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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look up man Tech. That's the name of the company,
man Tech on Expedition Drive in Lexington Park.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
So you are looking for an actual location.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Oh, that's where it took place. I don't need the Yeah,
but like find the story about the man Tech with
the former employees contractor.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Say again, aren't they a defense contractor?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I don't know what ManTech does?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
The guy?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Who do you find it?

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
All right, hold on to that. Let me get a winner.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Eight six six to Elliott eight six six two three
five five four six eight Hi Elliott the morning.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Who's this.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Matt?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Matt? I'm going to give you one hundred dollars dude,
Hell yeah, hell yeah, all.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Right, so listen, take that money, have a good time
with it, do whatever you want with it.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Just hold tight.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
One Second's a little loud where you are, so we'll
put you on hold. We'll do it again tomorrow cash
at seven thirty and nine o'clock. I am running just
a touch late today and then don't forget once we
get to dirt. I do have your tickets and passes.
You will join us on Friday night. God, that's gonna
be here before you know it. Toby's Dinner theater for

(01:20):
The Little Mermaid. Don't forget two chances early in the
show to win those six twenty six, twenty five, and
then we'll do it during dirt at the end of
the show.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
All right, Man Tech in Lexington Park, please.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Thirty six year old man from Great Mills has been
charged with second degree burglary, fourth degree burglary and theft
under one hundred dollars after an alleged break in at
his former workplace.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Making a note.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
So he worked at ManTech in Lexington Park, Yeah right,
and it's his former place of work.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Thirty six year old Wig mesh Suishwarren, do not. The
charges against him stemmed from an incident that happened last
week when the Saint Mary's County Sheriff's Office was called
for a report of a suspicious incident. Now they met

(02:13):
there with an adult female who said that she had
recently terminated this man back on July the sixteenth.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
So she's the manager, right, okay.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
She told police she got troubling text messages from him
after his termination. One of them said got a lollipop
from the office Prompton, concern about whether he had come
into the office without permission and then when questioned about it.
When she texted back to him, he said that he
was surprised the office didn't have any cameras installed. She

(02:49):
said that this man had been seen, so question fired.
On the sixteenth. She called police on the seventeenth after
all of this weird stuff started to.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Happen, so he went so he texted her that day.
Can I can I ask a question?

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Though?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Like Diane said, defense contracting? Is that what ManTech is?
Why did I think it was like a like a
hiring firm. Oh? I don't know, But is mantek a
defense of defense contractor?

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Leverages are exceptional expertise to deliver solutions?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
This sounds like our self assessment?

Speaker 1 (03:19):
The Hey, can I can I tangent for one second
on that self assessment thing?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was not given that. You don't have to do it? No,
why president of the disc jockey?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
No, oh you administered the No. No, let me.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Tangent for one second. Please ask line to line two
to hold and Diane you hold two? Not you could talk?
But not well you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
No, No, the company is having us do these assessments
of ourselves.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, and then what but I was never given one to.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Just it's in your workday.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
But don't you get an email if there's something in
your workday? Yeah? Right, because I get I still get
the email.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
That says I haven't done my I haven't done my code,
haven't done for the last thing.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
But I don't have anything that says that I'm supposed
to do the assessment. And what does the assessment? Do?
You assess yourself? Yea, degrade yourself?

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Right?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And then I have questions about your lose them?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
God damn it to somebody who works at that man tech.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
You asked questions about your performance and how that aligns
with company goals and policy?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Right, yeah, none of those exist here? And then what
do you and then you submit it and then what happens?

Speaker 6 (04:30):
And then you have to meet with your supervisor who
has filled out the same questionnaire.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
About you and so in this case, Dustin.

Speaker 6 (04:40):
And you would then compare your answers. Yeah, I can't
believe you don't have to do it?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Is it is Dustin sitting right there. Dan, don't lose
your place, can you?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Does he mind?

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Dustin? He I didn't get the assessment thing. I don't
know why that would happen.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I'm being serious.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
I know, I know. I don't know why that would happen.
You're everyone else I see is in my work day,
but I'm not.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
No, yeah, awesome, that's good. No, because I would just
I told them. No, that's good. But I'm not missing something.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
No, do you want me to investigate it?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
No? No, no, zero. Interesting.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
I feel like I should see what's up.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I'll do it because I'm telling you because Diane, you're
on the team chart along with Diane, and you're damn right.
I'm on the team chart. I'm the president of disc job.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
That's right. So I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
But Diane said that everything is like you have to
there's like I don't know what they are because obviously
I'm not on the list.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Like they ask you a question and it's five options.
It's like perfect, exceptional, it's almost like eight.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, so Diane says, and then there's a plot everything
that's like the fourth one all the way down and
just submit.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah. But then is it she's supposed to sit with you.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
And talk about option number four? Is are you think
Diane's not an option number four? I'm sure she's a five.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
The see I told you, that's what I would have done.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
I have always saying there's always a room for fame.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Never my favor. What my teacher would say to me
grade this, like what grade do you think you got?
Always an A always? Why would you put anything less
than that?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah? But I didn't. But everybody keeps talking about it. Wait,
Tyler's got it pulled up.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Yeah, it's this new initiative, this mid year assessment.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
This is this is this is the first time, and
I've been here for fourteen years of the company, this
is the first time I recall this the like having
a form going through workday.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Like I've been asked to assess other people, right, but
I've never been asked to assess myself.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Five Yeah, all fives. Yeah, I wouldn't. I would never
put anything. But what question did you just do?

Speaker 6 (06:53):
No? I was pulling up the exact options you have
to select from.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
What are they like? What is that question?

Speaker 6 (06:59):
Consistently demonstrate rates, regularly, demonstrates, occasionally demonstrates, seldom demonstrates, or
in the role less than three months, needs time to demonstrate.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
But what's the question That one.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
Is has a team focus and embraces collaboration to achieve
goals and key metrics.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Go by five five always.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
Oh so you've been in the role less than three months?
No one, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Whatever the good one. Whatever the good one is. Clearly
I have not taken a dive into this.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
No.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
No, but there's one on there and this is where
I was unclear. Where it talks about the company's goals
and values.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
Oh yeah, that's consistently in bodies company values and encourages
others to do the same.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Now, because I know that you'll be going over this
with Diane and Tyler, what are the company's goals and values?

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Why?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Make money money, make money money money.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Company.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, they're also bankrupt. They're not good at that. That
also serves our community a lot of community initiatives. All right,
but I didn't miss it. I didn't miss this. Please
do not investigate it. Please do not investigate like you can't.
But I'm gonna, I'm telling you right now, want the tape.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Pull the tape. I wasn't on the list, don't go
put it.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
And if you go put me on the list, I'm
not doing it because I'm just being put on the
list as like a grudgef and.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
It could have been just an oversight of day.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm glad it's an oversight. It's a complex program that
we use. Well, obviously I wasn't asked, so I'm not
doing it.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I won't do it.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
I won't.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I haven't done my code of business conduct.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
I understand of everyone on the team.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Right, and I'm the best team player you got.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
You are, thank you, but I would never expect you
to do this.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
No, I won't, I won't, I won't, And really.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
It's just gonna sit there in my work day notification exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
You have now interrupted. Diana's doing a story.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Diana, very sorry.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
All five, you'll.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Know less than three months, all ones, all ones, Yes.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
All right, very good, thank you.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
Dustin to the story where I find myself liking the guy,
but we knew from the headline he arrested, right, so anyway,
so go ahead.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
So it sounds as though he was terminated on the
sixteen and the sixteenth, and then after all of these
weird things happened, is when she.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Called on the seventeenth authorities.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yes, so the victim said that he had been the
victim of the manager. Yeah, victim said that he had
been seen throughout the day in various areas of the
parking lot, and had also sent odd messages to other employees.
She inspected the building after getting his message and noticed
that her office door had been left open. A basket
of lollipops was still present on her desk. But she

(09:43):
did say that this guy was known or had known
about the lollipops and would frequently take one when he'd
pop in while he was working there.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
And what was his text message to her from the office.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, and surprised you don't have cameras.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's why you like him. He's like an anti hero.
I don't know the rest of the story. There could
be more. Wait, so did he break in? Of course
he broke in.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
After after his termination, he had been escorted from the
building denying re entry. When he asked to return to
say goodbye to his co workers, staff instead brought one
employee outside to talk to him.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Wait a minute, so he was like, can I go
say goodbye everybody? He will go get one person.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
She the HR representative said she thought all of his
key cards and access codes had been deactivated, right, Uh,
So then the authorities made contact with him later in
the evening at his residence, and she informed him that
he was being issued and notice not to trespass and
said stop contacting employees.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
So he stopped contacting employees.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Now, he admitted that he had entered the building, say
he only wanted to see if his code was still working,
and then apologized when he realized that his code was
still working. But wait, then he went, He said, he
went into the person's office, which he found open.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
But he is regretful and remorseful. Yes, yeah, okay, he
apologized that.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
I mean, in his part of he could be like, well,
they're the ones that didn't deactivate my code.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
He was also escorted from the building, but he did
get to talk to that one employee, that one employee.
Who would that person be by the way here?

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
If HR had to go get one person to talk
to a fired employee.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
No, but but it's not because that's their role or
like mad is escorting you out? Who's representing those you
wanted to say goodbye to?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Probably me, I would think so, No, I would think, so.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
No, go get Elliott. Then to go get Elliott? How'd
that work out?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Wait? No, who would that be here? That's a good question. No,
Aaron can't be a manager. No, I don't know. I
ask everybody that got fired.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Hey, do you want to talk to Aaron while I
put a knife in his bag?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
About Jen?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Am, you're a bitch? What seriously, You're a.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Bitch with a big spoon and you're stirring a big
vat of s.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
That's who you are.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
That's my guess. I think she would be a good choice.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
All right, move on from that scenario, back to what
was his name?

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (12:42):
So then he told the deputy that he did go
into that woman's office, which he found open.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Thank you, and took two blow pops and then he
left the building. Uh.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
He said he estimated that he came into the building
around five o'clock, but the key card showed that he
used a system admin pin at four oh three. A
generic is like a generic code, so it doesn't connect
you to anybody's key card.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Right, Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
According to HR, each employee normally uses a personalized number
that would display their name wind scan.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Right. That's like when I used to work at a
place and you had to punch it in a code
for long distance, but I would just use other people's codes.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
So he is now looking at charges of second degree burglary,
which is a felony burglary.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
He stole two blow.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Pops, fourth degree burglary, which is a misdemeanor, theft under
one hundred dollars, which is a plus demeanor. Those are
the blowpops because it's like two blowpops that's easily under
five dollars.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
But the burglary is that just entering.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
It's got to be just entering the building if it's felony. Yeah,
but also you let me in. My code still works.
The door was open. It was the generic code. Can
I ask this change that you got to change that
as time you let someone go? Ask Steve Kingston. I
don't know that story. Anytime at disc jockey got fired,
the hot line got changed like that.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
That was his No, that was his way of putting
the screws. Yeah, no, change the hot line. Change the
hot line got a lollipop. Hey wait, So, but I
have a question. I want to say I'm a better person,
but I'm not. Would I be the one that drove
back at like eight o'clock the night I got fired, And.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's like, let's see if the card swipe works.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I do think you would be I do too, and
I'm not proud of it, but I do Where am
I going line to?

Speaker 6 (14:35):
Especially if you were unhappy with the employee representatives.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
That was sent to meet you. Seriously, that's who I
get Hi Elliot in the morning. Hey Elliott, Yeah, Hi,
who's this?

Speaker 7 (14:55):
I'd rather not say so. I currently still work for
that company and that guy it was a complete like
weirdo man.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Like nobody liked that guy.

Speaker 7 (15:03):
So I don't understand why he was trying to get
back into the building. Probably everybody was in there was
like no, no, turn the lights out, we're not here.
And I wouldn't be surprised if he took some of
those lollipops and decided to do something unholy with them.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
And put them back.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
So if that's why she was right to question.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Those things, by the way, I'm with this guy.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
But like, yeah, I mean it's a unique company, man.
It got started in southern Maryland, and yeah, we do
defense contract stuff and like you know HR stuff. Yeah,
just just any of the stuff down there by Pax River.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Hey, who do you know who had to go down
and meet Vincing at the in the parking garage.

Speaker 7 (15:48):
No I missed that because I was like away at
a meeting, so I missed it. So I don't know.
I have to find out myself. The whole situations like
a running joke there. Plus, you know, some women are nervous,
you know, like the whole situations a little funky man like,
it's it's wild it that way?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Hey would? But would would? Was he there for a while.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
A little bit?

Speaker 7 (16:10):
I mean you know, it's just yeah, I tied of.
I don't want to talk too much because then I'll
definitely give myself away. I gotta yeah, I gotta keep
it a little, you know a little. But yeah, man
definitely was Let.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Me just ask it. Is anybody surprised he got fired?

Speaker 7 (16:28):
No, Now, if you know him, you're not. You're not
surprised at all. I mean there might be some people
there that may have known him very little in passing
that would be like, oh he's so nice, and other
people are like yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Right, but if you knew him, I mean, listen, if
you know him, you think that he's.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Doing unholy things with the you enjoyed him when he
was employed.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
There, Yeah, and now I'm not, and then that's they
go right back.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, all right, very think it was something.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
Yeah, I don't think it was something like shoving it anywhere,
but I wouldn't be surprised picking it up and licking.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
All Oh, that's not where I was going.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
But that's good, all right, very good, Thank you, sir,
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
That wasn't a licking sound effect.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
Reading the police report, Diane left something out that I feel, like, Elliott,
you would need.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
To know the answer to go ahead.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
When he left the building, Diane failed to mention he
went to a nearby restaurant.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh, well sure, and they don't say which restaurant.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh, come on, how about be complete in your in
your investigation.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'm with you. I get that, you know, want go home?
You go home. You're miserable. Where did he find comfort in?
What cuisine? What time did he get fired?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
That we don't know because then he got you said
he went back to the office at four thirty, entered.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
The building around five, but the car said five.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
The car's actually at four right, which I'm fine with.
I mean that's close enough. Also, so he was back
well during business hours.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Well, this guy said he was at a meeting and
was like, everybody's like just turn.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Off the lights.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
But that's you know what That doesn't make sense because
wouldn't it be like, or did they close early?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
What day did this happen?

Speaker 6 (18:16):
He's fired on the sixteenth and the from seventeenth last
Wednesdays the sixteenth, So did.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
They close early on Wednesday? Or maybe they closed? What
time does man take Thursday? The hardest stem from the seventeenth.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, oh wait no,
but he got fired that day, but he got picked.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Up on the next day, so they are separate days.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Oh okay, so the seventeenth is a Thursday, Yes, all right,
Well maybe they closed.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Early on Thursday. Summer hours were off Friday.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
Stephens said, brought one employee to speak with him.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
God, I want that job. I want that job. Good lollipop.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
Suddenly he's a locksmith. Surprised the office doesn't have cameras installed,
do they not?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Is that true? Probably not. Our office doesn't have cameras
and we're not a defense uh tech like what man contractor? Yeah, okay,
but that doesn't mean they've got cameras in there.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
Don't you think they have more sensitive information in those
spaces than we do?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
No, no, okay, we have sensitive information.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Looks like there's a place called call signs. That's right.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
There was that a bar? Yeah, yeah, No, he probably
went over and had a couple of pops.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
A lot of taps.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yep, a naval aviation theme bar right at the footsteps
of Pax River.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, went over, had a couple of pops and was like,
going to get a lollipop.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
They ain't gonna get me. I'll use the guest code.
They have a four to six on Google. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Let me see if he is a local guide. I
told you stumbled on he in the VARs. Yes, Big Nash, right,
that's his name. That'd be so great.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
No, Big Big Nash, I don't see it yet.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
And if he went there, you know he's a five
star a man
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