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August 18, 2023 28 mins
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(00:00):
What was the Game of Thrones catfishingthing from yesterday? I was opposed on
X. Remind me what it said. So we're during the step siblings conversation,
right. The listener said they werecole growing up with the step but
then the Step as they both gotolder kind of started becoming a burden on

(00:25):
the family living at home and currentlybelieved he was about to get into a
relationship with We didn't say it wasbut a Game of Thrones actress, an
actress was talking daily with whom hebelieved was her family and friends. Okay,
can we revisit that for one second? Is there nobody believes that it

(00:50):
sounds like no, but what thatnobody believes that the that the regular person
is really on the verge of hookingup with a Game of Thrones actress,
correct, but thinks that they arethe step seld Yes, yes, really
believe that they were. Yes,So it was just it was somebody obviously

(01:12):
pretending to be whoever the Game ofThrones actresses and whatever version of catfishing.
Yeah, now, isn't it weirdthat two days in a row we get
a story like that from a listener? Well, no, no, no,
this one isn't from a listener,but this one I was reading about
this woman who I don't. Idon't watch Stranger Things at all. I

(01:37):
mean I did the first season threeepisodes. However, there's a character on
you used to watch, right,I mean it's been a while, but
Billy Oh yeah, Daker Montgomery.Yeah, Saya Montgomery is the Australian.
Yeah right, yes, it soundslike she's about to give you his life.
He's very attractive to follow him,really excellent. Yeah, like not

(02:01):
hot on the show, right,because that's his persona right, but man
in person. I mean I've neverseen him in person, unfortunately, but
very hands the No, I wasgonna say, I've never seen him at
all, but I saw some picturesof him when I was reading this story.
He's a model. No, he'sa very attractive guy. He was
in the Elvis movie too. Whowas he in Elvis? He played one

(02:22):
of the producers in Elvis? Iknow that, No, he was not.
He played one of the producers forthe comeback special. Oh really?
Yeah? Oh okay, oh wow? Does he have Does he have longer
hair at all in the show?In the show, he does. In
the show. He has classic eighties, like like heavy metal mullet. I
will tell you this. He is. He's I mean, he's very well

(02:43):
built, but he's got a goodbody, thank you, Diane. No,
he's a very good looking, verygood looking gentleman. He is twenty
eight years old. So there's thiswoman that I was reading about in Kentucky
and she's divorced and like she hadshe had a very it just sounds like

(03:08):
it was. I mean, obviouslyit was a bad marriage. She ended
up getting divorced. And she saidthat her act was, you know,
a little bit controlling and stuff forwhatever reason they got divorced. Anyway,
this woman has been emailing and chattingand talking to not on the phone,
but corresponding with Billy from Stranger Things. Right, but clearly it's not him.

(03:35):
It's not him at all. AndI guess in real life, what's
his name again, Daker that he'sgot he's got her in real life has
an actress girlfriend. Well, butit's not it's not And I'll tell you
why. So this woman gets intoa on online yeah. Oh and then
somebody writes something down, say Caseyto main police. Yeah from the pit

(04:00):
the But anyway, so this womanfrom Kentucky is talking to him online who
she takes as him, right,and they're communicating and they're going back and
forth and messaging each other and messagingeach other, and it goes on for
about six seven, eight months,and then Daker says to the Kentucky woman

(04:20):
like kind of just throws out thereof like we should date, like we
should like I'm starting to like takethis to the next level exactly. And
then he asked her for money,asked her for ten thousand dollars because an
actor wouldn't need money from her wellbecause of the strike. No, neither

(04:43):
of those are true. I'll oncewe're ready to be serious again. I
think that is a legitimate it's not, he says to her. Listen,
my girlfriend live is her name,the actress? I just let her live
Pollock live pol Like that's right there, she is. Holy, yeah,

(05:05):
I almost forgot about Heidi Klum's daughter. Oh my god, Yane, Oh
my god. I think that's aboomerang. By the way, it is
the in my pand no, no, you know, can I tangent for
one second? No? No,can I tangent for bringing that cliff?

(05:26):
I don't know, but it's oneof those where like, I love that
bikini because it's on but barely,Like if you got over the top of
that, you could look right downand see dessert like it is right,
that's hot. That is hot.It's a reliable knit. But do you
does an see what's happening the splashstare at the beginning? Yeah, somebodys

(05:47):
starting water on her there? Itis probably take her? What do what
do Live Pollock and Jen have incommon? Neither of them have one hair
on their butt hole. Wow.So anyway, so that's Live Pollock.

(06:10):
That's this billy guy's care or dakerguy's girlfriend. So he says, hey,
listen, Kentucky lady. By theway, I've seen Kentucky lady.
What does that mean. I've seenKentucky lady. You know I could she
she's she's nice, but you knowwhat she does not look like Live Pollock?
Is she have bikini model? Who'sthat? Live? She's only in

(06:31):
bikinis on her Instagram? God bless. So anyway, he says, listen,
I need to borrow ten thousand dollars. I'm breaking up with Live oh
and we have a joint account,so it's I can't just because of the
breakup. I can't just go taketen thousand dollars out. She sent him

(06:56):
ten grand. Of course, nowshe has come to realize that it's probably
not Billy is how she describes it. Probably well, She goes on and
says that she's obsessed with stranger things. His character is just this bully.

(07:17):
He kind of comes in tries todominate, which is totally unlike his real
personality. They bonded over Daker Ohyeah, Daker vent oh, the Daker
venting to her about his partner beingvery controlling of him. He's not dating

(07:40):
Aaron. I'm no, make that'smy doctor Phil. Remember with the whole
NICKI six this stuff. Let's leavethe impression Sally will play the doctor Phil
that for a comparison. This isall I have cued up. No,
I empathize with that because my exhusband was that way. About a year

(08:03):
after we kind of admitted feelings foreach other. He said, you know,
there's nothing like the feeling of lovewhen it's reciprocated. And I said
what, And then he said,I'm indirectly asking you out anyway, the
two of them, Yes, thetwo of them. And then he asked

(08:28):
her for money and she gives itto him, and now obviously it's not
real. But you know where.So number one, why would you think
that you're dating anybody famous? LikeI don't. I don't know this guy.
But if you, if you're afan of the show, you know
he's famous. And yes, heI don't know what his relationship is with

(08:50):
Live right now. They may betogether, they may be breaking up.
I have no idea I can fixit by sending him that boomerang. But
look in the mirror, Elliott.By the way, I'm being one hundred
percent serious. If you think that'snot how you're supposed to spot a scam.
Okay, let's let's it's just thescenario that plays out in all of

(09:11):
them. Oh okay, so let'slet's use Live. And she may be
a bikini model, she may bean actress. I don't know. I
know nothing. Here's what I knowabout Live. Not a hair on her
butt hole, and her bikini isis somewhat loose around the top. If
I'm chatting with her for a yearonline, there's there's a good chance it's

(09:35):
not her. I could look inthe mirror and go she could probably do
a little better than me. ButYou've won her over with your charm.
I've never met her, David,you're talking to her. Well you're not,
You're not actually talking to talk toright, But that's where you got
to go. It's not them thatlive isn't going to spend a year celibate

(09:58):
waiting on Ma to send her tengrand. But these people, as this
is not the first Catfish a celebritystory. These people are told by close
friends and family members you're being scammed, and they don't believe them. That's
why you got to look in themirror. That no, you do.
You have to look in the mirror. And we took that Washington Post quiz
last week. At no point intrying to determine whether or not those questions

(10:22):
were scammed, did they recommend lookingin the mirror? Let's see? Is
it geek squad? Let me lookin the mirror. Let's see that's a
supermodel. Of course she would probablywant me. Hey, check out this
muffin top. Oh, that's that'sthe one. I gotta have. Come
on. Oh, the step steplingfrom yesterday is checking in. Oh really,

(10:43):
this is the one. This isthe one where it's around. There
is a Catfish episode where the guyis convinced he's going to marry Katie Perry,
and it's literally playing out like thatfor my step brother. He is
convinced that he's going to end upwith the act as he had to give
her money. It's truly sad tosee him wasting time on something not real.

(11:05):
But you know what, how doesit? How does it happen?
He must be really good looking.No, look at well, number one,
Look in the mirror. Okay,look at I've seen the woman from
Kentucky. No, no, butI'm telling you, what if? Did
you ever see that the actress?I don't know. I have no idea
who the actress is. Okay,I'm just gonna again. We're not gonna

(11:26):
say the name. I'm gonna showyou a picture of her. You you
definitely are familiar with her. Iknow exactly who that is. Okay,
Yeah, look in the mirror.You don't know what the step brother looks
like. I can tell you.Here's what I can tell you. What
if it's Daker Montgomery? So nowhe's cheating on my Kentucky girl with a
Game of Thrones actress like I canthink of some like character actors or actresses,

(11:50):
but not that. And again,I you're right, I don't know
what the stepbrother looks like, butis it? Is it the Hemsworth brothers,
because that's that's not getting with her. Sorry, I don't see Billy
showing up for the next red carpetwith Kentucky lady. Doesn't she have a

(12:11):
name? I mean using her identity? It just it just seems unfair to
the state now. And the reasonI said to mention Casey, Kristian,
will you will you just would willyou just ask Casey if it's okay if
I mentioned her Tinder thing, doyou want her to come in and do

(12:31):
it herself? Just got a textfrom Joseph that says, I bet it
is, It's okay. So Caseywas telling me this goes back a couple
of months ago. She was like, hey, Elliott, you would know
who this is. I matched withsomeone on Tinder and like, and they
didn't. They didn't end up likecoffid or anything. But she matched with

(12:54):
somebody famous on Tinder. Famous,yes, but and I'll tell you who
it is and you're gonna go,okay, well that's not Daker Montgomery and
it's not like I know who heis that you could be hot and not
famous. You just can't be.This guy's a professionals and not hot,

(13:15):
A professional sports star. Yeah,but is he a hockey player? Yeah?
Is this person okay with you revealingthis? Yeah, that's not my
problem. He also doesn't live hereanymore. Did he do her dirty?
Is that comfortable? Did her atall? Elliott? You know what I'm
saying? No? I don't thinkso. Will you ask ask? Just
ask Casey if they hooked up andyou've been holding onto this, No,

(13:41):
b I just found out the nametoday. I knew the story, but
she didn't remember who the name was. She said, don't say anything more.
No, they didn't hook up.They didn't hook up, but they
matched on Tinder, and it's afamous to you hockey player. He played
here. He does not play hereanymore. He had a great year last
year. His boss is Josh Harris. All right, so plays for the

(14:05):
Devils. Yeah, Seagen Thaller,are you serious? Yeah? They matched
on Tinder? How hot is that? How hot? Is that? So
hot? I wouldn't I own asSeagan Thaller. I would know him.
I would know him if there werea million people walking down the street.

(14:26):
I'd be able to pick him out. Okay, a good little hockey player.
Do you find him attractive? Wouldyou rub your hands all over his
body? Because he wanted to Caseyto do that to him. Hey,
if you're not going to do ayeah. So segen Thaller and Casey matched

(14:46):
up on tinder. Okay, sobut how much did they talk? I
don't know. I have to getthe rest of the story. I was
trying to get the rest of that. But then I was listening to dust
and yack at me about the phones. Why today is she telling people this
story out there? No, shehad told it before, but she didn't
remember who the hockey player was.So she did the research and she was

(15:09):
like, hey, I don't know. I know. She was like,
I was able to find out whothe hockey player was. She goes,
I think it's Yonis, at whichpoint I yelled seeing Faller, and she
was like, oh my god.Yes, she wasn't talking out there to
Alice because you hit her right.No, So anyway, where was I?

(15:31):
Oh? But back to Kentucky,lady three one two area code.
The you don't you don't you knowwhat I mean? Like, you look
at the mirror, you're not good. You're not dating somebody famous. Life
hurts the thank you? Thank you? What does that mean? It's means

(15:52):
be real to yourself. Yeah,thank you. I have an honest conversation,
albeit in your head, with yourselfand come to a reasonable conclusion.
I hate to say this, Itruly do. I truly do. But
there's someone Diane that you adore andfind very attractive in Hollywood who does not

(16:15):
find himself in a relationship with asupermodel. Oh what was that Wolverine?
Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah,but she's she's attractive. Oh where was
that? All? Accepting? Iroll? But isn't But isn't she famous

(16:36):
though she's an actress? Yeah,but a lot of people are always surprised,
Yeah, that it doesn't have thebody type of who you think Hugh
Jackman would be with. So ifshe were to look in the mirror,
she would see an actress. Youknow what. My girl in Kentucky sees
nothing. She's also fifteen years olderthan Yeah. No, it is an

(17:00):
odd one. It's also an anomaly. Did they meet on were they both
stage actors? I don't know wherethey met. Now all I have and
I think I still have it,Well, I have Phil laughing. I
remember we did I save this?Yes? I did. I am saying
Hi to Hugh Jackman. Hi amdoing great. Hi, the one time

(17:25):
in my life that I'll get totalk to him, because I know I'm
not going to get catfished by afake Hugh Jackman. By the way,
I bet you could. I betif he were like now, listen,
I got rid of Mama. NowI am not that stupid Dan. Earlier
today, Jean Marco thought you wereout sick because you didn't say anything,
Hi. Hi. If he's ifhe started uh like DM and you,

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you'd be like, oh my god, I'm getting it on with you Jackman,
Stop it. This is fake?What if? What if? But
what if it was real? Itwouldn't be You don't know that. There
is not a chance in hell thatwould happen. Say hello. There is
not say hello to her, you'rethe scammer. But say hello as Hugh
Jackman. Oh, Hello, wheream I going? Like one? Hiyllia

(18:25):
in the morning. Hello, Yeah, Hi, who's ass? My name
is Louiam. I'm sorry Malia,Lou Anne Anne. Oh, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry the phone cut out.We're having phone problems. Yes,
yes, yes, yes, louAnne. Well, my sister is being

(18:47):
scammed by the main actor of Outlanders. Wait, somebody pretending to be the
lead actor of from Outlanders. Ohyeah, yeah, and she is out
forty thousand dollars Jesus christains forty grandAre you serious? Yes, I am,

(19:08):
And you' all have probably had countlessconversations with her about this. Oh
yes. We even received the emailfrom his main support because he knows that
this is being done, and wehad the real actor knows yes, and
he sent an email to my niecesaying, you know, this is not

(19:29):
me. I would not ask formoney, and my sister was still falling
fort she go for They were supposedto go to Ireland. Oh that's cool.
Oh yeah, she sent him seventeenthousand dollars with a trip. Oh
my god, Oh my god.And she never wants and then there's they
come up with like a million excuses. You know, she you know what

(19:52):
the problem? Yea. She evenhad to go buy her own personal airline
ticket and somehow they got to herand told her the airline was delayed for
her to cash in her ticket,that they would send a personal plane for
her. Oh that's cool, Likeyou know, like you know, you

(20:12):
know, you know, you knowwhat's sad to me? Well, I
mean, the whole scenario is,I'm I'm I'm sitting on I'm sitting on
a fence right now between I feelI feel bad. I really do feel
badly for your sister. But atthe same time, like I tried to,
I try to, I try togo if that were my kid,

(20:32):
right, So my kid calls meand goes, oh my god, I'm
dating the guy from Outlanders. I'vegiven him forty thousand dollars. Part of
me, part of me would wantto, like would be sad and be
like, how do how do howdo we get you at Like I'm frustrated?
How do we get you out ofthis? How do we make you
see the light? The actual actoris calling you and telling you it's not
me? And then the other partof me is I would want to I'd

(20:53):
be so angry where I would wantto be like I can't talk to you
anymore, Like I you're stupid,Like I can't talk to you, and
I'm not I'm not calling your sisterstupid, but you know what I mean,
Like you're kind of on that fencebetween oh my god, look in
the mirror. How dumb can yoube? Like you're stupid, Like you
want to slap him across the faceand tell him to snap out of it.

(21:15):
Oh, believe me if we alldo. Yeah. Yeah, it's
been going on since I would sayequal. Oh my god, how did
she end up? Like how didshe have so much money in such a
short period of time? Well,yeah, but I mean they'd play on
going up in Ireland? Yeah yeah, And he sent her a contract for

(21:36):
a condo they were going to buyin Uba, and he said did he
needed sixty five thousand dollars for it? Oh my god, that's really sad
that that, like that really bothersme. And I also want to hit
her because people are like, youknow, getting up their life savings.
Yes, oh it's horrible, likethat's that's money, that's money will never

(22:00):
get back. He look out ofher retirement account to give him this money,
and she was sending him bitcoin.Oh, by the way, if
it makes your feel I'll give herall my dogs, I'll give her every
last bit of it. No,but that again, like you were saying,
and how old? How old yoursister? He just turned seventy seventy?

(22:26):
Hello, how wild, how wild? Seventy? How old is the
Outlanders guy? Well? This isit. If you look at him and
you see my sister, you're likereally will like you think we're gonna be
thank you look in the mirror likethat's that? That's how that's the guy?
Is it? Is it Sam?Is it Sam Hewan? Is that

(22:48):
how you say his name? Yeah? Okay, he's right, and no
disrespect, but he's a forty threeyear old. He's a good looking guy.
He's not he's not climbing up theold age tree. And can I
can I ask you this? CanI ask you this about your sister?

(23:11):
And I'm not I'm not trying tobe rude, but like, mentally,
your sister's all there right Well,I mean obviously she's crazy in this bit,
but like she's not suffering from likedementia and stuff like that. Oh
no, no, right now.He has been linked to a model in

(23:33):
the past. Let me check outher instagram. I hope, I hope
it's a boomerango one. Jesus Christ, Diane. Everyone every one of these
stars date somebody and it's like they'relike, why even wear a top?
Every every famous actress and model we'vetalked about today. I've seen all of

(23:57):
their butt cheeks, every one ofthem. Oh, I feel horrible for
your sister. I thought you weregoing to say your sister was like really
young and like young and dumb.Yeah, no, that's true. All
right, very good. Well Idon't well, I don't know how to

(24:18):
leave this, but thank you,thank you, good luck. Yeah,
it's like I hope she comes toher senses. Are you still looking over
my shoulder at this Instagram? She'sremarkable. Her name is Monica Clark by
the way, Okay, she hada name, look at her. Yeah,

(24:40):
Oh my god, Diane, there'sanother one that will never drown.
Phrase the day. It's the phrasethat saves hi, Yellie at the morning?
Hi with me? Yeah? Hi? Who's this? Hey Elliott?
I'm the one who tweeted about mysense fabling convinced that he's in a relationship.

(25:06):
Are going to be in a relationshipwith the game of their infectors?
Oh? Yeah, okay, Andwe're still not saying anything, and that's
fine, that's fine. No,I got to keep it vague because my
family's local and I don't know whoor if they listen, so no,
but do they do? I hope. So the But does does the whole
family know about your stepbrother and histhis? This? They do know,

(25:30):
they know, and like they're tryingto taking the soft and hard approach to
like shake some sense in them,and it's just there's no getting through to
them at all. And I'm trying. I'm trying to remember because of the
stories, is is your stepbrother outany money? I don't think so,

(25:51):
not that I'm aware, Yeah,I mean really, I don't. Really.
The whole thing is kind of like, you know, ostracize everybody from
kind of one another because it's likewhat you say to them. But but
you said in the tweet yesterday orthe post on accessory. Do you say
like lives at home and the basementis mooching off the family? Yeah?

(26:12):
I mean who? But like peoplehave like better straight out of them,
Like what do you have to offerthis girl? Thank you? Yeah?
Exactly, Like you know, you'vegot no job, you're living at home,
no disrespect, And I know Tylerkeeps trying to stand up for your

(26:33):
step brother, but I bet ifI saw him, I wouldn't go,
like, how is this guy noton the cover of like GQ, Like
he's probably not like model looking andthe woman that he thinks that he's with
is gorgeous, and I know,Hugh Jackman, but still like that,
what that's a once in a lifetimer. But you look at that and you
go, there's what why? Whywhy would you believe it's going Tell me

(26:56):
that you met at a bar andhe took you back and you guys banged
out one night, or you youyou you tender matched with with Jonas Seagenthaler.
Fine, but you're not in ayear long, never even talk to
you relationship with somebody famous. Yes, I know, And it's absolutely like

(27:18):
a mental health thing. I mean, there's an episode of Catfish where this
guy is convinced that he is likegoing to marry Katy Perry, right,
And once I saw that, I'mjust like, oh my god, this
is a situation that's playing out inmy family right now? Is it?
But is it a case of isit just a case of where, at

(27:40):
a very vulnerable moment, right forwhatever reason, it into your life comes
somebody who's rich, somebody who's famous. It's somebody somebody who sweeps you off
your feet, and that in thatyou can't break that bubble. You cannot
break that bo That's what it is. There was, you know, and

(28:03):
was like, and why would Ilisten to Why would I listen to everybody?
Why would I listen to everybody inmy family who's being negative and nasty,
calling me stupid, telling me I'mugly, like all of these things.
Why would I do that? TheStar of Outlanders is telling me he
loves me and I'm beautiful, Sowhy would I listen to ushbox? That's

(28:25):
exactly It's like the you know,that's what I've come to conclude. I'm
like, you know what, it'sjust there's nothing you can do. You
kind of just have to let themhopefully figure it out. By the way,
I am the perfect victim of acatfish. All right, very good,
Well, you gotta let us knowhow it goes. I don't know.

(28:47):
It's been a few years already,so I don't know that that's gonna
resolve. Yeah, that's all right. Well, I'll be hopefully I'll be
here for a couple of years more
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