other stuff that I guess isn't as controversial. I
don't know, but it's it's crazy how like adamant people
are that these either stay or go, Like it's insane.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I was going to say, is it is it a?
Is it a? Is it a vocal minority that's against it?
Or is it a Is there really a large group
of people who are, like, you know, what doesn't belong here?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Other than the five people that sit on that council,
I have not met a person who has any issue.
And it's funny like in that council hearing, they're talking
about how the merchants are just temporary and like these
that the town is forever, and then the like president
of the Council's like, and I just moved here in
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twenty seventeen, and I'm like, I've had a store on
Main Street for almost thirty years, Like, who's temporary here?
It's like, here, you.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That's a horrible thing to say, because again, like I
forgive me, I'm not familiar with every store on Main Street,
but they do keep talking about it like it's historic,
it's historic. I feel like some of those shops have
probably been there for a very very long time.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Oh no doubt. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
I mean like I opened my first one there in
ninety seven, which is a long time, amost thirty years?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
What are they? And so it's just the people on
the council.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Much, That's all I've encountered, you know. And there were
petitions circulated. They're like hundreds upon hundreds of circus signature
supporting this, and so, you know, I understand that it's
technically against guidelines, but there aren't actual guidelines for art.
They're applying guidelines for like outdoor furniture to these things,
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and I'm like, what are you what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
So the so, what what ultimately ends up happening is
the does the council get to decide if they stay
or go?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
They said, what's funny is they said the eggplant can
stay for eleven or twelve months, but the peach is
just out. No way on the peach and I'm like, what,
I got a problem with peaches versus eggs?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So when does when does the beach? When does the
peach have to be removed by.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Well, there's there's an appeals process, and so we're sort
of gathering up support to appeal it, and it may
up in court, which is again, is bananas not to
use another vegetable or fruit here, But it's crazy that
it might end up in court over what amounts to
like a three foot diameter piece.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I mean, it does seem like a good use of
everybody's time and money.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Oh, definitely. The hearing that I sat on it for
this was three and a half hours long, Oh my god,
starting at seven o'clock. And the first hour and a
half was somebody else they were beating up on unfairly
in my opinion, and then it was like an hour
and a half about this peach and eggplant. And I'm like,
this is insane. Just don't worry about it. Like, we're
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not talking about changing the structure of a building. We're
putting a piece of art on a pedestal in front
of a store and in front of a restaurant, you know,
for the restaurant, the restaurant's called Georgia Grace and the
piece of art is called the Georgia Peach. Like it
makes sense, like there's a great correlation there, But I
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guess people know better.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
What do I know? I've only been there twenty eight years.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Are the council like are the council people? Are they known?
Like you're a business owner, You've got a couple of places.
Are the council? Are the council people like known to
be like like like they got a big like sticking
their ass.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
They are very strict yees Like I go back to
I tried to get a sign put one on my
store and one of the council people, who's not there anymore,
in her defense, said, you're wearing a shirt from your
company and the logos are different. Does that mean you're
going to get new shirts? And I'm like, don't.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Worry about it, Like.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
My sign, Yes, I am changing my logo, but I'm
changing it to what I'm putting on the side of
the building, Like don't worry about my shirt.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
So yeah, it's tough, it's it's wild, and we hope
that everybody comes out and supports this because it's you know,
they're better things, like you said, they're better uses of
people's time. They're better fights to fight and to fight over.
Public art should.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Not be one of them. When is the next hearing?
Speaker 5 (11:12):
It should be the couple of weeks on of September.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, all right, you will, you will keep us. You'll
be my core, You'll be my elicate, elicant city Peach
and egg Plant correspondent happy to all right, excellent. I
appreciate it, Thank you, sir, Thank you, Thank you. Guys.
I love them.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I love town fights like this.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
The well, I love a town fight like this. Yeah,
or you just like the artwork. No, the artwork is fine.
I'm looking at.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Jan Cursh's website. The stuff is really cool. I see
the carrots. They have pineapple, asparagus art at choke.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Figs Penis. Oh, I'm sorry, eggplant the eggplant? Where is who?
What is the artist's name? Jan Kersh? Is Jan Kersh
out of l At City.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I don't see that. I can look it up for you.
Oh those are cherries. Yeah, it's just it all has
a really fun look to it.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Is that Jan?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Yes? Right?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Hi Jeli in the morning? Hello, Yeah, Hi, who's this
this is Mike. Yes, Mike, what can I do for you?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Well, so I'm calling about this eggplant and these peaches.
I actually do the paint work for Jan. I actually
painted that specific eggplant about a month and a half,
two months ago for the Elicant City Art Historical Society.
Somebody had went downtown and broke that specific one and
I just fixed it. The city just paid me to
fix and paint that piece. So I think it's funny
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that now there's a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Okay, So let's back up for a second. So so
you paint. So jan is the artist, and you paint
the I mean, by the way, like the paint looks
like very shiny and nice, like it is a good
look at art, right.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Well, it's the same process as automotive paint. So with her.
But she, Janna is a great talented sculptor. She sells
these pieces all the time in the Virginia stuff like that.
She's gonna We did a big like six foot avocado
half it's a water fountain. The twisted carrots we did.
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I mean, she donates a lot of these pieces around town.
We've had other municipal places call about purchasing stuff for
like their farmers market to put pieces out there. There's
another eggplant and a six foot pair down in town
in Annapolis, So I just find it funny, like the
county or the city or the Elegant City Art people
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decided to pay and have that egg plant repaired, like
literally less than two months ago, and now it's a problem.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I was gonna go back to that. The same people
that are trying to get it kicked out are the
same people that paid you to fix it.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
I'm not sure if it's the same council, but it's
the Art Council for Elicant City, so there may be
a different, whole, different group. I think the ones that
are fighting it are Historical Society of Elegant City. But
then the Art Council of Elicant City are the ones
that actually paid to have the piece repaired and replaced
back out there. So I guess these aren't talking to
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each other. One hand's not talking to the other.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Hey, can I can I ask you this? And maybe
you're comfortable or not saying it. How much did they
pay to have it fixed?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I will. I won't get into that. I mean, I
appreciate the question, but I mean it wasn't a hundred bucks,
I'll tell you that. But I mean, I don't really
want to.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, no, no, but I mean, but that's the point
I was gonna make. I bet it wasn't cheap. I mean,
this is somebody's art that is a one of one
or you know, one of a couple that has to
go in. Like you said, it ain't cheap to just
have this fixed.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
No, somebody had broke the stem off of the somebody
broke the stem off the top of it down there.
You know, you get kids, teenagers, you know, doing stupid
stuff and replaced the stem, right. I wouldn't. I wouldn't,
I wouldn't put it there. But yeah, I'm just I'm
finely hilarious.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, where is uh? Where is home for jan?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
She's over on the shore, so she does a lot
of landscaping design actually is her is her main deal.
The art is just a passion of hers. She's done
anything from I just did like eighteen inch tomatoes that
people who are got in their gardens all over these
houses out in like Virginia Beach and stuff. We did
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the carrots. She does grapevine scenes that you put up
in panels and you're you know, out in your gardens
and stuff. So she has a passion for it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So, hey, where is the I know you mentioned it earlier.
I'm looking at this big, massive avocado half. Is there
a fountain in the middle of that?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah, it's actually a bubbler. It's like a water bubbler.
It's out I want to say. It's out on the
shore at a free public library. It's set up out there.
So I just had to redo that as well, because
you get people trying to throw coins in it and
it chips it all up and knocked the pain around.
So I just redid that as well.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
All right, very good, we'll tell Jan, we said, what's up.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
I will do that.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And boy, you guys have a whole controversy going.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
My friend. Well, I mean I talked to Jan about
it the other day when it popped up, and I mean,
it's it's obviously their choice what they want to do
with it. But at the end of the day, at
least they're talking about our artwork. That's how people looking
at it.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Oh hey, you know what I should ask if if
the the at least the last guy we talked to,
one of the shop owners down there, said that the
egg plant has like can stay for X amount of time,
but the peach us to go. Where will Jan?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Where will Jan move that stuff?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
We're not real sure. I mean, she's she hasn't really
taken a lot into this as far as our conversation yet,
because nobody's really reached out to us. This is an
internal thing right now. If they want us to come
take it down or whatever, we'll come take it and
we'll move it somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I mean, we'll tell you what.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
I don't believe them.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I don't know. I don't know what you and Jam
would think about it. But right outside the studio door
for the Elliot the Morning Studio, I'd love to have
I'd love to have it out there.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah. Well, I'll definitely mention it to Jan. I did.
I just hit her up. Let her know that you
guys are talking about it on the air. Because that
my son in law call me and say, hey, they're
talking about that stuff again. So I think it's funny
how far this is going over an egg plant and
a peach.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Oh, trust me, it'll make national news before this is
all said and done. All right, my friend, I appreciate it. Hey,
let me know if you need us to store it here.
We got you.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
I'll let her know.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Thank you, all right, very good, Thank you sir. How
cool we would that be?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And the eggplant, I'm following its journey on her Instagram page.
Over the years, that specific eggplant has been all over
the DMV.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Is it really? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
So it.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
People have seen this in downtown DC, They've seen it
in Frederick County. I think there was a Northern Virginia
stop like this is a known piece, not.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
A Delicant City. Oh, it's very well known. It's actually
infamous in Ellicant City.