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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is one of the phrases that people Sorry, bacon bacon
bacon in the tube is one of the phrases that
people hate hearing the most.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I told you so.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
It's not only do people hate hearing it. There are
some people who hate to say that.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, I hate to say I told you so. That's
almost a more common phrase than I told you so.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
But isn't that part of the the isn't that isn't
that part of the Oh I hate to say I
told you so?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Is the way of saying I told you so.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I just like to say I told you so. I
just came up the other day on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
How did that come up?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
There was just it was an off, kind of the
cuff comment, but it was just basically like, what I
hate to say, I told you so. I think Diane
might have said it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It was you said it. Who did say I told
you so? To?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
No, she was taking the perspective of someone else. Oh,
I got she was saying that you would hate in
that situation to say I told you so. It's so common.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, right, But isn't it? But that triggers a lot
of people.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yeah, I'm trying to think if it should, like right now,
it's not bothering anybody, is it?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Because you were already amped up the coughing. No, the
coughing's bothering me like crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Although you know what, what time is it? Almost nine?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I can take my cough, uh, suppress it although it
hasn't worked for the last six hours.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Why would it work?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Maybe it was maybe it was wearing off. That's why
you need to take it again.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, I'll take it again. Can you take it with bacon?
I think so, Diane?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
After this week, you please don't ever reach for the
cough button again.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
No, Diane has had coughs for for months.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
No, it's bad, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Attempt to mute it.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well what do you no?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Here's the problem. I don't have one. Yes, you do, off,
but that's the aim the Yeah, I know, but.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Comas now I'm back. I don't even know when it's
on or off. Here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Can I tell you?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And then, Krista, will you do me a favor while
I explained something to them? Will you find me somebody
that really gets triggered by that, like really gets triggered
by hearing I told you so? Please?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I'll find somebody who gets triggered by saying it, or
maybe it's somebody who husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever, they
get triggered.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Just whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Give me somebody that's really annoyed by it, like really annoyed.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know, the people with no forethought.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
The see but well hold.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Eight sixty six to Elliott eight six six two three
five five four six.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I just say, no, you may not. Now I'm gonna
say it.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
If the tables were turned right and I was in
your position, yes, you would be losing your s right now.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Not true, screaming true, yes.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Because I generally tell Diane, well again, Christian, will you
get that, and then I'll deal with this little issue
that's going on buses eight.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
No, No, I never said that eight six.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Six to Elliott eight six six two three five five
four six eight.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Careful with your acl Diane.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No, here's here's the problem. Well, first, yes, I was sick.
I think about how sick I must be if we
had to end the show early last week, right, and
I'm still fighting my way through it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Right, you would point that out to Diane that it's
been over a week.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And why aren't you taking care of it. But I
don't do that in a way. Don't you rest?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I don't do that in a way. I do go
home and rest.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You were out last night of the game.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What about yesterday?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
No, You'll be like, why didn't you fix it over
the weekend? Why is it still here?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I tried, But I don't do that to you. I
don't do that to you over the course of a week.
I understand that these things take time to work through
the system. You it's when it's like week three, week
four and you're still that's number one.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Number two. I'm in a what what what?
Speaker 6 (04:12):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Psychologists and therapists would call a no win situation because
if I go listen, I don't want to come in
here coughing like I got tampons in my nose, My
chair is squeaking.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I don't want any of that. But if I if
I were.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
To say, you know what, let me let me, let me,
let me take a day or two and get over this,
I'd never hear the end of it. I would never
people people yell at me. And then if I come
in here, I'm sorry. If I come in here and
I sound like this and I'm coughing, people yell at me,
where's the wind?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No one's happy? No, No, I can't. That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I can't make everyone happy as much as I try.
What did I tell you yesterday? All you need in
life is love and pm A and I'm trying to
get through it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Sounds like I would make Diane happy if you, at
some point did actually take care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
No, because Diane, Diane doesn't care how I am the
only thing that Diane cares about.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Now I'm over here, going boy, I'm glad he's got
that cough.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yes, I'll tell you why, because you in your head
are like, yeah's it, fix it, fix it, fix it,
sreamed Karma.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
No, you love this because the next time that you go,
the next time that you go a month and.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I finally go, Diane, it's been a month. Can we
fix it? You're gonna go?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You did it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I know you were talking about the old euphemism, euphemism
of I told you so, yes, But there's also the
old euphemism of when you point at somebody, somebody, there
are three fingers pointing back at you.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
So looking look look at the mirror, mirror right hen soo.
Jay Simpson but that's all. Dan doesn't care about my
well being. That's not true. Why don't you say that? No,
you do, but you care more than you'll be able
to say. I told look at me, don't yell at me,
look at you. I've tabled my comments many a.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Time of Diane brings up that idiom again, I told
you so. I think because you said maybe like a
husband or wife or people who are dating. I think
it's the worst in this setting.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What we're a work setting? Work specifically this setting, work setting. Oh,
I didn't even think of it in a work setting.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's one thing for there to be drama at home,
but there can be bosses and colleagues who are notorious
for this, and that can make it such a toxic workplace.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh you know what, Oh, so like they reprimand or
they do like, hey, I wouldn't do the report that way.
Oh the sale didn't go through? Told you so?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Oh, I can see that.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I can see that negative reinforce.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Am I bad at work about that? Not with you guys,
but just in general, I can see.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Are there people lining up behind to speak?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't say I told you so to Diane? What
am I said? I told you so to you. No,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I mean, I can't think of any specific Oh, you're bowing,
thank you. I can't think of any specific.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Hold on.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You alluded. You alluded to having been frustrated here and
there over the last month or so with Mike Caruso. Yes,
at any point did you say to him or or
does that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Be the exact finish the question, because the answer is yes, you.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Don't have to do it so directly and it doesn't
be so harsh. I told you so. But did you
give him the sense that you had in the past
said something about what went down?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Specifically with those four words, I told you you saw Okay. Yes,
now that may have annoyed Carusoe, but he never said
anything to me. If it did, I'm sorry I was
I was just doing it to tell you I saw
this coming. Why didn't you listen to me?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Maybe he tried to, but you had your headphones on
and wouldn't listen to.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Him at any point that too. Oh, but I don't
have to even ask. I was wondering if any point
over it the last month or two, specifically with him,
if Elliot ever did that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That poor soul standing in the doorway going Elliott. Elliott, Elliott.
I'm like he's got his headphones on.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
He doesn't see you at all in the reflections of
his laptop, desktop or massive framed Soul Asylum poster. He
has no idea you're here.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I can't say I'm facing the other way.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Boo line five, Hi Elliot in the morning. Work is
But all that being said, work is a good one
that may you may be right, that may actually be
better than a lover. Yo.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Elliott Tyler nailed it, bro I work in tech sales.
I had a spiff so like a bonus on a deal, right,
I was chasing it down. It was worth ten thousand
extra dollars. And when it didn't happen because of contract
terms that should have worked out, my boss said, I
told you so, and I could have smashed him through
a wall. I'll just get that back.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
I'll just find a nut shirt en g somewhere.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Now, let me ask you this, what would you have preferred,
he said, instead of I told you so, Like, what
is the what is the fill in there?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
I guess just empathize that it sucks, and then you know,
I don't argue on my behalf that I should have
gotten it, because I should have.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, but you can't. Don't get mad at me. I
can't argue that you should have gotten it because you didn't.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Now I'm mad at.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You because that is so much money. What were they referencing?
What was the warning they gave you that they later said, Oh,
I made you aware of this.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
So I work in tech sales, right, So it was
The idea was multi year contracts would pay out multiple dollars.
So I cover government. So it's difficult for government agencies
to pay upfront for multiple year contracts. So the term
the customer wanted to do multiple year, but they needed
the ability to pay year over year, which we can do.
(10:32):
But I wouldn't say they wouldn't give me permission to
use the term that would allow that to happen. So
I got the customer to agree tiler. My company does
allow it on other deals, didn't allow it online, and
it cost me ten gs. I just told you so, yeah,
not a great one. Not a great one, that's.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
A great but that's a great example. That's a great example.
Thank you sir. Sorry you lost ten gs. Hey, you
want a shirt you want to share?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Let me get one.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, hold on.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
An extreme example associated with a monetary value.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
No, but think of how much more triggered you would
be by.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Ten grand.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm angry at that boss. That's rough, But you have
a suggestion on how that boss should in the future
go about it.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Maybe I may I may have a couple for you.
I may have a couple for you.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well, you are an EmPATH.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Hi Elliott the morning, Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 7 (11:31):
See my name is justin listening to you guys for
a long time only called it got in through a
couple of times. But now with me, it's more of
me having to say it that triggers me than me
hearing it, because if I hear it, that means I
was actually wrong about something, which would be a nice
(11:52):
change of pace for once. Yeah, and like, I have
to say it more than I do the F word,
and it's it, for lack of better term, extremely aggravating.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So wait, so you don't like having to say it
because it highlights how ineffective the people are and listen to.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Them basically shows that nobody's effing listening and yet again
being never heeded my warning.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Now, did you do you think do you think that
you might feel better if you if you had a
different phrase to use, maybe a different shoe to wear
at that point.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
I've tried that, And what option?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
What other option did you go with instead of its
going I told you?
Speaker 7 (12:41):
So?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What else have you tried saying that would make you
more like me where you're more empathetic?
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Uh? Well, I've tried a few different ones, such as
no one heeded my warning or shows that no one's
listening to me.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, I don't know that. That's really softening a lot
of blows.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Oh it's not meant to Oh that's true.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You didn't say that's true. Did you go with a
less aggressive phrase you just said? Did you try another one?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Right?
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Well, if someone listened to me, we want to be
sitting here talking about it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
That is true, man, that's true.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Carusoe. All right, very good, very good, Thank you sir,
Thank you. So Diane, Yes, I told you to do
a B and C. You didn't. It did not go well, right,
And now you're left with me, and you know you
(13:48):
look at me and you're like, oh god, he knows
that I didn't do it his way.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'm never going to hear the end of this here comes.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So you're egg shell in anyway, right, or whatever you
want to call it, turtling, nosing whatever, Right? Would it
feel better if I looked at you and said, hmmm,
I remember us discussing this possibility, let's figure out what
we can learn from it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That sounds so insincere coming from you.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Say it with a different Yeah, I remember us discussing.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Now you're angry, right, okay, before you were almost mocking her.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I remember us discussing this possibility, let's figure out let's
figure out what we can.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Learn from it. No, really, no, it's I'm saying it.
You've laid a groundwork already, so you don't like that options.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
What if you said it as a question, like, oh,
can we discuss this possibility? What can we do?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Moving?
Speaker 6 (14:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
No, because it says here I'm supposed to say it
as a statement. I do have a question, though, Huh,
what prompted you to go into What prompted you to
go in a different direction? Oh boy, Oh I was
looking for the easy way out.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm taking the one before that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm taking.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I told you so over that what prompted you to
go in a different direction? They say that that's a
that's a that's a preferred one, I know, but.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I'm preferring the discussing this possibility prompted you. That's that's aggressive.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I have another question. Do you even want my help
in situations like this?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
What you're making? Everyone's getting worse and worse and worse.
It's like you're like bowing up.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
It says, right here, do you want my help in
situations like this?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
My god?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And they're arguing all of these are better, better than
I told you so. I told you so, they said,
triggers everybody, but not when I go.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Do you even want my help?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, it's your delivery.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah that you're emphasized. Do you want me to wait?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Is that Caruso? Is that Caruso?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
It looks like a bigger of people.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I need you get in here, Hey Caruso.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Hello, Hi, Hi, Hi, I'm sorry Hi Alison, No, I
need you up here?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Who's Allison? Alison works with just iced Tea? Right? Oh?
Is this a client?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
It is? I'm on a meeting right now.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Hey remember when do you remember when we worked on
a promotion together? Alison? If you want a Dunket, Donuts
or anything that will busy you from paying attention to
what's happening here.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Do you remember do you remember when we were working
on the bet MGM thing and there was a couple
of hiccups exactly, There were a couple of hiccups along
the way, and occasionally I would say, I told you so.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
This is where I'm supposed to say, yes, right, did
that bother you?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
No?
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Be honest, My subconscious is telling me it did not
bother me because in uh.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
No, no, but hearing that it bothered you, would it
have been better? Would it have been better if I
would have said, I remember us discussing this possibility. Let's
figure out what we can learn from it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Well, that's not on your brand.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Okay, Mike, what prompted you to go in a different direction?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
It was your direction?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
How about that? No, we ended up here because it
wasn't my direction. How about this one? Do you even
want my help in situations like this?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
That seems a little crass.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
See I told you that, I told you so. The
first two seem a little more exploratory. That third sounds
like a little uh of a dig.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Is there a way that I can talk to you
in the future that would make my suggestions easier to hear.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Well, now if you remember our conversation, I can listen
to you.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Are you a potentially like promotionally active client, we'll see
ask for a new wrap? No, no, no, Caruso's great.
Caruso is great. I'll fix it when it's all said
and done. Let's let's go back to our conversation, right.
(18:26):
I came back to you and said, are we still
going to be able to work together in the future?
And we were very open about that conversation. I think
if you have opened up this conversation, oh my god,
by the way, that is his way of going.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You told me so.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
It sounds like you figured out what you could learn
from it, which was one of your ideas well.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I will never know whether or not Caruso learned from it,
because I will never do anything with him again.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Sorry, Alison, I don't even know what I want.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I'm kidding. I'm kidding, of course happened. Please another Donuts?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
It's the mine.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
What did I walk into?
Speaker 8 (19:04):
Are these suggestions for how to communicate better with employees
and employer relations?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Would have just said that people are very, very triggered
by the term in all situations of I told you so.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
So.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
It was whether it's romantic alson.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't know what your situation is, but whether it's
romantic or work or whatever, that saying to somebody I
told you so is really triggering to people in a really,
really aggressive way. So they were just trying to say,
what are what are these other options that make the
same point. But I didn't even get to the last
one they suggested, which I guess my crystal ball was
(19:39):
working when we originally discussed this, Like that to.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Me sounds that to me sounds like I'm talking to
a three year old that one won't work.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
That sounds I can't imagine talking to missus Crusoe and saying, oh,
my crystal.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Ball, I guess my crystal ball was working.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
No, Like that isn't good. That isn't good. All right,
very good? Have you figured out your schedule yet?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Good?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Good?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Well, welcome aboard. What's the name of the company?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Just iced Tea?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Just you know, I love iced tea. I love iced tea,
and I want to think with it. I just iced tea.
Well literally what it is?
Speaker 9 (20:12):
It's real brewed fresh from the garden to the bottle.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Is it really oh?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Good for you, good for you, all right, very good,
All right, Caruso, you can leave, Allison if you want
a third donut now please, by all means, we'll have
a meeting later about all.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
This isn't isn't your bunny tied to this?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Who is is there?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Is there a famous chef tie to this brand?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
There is Spike mend Okay, hey, you guys know, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
God, Spike's awesome. Caruso, get out. I'll take care of
it from here. Wait, so mental, how do you know?
How do you know Spike?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
So?
Speaker 9 (20:45):
I worked with the company, and it was founded by
Seth Goldman, who was the co founder of Honesty right
the Jewish Yes, and his co founder, Chef Spike Medalsin
so basically took the best of what Honesty had been
working in real brude fresh, authentic, all real ingredients, and
then Chef Spike just kicked it up right.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
No, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Well till Spike we said high also don't want to
bring food like he hasn't been in.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Here in a little bit, in a long time.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yea and I both Montreal boys.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Very good, thank you? All right, Mike. You're welcome. You're welcome.
You're welcome.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
I don't have to say anything.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
No, you really don't. You shouldn't say anything. What do
you want me to write up the contract too?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
No, you should go hand Alison off to Aaron and
just let it not get messed up, all right, And
for any upcoming promotions you do with Mike, I'll apologize
on his behalf now, okay, I'll please do, please do.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I told your son.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I thought bringing up Spike would have put a nice
little bow on it.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
It did.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
No, No, you went right back at Carusoe. I was like,
I'd love for this to end on a bad note.
Maybe Elliott will jump been after the good.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Notes because she'll go tell Spike and she'll feel good.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, no, absolutely good after.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
It, I was worried it might turn out that way.
I'm sorry that it did.
Is one of the phrases that people Sorry, bacon bacon
bacon in the tube is one of the phrases that
people hate hearing the most.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I told you so.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
It's not only do people hate hearing it. There are
some people who hate to say that.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, I hate to say I told you so. That's
almost a more common phrase than I told you so.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
But isn't that part of the the isn't that isn't
that part of the Oh I hate to say I
told you so?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Is the way of saying I told you so.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I just like to say I told you so. I
just came up the other day on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
How did that come up?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
There was just it was an off, kind of the
cuff comment, but it was just basically like, what I
hate to say, I told you so. I think Diane
might have said it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It was you said it. Who did say I told
you so? To?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
No, she was taking the perspective of someone else. Oh,
I got she was saying that you would hate in
that situation to say I told you so. It's so common.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, right, But isn't it? But that triggers a lot
of people.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yeah, I'm trying to think if it should, like right now,
it's not bothering anybody, is it?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Because you were already amped up the coughing. No, the
coughing's bothering me like crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Although you know what, what time is it? Almost nine?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I can take my cough, uh, suppress it although it
hasn't worked for the last six hours.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Why would it work?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Maybe it was maybe it was wearing off. That's why
you need to take it again.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, I'll take it again. Can you take it with bacon?
I think so, Diane?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
After this week, you please don't ever reach for the
cough button again.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
No, Diane has had coughs for for months.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
No, it's bad, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Attempt to mute it.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well what do you no?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Here's the problem. I don't have one. Yes, you do, off,
but that's the aim the Yeah, I know, but.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Comas now I'm back. I don't even know when it's
on or off. Here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Can I tell you?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And then, Krista, will you do me a favor while
I explained something to them? Will you find me somebody
that really gets triggered by that, like really gets triggered
by hearing I told you so? Please?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I'll find somebody who gets triggered by saying it, or
maybe it's somebody who husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever, they
get triggered.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Just whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Give me somebody that's really annoyed by it, like really annoyed.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know, the people with no forethought.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
The see but well hold.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Eight sixty six to Elliott eight six six two three
five five four six.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I just say, no, you may not. Now I'm gonna
say it.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
If the tables were turned right and I was in
your position, yes, you would be losing your s right now.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Not true, screaming true, yes.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Because I generally tell Diane, well again, Christian, will you
get that, and then I'll deal with this little issue
that's going on buses eight.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
No, No, I never said that eight six.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Six to Elliott eight six six two three five five
four six eight.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Careful with your acl Diane.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No, here's here's the problem. Well, first, yes, I was sick.
I think about how sick I must be if we
had to end the show early last week, right, and
I'm still fighting my way through it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Right, you would point that out to Diane that it's
been over a week.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And why aren't you taking care of it. But I
don't do that in a way. Don't you rest?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I don't do that in a way. I do go
home and rest.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You were out last night of the game.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What about yesterday?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
No, You'll be like, why didn't you fix it over
the weekend? Why is it still here?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I tried, But I don't do that to you. I
don't do that to you over the course of a week.
I understand that these things take time to work through
the system. You it's when it's like week three, week
four and you're still that's number one.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Number two. I'm in a what what what?
Speaker 6 (04:12):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Psychologists and therapists would call a no win situation because
if I go listen, I don't want to come in
here coughing like I got tampons in my nose, My
chair is squeaking.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I don't want any of that. But if I if
I were.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
To say, you know what, let me let me, let me,
let me take a day or two and get over this,
I'd never hear the end of it. I would never
people people yell at me. And then if I come
in here, I'm sorry. If I come in here and
I sound like this and I'm coughing, people yell at me,
where's the wind?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No one's happy? No, No, I can't. That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I can't make everyone happy as much as I try.
What did I tell you yesterday? All you need in
life is love and pm A and I'm trying to
get through it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Sounds like I would make Diane happy if you, at
some point did actually take care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
No, because Diane, Diane doesn't care how I am the
only thing that Diane cares about.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Now I'm over here, going boy, I'm glad he's got
that cough.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yes, I'll tell you why, because you in your head
are like, yeah's it, fix it, fix it, fix it,
sreamed Karma.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
No, you love this because the next time that you go,
the next time that you go a month and.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I finally go, Diane, it's been a month. Can we
fix it? You're gonna go?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You did it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I know you were talking about the old euphemism, euphemism
of I told you so, yes, But there's also the
old euphemism of when you point at somebody, somebody, there
are three fingers pointing back at you.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
So looking look look at the mirror, mirror right hen soo.
Jay Simpson but that's all. Dan doesn't care about my
well being. That's not true. Why don't you say that? No,
you do, but you care more than you'll be able
to say. I told look at me, don't yell at me,
look at you. I've tabled my comments many a.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Time of Diane brings up that idiom again, I told
you so. I think because you said maybe like a
husband or wife or people who are dating. I think
it's the worst in this setting.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What we're a work setting? Work specifically this setting, work setting. Oh,
I didn't even think of it in a work setting.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's one thing for there to be drama at home,
but there can be bosses and colleagues who are notorious
for this, and that can make it such a toxic workplace.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh you know what, Oh, so like they reprimand or
they do like, hey, I wouldn't do the report that way.
Oh the sale didn't go through? Told you so?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Oh, I can see that.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I can see that negative reinforce.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Am I bad at work about that? Not with you guys,
but just in general, I can see.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Are there people lining up behind to speak?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't say I told you so to Diane? What
am I said? I told you so to you. No,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I mean, I can't think of any specific Oh, you're bowing,
thank you. I can't think of any specific.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Hold on.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You alluded. You alluded to having been frustrated here and
there over the last month or so with Mike Caruso. Yes,
at any point did you say to him or or
does that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Be the exact finish the question, because the answer is yes, you.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Don't have to do it so directly and it doesn't
be so harsh. I told you so. But did you
give him the sense that you had in the past
said something about what went down?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Specifically with those four words, I told you you saw Okay. Yes,
now that may have annoyed Carusoe, but he never said
anything to me. If it did, I'm sorry I was
I was just doing it to tell you I saw
this coming. Why didn't you listen to me?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Maybe he tried to, but you had your headphones on
and wouldn't listen to.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Him at any point that too. Oh, but I don't
have to even ask. I was wondering if any point
over it the last month or two, specifically with him,
if Elliot ever did that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That poor soul standing in the doorway going Elliott. Elliott, Elliott.
I'm like he's got his headphones on.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
He doesn't see you at all in the reflections of
his laptop, desktop or massive framed Soul Asylum poster. He
has no idea you're here.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I can't say I'm facing the other way.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Boo line five, Hi Elliot in the morning. Work is
But all that being said, work is a good one
that may you may be right, that may actually be
better than a lover. Yo.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Elliott Tyler nailed it, bro I work in tech sales.
I had a spiff so like a bonus on a deal, right,
I was chasing it down. It was worth ten thousand
extra dollars. And when it didn't happen because of contract
terms that should have worked out, my boss said, I
told you so, and I could have smashed him through
a wall. I'll just get that back.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
I'll just find a nut shirt en g somewhere.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Now, let me ask you this, what would you have preferred,
he said, instead of I told you so, Like, what
is the what is the fill in there?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
I guess just empathize that it sucks, and then you know,
I don't argue on my behalf that I should have
gotten it, because I should have.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, but you can't. Don't get mad at me. I
can't argue that you should have gotten it because you didn't.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Now I'm mad at.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You because that is so much money. What were they referencing?
What was the warning they gave you that they later said, Oh,
I made you aware of this.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
So I work in tech sales, right, So it was
The idea was multi year contracts would pay out multiple dollars.
So I cover government. So it's difficult for government agencies
to pay upfront for multiple year contracts. So the term
the customer wanted to do multiple year, but they needed
the ability to pay year over year, which we can do.
(10:32):
But I wouldn't say they wouldn't give me permission to
use the term that would allow that to happen. So
I got the customer to agree tiler. My company does
allow it on other deals, didn't allow it online, and
it cost me ten gs. I just told you so, yeah,
not a great one. Not a great one, that's.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
A great but that's a great example. That's a great example.
Thank you sir. Sorry you lost ten gs. Hey, you
want a shirt you want to share?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Let me get one.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, hold on.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
An extreme example associated with a monetary value.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
No, but think of how much more triggered you would
be by.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Ten grand.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm angry at that boss. That's rough, But you have
a suggestion on how that boss should in the future
go about it.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Maybe I may I may have a couple for you.
I may have a couple for you.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well, you are an EmPATH.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Hi Elliott the morning, Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 7 (11:31):
See my name is justin listening to you guys for
a long time only called it got in through a
couple of times. But now with me, it's more of
me having to say it that triggers me than me
hearing it, because if I hear it, that means I
was actually wrong about something, which would be a nice
(11:52):
change of pace for once. Yeah, and like, I have
to say it more than I do the F word,
and it's it, for lack of better term, extremely aggravating.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So wait, so you don't like having to say it
because it highlights how ineffective the people are and listen to.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Them basically shows that nobody's effing listening and yet again
being never heeded my warning.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Now, did you do you think do you think that
you might feel better if you if you had a
different phrase to use, maybe a different shoe to wear
at that point.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
I've tried that, And what option?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
What other option did you go with instead of its
going I told you?
Speaker 7 (12:41):
So?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What else have you tried saying that would make you
more like me where you're more empathetic?
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Uh? Well, I've tried a few different ones, such as
no one heeded my warning or shows that no one's
listening to me.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, I don't know that. That's really softening a lot
of blows.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Oh it's not meant to Oh that's true.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You didn't say that's true. Did you go with a
less aggressive phrase you just said? Did you try another one?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Right?
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Well, if someone listened to me, we want to be
sitting here talking about it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
That is true, man, that's true.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Carusoe. All right, very good, very good, Thank you sir,
Thank you. So Diane, Yes, I told you to do
a B and C. You didn't. It did not go well, right,
And now you're left with me, and you know you
(13:48):
look at me and you're like, oh god, he knows
that I didn't do it his way.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'm never going to hear the end of this here comes.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So you're egg shell in anyway, right, or whatever you
want to call it, turtling, nosing whatever, Right? Would it
feel better if I looked at you and said, hmmm,
I remember us discussing this possibility, let's figure out what
we can learn from it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That sounds so insincere coming from you.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Say it with a different Yeah, I remember us discussing.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Now you're angry, right, okay, before you were almost mocking her.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I remember us discussing this possibility, let's figure out let's
figure out what we can.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Learn from it. No, really, no, it's I'm saying it.
You've laid a groundwork already, so you don't like that options.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
What if you said it as a question, like, oh,
can we discuss this possibility? What can we do?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Moving?
Speaker 6 (14:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
No, because it says here I'm supposed to say it
as a statement. I do have a question, though, Huh,
what prompted you to go into What prompted you to
go in a different direction? Oh boy, Oh I was
looking for the easy way out.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm taking the one before that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm taking.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I told you so over that what prompted you to
go in a different direction? They say that that's a
that's a that's a preferred one, I know, but.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I'm preferring the discussing this possibility prompted you. That's that's aggressive.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I have another question. Do you even want my help
in situations like this?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
What you're making? Everyone's getting worse and worse and worse.
It's like you're like bowing up.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
It says, right here, do you want my help in
situations like this?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
My god?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And they're arguing all of these are better, better than
I told you so. I told you so, they said,
triggers everybody, but not when I go.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Do you even want my help?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, it's your delivery.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah that you're emphasized. Do you want me to wait?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Is that Caruso? Is that Caruso?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
It looks like a bigger of people.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I need you get in here, Hey Caruso.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Hello, Hi, Hi, Hi, I'm sorry Hi Alison, No, I
need you up here?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Who's Allison? Alison works with just iced Tea? Right? Oh?
Is this a client?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
It is? I'm on a meeting right now.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Hey remember when do you remember when we worked on
a promotion together? Alison? If you want a Dunket, Donuts
or anything that will busy you from paying attention to
what's happening here.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Do you remember do you remember when we were working
on the bet MGM thing and there was a couple
of hiccups exactly, There were a couple of hiccups along
the way, and occasionally I would say, I told you so.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
This is where I'm supposed to say, yes, right, did
that bother you?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
No?
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Be honest, My subconscious is telling me it did not
bother me because in uh.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
No, no, but hearing that it bothered you, would it
have been better? Would it have been better if I
would have said, I remember us discussing this possibility. Let's
figure out what we can learn from it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Well, that's not on your brand.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Okay, Mike, what prompted you to go in a different direction?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
It was your direction?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
How about that? No, we ended up here because it
wasn't my direction. How about this one? Do you even
want my help in situations like this?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
That seems a little crass.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
See I told you that, I told you so. The
first two seem a little more exploratory. That third sounds
like a little uh of a dig.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Is there a way that I can talk to you
in the future that would make my suggestions easier to hear.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Well, now if you remember our conversation, I can listen
to you.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Are you a potentially like promotionally active client, we'll see
ask for a new wrap? No, no, no, Caruso's great.
Caruso is great. I'll fix it when it's all said
and done. Let's let's go back to our conversation, right.
(18:26):
I came back to you and said, are we still
going to be able to work together in the future?
And we were very open about that conversation. I think
if you have opened up this conversation, oh my god,
by the way, that is his way of going.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You told me so.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
It sounds like you figured out what you could learn
from it, which was one of your ideas well.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I will never know whether or not Caruso learned from it,
because I will never do anything with him again.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Sorry, Alison, I don't even know what I want.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I'm kidding. I'm kidding, of course happened. Please another Donuts?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
It's the mine.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
What did I walk into?
Speaker 8 (19:04):
Are these suggestions for how to communicate better with employees
and employer relations?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Would have just said that people are very, very triggered
by the term in all situations of I told you so.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
So.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
It was whether it's romantic alson.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't know what your situation is, but whether it's
romantic or work or whatever, that saying to somebody I
told you so is really triggering to people in a really,
really aggressive way. So they were just trying to say,
what are what are these other options that make the
same point. But I didn't even get to the last
one they suggested, which I guess my crystal ball was
(19:39):
working when we originally discussed this, Like that to.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Me sounds that to me sounds like I'm talking to
a three year old that one won't work.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
That sounds I can't imagine talking to missus Crusoe and saying, oh,
my crystal.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Ball, I guess my crystal ball was working.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
No, Like that isn't good. That isn't good. All right,
very good? Have you figured out your schedule yet?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Good?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Good?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Well, welcome aboard. What's the name of the company?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Just iced Tea?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Just you know, I love iced tea. I love iced tea,
and I want to think with it. I just iced tea.
Well literally what it is?
Speaker 9 (20:12):
It's real brewed fresh from the garden to the bottle.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Is it really oh?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Good for you, good for you, all right, very good,
All right, Caruso, you can leave, Allison if you want
a third donut now please, by all means, we'll have
a meeting later about all.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
This isn't isn't your bunny tied to this?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Who is is there?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Is there a famous chef tie to this brand?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
There is Spike mend Okay, hey, you guys know, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
God, Spike's awesome. Caruso, get out. I'll take care of
it from here. Wait, so mental, how do you know?
How do you know Spike?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
So?
Speaker 9 (20:45):
I worked with the company, and it was founded by
Seth Goldman, who was the co founder of Honesty right
the Jewish Yes, and his co founder, Chef Spike Medalsin
so basically took the best of what Honesty had been
working in real brude fresh, authentic, all real ingredients, and
then Chef Spike just kicked it up right.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
No, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Well till Spike we said high also don't want to
bring food like he hasn't been in.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Here in a little bit, in a long time.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yea and I both Montreal boys.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Very good, thank you? All right, Mike. You're welcome. You're welcome.
You're welcome.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
I don't have to say anything.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
No, you really don't. You shouldn't say anything. What do
you want me to write up the contract too?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
No, you should go hand Alison off to Aaron and
just let it not get messed up, all right, And
for any upcoming promotions you do with Mike, I'll apologize
on his behalf now, okay, I'll please do, please do.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I told your son.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I thought bringing up Spike would have put a nice
little bow on it.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
It did.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
No, No, you went right back at Carusoe. I was like,
I'd love for this to end on a bad note.
Maybe Elliott will jump been after the good.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Notes because she'll go tell Spike and she'll feel good.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, no, absolutely good after.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
It, I was worried it might turn out that way.
I'm sorry that it did.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!