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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can you imagine anything that would get you to stop
eating meat? And when I say meat, I mean steak, beef, pork, anything, chicken, meat, meat.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So this is going vegetarian, not having to go vegan.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, correct, I mean I mean that that would be
your choice with how far you wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
But yeah, like just becoming a non meat eater.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I mean unless it was like a hard and fest
order from a doctor where you're like, listen, you are
in a bad way. If you want to live, you
got to go vegetarian.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Okay, that's a fair answer. I'll accept that as a name.
I don't see that in your future. No, you're too healthy,
but I could. That is a fair answer as to
what would get somebody to stop you eat meat.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I've seen you eat meat.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, Tyler's backed off on it. Never last year, Elliott,
you're forgetting you for a couple of weeks claimed well
because it was you and your immature you claimed I
had gone vegetarian. But do you remember that you kept
saying vegetarian.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That's right, but you but you do eat meat.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I do eat meat. But I could definitely if a
doctor told me. Doctor's orders all the time. But if
someone said.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, told Diane she was gonna die if she ate me.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
For your well being, I would definitely cut it out.
That was sort of the reason that I have limited
myself since a check up last year.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, but you still eat chicken, you still eat pork.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, but I could definitely. Going back to a few
weeks ago, I told you about the PTSD workers in slaughterhouses,
face right, and I got messages from people that said,
I don't think I'll ever eat meat again. So could
could I perhaps be exposed to the horrors of that
(01:57):
industry so much so that I can't move forward?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
But those I couldn't vision that, I couldn't, you know what,
Like there's there's like yes, there are every so often
you see like a bad, grainy video that comes out
of a hyeah. Yeah, and that hasn't stopped me.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I think if I was in one, I would never
go visit a slaughterhouse. God, now, I would never go
visit a slaughterhouse.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I didn't say I was scheduling it for a weekend trip.
But if for some reason I had to, it may
be so awful that I couldn't remember the picture I
painted of the skinning of the cow who was delivering
the baby.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Oh, that's right, that's right. Yeah, No, that's bad, that's bad.
Has anybody that reminds me? Though?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Has anybody seen what is the documentary called Dominion?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Have we talked about dominion before?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Dominion sound familiar?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Dominion? Dominion doesn't have that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
There's so many things named that the uh newer.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I don't know how old it is. I don't know
how old it is. Is this twenty eighteen, I mean
that's relatively new.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Drones and hidden cameras, insign Australian slaughterhouses and macro farms.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Doesn't somebody famous voice?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
It?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Isn't there a famous voice?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Oh it's not Leev Schreiber. I'd listened to it. Don
Joaquin Phoenix?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Maybe is he a vegetarian?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
If you're doing this movie, by the.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Oh you would have to be.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, although you know what, for the right paycheck, I
would do it.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Hey don't eat meat, y'all?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Oh, I don't want to see sad little piggies.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The no. No, But they said, we're like, if you
go back to if you go back to like the
slaughterhouse videos where a lot of them are grainy and
snuck in and it's like a lapel camera or something.
I guess Dominion from what I was reading, is very
very like high Death and like like right up close.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I won't watch it, but they said that one compared
to like all the other slaughterhouse videos that you see,
Dominion is like it gets you, like they said you
could see. And I guess like they talk about like
the pigs and stuff and listen, I don't know what
goes on in the slaughterhouse. And I don't know if
what I read about what you see in Dominion is
(04:23):
true or not.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I mean, it could just be hyperbole.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Like I don't really believe they just throw the pigs
against walls.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Anyway, anyway, you've made me vegetarian for the weekend. No way,
no way.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
But so I was reading this thing yesterday where they
were talking about as much push as there has been
in the last let's call it handful of years to
back off on meat, on meat eating. You have impossible,
this impossible, meatless, mondays the tofu what is it? What's
(05:06):
the what is the sister two? Impossible like impossible.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Meatyond beyond.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We more meat now than we've ever eaten in our lives.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Really, Yeah, ingrats, guys.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Meat meat consumption is is higher than ever. And they
said there's been so much push over the last like
they'll they'll say close to a decade, like all the
stuff about like free range and slaughterhouses and food food
plants and stuff like that, for all of the press
around that, and for all of the hype around impossible
(05:40):
and beyond and like all that other crap. We more
meat now than ever before. So that begged the question
is there anything that would make you stop?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And if I'm answering, honestly, I think the answer.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Is no, even if a doctor told you, yeah, no,
I mean that that to me, I know it's extreme.
That is that is an extreme case. I never though,
but that would really that would really be it. I
never found myself craving meat.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Are you serious? Wait, you don't crave it?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I don't really have food cravings like I'll be hungry
or oh I need to eat. But it's not something
that I then seek out because I feel like I
really need to have it.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Like all week I've been further from that.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
All we could have been craving a beer and I
can't wait to have a beer today. But I don't
drink during the week, so I do have alcohol cravings.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
When did you know there was a problem when I
stated that out loud.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
No, So, yeah, no, I understand.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That, But I never when it comes to meat. So
if somebody provided me with a source of protein, and
they have, and even if it was something a little
out there. Remember years ago we talked to the author
of the book on eating insects. Right, if that kind
and if stuff became more commonplace, I wouldn't be opposed.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
To it, to being a vegetarian.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
To a welcoming differents into my diet, right because I
really never say to myself I need a hamburger or
I need chicken, or it's it's it's not something I'm like,
oh god, let's go get a steak.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
No, you know what, I'm with you part of the way,
Like I won't sit there and go like I am
craving a steak, but I will go, oh, you know
what sounds good for dinner tonight?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Steak a potato. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Like, but it's not because I'm craving just it's because
I'm craving a meal.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
This is really interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
There is meat in the meal. Why because I ain't
a vegetarian.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
This says that animal rights groups have largely given up
on trying to change people's diets, thank you, because it
was ineffective. Yes, we more meat than ever. Since the seventies,
advocates poured a lot of resources into persuading people to
go vegetarian or vegan, expensive advertising campaigns, pamphlets, lectures, letters.
(08:15):
But now they've shifted their focus towards banning some of
these And you alluded to them egregious factory farm practices.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Right, So their whole mission now is instead of changing
people one by one, it's changing mass.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, they've changed trying to change the system versus the
people within the food chain.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You know what I never think about in credit to me? No, No,
But you know what I never think about. I don't
think I never think about like that. What's the old
expression how the sausage is made. I don't know what
happens to pigs based on dominion. They just throw them
against walls.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
If I think about like steak or burger, it'll ruin
it for me for a couple of day.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Because of how it's done. Nope, But the fact that
it's just a cow crave them.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
But if you think about they take that cow and
they bolt him, then you're like, I.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Can't do this.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, and the baby cows the oh veal? Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh, how big of you?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I just because of that?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Because of what?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Because it's baby cows and they're they're brutalized.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
As opposed to the pigs that are just thrown against
the wall.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I don't think a pig's that way.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
What is if meal is a baby cow? Is there
a baby piglet?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
What do I? Yeah? What do I eat there?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I've never heard of this?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, like like and the answer may be nothing. The
answer may be nothing. But if because everybody does there like,
oh I won't eat veal, I won't eat veal.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I had veal last weekend. It was fantastic. I love.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Would this be a suckling pig?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I don't know that I've ever had, but I've heard
of that.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I didn't know that was the baby?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
What is? What is suckling pig? Have I had that?
I definitely had pork?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Rinds says this says that the tenderness and the incomparable
moistness is something you cannot find in any other dish.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
You know what I'm craving. I want a suckling pig.
I gotta know what that But but you don't get
the whole pig.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Baby ham not I love ham.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You definitely have it with its legs out and it
served to you. It looks like it's a it's a
very Spanish.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Does it get served like a like like a like
a cornish hen?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Oh okay?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Or like squab the claw?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That's okay, Diane, that's a pigeon. That's a pigeon.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So this is big in it says Spain, Italy, Germany
and Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Oh excellent?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Who that?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Who they want?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
They want that cycling pig? No, Gretna, looks like pigs
live there, pig sty Uh?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Where am I going? Christen? You'll nothing wouldn't get you
to stop eating meat? No, thank you? Kristin Her, I
don't know. Hi, Elliott the morning?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Is this me?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Who's this?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
All right?
Speaker 7 (11:24):
This is Mallory. I was calm because like twenty years ago,
when I was a vegetarian, I read the book Dominion,
and it's actually by Matthew Scully, who was like the
senior speechwriter for Bush for a year, right, and it's
going over like how humans domain, you know, are dominant
of the earth. But then also it touches on like
fur trades all sorts of like cruelty and stuff, but
(11:45):
then also goes back to like religious you know, teachings
that men is higher than animals.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Regardless.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
It's a really thick book.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
But it's very good.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
And I'm not a vegetari anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I just got hungry.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
What was the first meal that switched you?
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Taco bell I.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Had a girl, a girl.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Why did you just think, like I'm renting the food,
I'm not eating it. I gotta come out.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Hey what is the I mean, it's not really pure
beef anyway?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So is is dominion? What flipped you to vegetarian?
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Though?
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Uh No, I saw the videos when I was young, right, Yeah,
it's Peda videos, you know, And yeah, I just I
spent time at like farm sanctuary when I was eighteen,
still when I was a vegetarian of like rescued farm animals,
you know, and it is true like just you know,
dogs and cats are you know, pets, but the other
farm animals they're very friendly now their own personalities, but
(12:41):
you know, to each their own I was never the
kind of person to push being a vegetarian or anything
on anybody else, because that's just I mean listening, you know, be.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
A vegetarian, be a vegetarian. I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
All right, Very good, very good, Thank you, ma'am, thank you, yes, Kyler.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I continue to read about Coach and Eel, which is
the oh you're into the suckling buckling pig in Spain,
which apparently Ernest Hemingway loved, but it says customers are
incredulous that it is even pork because it evokes tastes
of duck or really moist turkey. And then it's sealed
by this crispy outer skin.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh see, now, can I tell you what's going through
my head right now?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Crispy skin?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
No, I hear that.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm thinking, you know what, you know, it would be
good while I'm watching the draft tonight, peking Gourmet load
up on a duck. That sounds good. Now everybody keeps
mentioning steak. You know where I want to go? Also,
like now now I'm craving ato' one chop house and
Tysons fantastic, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Says when it's butterflied, is rubbed with olive oil, garlic, salt,
and thyme.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Cooked in two stages, once for about an hour in
a clay dish alongside the fire or on a grate,
and later after it is cool to brown the skin.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Here, Peggy, Peggy, pe Piggy peey, Here Peggy Peggy.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Pek Christin. What was the experiment you were a part
of in Collins?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Oh, let's turn Kristin on. This will be good.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Oh was it beating up vegetarians? Yes, hi, Kristen, good morning.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
What were you in in college? We I can't remember.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
What class it was, if it was my ethics class
or what, but a I remember my whole class was
sitting there and our teacher was like, hey, so we're
gonna put our books away today. We have a documentary
we're going to watch. And it was like based off
of the slaughterhouses and things like that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
So on the huge pro how about write a note
and get me out of that.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So on the big projection screen, we watched this movie.
It was over an hour, and the creators and the
producers of all the movie were there and they were
they went around to each of us and we're like
drilling it. Now are you gonna eat meat, and we're
all like, yeah. I think there was maybe one girl
(14:56):
who was a lab and she like got up and
cried and.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Like, okay, for those of you that don't have a
glossary book at home, that's a whiney ass bitch, weak
ass week ass bitch.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Sorry, weak ass bitch.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
But then the rest of us were like, hey, you
guys want to go for burgers? And we left the
class and went out.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So I was in this thing that I was reading.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
They showed a bunch of They showed a bunch of
people that Dominion movie and just kind of followed up
with them. For some people, it had about a week
long effect and that was it, and then everybody else
was right back into uh eating the food, right back
into it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Short lived.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, yeah, and again more than ever and all you've heard.
And you see those pictures of the cows that have
like the gas tank cap on their side to let
the gases.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Out, Yeah, awesome, I got no problem with that. The
I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I don't think there's anything that would get me to
stop eating meat. I can't think of anything.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And for this thing you read, is that sort of
the conclusion They came to that with all these options of.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And options and I don't want to say education information,
all of that and the push for over a decade
and how hard it was, and yes, meatless mondays and
impossible this and beyond that and foe this and tofu
and everything. We eat more meat than ever And so
(16:20):
even this whole thing that I read was is it
even possible to convince people to stop eating meat?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Desprite all the problems with meat, we are eating more
and more of it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And then they go on and say could this change
people's mind? They get into dominion, and the answer when
they'd showed dominion people was no. Yes.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Kristen, I will say the documentary was like, I'm like,
oh my gosh, I can't believe the animals are mistreated
so badly. I do know it's not like that everywhere, sure,
but all I wanted was a burger.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I hear you, I hear you. I'd eat while I'm
watching the movie. WHOA see myself doing it?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes? Time from Feliciano. We are serving suckling pig today
at the Virginia Portuguese Community Center. You are welcome to
come by and try it for lunch. Jam Buenos the
US count me there. That sounds great. Where is that?
Are you familiar with that center?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
The I am not.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
You've never done events with them in the past.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I have not, and uh will they will? They have
the draft on.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Well it's lunch oh okay, and it's in Manassas.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh, look at.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That America's most Livable Community home of the suckling Pig,
Line five. That is at that is our community animal.
Hi Elliott, the morning.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Elliott, Yes, sir, uh, I was just calling about the
suckling pig.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
It is probably the most delicious piece of meat I
have ever tried my entire life, and I have tried
everything from alligator to crocodile to dog to all kinds
of different meats. It is like fall off the bone delicious.
It is the most amazing thing you can ever try
in your life.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Is Tyler is Tyler right? Though it doesn't taste like ham, it's.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
Not like a ham. I still think it tasted like ports,
but not as not as uh not as strong as
a ham flavor.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
It was more.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
It was much more subtle. It's similar to like a
veal and a beef. Like if you get an eighth
piece of beef. It has a real strong flavor to it.
But that piece of beal is just like sweet and succulent.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Right, so is it like?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And by the way, it's easy with It's easy when
you talk about it's easy when you talk about pigs
and stuff to go to like ham and bacon. You're
gonna tell me you wouldn't crush a pork chop right now.
I love pork chops, of.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Course, two or three of them with you, mother, than
buggers and gravy.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Let's go all right, dude, I appreciate it, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yes, Tyler.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And you see the name of this video about to
play on the Titan tron. I cannot suckling pig is
so tender. It's cut by plates.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
He's taking a plate and just stabbing at it. Can
you put it up on the screen. Diane has to
see this. Diane has to see this.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Hold on, so paint this picture of what I'm about
to see. He's using the side of a plate.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yes, cut, yes, and there's just a dinner plate and
he's just.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And then he throws look at him and then he
throws the plate.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
O big man with your metal.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
The oh Diane, he's eating a piece of pork,
Can you imagine anything that would get you to stop
eating meat? And when I say meat, I mean steak, beef, pork, anything, chicken, meat, meat.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So this is going vegetarian, not having to go vegan.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, correct, I mean I mean that that would be
your choice with how far you wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
But yeah, like just becoming a non meat eater.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I mean unless it was like a hard and fest
order from a doctor where you're like, listen, you are
in a bad way. If you want to live, you
got to go vegetarian.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Okay, that's a fair answer. I'll accept that as a name.
I don't see that in your future. No, you're too healthy,
but I could. That is a fair answer as to
what would get somebody to stop you eat meat.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I've seen you eat meat.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, Tyler's backed off on it. Never last year, Elliott,
you're forgetting you for a couple of weeks claimed well
because it was you and your immature you claimed I
had gone vegetarian. But do you remember that you kept
saying vegetarian.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That's right, but you but you do eat meat.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I do eat meat. But I could definitely if a
doctor told me. Doctor's orders all the time. But if
someone said.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, told Diane she was gonna die if she ate me.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
For your well being, I would definitely cut it out.
That was sort of the reason that I have limited
myself since a check up last year.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, but you still eat chicken, you still eat pork.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, but I could definitely. Going back to a few
weeks ago, I told you about the PTSD workers in slaughterhouses,
face right, and I got messages from people that said,
I don't think I'll ever eat meat again. So could
could I perhaps be exposed to the horrors of that
(01:57):
industry so much so that I can't move forward?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
But those I couldn't vision that, I couldn't, you know what,
Like there's there's like yes, there are every so often
you see like a bad, grainy video that comes out
of a hyeah. Yeah, and that hasn't stopped me.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I think if I was in one, I would never
go visit a slaughterhouse. God, now, I would never go
visit a slaughterhouse.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I didn't say I was scheduling it for a weekend trip.
But if for some reason I had to, it may
be so awful that I couldn't remember the picture I
painted of the skinning of the cow who was delivering
the baby.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Oh, that's right, that's right. Yeah, No, that's bad, that's bad.
Has anybody that reminds me? Though?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Has anybody seen what is the documentary called Dominion?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Have we talked about dominion before?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Dominion sound familiar?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Dominion? Dominion doesn't have that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
There's so many things named that the uh newer.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I don't know how old it is. I don't know
how old it is. Is this twenty eighteen, I mean
that's relatively new.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Drones and hidden cameras, insign Australian slaughterhouses and macro farms.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Doesn't somebody famous voice?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
It?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Isn't there a famous voice?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Oh it's not Leev Schreiber. I'd listened to it. Don
Joaquin Phoenix?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Maybe is he a vegetarian?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
If you're doing this movie, by the.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Oh you would have to be.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, although you know what, for the right paycheck, I
would do it.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Hey don't eat meat, y'all?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Oh, I don't want to see sad little piggies.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The no. No, But they said, we're like, if you
go back to if you go back to like the
slaughterhouse videos where a lot of them are grainy and
snuck in and it's like a lapel camera or something.
I guess Dominion from what I was reading, is very
very like high Death and like like right up close.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I won't watch it, but they said that one compared
to like all the other slaughterhouse videos that you see,
Dominion is like it gets you, like they said you
could see. And I guess like they talk about like
the pigs and stuff and listen, I don't know what
goes on in the slaughterhouse. And I don't know if
what I read about what you see in Dominion is
(04:23):
true or not.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I mean, it could just be hyperbole.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Like I don't really believe they just throw the pigs
against walls.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Anyway, anyway, you've made me vegetarian for the weekend. No way,
no way.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
But so I was reading this thing yesterday where they
were talking about as much push as there has been
in the last let's call it handful of years to
back off on meat, on meat eating. You have impossible,
this impossible, meatless, mondays the tofu what is it? What's
(05:06):
the what is the sister two? Impossible like impossible.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Meatyond beyond.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We more meat now than we've ever eaten in our lives.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Really, Yeah, ingrats, guys.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Meat meat consumption is is higher than ever. And they
said there's been so much push over the last like
they'll they'll say close to a decade, like all the
stuff about like free range and slaughterhouses and food food
plants and stuff like that, for all of the press
around that, and for all of the hype around impossible
(05:40):
and beyond and like all that other crap. We more
meat now than ever before. So that begged the question
is there anything that would make you stop?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And if I'm answering, honestly, I think the answer.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Is no, even if a doctor told you, yeah, no,
I mean that that to me, I know it's extreme.
That is that is an extreme case. I never though,
but that would really that would really be it. I
never found myself craving meat.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Are you serious? Wait, you don't crave it?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I don't really have food cravings like I'll be hungry
or oh I need to eat. But it's not something
that I then seek out because I feel like I
really need to have it.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Like all week I've been further from that.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
All we could have been craving a beer and I
can't wait to have a beer today. But I don't
drink during the week, so I do have alcohol cravings.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
When did you know there was a problem when I
stated that out loud.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
No, So, yeah, no, I understand.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That, But I never when it comes to meat. So
if somebody provided me with a source of protein, and
they have, and even if it was something a little
out there. Remember years ago we talked to the author
of the book on eating insects. Right, if that kind
and if stuff became more commonplace, I wouldn't be opposed.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
To it, to being a vegetarian.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
To a welcoming differents into my diet, right because I
really never say to myself I need a hamburger or
I need chicken, or it's it's it's not something I'm like,
oh god, let's go get a steak.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
No, you know what, I'm with you part of the way,
Like I won't sit there and go like I am
craving a steak, but I will go, oh, you know
what sounds good for dinner tonight?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Steak a potato. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Like, but it's not because I'm craving just it's because
I'm craving a meal.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
This is really interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
There is meat in the meal. Why because I ain't
a vegetarian.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
This says that animal rights groups have largely given up
on trying to change people's diets, thank you, because it
was ineffective. Yes, we more meat than ever. Since the seventies,
advocates poured a lot of resources into persuading people to
go vegetarian or vegan, expensive advertising campaigns, pamphlets, lectures, letters.
(08:15):
But now they've shifted their focus towards banning some of
these And you alluded to them egregious factory farm practices.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Right, So their whole mission now is instead of changing
people one by one, it's changing mass.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, they've changed trying to change the system versus the
people within the food chain.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You know what I never think about in credit to me? No, No,
But you know what I never think about. I don't
think I never think about like that. What's the old
expression how the sausage is made. I don't know what
happens to pigs based on dominion. They just throw them
against walls.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
If I think about like steak or burger, it'll ruin
it for me for a couple of day.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Because of how it's done. Nope, But the fact that
it's just a cow crave them.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
But if you think about they take that cow and
they bolt him, then you're like, I.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Can't do this.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, and the baby cows the oh veal? Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh, how big of you?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I just because of that?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Because of what?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Because it's baby cows and they're they're brutalized.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
As opposed to the pigs that are just thrown against
the wall.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I don't think a pig's that way.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
What is if meal is a baby cow? Is there
a baby piglet?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
What do I? Yeah? What do I eat there?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I've never heard of this?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, like like and the answer may be nothing. The
answer may be nothing. But if because everybody does there like,
oh I won't eat veal, I won't eat veal.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I had veal last weekend. It was fantastic. I love.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Would this be a suckling pig?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I don't know that I've ever had, but I've heard
of that.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I didn't know that was the baby?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
What is? What is suckling pig? Have I had that?
I definitely had pork?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Rinds says this says that the tenderness and the incomparable
moistness is something you cannot find in any other dish.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
You know what I'm craving. I want a suckling pig.
I gotta know what that But but you don't get
the whole pig.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Baby ham not I love ham.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You definitely have it with its legs out and it
served to you. It looks like it's a it's a
very Spanish.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Does it get served like a like like a like
a cornish hen?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Oh okay?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Or like squab the claw?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That's okay, Diane, that's a pigeon. That's a pigeon.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So this is big in it says Spain, Italy, Germany
and Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Oh excellent?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Who that?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Who they want?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
They want that cycling pig? No, Gretna, looks like pigs
live there, pig sty Uh?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Where am I going? Christen? You'll nothing wouldn't get you
to stop eating meat? No, thank you? Kristin Her, I
don't know. Hi, Elliott the morning?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Is this me?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Who's this?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
All right?
Speaker 7 (11:24):
This is Mallory. I was calm because like twenty years ago,
when I was a vegetarian, I read the book Dominion,
and it's actually by Matthew Scully, who was like the
senior speechwriter for Bush for a year, right, and it's
going over like how humans domain, you know, are dominant
of the earth. But then also it touches on like
fur trades all sorts of like cruelty and stuff, but
(11:45):
then also goes back to like religious you know, teachings
that men is higher than animals.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Regardless.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
It's a really thick book.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
But it's very good.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
And I'm not a vegetari anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I just got hungry.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
What was the first meal that switched you?
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Taco bell I.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Had a girl, a girl.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Why did you just think, like I'm renting the food,
I'm not eating it. I gotta come out.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Hey what is the I mean, it's not really pure
beef anyway?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So is is dominion? What flipped you to vegetarian?
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Though?
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Uh No, I saw the videos when I was young, right, Yeah,
it's Peda videos, you know, And yeah, I just I
spent time at like farm sanctuary when I was eighteen,
still when I was a vegetarian of like rescued farm animals,
you know, and it is true like just you know,
dogs and cats are you know, pets, but the other
farm animals they're very friendly now their own personalities, but
(12:41):
you know, to each their own I was never the
kind of person to push being a vegetarian or anything
on anybody else, because that's just I mean listening, you know, be.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
A vegetarian, be a vegetarian. I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
All right, Very good, very good, Thank you, ma'am, thank you, yes, Kyler.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I continue to read about Coach and Eel, which is
the oh you're into the suckling buckling pig in Spain,
which apparently Ernest Hemingway loved, but it says customers are
incredulous that it is even pork because it evokes tastes
of duck or really moist turkey. And then it's sealed
by this crispy outer skin.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh see, now, can I tell you what's going through
my head right now?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Crispy skin?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
No, I hear that.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm thinking, you know what, you know, it would be
good while I'm watching the draft tonight, peking Gourmet load
up on a duck. That sounds good. Now everybody keeps
mentioning steak. You know where I want to go? Also,
like now now I'm craving ato' one chop house and
Tysons fantastic, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Says when it's butterflied, is rubbed with olive oil, garlic, salt,
and thyme.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Cooked in two stages, once for about an hour in
a clay dish alongside the fire or on a grate,
and later after it is cool to brown the skin.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Here, Peggy, Peggy, pe Piggy peey, Here Peggy Peggy.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Pek Christin. What was the experiment you were a part
of in Collins?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Oh, let's turn Kristin on. This will be good.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Oh was it beating up vegetarians? Yes, hi, Kristen, good morning.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
What were you in in college? We I can't remember.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
What class it was, if it was my ethics class
or what, but a I remember my whole class was
sitting there and our teacher was like, hey, so we're
gonna put our books away today. We have a documentary
we're going to watch. And it was like based off
of the slaughterhouses and things like that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
So on the huge pro how about write a note
and get me out of that.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So on the big projection screen, we watched this movie.
It was over an hour, and the creators and the
producers of all the movie were there and they were
they went around to each of us and we're like
drilling it. Now are you gonna eat meat, and we're
all like, yeah. I think there was maybe one girl
(14:56):
who was a lab and she like got up and
cried and.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Like, okay, for those of you that don't have a
glossary book at home, that's a whiney ass bitch, weak
ass week ass bitch.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Sorry, weak ass bitch.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
But then the rest of us were like, hey, you
guys want to go for burgers? And we left the
class and went out.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So I was in this thing that I was reading.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
They showed a bunch of They showed a bunch of
people that Dominion movie and just kind of followed up
with them. For some people, it had about a week
long effect and that was it, and then everybody else
was right back into uh eating the food, right back
into it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Short lived.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, yeah, and again more than ever and all you've heard.
And you see those pictures of the cows that have
like the gas tank cap on their side to let
the gases.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Out, Yeah, awesome, I got no problem with that. The
I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I don't think there's anything that would get me to
stop eating meat. I can't think of anything.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And for this thing you read, is that sort of
the conclusion They came to that with all these options of.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And options and I don't want to say education information,
all of that and the push for over a decade
and how hard it was, and yes, meatless mondays and
impossible this and beyond that and foe this and tofu
and everything. We eat more meat than ever And so
(16:20):
even this whole thing that I read was is it
even possible to convince people to stop eating meat?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Desprite all the problems with meat, we are eating more
and more of it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And then they go on and say could this change
people's mind? They get into dominion, and the answer when
they'd showed dominion people was no. Yes.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Kristen, I will say the documentary was like, I'm like,
oh my gosh, I can't believe the animals are mistreated
so badly. I do know it's not like that everywhere, sure,
but all I wanted was a burger.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I hear you, I hear you. I'd eat while I'm
watching the movie. WHOA see myself doing it?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes? Time from Feliciano. We are serving suckling pig today
at the Virginia Portuguese Community Center. You are welcome to
come by and try it for lunch. Jam Buenos the
US count me there. That sounds great. Where is that?
Are you familiar with that center?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
The I am not.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
You've never done events with them in the past.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I have not, and uh will they will? They have
the draft on.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Well it's lunch oh okay, and it's in Manassas.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh, look at.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That America's most Livable Community home of the suckling Pig,
Line five. That is at that is our community animal.
Hi Elliott, the morning.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Elliott, Yes, sir, uh, I was just calling about the
suckling pig.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
It is probably the most delicious piece of meat I
have ever tried my entire life, and I have tried
everything from alligator to crocodile to dog to all kinds
of different meats. It is like fall off the bone delicious.
It is the most amazing thing you can ever try
in your life.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Is Tyler is Tyler right? Though it doesn't taste like ham, it's.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
Not like a ham. I still think it tasted like ports,
but not as not as uh not as strong as
a ham flavor.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
It was more.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
It was much more subtle. It's similar to like a
veal and a beef. Like if you get an eighth
piece of beef. It has a real strong flavor to it.
But that piece of beal is just like sweet and succulent.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Right, so is it like?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And by the way, it's easy with It's easy when
you talk about it's easy when you talk about pigs
and stuff to go to like ham and bacon. You're
gonna tell me you wouldn't crush a pork chop right now.
I love pork chops, of.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Course, two or three of them with you, mother, than
buggers and gravy.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Let's go all right, dude, I appreciate it, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yes, Tyler.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And you see the name of this video about to
play on the Titan tron. I cannot suckling pig is
so tender. It's cut by plates.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
He's taking a plate and just stabbing at it. Can
you put it up on the screen. Diane has to
see this. Diane has to see this.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Hold on, so paint this picture of what I'm about
to see. He's using the side of a plate.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yes, cut, yes, and there's just a dinner plate and
he's just.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And then he throws look at him and then he
throws the plate.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
O big man with your metal.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
The oh Diane, he's eating a piece of pork,
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