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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I meant to bring this up during news, so forgive me.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
They found piles of dead baby goats at the Manistee
National Forest.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
So what is the National Forest?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I remember I think that's where my dad and his
friends used to go hunting. I don't know. I definitely
remember him talking about Manisty a lot when I.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Was a little kid.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Right, So it's like like a three plus hour drive,
like outside of Detroit. But it just says there's piles
of dead baby goats that were found dumped in this
local forest.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
And I feel like I saw two different accounts of it.
One is there was like a pile of like seventy yeah,
and then another one there was a pile of.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Like fifty so quite a few.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
That's about one hundred and twenty goats, right, Why are
they just in piles? And they said, like the goats
didn't look Oh what did they say about the goats?
What did they say they didn't look malnourished or did they.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
No see this? One says officers of like DNR said
the goats were being kept in poor conditions, So did
the ports like starve to death?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But they're in a pile in the middle of the woods.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
To me, that's the start of bad conditions. Yeah, dead
in a pile. But how they did they die?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Like in a pen?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And then were they just dumped there by the people that.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
You wouldn't do that?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Why would you? Why would you take seventy goats? First
of all, nobody who's got seventy goats? But why would
we're one hundred and twenty? How would you get them there?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, I mean you can arrange for transport. I got
a guy, So.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
If I call you and go, hey, I need you
to transport one hundred and twenty dead goats.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Here's what guy? Do you say? Mike Smith doesn't want
to plug.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
There's no way.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I honestly think getting them there. I don't know at
all what's going on on here, but bringing them And
Diane said, of what this is? Oh, we don't even
know if they started out in Detroit, but this is
this is three hours outside whatever. Christian, will you find
me somebody who can figure this out?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Please?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Eight six six to Elliott eight six six two three
five five four six eight.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
This will give my driver a chance to get out
of Florida. They're looking for him. He hit some power loves.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
What is going on there?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I don't know, it's awful, but you're looking at photos? No, no, no,
I'm sure. Yeah. Who discovered them?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Wasn't it just some guy out.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
To somebody reported to DNR and then they went to
go investigate.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I wouldn't even know what to do if I came
across that.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Some sort of got some sort of complaint of a
pile of dead baby goats. So that was somebody who
just saw it happened upon them.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yes, they walked by.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
They were like, why is every fly in the state
of Detroit, Michigan?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Why are they here?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And then a forestry officer contacted them again and found
an additional pile that had been called in.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So there's your two different piles.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah. How close to each other were they? I don't
see that.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I don't know how big the park was.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It didn't sound like you could see like you know how,
it didn't sound like you could see pile two from
pile one.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
And what is a local saying? Have they talked to anybody?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, some think it's some kind of well, it depends
on which one you get. Some of them think it's
some kind of what's the word that I'm looking for
like a ritual of some sort. Yes, some think that
it's just somebody who like just went out and started
killing them.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, both of the stories I see are saying they
keep talking about like unsanitary and unsafe conditions.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Where though, where there too? Where was it unsanitary?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So this account said that there was a baby goat
that did have an ear tag on one of them,
and that is how they were able to narrow it
down to a suspect. But then the suspects like, oh no,
these goats are all fine, they're at my farm.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It's so where they stole it.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Then they said about twenty baby goats were at this farm.
They looked similar to the ones that were found dead
in the forest. That visits only showed that one was
found dead in the pen.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
So the other ones are fine. Yeah, I would have listened.
If you've got that many goats.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
They observed that the goats were being kept in poor conditions.
That's a lot of goats, I know.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Now you're up to one hundred and seventy.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
If you have that many, are you known? It seems
like you're right. That does seem like a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't know anybody who's got one goat?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
No, no, we've definitely talked to people who have goats.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I don't know anybody who has a goat.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
We talked to the one F family leads like the
goat parade.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
The Oh that's true, and I guess I've met Jim Brewer.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Awesome.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
So that's about it. So the ear tag that gets
you back to the house. And I know, Elliott, I'm sorry,
I had one job.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Speaking of oversights, like, seriously, you eventually hope that they
can put together who's done this? But what are you
leaving a tracking device on it for? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Well, oh that is true.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I thought you were going to say, why aren't they
who didn't tag the rest of the goats? But no,
who didn't rip the tag out of that one that
got them back here? Be?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But did they? Did they steal the rest of the goats?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Let me see it. Facebook's talking about they are?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I said that until Diane said the conditions are poor
at the farm.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
If you own one hundred and seven, I'm sorry. Unless
your last name, Who's what's a big goat company? Unless
your last name is Perdue, you don't.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
It's gross.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You've got one hundred and seventy goats, So you're on
board with these were stolen.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Why would you if they weren't, why would you just
dump them in a field? Because you're right, people know
if you've got one hundred and seventy goats at your house,
I promise you, if your neighbor had one hundred and
seventy goats, you would know stink, especially in those conditions.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Andrew Frieden knows. But with Diane talking about the place
they were able to go talk to, it sounds like
it's not the best of situations.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No situation's going to be good for one hundred and
seventy goats.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
You probably could have a big enough property.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
And if you told me, if you told me that
there was if I had one hundred and seventy goats
and there was one dead one land in there, I'd
be like, yeah, it happens.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I mean, it's not good, but one's going to go out.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
And now I'm very confused by this story.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, local Animal Control has the case for further investigation.
The owner of the goats has been advised to get
medical care for the other animals.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So they are there's not.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
A ton of ton of information. Where's all my conspiracy
theorists on Facebook? Come on?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Or where's your dad's former hunting buddies? Are you in
a Facebook group with them?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
No? But they're probably in a pile similar to the goats, Elliott,
they're probably past.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, you're asking where they're They're at Saint Hedwigs.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
And the Angry. Yeah, they're dead, not all of them, right, Yes,
it's possible that some are still with us.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I mean no, I feel like, what of his and
if they're listening, it's been within the last.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Was it noted like like they do on TMZ when
the last member of the Lollipop Guild dies? Was it was?
It made a weird like this is the last of
this friend group?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Their dead?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
The math works out that someone could still be alive.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
In their nineties. Yes, yeah, right, No, they've all they
all looked pretty hard. So no, I mean there was
one mister McNeely I think made it to ninety two.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's great it is that was also ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Hi Elliot in the morning, Hey, good morning, Hey, Yeah,
what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
So I knew I knew a girl in high school
and she her and her friends they stole a baby
goat out of someone's uh farm, I gotut of the yard,
and they got they got charges for animal cruelty because
they just did end up just dying because they had
no idea what they were doing. They just stole the
goat and it they didn't feed it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Well, they didn't feed it.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
They didn't know, they had no clue what they were doing.
They were just they just grabbed it goat out of
someone's yards.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And then just that's bad.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
They got They've gotten a lot of trouble for it.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
It was terrible.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
That's bad. That's horrible. I don't like to hear that.
I don't like to hear that.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yeah, all right, I just made me think of it
when I heard you talking about no, no, listen.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I appreciate it. I appreciate Welcome to summer. Thank you, sir,
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
What Diane, just digging a little deeper into the comments this,
I mean again, take it for what it's worth and
where it's being discovered. I was actually the one that
had to go on count and pick up all of
the dead goats and other dumped animals not listed in
this article.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
It made me sick.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Oh wait, so what other animals were there, So this
guy's got a falls that.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I will say, No, she was.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
She was the one who found them in the forest
or was told to go get them and retrieve them.
All I will say is that they were killed in
a very unethical and horrific way.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Why did I read some that said there was no
or maybe it was limited? Wait, so what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It's a few lines on Facebook. That's all what they were.
They were killed, killed in a very unethical and horrific way.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Does that mean the person I hope justice is served
nose or they just think.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well, it's not like it's not like they got some
goat virus and you know, and died that way.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I think it's hen Tai No, that's what I have
on my hands.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That's Oh what.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Is hen Tai?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Isn't that Chinese porn? Yeah? I like that. Out of
everything mentioned, I'm most familiar with that.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
You I know, it's the Friday before pool season, but
it wasn't goat chlamydia?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Diane?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
What what are people do? People respond to her comment
with a guess and did she thumb?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And then it goes goes down a road where it's oh,
chupucob uh and you know.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You asked for you asked for conspiracy theories?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Hey, can you post on there if anybody knows what
happened to mcpheely, not his name me in there?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
What you said? McNeely? Whatever?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yellie in the morning?
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Does it mean yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Hi? Who's this?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Hi? It's Christine, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
I'm listening you guys every day.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I love you guys.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
I just have to throw in my two cents.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
I was at tech for decades in California.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
He had I also topped that and technology.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Did you put the phone back in your pocket?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I can't hear you now? You were so good at
the beginning and then.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
You were like, oh my pants, my my phone fell
in my sweatpants, and now nobody can hear me?
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Now? So much better? Thank you? Okay, the worst put
in the world. Oh, here we go.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
So I was a vet tech out in California.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Okay, hold on one second, I don't I love you?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Hold on one second, Chris.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I think she's playing it jokeing for going back to her.
And then I told him no.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Because she's got information. She's got information.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
We know she was a vet tech.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Okay, she's there. Hey, are you there?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
I'm still here. Yeah, I don't know what my phone's doing.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Stop moving, Stop moving out of my car will be better. Okay,
Well now I'm just getting out of the car just
to try to see if the connection.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Okay. So you were tech in California.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
And we taught veterinary technology and the students would go
out to different places like horse farms and dairy farms
and whatnot. We had a good dairy farm we would
go to all the time. It was beautiful, great, we'd
see birds happening. Sometimes there was every now and then
the schedule didn't work out. We'd go to a less
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than super one. There would be piles of dead calves
on the way in.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Or stop it, stop it.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yeah, it was horrible.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Flies everywhere. They were very well removed from where the
other cattle were and whatnot, but piles and piles them.
If you think about it, for dairy they need to
keep them pregnant to keep them out going, right, So basically,
if they get really ill, it was potentially not the
best investment for them to be putting in the care
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for all of these.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, right, I'm not making money on that. You know what.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's funny because when you first started to talk, before
you put your phone in your pants, I was going
to ask, would we actually be shocked to find out
this happens more than we think it does.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Right, So I was curious, you know, if this is
related to potentially like goat milk farming or something like that,
and it's.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Just you know, maybe a less ferculous uh.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Interesting. Interesting, that's the topic of them.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
But I don't know, again, conspiracy theory, but I'll take
it from experience today.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Hey, I appreciate the I appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Thank you, ma'am. Have a good weekend. You got to
talk to you later, all right, back in the car.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I don't think for her that'd be a conspiracy theory.
She's basing it on her firsthand experience.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well that happens all the time seeing stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
When she says it that way, like, so the people
that own them, they're not animals, Well no they're not.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I mean for some they are.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I'm talking about people that just get rid of them
and dispose of them. It's not they're not animals. They are,
just that's just the means to a.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Dollar that can make you an animal.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
No, No, But what I'm what I'm saying is they
don't look at the cows and go, oh oh, this
cow is sick. We've got to do whatever it takes
to get this cow healthy. They look at it and go,
I'm not going to make any money off this cow.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Screw it.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I'll worry about the ones that are alive, so that
they're not They're not worried about the well being of
an animal.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
They're worried about the dollar value of the animal.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Right, But that's not mutually exclusive with being terrible some
of them.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
They are.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
If you're stacking up animals because you don't want to
get them healthy, you're a.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Bad Yet that's bad. Yes, we agree on that.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, absolutely happens more than you think. I nailed that.
I didn't say it out loud until after she confirmed
it for me, but I was there.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm going to count it under the murder mystery.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Thank you, Lyne two. Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Hey, Hey, you gots do it all right?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Very good? How are you, sir?
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Hey you guys watch severance.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I don't, No, I don't, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Oh. My theory is are filming season three up around there.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
The that to be good, like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Like I want that to be good.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
We really should watch that show.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
The I don't have time to get into it. I mean,
you're so how many seasons into it?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I still don't know who the Ravens are playing.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I'm waiting, all right, very good, very good?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Someone else though, Okay, well, clearly it has to do
with dead goats.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It may not.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I have no idea what severance is about. Isn't severance?
Doesn't it take place in an office?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
What's about a corporation, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah? So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
This is out in a state park. I know nothing
about severans. I downloaded one thing to watch on the
plane today.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm gonna watch that Osama bin Laden thing? Oh yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna watch that.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Your seat mate will be psyched.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Oh, Christen's saying it's great. Oh I'm getting Oh you
know who else likes it? Big Sean Stud.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
All right, I'm in Netflix.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yes? Is it just the three episodes? Yeah yeah, Big
Sean Stud likes it. Big Sean Studd could say, Big Sean.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Studd is in is here? He came in and just
sitting in another room. But if big Sean stud said
let's go eat a wall, I would be like.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
All right, here we go, I'm gonna go eat a wall,
Eat a wall. How excited were you when he walked in?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Still it's in sustained?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Where am I going? Line one?
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Hi? Elliott the morning, Hey Elliott, it's the truck driver.
Has it gone?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Hey? What's going on?
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Hey? I've got a pretty decent theory. So with trucking,
with the reefer drivers, if a product is bad, or
if you get to a shipper or a receiver, I mean,
and they deny the product you have to that product,
whether it's tomatoes, eats, fruits, whatever. So what I'm thinking
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is someone picked up like a bull hauler, you know,
because they transport live animals and they were supposed to
maybe they you pick up live animals, you're stilled to
get them from a to b as quickly and safely
as possible. You can't really delay it. Maybe somebody that
was hauling them probably didn't get there in time, you know,
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to the receivers, and they denied them, and they had
probably just already died by then, so they had to
dump them somewhere.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Okay, no, I mean sadly, like as a human being.
You hear, then you go, well, I would never do that.
Who could ever do that? But we don't live in
that world. We don't live in that world.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
But if those if that product, like let's say those fruits,
get somewhere and they get denied, it's the trucker's responsibility
to go dump them somewhere.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I don't like it.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
I don't know what it's like for bull haulers, but
that could possibly or it could be an insurance claim
to I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
The uh showed me the money.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
There was a tag on you said there was a
tag on one of the coats.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yep, just that one. That's that one.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Because I told Tyler to make sure you remove all
the tags and one oversight and then we didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
All right, let me grab line five. Hi Yellie at
the morning? Yeah, Hi, who's that?
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Uh Hi?
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Shout out of Richmond?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yes, sure, what can I do for you? Treving?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Uh so not necessarily late.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
But back in high school, we had a guy steal
three monkeys and a parrot from the local zoo. It
was a dreyor Park and Zoo down in South Florida,
like made the news and everything, great scandal. The best
part was he one of the guys who went with
him was real scared and was getting interrogated by the
police and they they leaked the audio tape to the
you know, confession, and he was freaking out saying they
(19:49):
were gonna get him and he couldn't tell on his
friends and the detective the whole time was real just joke, joke, cracking,
telling them like, oh yeah, the big bad monkey crews
out to get.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
To and uh.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
In the process they had him, they had him in
a couple of re containers and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Okay, right, all right, yeah, alright, it was just yeah,
I don't completely we have company, big Sean studs here.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
All right, very good, very good, Thank you sir.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Of course, that was the first call in three or
four where the phone didn't cut out.