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Speaker 1 (00:00):
By complete happenstance. I recently became aware of one of
my oldest friend's death from about close to a year ago.
So it makes it sound like before everybody's like, well,
if you said's good friends, there's somebody that he's known
for decades that he was very friendly with. They clearly
didn't talk every day, but somebody that he was friendly
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with that he was good friends with. We grew up
across the street from one another. I used to play
with her and her older brother as kids. Our families
were very close. She'd been my friend for decades. I've
been desperate to learn the circumstances of her death. I
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have googled my brains out. I have followed every lead.
There are no obituaries available anywhere online. There are no
death notices, there are no newspaper articles about her death.
I reached out to her attorney. Okay, why are you
making a face?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I mean that seems like a bit much, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Where he wants to know what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, but it's that it's right, but it's if it's
not made public. There's a reason why it wasn't made public,
probably the wishes of the family. Yeah, but he was
very close with the family. It doesn't matter then then
if you were so close, then maybe you'd know.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Here we go environmental and because they lived near each other.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Is that what he told the lawyer?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yes, the I'll be honest, I don't know. The environmental
thing sounds a little far fetched.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You agree, though, going to the lawyer.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
G I reached out to her attorney, but her attorney
secretary won't put me through to him, citing attorney client confidentiality,
even though she is deceased. And I know that the
attorney withdrew himself from representing her upon her death. How
does he know that?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Because he is an internet sleuth Kristen.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
But if he's no longer involved in with the estate, no, no,
But if you if you have, like if you have
an attorney that represents you in things and then you die,
they don't represent you anymore. I didn't know if they
still because of the matters that have to be settled posthumously.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I mean I forgot that part the air of her
estate will also not return my calls.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What why is this person so hell bent on finding out?
I understand that there is a maybe a natural curiosity.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I would like to know because of the facts. No,
but he's curious.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well that's fine, but if you've hit that many roadblocks,
let it go.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Here we go. The air of her estate will not
return my calls. Kidding. I can't even nail down where
she died so that I can file a Freedom of
Information Act request?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh my god? What is he? The Washington Post? Now?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
What are his plans with this inform?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Why is he so hell bent?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Is he honestly? Is there like a podcast? Is there
something that he needs this for?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I do, Well, let me answer you. I don't have
a claim on her estate. I have no ulterior motive whatsoever.
I just want to know what happened to my old friend. Wow,
I'm out of ideas.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Was this is this person like soliciting advice from like
ask Amy or something like, what what do you think
I should do next? Hellout? Mind your damn business?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Okay, A couple of things, A couple of things. I
get the curiosity, especially when it's such a secret. So
it's making it worse. Yeah, he keeps it's making it
worse to d It's making it worse to him, But.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You understand that it would make it worse for you.
If you were in his.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
If somebody told me, like, who's a friend that I
haven't talked to in a long time? Brody. Yeah, that's
a fact. That's a that's a great answer. That's a
great answer.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I've just said you should probably reach out to him.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Okay, the no, No, I'll use I'll use Brody. I'll
use Brody. Right. If something happened to Brody, I would
be curious as to why he died.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I mean, I have my own suspicion you would find
it wouldn't take you a year to find out that
he died. You would know immediately.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
So that's about e I don't know if you'd know immediately, like.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh, within a day or two?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yes, yeah, I don't know. Within a week, Yes, within
a week.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I would say even a week as a stretch, you'd no,
sooner than that.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
So pick some probably someone else, because it needs to
be someone that you wouldn't find out for twelve months.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
No, no, no, no, they've been trying. They've been trying.
I don't know how how long it took for this
guy to find out.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Oh, I thought I thought it was that she had
been dead a year and then that's when he didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Say, I really I recently became aware. Okay, so about
ten months? Ten months? Did you give age on these people?
An age? I don't have an age? Okay, yeah, I don't.
I don't have an age. It appears like they may
be older, but yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
No, I mean but not old, because got so much
time on their hands.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's either this or class action lawsuits. I spend thirty
minutes a day finding out how she died. Oh you
know what, like somebody from here?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And I mean this seriously, if something, I'm gonna mention
two people from here, right, but if and again, I
wish you know me, I wish no will on ill
will on anything.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's just going to come out the other way. I
can't say that because are you talking about somebody that
you work with that works here now?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Not now? Okay, Hey we're dusting go, we're dusting go.
It's been ten months.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Within a week, you would find out.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
No, But like would I know pretty quickly if something
happened to Buddy Riser.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yes, because he is a prominent public figure.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Okay, can you reduce your prominent Yeah? Yeah, he'd been
on CBS.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So have criminals when they reported on he was a
part of a story, yes, about.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Him turning the whole county.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Into a text center, data center, call center, a call center.
Say he is a criminal, I'm not a good example
to someone who's verified on social media.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Isn't a great example? Blue check Ballard? You would find out?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
It would the trades the he's not in the industry,
but he's like a legend, alum figure. You think by
superlative today, I think you hit that nerve again. Are
too hyperbolic?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
No, but through through mutual friends. I would think you
would find out fairly recently or fairly soon.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'm running out of guesses.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I know.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Isn't John Ballard. Wouldn't you say he's a he's a
radio legend, Joe.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
B If you think Joe Benanai died, I wouldn't know.
In ten months? Can she turn her?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I can't understand you, because that's not sign language.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I don't know. Locker was there with somebody yesterday at
the uh Ohhi announcement. I don't know who it was. Who.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
This is a tea for tob Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Turn Mikay Kristen's.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Missing for a while and nobody said anything.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Chris christ I think I.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Would know well where.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I don't think she understands where's the mindset? What we
were trying to determine.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
What's what? What part?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
We can't find out they died for a year. You
think somebody who works in this suite currently.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yes, no way, yes, if somebody who works her currently died,
even people you don't see that often.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
What about somebody like Wellington?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Everybody?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But is that is that to would close? You know?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, sadly too close. I would be made aware of
it because I would get one hundred texts that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Are like several degrees, there's good news for you. Okay,
well now I can't. But he's just trying to think
of somebody who has history here. I thought, talk to it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Okay, No, it can't be anyone you've worked with. Somebody
is going to contact you and be like, look, he
is a pede killer. It's got to be somebody.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
From person from like high school or something.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Smoking Joe's got to be someone for your past and
not from radio.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Oh yeah, because Lander would tell me that smoking Joe
Pogey died. There's got to be something. He was the
marketing director in Houston.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
It sounds has somebody from high school that they would
not held Kristen's hands up.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yes, didn't we?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Jilly this with your coach who only had one arm.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
His name was Lefty or something. But he's alive though
Coach Nyla's dad, No, he died. We looked him up,
did Fawcett diet it's coach Nyla that died.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Yeah, what if they have a local fan. Well, if
Coach Nyla has local family, they know he's dead.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
The one they know about the army.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Those all those years ago he lost in his left arm.
Now his entire life we know anyway. Anyway, I don't
know who that person.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Is, Okay, not a coach, like a former classmate maybe
who though I don't know. Somebody that maybe you would
see at a reunion if you had gone and haven't
seen them since, and then it takes that long to
filter down to you.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Like we have a good friend. I don't know if
he's died yet or not. I know he's like like
Kirk Klasnik.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, but you called him a good friend, so that
he's not.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
He's not a good friend. He's not a good friend.
But was back in the day. He was friendly. He
was friendlier with Jackie than he was with me and
Jackie's friend group. Well, I don't want to speak ill
of the guy. I mean, he's very ill. He may
be dead already. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
At least you're not flipping the.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Learned it from Kristen.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Okay, we can't come up, but we can't think of anybody,
So then just move forward and pretend that there's a
person in mind.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But I can understand if you were curious and wanting
to know what happened, and and being being intrigued about
what happened, especially if it was somebody that you were
close with, but then and then to be like, what
what what happened?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Okay, there's, of course there would be a natural curiosity,
But at the same point, it's like, Okay, there's a
reason why this was not made public and just respect it.
Move on with your life, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
But part of that moving on may be wanting.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
To because of five G.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
He said there was no ulterior motive.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
No, there's no ulterior motive. There's no claim to the estate.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It sounds weird the admitting that and makes it seem
even worse.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I think it makes it sound better. No, No, it
sounds like no, what are you gonna do? Call it
go you promised me? Or take it back on twenty
five years ago.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's not like he's laying He's not laying claimed anything.
He's just so curious he can't move on.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Can you file for a Freedom of Information Act?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
No, like just just Joe Schmoe off the street can
do that.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I thought you had to be like part of a
news organization or something.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
No, people file FiOS all the time, fois all the time.
Foys they follow him, filed them all the time. Can't
you just can't you? I don't do you file him
at the courthouse?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I don't know where, no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Where does the Washington Post file him? They probably have
AI do it for him. So can you do that?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
It's through agency websites, who through through an agency's website.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So they just need to go to like the police.
Although if there was nothing criminal about it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, any person can follow one. I had no idea,
didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think I knew that. I think I knew.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
That were we going to file one for something? I
feel like it came up and we got some tips
on how to do it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
We were going to hire a private investigator. That's come
up a bunch. I was going to bring a drug
sniffing dog into the office.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, a lot of people took off. What were we
going to file a freedom of Information Act for? We've
definitely made that threat. So we were trying to worry
the person whose information we were looking to obtain.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Was it for somebody.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Here there was a connection to hear I think? Or
was it radio or it's not like I'm trying to
give you hints. I don't remember. Oh, maybe it was radio,
Maybe it was the industry. Maybe it was Ballard and
his death.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Nagy's age. Where am I going by?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Matthew writes, My mom told me my great uncle died,
and it was a year until I found out she
told me the one.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Maybe that's why he wants to know the one I
actually really liked died. Well, sorry, Matthew, sad story. Where
am I going mine? One? Hi? Joie in the morning.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Hi, I had a really mortifying story about how I
found out my ex roommate died.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Your ex roommate from college?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
No, my ex roommate, Well, we just lived together for
a while. We went to high school together, and I
dated her brother and everything like that. And we lived
together for.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
A while and she was great, and then I moved
out and went somewhere else. And then I ran into
her brother at a club one night and I.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Was like, Hey, how's your sister doing? And his face
went totally white, and his best friend just looked at
me and says, you don't know?
Speaker 7 (14:58):
And I said no.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
He said, yeah, she uh stabbed to death on Christmas
Eve last year.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Oh my god, Yeah that was for you.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Diane was mortified. I was so mortified. I mean I
went to the bathroom and got sick.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Did you really.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yes? Well, I mean I had no I had no
idea that she had been murdered.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
No, but that's what I mean, Like, you can't feel
bad about that, Like you didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Anybody would feel bad. But it's not like you weren't
doing anything intense.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
You have to.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You have to, you have to. I don't know if
apologizes the right word, but it's.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Like you you I did I did, but.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Right, But you didn't do anything wrong. You were I
mean you were genuinely asking. You had no idea, I'm
sure I've done that.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
I was like, hey, has a sister doing everything?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Great? Everything?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
And he just his face was completely white, and I'm like,
oh my god.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But he told you what happened. Yeah, what if he
would have said, I can't talk about it? He did?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Well, actually he didn't. He kind of just turned and
walked away. And his best friend came up to me
and told me.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Did you end up seeing him anymore that night? Well?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I went to apologize to him and then I left.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Just still sounds like she's broken up about what went down.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
When you went, when you went to a when you
went to apologize to him, what like, what did he do?
Did he like just ignore you?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
No, he said it's okay. You didn't know.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Exactly, that's what I mean. Did he ask why your
breat smelled like moment and cigarettes?
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Absolutely, honey, all.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Right, very good, very good, Thank you, ma'am, thank you,
thank you. I guess they're I'm sorry. Oh go ahead, No,
I was gonna say, I guess. There is a school
of thought that would say, even it's not that important
that you know.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
What if and this comes from Instagram, what if this
friend old friend fears they're also witness to what this
person's being protected in the program from.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Okay, no, they are not in the Witness Protection program.
Everybody goes with that. Oh, they can't find it. It's
probably in the Witness Protection program and an ulterior motive, Tyler,
they're not in the witness Protection program. Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Then also from Instagram, would you know if that audiobook
voice actor died.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Again? That's another former program director and he has a name.
You know what, that's a good question. How long would
it take for us to find out about Bevilaqua.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I feel like it wouldn't be as immediate, but you'd
still find out pretty cool quickly.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
But who's going to report it?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Well, if he goes in a stabbing in the news,
it's not well.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And by the way, we don't know how this person went.
It sounds like they've googled that name a lot, so
you think they just But that's the whole thing. He
wants to know how.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I'm aware he contacted the lawyer, secretary and the what
you say, the executor.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
The executor, the heir, the executor to the will can't
tell you.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh my god, I'd be so because you know that's
going to most likely be children. I'd be furious with
this person. Why leave us alone?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I'm just I mean you're you're, you're, you're. Your parent
was a very good friend of mine back in the day,
and I got some horrible news what happened.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But especially if it's not an oversight and it's actually
by design.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Just stop so you think at the last moment the
friend went and whatever you do, don't tell him.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
No, some people are very particular about privacy, especially something
like that.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, you can't tell whoever you want. No, I'm saying
when I go, oh, oh, oh, where am I going?
Line three? Hi Ellie in the morning? Yeah, Hi, who's this? Hello?
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You know? Damn? Did you say thank you? Did I
say what?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
When you talked about their history together?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yes? Were they ever an item? Did you say that?
Doesn't say that, just says that.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
They grew up together, friends, their families were friends, he
was friends ends with the person's older siblings.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So no, it doesn't say anything about being intimate or anything, okay,
or being in a relation to.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Other I'm seeing a couple of people suggest that and
maybe there's children that aren't between them. No, no, no, no, okay.
Then witness protection program, you are shooting down a lot
of the theories.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I'm not going to buy witness protection but.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You've shot down everything else. Ex lovers.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
He just did as well, maybe they got shot down.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I really just think this is the nosiest of nosy people.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But it's beyond. It's harassment. Yeah, two phone calls is
not called the lawyer. Well, they wouldn't put the lawyer through.
I kept getting the run around exactly line five. I
gotta go quit. Kristen hi elliot in the morning.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Hi is this mate?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
What's going on dude?
Speaker 8 (21:08):
Yeah? So along that story, I had an old friend
from track. We had ran three almost four years together,
and I was just deciding to look him up one
day and realize he'd been dead for about five years.
Oh yeah, And this was still about a decade ago,
and there was almost zero information online from friends. We
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still don't really know exactly what happened. He ended up
being a doctor for Army reed and that was it.
But I'm with them, like, you just have to kind
of stop checking. The family doesn't want people to know
for some reason.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Hey, do you want to should we file a Freedom
of Information Act request? At this point?
Speaker 8 (21:53):
I mean, you just got to respect his death.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, I know, but aren't you curious?
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Well?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Absolutely, But what am I going to do. I don't know.
You can't be like this guy. Yeah, he's overstepping.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
He's moved on. He's not like obsessing about it.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Doesn't sound like he's moved on. He just called me,
well no.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
But he's now. Are you going to think about their
weeks on end me? No?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yem, yeah no. Is this going to bother you think
near a five G tower?
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Oh no, no, I mean absolutely he moved on.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah. We all have we all have you have a