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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I may mispronounce this, just so you know, plural effusion
p L e U R A L Is that?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Am I saying that right? Clear? Plural?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Or plural?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Plural? Like as though I added an asd more than one?
Plural effusion? Have we ever heard of that before?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm trying to think plural effusion, plural effusion.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I feel like I'm saying it wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
No, I don't think so sounds okay, that sounds wrong
to say.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
No, I think you have it, Elliott Krista, Will you
do me a favorite?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Will you see if you can find me somebody that
has I don't know if it's rare. I have no idea.
I've never heard of it before. Will you find me somebody.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That had that has had plural effusion?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I think it may go away. I don't know how
it's treated. I don't know anything about.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It, plural effusion.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I only know one person that's had it, and I
know how they got it, But I don't know a
common way that you would get it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Susan Schmidt has it?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
You know her personally?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, no, no, no no no. She was in her backyard.
She lives at the golf Villa apartments in mantaika rogue
golf ball from the driving range bam right in the chest.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh, Elliott.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
She said she was just sitting there and people were
people were.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Like just using the driving range.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And by the way, she had been complaining for a
long time and that's not up and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
But anyway, you hear about it, right, the old slapper
when people live along a hole. Yeah, so she lives
near the range. Yeah, yep, is there netting?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
She's trying to not enough.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
She says that she for the last couple of months,
she's been collecting rogue golf balls that have entered her yard,
and she and her neighbor, Elizabeth Perez, they take the
in order to complain. They take the golf balls to
like the city council and go, here's everybody else that
could have gotten hit?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Is a good way to improve their point.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
They voted to install new concrete tease matts and dividers
at the range so that she wouldn't get hit in
the chest no more.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Which is good? Is this?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Like, I don't know where you've talked about people setting
up to try to hit it over any sort of Oh, right,
is her house a target?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't know if I don't know if her house
is a target or not, or she literally is just
getting rogue golf balls. She just said honestly, she was
just sitting outside and she's like, listen.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I know I live on a golf course.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
But now she suffers from this plural effusion.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I don't know if you suffer from it.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh she's recovered.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, that's what I'm saying. I don't know if you
have it and it goes away, or if it's cancer.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Like I know it's not cancer, but like you just
you have it.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
So if you break down the.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Word but for example, I have I have a cut
on my finger right right, that's gonna go away.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, your body heals itself.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Thank you. How are you? You can do something else?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Say again, are the ribs giving you trouble?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, the cutting, the cuts on the top of my finger,
notre Not on the fork part.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Of my I've seen you get pretty saucy, the fork
part of my finger.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That's how I pick up my food with my hand.
My hands are forks. All right, Here I go line too,
Hi Ellie in the morning, morning.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Man, Hey, who's this?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Hey, it's hey, it's ty. How you doing man?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Ti, I am doing great. Do you know what plural
effusion is?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah? Man, it's funny. I actually talked to you about
the top golf. I was the guy that said, hey,
it's supposed to keep the balls from hitting people, right.
And my wife had plural effusion, and uh, I've encountered
a lot in the in medicine, but ultimately it's what
killed her. So it is a collection of fluid in
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the in the space between your lungs and the wall
of your like the lining around your lungs called the
plural and what happens is that fluid is starting to
collapse your lungs slowly. Now you can take meds to
help with it, you know, we we do things to
try and you know, get rid of it. But some
people you just can't keep up with that fluid flow.
(04:57):
So you have to open them up, you know, do
a little drain maybe or maybe even a chess to
right right. So it can get it can get pretty bad,
but for most people it's pretty limited.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Can I ask two things?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, first of all, I'm very sorry you were very
casual with what happened.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
But I'm very sorry to hear that.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Brother. You we talked about her a couple of times.
Actually it was. It's it's a rough story, it has
a phenomenal ending. I'm married to her best friend. We've
been married for several years. It's rough, but I got
I hit the lodder. I got my best friend twice.
You know, a good sting.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
You know what I like. I like by the way.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I like how people say that, like a buddy. I
can't say a buddy of mine. A guy that I
know he ended up. He he divorced. I mean, I
know you didn't divorce, right, But he divorced and then
got married, and he was married for a long time,
and then he married somebody else. He's like, finally I
found my best friend. I was like, dude, you were
married to that other woman for twenty years. You got
kids and everything with her. Anyway, I digress, I digress.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
How did she get it?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's like the opposite sentiment, Oh.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Man, how do you remember how you were saying? You
remember how you were saying, it's not like cancer. Well
she got it from cancer. Okay, she had a tumor
in the stage.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, my god, he's a nag, didn't he?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
How do I not win the lot? Any serious?
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I know buddy, I was when you started talking. I
was laughing my face off and she's laughing too, so
you know, it's all good. But the tumor started secreting
fluid faster than her body could take it up. So
we start. We put in a drain to help drain it,
and it was working, but ultimately that fluid became so thick.
It was just it was we weren't ever going to
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get ahead of it.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Interesting, all right, dude, Hey listen, I appreciate the I
appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Thank you, my friend much.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Love to smell the face.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Hey, smell it, good, smell it.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Good.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Boys.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I stumbled into a couple of those land mines who hi,
elliot in the morning.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Hi, yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Ah?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
This is Rich from Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
What's going on, dude?
Speaker 6 (07:13):
In a whole lot of ploral fusions. Dam My son
actually had those as a complication from hypoplastic left heart
syndrome when he was born. He was born with half
a heart and he did all ploral fusions.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yep, oh wow. And as the.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Last caller said, you know you did. We'd manually drain it,
but his condition they didn't have to. They didn't have
to drain it. They used diuretics and it actually worked,
but it was close to being manually drained surgically.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Hey, can I can I ask you a couple of
questions that I hope doesn't doesn't bother you. How how
do you how do you know that he was I mean,
I believe you. I'm not questioning, like, hey, how do
you know? How do you learn that your kid was
born with half a heart?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
So twenty weeks sonogram?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Uh uh?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
You know, the images are very clear now, and he
was diagnosed with what's called hypoplastic left heart syndrome. It's
where the left side of the heart never fully formed right.
And he's had three surgical interventions when it four days old,
one at four months old, and one at three years old.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I can't imagine, dude, I can't even imagine what it's
like having your kid go through that at such a
young age.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, it was rough for me in my life, but
you know it was. He's healthy, he's happy, he's a
normal five year old, and you would never know without
you know, seeing with a shirt off, obviously, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Mine, that was gonna be My next question is moving forward?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Does it does it affect him. But does it impact
him yes, uh.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
So before the second surgery. And you can look these
videos up from the Cincinnati Heart Institute, they're on YouTube.
The actual surgical corrections that they do. They do it
in stages because obviously it's four days old. You know,
they have to correct that. There's no way for the
blood in his left chamber to get to his body, right,
(09:07):
so they actually I could go in on, but they
do a lot of stuff to save your life. The
first week they got to recover. Then you go into
the second surgery and it's done in stages as you grow.
And then the oldest living person I think is in
their forties. Oh, we've only been doing these surgeries since
the late seventies, so it's it's fairly new. It has
(09:29):
to be done with surgery. There's no way to correct it.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
But but during.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
That time he developed fluid on the lungs, as the
last caller said, and it is pretty rough. But as
soon as the diuretics kicked in it did it did help,
But gat they were getting very close to manually draining it.
Like the other caller said, and.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
You mentioned you mentioned not a common thing.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
When I heard it on the radio was like, very
odd thing to talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Hey, is is you mentioned you mentioned that hospital in Cincinnati.
Is that kind of like is that kind of like
like ground zero if you will of where where.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
You know they're all over? Okay, children International does it.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
His first surgery was done at University of Maryland, and
then the surgeon left and went to LOURI in Chicago.
We liked the surgeon, so we followed him to Chicago.
His second surgery was done there, and then his third
surgery was done in Philly at Chop Chop with great hospital.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Amazing Yeah, great hospital. All right, very good, very good. Hey,
I appreciate it, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Yeah, but you get a chance to look up the
videos and you can see, like the surgical corruption, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, I'll give that a look. I'll give that a look.
Thank you, my friend, thank you.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So can you those first two calls?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I know, by the.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Way, can I say this and this is what I
was going to ask? Maybe I should have asked like this,
she got she got hit by a golf ball. Like
all these people like they were going through some cancer.
Born without half a heart, and.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You could be struck in the head with a golf on
die So.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, well, yeah, and I can also walk out of
my house and get hit by.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Obviously, this wasn't a congenital defect for the woman in
the story, and it wasn't cancer, although I'm hearing it
could have been. But so are the types of fluid?
How many types of fluid are there in the body.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, let's start seminal.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
This cavity, So maybe we stick to plural effusion, which
if you have semen there. I don't know what's going on,
but it seems like it can be brought about by
so many different causes, yes, and so many different types
of fluid then are entering that space.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Blood, blood, urine, sweat, tears, dear, mucus.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, that's stuff you're seeing on the outside. I'm thinking
of Like he talked about a humor giving off the
fluid like that. That's not blood, sweat, tears or mucus,
you know, right, No.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Tumor, sweats, bile, Oh, I hate bile. I hate bile.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But the actual plural diffusion effects it said, it's like
over a million Americans a.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Year, no kidding, yes, but you can have urine in
your chest cavity. No, oh, you were just naming. Oh well,
you named so many. I thought you were reading. I
just gave you seminal. I thought we were going to
go back and forth, like name famous brats pit meltzer.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Anyway, we're line three. Hi Elliot in the morning.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Hey, good morning, Elliott. How are you?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I'm well?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (12:49):
I'm good? I have stage four lung cancer and it
was found to have a mild plural effusion when I
was diagnosed.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Does nobody have the fun version of like I got
hit by alf a golf ball?
Speaker 8 (13:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
I don't think it's really fun to deal with, so
probably not.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Okay, Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (13:15):
I'm actually doing great. I was diagnosed six years ago
when I was thirty nine, and I've been on a
targeted therapy drug ever since and I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Hey what did they think caused the lung cancer?
Speaker 7 (13:29):
So I have what's called a alk gene mutation. It's
really rare, but you know, lung cancer really it doesn't
just affect smokers necessarily, so it was definitely a shock.
But there are several different like gene mutations that can
happen that they've been discovering over the past several years.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Gotcha, and so.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
My mind just happens to be in the alk gene,
and so it typically can affect like younger non smoking
women most likely it is has happened to men obviously
as well. But that was what was found to be
driving the lung cancer. And so I just take a
targeted therapy drug and so it's keeping it kind of
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under control for now.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
You know, it's weird, and you would know this because
you got it plural effusion, that's in the plural the
it seems like it seems like it is a common side.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
To a bunch of bigger things.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Yeah, definitely. I mean it's you know obviously, you know
with the lining there of the lungs, you know, with cancer,
anything that's right there, it's really easily going to seep
into that kind of fluid there. Mine wasn't that bad.
It was cleared up pretty quickly with the with the
target therapy once I started treatment. Some people that you know,
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I've heard they do have to have it drained. They
do called like a pleurx catheter that has to be
drained periodically to get it back under control.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
God, what does that look like?
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Like, yeah, apparently it's really a nasty fluid.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Wow, all right, very good. I'm glad you're doing well.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Yeah, thank you, you got it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Thank you, ma'am, thank you.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
But somebody center our note that said like plural fluid,
which is lubricating the lungs and helping for smoother breathing,
is a vital part.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oh, so I have to So I have to I
have plural fluid. Yes, i'd good few fluid.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, Well, have you ever had issues with shortness of breath?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Not really?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I mean if I'm running, no, no, but like if
I exert myself.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Everybody has problems breathing. Even Michael Warnion has problems breathing.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
At the end of yesterday's a cross country meet, let
me just say they needed more than one garbage can
near the finish line because so many kids vomiting.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That's a lot of plural.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
A tough course, man, the old Redgate golf course.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh, that old dog track. That's a golf term, Diane.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It's just a lot of people have to use a
cart when they play golf. These kids were running as
fast as they could for over three miles.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
But but you know what, you know what else we
haven't heard.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
We still haven't heard from anybody who got it from
contact or from just injury.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, like an injury.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Like if you're I'm being serious, if you are the
if this woman's got plural flura, if you.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Flural plural flural.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Plural effusion, Yeah, I knew I'd get back there. If
I'm the golf course, the driving range, I would be like,
you may have had this and not known instead of
coming after us, I'm gonna thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I'm reading her account. It sounds like it developed because
of it, and it says trauma to the chest wall
can lead to it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh okay, all right, so she did her homework. No,
because I was gonna say every one these. First of all,
I can't believe somebody was born with half a heart
and is in is living.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
By the way, car accident which always comes up, that's
breaking my pelvis as a way things can happen. That's
listed for this effusion.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well, think about it. The steering whee. I got to
stop hitting myself.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
How'd you get it pounding my chest?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The no, no, but that's your steering wheel right into
your flura line seven Hi the morning. Hey this yeah, hi,
who's this?
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Hi am Heather. I am from Sarasota but originally Anopolis.
I love listening to you, so thanks for being on air.
Thlcome my team, you have it.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
Yeah. No, my daughter was three and she got pneumonia
and it happened super fast, and when we went to
the hospital, they were like, your her.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
Lungs are completely spelled with fluid and they needed to
do a surgical test tube as well as antibiotics to
get rid of her plural fusion.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Right, and now was she? I realized that's when she
was three? How old is she now?
Speaker 9 (18:15):
So she's twenty three now, still has the scar from
the test tube. But it was like a common random
like she got sick all of.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
A sudden, went to like the serious pneumonia.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
She was a children's for like twelve days, right, but
he was She's like a healthy kid, and you know,
I mean, probably picked up a germ or something and
I guess it.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
Maybe reacted in a way that just got her sick
really fast. So I mean, I guess, yeah, it's I
could be more common, I guess than than people would think,
but definitely not as serious as the past callers, but
still serious enough that means she was hospitalized for twelve
days as a three years old.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah no, no, like once it yeah, but once I
mean once that fills with with with liquid, everybody's at risk.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
It sounds like, yeah, absolutely, but I.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Mean you do need some pluriflura. All right, very good,
very good, Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Haven't we seen that happen? And again, this would be
more the filling of the the internal space, which is
like more like an edema, I believe, But can't can't
that happen with in high altitudes where the lungs fill
with liquid like a pulmonary edema?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I don't know about that edema.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Have we talked with like climbers about that.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I thought that had come up of where their lungs
filled No, like, I mean I know the danger for
other people on the mountains.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
No no, no, like we know that they run into
lung problems.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
But is it filling up with what There's a ton
of things that can happen at altitudes. You live on ice,
you can just have altitude sickness, right, it should probably
be the most minimal of adverse effects. But of course,
like the lungs can be affected by heart failure, like
that's obvious, but I feel like that's and not the effusion,
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which maybe two could happen. But when it's talking about
like the sacks, my sacks.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Are full of fluid. He already named it.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Anyway, I got Ball's academa.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's my second favorite to Funky Cold Diane. Wait, line eight.
I gotta go quick, Christin. You know I'm running late.
I'm on a very tight schedule today. Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Hi is this me?
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Hi, real quick?
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Okay, I got.
Speaker 10 (20:40):
A plurally fusion from swimming in the chest day.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Are you serious, Sean? Did you just ingest a lot
of water?
Speaker 10 (20:49):
No, it was from ekoli And I didn't find out
until like months later. I ended up in the hospital
and I had plurally freaked fusion around both of my lungs.
And they later found out that all of these people
were coming in with the same symptoms and it was
intestinal pain. It was terrible, and they linked it back
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to a spot in the bay that there was no
oxygen in the water.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Everything was dead.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, those like algae blooms were like all those fishes
or fish, Elliott, all those fish does.
Speaker 10 (21:24):
Exactly yep, that's exactly right. My friend was with me
that day. She had a tattoo on the top of
her foot. She didn't get in the water, but she
just put her feet in the water, and the next
day her foot blew.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Up like a baked potato.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
It was huge, and she had begun antibiotics.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, she probably had a cut on her foot and.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
It got in through the tattoo.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh yeah, it could have just been the wound from
the tattoo.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Sure right, it was.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
It was an old tattoo, but that was That was
the theory that it steeped in through the holes from
the tattoo. I guess I don't know, but it Are.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You good now? Are you good now?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah. It was just like like having the flu
or something. It lasted about like maybe like a week,
and then you're lucky it went away.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
No, you're lucky. I mean some of these other ones
i've heard of sound they go on forever.
Speaker 10 (22:16):
Yeah, mine didn't, Thank god.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Hey did I tell you that I have a ball's academa?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
There you go?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am, Thank you. All right.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
So I just gotta tell my kids even a tattoo
so many years old,
I may mispronounce this, just so you know, plural effusion
p L e U R A L Is that?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Am I saying that right? Clear? Plural?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Or plural?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Plural? Like as though I added an asd more than one?
Plural effusion? Have we ever heard of that before?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm trying to think plural effusion, plural effusion.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I feel like I'm saying it wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
No, I don't think so sounds okay, that sounds wrong
to say.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
No, I think you have it, Elliott Krista, Will you
do me a favorite?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Will you see if you can find me somebody that
has I don't know if it's rare. I have no idea.
I've never heard of it before. Will you find me somebody.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That had that has had plural effusion?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I think it may go away. I don't know how
it's treated. I don't know anything about.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It, plural effusion.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I only know one person that's had it, and I
know how they got it, But I don't know a
common way that you would get it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Susan Schmidt has it?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
You know her personally?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, no, no, no no no. She was in her backyard.
She lives at the golf Villa apartments in mantaika rogue
golf ball from the driving range bam right in the chest.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh, Elliott.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
She said she was just sitting there and people were
people were.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Like just using the driving range.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And by the way, she had been complaining for a
long time and that's not up and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
But anyway, you hear about it, right, the old slapper
when people live along a hole. Yeah, so she lives
near the range. Yeah, yep, is there netting?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
She's trying to not enough.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
She says that she for the last couple of months,
she's been collecting rogue golf balls that have entered her yard,
and she and her neighbor, Elizabeth Perez, they take the
in order to complain. They take the golf balls to
like the city council and go, here's everybody else that
could have gotten hit?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Is a good way to improve their point.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
They voted to install new concrete tease matts and dividers
at the range so that she wouldn't get hit in
the chest no more.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Which is good? Is this?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Like, I don't know where you've talked about people setting
up to try to hit it over any sort of Oh, right,
is her house a target?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't know if I don't know if her house
is a target or not, or she literally is just
getting rogue golf balls. She just said honestly, she was
just sitting outside and she's like, listen.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I know I live on a golf course.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
But now she suffers from this plural effusion.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I don't know if you suffer from it.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh she's recovered.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, that's what I'm saying. I don't know if you
have it and it goes away, or if it's cancer.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Like I know it's not cancer, but like you just
you have it.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
So if you break down the.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Word but for example, I have I have a cut
on my finger right right, that's gonna go away.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, your body heals itself.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Thank you. How are you? You can do something else?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Say again, are the ribs giving you trouble?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, the cutting, the cuts on the top of my finger,
notre Not on the fork part.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Of my I've seen you get pretty saucy, the fork
part of my finger.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That's how I pick up my food with my hand.
My hands are forks. All right, Here I go line too,
Hi Ellie in the morning, morning.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Man, Hey, who's this?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Hey, it's hey, it's ty. How you doing man?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Ti, I am doing great. Do you know what plural
effusion is?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah? Man, it's funny. I actually talked to you about
the top golf. I was the guy that said, hey,
it's supposed to keep the balls from hitting people, right.
And my wife had plural effusion, and uh, I've encountered
a lot in the in medicine, but ultimately it's what
killed her. So it is a collection of fluid in
(04:34):
the in the space between your lungs and the wall
of your like the lining around your lungs called the
plural and what happens is that fluid is starting to
collapse your lungs slowly. Now you can take meds to
help with it, you know, we we do things to
try and you know, get rid of it. But some
people you just can't keep up with that fluid flow.
(04:57):
So you have to open them up, you know, do
a little drain maybe or maybe even a chess to
right right. So it can get it can get pretty bad,
but for most people it's pretty limited.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Can I ask two things?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, first of all, I'm very sorry you were very
casual with what happened.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
But I'm very sorry to hear that.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Brother. You we talked about her a couple of times.
Actually it was. It's it's a rough story, it has
a phenomenal ending. I'm married to her best friend. We've
been married for several years. It's rough, but I got
I hit the lodder. I got my best friend twice.
You know, a good sting.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
You know what I like. I like by the way.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I like how people say that, like a buddy. I
can't say a buddy of mine. A guy that I
know he ended up. He he divorced. I mean, I
know you didn't divorce, right, But he divorced and then
got married, and he was married for a long time,
and then he married somebody else. He's like, finally I
found my best friend. I was like, dude, you were
married to that other woman for twenty years. You got
kids and everything with her. Anyway, I digress, I digress.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
How did she get it?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's like the opposite sentiment, Oh.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Man, how do you remember how you were saying? You
remember how you were saying, it's not like cancer. Well
she got it from cancer. Okay, she had a tumor
in the stage.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, my god, he's a nag, didn't he?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
How do I not win the lot? Any serious?
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I know buddy, I was when you started talking. I
was laughing my face off and she's laughing too, so
you know, it's all good. But the tumor started secreting
fluid faster than her body could take it up. So
we start. We put in a drain to help drain it,
and it was working, but ultimately that fluid became so thick.
It was just it was we weren't ever going to
(06:47):
get ahead of it.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Interesting, all right, dude, Hey listen, I appreciate the I
appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Thank you, my friend much.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Love to smell the face.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Hey, smell it, good, smell it.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Good.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Boys.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I stumbled into a couple of those land mines who hi,
elliot in the morning.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Hi, yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Ah?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
This is Rich from Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
What's going on, dude?
Speaker 6 (07:13):
In a whole lot of ploral fusions. Dam My son
actually had those as a complication from hypoplastic left heart
syndrome when he was born. He was born with half
a heart and he did all ploral fusions.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yep, oh wow. And as the.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Last caller said, you know you did. We'd manually drain it,
but his condition they didn't have to. They didn't have
to drain it. They used diuretics and it actually worked,
but it was close to being manually drained surgically.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Hey, can I can I ask you a couple of
questions that I hope doesn't doesn't bother you. How how
do you how do you know that he was I mean,
I believe you. I'm not questioning, like, hey, how do
you know? How do you learn that your kid was
born with half a heart?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
So twenty weeks sonogram?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Uh uh?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
You know, the images are very clear now, and he
was diagnosed with what's called hypoplastic left heart syndrome. It's
where the left side of the heart never fully formed right.
And he's had three surgical interventions when it four days old,
one at four months old, and one at three years old.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I can't imagine, dude, I can't even imagine what it's
like having your kid go through that at such a
young age.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, it was rough for me in my life, but
you know it was. He's healthy, he's happy, he's a
normal five year old, and you would never know without
you know, seeing with a shirt off, obviously, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Mine, that was gonna be My next question is moving forward?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Does it does it affect him. But does it impact
him yes, uh.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
So before the second surgery. And you can look these
videos up from the Cincinnati Heart Institute, they're on YouTube.
The actual surgical corrections that they do. They do it
in stages because obviously it's four days old. You know,
they have to correct that. There's no way for the
blood in his left chamber to get to his body, right,
(09:07):
so they actually I could go in on, but they
do a lot of stuff to save your life. The
first week they got to recover. Then you go into
the second surgery and it's done in stages as you grow.
And then the oldest living person I think is in
their forties. Oh, we've only been doing these surgeries since
the late seventies, so it's it's fairly new. It has
(09:29):
to be done with surgery. There's no way to correct it.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
But but during.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
That time he developed fluid on the lungs, as the
last caller said, and it is pretty rough. But as
soon as the diuretics kicked in it did it did help,
But gat they were getting very close to manually draining it.
Like the other caller said, and.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
You mentioned you mentioned not a common thing.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
When I heard it on the radio was like, very
odd thing to talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Hey, is is you mentioned you mentioned that hospital in Cincinnati.
Is that kind of like is that kind of like
like ground zero if you will of where where.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
You know they're all over? Okay, children International does it.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
His first surgery was done at University of Maryland, and
then the surgeon left and went to LOURI in Chicago.
We liked the surgeon, so we followed him to Chicago.
His second surgery was done there, and then his third
surgery was done in Philly at Chop Chop with great hospital.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Amazing Yeah, great hospital. All right, very good, very good. Hey,
I appreciate it, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Yeah, but you get a chance to look up the
videos and you can see, like the surgical corruption, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, I'll give that a look. I'll give that a look.
Thank you, my friend, thank you.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So can you those first two calls?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I know, by the.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Way, can I say this and this is what I
was going to ask? Maybe I should have asked like this,
she got she got hit by a golf ball. Like
all these people like they were going through some cancer.
Born without half a heart, and.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You could be struck in the head with a golf on
die So.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, well, yeah, and I can also walk out of
my house and get hit by.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Obviously, this wasn't a congenital defect for the woman in
the story, and it wasn't cancer, although I'm hearing it
could have been. But so are the types of fluid?
How many types of fluid are there in the body.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, let's start seminal.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
This cavity, So maybe we stick to plural effusion, which
if you have semen there. I don't know what's going on,
but it seems like it can be brought about by
so many different causes, yes, and so many different types
of fluid then are entering that space.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Blood, blood, urine, sweat, tears, dear, mucus.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, that's stuff you're seeing on the outside. I'm thinking
of Like he talked about a humor giving off the
fluid like that. That's not blood, sweat, tears or mucus,
you know, right, No.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Tumor, sweats, bile, Oh, I hate bile. I hate bile.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But the actual plural diffusion effects it said, it's like
over a million Americans a.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Year, no kidding, yes, but you can have urine in
your chest cavity. No, oh, you were just naming. Oh well,
you named so many. I thought you were reading. I
just gave you seminal. I thought we were going to
go back and forth, like name famous brats pit meltzer.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Anyway, we're line three. Hi Elliot in the morning.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Hey, good morning, Elliott. How are you?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I'm well?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (12:49):
I'm good? I have stage four lung cancer and it
was found to have a mild plural effusion when I
was diagnosed.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Does nobody have the fun version of like I got
hit by alf a golf ball?
Speaker 8 (13:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
I don't think it's really fun to deal with, so
probably not.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Okay, Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (13:15):
I'm actually doing great. I was diagnosed six years ago
when I was thirty nine, and I've been on a
targeted therapy drug ever since and I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Hey what did they think caused the lung cancer?
Speaker 7 (13:29):
So I have what's called a alk gene mutation. It's
really rare, but you know, lung cancer really it doesn't
just affect smokers necessarily, so it was definitely a shock.
But there are several different like gene mutations that can
happen that they've been discovering over the past several years.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Gotcha, and so.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
My mind just happens to be in the alk gene,
and so it typically can affect like younger non smoking
women most likely it is has happened to men obviously
as well. But that was what was found to be
driving the lung cancer. And so I just take a
targeted therapy drug and so it's keeping it kind of
(14:10):
under control for now.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
You know, it's weird, and you would know this because
you got it plural effusion, that's in the plural the
it seems like it seems like it is a common side.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
To a bunch of bigger things.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Yeah, definitely. I mean it's you know obviously, you know
with the lining there of the lungs, you know, with cancer,
anything that's right there, it's really easily going to seep
into that kind of fluid there. Mine wasn't that bad.
It was cleared up pretty quickly with the with the
target therapy once I started treatment. Some people that you know,
(14:50):
I've heard they do have to have it drained. They
do called like a pleurx catheter that has to be
drained periodically to get it back under control.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
God, what does that look like?
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Like, yeah, apparently it's really a nasty fluid.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Wow, all right, very good. I'm glad you're doing well.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Yeah, thank you, you got it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Thank you, ma'am, thank you.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
But somebody center our note that said like plural fluid,
which is lubricating the lungs and helping for smoother breathing,
is a vital part.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oh, so I have to So I have to I
have plural fluid. Yes, i'd good few fluid.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, Well, have you ever had issues with shortness of breath?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Not really?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I mean if I'm running, no, no, but like if
I exert myself.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Everybody has problems breathing. Even Michael Warnion has problems breathing.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
At the end of yesterday's a cross country meet, let
me just say they needed more than one garbage can
near the finish line because so many kids vomiting.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That's a lot of plural.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
A tough course, man, the old Redgate golf course.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh, that old dog track. That's a golf term, Diane.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It's just a lot of people have to use a
cart when they play golf. These kids were running as
fast as they could for over three miles.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
But but you know what, you know what else we
haven't heard.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
We still haven't heard from anybody who got it from
contact or from just injury.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, like an injury.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Like if you're I'm being serious, if you are the
if this woman's got plural flura, if you.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Flural plural flural.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Plural effusion, Yeah, I knew I'd get back there. If
I'm the golf course, the driving range, I would be like,
you may have had this and not known instead of
coming after us, I'm gonna thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I'm reading her account. It sounds like it developed because
of it, and it says trauma to the chest wall
can lead to it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh okay, all right, so she did her homework. No,
because I was gonna say every one these. First of all,
I can't believe somebody was born with half a heart
and is in is living.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
By the way, car accident which always comes up, that's
breaking my pelvis as a way things can happen. That's
listed for this effusion.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well, think about it. The steering whee. I got to
stop hitting myself.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
How'd you get it pounding my chest?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The no, no, but that's your steering wheel right into
your flura line seven Hi the morning. Hey this yeah, hi,
who's this?
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Hi am Heather. I am from Sarasota but originally Anopolis.
I love listening to you, so thanks for being on air.
Thlcome my team, you have it.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
Yeah. No, my daughter was three and she got pneumonia
and it happened super fast, and when we went to
the hospital, they were like, your her.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
Lungs are completely spelled with fluid and they needed to
do a surgical test tube as well as antibiotics to
get rid of her plural fusion.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Right, and now was she? I realized that's when she
was three? How old is she now?
Speaker 9 (18:15):
So she's twenty three now, still has the scar from
the test tube. But it was like a common random
like she got sick all of.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
A sudden, went to like the serious pneumonia.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
She was a children's for like twelve days, right, but
he was She's like a healthy kid, and you know,
I mean, probably picked up a germ or something and
I guess it.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
Maybe reacted in a way that just got her sick
really fast. So I mean, I guess, yeah, it's I
could be more common, I guess than than people would think,
but definitely not as serious as the past callers, but
still serious enough that means she was hospitalized for twelve
days as a three years old.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah no, no, like once it yeah, but once I
mean once that fills with with with liquid, everybody's at risk.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
It sounds like, yeah, absolutely, but I.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Mean you do need some pluriflura. All right, very good,
very good, Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Haven't we seen that happen? And again, this would be
more the filling of the the internal space, which is
like more like an edema, I believe, But can't can't
that happen with in high altitudes where the lungs fill
with liquid like a pulmonary edema?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I don't know about that edema.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Have we talked with like climbers about that.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I thought that had come up of where their lungs
filled No, like, I mean I know the danger for
other people on the mountains.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
No no, no, like we know that they run into
lung problems.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
But is it filling up with what There's a ton
of things that can happen at altitudes. You live on ice,
you can just have altitude sickness, right, it should probably
be the most minimal of adverse effects. But of course,
like the lungs can be affected by heart failure, like
that's obvious, but I feel like that's and not the effusion,
(20:03):
which maybe two could happen. But when it's talking about
like the sacks, my sacks.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Are full of fluid. He already named it.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Anyway, I got Ball's academa.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's my second favorite to Funky Cold Diane. Wait, line eight.
I gotta go quick, Christin. You know I'm running late.
I'm on a very tight schedule today. Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Hi is this me?
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Hi, real quick?
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Okay, I got.
Speaker 10 (20:40):
A plurally fusion from swimming in the chest day.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Are you serious, Sean? Did you just ingest a lot
of water?
Speaker 10 (20:49):
No, it was from ekoli And I didn't find out
until like months later. I ended up in the hospital
and I had plurally freaked fusion around both of my lungs.
And they later found out that all of these people
were coming in with the same symptoms and it was
intestinal pain. It was terrible, and they linked it back
(21:11):
to a spot in the bay that there was no
oxygen in the water.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Everything was dead.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, those like algae blooms were like all those fishes
or fish, Elliott, all those fish does.
Speaker 10 (21:24):
Exactly yep, that's exactly right. My friend was with me
that day. She had a tattoo on the top of
her foot. She didn't get in the water, but she
just put her feet in the water, and the next
day her foot blew.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Up like a baked potato.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
It was huge, and she had begun antibiotics.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, she probably had a cut on her foot and.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
It got in through the tattoo.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh yeah, it could have just been the wound from
the tattoo.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Sure right, it was.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
It was an old tattoo, but that was That was
the theory that it steeped in through the holes from
the tattoo. I guess I don't know, but it Are.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You good now? Are you good now?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah. It was just like like having the flu
or something. It lasted about like maybe like a week,
and then you're lucky it went away.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
No, you're lucky. I mean some of these other ones
i've heard of sound they go on forever.
Speaker 10 (22:16):
Yeah, mine didn't, Thank god.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Hey did I tell you that I have a ball's academa?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
There you go?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am, Thank you. All right.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
So I just gotta tell my kids even a tattoo
so many years old,
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