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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Last year, when I was a trainee at a work
development program, I became close friends with Barb, the main
person who was training us. She helped me through some
tough times with my life and taught me a lot
of excellent skills and ideas.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Is that what is the development program? Thing? Is that?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Just like like onboarding?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Okay, the organization had a strict and strange no fraightnization policy.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh like that?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Why?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I've always said that for here, there's way too much
falling around here and not enough work getting done.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
But do you mean, like to me, a fratonization policy
is like dating?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh okay, okay, I was talking about do your job
while you're here and hang out outside.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Of the office. But you could still be friendly with
people at work.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Not necessary case in point.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, But like, there's nothing wrong with like talking to people.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well, are you shocked at these statements?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
No? Not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
No, no, no, But that's but wait, so am I
reading fratnization wrong. There's no way that a company's policy.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Is you can't talk to each other. No, but stay
at your desk. You may have to collaborate on something.
I understand that you're not completely individuals working towards something
that maybe doesn't need some sort of assistance. I get that.
(01:40):
I get that it's everything else that needs to go.
So this policy, maybe you're right to think it's something
outside the office. But because I've always argued for something
like this, I hear it and I perk up and
say beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well, but maybe it's not. Well anyway, let me finish,
Let me finish. She helped me through I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
What does it mean?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
She helped me through some very tough times with my life,
like just talking, yeah, because it says they never.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Used like a shoulder to cry on, so spak.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
The Okay, she helped me, barbed helped me through some
very tough times with my life. It taught me a
lot of excellent skills and ideas. During this training program,
the organization had a strict and strange no fraightnization policy.
Some colleagues ignored it, and no one that I knew
of faced any consequences. We never did anything inappropriate or
(02:33):
socialized outside of work, so what is But so again,
I'm not fucking they're not hooking up, so maybe they
just which isn't inappropriate? They never socialized outside of work.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So they got too friendly and too into each other's
lives at work.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
After the formal After the formal part of training was over,
some job search assistance was ongoing with another individual. For
a holiday gift, I gave all all of the trainers,
not just Barb, all of the trainer's cookies. I also
gave Barb a speaker that I had won, since she
enjoys music. On the card, I also included my phone
(03:11):
number my phone number, since I didn't expect that we'd
see each other at the work site anymore, and I
wanted to stay in touch because that the the onboarding
was over. I was not aware of the no fratnization
policy included post Oh. I was not aware that the
(03:33):
no fratnization policy included post training for a period of time.
Barb got fired. Wow what Bob got fired?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's what I said.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He said, Bob, Barb, Oh my god, Oh belly chose God,
You're gonna get murked. I just posted on Instagram Stories
the original video with the caption legend.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Bob was five.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Because it was mistakenly assumed that we were more than
friends based on the speaker and the card with the
phone number.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He's got to feel horrible.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
No one asked me what happened.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
No one listened when my friend said that nothing had happened.
I only found out a couple of weeks later, by
which time Barb had moved on to find.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
A new job.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Because she was fired, she was unable to collect unemployment
or retrieved some of her belongings from her office. Wow,
this is like, yeah, her family was also upset.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Now that's strict.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, but I'm saying, but I don't but I don't
understand what is I don't understand what is the fratnization policy?
So is that like when Caruso will come sit in
the office for like forty minutes and just so I
can hear him mouth breathe.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Okay, he's aren't you guys working on something? I mentioned collaboration.
I allowed for collaboration in my.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Scenario times, but not a lot of times.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And he's not the only one that comes and visits you.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
No Colin will come in. But that's work, Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Do you swear by that always?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it was work yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It's never been gossip fueled. That's sometimes put Nine times
out of ten that goes on at work. Yes, oh, Tiran,
it sounds like you've overheard some of this conversation.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, Diane, yeah, well Diane, she's in those meetings. But
do you understand what I mean? I don't understand what
the fratnization policy is that?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, so just because they forget the details.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yes, in my mind, in my mind, in my mind,
fratnization was like you can't you can't date, and there's
been plenty of hookups in offices.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But this seems stricter than that. Oh, yes, so strict
the r is silent?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is there is there, Kristen?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Is there anybody who's got like a strict no fratnization?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I hate that word? No fratnization policy?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Is there?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
The only one I keep thinking of is like like
when the football players and the cheerleaders can't fraternize.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Hold on, let me go ask Coolly if it only
applied on the cheerleading side, because nobody ever said anything
to Chris Christy.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yes, what was the other cheerleader? Frankie? She worked for Nervous.
She also worked her way into Cooley's pants.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh my goodness, she did. Did they also have some work?
This updated the terminology. Doesn't it sound dated? Yeah, because
not just because I use it a lot, but because
it just sounds like it's a rule from yesteryear when
you call it.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
This what to fratenize?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, I don't know, maybe that's really nitpicking.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It anyway, Chris, will you see it? Will you see if?
Like there's no fratnization policy here?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Right, you have to disclose if you're in a relationship
with someone. But is it always in the ethics test?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
We just did, Oh what the port one? No?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
No port this year? Now?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Oh, but what is the what is the So if
you're in a relationship with anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
They they definitely or is highlighted if it is senior
lower Who could someone that could treat you with privilege
or priority?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Like if Diane and I.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
We're date, you'd have to disclose that raw uh uh.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Robbie and Rochelle they were married, And I told you
I hate I hate husband and wife morning show teams.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
They're getting they all getting divorced, yeah well no, dug.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, and then and losing work.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But they came into that role Mary as a married couple.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, I hate that. I hate that.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We bore the audience with that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Last anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
No, but it'd be like if Diane and I were
in a relationship, I would have to definitely disclose that.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But if Diane and Colin.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Were in a relationship, no, I there could be issues
with endorsements.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
When is it? When is the late?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Diane could still get none. You gotta put yourself out there, Diane.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, get that hand down, get that hand out. No, okay,
But like if I'm trying to think.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You're just take Like, if there's two people in promotions
right that are in the same position, they don't say anything.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So if Casey and Haley were hooking up, they wouldn't
have to say what.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
First of all, they can't be bisexual. That's definitely not
where I was going. Oh no, no, I'm talking about
like the table that on the side of the office.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Oh, like Pierre, so I believe he has a girlfriend. Yeah,
but if he was hooking up with somebody likes who's
another one of the people, Jake, Well, Jake got moved
into sales. But if he and Jake were hooking up,
they wouldn't have to say anything.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
But I would question Pierre's endorsements. Yeah, well he gets
more than Diane. Line three but this isn't even hooking up. No,
this isn't hooking up right this one unless you don't
think the truth is being told.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I know, I totally believe that.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I kind of do as well. I believe it because
A're pointing out how crazy this policy is.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
But that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Does the company dictate that you can't, Hey, Darla, does
a company dictate that you can't socialize with somebody man
that that's.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Hardcore as much as they want, like team building events
and happy hours and yeah, breakfast.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Like yeah, twice a week, come in, we got we
got egg sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Just don't talk to anybody line you say, three, Hi,
Elliet in the morning. Hey, good morning, Yes sir, what
can I do for you? I was just calling to
comment on the fratization thing.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
The military's got a huge fratization where you can't go
out and like hang out with your superiors or people
like that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Just by the way. I get that, I totally get that.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
But these two people didn't even go out, like they
never saw each other outside of the office.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, well, I mean even at the office, you know,
like you can't have that friendship style.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Look, I guess you can say be as perceptions everything.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So let's take let's take Aaron Hyland, right, he's the
market president, and Diane notices that he got his butt
lift relifted. He she can't go in there and talk
to him and spend time. That's that's fratnization. So they
would get fired for that.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I mean not in the military, you would get fired.
I mean you might get reprimanded, but you're not gonna
get fired.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Wow, I just I can't imagine. Thank you, sir. I
can't imagine working in a place like that.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Now, aren't you given some heads up before you start
that job?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, But also, like the guy said, it was never enforced, which.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Is a problem with any policy at the office when
you perhaps decide now is the time we're going to
make a big deal out of something.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Oh, I'd give you a laundry list of that garbage.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Do you think when it comes is that him? My
favorite part of that was I was distracted out of
the corner of my eye. But then I was very
distracted when Elliott pointed in front of my face. It's like, yeah,
(12:23):
I see Chris is on the news again. There's also
the legend on our Instagram.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Stories anyway, I'm sorry, what were you saying?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Do you think even though it was and this goes back,
this is more for the dating question here. Yes, and
it does come up that there needs to be disclosure,
but they don't talk about in our training the consequence
if you keep it.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
A secret.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So I'm dating Who am I dating? Here? Not Diane?
Who am I dating?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Camp?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Being cool?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
So it can't be like Chili. It can't. Well, that's
what I'm saying, Like it can't. You need to pick
anybody else that could wield influence over you, or you
could them.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I can't think of anybody.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
It's you can name anybody but Chili that I'm I'm
hooking up with.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yes, yeah I would. I'd hook up with anybody but Chili.
Stop Bianca Bianca.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yes, you would absolutely have to disclose that.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And what if I didn't? They didn't say, yeah, nothing
is a termination, no way for hooking up with Bianca. No,
I'm not saying specifically here, I'm saying anybody that you'd
have to is that because she's she's too high up?
Like what if it was somebody lower?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
No, it doesn't matter. It's just if it's if it's
someone who's not on your plane. The example being, no,
well find Toby. Also Toby, you could not hook up.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
That's a race to the bottom.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
No, No, that's not the point of the example. Right, No,
you'd never see him. Facts, what kind of ethics are those?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Diane rude?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Diane's rude, Diana bitch. I ain't gonna get murked, Hi,
Elliott the Morning.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Sure clubs man can't great one.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
That's a great one. No, that's true, that's true. Not
supposed to.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, I didn't hear what he says strip clubs, bouncers
and dancers. Oh okay, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
That's a big one.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But go back to your question. The answer is, I
don't know what the repercussions are. I have no idea
what the repercussions are.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You assume it's going to be handled case by case.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I mean assuming in most cases it's going to be ignored.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Ah what what if some other people can point to
that person getting preference preferential treatment? Point, now you got
a problem on your hands. No, and you know who
doesn't have time for this, Aaron certainly not.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah no, but nothing would happen now, I mean you
may get talked to Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
What what's copiggie gonna sit you down?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Go through the Okay, are you also keeping a secret?
Are you trying to hide it?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, I'm not good Bianca and I aren't making love
on her desk.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
But I didn't know if you guys were.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
What are we like walking in holding hands? Oh, i'll
see you after the shift.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, I was gonna say, are you walking holding hands?
And then the second you get to the building we
let go? Not even then someone goes ahead and you
wait outside for Dustin to get off metro.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Oh funny sceneing you here?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I just got here, just got here, just got here.
Now you guys are both yeah, both about arrival times. See,
it's a that's it's going to be a slip flopper.