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October 7, 2025 22 mins
Your grandmama never said packing lines is sin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, the biggest users of cocaine is right now,
or the one of the biggest users of cocaine is
who seventies, eighties and nineties out.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I swear to God, I swear to God.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
One of the largest populations of cocaine usage in the
United States right now, our seventies, eighties and nineties.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Why is that crazy?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
We've certainly talked about senior citizens maybe smoking pots. Yeah, Pats,
did I say that oddly.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
A little bit?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
But that's okay, it's just because I'm uncomfortable. Second, and
then you make fun of me when I say marijuana
the jane. And we've heard of maybe like micro dosing.
That's on that right, some other stuff, but.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Cocaine usage, cocaine usage. Cocaine usage amongst those in their
seventies eight in nineties is four and a half times
higher than it was just a decade ago. Doctors are
worried that some elderly may be returning to the habit
from their younger days without realizing age related health conditions

(01:17):
and prescribe medications can make the drug more dangerous, and
on and on and on. If I walked into an
old folks home right now, is it is it full
of cocaine?

Speaker 4 (01:28):
I'm am shocked still by that declaration.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Why is it so shocking? Why is that?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I mean when you said, like going back to their
old habits? Right, so these are first a users.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well that I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Listen, if you're new, if you're one of the people
in the old Folks Home and like all your friends
are doing blow, why wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
You How do you even get cocaine? I'm asking for
any age. I realized that question sounded silly, but honestly.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
You would you find somebody dealer? Yeah, you find a dealer.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
No, But I'm talking more about like for the elderly,
you find a dealer at ninety wouldn't someone think it's
a setup?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
The No?

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I mean you probably you're you're there going to one
of the younger employees at their long term facility.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
No, but that's that's a fair question because my answer
to that is their kids get it for them.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Now, but that may be unfair because like, for example,
for example, I don't know if your mom's ever done cocaine.
But now let's pretend it's ten years forward, right, and
she's in her eighties, yes, and she's like Hey, you.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Know what I really want? Will you go get me
some cocaine? You number one?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Whether you could find it or not, your answer would
be no, correct, right.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
So maybe it's not their kids. I don't know, at ninety, like.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
A younger person at their facility, the younger seventy.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Maybe not staff, there's nobody on the staff who's like
the dealer.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Or maybe maybe it is. Hey, list.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Traffic director was everyone's dealer, So maybe it is. Maybe
there's somebody on staff who's dealing.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Are these people are they snorting at like? How do
you do cocaine?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Say again, yeah, you mixed.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
In like with your like with their apple sauce or juice.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh, they're probably just doing a little bump and that's it. Wow,
now with my hand shaken all over the.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Place, damn it.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, they're probably just doing a little bump from time
to time.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I see it more like ovaltine, the like they're making.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know what, Maybe I have no idea. I have
no clue.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I would just think I would just think they're doing
a little bump and they're done.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Jesus couldn't like shock their system so much in one
time that it's.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Also couldn't make them the happiest.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
People in the world. I don't know, Diane Kennet. They
are zooming.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm eighty years old to the dining hall, I'm living
in this, I'm living in an old folks home. I'm
doing blow. That's the whole concept is so weird. Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Number one, Number one, if we walked into any old
folks home, is it is it?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Is it a mound of cocaine.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Specifically cocaine, not just other drugs. You're talking about coke.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
There is a correct Dan I'm trying it says right
here there is a cocaine crisis among the elderly.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
So that's number one. Number two.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Is there anybody listening who knows that their parent or
grandparent in their seventies, eighties, or nineties is, if not
regularly doing it, is recreationally doing doing cocaine.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I guess that's unfair. We immediately jumped to a nursing
home instead of just imagining these people aging.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
In their own houses. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I just told you about our friend's husband eighty three. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, he's probably got somebody in the neighborhood who comes by.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
No gives them some cocaine. It was like, uh, call
it a day.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
The latter and the other really good friends from that
play group in Chicago was the house that my mom
was at when they had their drug dealer come over.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Oh there you go.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
That was just for put say it better.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I just imagined a bunch of like seventy five and
eighty five year olds, like when you see him, they're
just sitting there just like rubbing their gums.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Where am I going?

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Kristen line one, all right, so parent a grandparents is
knee deep into the cocaine culture or every like old
folks home is just a mound of blow.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
In our experience, I have not seen that the Okay,
that's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
And I do like where they go, like they're resorting
back to like their old days. There's part of me
that also loves the idea of somebody who's eighty years
old and was like, you know what, I'm gonna live, man,
Let's get some cocaine over here here.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
And this may be a dumb question, but if I
ask enough dumb questions, not a single one will stand
out right? What is cocaine from? Say again, yeah, I
understand that it's it's crushed up something.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Isn't it from the cocoa plant?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
I think so. Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, that
was that Why it's called cocaine? Is that?

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Or it's either from that or from Brett. That was
the traffic guy. Everybody's dealer. Hi, Elliott in the.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Morning, ellieh Tyler, Diane, let's talk.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Hey, what's going on, dude? Not much.

Speaker 7 (07:11):
All I gotta say is this is going to up
the visiting log get all the nursing hands. I'm going
to visit my grandparents today. Now maybe that's maybe they're
lonely and they just want company and they giving us
a reason to come visit.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Hey, what is the How old are your grandparents?

Speaker 7 (07:31):
I've got one left and she's ninety.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
If you had to guess, is granny doing coke?

Speaker 7 (07:40):
Well, she's been acting a little awfully at least, and
maybe maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
I want to talk to a little more, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
That's what I'm saying. Like if I had this knowledge
of the last time I talked to her, I would
be like, Hey, granted you got a little.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
There you go, all right, very good, thank you, sir,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Now somebody's wondering if this image of lines and mirrors
is incorrect, because I guess you can have the I'm
now hearing the coca plant. You can have that as
a TV. Yes, oh you've done that.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
No no, no, no, no, no no, but yes you can.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
You can go that round.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
So is that maybe doing it?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
No? No, but the days of lines and mirrors are over.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's an itty bitty little like a lot of people
will just take like an itty bitty little Remember the guy, actually,
I need to thank him, the guy who made our
rings out of like those little spoons.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, just put a little on that and you're good
to go. A little bump bump.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
And what why what are you thinking him for?

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Oh? He just sent a package of like like they
made money clips and stuff out of those. I by
the way, we'll be taking some of those spoons to
some old folks homes later today and selling them on
the side.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Have you had any money clip in the past?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
But I need one. I need one.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
It sounds like something a dealer would have. Did Brett
have one?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Bred had a lot of cash? The What was I
going to say? What was I going to say?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Is it something about oh yeah, no, so yes, you
can make tea out of it.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yes, I didn't know that. Yeah, but I didn't know
that the Yeah, of course if you take the plants. Sure,
I don't know where.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I honestly, it would be a thousand times easier for
me to find a brick of cocaine than to find
a plant.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
At that point, Are you talking about like South America?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
No, I'm talking about this dish, the stuff that they get, No,
not the things that.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Damn Is this something that can be grown locally that
I don't have no idea. This is a hydroponic.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
If I were in the market for cocaine, I'm not
going to the plant like I guess like people grow
their own weed. If I'm in the market for cocaine,
that's someone else's job. Hi, Elliott the morning?

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Is this man?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (10:10):
Hi? Who's this?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Hi?

Speaker 5 (10:13):
This is Nick in Winchester.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, sir, so I was.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
I think you guys got the demographic wrong. I don't
think these people are in like the old folks home,
just just doing rails and he's going crazy. I for one,
have a first hand experience with the people that are
doing this.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
There which language language language language language? Please?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Sorry, please, I know we're talking drugs.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
But we I've got a really personal friend who goes
by Kevisaurus who's almost ninety years old, and he he'll
do He'll do just about anything. He put rout us
as a perfectly normal everyday life, has grandchildren, like daughters,
like major in some college and everything, perfectly normal life,

(10:58):
but goes to music all summer long. We'll do molly,
we'll do coke, We'll do we'll smoke weed everything.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
And is it only at the festivals though.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
I mean I don't know what he does at home,
because I've never like I've never gone out to where
he lives and like hung out with him or anything.
But like, really, his whole life is you know, his
whole life is festivals. I mean he was at you know,
he was the original Woodstock and stuff like that that
love it love it. It's like one person out of
a bunch.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Of people that do it love it.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
A lot of the people that go to those music
festival now are really they're older.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
There are a lot of older people love that, all right.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
And I was dabbling in my entrepreneurialship. I mean a
lot of the people that were buying it were How.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Did you gotta stop cussing.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
From Brian. I believe it. Every time I'm out at
the bar, sixty sixty year olds come up to us
and start small talk just to ask us. We say
they know, but then inquire as to why they're looking
for it, and they always say they just want to
party with the younger girls.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Hill morning, How the morning is there?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Did we just witness a car accident?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Were you doing that trick where you tried to pull
the tablecloth?

Speaker 6 (12:27):
It depends that you're so hard to me?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, what's going on behind you? It is so goddamn loud.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm I'm also an ex
coke head, so I'm I'm unfortunately doing nasty construction work
right now, gotcha?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Gotcha? Anyway, what can I do for you?

Speaker 8 (12:44):
I just want to let you know that it is
enough tick with older people doing cocaine. I have several
friends that I have done cocaine with their grand It's
always their grandmothers, their granddads. They stopped doing it years ago.
It's always the grandmothers.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
So wait, So I have several.

Speaker 8 (13:00):
Friends I I still coach to on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Are you serious?

Speaker 5 (13:07):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (13:07):
Yeah, big high and they're the best clients. Hell, they're
not gonna rob you.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Saying, hey, let me ask you this, the the grandparents
that you're selling to.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Are they how are they?

Speaker 1 (13:19):
How are they? How are they using? Like did they
are they just taking little bumps?

Speaker 8 (13:25):
Well? Two of them smoke it?

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (13:31):
One of them?

Speaker 8 (13:32):
Uh she snorts it. Well if they only do it
on occasions, they do it responsibly.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, right, yeah's smoking it. That's robber. So wait are
they it's medicinal. It's medicinal, of course, of course.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
So wait when you say they're when you when you
say they're smoking it, what are they just lacing joints
with them?

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (13:53):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no, they're taking blinkers. Dude,
they're cant off and they smoke it. Man, dude, old people,
let me tell you, God, I'm telling you you couldn't
be more on point. Old people are getting backed out there,

(14:14):
they're getting back out there, and honestly, what is the
best time to have a debilitating drug addiction? And and
everybody's already expecting you to die any time.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
There you go, all right, very good, thank you sir,
Thank you. By the way, you could have gotten cocaine right.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Then, yeah, because he said he was dealing but no
longer doing.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Correct former addict right, former right, so now just dealing.
And I know people would be like whatever, Now I'm
not in charge of your grandparents.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
He did point to how everyone's expecting you to die.
But another message came in that said people also maybe
using this for or the three things were, uh, headaches,
back pain, and ringing in the ears.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I believe all of that.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
So again we have heard some stories of those just
looking to party with the younger girls.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, I would bet some use it for like serious
pain management and where a.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Couple of people have said that it is sometimes used
as an anesthetic for surgeries. Where is that? Like numbing?
Like is that in South America? Like the like the
first General of Columbia get.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
My knee replaced for the third time. I don't need anesthesia.
I just borrow your bathroom at a spoon for a second.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I can't believe. I can't believe they're cooking it.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Jesus now right.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Not hi, Elliot in the morning, I got you. Who
is this?

Speaker 6 (15:58):
This is Chris from Colombia, Maryland or the country.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Maryland, Yes, ma'am. What can I do for you.

Speaker 9 (16:10):
My grandfather is a cruise goer, and just recently we
were on his porch and his neighbor was smoking a
joint and we smelled it, and my husband was making
a little bit of joke asking him if he wanted it,
and he goes, no, that's not the kind I prefer.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
And I'm like, Grandpa, what.

Speaker 9 (16:28):
And he points to his nose and he goes, I
have a different plug.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
And he's like, Grandpa, how about that?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
My god, Oh my god. And that's how you found
out how old is your grandfather?

Speaker 10 (16:44):
Two?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yes, oh my god.

Speaker 9 (16:50):
Well when and he goes, well, you know those cruises
I go.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
On, they have a fortrink for a day.

Speaker 9 (16:56):
And I'm like, okay, well the only way I can
stay awake and enjoy it, I'm you know, a little help.
Oh my god, every time you're doing that, just grandma.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
No, she goes, He goes, yeah, where do you think
I found the blood?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Oh wow?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
So your grandparents are doing cocaine on cruises. Oh my god,
I love it. I love it all right, very good,
very good, thank you. I shouldn't be so excited about
them doing it.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
From Instagram, my Mom's like sixty eight. I guess she's
just a young and in this cocaine, she is really
good at it.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
My God, Hi Elliot in the morning.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
Hi is this me?

Speaker 7 (17:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Who's this?

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Hi?

Speaker 5 (17:39):
This is Shauna?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yes, Shawna, What could I do for you?

Speaker 6 (17:43):
So my dad is constantly trying to get my brother
in law to buy him cocaine. So my dad is
seventy two and has done coke many times with what
is now my brother in law. But yeah, he's constantly
pushing him like, hey, can you just go get me?
Go get me some coke? And my sister has has

(18:08):
ended it. She said you were not allowed to buy
my dad cocaine anymore.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I was just gonna say, like, is the rest of
the family cool with the brother in law being like
the dealer for gramps.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
So it's funny because they lived with my dad and
before my sister and brother in law got married, my
dad and my brother in law shared an apartment in Jacksonville, Florida.
And that's how that whole. They were always doing coke together.
But then once my sister started dating him and got engaged,

(18:41):
he's like, no more cocaine for my dad.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Wow? How about it? About that. Now wait a minute,
now he's not Is he still down in Jacksonville.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
They're a little further south, so they're in near Cape Canapple.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Gotcha, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh that's pretty close to Bevilaqua passing that on.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
He very good, very good, thank you. How about that?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Gotta stop buying dad coke?

Speaker 1 (19:07):
I told you it is they said, four and a
half times is what it's grown for the older population.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
We've certainly heard enough to back up your klan for real.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Seventies, eighties, and nineties, those are your coke heads.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Hi, Elliot at the morning?

Speaker 3 (19:24):
That term what it's coke head's the meaning it's derogatory.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
It is, No, you're right, but I mean it in
a fun way.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Like to have a coke user.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Hi, Jelly at the morning.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Is this me?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Who's as.

Speaker 10 (19:42):
Hi?

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Savannah?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yes, Savannah? What can I do for you? So?

Speaker 4 (19:47):
I'm calling about my dad. He is seventy two years old.
He is a retired musician, and he and his friends
are wilding.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Out all the time, all the time.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
I mean, my two sisters and I had to sit
down and have a talk with him about his gummy
uses and the fact that it was like out of control.
He wants to buy gummies and stuff for us and
our husbands and everybody.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
All the time.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
He is living his best retired life. And I emailed
Tyler a couple of pictures of him, just so that
you could get kind of a clear understanding of what
this guy is like.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Is it him?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Is it him in the process of doing cocaine? No?

Speaker 4 (20:33):
No, it's not in the process of that. But I
mean he's lived. His stories and the life that he's
lived are just absolutely crazy. He toured, he was out
west for a long time, like touring in the seventies
and eighties, and I hear stories from him and my
mother constantly about how wild it was.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Now. In one picture he's playing his guitar and he's
got like a little fedoron. The other picture is he's
wearing an Uncle Sam one and he has a hat on.
I believe he stores the cocaine under his hats.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Wouldn't surprise me a little bit. There's there are some
pictures of them rolling out of that specific van, and
there's smoke everywhere.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
It's very teaching tong.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Love it, love it great reference, by the way, Thank you, ma'am,
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Let me grab one more Hi Ellie in the morning.
That yeah, Hi, who's this.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Sir?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah? I got you? What's your name?

Speaker 10 (21:38):
Well, I want, I want to say my name. All
want my brothers, and then I think I'm a nark.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Okay, all right, but go ahead.

Speaker 10 (21:49):
I'm seventy two myself. I don't mess around with him.
I'm a gum adger on myself. But my brothers, he's
seventy seventy seven. Him and all his friends are around
seventy seven, eight Friday. They need no this house, all
of them bring. Don't know where they did it from.
They on the counter and they got one room. You
got to bring your own store.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
That's old school. That's old school.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Good for you, Good for you, all right, my friend,
I appreciate it, Thank you, sir,
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