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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm a man in his mid thirties who holds a
specialist role in an organization that I like. I've recently
started sharing a closed workspace with an early twenties woman
who works in a different department. She's a nice, professional, bright,
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younger person who seems to be doing quite well in
her role and is generally an ideal person to share
an office with.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So far, so good.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The only catch is that her behavior towards me seems
to be getting flirtatious in a way I don't totally
know how to address. Okay, it involves her thong.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's very specific.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
One day, not long after she began, she walked back
from what must have been a meeting, sat down at
her desk, and I noticed she took her thumbs under
her slacks and deliberately pulled up the waistband of her thong.
She then turned her head around, saw me noticing, and
kind of smiled nervously.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Who did it?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
The woman? The thong lady. Ever since then, I've noticed
most days whenever we're in the same workspace, her thong
seems intentionally visible. To make it clear, I'm not interested
in her in any way. Not only is she too
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young for me, but I'm staunchly against workplace things for
a whole host of reasons. But her behavior also isn't
aggressive or overbearing, and reads more like a kid who's
barely out of college having a workplace crush and not
realizing you shouldn't try flirting with your colleagues in the
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same way you would a guy in your lecture class.
We work in different departments. She isn't abusing a power dynamic.
I am much more of her senior, and it's not
like she's coming over and trying to sit on my
lap or something. If anything, she normally seems pretty shy.
I also think we all remember having a crush on
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a slightly older colleague when we were young, and it
looks like I might have ended up as this to her.
On the other hand, I'd like to somehow gently let
this very young adult know this really isn't workplace appropriate
without making her feel shamed or get her unduly in trouble.
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There also seems no way to talk to her or
her manager about seeing her underwear that wouldn't potentially make
me sound like a creep.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, first story, he was looking at her.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
She's ultimately a nice young person who is broadly professional
and respectful towards her colleagues and otherwise isn't doing anything wrong.
Any recommendations on how I can address this, even subtly,
sincerely not the thong police, Right, How does that get answered?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, it's he kind of like shut himself down when
he's like, well, I don't want to get a manager involved, right,
but I don't want to say anything to her. But
I mean it's kind of like he's limiting himself. Well, yes,
but and I don't think to me, it's common sense
that that's not appropriate workplace behavior.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
To where a thong to work hit.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
No hitching it up so you can see it.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, but maybe it was just like this should be
like Dane, you make it sound like she turned around.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
No, but you even said you said she even turned
around and glanced at him. Well, maybe that was that
was that was no learning.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Maybe as she was pulling them up, she like just
noticed out of her peripheral and was like, oh, sorry, you.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Did say that. The expression on her face, That's why
I clarified who who looked? What was it that looked
a little sorry or embarrassed?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So was she looking around the room? To make sure
no one saw her.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
She turned her head around, saw me noticing, and smiled nervously.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Nervous. Nervous.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, So she wasn't like, I want to see what's
under here, No, she was like nip it in the bud, Diane.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So if there was something, what a song does.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
If he's he's asking for advice, you're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Over and say something. I can see your thong.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I mean, I know, he just says he doesn't want
to get a manager involved.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You can't go get him.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
What are you gonna say to a manager?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But at the same time, what if this is what
if she's not getting any notice from this, and then
she starts to like amp it up and get a
little bit more obvious that well, then so he should
just do nothing right now?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
What is there what is there to do?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I'm he's asking for advice.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I've seen people in this office, I've seen their underwear.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It's it's tough, though, because this definitely is addressing multiple issues,
like what it's not just workplace attire.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Even it's not against workplace attire to wear a thong.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I understand that, But that's a big part of the story,
is the underwear.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And it being physically is so, but it's also.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The behavior, the unwanted advances, or the flirt you don't wanted.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Advances, she said, upper underwear, but you kind of like
anyone do.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Like this office has its own problems, and we're a
great example of how difficult it is to talk to
people about appropriate workplace dress because every single day someone
here is wearing something that should not be allowed. But
clearly the managers I just I just saw yesterday, the
managers are afraid to say something, and or maybe they
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just don't care. No, I really think if you have
clients in the building, you don't want these people addressed
these ways, these ways, But you it's it's a it's
a touchy subject. It's it's sensitive, so I get it's
hard to deal with. But then on top of that,
like you said, it's just her underwear and she was
adjusting herself, but she's also behaving inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
If it was if it has a single instance like that,
the guy wouldn't be writing to ask for advice. It's
it's got to be a compounding of different things.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
How is she how is she acting inappropriate? He described
in great that I could see her underwear every day.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
No, not just clothing related.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, she's not, he says, she's not coming over and
sitting on my lap.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yes, but he's saying what she's doing is making him uncomfortable,
and she needs to be because it shouldn't be allowed
in the office, needs to be taking care of.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
So what it be?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Okay if I could see her granny panty?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
No, my god, you keep going back to the undergarment.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's what it is in her thong. She's like, eh,
dongy No.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It's also just the way she's interacting with him now,
she's not. He said it was flirty.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
To him because he could see her underwear.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
It wasn't just the one time.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But he could see it all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So what But he talked about she's maybe caught up
in a crush, like this guy could be a narcissist. Yeah,
you reading the situation.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
By the way, you could call her in and go, hey,
do you have a do you have a crush on?
Not the thong police, and she'd be like, that's skeevy
old man. Nore like, well, you're showing him, you're showing
him your underwear that I'm not showing him my underwear,
My underwear is showing.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Have you ever and I know, I know you've seen
people the way I.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Can tell you that I've seen people's underwear and and
and and and I'll tell you what if you're if
your if your tails hanging out over your pants, I'm
looking at it every day.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But have you ever seen what he described?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
What's that of somebody pulling up their underwear in the
in the office?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
No, that seems weird to go into your pants at
your desk.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Okay, but you make it sound you agree.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
No, Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It would be like if I were like, oh, you
know what, and I don't look. I want you to look. No,
if I was just like no, but I just pulled
up my waistband on my on my boxers. I'm not shot.
I'm not digging in there to pull them up into
the bathroom stalls. Oh my god, to scratch my side.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
In his pants.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And I'm not going into the bathroom doing just my
underwear my underwear band.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
But people do that.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
No, you yes, you definitely do.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
If you saw somebody who's somebody in sales, who's somebody
in sales?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Colin the no, not Colin.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I don't like using him. He gets all offended because
of his beanie baby. Okay, so if Caruso every day
was wearing you know sometimes if you wear a belt,
the belt who pulls down a little bit here? So
every day if this is all you could see, right,
just a little bit of underwear.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
For gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
No, you could just see waistband on Caruso. Would you
be like, oh my god, he's flirting with me.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
That's a completely different thing.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
This needs to stop, This needs to stop. No, I
could walk around I'm being honest, I could walk around
with just my underwear pulled up a little bit. Can
you see that?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Can you see that?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Are you not doing anything wrong?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I am not doing anything wrong. I'm going about my day,
my shoes untied. I could do that and the whole Diane,
you're gonna be over there going like, oh, well, here
you go. He's got a crush on me. He's showing
me his underwear.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Different. How How is it just because because you're not
you're not aware jacking jacking him up with your thumbs
and then turning around coyly and looking over your shoulder.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Turned around and noticed him and was nervously smiled. She
didn't go want some.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
But like I said, this this is a chronic thing.
Because why is he writing into it an advice column
about it?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Because maybe she wears low riders and the underpants sticks
up higher.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Okay, you're in the workforce, you know better.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Listen there Sometimes is this gonna make me sound creep?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
There have been No, there have been times that there
have been women at this office.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
No, no, he didn't call him Brad.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
No, No, there are times that there have been women
at this office who have warned skirts. And I've seen
I've seen not from the back. I've seen squirrel cover
from the front. I swear to God.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I swear to God, like basic instinct style.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
They didn't cross their legs in front of me, hoping
I would let them out of some legal situation.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I was in my cell phone underneath their desk.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No, but sometimes if you're having if you're having a meeting, and.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
How long is this conference room table?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
No? No, no, but.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Can I say very quickly only because I have I
have a meeting every Tuesday with Kristin Haley and in Casey.
I've not seen any of their underwears. Okay, I've not
seen I bet one of them doesn't even wear it.
The kristin. No, I haven't seen any of their underweares.
But in that meeting, how do we sit. We're not
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all sitting at a table, We're essentially all sitting in
our chairs in a circle, looking at each other. I
have been in plenty of meetings like that, and somebody
will move and I see up their skirts.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Now there used to be a fourth person in those
meetings before she moved away.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Oh Jamie, No, No, I never saw Jamie's underwear.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
This so remember.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I saw the old laser laser. No. But I don't
want I don't want any of them to think it's them.
But I've seen people here is underwear don't go to
I don't go to.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But that's what he doesn't want, right because.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
He doesn't want to make a big deal out of it.
But he's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Why because he can see her underwear straps grow up.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
There's obviously more than one thing going on, But it
also seems like he doesn't want her to find herself
at the.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Wrong end of discipline.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, well, I guess discipline there are it's not a
good end of discipline, But he wants to almost like
help her along. She's he complimented her multiple times.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, he's like, she's she's green, she's green, and she
needs to learn how to adult.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
That that is adulting. Adults wear thongs.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
You don't show them at the workplace.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh my god, it's unintentional. Line one, Hi, Elliet in
the morning?
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Hey this?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Hey this?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
This guy's an old creep. He It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
He's just like thinking that she's flirting with her.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
She's not.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It's so stupid. She's just I've had.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Thongs that are a little bit bigger and when you
sit down, they kind of go down and you kind
of reach in and you pull them up a little bit,
otherwise they're going to get baggy. Yes, And it's it's ridiculous.
It's he's flattering himself. It's ridiculous to think that she's flirting.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Right. And by the way, so what is the real answer,
What is the real answer.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
The real answer is he needs to stop like pretending
that she's interested in him.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And just you want to know what the you want
to know what the advice column said, This girl's doing
nothing wrong. Stop looking. Stop looking if.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
She's adjusting her bra strap or something.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
That Half the times I know Dia comes in in
the morning, she's like, uh, it was a rough car
ride in let me adjust here?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And does she move in the bra?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I got three fourths of a titty out like it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
No, But the.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
The thank you. No, the advice person says, why don't
you stop looking? But do they address the visible underwear, dear,
not the thong police. I have a very simple way
for you not to be the thong police. Don't look.
Keep your eyes up. If you are constantly seeing a thong,
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that just sort of tells me that you're constantly looking
at your colleagues waste and or butt. Is a visible
thong appropriate in the office, No, of course not. But
having a conversation about your much younger colleagues underwear in
the office is going to make you seem like a creep.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Which he was worried about.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yes, so nobody's doing anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, no, they definitely did. Yes, the underwear.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's not intentional. I'm not intentionally showing my waistband, but
said it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
That's a problem.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
If it happens dozens of times, you can't say, Oh,
it's not intentional.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It's not like right now as I sit here, I
don't know if anybody can see my underwear, so I
don't know if it's intentional or not.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But then then you get a smaller thong. Yeah, get
rid of the thong.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
He get it?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Geester Li Hi, Elliot in the morning?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Is this me? Yes? Hi?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yes hi.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
My name is Anthony. I'm very glad you brought up
this subject, Elliott, because I got a juicy one for you.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
It's way worse than what you're hearing right now. I
definitely agree disagree with the woman. They are just called
that the guy is flattering himself. A lot of these
younger women are specifically pretty women do it on purpose
to tease you. Trust me when I tell you that,
how possible?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Well tell me why tell me why I am trusting you?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Oh I will, Oh, I will. I've seen it. I've
seen it over the time, so I work in the
data set. Is that Amazon? This this story I'm going
to tell you is just one part. I'm going to
tell you the real bad story, this one with spandex
all the time to work spandex, which really is not allowed.
It's an Amazon employee twenty years old. You can see everything.
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Don't tell me she's not doing it on purpose.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Please, what do you What are you see? You're not
seeing anything.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You can see everything through the span that you can
see the donkstrap going down, and she knows it and
she enjoys it. That's just one story. And now I'm
going to tell you the one that's affecting me.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I got a mona.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I have a female that's working with me who's twenty
nine years old. Right, okay, I'm sixty. I'm sixty. We're
very close in the office. From the moment she arrived there.
Maybe on the third day. I do, I'm security, I
do vehicle Potroc's in the car, me telling me, oh,
I'm a pretty woman. I know how to treat them men,
I can't seem to keep them. It got worse from there.
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She used to talk. She talks hard, hardcore sexual. She
has said things like this, I had sex the other night.
The sex was so damn good. This guy's peeks, very
very thin, skinny. She started talking about how she can't
work as him. She's saying it in front of me,
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where I can't help but put my face right there
in the lap. Okay, she she has claimed she loves
I mean, I'm talking right two on, two feet away
from her.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
She is sir, sir, sir.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
And then when you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Hold on, let me catch up, let me catch up,
let me catch up.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And when you asked her, she says, now, so you
go figure it out. She invites you in, and then
you start saying, well, I look, it looks like I
can get in here. She'll say no to you all
the time. She is extremely flirtationism.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
He has the crazy Wait so did you ask her out?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Well? Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey I did not ask her out,
ask her for sock straight up?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
You just straight out as her fors Okay, wait a minute, Elliott,
what is she talking about?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
I well, I well, part of it I had to dump,
but I got you say to Diane what you said
to her? Ask Diane out the way, ask Diane for
sex the way you asked her for sex.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Oh no, no, no, she's talking about sex.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No, I know that's Diane.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Man, she's talked about it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
To stop. You gotta stop, you gotta stop, hold on,
hold on, and are you guys hiring.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Getting story time today?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I love that guy, that's my favorite guy, but you had.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
To let him go. Good luck with the quilting
I'm a man in his mid thirties who holds a
specialist role in an organization that I like. I've recently
started sharing a closed workspace with an early twenties woman
who works in a different department. She's a nice, professional, bright,
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younger person who seems to be doing quite well in
her role and is generally an ideal person to share
an office with.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So far, so good.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The only catch is that her behavior towards me seems
to be getting flirtatious in a way I don't totally
know how to address. Okay, it involves her thong.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's very specific.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
One day, not long after she began, she walked back
from what must have been a meeting, sat down at
her desk, and I noticed she took her thumbs under
her slacks and deliberately pulled up the waistband of her thong.
She then turned her head around, saw me noticing, and
kind of smiled nervously.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Who did it?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
The woman? The thong lady. Ever since then, I've noticed
most days whenever we're in the same workspace, her thong
seems intentionally visible. To make it clear, I'm not interested
in her in any way. Not only is she too
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young for me, but I'm staunchly against workplace things for
a whole host of reasons. But her behavior also isn't
aggressive or overbearing, and reads more like a kid who's
barely out of college having a workplace crush and not
realizing you shouldn't try flirting with your colleagues in the
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same way you would a guy in your lecture class.
We work in different departments. She isn't abusing a power dynamic.
I am much more of her senior, and it's not
like she's coming over and trying to sit on my
lap or something. If anything, she normally seems pretty shy.
I also think we all remember having a crush on
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a slightly older colleague when we were young, and it
looks like I might have ended up as this to her.
On the other hand, I'd like to somehow gently let
this very young adult know this really isn't workplace appropriate
without making her feel shamed or get her unduly in trouble.
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There also seems no way to talk to her or
her manager about seeing her underwear that wouldn't potentially make
me sound like a creep.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, first story, he was looking at her.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
She's ultimately a nice young person who is broadly professional
and respectful towards her colleagues and otherwise isn't doing anything wrong.
Any recommendations on how I can address this, even subtly,
sincerely not the thong police, Right, How does that get answered?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, it's he kind of like shut himself down when
he's like, well, I don't want to get a manager involved, right,
but I don't want to say anything to her. But
I mean it's kind of like he's limiting himself. Well, yes,
but and I don't think to me, it's common sense
that that's not appropriate workplace behavior.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
To where a thong to work hit.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
No hitching it up so you can see it.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, but maybe it was just like this should be
like Dane, you make it sound like she turned around.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
No, but you even said you said she even turned
around and glanced at him. Well, maybe that was that
was that was no learning.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Maybe as she was pulling them up, she like just
noticed out of her peripheral and was like, oh, sorry, you.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Did say that. The expression on her face, That's why
I clarified who who looked? What was it that looked
a little sorry or embarrassed?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So was she looking around the room? To make sure
no one saw her.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
She turned her head around, saw me noticing, and smiled nervously.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Nervous. Nervous.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, So she wasn't like, I want to see what's
under here, No, she was like nip it in the bud, Diane.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So if there was something, what a song does.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
If he's he's asking for advice, you're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Over and say something. I can see your thong.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I mean, I know, he just says he doesn't want
to get a manager involved.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You can't go get him.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
What are you gonna say to a manager?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But at the same time, what if this is what
if she's not getting any notice from this, and then
she starts to like amp it up and get a
little bit more obvious that well, then so he should
just do nothing right now?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
What is there what is there to do?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I'm he's asking for advice.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I've seen people in this office, I've seen their underwear.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It's it's tough, though, because this definitely is addressing multiple issues,
like what it's not just workplace attire.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Even it's not against workplace attire to wear a thong.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I understand that, But that's a big part of the story,
is the underwear.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And it being physically is so, but it's also.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The behavior, the unwanted advances, or the flirt you don't wanted.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Advances, she said, upper underwear, but you kind of like
anyone do.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Like this office has its own problems, and we're a
great example of how difficult it is to talk to
people about appropriate workplace dress because every single day someone
here is wearing something that should not be allowed. But
clearly the managers I just I just saw yesterday, the
managers are afraid to say something, and or maybe they
(06:06):
just don't care. No, I really think if you have
clients in the building, you don't want these people addressed
these ways, these ways, But you it's it's a it's
a touchy subject. It's it's sensitive, so I get it's
hard to deal with. But then on top of that,
like you said, it's just her underwear and she was
adjusting herself, but she's also behaving inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
If it was if it has a single instance like that,
the guy wouldn't be writing to ask for advice. It's
it's got to be a compounding of different things.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
How is she how is she acting inappropriate? He described
in great that I could see her underwear every day.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
No, not just clothing related.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, she's not, he says, she's not coming over and
sitting on my lap.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yes, but he's saying what she's doing is making him uncomfortable,
and she needs to be because it shouldn't be allowed
in the office, needs to be taking care of.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
So what it be?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Okay if I could see her granny panty?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
No, my god, you keep going back to the undergarment.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's what it is in her thong. She's like, eh,
dongy No.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It's also just the way she's interacting with him now,
she's not. He said it was flirty.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
To him because he could see her underwear.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
It wasn't just the one time.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But he could see it all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So what But he talked about she's maybe caught up
in a crush, like this guy could be a narcissist. Yeah,
you reading the situation.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
By the way, you could call her in and go, hey,
do you have a do you have a crush on?
Not the thong police, and she'd be like, that's skeevy
old man. Nore like, well, you're showing him, you're showing
him your underwear that I'm not showing him my underwear,
My underwear is showing.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Have you ever and I know, I know you've seen
people the way I.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Can tell you that I've seen people's underwear and and
and and and I'll tell you what if you're if
your if your tails hanging out over your pants, I'm
looking at it every day.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But have you ever seen what he described?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
What's that of somebody pulling up their underwear in the
in the office?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
No, that seems weird to go into your pants at
your desk.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Okay, but you make it sound you agree.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
No, Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It would be like if I were like, oh, you
know what, and I don't look. I want you to look. No,
if I was just like no, but I just pulled
up my waistband on my on my boxers. I'm not shot.
I'm not digging in there to pull them up into
the bathroom stalls. Oh my god, to scratch my side.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
In his pants.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And I'm not going into the bathroom doing just my
underwear my underwear band.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
But people do that.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
No, you yes, you definitely do.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
If you saw somebody who's somebody in sales, who's somebody
in sales?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Colin the no, not Colin.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I don't like using him. He gets all offended because
of his beanie baby. Okay, so if Caruso every day
was wearing you know sometimes if you wear a belt,
the belt who pulls down a little bit here? So
every day if this is all you could see, right,
just a little bit of underwear.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
For gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
No, you could just see waistband on Caruso. Would you
be like, oh my god, he's flirting with me.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
That's a completely different thing.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
This needs to stop, This needs to stop. No, I
could walk around I'm being honest, I could walk around
with just my underwear pulled up a little bit. Can
you see that?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Can you see that?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Are you not doing anything wrong?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I am not doing anything wrong. I'm going about my day,
my shoes untied. I could do that and the whole Diane,
you're gonna be over there going like, oh, well, here
you go. He's got a crush on me. He's showing
me his underwear.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Different. How How is it just because because you're not
you're not aware jacking jacking him up with your thumbs
and then turning around coyly and looking over your shoulder.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Turned around and noticed him and was nervously smiled. She
didn't go want some.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
But like I said, this this is a chronic thing.
Because why is he writing into it an advice column
about it?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Because maybe she wears low riders and the underpants sticks
up higher.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Okay, you're in the workforce, you know better.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Listen there Sometimes is this gonna make me sound creep?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
There have been No, there have been times that there
have been women at this office.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
No, no, he didn't call him Brad.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
No, No, there are times that there have been women
at this office who have warned skirts. And I've seen
I've seen not from the back. I've seen squirrel cover
from the front. I swear to God.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I swear to God, like basic instinct style.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
They didn't cross their legs in front of me, hoping
I would let them out of some legal situation.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I was in my cell phone underneath their desk.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No, but sometimes if you're having if you're having a meeting, and.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
How long is this conference room table?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
No? No, no, but.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Can I say very quickly only because I have I
have a meeting every Tuesday with Kristin Haley and in Casey.
I've not seen any of their underwears. Okay, I've not
seen I bet one of them doesn't even wear it.
The kristin. No, I haven't seen any of their underweares.
But in that meeting, how do we sit. We're not
(11:43):
all sitting at a table, We're essentially all sitting in
our chairs in a circle, looking at each other. I
have been in plenty of meetings like that, and somebody
will move and I see up their skirts.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Now there used to be a fourth person in those
meetings before she moved away.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Oh Jamie, No, No, I never saw Jamie's underwear.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
This so remember.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I saw the old laser laser. No. But I don't
want I don't want any of them to think it's them.
But I've seen people here is underwear don't go to
I don't go to.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But that's what he doesn't want, right because.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
He doesn't want to make a big deal out of it.
But he's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Why because he can see her underwear straps grow up.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
There's obviously more than one thing going on, But it
also seems like he doesn't want her to find herself
at the.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Wrong end of discipline.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, well, I guess discipline there are it's not a
good end of discipline, But he wants to almost like
help her along. She's he complimented her multiple times.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, he's like, she's she's green, she's green, and she
needs to learn how to adult.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
That that is adulting. Adults wear thongs.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
You don't show them at the workplace.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh my god, it's unintentional. Line one, Hi, Elliet in
the morning?
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Hey this?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Hey this?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
This guy's an old creep. He It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
He's just like thinking that she's flirting with her.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
She's not.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It's so stupid. She's just I've had.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Thongs that are a little bit bigger and when you
sit down, they kind of go down and you kind
of reach in and you pull them up a little bit,
otherwise they're going to get baggy. Yes, And it's it's ridiculous.
It's he's flattering himself. It's ridiculous to think that she's flirting.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Right. And by the way, so what is the real answer,
What is the real answer.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
The real answer is he needs to stop like pretending
that she's interested in him.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And just you want to know what the you want
to know what the advice column said, This girl's doing
nothing wrong. Stop looking. Stop looking if.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
She's adjusting her bra strap or something.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
That Half the times I know Dia comes in in
the morning, she's like, uh, it was a rough car
ride in let me adjust here?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And does she move in the bra?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I got three fourths of a titty out like it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
No, But the.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
The thank you. No, the advice person says, why don't
you stop looking? But do they address the visible underwear, dear,
not the thong police. I have a very simple way
for you not to be the thong police. Don't look.
Keep your eyes up. If you are constantly seeing a thong,
(14:59):
that just sort of tells me that you're constantly looking
at your colleagues waste and or butt. Is a visible
thong appropriate in the office, No, of course not. But
having a conversation about your much younger colleagues underwear in
the office is going to make you seem like a creep.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Which he was worried about.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yes, so nobody's doing anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, no, they definitely did. Yes, the underwear.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's not intentional. I'm not intentionally showing my waistband, but
said it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
That's a problem.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
If it happens dozens of times, you can't say, Oh,
it's not intentional.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It's not like right now as I sit here, I
don't know if anybody can see my underwear, so I
don't know if it's intentional or not.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But then then you get a smaller thong. Yeah, get
rid of the thong.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
He get it?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Geester Li Hi, Elliot in the morning?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Is this me? Yes? Hi?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yes hi.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
My name is Anthony. I'm very glad you brought up
this subject, Elliott, because I got a juicy one for you.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
It's way worse than what you're hearing right now. I
definitely agree disagree with the woman. They are just called
that the guy is flattering himself. A lot of these
younger women are specifically pretty women do it on purpose
to tease you. Trust me when I tell you that,
how possible?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Well tell me why tell me why I am trusting you?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Oh I will, Oh, I will. I've seen it. I've
seen it over the time, so I work in the
data set. Is that Amazon? This this story I'm going
to tell you is just one part. I'm going to
tell you the real bad story, this one with spandex
all the time to work spandex, which really is not allowed.
It's an Amazon employee twenty years old. You can see everything.
(16:57):
Don't tell me she's not doing it on purpose.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Please, what do you What are you see? You're not
seeing anything.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You can see everything through the span that you can
see the donkstrap going down, and she knows it and
she enjoys it. That's just one story. And now I'm
going to tell you the one that's affecting me.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I got a mona.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I have a female that's working with me who's twenty
nine years old. Right, okay, I'm sixty. I'm sixty. We're
very close in the office. From the moment she arrived there.
Maybe on the third day. I do, I'm security, I
do vehicle Potroc's in the car, me telling me, oh,
I'm a pretty woman. I know how to treat them men,
I can't seem to keep them. It got worse from there.
(17:42):
She used to talk. She talks hard, hardcore sexual. She
has said things like this, I had sex the other night.
The sex was so damn good. This guy's peeks, very
very thin, skinny. She started talking about how she can't
work as him. She's saying it in front of me,
(18:02):
where I can't help but put my face right there
in the lap. Okay, she she has claimed she loves
I mean, I'm talking right two on, two feet away
from her.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
She is sir, sir, sir.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
And then when you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Hold on, let me catch up, let me catch up,
let me catch up.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And when you asked her, she says, now, so you
go figure it out. She invites you in, and then
you start saying, well, I look, it looks like I
can get in here. She'll say no to you all
the time. She is extremely flirtationism.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
He has the crazy Wait so did you ask her out?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Well? Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey I did not ask her out,
ask her for sock straight up?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
You just straight out as her fors Okay, wait a minute, Elliott,
what is she talking about?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
I well, I well, part of it I had to dump,
but I got you say to Diane what you said
to her? Ask Diane out the way, ask Diane for
sex the way you asked her for sex.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Oh no, no, no, she's talking about sex.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No, I know that's Diane.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Man, she's talked about it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
To stop. You gotta stop, you gotta stop, hold on,
hold on, and are you guys hiring.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Getting story time today?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I love that guy, that's my favorite guy, but you had.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
To let him go. Good luck with the quilting
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