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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, can I ask why would somebody send this to me?
But I didn't print out who it was from.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Was I talking about something?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
They sent me? An article the smart way to ask
dumb questions?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I thought there were no dumb questions.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Well, there are no dumb questions. What did they always say?
The dumb question is the one that's not asked exactly?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Is it because of the promo that ran? Well they
maybe heard you say it live, but what was the
recorded promo that ran for.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
A day and a weekend?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
What was the promo?
Speaker 5 (00:37):
I can pull up the audio for you.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I don't need to play the flashback sound effect, right
because this is in the context here.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, no, this should be fine. I'm not stupid and dumb.
If I don't know something, I just don't know something.
I'm just not knowledgeable. Maybe that's why.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yeah, did they hear that one more time?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'm not stupid and dumb. If I don't know something,
I just don't know something. I'm just not knowledgeable. But
you know what I mean, there's a lot of truth
in that.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Perhaps that was their impetus.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Could be, but I don't feel like I.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Huh no, But you should ask questions.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
If you don't know, you gotta ask.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Did you not like the advice in the piece?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
No, I actually didn't. I didn't like the advice.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It says smart ways to ask dumb questions.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
The smart way to ask dumb questions.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And the whole, the whole thing is that, like they
talk about like in a work setting, is that they
give you this set up like, well, we've all been
going through the power point and uh, you don't know
something on slide seven, and so you asked for it
to be explained in the whole room, kind of like
Snickers looks at you, well, so what.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Yeah, but you can understand people would be intimidated in
a situation like that and would just say I'm just
not gonna ask.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'll pretend like I know and look into it later.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
But then what happens if you get charged with something
and you're like, I don't know, I didn't even understand that.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
You need help.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Would you rather ask?
Speaker 7 (02:20):
So?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
But they say, but what did they always say, like, well,
there's no dumb questions, right, and then you ask one
and everybody's like you're dumb except that one.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So is this more about humiliation in a group setting
rather than just one on one both both.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, all right, And so they give you all these
these steps for how to avoid asking a dumb question.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Well, we've all been there.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
So yes, of course we have. Maybe I just don't care.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
No, you've just convinced yourself there's no dumb questions.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
No, I mean yeah, there are, trust me, there are
dumb questions. No, No, you know you know the dumb question.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It's like if I were to say, listen, we always
put the keys on the counter, and then somebody.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Would be like, where do we put the keys?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, well that's dumb. I already told you where to
put the keys. Or maybe we're just and here's what,
here's one.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Of the what Oh my god, how many steps are there?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
There's only five? Ask early but not too early?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Meaning?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So, like, let's say, for example, I'm talking about the keys,
right and all the keys stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Don't just put your hand up and go where do
we put the keys?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I may answer that along the way, so you don't
just have to the second the question enters your mind.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You don't just have to shoot your hand up.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Sometimes we have to listen and they'll answer the question
for you.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
That is sound advice, No, it is. It is the
key examples. Throw me off because that just sounds so stupid.
But where somebody could be anything covered eventually, that happens,
especially in school. That happens, well, it happens at work,
in meetings. Yes, so that happens everywhere. And you learn
that one from an early age because we've all been
there where they'll say, oh, we're getting to that, yeah, right,
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thing like that.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well, they humiliate you. They humiliate you.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Why couldn't they just say, oh, you know what, great question,
we're going to get that answer.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, we'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But instead they humiliate you we're getting there, which, by
the way, I used to do to my kids all
the time. How about you let me finish and then
if you have a question, which they do, say, use
the after action window. Let them get through whatever it is,
(04:42):
and then ask don't don't keep don't keep throwing hurdles
up along the way, because then you become that person.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Oh Jesus, another question.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Now, that happens all the time, and I didn't realize
we were tackling too many questions also because that is
one thing, but in not every setting in which there
are too many questions?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Are they all dumb?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
None of them may be dumb, but you get no
point where you just can't take another question.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, and by the way that they think you're dumb,
Oh my god, how many even.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
If they're not from the same person.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Uh no, No, if you're trying to get out of
a meeting and people keep asking a question.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Nobody wants to get into a meeting. Everybody wants to
get out. Oh, you can just be frustrated that anybody's
asking a question.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
And there's definitely times.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
But if it's always the same person and you have those,
you have those, and they're not necessarily dumb people, but boy,
they sure acted or they're just trying to get look
at me. Look how engaged I am. Look how engaged
I am? Oh god, shut up, Mary.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
But you may get that more with a guest speaker.
What do you mean if you see somebody every day
or every other day here, the showing off maybe isn't
as explicit, right, But when they have people visiting, then
you certainly Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Hey, everybody, Bernie's coming from corporate. Oh I have a question.
I have a question from mister Weiss.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
So you're supposed to wait until the entire thing's done.
Use the after action window.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
No one's heard of that, just Land and Layman's terms.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So when the action's going on, wait until after how's that?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
This is like yesterday or the day before. By the way, Kristen,
very nice pewter collection. But this is like when you
were asking the guy if he had any pewter at home? Right,
you explained it almost exactly the same way.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Do you remember the clip?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
No, I say a lot of words, do you have
any pewter in your house?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I'm not sure that would be Is there an example
of that, Yeah, it's pewter.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Should you be asking the question privately after the action window?
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
No, sometimes sometimes you should.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Sometimes, like while everything's going on that they say that
you should. Also they say make it about work, not
about you.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So that can be phrasing. Yes, because you are the
one asking the dumb question.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Curiosity should sharpen the team, not sound like a personal confession.
There's a big difference between Hey, I don't get slide
seven and can we talk about how slide seven connects
with the project goal?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
If I sat in a meeting and anybody said, can
we talk about how slide seven connects to the project goal,
I'd be like.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Kiss asked, you know what the heckle? That doesn't that
sound kiss?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Ass?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, how does that?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
How does that work into the Because now that I've
read that, I'd be like, someone doesn't get slide seven.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Fine, you phrased it in a way without confessing.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
If you don't like the alternative, how would you say
it without the confession?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So here's how.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Your hands moving around so much?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Because I'm being demonstrative.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, So I'd be like, listen, I get what they're
saying at slide seven. I just don't get how it
ties into what we're trying to accomplish.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
You do what you do on the air and blame
it on Diane.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Hey, I totally get slide seven, but Diane is telling
me she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I'd say that.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Remember the last when we went through a period a
few years ago, and I don't remember what the occasions were,
but they would have those.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Everybody would have to be in.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
It was probably pre COVID, those those big gigantic meetings,
and we'd be on conference room and you would grown
at everybody who asked a question. Oh exactly, like Yeah,
like audible size.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Because a lot of that is just for Here goes
chilli again. Oh is there a spotlight and walk the
mic over?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I have a question, like, all of a sudden, you
get a brownie point for being engaged.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
No, you don't. You get a brownie point for looking stupid.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
I forgot about this and they were pretty consistent.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, so listen. Slide seven makes a ton of sense
to me. I get it, Diane.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And you're still gonna throw me under.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
The However, I'm where exactly does that fit into the
greater project?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
You had that goal all right? Talking about connection.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Oh, model curiosity. I didn't remember that one.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Oh, this is another.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
This is if you're running a meeting. This is if
you're running a meeting. The best way to spark smart
curiosity is to show your own leaders who frame questions strategically,
demon demonstrate how to ask questions in ways that move
work forward, and don't suck the air out of the room.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Try this.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Instead of ending a meeting with the standard any questions
that's every meeting, which usually results in blank stares because
everybody's already tuned out, try this. This was a great
discussion what perspectives might we still be missing.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
That would not have been the example that came up with.
So explain that to me. What are you then looking
for as somebody.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Just somebody who goes, hey, you know what, maybe what
about this? Or what about that? Or should we have
done this? Or maybe this works? Instead of going does
anybody have any questions? Well?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Nobody, because if.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You have a question, you're asking a question because people
think you're stupid. But if I'm offering a different perspective
or a different angle, well, now I'm just I'm adding
something because I.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Thought it was gonna be more down the avenue of
admitting your own weakness or own lack of understanding.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I'm running the meeting.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah no, the smartest one here. No, But you're saying,
just don't ask.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
They didn't ask mouth for either to come up and
lead this session. I'm doing it.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Don't put forth a generic.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, ask All right, he's got questions, and everybody's like,
why couldn't we have ended ten minutes?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Though?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh yeah, no, nobody wants to be in there.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Hold on, Elliott's got another ten to throw, all.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Right, So before we wrap up, does anybody have and
then you got to sit there in this long silence,
waiting to see if Mary's gonna raise her hand the
I don't know the So it's like, all right, does
anybody have any questions?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yep, mm hmm, okay, does it seem so?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And also, you screw yourself because then if you're waiting
for the after action, if you go up and go, hey,
you know what I didn't, they'd be like, well, I said,
does anybody have any questions?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Why didn't you ask?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
And because what in the Lowey's neglect back to well,
if you have a question, chances are somebody else has
the same question.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's like doctor Judy used to say.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Nope, only Diane has this question.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
But you're right, no, doctor Judy is definitely a good
source on this.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But if I was in that meeting and somebody was like,
does anybody have any questions?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yes, Mary, oh god, oh, turn on the spotlight, settle in.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
You know who does ask questions? And I don't feel
like it's I ask a lot of questions. It's from
a look at me angle, curiosity or because of a
lack of understanding.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I feel like Kristen always says I have a question, She's.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Not yea no, But a lot of it. You can
turn the mic on. That's a good question. But she
wasn't a lot of it is she doesn't? Yes, I
don't want.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
No, I was gonna saying, because you don't.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Know, I raise my hand. You call on me when
you're done explaining after action?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Right, Yeah, No, you want to ask, just not too early.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yes, because you have even told me. I see your
hand is up.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I'll get to you know. But wait, do you ask
a lot of questions?
Speaker 7 (13:49):
I love to ask questions.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Do you really nerve?
Speaker 7 (13:53):
That's something I regret In high school. I never asked
questions why. I didn't want to be made fun of
if I didn't understand something.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
But who's going to make fun of you? Where are
you looking at me? Are you making fun of anybody?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Throwing pens and science?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
If it is like where's the door?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't think that was asked? Geometry the no.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But if you don't know, you're gonna fail.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
I didn't do so well.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, but you should ask questions. You should ask questions.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
I do now, and as I got older, I'm like,
screw it.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
No, if you don't know, you should ask.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I would say that's one of her personality traits, and
I love it. But she is a very inquisitive person.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Everybody should be inquisitive. Not everyone is, no, because some
people would just rather.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
You got it? That's me.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I know it was visual, but I could sense a
shell around you.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
No, turtle up, turtle power, and that's why Kristin and I.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
But Diane, No, No, I would say. I would say
if if, if we had to clump the room, Diane
and Tyler would be together, and Kristin and I would
be together.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
But that wouldn't be good for teaming up each other.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
No, we would be better off being like Diane and
I and you and Kristin.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yes, that way, there's a turtle balance.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, a turtle and.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
A spine and hair.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Right. How many a fable? No, that's an ant in
a grasshopper? Can I not be with Diane?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I have a promo with that in it. How about
one more? Everything works better than three?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
It's almost like Asop's fable the grasshoppers spent all summer.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Singing and playing in the sun. The ants spent all
summer storing up food for the winner.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Exactly, and then in the end, does the ant help
the grasshopper outer?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Now anyway, it's not part of the fable, and I'm
the dumb one has to ask a question.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Here's my favorite part. This all started another penthra, where's
your paper? This all started with why would somebody send me?
An article entitled The Smart Way to Ask Dumb Questions.