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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know the biggest users of cocaine is right now,
or the one of the biggest users of cocaine is
who seventies, eighties and nineties.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I swear to God, I swear to God.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
One of the largest populations of cocaine usage in the
United States right now, our seventies, eighties and nineties.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Why is that crazy?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
We've certainly talked about senior citizens maybe smoking pots. Yeah, Pats,
did I say.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That oddly a little bit? But that's okay.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's just because I'm uncomfortable saying and then you make
fun of me when I say marijuana the jane. And
we've heard of maybe like micro dosing, that's on that
some other stuff, but.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Cocaine usage, cocaine usage.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Cocaine usage amongst those in their seventies, eighties, nineties is
four and a half times higher.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Than it was just a decade ago.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Doctors are worried that some elderly may be returning to
the habit from their younger days without realizing age related
health conditions and prescribe medications can make the drug more dangerous,
and on and on and on. If I walked into
an old folks home right now, is it is it
full of cocaine?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I'm am shocked still by that declaration.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Why is it so shocking? Why is that?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I mean when you said like going back to their
old habits?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Right, so these are first some users, well at that
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Listen, if you're new, if you're one of the people
in the old Folks Home and like all your friends
are doing blow, why wouldn't you How.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Do you even get cocaine? I'm asking for any age.
I realized that question sounded silly, but honestly.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You would you find somebody dealer? Yeah, you find a dealer.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
No, But I'm talking more about like for the elderly,
you find a dealer at ninety wouldn't someone think it's
a setup?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
The No?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I mean you probably you're you're there going to one
of the younger employees at their long term facility.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
No, but that's that's a fair question because my answer
to that is their kids get it for them.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Now, but that may be unfair because like, for example,
for example, I don't know if your mom's ever done cocaine.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But now let's.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Pretend it's ten years forward, right, and she's in her eighties, yes,
and she's like Hey, you know what I really want?
Will you go get me some cocaine?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You number one?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Whether you could find it or not, your answer would
be no, correct, right. So maybe it's not their kids.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I don't know, at ninety, like a younger person at
their facility.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
The younger seventy h Maybe not staff, there's nobody on
the staff who's like the dealer.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Or maybe maybe it is. Hey, listen, ze.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Traffic director was everyone's dealer, So maybe it is. Maybe
there's somebody on staff who's dealing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Are these people are they snorting at like how do
you do cocaine?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Say again, yeah, you mixed in like with your like
their apple sauce or juice.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, they're probably just doing a little bump and that's it.
Wow now with my hand shaken all over the place,
damn it. Yeah, they're probably just doing a little bump
from time to time.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I see it more like ovaltine, the like they're making.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know what, Maybe I have no idea. I have
no clue.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I would just think I would just think they're doing
a little bump and they're done.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Jesus couldn't like shock their system so much in one
time that It's.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Also couldn't make it, couldn't make them the happiest people
in the world.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I don't know, Diane Kennet.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
They are zooming. I'm eighty years old.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
To the dining hall, I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Living in this, I'm living in an old folks home.
I'm doing blow.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
That's the whole concept is so weird.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Okay. Number one.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Number one, if we walked into any old folks home,
is it is it?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Is it a mound of cocaine?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Specifically cocaine, not just other drugs. You're talking about coke.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
There is a correct Dan I'm trying it says right
here there is a cocaine crisis among the elderly.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So that's number one. Number two.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Is there anybody listening who knows that their parent or
grandparent in their seventies, eighties, or nineties is, if not
regularly doing it, is recreationally doing doing cocaine.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I guess that's unfair. We immediately jumped to a nursing
home instead of just imagining these people aging in their
own houses.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I just told you about our friend's husband eighty three.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, yeah, he's probably got somebody in the neighborhood who
comes by.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No gives them some cocaine. It was like, uh, call
it a day.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
The later and the other really good friends from that
play group in Chicago was the house that my mom
was at when they had their drug dealer come over.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That was just for put it better.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
We I just imagined a bunch of like seventy five
and eighty five year olds, like when you see him,
they're just sitting there.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Just like rubbing their dumbs. Where am I going?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Kristen line one, all right, so parent a grandparents is
knee deep into the cocaine culture or every like old
folks home is just a mound of blow.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
In our experience, I have not seen that the Okay,
that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And I do like where they go, like they're resorting
back to like their old days. There's part of me
that also loves the idea of somebody who's eighty years
old and was like, you know what, I'm gonna live, man,
Let's get some cocaine over here?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
What oven here?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And this may be a dumb question, but if I
ask enough dumb questions, not a single one will stand
out right? What is cocaine from Soy again?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I understand that it's it's crushed up something.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It from the cocoa plant.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I think so, Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, that
was that why it's called cocaine.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Is that or it's either from that or from Brett.
That was the traffic guy. Everybody's dealer.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Hi, Elliott in the morning, Ellieah Tyler, Diane, let's talk.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Hey, what's going on dude?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Not much.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
All I gotta say is this is going to up
the visiting log at all the nursing hands. I'm going
to visit my grandparents today. Now maybe that's maybe they're
lonely and they just want company and the giving us
a reason to come visit.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Hey, what is the how old are your grandparents?
Speaker 6 (07:31):
I've got one left and she's ninety.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
If you had to guess, is granny doing coke?
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Well she's been acting a little awfully at least, and
maybe maybe.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
I got to talk to a little more, you know
what I'm saying. That's what I'm.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Saying, Like if I had this knowledge the last time
I talked to her, I would be like, hey, granted you
got a.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Little there you go, all right? Very good, Thank you, sir,
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Now, somebody's wondering if this image of lines and mirrors
is incorrect, because I guess you can have the I'm
now hearing the coca plant. You can have that as
a TV. Yes, oh you've done that.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
No no, no, no, no, no no, but yes you can.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You can go that round.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So is that ELI maybe doing it?
Speaker 6 (08:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
No, But the days of lines and mirrors are over.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's an itty bitty little like a lot of people
will just take like an itty bitty little Remember the guy, actually,
I need to thank him, the guy who made our
rings out of like those little spoons.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, just put a little on that and you're good
to go. A little bump bump.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
And why what are you thinking him for?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Oh? He just sent a package of like like they
made money clips and stuff out of those. I by
the way, we'll be taking some of those spoons to
some old folks homes later today and selling them on
the side.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Have you had any money clip in the past?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But I need one. I need one.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
It sounds like something a dealer would have. Did Brett
have one?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Bred had a lot of cash? The What was I
going to say? What was I going to say? Is
it something oh yeah, no, so, yes, you can make
tea out of it.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yes, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, but I didn't know that the Yeah, of course
if you take the plants.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Sure, I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I honestly, it would be a thousand times easier for
me to find a brick of cocaine than to find
a plant.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
At that point, aren't you talking about like South America?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, I'm talking about this the stuff that they get, no,
not the things that.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Damn is this something that can be grown locally that
I don't have no idea. This is a hydroponic.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
If I were in the market for cocaine, I'm not
going to the plant like I guess like people grow
their own weed. If I'm in the market for cocaine,
that's someone else's job.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Hi, Elliott the morning? Is this man?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Yeah? Hi?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Who's this?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (10:13):
This is Nick in Winchester.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, sir, so I was.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I think you guys got the demographic wrong. I don't
think these people are in like the old folks home,
just just doing rails and he's going crazy. I for one,
have a first hand experience with the people that are
doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
There.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Language language, language, language, language, please sorry, please, I know
we're talking drugs.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
But we I've got a really personal friend who goes
by Kevisaurus who's almost ninety years old, and he he'll
do He'll do just about anything.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He's put brought up.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
As a perfectly normal, everyday life, has grandchildren, like daughters,
like major in some college and everything, perfectly normal life,
but goes to music all summer long. We'll do molly,
we'll do coke, We'll do we'll smoke weed everything.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And is it only at the festivals though, I.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Mean, I don't know what he does at home because
I've never like I've never gone out to where he
lives and like hung out with him or anything. But like, really,
his whole life is you know, his whole life is festivals.
I mean he was at you know, he was the
original Woodstock and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Like that that love it. Love It's like.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
One person out of a bunch of people that do
it love it. A lot of the people that go
to those music festival now are really they're older.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
There are a lot of older people love that, all right.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
And I was dabbling in my entrepreneurialship. I mean a
lot of the people that were buying it were how
did you.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Gotta stop cussing.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
From Brian. I believe it. Every time I'm out at
the bar, sixty sixty year olds come up to us
and start small talk just to ask us. We say
they know, but then inquire as to why they're looking
for it, and they always say they just want to
party with the younger girls.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Hi yelling, how hardy is there?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Did we just witness a car accident? Were you doing
that trick where you tried to pull the tablecloth?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
It depends so hard to me?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, what's going on behind you? It is so goddamn loud.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm I'm also an ex
coq head, so I'm I'm unfortunately doing nasty construction work
right now.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Gotcha? Gotcha? Anyway, what can I do for you?
Speaker 8 (12:44):
I just want to let you know that it is
enough tick with older people doing cocaine. I have several
friends that I have done cocaine with their grand It's
always their grandmothers, their granddads. They stopped doing it years ago.
It's always the grandmothers. So wait, I have several friends
I I still coach to on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (13:07):
Yeah, big tim and they're the best flying Hell, they're
not gonna rob you.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Hey, let me ask you this. The the grandparents that
you're selling to. Are they how are they?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
How are they? How are they using?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Did they? Are they just taking little bumps?
Speaker 8 (13:25):
Well? Two of them smoking up?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
One of them?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (13:32):
She snorts it. Well if they only do it on occasion,
they do it responsibly.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, right, yeah, smoking it, that's rob So wait are.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
They it's medicinal.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's medicinal, of course, of course.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So wait when you say there's when you when you
say they're smoking it? What are they just lacing joints
with them? Oh?
Speaker 8 (13:53):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no, they're taking blinkers. Dude,
they're can hit off and they smoke it. Man, dude,
old people, let me tell you. God, I'm telling you
you couldn't be more on point. Old people are getting
backed out there, they're getting back out there, and honestly,
(14:15):
what is the best time to have a debiliitating drug addiction?
And everybody's already expecting you to die any time?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
There you go, all right, very good, thank you sir,
Thank you. By the way, you could have gotten cocaine
right then.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, because he said he was dealing but no longer doing.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Correct former addict right, former, right, so now just dealing,
And I know people would be like whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Now I'm not in.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Charge of your grandparents.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
He did point to how everyone's expecting you to die.
But another message came in that said people also may
be using this for or the three things were headaches,
back pain, and ringing in the ears.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I believe all of that.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
So again we have heard some stories of those just
looking to party with the younger girls.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, I would bet some use it for like serious
pain management and where a.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Couple of people have said that it is sometimes used
as an anesthetic for surgeries. Where is that?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Like numbing?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Like is that in South America?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Like the the first General of Columbia.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Get my knee replaced for the third time. I don't
need anesthesia. I just borrow your bathroom in a spoon
for a second.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I can't believe. I can't believe they're cooking it Jesus
now right, not hi, Elliot in the morning, I got you.
Who is this?
Speaker 9 (15:58):
This is Chris from Columbia, Maryland.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Or the country.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
Maryland.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yes, ma'am, what can I do for you?
Speaker 9 (16:10):
My grandfather is a cruise goer, and just recently we
were on his porch and his neighbor was smoking a
joint and we smelled it, and my husband was making
a little bit of joke asking him if he wanted it,
and he goes.
Speaker 10 (16:23):
No, that's not the kind I prefer. And I'm like, Grandpa,
what and.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
He points to his nose and he goes, I have
a different plug.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
And he's like, Grandpa, how about that?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh my god, oh my god. And that's how you
found out how old is your grandfather?
Speaker 9 (16:44):
Two?
Speaker 10 (16:48):
Yes, oh my god.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
Well when and he goes, well, you know those cruises
I go on.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
They have a fortrink free a day. And I'm like, okay, well,
the only way i can stay awake and enjoy.
Speaker 10 (16:59):
It, I'm is, you know, a little help?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Oh my god, every time.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
You're doing that, just grandma.
Speaker 10 (17:07):
Now she goes, He goes, yeah, where do you think
I found the flood?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Oh wow, So your grandparents are doing cocaine on cruises.
Oh my god, I love it. I love it all right,
Very good, very good, thank you. I shouldn't be so
excited about them doing it.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
From Instagram, my mom's like sixty eight. I guess she's
just a young and in this cocaine, but she is
really good at it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
My god, Hi, Ellie in the morning.
Speaker 10 (17:36):
Hi is this me?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Who's this? Hi?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
This is Shawna.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yes, Shawna. What can I do for you?
Speaker 10 (17:43):
So my dad is constantly trying to get my brother
in law to buy him cocaine. So my dad is
seventy two and has done coke many times with what
is now my brother in law. But yeah, he's constantly
pushing him like, hey, can you just go get me?
Go get me some coke? And my sister has has
(18:08):
ended it. She said you were not allowed to buy
my dad cocaine anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I was just gonna say, like, is the rest of
the family cool with the brother in law being like
the dealer for gramps?
Speaker 10 (18:19):
So it's funny because they lived with my dad, and
before my sister and brother in law got married, my
dad and my brother in law shared an apartment in Jacksonville, Florida,
And that's how that whole. They were always doing coke together.
But then once my sister started dating him and got engaged,
(18:41):
she's like, no more cocaine for my dad.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Wow, how about it? How about that?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Now?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
A minute now he's not Is he still down in Jacksonville.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
They're a little further south, so they're in near Cape Canapple, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Gotcha?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh, that's pretty close to Bevilaqua. Passing that on?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
All right? He very good, very good, Thank you. How
about that?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Gotta stop buying dad coke?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I told you it is they said, four and a
half times is what it's grown for the older population.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
We've certainly heard enough to back up your klan for real.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Seventies, eighties, and nineties, those are your coke heads.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Hi Elliot at the morning.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
That term what it's coke head's the meaning it's derogatory.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
It is, No, you're right, but I mean it in
a fun way, like to have a coke user.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Hi Elliot at the morning.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Is this me?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Who's this?
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Hi?
Speaker 9 (19:43):
Savannah?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yes, Savannah? What can I do for you? So?
Speaker 9 (19:47):
I'm calling about my dad. He is seventy two years old.
He is a retired musician, and he and his friends are.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
Wilding out all the time, all the time.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
I mean, my two sisters and I had to sit
down and have a talk with him about his gummy
uses and the fact that it was like out of control.
He wants to buy gummies and stuff for us and
our husbands and everybody.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
All the time.
Speaker 9 (20:18):
He is living his best retired life. And I emailed
Tyler a couple of pictures of him, just so that
you could get kind of a clear understanding of what
this guy is like.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Is it him? Is it him in the process of
doing cocaine?
Speaker 9 (20:33):
No? No, it's not in the process of that. But
I mean he's lived. His stories and the life that
he's lived are just absolutely crazy. He toured, he was
out west for a long time, like touring in the
seventies and eighties, and I hear stories from him.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
And my mother constantly about how wild it was.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
In one picture, he's playing his guitar and he's got
like a little fedoran. The other picture is he's wearing
an Uncle Sam one and he has a hat on.
I believe he stores the cocaine under his hats.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Wouldn't surprise me a little bit.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
There are some pictures of them rolling out of that
specific van.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
And there's smoke everywhere. It's very cheaching.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Prong love it, love it. Great reference. By the way,
Thank you, ma'am, thank you. Let me grab one more.
Hi Elli in the morning. Yeah, Hi, who's this, sir? Yeah?
I got you. What's your name?
Speaker 8 (21:38):
So I want I don't want to say my name.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I all want my brothers.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And then I think I'm a nark.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Okay, all right, but go ahead.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
I'm seventy two myself. I don't mess around with him.
I'm a gum adder on myself. But my brothers, he's
seventy seventy seven, him and all his friends around seventy
seven and froday, and they need no this house and
all of them bring from the don't know where. They
get it from the counter. And they got one room.
You got to bring your own store.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
That's old school. That's old school.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Good for you, Good for you, all right, my friend.
I appreciate it. Thank you, sir,