EITM interviews Kevin Nealon

EITM interviews Kevin Nealon

Episode Transcript

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How are you, sir, Thankyou for coming in, Thanks for having
me. Man, I'm so excitedto be here. I grew up listening
to you guys. Where is home? The home? Home was Connecticut.
Home was Connecticut. Bridgeport, Connecticut. Not proud of it, but it
like went bankrupt a few times.A couple of mayors were indicted, you

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know. But I always wanted tocome from a town that had like a
little gazebo, you know, likethe praise Fourth of July. You know,
but this is Bridgeport. So nowI live in Los Angeles. Yeah,
but I feel like, I mean, even though you get so associated
with New York, you've been inLA like forever. Yeah, I've been
there, Yeah, since you know, the nineteen hundreds they got there.

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But I did go back and forthin New York. It was like school
for me college when I was doingSNL, Right, I would go there
and it would be like around Septemberand the September and I go to my
apartment that I kept there, Irented it, and I opened up my
closet. It was all the flannelshirts, you know. I go,
oh, yeah, man, herewe go. It's like a school year.
And then we wrap it up backaround May, because like, I
only think of you as ever beingfamous, Like I just feel like,

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no, no, I'm being serious. I just feel like Kevin Neilan has
been famous forever. They call thata legend. Kevin Neilan is a goddamn
legend. The but the the like, I don't think of you as being
that guy who, like as akid, as a young teenager, or
as a teenager who was like,all right, I'm gonna drive from Connecticut

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and I'm gonna go to Los Angelesand I'm going to try to become a
stand up comic. Like that doesn'tquait for me. It's just, oh,
it's Kevin Neilan. Of course he'sfamous ever everybody knows who he is.
He made it and TV movies andthe whole thing. And so I
don't ever think of you as beingthat guy who was like, well,
let me go see if I canif I can even try this and get

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going. Well, I would tellyou that it was twofold be going to
Los Angeles to get a stand upThere was also a woman involved. There
was a woman I met in Italy. She was studying abroad. This is
when I was twenty four, twentyfive and we kept in touch, and
she went to Gonzaga and we're keepingin touch, and I'm going I'm gonna
go to Spokene. On the wayout there, I'm gonna sweep her off
her feet. She's gonna come toLa with me, And I'm excited.

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So You're gonna go Connecticut to Spokeane, down La, down to La with
this obviously lovely woman who was very, very lovely. So I was so
maddenly in love with her. Wewould keep writing letters to each other,
you know, like every week.And and so I get to Spoken and
I go to her apartment. Iknock on the door, no answer.
Knock on the door again, noanswer. I waited for like an hour,

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nothing. So I take off.And a couple of years later,
I found out that the guy,another guy that was going to school with
her in Gonzaga, had a crushon her, and she he knew that
I was coming to Spoken to seeher, so he swept her away from
there. He took her away somewhere, and uh, and I never got
to see her. And they've beenmarried for like forty five year up really

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two grown kids. Oh that bumsme out. I don't think it's gonna
last. But I'm wrong for everywhen it doesn't. In my mind,
it was like, great, Iwent away with this guy. Other guy
goes on to become Kevin Neilan andI'm stuck now with this. Yeah,

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I know, I know, butyou know what, it all worked out
the but it is the story true. You get out to Los Angeles and
you and you, you want tobe a stand up You drive right to
right to a comedy club. Youright, and literally just walk in and
I don't know who the owner ofthe of the comedy club is, but
you go watch me go hide.My name's Kevin. I want to be
a stand up comedian and I'm hereand it just happens to be the owner

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of the place, and he's right, sweet come to an open mic,
well sort of, that's the waywhen I go to the improv. I
parked my car, which is anineteen seventy three Pontiac grand Borrow that my
grandfather used to have one hundred thousandmiles out of. So that must have
been a nice ride from Connecticut.Oh yeah, it broke down in Portland
somewhere. So I knocking. I'mlooking through the window and the owner Bud

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Freeman, it was responsible for allthese improper own comedy clubs and the brick
wall thing. He sees me andhe helps in the door. He goes,
can I help you? I said, oh, ah, hi,
I'm Kevin. I you know,I've heard so much about your club and
I love comedy. I just wantto come out and see what it looked
like. He was. Come on, and he shows me around. He
brings me into the back room,the showroom, and I'm just like,
this is the author of comedy becauseI know who's performed on that stage.

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You know, Robin Williams, SteveMartin, Albert Brooks, all these people
that I admired, Andy Kaufman.And he shows me around and as he
leads me out and he goes,we'll come back again, and I said
I will. And I came backprobably for since right now. I was
there the other night. The okay, but let's hit pause there for a
second. True or false when youwent back to go do an open mic

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right now, because at that pointyou're not the legend Kevin Neeling. No.
I even told him I wanted todo stand up. Oh. He
was just like, come back.I was scared. No, no,
but that's what I was gonna say. Didn't isn't isn't the story. You
would pull up to the improva andyou would you would be like, Okay,
okay, there it is right.I'll try again tomorrow, and you
would leave, and eventually it waslike you got you got the balls to

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get out of the car and youwould stand on the sidewalk at closer there
it is there, it is allright. Back in the car and come
back back up to the town andat forty five minute drive. So every
Sunday. That happened every week,every Sunday. Yeah, And then eventually
I got the nerve to go intothe barra area up front and hang out,
and then I go into the backshowroom keeping a low profile, and

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then I put my name in thebucket like maybe two months later, and
they called it for two months.She just drove there and looked at just
looked at it. Slowly edged myway in. You know. It's like
a feral dog and looking culser andcloser to the dog food. You know.
It's kind of a phrase looking around, you know. And so I
go in there and they call myname the peak of it back room.

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They say Kevin Neilan and everybody's lookingaround and I'm looking around, you know,
say they won't see me because I'mnot going up. Man, isn't
too many people? Oh wait,so you weren't good to go? Oh,
I don't. I didn't go up, No, but then find men
go up? No, I calledyour name with all those people, I
don't rush into it anyway. Thenext week there was maybe two tables of
four and I was like one threein the morning. They called me up

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and I had the best I washooked. I was addicted to it.
Were you really? Were you goodat the time? Probably not, but
good enough to keep going back andnot told to go home? Right,
And eventually, and I lived there. When people came out to visit me
and they say, hey, wherecan we go like the Man's Chinese theater?
I said, I don't know,man, I can take you to
the improv That's all I know.And eventually I got a job bartending there

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for two years, right and uh. And it was on open mic night
and so it was a slow night. But yeah, just things started snowballing
and I got more and more experienceand watched all these comics come in.
I see any Kaufman, Robin Williamscoming from Mork and Mindy still had the
suspenders on. I love that storyin your book. I love that story,
the the the the parts of thatthat I love, and then will

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eventually get to the book, butwhich is really kind of your memoir more
than anything, the I love wherelike I think he's the first one,
if I if I remember correctly,and it's Robin Williams. And you talk
about like here's here's this idol,this Robin Williams and he's never off and
he's fine, and you talk abouthow he would come straight from the Mork

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and Mindy set, still dressed asmore Right and hop up on stage.
But you said something about him thatI thought was really interesting where you said
when the first time I saw RobinWilliams perform, it actually made me feel
depressed because at that point I knewI'll never be that good. Yeah.
It was a total different style fromwhat I was imagining I would do.
Right, And I never heard ofhim before a lot of people hadn't heard

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of him. This was like beforeMark and Mindy, Right, and he
was kind of like a street comic, you know, he's very he walks
through the audience and take people's youknow, women's purses and pull out stuff
and make fun of it. Ohthere's a good you know, that's a
top on, you know, anduh and then you go up on stage.
He never used a mic, youknow, because he's used to working
on the streets. He just andhe had this these moves because he want

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the Juilliard, you know. Anduh and I'm just like trying to think
of a joke. But yeah,so I kind of got to know him
over the thirty five forty years thatI you know, he'd come into the
clubs and stuff and uh. Andit was never it was never like a
personal thing, you know. Itwas always I called him Babo, he
called me boss. He called everybodyhy boss because you know, he can't

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remember the names. Probably you meetsomebody people, right and uh And I
never really had a real conversation withhim, but it was you know,
but like when you talk about likeseeing all like those those icons go through
when you were just a bartender,like you mentioned Andy Kaufman, Yeah,
who was if the if? Whowere when when you were when you were
back home in Connecticut and you weregonna make minus the pit stop to go

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grab that woman, but you wereon your way to LA because you were
going to be a comment. Whowere the who? Who were who was
the mount rushmore for you? Well, Steve Martin, Andy Kaufman, and
Albert Brooks, and I met allof them and I'm friends with two of
them now right. And I justhelped dedicate this any Kaufman's star on the
Hollywood Walk of Fame a couple ofweeks ago, and which was a real
treat for me because I mean Iwould he was so unique. That's what

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I was looking for, someone who'sthe original and unique. And there was
the people like Letterman and Jay Lenothere two who were good. But those
guys really impressed me, and Ithink it influenced me a lot. The
so when you when you end uplike meeting them the first time and seeing
them come through, like does thatdoes that drive it? Or or was
it like a Robin Williams thing whereyou're like, oh, that's a whole

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other level. Oh yeah, I'dbe sitting in that back showcase Rooim and
and uh, you know, JayLenno would get up and he'd crush it.
You know, he's a stand up. He's really good. And I'm
just you know, I'm just thinking, man, I don't know, you
know, And I was, Iwas even thinking about going home, going
back to Connecticut, back to Connecticutafter like you can't do that. Well,
I wanted to give myself, like, you know, two months to

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feel it out, see if Ihad some you know, potential. So
I have enough months. Yeah,in two months, you're going to decide
whether or not. You know whatI'm gonna be. I'm gonna snl here
I come. I'm giving myself twomonths to get this done. No,
I was giving myself two months toget inside the improv No, whatever it

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was, it wasn't a long time. And I had enough money for this
rent. I was paying one hundredand thirty five dollars a month for this
house, this little apartment on topof the house, not too far from
Paramount and uh, and then Ihad enough money, I think, for
gas to get back to Connecticut.I didn't know what to do, so
I called it from a pay phoneand I talked to my dad. I
said, Dad, I don't knowwhat to do. Man, I don't

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know if I should stay, ifI should go. And I know he
wanted me home, but because he'ssuch a great dad. He goes,
you know, you're a big boy, stay out there, you know,
give it a shot, right,I said, but dad, it's already
been in three days. Come on. So that's why I stayed out there.
I gotta a lot of it tohim, and and it's just been
a great trip. Man. Iloved it. Even if I never made
it, I'd still be doing openmic nights right now, would you really?

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Yeah? Like that was your lifegoal was to be a stand up
call. Yeah, that's all itwas. And then you know this,
uh, this, this actor cameup, this teacher actually sat next to
me at the bar. He goes, do you ever think about acting?
I said no, and I justwanted to stand up. He goes,
well, you know, because alot of direct casting directors come in here
and they like somebody, they'll havethem come and read right well reading.
I said, oh, maybe Ishould take some acting classes. He goes,

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yeah, here's my card. Iteach you on tuesdays. Yeah.
And so I started taking a lotof acting lessons around town, right,
And I learned how to do coldreadings, and and then that's snowball.
I started getting commercials. I startedgetting guest parts on TV shows and uh,
and then SNL came along and waswhat what backed me up before SNL
backed me up? Well, actually, I want to go back two stories

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and again. So the book isI exaggerate and and Kevin is got a
the the artwork is amazing, andI don't understand all the they're caricatures,
but then you yeah, but likethey're there, they don't look like the
guy at the park or there whodoes like it looks like art, but
it's caricature art, caricature, butyou know what it is. I don't

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know what the hell more about this. I'm a little confused. No,
no, but it is a littleconfusing because you hear caricatures and you do
you think of the guy at theat the at the fair. But it's
like they're they're they're painted, they'remean, they're beautiful, beautiful pieces of
work. But in the in thebook, it is a picture of somebody
famous, and then it'll be yourconnection to them. It'll be a caricature

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of them. And then if Iknow them, I'll talk about my experience
with them, how they're friends.Chris Farley, whoever it is, Robin
Williams, right, David Letterman,whoever? And and I thought that would
be interesting instead of just having pictures. So there's about sixty paintings in here,
right, with different and not everybodylikes their painting. A few in
fact, when I was doesn't likeit. Well, I was doing the

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book tour, right, And Iprobably tell you this because I get back
to him. But so as acourtesy, I asked a few people if
they wouldn't mind me showing their paintings, you know, in the talk Jimmy
Fallon whatever, and and Jim Carreysaid, no problem, no problem,
Steve Martin, no problem. Andthen I sent I sent one to uh,

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to an agent and uh. Theagent hated it, and he hated
it and his one. Everybody hatedit. Right, So it's it's Christopher
walking, and it's a great picture. It's a great character. I think,
he said, under no circumstances canyou use this to promote your But
you know, I feel bad thatI didn't like it, But you know

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it's in the book already. Whatam I gonna dot in the book?
No? But you know what,it's funny that didn't even dawn on me.
Didn't nobody in that book know thatthey were going to be in the
book. No, no, no, And nobody even knew that stretched their
picture because I was afraid to showthem. Right. It's like even on
airplanes, I sketched people on theother row and they're sleeping usually, and

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I sketch them and I never showthem, and then that's what's in the
front of the book. It's justpeople sleeping on airplanes. Right. But
but yeah, what I how Ilearned it. It was subconsciously. I
was in my bedroom and on thewall, which I could see at night,
laying in bed, were two caricaturesof my parents do when you're a
kid. I was a kid growingup, and they were really done well,

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not by these people in fairs andas Parisian artists who pastel's different colors.
And I would study those every night, just come subconsciously. I'd be
looking at it. They oh,yeah, look at the her tits aren't
that big, so you know,so that's where a lot of it came
from. And then growing up,I'd like the doodle during sn Elder and

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the table reads that sketch who's everacross from me, whether it's Farley or
people whomever, And and and thenI did Howard Stern was right, he
goes a man I like these,you know, I should call him in,
right him in. I started callinghim in and I started getting spending
more time with him, and Itook a lesson from this guy on the
on Instagram Paul Moist's name is.He lives in England, right, And

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I learned some of the basics fromthat and just started watching these other Instagram
things and uh, and just learnedfrom Matt the can I can? I
So, like you said, you'reyou're sitting at SNL and during like the
table read where they're going through andstuff. But you you mentioned Farley.
Was he and I don't I hateto be that guy, but I don't
know anybody that's ever run into himthat was like not really my cup of

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tea was he was? He thegreatest. He was great. He you
know, I think though I thinkhe felt like he wasn't enough. Really.
Yeah. He always felt like hehad to make people laugh. He
always had to get you to laugh, and that's a lot of work,
not that I do that. SoI remember the day he got off the
elevator Studio eight age and he wasso excited, you know, he was

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just I could feel the vibes comingfrom him, and he was pulling up
his pants like it was Matt Fullythevational speaker, you know. And and
he would hang out with with Sandlerand those guys and that side of the
building seventeenth floor, and it wasSandler and Spade and tim Meadows and Rock
was around there somewhere, and hewas always trying to get those guys to

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laugh. And they egged him ontoo, no matter what it was.
You know, like one time Saidlerwanted to stick it. I mean not
Saidler, but Farley. So he'sgonna stick his ass out the window seventeenth
floor and take a dump down theand they're all, do it, do
it? Do it? So,you know, he drops his pants and
he's sticking his ass out as faras he can get and he takes a

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big tumb but it didn't clear thewindow sill. The window sill it's still
there today. Now, is thestory true when when you interviewed with with
Lorne Michaels and he offered you thejob, did you really tell him I'll
think about it over the weekend andget back to Yeah, I did,

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because did you know at that momentthough, I'm taking this job? Oh
god, yeah, are you kiddingme? And I think he knew it
too, but my manager said toplay you know, yeah sure, and
uh so he asked me, Hegoes, well, what do you think
would you like to be on theshow? Uh? God, well,
let me think about it over theweekend. And he goes, what do

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you think about it over the weekend. I'll see in New York on Monday.
And he did. But what Ididn't know was that my manager also
managed him, so he probably Michaels. He's fine, he's coming a matter
of fact, low ball. I'mgonna tell him to take it. Yeah,
yeah, he's gonna come in.He's gonna say, let me think
about it week Just say, whatis your what what was your prior to

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SNL? What was your connection toDana Carvey? Dana and I knew each
other from the stand up circuit.Okay, he lived in San Francisco.
Whenever I went up there, Iwould stay at his house. He lived
with paul A Poundstone for a whileup there, a big old house they
call at the old Cooper House.So I was staying there when he came
down to La. Eventually I hada hill a house in the Hollywood Hills

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with another comic and a writer,and Dana rented the apartment over the garage
and we would hang out in thedriveway just kind of jamming on stuff.
And he was really good with theimpressions and stuff, right, and so
of course he gets selectly be onSNL. I'm excited for him. I'm
proud, you know, I'm happythat I know somebody in SNL. And
off he goes to UH to NewYork. And that's like in the summer

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for that coming fall season. Andtwo weeks after he's gone, I got
a call for him. He goes, keV, I'm out of Laura Michael's
house, I mean the back betterroom. Guess he was in the kitchen,
Bill Murray. I said, noway. He goes, yeah,
hey, man, listen to this. Lauren's looking for one more cast member.
I told him about you, andI think he's gonna want to see
your audition tape. Said are youserious? Did you think he was lying?

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No? Oh, so you believedat that point, well, okay,
all I knew that Bill Murray wasin the kitchen. Was in the
kitchen. I wasn't hearing that otherstuff, because I didn't want to buy
into that, because I knew I'dnever get in that on that show.
And but I said my audition tapein. And then the next week I
got another call Kevin, good news, Lauren, like your tape. I
think they're gonna fly you in foran audition. Oh guess who's in the
kitchen, Steve Martin. And againI'm like Steve Martins in the kitchen anyway,

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I fly in. And because Idon't do character characters or impressions or
accents, stand up a really reallygood stand up. Thank you, thank
you. It's true. You'll seeI'll show you. But the show at
that point, then you obviously fly. Yeah, I fly in. I
go to Studio eight h I've neverbeen there before, and I do my
little audition. I don't even rememberwhat it was. And I fly back

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to LA and then I'm sitting ona high rise and Beverly Hills across from
Luren. He's asking me, he'soffering me the job. Dude. That's
awesome, it's crazy. That's awesome. Because I never a lot of people
say how did you get on SNLA, although they phrase the more like this,
how did you get on this thethe But anyway, what I was
what I was going to go backto, is in the book you have

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a caricature. I don't like callthem caricatures because I don't want people to
think that it is the fair thingI exaggerate is the book My brush is
with Fame and Johnny Carson is inthere. Yeah, that may be the
greatest stand up story ever. Whereit is And I'm gonna paraphrase and it

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correct me when I start getting itwrong. Is so you're living in La
Wrong, But you're I'm living inLa No. No, but you would
drive. You would drive to theTonight Show set almost every day. Right.

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It wasn't far from my house,like maybe a half hour and there
was a line up front. Bythe way, thank you for reading the
book. The well, you're verygreat. No, it's it's it's awesome.
It's the artwork. Just to lookat the pictures is great. But
you start reading the stories and itlike there's stuff in there and the Carson
story we have to tell and youread that and you're like, oh my

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god, this is amazing, Likeit's an amazing moment of time. Right,
because I used to watch stand upson that show, and that made
the stand up. It validated astand up comic, and especially if you're
your first time, that was excitingto watch a comic on for the first
time. And if you got calledover to be on the couch with him,
that was like, oh that wasthat was the biggest comment, ultimate
right. So I'll go there.I there's always lines out front for people

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to watch. It's all free.They give you two tickets each and I
knew that, and I wasn't goingto go there at three in the afternoon
and wait three hours to get in, so I knew the process. I
would go there maybe a half hourbefore they let them in. I go
up and down that line, verysympathetic. I say, does anyone have
an extra ticket? Does anyone havean exence? And I'd always get one
and I go in there and it'dbe like a Vegas show. He would

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come out, warm up the audiencea little bit, to talk to the
audience, and then you know theother people, and then I would see
everybody like comics on there, PaulMcCartney, and I'm like, this is
amazing and it's free. And theband I knew the band, every buddy
I knew who played the trombone.I didn't know their names, but I
knew where they sat. And soI auditioned you like a couple of years
later, four or five, sixyears later, and I get passed to

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be Tonight show. So you gowatch this thing and you're doing stand up
and you're working your ass off.Five years later, the guy who books
the comics, Yeah, you auditionedfor him, right, And he says,
well, first of all, I'mso nervous. I got sweat coming
on me. It never came outof before. I got sweat running down
the back of my legs. Iwas so nervous. And yeah, and
he said no, oh yeah,the first couple of times, no,

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no, And then he says,then he wants me to audition for a
show called the Mike Nesmith Show.It used to be one of the most
monkeys, right, And I sayokay, And I'm thinking, well,
I'm gonna do what I want todo this time. I'm not going to
try and customize it for what Ithink is good for the Tonight Show.
So I do my bit then andhe calls me the next day. He
goes, well, I got goodnews and bad news. The bad news
is I don't think that Mike NesmithShow is gonna be right for you.

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But the good news is, well, i'd love to have you come on
the Tonight Show. WHOA sorry monkeys? Okay, And that's great. You
get there. You're nervous wreck.I got like four days to prepare,
right, and all I could thinkabout was my five minute act. I
could be talking to you right now, and I'd be not in my head
like I'm listening, but really ringthrough your five over over and over and

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over. And I drive there.I can't believe I want to be able
to find show. I pull intothe parking lot. Do you call everybody
you know? Pretty much? Yeah? I be on the Tonight Show.
Be on the Tonight Show. Sure, which was scary because I mean,
what if I bomb, They're allgonna know? And I so I pull
into the parking spot and I seeJohnny Carson's car. It's right next to

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mine. He's got the guy's anice car, like a Porsche or something.
Everybody you got I had like adot's in two tens calor no radio.
Here you go. And I getout of my car and I hit
his car really hard with my doughI just let him know who's boss,
you know. And I go inthere and I can't believe it. I
thought, I don't know how Icould do this, but I have to

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do it because I've been given theopportunity. If I don't do it,
I'll never never, I'll always regretit. So I go into my truss
room and I'm getting changed and I'mliterally shaking. And then they take me
to makeup, putting the makeup onme, and then Carson comes and he
sticks his head in there. Hegoes, I have a good show.
I go k they said, girl, that was Johnny Carson talk to me,
and so okay. So I gobehind the curtain sign for the stand

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up to come out. I thinkMichael Landon was on before me from the
Lanza and that's right, and uh. And then they're away at commercial right,
and I'm standing there and this talentcoordinators trying to make me feel good.
His name was Jim mcculey, andhe's dancing. He's like a little
Irish lepicon and I think this ismaking me more nervous and distracted than if

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I could just do it in myhead. Right, So the band's playing,
I could picture the band because Iwatched from the audience so many times,
and I knew who's got on thetrumbone and and uh and then it
stops, and then it Carson introducedme, and then curtain opens and I'm
walking out any black floor and theaudience is applauding, and on the way
out to that little mark where I'msupposed to stand, totally went blank.

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About five minutes, I forgot everypiece of it, and I know Carson's
over there and Ed McMahon and Iget and the audience is telling, applauding,
and finally it dies down one clapleft. I remembered my act and
I started doing it and people arelaughing, and I got applause breaks and
in my head, I'm floating outsidemy body, thinking I'm on the Tonight
Show, right sure, Carson.I can hear Carson laughing, You're doing

(25:30):
good, keep going, And soI finish. I'm so happy, and
I walked back to the curtain,Johnny gezing that little okay signal and I
think, okay, I guess I'mnot getting it's my first time. Also,
all the people at the improv whereI came up are watching the TV
out by the bar whenever somebody doestheir first improv. So they're all watching

(25:52):
it and they're applaud afterwards, andand then I go behind the curtain and
the talent coordinator. Uh, hesays, that was great, that was
great. Okay, hang on here, I think Johnny's gonna want to see
you on panel on the couch,I said, what, He goes,
what else can we talk about it? There? I said, get out
of my way, Johnny, let'stalk to me. I don't need you
anymore, ya, but I justI love the idea that you like.

(26:18):
For years you went and watched andthen we're told no. And then on
the walk out, there your yourbig moment. Yeah gone gone, head
is empty, nothing there, nothingthere, still nothing there. But now
fast forward. Did that ever happenat SNL? No? Because we had
cute cards? Oh yeah, no, I guess that's But I remember I

(26:41):
never had a bigger high than goingon the Tonight Show. That's the highlight
of my career, more really,more so than SNL or Weeds or anything
like that. But I remember doingthe first sketch on SNL and it was
misress subliminal, which is kind ofa hard thing to do because you have
two conversations kind of going on atonce, right, right, and and
Lauren Michael's ten seconds to go beforeI go on my first sketch live TV.

(27:03):
He comes up to me. Heputs his hand on my shoulder,
and he goes, are you surethis is what you want? I said,
let me think about it over theweekend. All right, let me
do this. Let me take aquick break. Kevin Neilan is with us.
He is at the Comedy Loft inDC. Two shows tonight, two
shows tomorrow night, and then onSunday. The Comedy Loft dot com for

(27:26):
tickets. Quick break, It's Elliottin the morning. Elliott, Elliott in
the morning. Oh sorry, Kevin, were you were you getting ready to
tell me something bad? I'm justgonna say, were you good at school?
Yes, you're guessing. No,No, I would just say I

(27:48):
did six weeks of college, butI was very good. No, that
is true, but no, Idid very well in school. I was
an honor student, thank you forsix weeks. No, in high school,
I was an honor student. Yeah, No, I six weeks.
I left college and went moved toLos Angeles. All right, right,
right, yeah, exactly, allright, right night. But you were
garbage in school. Okay, no, I'm asking that garbage, but you

(28:11):
you weren't a great student. Iwasn't great, but I was likable.
The I was likable. In fact, they did take and I was just
saying to Megan, whom brought mehere. I took a night course in
college three credits so I could playon their football team because I love football,
and that's that made you eligible.And so it was in criminology,
right. I went to like threeclasses and I got to play the whole

(28:33):
season on their football team. Whatschool was that? Fareful University in Connecticut?
Are you serious? Yeah? Farefield, Connecticut? And you took one
class, one class and played footballMVP quarterback and kicker and punter. And
you know what, Elliott, Iwas so good. I when I went
to LA I was going to doa walk on tryout for the LA Express.

(28:56):
I think they were called there wasuh teacher, Yeah, because I
had a really good hang time withmy kicking. I can't tell if you're
in you're being serious. Yeah,I wouldn't kid about that, you know,
I don't care about that stuff.So I thought this would be great
for my stand up career because asthey introduced me, this guy's very very

(29:17):
funny coming to stage now. Andby the way, he's also the punter
stress. I'm assuming you never wentand tried to walk on. Well I
didn't because luckily my career took offin comedy before the trade, because you
know, if I went on tokick, it would be different, like
all right, coming to kick now. Kevin Nealon, by the way,
also a stand up comic. Didyou did you? Did you play?

(29:38):
Like? Growing up? The wholetime, I played a lot of salot
football, right, I never playedorganized like high school or anything. But
we played with helmets, shoulder pads, all that stuff and no refs and
we played gangs from across town onthe football field and it was brutal.
I mean, we were really afights broke out, so I was kind
of tough, you know, Wereyou really? Yeah? Were you?
You were a big fighter back whenyou were only when I had to.

(29:59):
I didn't start fight because I gothit once and then. But so yeah,
so I had some experience with football. I had a good arm too,
I could throw really far. Andit's just like you never played organized
football and then you were starting quarterbacka team that's right. They weren't that
good. And the start, well, what happened was the starting quarterback got

(30:21):
hurt right the first game, soI got to play the whole season.
Look at you, yeah, andlook at you. And then some of
the players were kind of jealous,I think, because they want to be
quarterback. And so we show upfor spring training the next day, I
mean the next year, by theway of twenty seven. Now now I'm
twenty one or twenty two, anduh, the coach calls us, send

(30:42):
me and my buddy, and hegoes, guys, you gotta take twelve
credits. Man, people were youknow, I don't know somehow you know,
I'll change it. Now you gottatake I said, Okay, screw
you. I'm gonna go do standup count in LA and pick up my
girl. I'm want to go backto one more thing about the book.
I I exaggerate. Are you areyou doing another one? I guess I

(31:06):
will because people are saying why I'maren't I in the book, you know?
And I said, because you're myfriend. So so now people are
asking like, hey, put mein, put me in, put me
in. Yeah, it's funny,you know, I start these things where
people don't really notice, right,like I do this hiking show too right,
so good, thank you, sogood. And I started with nobody
knew it. And now people arecalling me, Hey, can my client

(31:26):
get on your show? On yourhiking show? Are they really? Yeah?
Yeah? And you know I'm inthat position now. I think I
don't really wouldn't be right for myall hiking show. How do I say
no in a nice way? Youknow, I'm you know, I'm sorry,
Jim Carrey. But what started?What I mean? I think I
know the kind of the history ofI can't remember who you were talking to.

(31:51):
Maybe it was Colan O'Brien where itwas like, wouldn't it be funny
if like you were out of breathor like you couldn't breathe? What happened?
I call my friend Matthew Modine thatyeah, and uh, I say,
matt you want to go for ahike. He goes, yeah,
sure, So we go to you'rea big hiking guy to begin with,
it's I don't even wear hiking bootssneakers. You know, I'm going walking

(32:12):
up these trail trail and some ofthem are difficult. So he goes,
sure, we didn't seen each otherfor a while, and so we're going
up this kind of difficult trail.Getting near the top, I'm both like
yeah, And I said, soMatt, and when you came to Hollywood,
you know, and he'd answered meback. I said, this would
be a funny talk show, likeif I was interviewing you and we were
both out of breath. So,you know, I held my cell phone

(32:34):
off. I said, so youdid you know? What do you have
to know? And uh? AndI posted on Twitter a little two minute
segments and people start liking it.But then on on the way down the
back side of the mount, Istarted asking more serious questions. I said,
Matt, you ever turned down amovie you read? You read it,
you turned down and you're oh,god my yeah. A lot of
movies after Full Metal Jacket, Iwas turning down everything I would turned down,

(32:57):
you know, the Wolf of WallStreet, you know, Charlie Sheen,
part Tom Hanks and Big Michael Fox, Jay Fox in Back to the
Future. I said, you idiotposted that too, so you know,
so then it kind of snowballed andI said, you know, he actually
said you should do this every week, you know, hiking with Cavin Sae.
Yeah, it's a good idea.So I started more and more a
little two minute segments, and thenI eventually stretched it out. I got

(33:20):
a better camera, right, Igot a drone. Right, I started
editing myself. You know, likenow it's a job. Now it's a
job, man, Now it's ajob. But I love it. I
love doing it. It's I hikewith everyone from Tiffany Hattis, Norah Jones,
was on Paul Rudd. You knowwho was great? You know who
was really really good and the Andmaybe it's because I didn't know what to
expect. Julian Lennon, Yeah thatwas And again I just don't put him

(33:45):
in the The first of all,I love hearing, like when when you
two are when you two are hikingand he says or you said to him,
do you remember the first time wemet and it was at like some
club or something, it was,Yeah, it was at the premier of
love that searched a Selah show.That's right, that's right. But like
again, like I don't know why, but like number one, I didn't
I didn't know what to expect fromJulian Lennon. I certainly didn't know didn't

(34:08):
expect to know that, Like youtwo hang out at you know, at
the at the at the Love Yeah, but I talked to I met him
there opening Love the But then myfavorite question was asking him who his favorite
beatle is, Like that's hysterical,yeah, but it's just like and then
there's other ways like Nate bark GETSIand stuff like that, where where you're
walking along, do people know whoyou are when you're walking? I mean

(34:30):
you do? You have like thestupid selfie at the end, right,
Yeah, A lot of times likewhen the when the when the trail gets
narrow and you're like two old womenlike shuffling your way through, and I'm
the one out of breath most ofthe time. But yeah, people do
recognize or they'll come up and say, oh my god, I love your
show. I got I gotta keepdoing him And he say, well,

(34:51):
all right, because I always thinkevery show, I think, oh this
is the last one man pion.But you know, if I hike with
like Jack Black, who I hikedwith, people are stopping like every ten
minutes. That's why I don't goin a weekend because there's more hikers out
there. Right. But I hidwith Caitlyn Jenner one time and uh,
because you still Bruce Jenner, right, and uh, my favorite question to

(35:12):
ask her was, Caitlyn, ifyou could change one thing about what would
be changed? You get it?So is that gonna? Is that gonna
keep going? I feel like you'veslowed down a little bit on releasing episodes.
Well because of the pandemic, nono, come on, no,

(35:32):
no no, we took a yearand a half off, right, I
say we, but it's just me. And but also because of the writers
strike. Right, Like when I'mintroducing them, I can't promote whatever they're
doing that's talking about it. That'strue A lot of times that's part of
the part of the thing there canI can I ask you this though,
like the so there's Kevin Neil andthe writer, there's Kevin Neil and the

(35:53):
the actor. So you kind ofget hit on both sides. Your your
your wife is an actress? Haveyou And just like for post and stuff,
you've been pretty I don't know ifactive is the right word, but
busy at the at the picket linesand being supportive and the whole thing is
this is this thing any closer toending? I don't think so. Really,
I don't think so is it thathard to figure out or is it

(36:15):
just people being not wanting to getthere yet? Well, I think it's
people don't realize that these companies arebig conglomerates. They're not. You know,
this television and movie thing is justone thing they do, and they
probably don't even care about it thatmuch. Right, so, you know,
it's to end their strike probably isn'tsomething they are in a hurry to

(36:36):
do, but you know, itmakes a lot of sense to me.
I mean, people should be gettingpaid for their you know, for all
the streaming stuff and you know,writing and because without the writers or the
actors, there'd be no shows.Unfortunately, there's so many shows bank now,
there's so many platforms. They couldstart these show these things forever.
It seems like, well that thatthat was the other thing we were talking
I guess was yesterday or the daybefore is where it's where's the like,

(37:00):
where's the cutoff point where it's likeif the strike goes beyond X date,
like then there really is nothing toair. Like now, I know they
have like reality shows that they couldthey could go to or reruns or or
if if if it ended today,and everybody went back to work. Yeah,
they would still have time to getstuff produced and get things done.

(37:22):
Yeah, when when does that linebecause they have to be looking at that
line also, when when is thatpoint before they can get it done?
Like? When when is that pointwhere if we don't get back to work
then we lose seasons? Oh?I mean I mean the producers saying that.
Companies, I don't think they looseseasons. I think they have stuff

(37:44):
banks already, things that have beendone very much and a lot of stuff.
They have a lot of stuff,or they could show reruns, right,
you know a lot of these asyou know, there's all these series
like I've been watching a pee Blinderslately, right, I love and you
know there's six seasons of that,and there's other shows where they have a
lot of seasons too, so theyget they are of those. But I
mean, I really don't know.I don't know what the story is behind

(38:05):
it. I mean, but peopleare out there picking and I have two
T shirts. It'll be valuable oneday. I got so many T shirts
in my closet I can't throw away. How about you the Yeah, probably
not the same cool ones that youhave, Yeah, I got Moscow nineteen
eighty with the Olympics that were canceled. They were canceled, and the shirts

(38:27):
like two sizes too small for me. But I stay with it. I
keep it, you know. Igot concerts that I went to. Are
you a big music kid? Iplayed the guitar and the five string banjo,
right, No, No, ButI meant like going to shows.
I was just saying earlier today,I don't. I don't like going to
concerence anymore because it's just it's justtoo it's too unruly. You know,
people are ever you know, youcan't. I am a mash guy,

(38:52):
right, I go for the mash, but not for the music. Creat
Yeah, but I love rock androll. I mean I grew up,
you know, listen to a lotof rock and roll classic stuff, right,
But you know, I just can'tsee myself going to a concert now.
And the last concert I think Iwent to was Jimmy Buffett actually,
oh really yeah, And it wasat the Hollywood ball And I got there

(39:13):
late and I couldn't get a seatand I had to stand there the speakers,
right, and everybody, the parrotheads were all drunk and you know,
waving their whols and stuff, andI thought, I don't know if
I could do this anymore. Idon't know, you know, the long
lines in the bathroom, you knowme. I get up a couple of
times in a concert, and Ihave got one of those porta potties though

(39:36):
little plastic. Johnny, did youlike did you like when when when musical
guests would come to Yes? Andoh yeah, yeah, yeah, I
love that. I was a bigfan of James Taylor, right, and
I would, uh, I meanJim Taylor. Uh no, James Taylor,
and I would and he would beon a show. I couldn't believe
it. And I got to talkto him, Paul McCartney, Keith Richards,
Mick Jagger, Paul Simon, allthese dinosaurs that you listened to,

(40:00):
and Aerosmith. And I would aska lot of these guys because I played
the guitar, I said, thelad guitarist. I'd say, who who
influenced you the most growing up witha with a guitar? He goes,
oh, Chuck Berry. Everybody saidChuck Berry. Oh really yeah yeah.
But James Taylor, I was ahuge fan. And I don't know if
he read that part in my book, but I was talking to him near

(40:20):
the craft service table, right foodand stuff, and I was asking him,
Jim, now, James, howdo you form this? Are you
using your pinky on that cord?He goes yeah. I said, oh,
I'm afraid of that. And wegot the talking and he long story
short, he goes, you know, we we have to hang out sometime.
You know. I say that alot, but I really mean it.
Here's my phone number. And I'mlike, oh my god, I
got James Dayle's phone number. AndI'm so excited. And I don't know

(40:42):
when to call him, you know, it's like a girl. And I
go home. I think, okay, two days, that's enough time.
And I call him and he's readyto go. I go to his apartment.
I go up the elevator and heopens the door. He's standing there
with his dog. This is aguy I grew up listening to me trying
to learn how to play his songs, lift them the needle up off the
record, put going to his concerts. That's why they're with their concerts.
And and I show up and hegoes, you're ready? I go yeah,

(41:04):
And he goes, where do youwant to eat? I said,
whatever? You want to do.He goes, well, there's a great
Cuban restaurant on Broadway, and I'mlike, oh, that's spicy, man,
I can't eat spicy. You know. I sweat, I got all
red. But it's James Taylor.I'm not gonna say it. What he
whatever wants to do, I'll doit. So we get there and I'm
eating that spicy food and I amjust I am dripping and I'm red,
and I'm asking him questions like nowwhat about you were pinky? Do you

(41:27):
use them? And on that part. So yeah, I did meet a
lot of musicians I'm sorry, airClapton, and they stay after some of
them they play a little concert there, did they? Oh at the at
the video, that's awesome. That'sgreat. Prince the by the way,
your your portrait of Prince is it'sjust him smiling, and I think it's
from the like what was it SNLforty. It was the fortieth after party

(41:51):
Plaza Hotel. Everybody's there, everybodytuxedos. It was like the Hollywood Wax
Museum. You know, there's anyremember there's and then I'm standing outside the
ballroom with my wife. Other peopleare there and I turn around face to
face with Prince and he, uh, he smiles, and I smile because
we both know each other from youknow, on TV, and uh,
and I've never seen him a smilelike that. So that's what I depicted

(42:14):
in the I remember from like yousee the picture and you're like, oh
my god, Prince has teeth right, but he's short. So we talk
a little bit, you know,just small talk, and uh, he
said, you know, I don'tsay this off, but I really like
to hang out with you sometimes.It didn't happen, but he shook my

(42:34):
hand, and then I introduced itto my wife because my wife is a
huge fan of his, you know, loves purple rain and all that stuff,
and I appreciate him, but I'mnot that big of a fan.
And she shakes his hand and thenhe leaves with these you know, this
backup band girls with their shaved headsand stuff, and he just kind of
filters away, and my wife goes, oh my god, Prince never touches
anybody. I shook our hands,and I think I felt like a purple

(42:59):
electricity coming through my arm. Isaid, okay, we need to go.
I just liked the like, likethe total afterthought in that whole story
was like, ohen, Taylor Swift'splaying in the background somewhere. That's right,
he was. Actually I forgot aboutthat. Yeah, I mean everybody
was on that stage. Paul McCartney, Taylor Swift, Prince went up later
and played we were home sleeping becauseit's like three in the morning. The

(43:22):
but the the other, the other, the other portrait that I that I
really like, portrait or caricature thatI really liked, and you posted it
after he died was the pee WeeHerman when you or Paul Rubens, but
when you posted that, but likeeven the little blurb after after he died
where you were like, Paul wasgreat. He would send us like holiday

(43:43):
cards over the year. And it'slike that's a part that nobody's gonna be
like, Oh, I gets peeWee's really good about sitting down and send
it out holiday cards right now.He's great. He's great about that.
And also I listened to a few, uh, like it's what do you
call it? Video messages from himwith other friends like Kathy Griffith at the
Griffin. You should check that oneout where he's just so funny. I
think I wanted to wish you ahappy birthday, and you know, I

(44:07):
like you right like you an youlook off and he goes, I would
come over, but I'm very busy. I'll be right there, everybody.
But I trying to be told.I did not draw that caricature. That
was from this caricature that I reallyadmire caricature artists. Oh okay, and
I gave him credit about him.But you know, it's funny when someone
dies, you start seeing all thesecaricatures of them, and some of them

(44:30):
are really good. It makes methink I gotta get out of it.
Like the Robin Williams of caricature artists. But weren't you. Weren't you taking
like classes with like caricature. UhI don't. I don't know if they're
teachers, but like guys that youidolized right in doing that, well,
I grew up. I love SebastianKrueger. He's a great caricature artist.

(44:51):
And then the guy just saw Jawsthe line, I forget his name.
Uh, he's very famous anyway,So yeah, I would. I I
doodle all. I doodled and sketchedall my life and did characters, but
they weren't this intric head and coloredin and so I started looking at Instagram
a different character artists. I'm thinking, Wow, these guys are amazing,
and I see one that I reallylike, and I see that he's he's

(45:13):
offering courses in England. So I'mskyping with him. I take ten classes,
I think for five hundred pounds whateverthey call them money there as he
used, I don't know, butanyway, it was great. It was
like an hour, but it wasit's more about practicing and doing it.
He showed me some of the basictechniques, but he developed It's like stand

(45:36):
up. You start off emulating somebodyright when I started off, it was
like Steve Martin and Andy Kaufman,and it was like I saw a lot
of people doing with the Allen andDavid Letterman, and until you've developed your
own style, and so that's whatI did. I started like doing what
they did a little bit, justto learn how they did it. And
then he started creating my own style. And I still haven't gotten there yet

(45:57):
because I know there's something different Iwant to do. By the way,
I haven't that a character since Ifinished this books because I was so burnt
out. It's been almost a yearnow, and I thought, man,
never again, never again? Isit? Is it weird? Like you
said earlier when when you first leftto go out to Los Angeles, it
was Andy Kaufman, it was SteveMartin. Dana Carvey's calling you, and

(46:22):
like Steve Martin's in the other room. Did you ever in your life when
you got into that old beat upcar and started driving, think that it
would go where it's gone, thatyou would be playing the banjo with Steve
Martin and being great friends with himand be at dedications for all these people,
And like, did you did youeven? Could you even dream it

(46:42):
would have gone that way? Inever could dream about it. You know,
I was drunk number two in RockSam. I didn't believe I was
working on a movie with Steve Martin, you know, and Albert Brooks.
Albert Brooks from all these movies,you know, in a stand up he
was just a real trailblazer. Andnow I'm walking with him at night,
you know, we do a littlewalk. It will be on the phone
for hours talking about medical issues.How is your heartbeat and how what's your

(47:06):
blood pressure? And all. Idon't check mine, you know, what's
happening with that, you know,and I can't believe it. It's like
Albart Brooks. So you still youstill allow yourself to pinch yourself and go
like, oh my god, ohyeah, I'm still you know, I'm
a tenimate. I usually uncomfortable goingup to everybody. I might be a
little I feel like, you knoweverybody. I feel that way now too.

(47:29):
I don't know some of the peoplecoming up now, like Jennifer Lawrence,
those kind of people. But Iremember I was in a little cafe
pizza place in my neighborhood and thisback room I usually sit in, there's
maybe eight to ten tables. It'sa little Italian restaurant. And it's just
me back there with my buddy andwe're eating, and there's another couple over
by the window, maybe two tablesaway from us, and my friend goes,

(47:52):
is it Julia Roberts over there andJulie Andrews, And I look,
I go, yes, it is. It is. It's like I'm a
tourist now and I'm looking and they'retalking and we get up and I'm thinking,
should just say hi in the wayout because maybe they'll recognize me.

(48:13):
It's like I met Bill Clinton once, you know, a couple of years
ago, He's gonna recognize me.I go up to him. Isn't no
idea. It only took me liketwo seconds to realize that, you know.
So on the way out, Igo, I passed them. I
think they're gonna recognize me. Ipassed Julia Roberts and Julian Andrews. They're
in such a heat, you know, a deep conversation, and I couldn't

(48:35):
walk up to him because I don'twant Julia Roberts saying, excuse me,
we're having a conversation here. Youknow, we're having a conversation. I
do this radio station in Austin oncea year, this DJ down there,
and I've been doing it for liketen years. Afterwards, we always go
out for lunch somewhere. And thelast time I was there about a year
ago, we go off for lunchand after the show and I'm sitting there

(48:58):
talking and he goes, you know, I noticed you're not getting recognized as
much as you used to. Isaid, you know what, You're right.
I didn't think about that. You'reright, and I don't mind that,
But is that is that just partof like you can't like you're you're.
You played the banjo, you playedthe guitar, you do artwork,
you are stand up comics. Spanishyou That's what I was gonna say,

(49:21):
Like, you don't let you youtake like zoom classes to learn how to
speak Spanish. Can you just nutsit still? No you can't. No.
I mean I'm sitting still now,but my mouth is flapping away,
you know how Why would so youwere just like, I want to learn
to speak Spanish. Yeah, Iwanted to do it, I'll tell you
when I turned sixty fifty nine now. But when I turned sixty, I

(49:43):
said, I'm gonna start doing thethings that I've always talked about doing never
got around to doing. And thisis it. It's showtime. I mean,
I can hear the clock tickie.So I started taking Spanish twice a
week on Zoom, and I startedlearning how to play the piano. I
started, you know, drawing,sketching and painting and just all these things.

(50:05):
Picking up the banjo again and playingmore of that, and uh,
and I just like to stay busy, and I'm editing the hikes all the
time. And it's really I've noticedthat too. I've noticed that it's hard
for me just to sit still andnot do anything. I've had a book
I wanted to read for about threemonths. I bring it everywhere with me
and and it's all worn out,like I've read it five times, but
I haven't. It's just all weathered, you know, and it's it's Uh.

(50:29):
There's the other thing I want todo is I wanted to start reading
all the classics that I either neverread or couldn't remember that I read like
Sawyer, Yeah, catching the Ryeall that hemyway. So I got this
book called The Sun Is Also Rising. I think that's what it's called.
Sheold me on to see the SunAlso Rises. I think it's called The

(50:51):
Sun Also Rises. And I've readlike the first chapter like ten times because
I keep forgetting. And I openedit up again, I go, Okay,
I don't remember this from last time. So but that's me trying to
slow down a little bit, right, you know. And but I do
meditate, do you really? Yeah? You know what's going for you till
you a minute a day? Butno, it is good. I try

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to do it twice twice a day, twenty minutes and and yeah, and
uh, and I'm working on myposture sadly not joking, Yeah, sadly
not joking. I'm trying to getdown the number of times a p at
night. Wonderful the in stand up, but stand Up you'll never stop doing.
No, I never stopped it.It's what I really all I wanted

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to do. The other acting stuffcame, you know, with weeds and
s and all that came, thatwas just out of nowhere, right,
But the stand up was it?That was all that all that matter's all
that mattered to me, right,just led to a hell of a career.
Yeah, I've had a great careerand uh, and I love doing
it. I'm always trying to tryingto evolve with that too, just like
the painting, I want to comeof. What's next? You know?
What can I do next? Youwrite every day? No? No,

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No? When I write a lotis when I'm hiking, Do you really?
When I'm alone? Right, well, I will like think of so
many things. I don't know whatit is. It's just so creative.
I don't know if it's any endorphinsor the fresh air, but I think
of so many ideas. And alsoI remember when my parents were dying,
I'd be on the trail and It'sgreat because you could really let your emotions
out. And I'd be crying onthe trail thinking about them crying, and
then somebody else would be coming theother way, and all of a sudden

(52:20):
I stopped crying. Hey, howyou doing that? After they leave,
I look back there, Okay,they're gone. Because you don't want to
show your emotions, all right,Go see Kevin Kneel in the Comedy Loft.
Two shows tonight, two shows tomorrownight, and on Sunday, DC

(52:42):
Comedy Loft dot com to get yourkid tickets. Dude, thank you so
much for coming having man, thisis great. You're fantastic. Really appreciate
it. Thank you very much.Thank you,